Another crazy thing defensively, is that he doesn't foul. Isn't he averaging more blocks than fouls? He's getting all these crazy stops without fouling
Yeah it's an excuse people make for JJJ ("he's getting all those fouls because he contests so many shots") but I never really bought it. The best defenders can stay on the court.
@@derekstark8447it was a different NBA. Wilt had to play against a Celtics team that won more titles than any other franchise in history. There were no 3’s back then either, so that means more big men clogging up the paint. If Blocks and steals were recorded at that time period, Wilt would likely average a quadruple double, with 50 ppg and 30 rpg.
Someone like Wemby should never have to average 39 mins a game in their career. That’s literally stuff people really did in the 60s and 70s when the game wasn’t as physically exhausting from pace
@@thecaptain9212He shouldn't, but the fact that stars no longer average those kinds of minutes in the regular season is part of the reason certain teams (like the Nuggets and Heat) are considered "playoff risers" and don't do as well as you'd think in the regular season most years.
It's crazy that with how hyped Wemby was coming into the league that he's actually exceeding expectations. Kind of reminds you of how Lebron actually lived up to the chosen one moniker.
He isn't exceeding any expectations lmfao you bums were saying he would be a top 10 player of all time his first year and said he would avg 35pts😂 Like lets not make false narratives bc I remember down to the fkn T how much yall glazed this boy And im not even shitting on him either, im just pointing out the blatant bullsht coming from your fingertips rn
So somehow avr 20 is exceeding expectations 😂 rookie Shaq got 23 well shooting better and not being 7'4 Yes he can be great but to say exceeding is crazy
@@45atannerWemby being 7’4 makes every stat of his but blocks more impressive. He doesn’t conform to the role of a guy who’s almost 7 1/2 feet tall he’s able to do everything out there
I've just realized that Chet Holgrame reminds me Alonzo. Both have crazy rookie season, but there was/are just crazy better rookies during their first season
Another thing is his maturity and passion. He's serious. He didn't care that he got a 5x5 game, he's pissed off when he loses. He has a competitive fire and a want to be great
So true, rooting for him. Hope that he can stay healthy. He’s got the tools to be the best player. So far so good. Many have been speculated this way and have been hurt too much already by this point. He seems more fluid than any super tall player before him.
Nah people are just ignorant. W the way people obsess with numbers and rings. They would love David Robinson a lot more if they just looked at his numbers
@@CrimsonUniverse22He needed another star player. If Duncan played with the Spurs in Robinson's prime, they would have won several championships. Same thing with Wemby. He needs another star player or else the Spurs will keep tanking.
Wemby is so good so fast and gets better every game feel bead for Chet because in most years he would be the guy we're talking about the most because he's got all star upside as a rookie, but this class is just stacked
I've been saying, he's not going to change the NBA like Curry, or Dirk, or LeBron, or MJ. He can't because what makes him so special and unique is his physical stature combined with his skills. We're not likely to see that combination ever again. Welcome to the Wemby era.
What makes this video really really lack credibility is how you compare his numbers to all time greats, but Leave out Wilt Chamberlain! But that’s completely understandable, bc Wimby’s numbers are laughable in comparison.
Im so happy my team got this guy. I just hope we can build around him well like denver did with jokic and that injuries wont ruin his career. That would be so disappointing. If all goes well i think wemby can for sure end up being a top 10 to 15 talent in nba history
It would have been great to also compare minutes per game vs general stats by player as we can notice duncan was 39.1 minutes/game, Bron 39.5 min,Mourning 33.9 min etc and Wemby 28.8 min!it is even more impressive with that stat!!
Wilt and Oscar Robinson had some of the most insane rookie season tho. 30.5 points, 10.1 rebounds, and 9.7 assists - oscar 37.6 points, 27.0 rebounds and 2.3 assists -wilt
@@thecaptain9212 You can't simply ignore history and act like it does not matter or the players that laid the foundation for the NBA are inconsequential. No one is "done with the 90s" other than those that are ignorant and don't care about history. This greatly disrespects some of the greats from the 90s and prior to the 90s by making that ludicrous statement. Don't be a mindless lemming and think for yourself and understand the history of the game.
Im so glad to be witnessing this greatness at 29💯i was young when Lebron came in but now as a adult and understanding the game im just glad to see it and be able to tell my kids if there NBA fans that i seen this
Can’t wait to see the final peak version of Wemby. Already arguably a top 20 player in the league currently with serious top 5 of all time maybe even 🐐potential 👀
The scariest thing about this is that San Antonio has Atlanta by the balls. They have so much capital that they really can do everything. Wanna trade for a super star? Cool, they got enough picks to trade and enough cap space to pay them. Wanna move up the draft for another generational prospect? Cool, they can trade some of their current players and picks to deliver a good package to get another lottery pick. Wanna take it slow and draft athletic prospects to develop their game and let them build chemistry with Wemby? Cool, they got potential 1st round picks from Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Boston and their own. I see success in all those three paths. It's gonna take a Herculean effort and bad luck to mess this up, and their front office isn't dumb
As a spurs fan who’s seen almost all of Wemby’s minutes this season, I agree with everything and am not afraid to say he’ll end up as the goat if health permits
And let's not sleep on the fact that he's doing this with the entire NBA landscape watching his every move, and having to relocate his entire life overseas. Those are huge external factors that would distract a less-focused talent.
I’ve been a happy spurs fan for a while . Then the losing seasons came and now thanks to wemby I feel like we’re getting back to spurs culture . Hopefully this offseason we make a lot of smart moves and not just G league and undrafted nobodies .
This rookie is already number one in league. No one even comes close. He scores 20-30 points every game. Not Michael Jordan, Kobe, Steph or Lebron. He will break records after records set by great ones. Amazing player with his height. 7 footers doesn’t normally doesn’t move like a guard.
Why did you not include Wilt? If he is so great then surely he will break some of wilts records right? Also you talk about t footers do move like him. Wilt was 7'2 ran a 40 in 4.5 thats way faster than Wemby. I do agree it still is rare to see this height and agility but we have seen it before.
Something that also wasn’t mentioned at the beginning is that his team mates are missing him being open or having a mismatch ab 10 times a night. Not sure if they jealous of the kid or if the upper management is trying to temper his rookie success so they don’t miss out on getting high draft picks the next couple years but w a ts % of 60 that works out to between 12- 18 extra points he could be dropping each game. Bringing his average up to 33 pts a night at minimum 😮
Notwithstanding the fact that Wemby is a fantastic player, isn't it a bit disingenuous to compare the numbers to other eras without mentioning the league wide stat inflation that has been the signature of 2024? There are 46 players averaging 20 or more this year while only 24 guys managed that in Robinson's rookie year.
Yeah but wemby also has less blocking opportunities than players from the 90s would for example And truthfully with the spurs being as bad as they are I doubt his stats would change much in reality
@@nimrodrubin9805 I see your point, but I'm not sure that I agree with it as he isn't a traditional "back to the basket" big. He's really just the longest wing we have ever seen.
For me, the blocks and steals are crazy impressive. The points, though, 21 is like putting up 15 in certain eras. Still impressive but hard for me to see 21 in 2024 as an impressive point average.
Memories are short. In 1959-60, Wilt Chamberlain's stat line was 37.6ppg, 27.0rpg, 2.3 apg playing 46.4 minutes per game. Blocks were not officially kept, but contemporaneous reports state that Wilt blocked 5-10 shots per game. Wembanyama is an incredible young player, but to claim he's having the "greatest rookie season ever" is just not true.
True but we by played half those minutes and has 20 11 3.4 and 1.3 with a solid 3 point capability that wilt didn’t have, im saying wemby putting up wilt numbers with that time in that era fs
But Wemby is most certainly NOT putting up Wilt-like numbers, and you can't be certain that he would. It is just as possible that, if he were to play 48 minutes a game like Wilt did, he would tire and his production would fall off.@@raskult
@@Mustapha1963man, wilt is a historic great player, but if Wemby was in the 60’s he’s averaging wilt numbers on less minutes. Best modern season of all time, cos u can’t compare eras that far apart
@@water8635 I'm not so sure. I think there is no question that the 60s were a MUCH more physical era. When it came to defending Wilt, players all but committed aggravated assault against him- and Wilt still dropped 30 or more on them. The current era is- sorry, not sorry- soft, at least in comparison to back then. Since Wembanyama isn't often subjected to physical defense- or much defense at all- it's hard to say how he would handle Wayne Embry leaning on him for 40 minutes. And the refs letting Embry do it.
@@Mustapha1963 this is another reason why I think comparisons from different eras that far apart are a bit silly. First of all, even if he can’t completely dominate the paint 24/7, he’s gonna do well in that aspect still, and then with his shooting he can pull up over everybody all game. Fouls were still called back then, u we’re just allowed a bit more body, he’d be getting his arms hacked mid shot constantly
I keep forgetting that he's doing all of this under a minutes restriction. Not saying he'd be at prime Shaq level scoring with an extra 9 or 10 mins, but that avg would certainly be a few points closer. And that's nuts.
In context, it’s easier for Wemby to do it than it was for the older players. 20 pts in this era is like scoring 13/14 points in the 90’s. Same will all the other stats. Still an elite rookie season though.
Yea some of these stats where very specific & didn’t tell the whole story , like Hakeem Shaq & Drob where all doing those things while shooting over 53% from the field while Wemby is at 47% rn (mind you he’s 7’4)
BPM (which is an era and pace adjusted estimate of on court impact) thinks Wemby at center is about +6.5 this season, which would be one of the best seasons for a 20 year old in history and comparable to, for example, DRob's rookie season at 24 and only a little behind Jordan's rookie season at 21. Taking his time at PF into account, his +4.4 is on par with Magic Johnson's 20 year old rookie season or Duncan's 21 year old rookie season (and well ahead of other guys you might be thinking of, like Shaq and Hakeem). So yes, it's not technically right to compare the exact numbers, but it turns out in this case it's not really misleading (mostly because he's playing so few minutes compared to any of those classic rookie seasons).
Hopefully this brings back respect for the big man. This is why centers are so important. They help regulate pointless empty scoring. These young guys aren't used to aggressive big guys anymore.
Why does LOW only uploads a video like every 3-4 Months. This is my favorite RUclips channel, dude always delivers. I wish he dropped more often, we need that.
Wemby's a special player, unlike almost anyone we have seen. That said, the NBA did not start recording blocked shots until the 1973-74 season. Thus a 23-year-old rookie Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't be eligible for the comparison at 2:15 simply because the stat didn't exist. As a rookie, though, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points and 27.0 rebounds. Basketball historians and commentators "guess" he probably averged at least 5 blocks per game back then as well.
to be fair all those greats had great coaches, it's reasonable to think pop won't be there in his prime so maybe one of the biggest question marks in his career might be is if he's going to get lucky enough to also have an all-time great coach to cultivate a team to help him reach his highest potential
37.6 points, 27 rebounds, 2.3 assists and unknown steals and blocks in his rookie season, but considering he did have a record 8.8 blocks per game across over 100 game span later in his career, it's safe to assume he had a few blocks and steals at the least. His debut nba game he scored 43 points and 28 rebounds against the new york knicks who had a 6'5 pg, 6'0 sg, a 6'3 sf, 6'7 pf, and 6'11 220 lb center. This player was Wilt Chamberlain.
@@Mik-xq2co exactly, and people would rather come up with their own narrative of the 60s and 70s rather than believe that they missed out on seeing the greatest player of all time. "plumbers and firefighters" , "Where's the footage?" , "he was taller than everybody else". All false narratives driven by disbelief and a general lack of knowledge of the decades past. Us few who know and believe are privileged to a true legend.
@@tylerhall9412wilt was the greatest player of that era by a mile, and the fact that the competition wasn’t as good doesn’t take away from what he did back then. But Wemby is averaging wilt numbers in the 60’s on less minutes. And that’s facts.
@@water8635 no it isn't, wemby isn't even close to wilt numbers. and I'd say a lot of the competition was better. Bill Russel and the 60s Celtics would beat any team from today, and any team from the 60s could beat today's Detroit pistons lil
@@tylerhall9412 ur smokin dookie my brother, and I meant that Wemby would average wilt numbers if he played back then. Wilt was clearly a mile better than the entire league, but he’s not averaging those numbers in 2024, not to say he wouldn’t be the best player in the league, cos he prolly would be. But those numbers were a product of the era, and wilt. Not just wilt.
Oh my glorious, long, future goat Wemby. When I first layed my eyes upon that gorgeous silky smooth jump shot I knew you were dominating the league. Towering over others with that good D. Victor Wetbananas, so young with so much talent and time I wish you well along your legendary journey overthrowing LeCutiePatooti.
Wilt's Rookie Season: 37.6 Ponts, 27 Rebounds, 2.3 Assists, 7+ Block Shots/ I guess he did not exist. He was a dream. Wemby is great and has that potential or I should say close to it.
Impressively produced and presented video. I usually do not think to myself when watching a video like this, that whoever is making this video they really got their shjit together. Congrats.
I'll tell you this, he's getting more playing time than most rookies. With that said, he's on a short list of players who've been as impactful for their team as Wemby is to the spurs. With Lebron and Curry retiring in the near future, it's great to see so many future HOF players playing at a high level. The NBA had so many superstars, and up until Wemby, I thought that the league was kind of starting to fizzle out. Slowing loosing those dynamic superstars and not refilling them very fast. With Lebron and Curry at the end of their careers, we're leaving the league in the hands of players like Joker and Luka. While they're dominant, they don't necessarily have the same GOAT energy that players like Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Iverson, KD, Curry had/have. Players like Melo and Tmac would step on the floor, and you just knew that you were in big f*cking trouble. Shaq was literally unstoppable; you just held on for dear life or got the hell out of the way. And the diesel just owned the spotlight. He was charismatic and just a damn good entertainer. I don't know, Wemby is just one of those players that, if he can remain healthy, can be one of those Goat type players. He has that killer instinct at such a young age.
Wemby is so fucking sick man, Chet is sick too, they're both like 20+ PER. What a rookie class, imagine if these guys stay healthy, both have top 10 potential, and obvs Wemby legitimately could be the best player in the league.
He better win DPOY. He’s basically put it out of reach already statistically even if he doesn’t play another minute. The NBA and journalists better not screw him over just because he’s a rookie and hasn’t “pAiD hIs DuEs.”
Better rookie season than Wilt's???? I know we try to act like his numbers don't count, but what about Elvin Hayes (ROY and regular season MVP, while averaging 28 and 17)?!!
It seems that most NBA fans(including myself) devalue the stats in his rookie campaign due to the fact that the NBA only had 8 teams. Plus, the only other 7 FOOTER in the league when WILT joined was Swede Halbrook.💯 The level of competition is much greater now than then.
You forgot Wilt Chamberlain's rookie year, as most seem to like to do. Kareem did pretty well, also, if I remember correctly. Check their stats. This young man does look good, though. Not trying to detract from him, just adding some forgotten references.
I project that Wemby will enter the top 25 discussion within the next five years, then the top 10 discussion three years after that. But his ranking is dependent on whether or not the spurs take full advantage of Wemby while he’s still young. Tall players tend to decline once they enter their thirties, so they have about 10 years to make Vic the GOAT. (And I’m not worried about any major injuries since he’s obviously very conscious about the risk and takes mobility very seriously.)
He's up there for sure, especially for his age but you don't even really need to give that caveat. Only guys with a strong (age adjusted) argument since the merger for a comparable (not better) rookie season are LeBron and MJ, I think. At least on a rate basis. When you account for minutes played there are a few guys better since a lot of rookies played close to 40 a night, but mostly just guys from that HOFer list in the video.
Huge work on the editing ! And great video too. The way you approach his stat lines and how you compare him to others are pertinently put 👍 Gained a sub ❤
The Greatest Rookie of All Time was obviously Wilt Chamberlain! "As a rookie with the Warriors, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points, 27 rebounds, and 2.3 assists in 72 games. In addition to the honor for first year players, he was also awarded All-Star Game MVP and NBA MVP, making him the only player to win all three in the same season." "The NBA did not record blocked shots until the 1973-74 season." Bill "Russell estimated that he and Wilt averaged about 8-10 blocks per game in their careers." (Googled quotes)
I just love it when players live up to unreasonable expectations. The last to do it was LeBron. Before that Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Wilt... Those may be the top 5 to live up to expectations. Vic has a way to go but so far so great!
Wilt Chamberlain had a rookie season that statistically was better, but Wemby is only 20. If he stays healthy and gains strength his potential to become one of the all time great players is easy to envision.
Another crazy thing defensively, is that he doesn't foul. Isn't he averaging more blocks than fouls? He's getting all these crazy stops without fouling
He got hella IQ for a young dude
Yeah it's an excuse people make for JJJ ("he's getting all those fouls because he contests so many shots") but I never really bought it. The best defenders can stay on the court.
Wilt never fouled out and Wilt was basically a mutant never seen before talent like Wemby.
@@derekstark8447that was a different nba
@@derekstark8447it was a different NBA. Wilt had to play against a Celtics team that won more titles than any other franchise in history. There were no 3’s back then either, so that means more big men clogging up the paint.
If Blocks and steals were recorded at that time period, Wilt would likely average a quadruple double, with 50 ppg and 30 rpg.
I’ve never been more confident that a rookie will be a top 5 player
Wemby already top 6 all time
@@caiocomarella4691the glazing is crazy
Just can’t get injured at that height because if so from history he’ll be retired by 33
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so youre telling me if wemby averaged 39 mins, he would be on pace to average 27.8 pts, 13.9 reb, 4.6 ast, 1.7 stl, 4.4 blk??? holy shit dude
If you really want your mind blown, look at his numbers since Jan 1. He's pretty much been a top 5 player in the league by BPM in that timespan.
@@JwebGuruits insanely impressive how much hes improved already
Someone like Wemby should never have to average 39 mins a game in their career. That’s literally stuff people really did in the 60s and 70s when the game wasn’t as physically exhausting from pace
@@thecaptain9212He shouldn't, but the fact that stars no longer average those kinds of minutes in the regular season is part of the reason certain teams (like the Nuggets and Heat) are considered "playoff risers" and don't do as well as you'd think in the regular season most years.
@@thecaptain921260s pace was insanely high wym?
It's crazy that with how hyped Wemby was coming into the league that he's actually exceeding expectations. Kind of reminds you of how Lebron actually lived up to the chosen one moniker.
He isn't exceeding any expectations lmfao you bums were saying he would be a top 10 player of all time his first year and said he would avg 35pts😂
Like lets not make false narratives bc I remember down to the fkn T how much yall glazed this boy
And im not even shitting on him either, im just pointing out the blatant bullsht coming from your fingertips rn
So somehow avr 20 is exceeding expectations 😂 rookie Shaq got 23 well shooting better and not being 7'4
Yes he can be great but to say exceeding is crazy
@@45atanner Shaq wasn't on a minutes restriction.
@@45atannerBro, dude is posting prime shaq like stats at 20, what else u want?
@@45atannerWemby being 7’4 makes every stat of his but blocks more impressive. He doesn’t conform to the role of a guy who’s almost 7 1/2 feet tall he’s able to do everything out there
I've just realized that Chet Holgrame reminds me Alonzo.
Both have crazy rookie season, but there was/are just crazy better rookies during their first season
Who was the better rookie?
@@brandonw6139 Ben Simmons had a really good season, the rest I think are some of the all time greats
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Another thing is his maturity and passion. He's serious. He didn't care that he got a 5x5 game, he's pissed off when he loses. He has a competitive fire and a want to be great
So true, rooting for him. Hope that he can stay healthy. He’s got the tools to be the best player. So far so good. Many have been speculated this way and have been hurt too much already by this point. He seems more fluid than any super tall player before him.
Never in my life have I seen a 7'4 dude bring the ball up the court then crossover the defender and nail a logo 3.
You never heard of Rick Smits? Lol jk jk
David Robinson underrated!!!
He seriously is omg
Nah people are just ignorant. W the way people obsess with numbers and rings. They would love David Robinson a lot more if they just looked at his numbers
@@lqnumber1David didn’t really deliver come playoffs. That ha hurt his legacy.
@@CrimsonUniverse22He needed another star player. If Duncan played with the Spurs in Robinson's prime, they would have won several championships. Same thing with Wemby. He needs another star player or else the Spurs will keep tanking.
@@CrimsonUniverse22 I feel like nobody gives Shaq shit for needing Kobe and Wade to win
Wemby is so good so fast and gets better every game feel bead for Chet because in most years he would be the guy we're talking about the most because he's got all star upside as a rookie, but this class is just stacked
I've been saying, he's not going to change the NBA like Curry, or Dirk, or LeBron, or MJ. He can't because what makes him so special and unique is his physical stature combined with his skills. We're not likely to see that combination ever again. Welcome to the Wemby era.
Wemby also averaging 28 minutes a game doing all this. 😂
And a higher usage rate than Jokic
What makes this video really really lack credibility is how you compare his numbers to all time greats, but Leave out Wilt Chamberlain!
But that’s completely understandable, bc Wimby’s numbers are laughable in comparison.
@@champspec he talked about wilt and said he didn't compare the two because they didn't record all of the same stats when wilt was playing
Im so happy my team got this guy. I just hope we can build around him well like denver did with jokic and that injuries wont ruin his career. That would be so disappointing. If all goes well i think wemby can for sure end up being a top 10 to 15 talent in nba history
Top 10/15 talent? He can easily be a top 2 talent with him and Lebron. Career wise, he can easily be a top 10 player all time
@@jacobwilson7301 look bro they have better basketball player all around then wemby in ten years he isn’t event top 20 so don’t fool yourself
It would have been great to also compare minutes per game vs general stats by player as we can notice duncan was 39.1 minutes/game, Bron 39.5 min,Mourning 33.9 min etc and Wemby 28.8 min!it is even more impressive with that stat!!
Wilt and Oscar Robinson had some of the most insane rookie season tho.
30.5 points, 10.1 rebounds, and 9.7 assists - oscar 37.6 points, 27.0 rebounds and 2.3 assists -wilt
Can you imagine if 👽 Wemby put on some muscle....WILT 2.0
@ernestofraijo1418 then he would shoot worse. That's why kd dousnt put on muscle
If we done with the 90s what makes you think the 60s even matter 😂
The rules of 3s in the paint wasn’t there yet.
So We can’t really compare.
@@thecaptain9212 You can't simply ignore history and act like it does not matter or the players that laid the foundation for the NBA are inconsequential. No one is "done with the 90s" other than those that are ignorant and don't care about history. This greatly disrespects some of the greats from the 90s and prior to the 90s by making that ludicrous statement. Don't be a mindless lemming and think for yourself and understand the history of the game.
I was so sure back then that Luka would be a superstar in 2018 but i have never thought that someone would overtake that until Wemby
Im so glad to be witnessing this greatness at 29💯i was young when Lebron came in but now as a adult and understanding the game im just glad to see it and be able to tell my kids if there NBA fans that i seen this
Can’t wait to see the final peak version of Wemby. Already arguably a top 20 player in the league currently with serious top 5 of all time maybe even 🐐potential 👀
The scariest thing about this is that San Antonio has Atlanta by the balls.
They have so much capital that they really can do everything. Wanna trade for a super star? Cool, they got enough picks to trade and enough cap space to pay them. Wanna move up the draft for another generational prospect? Cool, they can trade some of their current players and picks to deliver a good package to get another lottery pick. Wanna take it slow and draft athletic prospects to develop their game and let them build chemistry with Wemby? Cool, they got potential 1st round picks from Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Boston and their own.
I see success in all those three paths. It's gonna take a Herculean effort and bad luck to mess this up, and their front office isn't dumb
Front office is really good
Amazing ending with the minutes. Very excited about basketball’s future.
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As a spurs fan who’s seen almost all of Wemby’s minutes this season, I agree with everything and am not afraid to say he’ll end up as the goat if health permits
How would you feel about Wemby for LeBron and AD?
@@jellyfishbrainedWemby is rookie Lebron untouchable..
:)
@@jellyfishbrainedspurs are not braindead. Not trading for 2 30+ y/o who need all the rest they can get. Trash trade
That's crazy 😂
And let's not sleep on the fact that he's doing this with the entire NBA landscape watching his every move, and having to relocate his entire life overseas. Those are huge external factors that would distract a less-focused talent.
Bsolz was right, the editing on this vid is CLEAN!
Need more info videos like these on players, Fire vid 🔥
He’s going to make serious history.
I’ve been a happy spurs fan for a while . Then the losing seasons came and now thanks to wemby I feel like we’re getting back to spurs culture . Hopefully this offseason we make a lot of smart moves and not just G league and undrafted nobodies .
This rookie is already number one in league. No one even comes close. He scores 20-30 points every game. Not Michael Jordan, Kobe, Steph or Lebron. He will break records after records set by great ones. Amazing player with his height. 7 footers doesn’t normally doesn’t move like a guard.
Why did you not include Wilt? If he is so great then surely he will break some of wilts records right? Also you talk about t footers do move like him. Wilt was 7'2 ran a 40 in 4.5 thats way faster than Wemby. I do agree it still is rare to see this height and agility but we have seen it before.
Lol MJ avg 30 ppg in regular season and playoffs
@@tdup191 stats and numbers don't count apparently.
I LOVE THE VIDEO & YOUR BREAKDOWN..... shout to the team for the handwork & the editing is top tier
I wish he could stay healthy and improve throughout his career, I’m very excited to watch him become one of the greatest players ever.
He could be the answer to the age-old Jordan/LeBron debate!!!
Something that also wasn’t mentioned at the beginning is that his team mates are missing him being open or having a mismatch ab 10 times a night. Not sure if they jealous of the kid or if the upper management is trying to temper his rookie success so they don’t miss out on getting high draft picks the next couple years but w a ts % of 60 that works out to between 12- 18 extra points he could be dropping each game. Bringing his average up to 33 pts a night at minimum 😮
Notwithstanding the fact that Wemby is a fantastic player, isn't it a bit disingenuous to compare the numbers to other eras without mentioning the league wide stat inflation that has been the signature of 2024? There are 46 players averaging 20 or more this year while only 24 guys managed that in Robinson's rookie year.
Yeah but wemby also has less blocking opportunities than players from the 90s would for example
And truthfully with the spurs being as bad as they are I doubt his stats would change much in reality
Yes but also in the 90s he would get even more touches as a big, I don't think center stats have seen as big of a change
@@nimrodrubin9805 I see your point, but I'm not sure that I agree with it as he isn't a traditional "back to the basket" big. He's really just the longest wing we have ever seen.
For me, the blocks and steals are crazy impressive. The points, though, 21 is like putting up 15 in certain eras. Still impressive but hard for me to see 21 in 2024 as an impressive point average.
@@joshuafish98 Again, thats Just the problem when comparing different era's.
You think he would have been a wing in the 90's?
Memories are short.
In 1959-60, Wilt Chamberlain's stat line was 37.6ppg, 27.0rpg, 2.3 apg playing 46.4 minutes per game. Blocks were not officially kept, but contemporaneous reports state that Wilt blocked 5-10 shots per game. Wembanyama is an incredible young player, but to claim he's having the "greatest rookie season ever" is just not true.
True but we by played half those minutes and has 20 11 3.4 and 1.3 with a solid 3 point capability that wilt didn’t have, im saying wemby putting up wilt numbers with that time in that era fs
But Wemby is most certainly NOT putting up Wilt-like numbers, and you can't be certain that he would. It is just as possible that, if he were to play 48 minutes a game like Wilt did, he would tire and his production would fall off.@@raskult
@@Mustapha1963man, wilt is a historic great player, but if Wemby was in the 60’s he’s averaging wilt numbers on less minutes. Best modern season of all time, cos u can’t compare eras that far apart
@@water8635 I'm not so sure.
I think there is no question that the 60s were a MUCH more physical era. When it came to defending Wilt, players all but committed aggravated assault against him- and Wilt still dropped 30 or more on them. The current era is- sorry, not sorry- soft, at least in comparison to back then. Since Wembanyama isn't often subjected to physical defense- or much defense at all- it's hard to say how he would handle Wayne Embry leaning on him for 40 minutes. And the refs letting Embry do it.
@@Mustapha1963 this is another reason why I think comparisons from different eras that far apart are a bit silly. First of all, even if he can’t completely dominate the paint 24/7, he’s gonna do well in that aspect still, and then with his shooting he can pull up over everybody all game. Fouls were still called back then, u we’re just allowed a bit more body, he’d be getting his arms hacked mid shot constantly
Your assessment is EXTREMELY ACCURATE. Just a GREAT analysis.
I keep forgetting that he's doing all of this under a minutes restriction. Not saying he'd be at prime Shaq level scoring with an extra 9 or 10 mins, but that avg would certainly be a few points closer. And that's nuts.
In context, it’s easier for Wemby to do it than it was for the older players. 20 pts in this era is like scoring 13/14 points in the 90’s. Same will all the other stats. Still an elite rookie season though.
Yea some of these stats where very specific & didn’t tell the whole story , like Hakeem Shaq & Drob where all doing those things while shooting over 53% from the field while Wemby is at 47% rn (mind you he’s 7’4)
BPM (which is an era and pace adjusted estimate of on court impact) thinks Wemby at center is about +6.5 this season, which would be one of the best seasons for a 20 year old in history and comparable to, for example, DRob's rookie season at 24 and only a little behind Jordan's rookie season at 21. Taking his time at PF into account, his +4.4 is on par with Magic Johnson's 20 year old rookie season or Duncan's 21 year old rookie season (and well ahead of other guys you might be thinking of, like Shaq and Hakeem).
So yes, it's not technically right to compare the exact numbers, but it turns out in this case it's not really misleading (mostly because he's playing so few minutes compared to any of those classic rookie seasons).
Best LoW video by far. Great work
5:15 that’s crazy, all three of those players went on to win championships and MVP.
Hopefully this brings back respect for the big man. This is why centers are so important. They help regulate pointless empty scoring. These young guys aren't used to aggressive big guys anymore.
Embiid during his rookie year also had a minutes restriction and had really good numbers.
Wemby is gonna be a stud.
Why does LOW only uploads a video like every 3-4 Months. This is my favorite RUclips channel, dude always delivers. I wish he dropped more often, we need that.
Wemby's a special player, unlike almost anyone we have seen. That said, the NBA did not start recording blocked shots until the 1973-74 season. Thus a 23-year-old rookie Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't be eligible for the comparison at 2:15 simply because the stat didn't exist. As a rookie, though, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points and 27.0 rebounds. Basketball historians and commentators "guess" he probably averged at least 5 blocks per game back then as well.
This why Wemby already the goat smh
Stop
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@@nhp5067 JESUS AND GOD LOVES EVERYONE SO MUCH TURN TO THEM BEFORE ITS TO LATE
He'll end the GOAT discussion in 3 years. But there will be better and better players going into the future. The game is evolving.
to be fair all those greats had great coaches, it's reasonable to think pop won't be there in his prime so maybe one of the biggest question marks in his career might be is if he's going to get lucky enough to also have an all-time great coach to cultivate a team to help him reach his highest potential
Wemby is the ROTY and the DPOY in his rookie year.
37.6 points, 27 rebounds, 2.3 assists and unknown steals and blocks in his rookie season, but considering he did have a record 8.8 blocks per game across over 100 game span later in his career, it's safe to assume he had a few blocks and steals at the least. His debut nba game he scored 43 points and 28 rebounds against the new york knicks who had a 6'5 pg, 6'0 sg, a 6'3 sf, 6'7 pf, and 6'11 220 lb center. This player was Wilt Chamberlain.
Amen brother! So many either don't know of Wilt or simply blow him off as a myth. No one ever dominated on both ends of the floor as Chamberlain did.
@@Mik-xq2co exactly, and people would rather come up with their own narrative of the 60s and 70s rather than believe that they missed out on seeing the greatest player of all time. "plumbers and firefighters" , "Where's the footage?" , "he was taller than everybody else". All false narratives driven by disbelief and a general lack of knowledge of the decades past. Us few who know and believe are privileged to a true legend.
@@tylerhall9412wilt was the greatest player of that era by a mile, and the fact that the competition wasn’t as good doesn’t take away from what he did back then. But Wemby is averaging wilt numbers in the 60’s on less minutes. And that’s facts.
@@water8635 no it isn't, wemby isn't even close to wilt numbers. and I'd say a lot of the competition was better. Bill Russel and the 60s Celtics would beat any team from today, and any team from the 60s could beat today's Detroit pistons lil
@@tylerhall9412 ur smokin dookie my brother, and I meant that Wemby would average wilt numbers if he played back then. Wilt was clearly a mile better than the entire league, but he’s not averaging those numbers in 2024, not to say he wouldn’t be the best player in the league, cos he prolly would be. But those numbers were a product of the era, and wilt. Not just wilt.
Yes we have Shaq, Hakeem, and David Robinson
Oh my glorious, long, future goat Wemby. When I first layed my eyes upon that gorgeous silky smooth jump shot I knew you were dominating the league. Towering over others with that good D. Victor Wetbananas, so young with so much talent and time I wish you well along your legendary journey overthrowing LeCutiePatooti.
If he plays at least 14 yrs at this level or better, he could land in the top 20 of all time.
The whole key to this, “he’s on a minute restriction”
Wilt's Rookie Season: 37.6 Ponts, 27 Rebounds, 2.3 Assists, 7+ Block Shots/ I guess he did not exist. He was a dream. Wemby is great and has that potential or I should say close to it.
Big agree on his playing improvement.. wemby and chet may started equal but now wemby is further ahead
He is raising the bar and NBA needs to raise the hoop.
Impressively produced and presented video. I usually do not think to myself when watching a video like this, that whoever is making this video they really got their shjit together. Congrats.
I'll tell you this, he's getting more playing time than most rookies. With that said, he's on a short list of players who've been as impactful for their team as Wemby is to the spurs. With Lebron and Curry retiring in the near future, it's great to see so many future HOF players playing at a high level.
The NBA had so many superstars, and up until Wemby, I thought that the league was kind of starting to fizzle out. Slowing loosing those dynamic superstars and not refilling them very fast. With Lebron and Curry at the end of their careers, we're leaving the league in the hands of players like Joker and Luka. While they're dominant, they don't necessarily have the same GOAT energy that players like Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Iverson, KD, Curry had/have. Players like Melo and Tmac would step on the floor, and you just knew that you were in big f*cking trouble. Shaq was literally unstoppable; you just held on for dear life or got the hell out of the way. And the diesel just owned the spotlight. He was charismatic and just a damn good entertainer.
I don't know, Wemby is just one of those players that, if he can remain healthy, can be one of those Goat type players. He has that killer instinct at such a young age.
Wemby is so fucking sick man, Chet is sick too, they're both like 20+ PER. What a rookie class, imagine if these guys stay healthy, both have top 10 potential, and obvs Wemby legitimately could be the best player in the league.
Wemby is treating the best players in the world like He's a Middle School Gym coach playing against his pre-teen students on the 8.5" rim.
Wilt Chamberlain did it all and even better.
Wembyama 😭😭😂😂 *Wembanyama
He’s also doing this on a minute restriction.
Victor's Rookie advance stats
PER 22.9
TS% 56.9
WS/48 0.077
OBPM 1.5
DBPM 2.9
VORP 2.6 ( roughly 0.0016 per minute)
Shaq's Rookie advanced stats
PER 22.9
TS% 58.4
WS/48 0.163
OBPM 2.0
DBPM 1.5
VORP 4.3 (0.0014 per minute)
Goes to show how dominant Shaq was.
@@jellyfishbrained indeed. Shaq was placed as a top 50 all time player after 4 years in the NBA.
And you did not even mention the most insane thing about him. His off ball movement is unbelievable.
Shaw was dropping 30 without 3s Victor could never
So Shaq was less skilled?
got it
He better win DPOY. He’s basically put it out of reach already statistically even if he doesn’t play another minute. The NBA and journalists better not screw him over just because he’s a rookie and hasn’t “pAiD hIs DuEs.”
Boys doing this well at 19. He's gonna fill out a bit and really put the power in power forward.
Wilt: 37.6 points 27 RPG 12 blocks 4.3 assists Rookie season! MVP!
He is the greatest of all time in certain categories that we have never seen any giant players do. And he is only a teenager.
Better rookie season than Wilt's???? I know we try to act like his numbers don't count, but what about Elvin Hayes (ROY and regular season MVP, while averaging 28 and 17)?!!
It seems that most NBA fans(including myself) devalue the stats in his rookie campaign due to the fact that the NBA only had 8 teams. Plus, the only other 7 FOOTER in the league when WILT joined was Swede Halbrook.💯 The level of competition is much greater now than then.
Chamberlain had 37.2 points, 27.0 rebounds, 2.3 assists, and 10.7 blocked shots (per the leagues premier statistician of the day, Harvey Pollack)
its unnoficial tho so it doesnt count
Yo Robinson was going absolutely crazy 32, 11, and 7? Bro that's sounds like a Jokic stat
You forgot Wilt Chamberlain's rookie year, as most seem to like to do. Kareem did pretty well, also, if I remember correctly. Check their stats. This young man does look good, though. Not trying to detract from him, just adding some forgotten references.
This kid has a REALLY good shot at being the best defensive player the game has ever seen! Maybe even the best player!!
I project that Wemby will enter the top 25 discussion within the next five years, then the top 10 discussion three years after that. But his ranking is dependent on whether or not the spurs take full advantage of Wemby while he’s still young. Tall players tend to decline once they enter their thirties, so they have about 10 years to make Vic the GOAT. (And I’m not worried about any major injuries since he’s obviously very conscious about the risk and takes mobility very seriously.)
I’d love to see your projection process. I personally use the OOMA (out of my ass) algorithm.
@@alexkaplan1136 the OOMA algorithm works 100% of the time 😂
Boi Boi call Shaq 😂😂😂😂😂
Worst/best part is hes only a rookie. That means barring drastic injuries this is the worst we are going to see this man
kind of a hot take but he’s the best rookie of all time. definitely the best rookie in the past 10 years.
He's up there for sure, especially for his age but you don't even really need to give that caveat. Only guys with a strong (age adjusted) argument since the merger for a comparable (not better) rookie season are LeBron and MJ, I think. At least on a rate basis. When you account for minutes played there are a few guys better since a lot of rookies played close to 40 a night, but mostly just guys from that HOFer list in the video.
Victor Wembanyama is the shohei otani of basketball
Great post editing 👌
Robinson and Hakeem numbers were so much better it's not even close. I don't see any comparison
Pop trying to protect the admirals stats with minute restrictions 😂
Imagine Wemby with 38 minutes per game💀
best coach in the league.....wemby is a sponge for wisdom. Amazing humble giant.
hes so good
Huge work on the editing ! And great video too. The way you approach his stat lines and how you compare him to others are pertinently put 👍
Gained a sub ❤
There’s no way someone with this body type stays injury-free. Enjoy it while it lasts
The Greatest Rookie of All Time was obviously Wilt Chamberlain! "As a rookie with the Warriors, Chamberlain averaged 37.6 points, 27 rebounds, and 2.3 assists in 72 games. In addition to the honor for first year players, he was also awarded All-Star Game MVP and NBA MVP, making him the only player to win all three in the same season." "The NBA did not record blocked shots until the 1973-74 season." Bill "Russell estimated that he and Wilt averaged about 8-10 blocks per game in their careers." (Googled quotes)
If Trae really does come to spurs, wemby gonna average 35 pts effortlessly while Trae getting 15 ast a night
I can see Pops coaching for another 15 years, plowing through baldness, arthritis, and into about 7-8 years of hard-core dementia.
Can we admit pop may know how to develop his players
I just love it when players live up to unreasonable expectations. The last to do it was LeBron. Before that Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Wilt... Those may be the top 5 to live up to expectations. Vic has a way to go but so far so great!
3:36 "Larry Brid"
You should look up Kareem Abdul-Jabbars stats.
Great video LOW, also what is the music at 10:40
Wilt Chamberlain had a rookie season that statistically was better, but Wemby is only 20. If he stays healthy and gains strength his potential to become one of the all time great players is easy to envision.
Bring back playback vids pls
His only weakness is low FG percentage. He should focus more on the paint and mid range.
What about pace of game and how easy it is to score this season
10:29 what is the background music?
It really needs to be studied how San Antonio has essentially managed to help mold and develop 3 GENERATIONAL BIG MEN of ALL TIME in LEAGUE HISTORY