Whilst it's hard to predict at this stage, there has been some talk of open access operators along the WCML (despite it already being the busiest railway in Europe!). First of all, Grand Central was going to operate a London - Blackpool service, but this fell through due to covid. The latest talk has been of an operator called Grand Union, operating London - Stirling, and I'm not sure what the status is of that one. However I don't think either of these (despite being open access operators) would be 'budget' in the same way that Lumo is, so it will be interesting to see what happens!
Actually the 801s are electric only, the on-board diesel motor only being used in event of a OHLE failure if the train gets stranded. You're probably thinking of the class 800s, which are indeed bi-mode, and designed to use their diesel capabilities on a regular basis. In any case, however, the train from this video is a class 803, which doesn't even have a backup diesel generator. Instead, it has batteries which can keep the lights on and stuff, but won't propel the train. So in the event of it getting stranded, it would need to be towed!
@@neilmarktaylor4386 yeah it is hard to keep up with it all! On top of this, it's going to get harder with the future introductions of the 810s for EMR and 805s and 807s for Avanti West Coast!
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Came here from Geoff's video and was very impressed by your commentary and editing. Looking forward to seeing more videos in the future.
Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed!
Lumo should do very well. And the Lumo Class 803 IETs are very smart.
By far the best video you have made
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember meeting you, It was so fun! Always remember, It's Grand Union 😉
Haha yes! I've always had difficulty remembering the name of that, but hopefully you'll help cement it in my mind!
Excellent video! I wonder what lines next will have lower cost open access trains? Maybe a London to Cornwall route for the summer holiday market?
Whilst it's hard to predict at this stage, there has been some talk of open access operators along the WCML (despite it already being the busiest railway in Europe!).
First of all, Grand Central was going to operate a London - Blackpool service, but this fell through due to covid.
The latest talk has been of an operator called Grand Union, operating London - Stirling, and I'm not sure what the status is of that one.
However I don't think either of these (despite being open access operators) would be 'budget' in the same way that Lumo is, so it will be interesting to see what happens!
@@MikeWillSee There is also a welsh route planned for Grand Union isnt there?
@@oskartomas yes there is, but I'm not sure what the status is on that. Last I heard it wasn't happening...
Nice!
The 801 are run on both diesel and electric so these trains can run where there are no overhead wires
Actually the 801s are electric only, the on-board diesel motor only being used in event of a OHLE failure if the train gets stranded. You're probably thinking of the class 800s, which are indeed bi-mode, and designed to use their diesel capabilities on a regular basis.
In any case, however, the train from this video is a class 803, which doesn't even have a backup diesel generator. Instead, it has batteries which can keep the lights on and stuff, but won't propel the train. So in the event of it getting stranded, it would need to be towed!
@@MikeWillSee my bad all these numbers are confusing which is which
@@neilmarktaylor4386 yeah it is hard to keep up with it all! On top of this, it's going to get harder with the future introductions of the 810s for EMR and 805s and 807s for Avanti West Coast!
I hate the colour
Bit like marmite, some love it, some hate it!