When Peter Dinklage says that "there are no better writers than D&D and they nailed the ending" he sounds like a hostage reading a script while a guy is pointing a gun at him off-camera.
Bcoz of this, he went to therapy. Kit was openly disappointed about it and love his character. Possibly he got expectation only to rob of it. After lamenting, he still got what he deserved. Still casted to MCU, despite saying bad comment to show. Honest man may disappoint people, but never disappoint God.
@@brianmayabella5992 First of all, don't bring ''God'' into this, it's not the right place. Secondly, I advice you against speculating why he went to therapy as we don't really know, it might have been due to several complex reasons, it's really simplistic to say ''he went to therapy because of this or that'' - it's never just one thing. Anyway, it's his private matter and not your place to speculate about, even if you think you do it out of sympathy. Respecting his privacy and not speculating about his mental health process would be more sympathethic.
The fact that GRRM, the author of the books, spent decades bringing Jamie's character up, evolving him as a human and at the end to have Dumb and Dumber bring him back to the same position as where he started still baffles me
The writing was certainly bad, however to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 I agree with most things you said but I don't think George made any such promise. Sure everyone was expecting for him to release TWoW, including himself, but to promise? There are no promises in Hollywood, just contracts. Plus D&D are not children to be held by the hand, they had unlimited resources to get the best writers, to make more seasons like George wanted or if they really wanted to move on to pass the project along to someone else. Instead they decided to get the 'prestige' of writing and finishing it themselves, to rush it all so that they can move to Star Wars. It's like saying your wife left you because your boss promised you a raise and never gave you one. GRRM is not at fault
@@MagisterVeritas He sure did, it was on that condition the show was greenlit because the showrunners and HBO didn't want the exact thing that happened to happen.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 can you show us what paperwork or document outlines George's promise? Because if they're just taking George's word for it, without any documentation whatsoever, then they brought that upon themselves. You don't just start a series because the author said "trust me bro it'll be finished"
@@A_Black_Sheep94 The show was literally offered more seasons because they left out so much from the books. HBO also wanted the last two seasons to be 10 episodes, so it's really just D&D's masterfully shitty writing and time management. All they had to do was follow the books, and they half-assed that too.
@@emilychristina3172 Simple: they had a deal to go work on Star Wars and they were incapable of writing any kind of story anyway, so they did it in 5 minutes during a coffee-break and went to grab money elsewhere.
I'll be 80 years old on my deathbed, decades from now, muttering to my great-grandchildren about "how stupid was it when David Benioff actually said 'Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet'..."
"There are no better writers on television than D&D..." I love how Peter Dinklage says this with all the enthusiasm and sincerity of someone reading cue cards after being told "say these words and we'll give you 20 dolla".
@@chanell3166 He is just doing his job as an actor. I disagree with him, but he chose to advertise the show instead of giving his personal opinion about it. I don't know what I would do in that situation.
I have to imagine Kit was just heart-broken reading that script. Those tears are genuine, disappointed, decade-long-effort-wasted tears. I mean, killing Dany has to hurt, but... killing the show had to hurt way more.
Well I mean that pretty much is going to happen in the books. He’s going to kill Dany. It’s just how we get there that’s going to be radically different.
After Game of Thrones ended, Kit Harington checked himself into therapy and rehab because filming the show took such a massive toll on him. I'm not trying to make jokes when I say that the ending might've played a part in it as well. It was a decade of his life, the defining role of his whole career, and Season 8 was supposed to be the payoff. At least he met, dated, and married Rose Leslie (Ygritte) and they have two kids. That alone was worth the whole thing.
0:57 The fact that an actor as talented as Peter Dinklage said this sentence the way he did, not even hiding that he's being sarcastic, is absolutely awesome
I feel really sorry for Varyes and his actor. He worked so fucking hard to give us the most interesting character for so many seasons. And then his death felt so fucking poorly written, and rushed and sudden that it was a genuine shock because of how stupid it was.
I feel so bad for Kit. Imagine devoting yourself to a role you’ve been doing for years, training hard mentally and physically to fulfill it to the best of your abilities, then some writers fuck up everything and all of your efforts go to waste.
At least we got 4 great seasons and 2 good seasons and 1 alright season. Let’s all just pretend season 8 never happened and imagine a good ending in our heads.
I thought Jon’s ending wasn’t that bad, at least not compared to Dany and Jaime for example. But I feel bad for Kit as an actor, he really had nothing to work with in S8 he had like two lines he repeated all over again.
@@caseymartin6337 then they got fired from that lol. Honestly there just terrible people. They could have just not written season 8 and whoever did it instead would have done it a thousand times better.
Because he had the best, most complex character who’s endured the most for the right outcome only to have his character become Cersei’s hopeless slave once again
@@brendonbuffaloe8830 And that within like the last 2 episodes. Jaime actually was the only character which seemed to outlast shitty writing, but then gets completely fucked in a blink of an eye.
@@Illusive1313 Yeah he was fine until he had a one-night stand with Ser Brienne only to break her heart by leaving. It was such an unbecoming move for him
You can tell D&D were so proud of themselves for the ending during that table reading. They not only had no idea people would accurately see this as garbage writing, they actually thought they had a masterpiece.
Yeah I think its obvious that with the success of the show early on, D&D had an over inflated option of themselves. I'm sure during that table reading that it may not have seemed bad at first, but after you let it sink in and think about it, that's when you realize its hot garbage.
In the early seasons it was'nt them writing, it was George that did all the work, but they received all the Credit and were suddenly the best in history (even though they tried to change or add stuff in that usually maked the show less good). Then the source material ran out and the show got worse, right? LIES, they actively choose to cut material from the book, Griff, Dorne, most of daenerys's plot, because they simply thought "look at this emmy dude, we are the frickin best! We dont need that old man and his dusty books to help us out". And when they realized they could'nt make stuff up, they simply put epic battles and fanservice moments, and aparently everyone liked it (battle of the bastards is considered one of the best, if not the best episode. Despite having dumb moments and plot armor), but you can only use this so much until people realize it.
He read about his character in the books and was disappointed with how much they changed him. Lem Lemoncloak's actor as well. He ended up recording his big speech from the books that Lem gives to Jaime when the Brotherhood Without Banners are about to pull off something at the Twins. In the show, he was an ex-member that murdered the Hound's sponsor(?), Idk what he was, that guy Ray was based on two characters.
Idk, I prefer Peter's "he's raising the dead and they put the women and children in a crypt full of dead people! I guess Tyrion is smart but he's not that smart"
All my love to Kit, who was only given a few lines for the entirety of the last season: "I dontwant it", "shes my queen" and that's it. And screw all the people hating on him and saying he was a bad actor. He tried to do the best he could do with an awful script and this damaged him deeply, he needed therapy after this and I blame D&D for all of it. Poor guy, he deserved better, and so did Jon.
Apparently he started therapy when Jon’s character became a bigger focus on the show (around the time Jon died), not after the show. He went to rehab for drinking after the show ended.
When Gwendolyn said "people will need therapy after" she wasn't kidding. It's been 3 years and I'm still not over how much time I wasted watching the first 7 seasons just to arrive at the dumpster fire that was season 8
I used to regret not watching the show when everyone else did, I didn't feel the hype at the time. I did watch it once it was finished though, and thank God I did because I don't think I'd know how to deal with 10 years of investment leading up to this absolute dumpster fire.
I’ve just barely started watching it. Got halfway to season 3 and I’ve given up. It’s pretty dull, the deus ex machina writing where by some divine stars the bad guys always win is just dog shit. I don’t mind bad guys winning, but at least make it realistic. In this, backstabbing just occurs randomly and out of the blue with no build up or barely a reason but to make the audience feel a cheap form of sympathy and hate. It got old. There’s better ways to write moments like these rather than random deception.
@@Radbiker33357The books are better but the first 3 seasons do follow the books quite well even though the story is rushed and compressed. I don't see how you found it dull, maybe these kind of stories are just not for you. I mean random events? It's explained most of the times and it's done right, if you think it's *unrealistic* for characters to die "randomly" then you clearly don't live in the same reality the rest of us live in. However if we're talking about seasons after the 4th one then sure things begin to make no sense not because it's unrealistic per se but because it's poorly explained or not explained at all.
@@Radbiker33357 I know what you mean. I’ve tried watching stuff like star wars and lord of rings and it’s just like “meh im gonna go watch some paint dry instead” haha I did like the first season of GOT tho, but I hate waiting week after week for suspenseful shows so I intentionally sat out the series so I could just watch it all at my own speed when it was over - so then when the show really started falling apart in seasons 7 & 8, it wasn’t a total bummer because I hadn’t invested a whole decade into it
I think he played the heck out of that role. He definitely put his all into it. Not disagreeing with you about the writing but he took that bad writing and made it work. I know I need to read the books and plan to this summer to get a better understanding of things. Very excited.
I feel absolutely horrible for this whole cast. They spent nearly a decade of their lives on this show, and for the majority of them it literally launched their careers. The younger ones literally grew up making this show, and you can tell everyone got so close while making it and genuinely loved doing it and loved each other. So when all this hard work they’ve put in for years gets smacked across the face with some of the worst writing I’ve ever seem , I can’t imagine how insulted they felt.
Especially because people like Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, Alfie Allen, and Isaac Hempstead Wright were just too young and too unknown to have any kind of leverage, but they're boxed into this type cast from a pair of idiot writers who couldn't wait to get their hands on that Star Wars money. Fortunately D&D didn't even get that, but they really screwed the kids over.
@@Inbraneinthememsane at least that's what they got. 200k $ for every episodes. At the end it's a job and they're just the employee. Even though their boss fucked up, the money still come to their pockets.
@@sweetembrace6706 Never happens at all. Everyone knows that Hollywood is the greatest place for actors to feel comfortable, to do their best on screen, and feel happy and secure with their roles. There’s never been a single mishap or crisis between actors and directors.
I firmly believe the execs at HBO should’ve immediately fired D&D upon reading the S8 script, hired some talented new writers, and taken the show to at least 10 seasons to tell the story properly and fully.
I read somewhere that HBO and Martin wanted the show to last longer. But it seemed to me the DnD knew they were bad writers, they were decent at getting what Martin had already written and making it into series format, but making original good dialog and material? No, that sucked. And I think they knew, so they wanted to end it asap while HBO wanted more. I think they were offered a total of 15 seasons.
@@edenjung9816 the actors wanted to move on too. It was a great show and it gave a huge opportunity to many of them to be known but it was 10 years. They really didn't have the power (they are actors, not the freaking owners of HBO) and they didn't have the energy (many wanted to start other projects or just to move on).
Emilia Clarkes facial expression and delivery of her saying “best season ever!” Says it all and is the most honest. She hid it the worst compared to everyone.
The monologue in each GoT actor's head: Say good things in the press tour, keep my paycheck. Say good things in the press tour, keep my paycheck. YOU CAN DO THIS.
You know for a fact each one is gonna go full Boyega. Once their paychecks and contracts are up (which tend to continue after filming to keep good press for awhile) they are all going to tear the thing to pieces.
@@dumbdude3103 I'm still waiting for more of them to come out about the ending. I think they will but they may not have the balls to do so for another year. hbo got them to trained
@@dumbdude3103 Yea it's been a hot minute, the only thing we really got is Peter Dinklage doubling down and calling the fans entitled crybabies who didn't get the happy ending they wanted.
Gendry's actor also said what he was thinking...." Character development? Nah..." that's what he thought about the last 2 seasons. Honestly, he's more like Gendry than Show Gendry...
"So how does Season 8 end?" 99% of cast members: "Ah hahahahahahaaaaaa....." **nervous glances** Peter Dinklage and Liam Cunningham: **dials sarcasm up to 111%**
Poor Kit. This show meant so much to him. I feel really sorry for all the actors/crew etc who put so much into the show and all they've seen since the end was how much everyone hated the last season. D&D's fault, sure, but it must be a bitter pill to swallow for everyone else who worked so hard on the show.
@@barberro3435 I felt like in the last couple of scenes you could see them give up. The acting was overall good as always, but the “Bran is king” scene stood out because it felt like they weren’t really there.
@@harrydavey9884 I'd argue even as far back as season 5 the show was starting to crack. Then plot armor happened and nothing ever made sense again. Season 6&7 were mostly okay, some great scenes, some questionable ones, but not anything bad enough that it couldn't have been redeemed with an amazing season 8. There is no realistic way to please everyone, so dumb and dumber decided to subvert all of our expectations by giving us an ending everyone hated.
@Come to success i imagine a scene that right after Cersie blew up the sept the people in kings landing started a revolt as there faith was shattered with there beloved and my girl Margaery. Varys used the power of public's rage and killed the lannisters. With a little help of Danaerys and her image became of a heroine. They fought the night king after Danny took the Iron Throne. In the war many of our favs died because thats what happens in war no plot armour Danny ruled happily ever after.
I feel for Kit the most. Imagine devoting to your character for years, growing to love him, and then some dudes decide to give him the worst ending posible out of your power and there is nothing you can do, just commit to the acting and wait until it's over.
Yes I feel he was the most emotionally attached to the show, Emilia Clark was too but she's more versatile than Kit , you could clearly see Kit was still not over it when he was complaining about the crew throwing away the iron throne after everything was over during the final cast reunion.
@@genox3636 Not being the one to kill the Night King. Being the one who kills Daenerys. He could have had a much better ending. Just being the one to kill the Night King would have been enough but they didn't even give him that.
I feel bad for Emilia Clarke even more than Jon snow. He didn’t even want to be king plus he died and was revived so everything after that was just him playing with house money.
As a casual fan it was so weird when, for YEARS, they were saying "Winter is coming." how the white walkers going to turn the world to ice. I thought it was going to be the entire season 8 just fighting them, king's landing covered in ice, characters conflicted fighting zombie-verison of friends, but no it was 1 episode- half in the dark- with a dues ex machia of 'kill boss, army dies'. Huge disappointment. I got 2ed hand embarrassment from Arya's slow motion knife drop like writers thought that was beyond cool.
Not to mention how she manifests out of the fucking ether. That's the only way I can think to explain how she got anywhere near the Night King when he is literally surrounded by White Walkers on every side. Also, where the hell was she jumping from, they were on a flat patch of ground. The excuse I always hear is "she was disguised as a white walker" but that never holds up to scrutiny.
@@Hundo44 That's not an explanation. She's never been shown to move that fast or slip by that invisibly. It's just another flimsy justification for the lousy writing with nothing to back it up.
@@judaihyuga I mean she avoided a ton of white walkers in a confined space whilst exhausted. She disappears in seconds behind another bookshelf at one point when one hears her blood. Never said it as an excuse but don’t act like season 1 she wasn’t sneaking up on trained warriors lmao
@@luisn642 Lord is not king. Bran will be king in the books too probably. GRRM has hinted that the books end the same way, just the path there is different.
6:33 you know what I find funny af about Varus looking so done?? In an interview, Emilia Clarke said that Varus admitted he was the one who left his starbucks in the scene.
@@jakematthews257 George RR Martin thought it should have had 13 seasons to tell the full story properly. As far as I know, HBO was all for extending the series. I mean why not? It was the most popular show in the world. But Dumb and Dumber had a golden goose, but decided to rush the end so they could do some stupid Star Wars thing and then they ended up backing out of that and are now they’re working with Netflix. What’s interesting is that they’ve made basically nothing for Netflix. I think all they’ve made is a Leslie Jones comedy special. It doesn’t matter to me anyway. I refuse to watch anything they’re involved in.
@@ashwinsharma8842 I definitely think that 10 seasons would’ve been perfect more stuff in 7 to lead to 8 which could’ve been a more fleshed out battle against the night king and more struggle season 9 could’ve then been defeating Cersei season 10 could’ve been danys fall to madness
I literally just watched it for the first time this year on hbo .... wanted to see the coffee cup, wanted to see Jason momoa , wanted to see what everyone was talking about ... I nearly broke the tv at the end 🥺
Just watched it for the first time a couple weeks ago. The whole first 4 seasons were nothing short of a master class of a show - I’d never seen anything like it on TV. God, what a fucking disappointment it turned into after that. 😔
The reason we're not over it was cause the first four seasons were so damn good, and then they completely ruined them to the point where many fans won't even rewatch the first four, especially considering the first scene is setting something up that has basically no payoff
I feel so bad for the whole cast who put their hearts and souls into these characters but I feel bad for Emilia especially. She's so sweet and she really loved the character of Daenerys only to see her get butchered.
Also, they lied to her about what Danerys did. She thought Danerys activated accidentally a chain reaction of wildfire, when she was burning the Red keep, that ended up destroying kingslanding and killing everyone. That's what said the original season 8 script. That's what she recorded. Only when it came out did she discover what Danerys actually did. And she was in a public screening with like 40 ppl. They did her so dirty, Dany and Emilia.
@@loganburnette5485 and that's the thing right, its better because it would be believable. Problem is that's also forgivable in a sense, accidentally setting off wildfire doesn't make her evil enough or "mad" enough. Imagine if they had Jon kill dany for accidentally destroying a city.
Ikr, I’m sure she was so upset. I believe she truly got so much strength from her character after she got her brain aneurysm after season 1 to fight for her life. It must be heartbreaking to see that character being butchered by 2 incompetent idiots.
@@SkylineLynar The only way this works is if, after destroying the city accidentally, she sees the survivors being more docile towards her. She makes it known that she realizes the only way for her to rule effectively, people should fear her.
@@Daughter-of-Palestine A smirk is not a comfort smile. I call it how I see it and I see a smirk.. I don't see sympathy or comfort in her eyes.. I see "haha Kitt my good friend Masie gets to do it".
I’ve been rewatching the GoT series and I’m in the eighth season now. Was thinking I was originally too harsh, but I honestly don’t think I was harsh enough. They took the opportunity to make a once in a generation show and literally flushed it down the toilet. So freaking dumb.
If you leave it at the end of season 6 with the Dragon lady heading to Westeros its not that bad. Cliff hanger endings arent good but its infinitely better than the last 2 seasons, which were somehow so bad they retroactively made the previous seasons worse. Ive never seen a show that completely destroys its rewatch value with the last season before. It was somehow worse than LOST.
Shout out to the writers for wasting Emilia Clarke’s time. The entire show was spent leading up to her taking the Iron Throne and then they all of a sudden kill her dragons and then just say she went crazy out of nowhere and had to die. Absolutely disgraceful.
Imagine reading the books and thinking 'oh wow I'm cast to play this super sinister eldritch-magic using pirate lord'. Oh wait, I'm actually cast as "a finger in the bum".
Actually he was originally like that and the actor was the one who wanted him to be played how he is in the show and rewrote the script showed it to d and d and they agreed
It was so easy to just finish this show the way fans had especulated for it to be. No plot twists, no subverting the expectations. Just finish the story with greatness, epicity and respect for the source material.
You really do have to wonder what Nikolai was thinking when he first had to read the "I never really cared much for them" line. You devote yourself to a character for all these years, you probably know them inside and out, you deliver this incredible monologue with them talking about how they care about those innocents and then... that shitty line.
It's just a real shame that the actors didn't band together and tell the writers "no, we're not doing this, sorry. Write another version that doesn't assassinate the characters and their relationships which we've been working for 10 years to build."
Would’ve been infinitely better if those actors just wrote it themselves, they clearly cared way more about the characters. Or it would’ve been better if they just canceled the show after season 6 or 7.
I feel so bad for these actors. Most have been playing their characters for like a decade and have been so devoted in their characters and seeing how shitty the ending is just broke them.
To be honest, i would have quit at that tableread. Or seeing the Script for the 8th Season. Not with me. Then again, they wanted to act and maybe save it. So i dunno.
@@cornchipuniverse6575 based on that comment I can assume you’re a man. Because she didn’t become a bitch, she became strong. And I know that your gender can’t tell the difference.
3:24 Kit: *double facepalm into disbelief* Emilia: *yup, it's that bad!* Kit: *I'm so sorry* Emilia: *I want to crawl under this desk and die right now* Kit: *I spent a decade... working towards... this?*
I mean, that part makes total sense, Daenerys was always kinda crazy, it was obvious she would become a mad queen. And Jon was very honorable but also kinda hot headed so yeah, it's not hard to believe all that to happen. The problem was how we got there, with season 7 and 8 being a mess. People who hate the ending "because Daenerys wouldn't kill children" or "I didn't want XX or YY character to die" are kinda clueless really.
@@AlejandroLZuvic it wasn’t obvious. It may have been leading down that path after a few more seasons, but it was not “obvious” she would just decide to Willy nilly genocide women and children even AFTER she had already won the battle & they surrendered. We see even up to S7 that she still put her life on the line for others. & that she still cared about life because she didn’t “want to be queen of the ashes” Then in a few episodes she does exactly that because her advisor & best friend died & that caused “madness”. What a lazy, trite plot device. I read somewhere that the original ending was she would accidentally set off the Wild fire in the city & that would kill almost everyone which would make more sense, at least for her character. Accidentally killing everyone after you “won” the battle would be way more bittersweet. Of course, then they couldn’t justify Jon killing Dany to get the shock value they were going for.
@@Allaiya. yeah, I agree with you. The passage from "girl who is fair but also kind of fanatical and will justify the means for the end" to "oy my God she's burning children alive" was unexistent, it needed more work through season 6 and 7. We totally agree on that, and it's a heavy problem I have with the last seasons. But some people literally say "she would never do that, she never did something wrong she would never..." c'mon, if you have watched more than three movies you could see "mad queen" telegraphed from season 2 or 3. Fleshig out that passage is where they failed miserably, not the actual ending. EDIT: I honestly have never read about that wild fire theory. Yeah that would also made sense too! It's really hard to make a lovable character into a hatred character without telegraphing their evilness so an accident in a moment of rage would make lots of sense.
The fact that Emilia Clarke literally almost died for this damn show only to get screwed over in the final season is hateful. The fact that Kit Harington put his very soul into Jon Snow only for his moment of glory to be given to another character and forcing him to go to therapy to deal with how truly heartbroken and let down he was is hateful. The fact that Maisie Williams' performance as Arya was so poignant and powerful that she didn't need to beat the Night King in order to be considered heroic and now she has to deal with the fact that the fans hate that her character stole Jon's endgame is hateful. The fact that Sophie Turner can't enjoy her own character's ending because she sees the injustice everyone else got dealt in contrast is hateful. The fact that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Gwendoline Christie worked so hard to bring a beautiful slow-burn love story that they both fell in love with to life only to have it ripped away for a cheap ending for Jaime and Cersei is hateful. The fact that Lena Heady was robbed of a theatrical and performative death scene for Cersei that would have won her all of the awards after a decade of crafting the perfect antagonist character is hateful. Season 8 as a whole and the heathen failures who betrayed their whole fandom for a cash grab are, in fact, H A T E F U L. Thank you for coming to my fucking TED Talk.
They all tried to be as diplomatic as possible, but Sophie and Emilia were the most honest on camera. They didn’t really seem to worry about hiding their hate for it.
@@jonathantheslow You’re right. I’d say he was more professional about it than, say Emilia was, but it was obvious that he hated it and talked about it on camera. In later interviews, Conleth Hill (Varys) made it pretty clear that how he felt about it as well. They completely destroyed his character. I think he used the term “weatherman”. During the last two seasons he would just pop in and give updates.
It's honestly incredible how Dave and Dan managed to destroy nearly every character in the show. I didn't think such a thing was possible. It had to be done on purpose. It's not as if D&D didn't know how to write- there are some fantastic scenes in the first few seasons that were wholly their invention and were very well written. Seasons 5 and 6 had lazy writing, but 7 and 8 almost seem like they were actively sabotaged by D&D. The awfulness was another level entirely.
That's because up to season 4 they had the books to copy from after they caught up to the books in season 5 their incompetence as writers became clear.
@@derekmulling745 they didn't caught up shit, they left 90% of book 4 and 60% of book 5 out when put the rest in s5. Also cut the epilouge of book 3 with lady stonehearth. Thet could easily made 6 seasons completely based of the books, or at least in big proportions
@@derekmulling745 The writing was certainly bad but I wouldn't say it's the worst I've ever seen. However to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
The only headcanon that matters to me now is one where Gwendoline Christie hosts a group therapy session with the cast of this show and the cast of the Star Wars sequels and everyone just has a good time.
Right? Poor man(not so poor, he got his paycheck), but come on. He was the best. He had put effort throughout years, he basically brought Jon Snow from the books to life by portraying his nobility and honesty in such impeccable performance, only to say ma queen and i don wunt it in the season and to be fucked by 2 greedy guys.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 it always hurts to see something you love and have worked hard to create get ruined by someone else. I'm sorry you don't know the feeling because you've never been part of a worth-while project.
Harington cried because he spent a third of his life on the show, met his wife there, and can't look back at it all as fondly as he would like because the ending. He and Mr. Cunningham, the Onion Knight, were very open and honest about it all and I respect that.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 relax dude, he never said he had PTSD or that he was miserable because of the ending. He just put it like "it was a great time in my life and I didn't quite like how those 10 years ended", that's it.
Joe, Kit, Conleth, Nic and Emilia were so brilliant in theire interview. Kit's "disappointing" statement was jsut pure gold, as was Nic "The end is gonna suck" and especially Joe with his "Character Development? naaaaah". :D
i’ll never forgive dumb and dumber for ruining what could’ve been the best show of all time. i can’t even go back and watch my favorite scenes without seizing up in either anger or crippling disappointment. so so sad.
Honest to god, I don’t think it was their fault. I believe this was G.R.R. Martin’s ending from the beginning, and he was using the show to field test it. That’s why the next book has been on pause for sooo long. Because he wanted to see people’s reactions to the show first.
@@GrndAdmiralThrawnyou’ve clearly misunderstood people’s criticisms. i’m not talking about the endings for the characters, i’m talking about the way they got there. hbo was willing to pay for 10 seasons with 10 episodes each just like before but d&d decided they’d grown bored with the project. they chose to wrap up the story in 13 episodes, throwing important plot lines and plain old logic straight out of the window. they could’ve given control over to people who would’ve handled the material correctly but they didn’t. this has nothing to do with george and everything to do with david and dan.
The writing was certainly bad. However to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
@@GrndAdmiralThrawn Not even mentioning that George broke his promise to D&D he made before they started making the show and the premise on which the show was created. By the time the published material finished being filmed George was supposed to have published the next book and they would use that as material for the show and then he was supposed to finish the last book immediately after. He still hasn't finished the next book. George is just as much to blame as D&D.
Consider this: You put nearly a decade into this character, doing your own research, hearing all the exciting theories, your career is invested, you get killed and brought back, things are looking real exciting for the first five seasons... but then theres no pay off and you're just sorta there. Your character doesn't answer any prophecies and squawks "she's our queen" like a parrot every other scene. Suddenly, all the days and nights spent freezing between takes in the Icelandic wilderness weren't worth it. The realization that you might have been typecasted by this role can't help either. Meanwhile, Jack Gleeson got out of film acting, went back to the stage and has been laughing ever since!
Ser Jorah Mormont was my favorite character throughout the series, and I have to say, his ending was the one thing they did right. It was never going to work out between him and Dany, and only after he died (spoiler?) did we see how much she truly loved him. It was the most emotional part of the entire season, and maybe the entire show.
He didn't have to charge at the night king though. Throw something, grab a spear and a shield, hold your ground. Nope, just pulled a Leeroy Jenkins. Brave, but stupid.
His death and Theon’s were done greatly. Honestly the last 20 mins of the long night are great. The first hour is pretty shit but you win some you lose some ig
@@JamesWillmus I completely agree, I was really pissed about Theon's death when it happened because it felt so stupid of him to do in terms of everything going on but looking back, he needed to do it for him. He decided he needed to die for the Starks and this moment, although dumb, was his moment to do that. That gave him purpose and forgiveness in his own eyes.
They can't not only because of the contracts but because industry is a huge village and if you are complaining or "problematic" you wouldn't get a job.
@@alatielinara that's crazy, many actors have criticize their previous movies or shows and they still work. It's the how you do it the problem. Some of the GOT actors did mention a discontent, I remember Emilia Clarke and Rose Leslie I think (I know she wasn't for the last seasons but she was close being with Kit and all) who kinda criticize the last seasons mentioned it was rushed or kinda disorganized. They never actually said "the writers are stupid" or "the production was a mess I hate it" because yeah, you need to be respectful too, and in these shows there hundreds of people working so it's hard to take a piss on the whole thing, they were part of it too. I kinda understand them, you can't hate your child even when they become a murderer. Similarly, you can't hate your creation, it was 10 years of your life.
3:33 That little back and forth between Emilia and Kit is incredible, her face is like "Yep, they just put their fingers in our bums. They screwed the show beyond repair".
The writing was certainly, however to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
Peter Dinklage saying "you people...are in for it!" And that look on his face when he said that basically sums it all up! His cynicism went through the roof and it showed. Just like when Emilia said "best season EVAH!" Also: Isaac Hempstead-Wright had more facial expressions in these interviews than he had during the entire last 3 seasons of GoT!
well Issac, when he got the script of the last season he thought it as a joke script(often sent to avoid spoliers, this has happened in MCU movies to avoid some actors spoiling it to their close friends too) and these scripts are pretty huge when they get to the actors so yeah imagine that. Even he couldn't believe the ending of the show despite his character winning the game of thrones with Sansa.
@@A_Black_Sheep94Dude, they worked for it. Have some respect for the time and effort people put into their jobs and understand that it's completely normal for them to be disappointed when those efforts lead to something they dislike
This has the same energy as Sansa saying Joffrey was the love of her life and her father was a traitor.
This got me laughing out loud by myself lmfao
@User12702 saying it because they have to kinda energy
“My father was a traitor..my mother and brother are traitors too. I am loyal to my beloved Joffrey”
😂
You are funny....😂😂😂
0:57 peter saying that is like sansa saying ‘im loyal to my beloved joffery and i love him with all my heart’
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
@@mr.equity1120 i pity the storyline all character arcs and all the big brains big money big vfx lead to this.
@@THEPINEVLOGS IKR?! It takes big talent to eff up that spectacularly.
Please let my family go.
Noticed how he averted his eyes too lmao
When Peter Dinklage says that "there are no better writers than D&D and they nailed the ending" he sounds like a hostage reading a script while a guy is pointing a gun at him off-camera.
Seriously it does 😂😂😂😂
Peter Dinklage, after the interview, calls D&D, saying, “Okay, I said what you wanted. Now give me back my family.”
I've never seen someone want to leave a situation so badly
exactly what I thought! "read this and your life will be spared"
What about when Dinklage called the fans babies for not liking it
The best acting these actors had to do was pretending that the ending didn't sucks
Yep!
Suck.
I’d agree with you, but come on ya can see right though it 😅
I'm sorry, but did you not watch this very video?
Well... there’s a difference between acting and lying 😬
Watching Kit just take a huge breath, calculate his entire career and say "dissapointing" is just thrilling.
But, what was the question posed before the one-second clip? Could have been almost anythig.
@@judychurley6623 The question was, "If you had to describe the final season in one word, what would it be?" And Kit replied, "Disappointing".
Bcoz of this, he went to therapy. Kit was openly disappointed about it and love his character. Possibly he got expectation only to rob of it. After lamenting, he still got what he deserved. Still casted to MCU, despite saying bad comment to show. Honest man may disappoint people, but never disappoint God.
@@brianmayabella5992 First of all, don't bring ''God'' into this, it's not the right place. Secondly, I advice you against speculating why he went to therapy as we don't really know, it might have been due to several complex reasons, it's really simplistic to say ''he went to therapy because of this or that'' - it's never just one thing. Anyway, it's his private matter and not your place to speculate about, even if you think you do it out of sympathy. Respecting his privacy and not speculating about his mental health process would be more sympathethic.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 you have no power here
The fact that GRRM, the author of the books, spent decades bringing Jamie's character up, evolving him as a human and at the end to have Dumb and Dumber bring him back to the same position as where he started still baffles me
The writing was certainly bad, however to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 I agree with most things you said but I don't think George made any such promise. Sure everyone was expecting for him to release TWoW, including himself, but to promise? There are no promises in Hollywood, just contracts. Plus D&D are not children to be held by the hand, they had unlimited resources to get the best writers, to make more seasons like George wanted or if they really wanted to move on to pass the project along to someone else. Instead they decided to get the 'prestige' of writing and finishing it themselves, to rush it all so that they can move to Star Wars. It's like saying your wife left you because your boss promised you a raise and never gave you one. GRRM is not at fault
@@MagisterVeritas He sure did, it was on that condition the show was greenlit because the showrunners and HBO didn't want the exact thing that happened to happen.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 can you show us what paperwork or document outlines George's promise? Because if they're just taking George's word for it, without any documentation whatsoever, then they brought that upon themselves. You don't just start a series because the author said "trust me bro it'll be finished"
@@A_Black_Sheep94
The show was literally offered more seasons because they left out so much from the books. HBO also wanted the last two seasons to be 10 episodes, so it's really just D&D's masterfully shitty writing and time management. All they had to do was follow the books, and they half-assed that too.
"Dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet" stills cracks me up to this day. God, I hate him.
@@emilychristina3172 Simple: they had a deal to go work on Star Wars and they were incapable of writing any kind of story anyway, so they did it in 5 minutes during a coffee-break and went to grab money elsewhere.
I'll be 80 years old on my deathbed, decades from now, muttering to my great-grandchildren about "how stupid was it when David Benioff actually said 'Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet'..."
“Forgot” 😭✨
Your final sentiment made me properly lol 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, I will literally avoid watching something, if he’s the show runner! He’s not only a hack, he’s a devious hack!!
"There are no better writers on television than D&D..."
I love how Peter Dinklage says this with all the enthusiasm and sincerity of someone reading cue cards after being told "say these words and we'll give you 20 dolla".
Fr who forced him to say this lol
Hahaha yeah it plays like he has a gun to his head or, of course, like super dry sarcasm
He sounds like a hostage reading a teleprompter at gunpoint.
@@chanell3166 the small hats from the movie industry.
@@chanell3166 He is just doing his job as an actor. I disagree with him, but he chose to advertise the show instead of giving his personal opinion about it. I don't know what I would do in that situation.
I have to imagine Kit was just heart-broken reading that script. Those tears are genuine, disappointed, decade-long-effort-wasted tears. I mean, killing Dany has to hurt, but... killing the show had to hurt way more.
Well I mean that pretty much is going to happen in the books. He’s going to kill Dany. It’s just how we get there that’s going to be radically different.
but even if it happened it would be like Azor ahai and Nissa Nissa @@Nanobot1989
@@Nanobot1989 What does that have to do with the distinction he's making? "Killing the show had to hurt way more." It ended before its proper timing
After Game of Thrones ended, Kit Harington checked himself into therapy and rehab because filming the show took such a massive toll on him. I'm not trying to make jokes when I say that the ending might've played a part in it as well. It was a decade of his life, the defining role of his whole career, and Season 8 was supposed to be the payoff. At least he met, dated, and married Rose Leslie (Ygritte) and they have two kids. That alone was worth the whole thing.
@@Nanobot1989 At this point with how season 8 was received we aren't going to ever get that final book
Conleth Hill just throwing the whole script down in disgust is a big ass mood
Conan Hill? Isn't that Conleth?
I loved it when he did that
@@JustAChinesePleb you're right im an idiot
Still a mood I'm in when I think about this show.
He probably got to the part where Varys died and thought. 'No point reading any more. I'm not in the rest of it.'
0:57 The fact that an actor as talented as Peter Dinklage said this sentence the way he did, not even hiding that he's being sarcastic, is absolutely awesome
this part always got me 🤣🤣
He said the exact way Tyrion would have
The half eye roll at the end as he looks up to the interviewer is hilarious
Also imagine someone saying this when Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould exist
You people are in for it, the saying is you people are in for a treat lool if you're in for it it means you're fucked
I feel really sorry for Varyes and his actor. He worked so fucking hard to give us the most interesting character for so many seasons. And then his death felt so fucking poorly written, and rushed and sudden that it was a genuine shock because of how stupid it was.
FCKING EASY
I didn’t even remember he died until I read this comment, that’s how pointless and forgettable his death was.
Probally the wrost death in the show because Varys would of never been that careless
Varys deserved so much more, Conleth Hill was flawless. All of his deliveries, little mannerisms and body language was so convincing.
Lord Varys was my favorite character in the show, and I was so pissed at how they handled him in the last two seasons.
I feel so bad for Kit. Imagine devoting yourself to a role you’ve been doing for years, training hard mentally and physically to fulfill it to the best of your abilities, then some writers fuck up everything and all of your efforts go to waste.
At least we got 4 great seasons and 2 good seasons and 1 alright season. Let’s all just pretend season 8 never happened and imagine a good ending in our heads.
I thought Jon’s ending wasn’t that bad, at least not compared to Dany and Jaime for example. But I feel bad for Kit as an actor, he really had nothing to work with in S8 he had like two lines he repeated all over again.
"ion wont it!"
"She is mah queen!"
And all because they wanted to go work on star wars smh
@@caseymartin6337 then they got fired from that lol. Honestly there just terrible people. They could have just not written season 8 and whoever did it instead would have done it a thousand times better.
I love Nikolaj openly hating the shit out of it.
Because he had the best, most complex character who’s endured the most for the right outcome only to have his character become Cersei’s hopeless slave once again
@@brendonbuffaloe8830 And that within like the last 2 episodes. Jaime actually was the only character which seemed to outlast shitty writing, but then gets completely fucked in a blink of an eye.
@@Illusive1313 Yeah he was fine until he had a one-night stand with Ser Brienne only to break her heart by leaving. It was such an unbecoming move for him
Supposed to be Queen Slayer, ended up being a stupid, senseless lover.
@@sujitB619 Yep
You can tell D&D were so proud of themselves for the ending during that table reading. They not only had no idea people would accurately see this as garbage writing, they actually thought they had a masterpiece.
Expectations: subverted.
Just kiling time waiting for that sweet Star Wars franchise 💰...
Yeah I think its obvious that with the success of the show early on, D&D had an over inflated option of themselves. I'm sure during that table reading that it may not have seemed bad at first, but after you let it sink in and think about it, that's when you realize its hot garbage.
They knew. I can see it in their faces. They knew they didn't have the comparable creative spark. They look resigned and done.
In the early seasons it was'nt them writing, it was George that did all the work, but they received all the Credit and were suddenly the best in history (even though they tried to change or add stuff in that usually maked the show less good). Then the source material ran out and the show got worse, right? LIES, they actively choose to cut material from the book, Griff, Dorne, most of daenerys's plot, because they simply thought "look at this emmy dude, we are the frickin best! We dont need that old man and his dusty books to help us out". And when they realized they could'nt make stuff up, they simply put epic battles and fanservice moments, and aparently everyone liked it (battle of the bastards is considered one of the best, if not the best episode. Despite having dumb moments and plot armor), but you can only use this so much until people realize it.
Nikolai being like: They will need therapy because it's So Ba.... (Sees the gun pointed at him)... I don't know
You could tell he had to stop himself from saying what he really thought!....and it wasn’t good!
lol the dude that played Euron is a boss. "I'm not even going to watch the final episode."
Can't blame him, lol.
The only no bs answer. He earned lots of cool points in my book
He read about his character in the books and was disappointed with how much they changed him. Lem Lemoncloak's actor as well. He ended up recording his big speech from the books that Lem gives to Jaime when the Brotherhood Without Banners are about to pull off something at the Twins. In the show, he was an ex-member that murdered the Hound's sponsor(?), Idk what he was, that guy Ray was based on two characters.
@@tokyworld yeah but if you call out a product you helped make good luck getting many roles after that
@@tokyworld What about the sarcastic "Best season ever"?
Sansa stark : I love my beloved joffrey
Peter dinklage : They ended it perfectly
"There are no better writers in television" Lmao
Ned Stark: Joffrey is the rightful king.
Dinklage sounds dead inside ...
Yes looool
He sounds rich inside.
If only he had a ghost to revive him.
@David Powell Jesus Christ you are rabid.
They all do! They were jerked around by Dan and Dave, to a degree that none of us could understand!
People need to stop criticizing kit for crying, he spent his 20's with Jon Snow, let the man show his emotions.
@Intensive Purposes for it to be ruined by 2 fucking morons
@@jakob31448
D&D were fucking?
Well maybe not each other, but certainly the crew, cast and fans!
@@richardlloyd2589 lol!
@@richardlloyd2589 lol lol lol 😂😂😂
@@richardlloyd2589 GRRM screwed ppl over too by not ever finishing the books.
nothing will ever top Emilia on the red carpet saying "BEST SEASON EVER" with a nervous laugh stamped on her face
I’m a big fan of “psssh….disappointing”
Idk, I prefer Peter's "he's raising the dead and they put the women and children in a crypt full of dead people! I guess Tyrion is smart but he's not that smart"
5:26-5:29 This was also pretty good.
All my love to Kit, who was only given a few lines for the entirety of the last season: "I dontwant it", "shes my queen" and that's it. And screw all the people hating on him and saying he was a bad actor. He tried to do the best he could do with an awful script and this damaged him deeply, he needed therapy after this and I blame D&D for all of it. Poor guy, he deserved better, and so did Jon.
I think you mean "ah dun wan it" and "she's mah kween"
Watch him in Criminal (UK) on Netflix. He's fantastic. Really has to thread the needle, being both a douche and sympathetic.
@@janeathome6643 I did watch it recently too, and I couldn't believe how good he was. It was literally amazing.
You forgot: we need allies
Apparently he started therapy when Jon’s character became a bigger focus on the show (around the time Jon died), not after the show. He went to rehab for drinking after the show ended.
“The tried to exit the show with honor.” There was more honor at the Red Wedding.
Yes indeed lol
Oooooooohhhhhhhhh!!!
Who and when do they say that?
🤣😭
@@DhavalShukla Sir Davos worked like a brick-layer trying to say it at 1:28.
When Gwendolyn said "people will need therapy after" she wasn't kidding. It's been 3 years and I'm still not over how much time I wasted watching the first 7 seasons just to arrive at the dumpster fire that was season 8
I used to regret not watching the show when everyone else did, I didn't feel the hype at the time. I did watch it once it was finished though, and thank God I did because I don't think I'd know how to deal with 10 years of investment leading up to this absolute dumpster fire.
I’ve just barely started watching it. Got halfway to season 3 and I’ve given up. It’s pretty dull, the deus ex machina writing where by some divine stars the bad guys always win is just dog shit. I don’t mind bad guys winning, but at least make it realistic. In this, backstabbing just occurs randomly and out of the blue with no build up or barely a reason but to make the audience feel a cheap form of sympathy and hate. It got old. There’s better ways to write moments like these rather than random deception.
@@Radbiker33357The books are better but the first 3 seasons do follow the books quite well even though the story is rushed and compressed.
I don't see how you found it dull, maybe these kind of stories are just not for you. I mean random events? It's explained most of the times and it's done right, if you think it's *unrealistic* for characters to die "randomly" then you clearly don't live in the same reality the rest of us live in.
However if we're talking about seasons after the 4th one then sure things begin to make no sense not because it's unrealistic per se but because it's poorly explained or not explained at all.
@@Radbiker33357 I know what you mean. I’ve tried watching stuff like star wars and lord of rings and it’s just like “meh im gonna go watch some paint dry instead” haha
I did like the first season of GOT tho, but I hate waiting week after week for suspenseful shows so I intentionally sat out the series so I could just watch it all at my own speed when it was over - so then when the show really started falling apart in seasons 7 & 8, it wasn’t a total bummer because I hadn’t invested a whole decade into it
Well the show was alredy falling apart from season5 onwards, so by season 8 i personally knew it will be bad so i took it as comedy.
I feel bad for the Euron actor. he was so excited to get the role, but the character was written so badly.
He did his best with a shit part, poor fucking guy
My man Pilou Asbaek
Would have loved to see some actual book Euron out of him. The Forsaken sample chapter from TWOW is so fucking good.
His natural personality seems more in line with the actual badass-ness that he's supposed to have compared to what they gave him in the show.
I think he played the heck out of that role. He definitely put his all into it. Not disagreeing with you about the writing but he took that bad writing and made it work.
I know I need to read the books and plan to this summer to get a better understanding of things. Very excited.
I feel absolutely horrible for this whole cast. They spent nearly a decade of their lives on this show, and for the majority of them it literally launched their careers. The younger ones literally grew up making this show, and you can tell everyone got so close while making it and genuinely loved doing it and loved each other. So when all this hard work they’ve put in for years gets smacked across the face with some of the worst writing I’ve ever seem , I can’t imagine how insulted they felt.
Especially because people like Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, Alfie Allen, and Isaac Hempstead Wright were just too young and too unknown to have any kind of leverage, but they're boxed into this type cast from a pair of idiot writers who couldn't wait to get their hands on that Star Wars money. Fortunately D&D didn't even get that, but they really screwed the kids over.
I hope they will be able to wipe their tears with some of the dollar bills they got for suffering through this
@@Inbraneinthememsane at least that's what they got. 200k $ for every episodes. At the end it's a job and they're just the employee. Even though their boss fucked up, the money still come to their pockets.
I mean, they got paid well, got public attention, and enjoyed the experience. You might be projecting.
@@sweetembrace6706 Never happens at all. Everyone knows that Hollywood is the greatest place for actors to feel comfortable, to do their best on screen, and feel happy and secure with their roles. There’s never been a single mishap or crisis between actors and directors.
I firmly believe the execs at HBO should’ve immediately fired D&D upon reading the S8 script, hired some talented new writers, and taken the show to at least 10 seasons to tell the story properly and fully.
I don't know why the actors did Not Revolt.
Like leave the tableread Put HBO a gun on the Chest and demand competend writers.
@@edenjung9816 Because they would have been blamed for ruining or canceling the show.
@@edenjung9816 actors can't. They will become "problematic" and it could even lose career.
I read somewhere that HBO and Martin wanted the show to last longer. But it seemed to me the DnD knew they were bad writers, they were decent at getting what Martin had already written and making it into series format, but making original good dialog and material? No, that sucked. And I think they knew, so they wanted to end it asap while HBO wanted more. I think they were offered a total of 15 seasons.
@@edenjung9816 the actors wanted to move on too. It was a great show and it gave a huge opportunity to many of them to be known but it was 10 years. They really didn't have the power (they are actors, not the freaking owners of HBO) and they didn't have the energy (many wanted to start other projects or just to move on).
Emilia Clarkes facial expression and delivery of her saying “best season ever!” Says it all and is the most honest. She hid it the worst compared to everyone.
Lol she wasn't even trying to hide it
"Best season ever" 👀
@@Kakarot803 exactly lol, i think she gets a pass too seeing her character was done probably the dirtiest
For as amazing of an actress as she is, she’s not the best at lying 😂
@@shikadragon honestly doubt she was even trying
I am in love with her eyebrows, how can her face do such gymnastics!!!
The monologue in each GoT actor's head: Say good things in the press tour, keep my paycheck. Say good things in the press tour, keep my paycheck. YOU CAN DO THIS.
You know for a fact each one is gonna go full Boyega. Once their paychecks and contracts are up (which tend to continue after filming to keep good press for awhile) they are all going to tear the thing to pieces.
@@dumbdude3103 I hope to be there to see and read all about it
@@dumbdude3103 I had so much respect for Boyega after he did that ngl. He pulled a mark hamil and it was amazing.
@@dumbdude3103 I'm still waiting for more of them to come out about the ending. I think they will but they may not have the balls to do so for another year. hbo got them to trained
@@dumbdude3103 Yea it's been a hot minute, the only thing we really got is Peter Dinklage doubling down and calling the fans entitled crybabies who didn't get the happy ending they wanted.
I love how everyone lies and then actors who play Jon and Daenerys just give us the cold truth
Sophie (Sansa) and Maisie (Arya) too
Gendry's actor also said what he was thinking...." Character development? Nah..." that's what he thought about the last 2 seasons. Honestly, he's more like Gendry than Show Gendry...
"So how does Season 8 end?"
99% of cast members: "Ah hahahahahahaaaaaa....." **nervous glances**
Peter Dinklage and Liam Cunningham: **dials sarcasm up to 111%**
What you mean to say
Peter Dinklage and Liam Cunningworth being held hostage by D&D.
Maybe, because, they aren't supposed to reveal it?
@@judychurley6623 no shit Sherlock
@@toby1061 sarcasm is over 9000
When Liam Cunningham becomes Liam Cunningworth
Kit had to get actual therapy
Poor Kit. This show meant so much to him. I feel really sorry for all the actors/crew etc who put so much into the show and all they've seen since the end was how much everyone hated the last season.
D&D's fault, sure, but it must be a bitter pill to swallow for everyone else who worked so hard on the show.
@@raindrops21_9 that’s my thing with the last season the season may have sucked but I feel bad for the actors because of how they cared of the show
@@barberro3435 None of the actors have anything to be ashamed of...everything was top notch except the writing.
@@Springheel01 they aren’t ashamed but what I’m saying is they spent so many years of their life and at the end there wasn’t a good ending
@@barberro3435 I felt like in the last couple of scenes you could see them give up. The acting was overall good as always, but the “Bran is king” scene stood out because it felt like they weren’t really there.
I wanna live in the universe where season 8 was ended perfectly and it became the best show of all time
You'd have to redo seasons 6 and 7 too in that case.
@@harrydavey9884 6 and 7 were fine
@@clintonanwah3438 They weren't good and they were absolutely where the story started to truly go off the rails.
@@harrydavey9884 hey, fields of fire was fire though
@@harrydavey9884 I'd argue even as far back as season 5 the show was starting to crack. Then plot armor happened and nothing ever made sense again. Season 6&7 were mostly okay, some great scenes, some questionable ones, but not anything bad enough that it couldn't have been redeemed with an amazing season 8. There is no realistic way to please everyone, so dumb and dumber decided to subvert all of our expectations by giving us an ending everyone hated.
I'm still disappointed lol.
Had months of lockdown and I never considered rewatching once
Watch previous seasons. They are still good though. Let's pretend that s8 didn't happened.
I couldn't bring myself to watch the final episode i had to stop midway & to this day I still haven't watched it
@Come to success i imagine a scene that right after Cersie blew up the sept the people in kings landing started a revolt as there faith was shattered with there beloved and my girl Margaery. Varys used the power of public's rage and killed the lannisters. With a little help of Danaerys and her image became of a heroine. They fought the night king after Danny took the Iron Throne. In the war many of our favs died because thats what happens in war no plot armour Danny ruled happily ever after.
@@leo-db5uj She (and the others) deserved much better 💔
@@JustAChinesePleb exactly..
“It really makes you question yourself.”
Peter Dinklage while reading finale script thinking “Damn I wasted 10 years behind this shit?”
Lol
It's almost like he was getting paid
@@irokosalei5133 it is almost like you can take some personal pride in your work on top of doing it to get paid you dipshit
Yuuup
He got two emmys out of it so
I feel for Kit the most. Imagine devoting to your character for years, growing to love him, and then some dudes decide to give him the worst ending posible out of your power and there is nothing you can do, just commit to the acting and wait until it's over.
Yes I feel he was the most emotionally attached to the show, Emilia Clark was too but she's more versatile than Kit , you could clearly see Kit was still not over it when he was complaining about the crew throwing away the iron throne after everything was over during the final cast reunion.
Why was his character ending the "worst?"
@@genox3636 Not being the one to kill the Night King. Being the one who kills Daenerys. He could have had a much better ending. Just being the one to kill the Night King would have been enough but they didn't even give him that.
I feel bad for Emilia Clarke even more than Jon snow. He didn’t even want to be king plus he died and was revived so everything after that was just him playing with house money.
@@genox3636 d&d kind of forgot he was the son of lyanna and rhaegar.
As a casual fan it was so weird when, for YEARS, they were saying "Winter is coming." how the white walkers going to turn the world to ice. I thought it was going to be the entire season 8 just fighting them, king's landing covered in ice, characters conflicted fighting zombie-verison of friends, but no it was 1 episode- half in the dark- with a dues ex machia of 'kill boss, army dies'. Huge disappointment. I got 2ed hand embarrassment from Arya's slow motion knife drop like writers thought that was beyond cool.
Not to mention how she manifests out of the fucking ether. That's the only way I can think to explain how she got anywhere near the Night King when he is literally surrounded by White Walkers on every side. Also, where the hell was she jumping from, they were on a flat patch of ground. The excuse I always hear is "she was disguised as a white walker" but that never holds up to scrutiny.
Yep! It should have been an entire season. But the show runners got greedy and wanted to move on to Star Wars
@@judaihyuga actually when the white walker hair blows it’s arya going by. As he turns tho he she is already gone.
@@Hundo44 That's not an explanation. She's never been shown to move that fast or slip by that invisibly. It's just another flimsy justification for the lousy writing with nothing to back it up.
@@judaihyuga I mean she avoided a ton of white walkers in a confined space whilst exhausted. She disappears in seconds behind another bookshelf at one point when one hears her blood. Never said it as an excuse but don’t act like season 1 she wasn’t sneaking up on trained warriors lmao
*Professional actors refuse to act for 7 minutes straight*
I mean how do you act when presented with the hardest role of all time: pretend you liked the season?
@@Antlover420 that’s the point they are good actors but choose to seem bad when praising the season
Interviewer: "Tell us the truth, do you want an end to this PR farce?"
Peter Dinklage: "I am loyal to Dan & David, my one true love"
Tyrion at 1:00 "I'm loyal to King Joffrey, my one true love"
Lord Dinklage, you may survive us yet
@@dawn-blade like your name lol
Lmfaoo
Bran: “I can never be a lord”
Also Bran: “Why do you think I came all this way”
Also Bran:”I don’t really want”
Bran as soon as everyone left king's landing: kneel!!! kneel !!! Ya bastards and get the breastplate stretcher :p
💀
@@luisn642 Lord is not king. Bran will be king in the books too probably. GRRM has hinted that the books end the same way, just the path there is different.
@@MrBrock314 well... grrm better come up with something new.
Gwendoline: "I think it will be... very memorable for everybody"
That was a very clever
6:33 you know what I find funny af about Varus looking so done?? In an interview, Emilia Clarke said that Varus admitted he was the one who left his starbucks in the scene.
He was pissed!
IT'S VARYS FOR THE SEVEN HELLS
AND THE ACTOR IS CALLED CONLETH HILL
@@david4rancibia34 no the actor is named varus, the character is varys
@@ololusername No. He’s Conleth Hill.
He agreed to take the heat anyway.
Compare this with the Breaking Bad actors talking about the end of that show. The difference is palpable.
The Last 3 episodes of each show can't possibility be more different
@@captaindeadpool313 Fr it was so rushed should’ve been 10 episodes of season 7 and 8 so at least dany going mad had more build up than a split second
@@jakematthews257 George RR Martin thought it should have had 13 seasons to tell the full story properly. As far as I know, HBO was all for extending the series. I mean why not? It was the most popular show in the world. But Dumb and Dumber had a golden goose, but decided to rush the end so they could do some stupid Star Wars thing and then they ended up backing out of that and are now they’re working with Netflix. What’s interesting is that they’ve made basically nothing for Netflix. I think all they’ve made is a Leslie Jones comedy special. It doesn’t matter to me anyway. I refuse to watch anything they’re involved in.
@@Whoopdido777 HBO actually wanted 10 seasons with 10 episodes of each season but dumb and dumber decided to end it on season 8 :(
@@ashwinsharma8842 I definitely think that 10 seasons would’ve been perfect more stuff in 7 to lead to 8 which could’ve been a more fleshed out battle against the night king and more struggle season 9 could’ve then been defeating Cersei season 10 could’ve been danys fall to madness
6:30 Hill putting his script down refusing to read that shit is probably the most Varys thing
Who else is still not over this shitshow?
Me 😭
I don’t think I’ll ever be
I literally just watched it for the first time this year on hbo .... wanted to see the coffee cup, wanted to see Jason momoa , wanted to see what everyone was talking about ... I nearly broke the tv at the end 🥺
Just watched it for the first time a couple weeks ago. The whole first 4 seasons were nothing short of a master class of a show - I’d never seen anything like it on TV. God, what a fucking disappointment it turned into after that. 😔
The reason we're not over it was cause the first four seasons were so damn good, and then they completely ruined them to the point where many fans won't even rewatch the first four, especially considering the first scene is setting something up that has basically no payoff
Peter Dinklage is a god walking amongst mortals and Emilia Clarke is undoubtedly a goddess.
Simp
@@dramaaddict7086 No no it’s ok for superstars. Emilia Clark is not mediocre pussy.
ID take carice van houten as my godess anytime.
some people will like it amd others wont. who are the retards that liked season 8??? i havent met them yet.
@@dramaaddict7086 oh my fucking god how dare they think well of a women that’s definitely illegal
Everytime i see that video of kit crying, i always feel so bad for him. Such a bad ending for such an amazing character and even more amazing actor
Don't feel bad for a famous attractive millionaire who lives better than 99.9% of people who have ever lived.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 what's wrong with you?
@@fushikun8514 Too cool, rich, successful, and enviable.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 like literally what's wrong with you? 💀
@@A_Black_Sheep94 shut up dicknose
I feel so bad for the whole cast who put their hearts and souls into these characters but I feel bad for Emilia especially. She's so sweet and she really loved the character of Daenerys only to see her get butchered.
Also, they lied to her about what Danerys did. She thought Danerys activated accidentally a chain reaction of wildfire, when she was burning the Red keep, that ended up destroying kingslanding and killing everyone. That's what said the original season 8 script. That's what she recorded. Only when it came out did she discover what Danerys actually did. And she was in a public screening with like 40 ppl. They did her so dirty, Dany and Emilia.
@@angelagarcia7093 Thing is, that would be a better reason for Kings Landing burning than her just staring at the Red Keep
@@loganburnette5485 and that's the thing right, its better because it would be believable. Problem is that's also forgivable in a sense, accidentally setting off wildfire doesn't make her evil enough or "mad" enough. Imagine if they had Jon kill dany for accidentally destroying a city.
Ikr, I’m sure she was so upset. I believe she truly got so much strength from her character after she got her brain aneurysm after season 1 to fight for her life. It must be heartbreaking to see that character being butchered by 2 incompetent idiots.
@@SkylineLynar The only way this works is if, after destroying the city accidentally, she sees the survivors being more docile towards her. She makes it known that she realizes the only way for her to rule effectively, people should fear her.
3:22 The knowing glance Sophie throws Kit when he puts his hands up. She knew he'd hate it
@Jesus Christ Denton Fr 😭 deserved much better
Oh yeah she had to see his face... her and Rory
She almost looks like she has a smerk to me
@@emd1494 It was a knowing smile, you know the same way Lena portrayed when she comforted conleth?
@@Daughter-of-Palestine A smirk is not a comfort smile. I call it how I see it and I see a smirk.. I don't see sympathy or comfort in her eyes.. I see "haha Kitt my good friend Masie gets to do it".
I’ve been rewatching the GoT series and I’m in the eighth season now. Was thinking I was originally too harsh, but I honestly don’t think I was harsh enough. They took the opportunity to make a once in a generation show and literally flushed it down the toilet. So freaking dumb.
I KNOW RIGHT
If you leave it at the end of season 6 with the Dragon lady heading to Westeros its not that bad.
Cliff hanger endings arent good but its infinitely better than the last 2 seasons, which were somehow so bad they retroactively made the previous seasons worse.
Ive never seen a show that completely destroys its rewatch value with the last season before.
It was somehow worse than LOST.
Shout out to the writers for wasting Emilia Clarke’s time. The entire show was spent leading up to her taking the Iron Throne and then they all of a sudden kill her dragons and then just say she went crazy out of nowhere and had to die. Absolutely disgraceful.
Wasting her time lmao. She's a millionaire now.
I don’t think it’s entirely out of nowhere. Daenerys is a sexy inbred albino dragon lord from an entire dynasty of sexy inbred albino dragon lords.
I completely disagree with “out of nowhere”. You could see her downfall starting to form for a decent while.
@@ClipsThatTakeUpStorageOnMyXbox You can't tell Dany fans that they think she's hot and therefore can do no wrong.
@@ClipsThatTakeUpStorageOnMyXbox no you literally can't
1:00 This is a hostage video. He even looks offscreen to make sure he's saying it right, so there won't be, you know, consequences.
well yeah , thats what you get when you're working for a media company and you dont wanna get sued for voicing ur opinion. Welcome to the free world!
It’s like Sansa in kings landing lol
Jorah's response was hilarious. He only said good things but his reaction said it all.
6:32 Conlith’s reaction was 99.99% of the audience watching Varys get killed off that way… horrible lazy writing.
I loved him so much and to see him get snitched on and ditched on was so dumb.
@@almightyegg8667 I agree 100%
Yes they turned him and Tyrion into bumbling idiots. Absolute shit writing all around.
@@derekmulling745 Them and little finger.
Who woud of guesed that 2 idiots will turn the 3 smartest guys in GoT into 3 idiots.
The way he died was so fucking senseless.
Imagine reading the books and thinking 'oh wow I'm cast to play this super sinister eldritch-magic using pirate lord'. Oh wait, I'm actually cast as "a finger in the bum".
I know, right? In the books Euron Greyjoy was bloody terrifying... in Game of Thrones he was like Drunk Pirate Rufus Hound at the end of a stag night.
Actually he was originally like that and the actor was the one who wanted him to be played how he is in the show and rewrote the script showed it to d and d and they agreed
@@writerinprogressholy fuck. The Rufus Hound comparison is so spot on!
It was so easy to just finish this show the way fans had especulated for it to be. No plot twists, no subverting the expectations. Just finish the story with greatness, epicity and respect for the source material.
Sad how i have no desire to re watch this show because of that damn season
Yeah.. The first seasons are so beatiful and yet i just cant get myself to watch them anymore. I used to watch them like once a year and i loved it.
7 was a dumpster fire too in comparison to the first 4 seasons
@Zdnsr dsp 5 and 6 had good moments but 7 and 8 took in unbelievable dip in quality. the writing was just atrocious.
It was just a fanfic that accidentally got published as the cannon season, no need to feel down!
Just pretend the show got canceled after season 3 and continued only through the books
You really do have to wonder what Nikolai was thinking when he first had to read the "I never really cared much for them" line. You devote yourself to a character for all these years, you probably know them inside and out, you deliver this incredible monologue with them talking about how they care about those innocents and then... that shitty line.
All those years of him breaking down his snarky and rude behaviour to reveal the true empathy he had inside him… and then THAT
@@coraalllllll D&D will never know peace
Best character arc I’ve ever seen and then one line destroys all of it.
It's just a real shame that the actors didn't band together and tell the writers "no, we're not doing this, sorry. Write another version that doesn't assassinate the characters and their relationships which we've been working for 10 years to build."
Bro imagine, because I don't think anyone in that room was happy about this ending. I can't imagine that nobody spoke up.
Would’ve been infinitely better if those actors just wrote it themselves, they clearly cared way more about the characters. Or it would’ve been better if they just canceled the show after season 6 or 7.
they are bound to a contract
@@MrsLPAmy Ser Barristan's actor spoke up and they immediately offed his character in the least memorable way possible.
@@thebighoney9034 Yeah, I saw those interviews. It's honestly even more disappointing. Because his character died for no reason in the dumbest way.
I feel so bad for these actors. Most have been playing their characters for like a decade and have been so devoted in their characters and seeing how shitty the ending is just broke them.
To be honest, i would have quit at that tableread. Or seeing the Script for the 8th Season.
Not with me.
Then again, they wanted to act and maybe save it. So i dunno.
Nope they're famous millionaires who got over it long ago. You care far far more than them.
@@edenjung9816 Anyone who had quit would have been blamed for help ruin the show.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 yes of course, because you know them on a personal level, and money is the antidote to all sadness. I applaud your wisdom.
@@jsw973 I am them
"I didn't cry as much as Kit". Well his character was literally ruined, as was everyone elses apart from yours because Sansa is just so smart.
How do I use it? :(
Stick em with the pointy end :)
It’s a fucking knife
Yeah she’s just so smart y know she likes the smartest person I know! For some reason
Sansa and cersei both were smart the problem was that they were not as smart as they thought
Sansa got turned into a bitch. Her only redeeming quality was that she cared for Theon
@@cornchipuniverse6575 based on that comment I can assume you’re a man. Because she didn’t become a bitch, she became strong. And I know that your gender can’t tell the difference.
"There are no better writers". Man, Peter said that like someone had a gun to his head.
3:24
Kit: *double facepalm into disbelief*
Emilia: *yup, it's that bad!*
Kit: *I'm so sorry*
Emilia: *I want to crawl under this desk and die right now*
Kit: *I spent a decade... working towards... this?*
I would have quit on the Spot.
"Fuck this Shit, i am Out.
Getting wasted."
I mean, that part makes total sense, Daenerys was always kinda crazy, it was obvious she would become a mad queen. And Jon was very honorable but also kinda hot headed so yeah, it's not hard to believe all that to happen.
The problem was how we got there, with season 7 and 8 being a mess. People who hate the ending "because Daenerys wouldn't kill children" or "I didn't want XX or YY character to die" are kinda clueless really.
@@AlejandroLZuvic it wasn’t obvious. It may have been leading down that path after a few more seasons, but it was not “obvious” she would just decide to Willy nilly genocide women and children even AFTER she had already won the battle & they surrendered.
We see even up to S7 that she still put her life on the line for others. & that she still cared about life because she didn’t “want to be queen of the ashes”
Then in a few episodes she does exactly that because her advisor & best friend died & that caused “madness”. What a lazy, trite plot device.
I read somewhere that the original ending was she would accidentally set off the Wild fire in the city & that would kill almost everyone which would make more sense, at least for her character. Accidentally killing everyone after you “won” the battle would be way more bittersweet.
Of course, then they couldn’t justify Jon killing Dany to get the shock value they were going for.
@@AlejandroLZuvic Whatever you need to tell yourself bud.
@@Allaiya. yeah, I agree with you. The passage from "girl who is fair but also kind of fanatical and will justify the means for the end" to "oy my God she's burning children alive" was unexistent, it needed more work through season 6 and 7. We totally agree on that, and it's a heavy problem I have with the last seasons.
But some people literally say "she would never do that, she never did something wrong she would never..." c'mon, if you have watched more than three movies you could see "mad queen" telegraphed from season 2 or 3.
Fleshig out that passage is where they failed miserably, not the actual ending.
EDIT: I honestly have never read about that wild fire theory. Yeah that would also made sense too! It's really hard to make a lovable character into a hatred character without telegraphing their evilness so an accident in a moment of rage would make lots of sense.
To me this show ended when Jon & Sansa stood on that balcony and said "Winter is here".. Season 6 eposode 10. That's my finale
I currently rewatch it. That is probably a good point to stop
I'll agree with ya on that one. Season 6 may have had flaws, but it was still really strong and mostly well-written
Season 1-4: perfect
Season 5-6: some big flaws, some really big ups, still very good in general
Season 7-8: garbage
Stannis in S5 ruin it for me. I couldn't believe it.
Only reason to watch season 8 is for that nice sounstrack tbh
it’s been 3 years and I still can’t get over ‘best season ever.’ I think in a decade I will still be laughing over it. god, poor woman.
The fact that Emilia Clarke literally almost died for this damn show only to get screwed over in the final season is hateful.
The fact that Kit Harington put his very soul into Jon Snow only for his moment of glory to be given to another character and forcing him to go to therapy to deal with how truly heartbroken and let down he was is hateful.
The fact that Maisie Williams' performance as Arya was so poignant and powerful that she didn't need to beat the Night King in order to be considered heroic and now she has to deal with the fact that the fans hate that her character stole Jon's endgame is hateful.
The fact that Sophie Turner can't enjoy her own character's ending because she sees the injustice everyone else got dealt in contrast is hateful.
The fact that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Gwendoline Christie worked so hard to bring a beautiful slow-burn love story that they both fell in love with to life only to have it ripped away for a cheap ending for Jaime and Cersei is hateful.
The fact that Lena Heady was robbed of a theatrical and performative death scene for Cersei that would have won her all of the awards after a decade of crafting the perfect antagonist character is hateful.
Season 8 as a whole and the heathen failures who betrayed their whole fandom for a cash grab are, in fact, H A T E F U L.
Thank you for coming to my fucking TED Talk.
Amen good sir.
Wait what how did emila almost died for this show ?
Lena Heady was very sad a delete scene did not make it to the final cul : her losing her baby
@@flex.6613 in the firts seasons she had to go through surgeries and stuff i cant remember well but she was truely ill
@@flex.6613 she got a brain thingy, forgot what it was called, while recording the show. Which nearly killed her.
Conleth Hill actually tossing the packet to the side and leaning back speaks volumes.
Emilia was the most sincere you can hear in her sentence "best season ever!" since she didnt hide her true emotions about the whole thing
They all tried to be as diplomatic as possible, but Sophie and Emilia were the most honest on camera. They didn’t really seem to worry about hiding their hate for it.
Kit too actually.
Peter Dinklage didn’t exactly hide it either
@@jonathantheslow You’re right. I’d say he was more professional about it than, say Emilia was, but it was obvious that he hated it and talked about it on camera.
In later interviews, Conleth Hill (Varys) made it pretty clear that how he felt about it as well. They completely destroyed his character. I think he used the term “weatherman”. During the last two seasons he would just pop in and give updates.
1:48 Everybody seems to forget about that part. Is it Joe Dempsie? I can't really tell with that lightning.
nikolai- "you will need therapy...because it's so...."
Peter: Great, amazing, couldn't have ended better.
0:57 Peter sounds like Sansa from Season 2 here.
”I am loyal to Dan and David. I love them with all my heart.”
It's honestly incredible how Dave and Dan managed to destroy nearly every character in the show. I didn't think such a thing was possible. It had to be done on purpose. It's not as if D&D didn't know how to write- there are some fantastic scenes in the first few seasons that were wholly their invention and were very well written. Seasons 5 and 6 had lazy writing, but 7 and 8 almost seem like they were actively sabotaged by D&D. The awfulness was another level entirely.
Nearly?
That's because up to season 4 they had the books to copy from after they caught up to the books in season 5 their incompetence as writers became clear.
@@derekmulling745 they didn't caught up shit, they left 90% of book 4 and 60% of book 5 out when put the rest in s5. Also cut the epilouge of book 3 with lady stonehearth. Thet could easily made 6 seasons completely based of the books, or at least in big proportions
@@derekmulling745 The writing was certainly bad but I wouldn't say it's the worst I've ever seen. However to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
@@dorianpompa8409 That's because HBO and D&D wanted as little magic as possible because they wanted to cater to everyone not just fantasy fans.
You cut this together very well with just the best bits & no filler. It felt relentless.
Well done. 👍👏
James McCarthy thank you! This is for all the disappointed GOT fans out there
The only headcanon that matters to me now is one where Gwendoline Christie hosts a group therapy session with the cast of this show and the cast of the Star Wars sequels and everyone just has a good time.
Poor Kit Harrington and Emile Clark are the ones that really 100% knew that disaster that was coming.
Seriously the bromance between Nikolaj and Gwendoline is always fun to watch
I think Gwendo is a girl
@@Whiteboykun yeah?? She is (??)
@@Whiteboykun girls can be bros too
@@Whiteboykun woman*
I think most people would just call that a friendship.
These answers had some real "Blink In Morris Code if your Family is being Threatened" energy.
3:22 You can *see* the moment Kit's soul just breaks. I feel so bad for him.
Right? Poor man(not so poor, he got his paycheck), but come on. He was the best. He had put effort throughout years, he basically brought Jon Snow from the books to life by portraying his nobility and honesty in such impeccable performance, only to say ma queen and i don wunt it in the season and to be fucked by 2 greedy guys.
Yea I feel so bad for the famous millionaire who lives a better life than I ever will. Get a grip.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 it always hurts to see something you love and have worked hard to create get ruined by someone else. I'm sorry you don't know the feeling because you've never been part of a worth-while project.
@@vampire_juicebox You care more than them. Get a grip.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 seethe. you're the one who cares so much you felt the need to reply to a comment posted 9 months ago.
"they've fired kitchen sinks out of a howitzer" I guess Davos is my favorite character in real life too
If you don’t appreciate that phrase something is wrong with you 😆
In reality as in fiction.
Peter Dinklage: "It makes you question everything"
Me after watching s8e1: Why are we still here? Just to suffer!
Harington cried because he spent a third of his life on the show, met his wife there, and can't look back at it all as fondly as he would like because the ending.
He and Mr. Cunningham, the Onion Knight, were very open and honest about it all and I respect that.
Boo hoo he's a famous millionaire
@@A_Black_Sheep94 relax dude, he never said he had PTSD or that he was miserable because of the ending. He just put it like "it was a great time in my life and I didn't quite like how those 10 years ended", that's it.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 and you're just a lonely RUclips commenter, your point?
@@A_Black_Sheep94 you could be a famous millionaire too but you never applied yourself. Lol envy 😂
@@meep1809 That's right I'm a billionaire with a big cock.
4:24 I died with Maisie's face LMAOOOOOO 'we're serious tho'
Utterly hurts me inside what they did to this show I'm actually holding back tears watching this because of how disrespected and shunned I feel.
Joe, Kit, Conleth, Nic and Emilia were so brilliant in theire interview. Kit's "disappointing" statement was jsut pure gold, as was Nic "The end is gonna suck" and especially Joe with his "Character Development? naaaaah". :D
3:22 Kit and Emilia expressions on the read out of the final scene. They knew it would be a disaster.
I mean, their characters were the most liked, along with Cersei and Tyrion, and all got fucked over lol
People keep saying that. I think they were just really surprised
@@varsa507 At 3:38, Emilia's eyebrows are curved downwards. That's a frown, not a look of surprise. :D
@@varsa507 Kit said he didn't read any scripts until the table read, so that's him actually finding out he kills Dany
He’s so stressed lmao
Dinklage over there like, “Don’t burn bridges, don’t burn bridges…IT WAS BRILLIANT.”
i’ll never forgive dumb and dumber for ruining what could’ve been the best show of all time. i can’t even go back and watch my favorite scenes without seizing up in either anger or crippling disappointment. so so sad.
Honest to god, I don’t think it was their fault. I believe this was G.R.R. Martin’s ending from the beginning, and he was using the show to field test it. That’s why the next book has been on pause for sooo long. Because he wanted to see people’s reactions to the show first.
@@GrndAdmiralThrawnyou’ve clearly misunderstood people’s criticisms. i’m not talking about the endings for the characters, i’m talking about the way they got there. hbo was willing to pay for 10 seasons with 10 episodes each just like before but d&d decided they’d grown bored with the project. they chose to wrap up the story in 13 episodes, throwing important plot lines and plain old logic straight out of the window. they could’ve given control over to people who would’ve handled the material correctly but they didn’t. this has nothing to do with george and everything to do with david and dan.
@@chance757 true
The writing was certainly bad. However to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
@@GrndAdmiralThrawn Not even mentioning that George broke his promise to D&D he made before they started making the show and the premise on which the show was created. By the time the published material finished being filmed George was supposed to have published the next book and they would use that as material for the show and then he was supposed to finish the last book immediately after. He still hasn't finished the next book. George is just as much to blame as D&D.
5:12
Interviewer: Why do we need therapy when the show ends?
Probably for anger management? I dunno.
Consider this: You put nearly a decade into this character, doing your own research, hearing all the exciting theories, your career is invested, you get killed and brought back, things are looking real exciting for the first five seasons... but then theres no pay off and you're just sorta there. Your character doesn't answer any prophecies and squawks "she's our queen" like a parrot every other scene. Suddenly, all the days and nights spent freezing between takes in the Icelandic wilderness weren't worth it. The realization that you might have been typecasted by this role can't help either.
Meanwhile, Jack Gleeson got out of film acting, went back to the stage and has been laughing ever since!
@@silverblade357 So... Therapy for RAGE management then, cause it goes beyond anger at this point
@@silverblade357 my guy probably have nightmares about season 8 of GOT from time to time and wake up sweating. Feel bad tho ngl.
i love how peter dinklage sounds like when sansa was saying how much she loved joffrey
Ser Jorah Mormont was my favorite character throughout the series, and I have to say, his ending was the one thing they did right. It was never going to work out between him and Dany, and only after he died (spoiler?) did we see how much she truly loved him. It was the most emotional part of the entire season, and maybe the entire show.
Credit where credit is due, D&D didn’t completely screw up that one.
I also really liked Theon’s ending.
He didn't have to charge at the night king though. Throw something, grab a spear and a shield, hold your ground. Nope, just pulled a Leeroy Jenkins. Brave, but stupid.
His death and Theon’s were done greatly. Honestly the last 20 mins of the long night are great. The first hour is pretty shit but you win some you lose some ig
@@JamesWillmus I completely agree, I was really pissed about Theon's death when it happened because it felt so stupid of him to do in terms of everything going on but looking back, he needed to do it for him. He decided he needed to die for the Starks and this moment, although dumb, was his moment to do that. That gave him purpose and forgiveness in his own eyes.
How long untill their marketing contracts end so they can say what they really think? I can't wait for that moment.
I waiting to pay actual money for the memoirs
They can't not only because of the contracts but because industry is a huge village and if you are complaining or "problematic" you wouldn't get a job.
@@alatielinara а жаль
@@alatielinara that's crazy, many actors have criticize their previous movies or shows and they still work. It's the how you do it the problem.
Some of the GOT actors did mention a discontent, I remember Emilia Clarke and Rose Leslie I think (I know she wasn't for the last seasons but she was close being with Kit and all) who kinda criticize the last seasons mentioned it was rushed or kinda disorganized. They never actually said "the writers are stupid" or "the production was a mess I hate it" because yeah, you need to be respectful too, and in these shows there hundreds of people working so it's hard to take a piss on the whole thing, they were part of it too.
I kinda understand them, you can't hate your child even when they become a murderer. Similarly, you can't hate your creation, it was 10 years of your life.
3:33 That little back and forth between Emilia and Kit is incredible, her face is like "Yep, they just put their fingers in our bums. They screwed the show beyond repair".
They all deserve Emmys for their performances in those interviews!
i just love when d&d blame plot
holes & mistakes on the characters..
*YOU wrote that!*
OMG yes lol. "Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet" . . like no, asshole, YOU forgot about the Iron Fleet
The writing was certainly, however to be fair had George R.R. Martin fulfilled his promise he made to the showrunners before they ever started filming the last few seasons never would have been so bad. George promised them that by the time they finished filming all the content that was published in the books so far that he would have published the next book, that still hasn't come out (the last one came out the year the show launched) and they would have more content to do the next few seasons and then by that point he would have published the final book in the series. George 1. DOESN'T CARE about the series anymore as he has made his millions and moved on and 2. He created such a complex series with so many plot lines and characters he doesn't know how to start back up writing and get back into the groove. Both D&D and George are equally at fault for the abysmal ending of the series you cannot put the blame on D&D alone, George blatantly disregarded the promise he made them.
3:26 the way Sophie just smiled when kit was about to cry 😭
Peter Dinklage got his most difficult scene to act out here
He deserved the award this scene
@@shivasurya7008 idk... that scene were they had him move some chairs was a pretty fantastic way to display his acting skills
Peter Dinklage saying "you people...are in for it!" And that look on his face when he said that basically sums it all up! His cynicism went through the roof and it showed. Just like when Emilia said "best season EVAH!"
Also: Isaac Hempstead-Wright had more facial expressions in these interviews than he had during the entire last 3 seasons of GoT!
well Issac, when he got the script of the last season he thought it as a joke script(often sent to avoid spoliers, this has happened in MCU movies to avoid some actors spoiling it to their close friends too) and these scripts are pretty huge when they get to the actors so yeah imagine that. Even he couldn't believe the ending of the show despite his character winning the game of thrones with Sansa.
@@PhoebeGupta I think most of the actors couldn’t believe this was the actual script..
@@YvieT81 I know I am just sharing whatever Issac Hampstead-Wright's side of behind the scenes stuff about s8 of GOT.
That "BEST SEASON EVA" will forever live in my head
Can you imagine being these actors who have emotionally invested in the show for all these years only to have it collapse beneath your feet.
Can you imagine how rich they are and their standard or living?
@Ks Nah
@@A_Black_Sheep94Dude, they worked for it. Have some respect for the time and effort people put into their jobs and understand that it's completely normal for them to be disappointed when those efforts lead to something they dislike