If you switch the direction of the fan to make it blow outwards outside of the machine you'll probably notice a huge temperature difference. I have one of the newer models of this same machine and mine blows out words from the factory and I don't think I've ever seen mango above 65 Celsius even when I was running it really hard 😊 while it was very hot out about 28° ambient
Really boils down to your climate. I run an AW32 cause it will get colder here less thick. warmer temps for the most part run AW46 thicker more lubrication. Both are fine just something to consider. Glad we could help!!
Hey! We use this for landscaping! Today we had replaced the oil using your video, went to turn it on and it was smoking white out of the exhaust. Any tips?
How long did the smoke last??? I had topped my oil off because i had under filled it. Mine did it for a couple minutes. You could be just burning of extra oil in the line. Let me know if that helps.
It’s definitely too much oil! Thank you! We are currently going to try and find the drain tomorrow. We have a slightly different red version. The drain plug on the side is missing on ours, we have to go the hose route
Hey J Bro. Great videos. I bent my center arm too. Now i have no power in my right side track. The hydralic motor looks like its engaging and i can get a little power. Any ideas?
@fewxjacob Sounds like a bad drive motor on that side but I'd hate to jump to conclusions. I know I was looking into where to get those, as I was doing pre-recon. I'll double check.
No coolants. I have contemplated upgrading to the fan that's in Tim's video on the community page. I'm starting to get cooler temps, I'm probably not going to bother atm. If i get bored this winter I may swap it out so I'm gtg for next spring.
@TheJBros520 thanks for the reply. It seems to be an issue with all the china models. I couldn't find if the triple pump helped or was just for aux flow but now I know. Thanks for helping everyone with their questions
I think the hydraulics would need re routed. One pump controls left drive and boom lift, the other pump controls right drive and bucket curl, and the third is both aux hyd functions. If someone were to swap it to where one pump is doing left drive, one doing right drive, and the third pump doing boom and curl and aux. I think you could then be able to do all three at the same time. I have this same machine and have considered doing this and swapping controls to pilot controls and a different valve because I hate that you can't drive and operate the boom at the same time.
@masoncoffman4090 I was disappointed in the controls vs others but this machine has a lot more benefits. A pilot control swap would be interesting, and I think would make this machine rival to a name brand. It will be interesting if the manufacturer will improve their product to compete
it says 75.6L/m what that means idk. Runs my auger slower than expected. 4/1 works great. I'm looking into Trencher, brush broom and a few other attachments to try
Each pump on a 3 pump mini is 4 gpm, not enough flow to do anything but run a auger really slow. Each pump on a 2 pump mini is 6.3 gpm, making them faster in every way than a 3 pump mini. Only way you will run a grinder is to upgrade to a 15 gpm, 3000 psi single pump and run a flow divider like Bob Payne did. That way all the flow, or any amount of the flow can be sent where it's needed. For stump grinding we would set the lever to 95% to the grinder and 5% to the tracks so we can still move slowly. Trouble with the three pump idea is the front attachment is always lacking flow and the tracks are too fast. Then doing loader work the tracks are 30% slower than the two pump.
Hey J Bros great video! I was wondering if there’s a way I’m able to contact you through DM or social media? I have some tips and tricks I’d like to share with you that would help with your content! You didn’t go over any of the exterior hoses and I can show you some smart fixes on some things I have done to free things up on this machine. I also found a super fast and simple way to add springs to the stand plate to make the ride way smoother and more comfortable. I searched high and low on how to message you personally on RUclips and there isn’t a way. Are you able to share an email address with me or something so I can send you pictures?
@@TheJBros520 do you have an email address I could contact you by? Most RUclips channels supply a contact email in the “about” info on the channel profile.
Complete waste of time adding the 3 stack pump due to low flow so bad it will not run anything but a auger really slow. You would also sow down your tracks and loader 30 % by adding the third pump. In a 2 pump mini each pump is 6.3 gpm. The 3 pump mini is only 4 gpm each pump making them crazy slow. Best is the large 15 gpm, 3000 psi single pump with flow divider.
i dont understand why the chinese engineers have it done this way, why not just have one larger pump? my kanga has larger single attached to a gx690 and it never slows or stalls
I agree. This stacking 4 gpm pumps is silly and really slow. Best is a single 15 gpm, 3000 psi pump running into a flow divider. Bob Payne did one to a LRT 23
This video should be taken down. Now I see why so many people thought they should buy a "3 stack pump". Unfortunately the 3 pump mini skids are the LEAST USEFUL of all the mini skids and here is why. Flow. A 23 hp mini skid with three pumps only puts out 4 gpm each pump. 4 gpm will not run anything but a small auger, really really slowly. To make things worse, the three stack pump is causing this unit to move the tracks and loader 30% slower than a more common 2 stack pump. Also, because 30% of the flow is not useful when doing loader work, you never load the engine when pushing. 23 hp, 2 stack pump mini skids give 6.4 gpm making them faster tracking and moving the loader. In order to use the 3 pump system, we would need to upgrade that engine to a 40 hp brigs vanguard, running a 5x5x10 pump. Each of the 5 gpm pumps would run one side tracks and loader and the third 10 gpm would run front attachments. This upgrade would also need a larger 25 gal hydraulic tank, and twin coolers. Best and most useful of all systems is one large pump with flow divider like Bob Payne did on his LRT 23. 15 gpm single pump with the ability to run any combination of flow to tracks or high flow front attachment. This is best for a few reasons but the most useful is the ability to slow the tracks to a crawl while giving all the rest of the flow to the front attachment like a trencher or snow blower. The track drives in these AGT 400 size mini skids can take 20 gpm EACH. You going from 4 gpm to 7.5 would be nearly twice the travel speed.
I forgot to add my fan blows into the machine. Check the fan video by Tim in the community page.
If you switch the direction of the fan to make it blow outwards outside of the machine you'll probably notice a huge temperature difference. I have one of the newer models of this same machine and mine blows out words from the factory and I don't think I've ever seen mango above 65 Celsius even when I was running it really hard 😊 while it was very hot out about 28° ambient
@@kylequinn1963 Thanks for the info!!
Ty
@@eddluireg Welcome!!
What is the Hydraulic hose size for the in/out ports at the control valve?
@@darrensimpson9662 I'm putting out a new video for you. Hope it helps!!
I heard techincly there 3 individual pumps not 3 stage.
Interesting, kind of makes sense.
And sadly the three pump mini's are the least useful because of lack of flow. A 2 pump mini skid will operate 30% faster.
Videos are really helpful. Thx for all the info. I'm going to flush the hydraulic fluid out and put new in. What kind of fluid do you put in?
Really boils down to your climate. I run an AW32 cause it will get colder here less thick. warmer temps for the most part run AW46 thicker more lubrication. Both are fine just something to consider. Glad we could help!!
looking to buy one. like your vidios if you put a hose on that vent tube and run it as high as you can you may avoid the mess on top of your tank
@delinaspry265 Oh, That makes sense, thanks I'll try that!
Hey! We use this for landscaping! Today we had replaced the oil using your video, went to turn it on and it was smoking white out of the exhaust. Any tips?
How long did the smoke last??? I had topped my oil off because i had under filled it. Mine did it for a couple minutes. You could be just burning of extra oil in the line. Let me know if that helps.
It’s definitely too much oil! Thank you! We are currently going to try and find the drain tomorrow. We have a slightly different red version. The drain plug on the side is missing on ours, we have to go the hose route
Hey J Bro. Great videos. I bent my center arm too. Now i have no power in my right side track. The hydralic motor looks like its engaging and i can get a little power. Any ideas?
@fewxjacob Starts fine? Lifting is fine? Just right sprockets won't engage?
Pretty much. Low to no power.
@fewxjacob Sounds like a bad drive motor on that side but I'd hate to jump to conclusions. I know I was looking into where to get those, as I was doing pre-recon. I'll double check.
If someone were to create an owners manual for these and charge $20 they could make a killing.
Do you recommend upgrading the fan? Also, is there a radiator or coolant fluid that needs to be topped off in this machine?
No coolants. I have contemplated upgrading to the fan that's in Tim's video on the community page. I'm starting to get cooler temps, I'm probably not going to bother atm. If i get bored this winter I may swap it out so I'm gtg for next spring.
When you need to replace them do you have a source for new tracks lined up ?
Trackloaderparts.com Duroforce Rubber 180x72x41 track size should run about $132/each track. Great track for the price, imo.
@@TheJBros520 Are these tracks thicker than the ones that come on the machine?
@jaboy123 Yes, 1 inch and 1/8 on my old tracks. New 1 inch and half. Plus the rubber is just better.
Thanks
Can this machine drive, boom and curl at the same time with the triple pump set up?
No.... Drive or boom and curl.
@TheJBros520 thanks for the reply. It seems to be an issue with all the china models. I couldn't find if the triple pump helped or was just for aux flow but now I know. Thanks for helping everyone with their questions
@@user-lf1ny4rp1i No problem at all!
I think the hydraulics would need re routed. One pump controls left drive and boom lift, the other pump controls right drive and bucket curl, and the third is both aux hyd functions. If someone were to swap it to where one pump is doing left drive, one doing right drive, and the third pump doing boom and curl and aux. I think you could then be able to do all three at the same time. I have this same machine and have considered doing this and swapping controls to pilot controls and a different valve because I hate that you can't drive and operate the boom at the same time.
@masoncoffman4090 I was disappointed in the controls vs others but this machine has a lot more benefits. A pilot control swap would be interesting, and I think would make this machine rival to a name brand. It will be interesting if the manufacturer will improve their product to compete
What's the gpm on the aux side?? I'm trying to upgrade my pump on my Chinese skid steer so that I can run a stump grinder
it says 75.6L/m what that means idk. Runs my auger slower than expected. 4/1 works great. I'm looking into Trencher, brush broom and a few other attachments to try
Each pump on a 3 pump mini is 4 gpm, not enough flow to do anything but run a auger really slow.
Each pump on a 2 pump mini is 6.3 gpm, making them faster in every way than a 3 pump mini.
Only way you will run a grinder is to upgrade to a 15 gpm, 3000 psi single pump and run a flow divider like Bob Payne did. That way all the flow, or any amount of the flow can be sent where it's needed. For stump grinding we would set the lever to 95% to the grinder and 5% to the tracks so we can still move slowly. Trouble with the three pump idea is the front attachment is always lacking flow and the tracks are too fast. Then doing loader work the tracks are 30% slower than the two pump.
@natsterlive Very good information and explanation. Thanks
Hey J Bros great video! I was wondering if there’s a way I’m able to contact you through DM or social media? I have some tips and tricks I’d like to share with you that would help with your content! You didn’t go over any of the exterior hoses and I can show you some smart fixes on some things I have done to free things up on this machine. I also found a super fast and simple way to add springs to the stand plate to make the ride way smoother and more comfortable. I searched high and low on how to message you personally on RUclips and there isn’t a way. Are you able to share an email address with me or something so I can send you pictures?
On this platform I am not able to share info. I think when I become monitized at 500 subs, I think I have access to different platforms.
@@TheJBros520 do you have an email address I could contact you by? Most RUclips channels supply a contact email in the “about” info on the channel profile.
I'd love to see how you added those springs to the stand plate. Do you have a link/video? Thanks!
@MyakkaWilderness I'll get that video out soon!! Refining my set up so anyone can do it!!
I have a 2 stage pump running off the same engine as yours. Do you know if it is possible to add the 3rd stage to the two stage units?
@Microbc I'd say so but I'm not sure how all that would work. Obviously the engine can handle it.
@@TheJBros520 I wonder if I would need to replace the hydraulic tank to hold more fluid? Has anyone looked in to this and sourced parts required?
Complete waste of time adding the 3 stack pump due to low flow so bad it will not run anything but a auger really slow.
You would also sow down your tracks and loader 30 % by adding the third pump. In a 2 pump mini each pump is 6.3 gpm. The 3 pump mini is only 4 gpm each pump making them crazy slow.
Best is the large 15 gpm, 3000 psi single pump with flow divider.
i dont understand why the chinese engineers have it done this way, why not just have one larger pump? my kanga has larger single attached to a gx690 and it never slows or stalls
Think that could be an option down the road, if these go bad not that I expect them to?? what size of engine is your Kanga?
@@TheJBros520 i think it's 26hp it's a Honda gx690 v twin
@@janramonmartin Thanks
I agree. This stacking 4 gpm pumps is silly and really slow. Best is a single 15 gpm, 3000 psi pump running into a flow divider. Bob Payne did one to a LRT 23
@@natsterlive Do you have the link to Bob Payne I am trying to find that thanks!!!
This video should be taken down. Now I see why so many people thought they should buy a "3 stack pump".
Unfortunately the 3 pump mini skids are the LEAST USEFUL of all the mini skids and here is why.
Flow. A 23 hp mini skid with three pumps only puts out 4 gpm each pump. 4 gpm will not run anything but a small auger, really really slowly. To make things worse, the three stack pump is causing this unit to move the tracks and loader 30% slower than a more common 2 stack pump. Also, because 30% of the flow is not useful when doing loader work, you never load the engine when pushing. 23 hp, 2 stack pump mini skids give 6.4 gpm making them faster tracking and moving the loader.
In order to use the 3 pump system, we would need to upgrade that engine to a 40 hp brigs vanguard, running a 5x5x10 pump. Each of the 5 gpm pumps would run one side tracks and loader and the third 10 gpm would run front attachments. This upgrade would also need a larger 25 gal hydraulic tank, and twin coolers.
Best and most useful of all systems is one large pump with flow divider like Bob Payne did on his LRT 23. 15 gpm single pump with the ability to run any combination of flow to tracks or high flow front attachment. This is best for a few reasons but the most useful is the ability to slow the tracks to a crawl while giving all the rest of the flow to the front attachment like a trencher or snow blower. The track drives in these AGT 400 size mini skids can take 20 gpm EACH. You going from 4 gpm to 7.5 would be nearly twice the travel speed.
Thanks for this. I'm going to copy this info and redo a video. Then edit or pull this video