One of the best video that i have ever seen.. The interpretation is exceptional by Baradwaj Rangan.. I just hope that cinephiles around the world acknowledge the World Class Story/Screenplay/Dialogue Writer that Kamal Haasan Sir was/is and will always be.. Kudos to Bharathan Sir was directing this movie brilliantly.. Amazing performances by Sivaji Sir, Kamal Haasan Sir, Nassar, Revathi, Gautami, Vadivelu etc.. Brilliant Music by Ilaiyaraja Sir..
Nassar told in an Telugu interview (open heart with rk) many years back that on the opening day of Thevar Magan, Kamal came and told him 'You are not villain in this movie. Don't see yourself as a negative character. From your perspective, you are doing the right thing.' I didn't understand then. After seeing BR's deconstructing KH character and showing how he is the reason for the all the mess, including bringing out the animal in Nassar, I get it now.
Thank you Galatta Tamil for bringing out such an wonderful dissection of an epic movie called 'Thevar Magan'. I watched this movie when I was doing my PG with leftist ideological understanding and perspective. Along with me there were two of my classmates who are from Dalit Community. Both of them praised this movie for the intent with which the movie was taken (Transformation from I to WE and WE to US). Though I am one of the huge fans of Kamal's movies, I criticized this movie for certain specific reasons, especially those feudalistic scenes. Though I was able to look at those scenes from the perspective of that particular character (Shakthi), I was not fully convinced about glorification of a particular caste/family. This interview with Bhardwaj has made me to understand it better. Yes, most of us carrying the emotions of only the song that glorified but forgot the the same tune with different lyrics. Thank you once again.
Being an ardent fan of BR sir, Great initiative by Galata that it doesnt limit him just to Galatta plus and brings him to the larger audience. Hope we get more discussions like this. Tara is just the best on the opposite side someone who not just listens bt also adds up to BR sir
Kamal character in that movie is the perfect registration of first generation Thevar graduates who tried to become modern and striving hard to leave their privilege and rich Thevar hegemony .
All those who claim it is a casteist film should watch this video. The intent of the film maker and the honesty is aptly explained by Bharadwaj Rangan. Please talk about other Kamal Haasan films.
This is what the movie is all about and in my opinion even Kamal sir wanted to convey it in this manner.. But the issue is, only few elite or educated people understood the core concept and many from South Tamil especially rural villages “Devarai Potrum” padamagavum, “Potri paadadi ponne” song vachu mattum avanga panna aniyayam marakka mudiyathu.. Intha movie paatha aprom yaara irunthalum Manidhathin osai ongirukkanum but those people, core concept purinjikkama avangaloda pride ah eduthuttu adha thirumba thirumba Keel Saathiyinar mela thangala glorify panni avangala thunburuthurathu thaan nadanthuchu.. Just like “Aayirathil Oruvan” ivlo varusham kalichu at least after watching this video society maaruna nalla irukkum.. A truly excellent film.. And an extraordinary explanation or decoding video by BR..❤
கொக்கரக் கொக்கரக்கோ சேவலே ! கொந்தளிக்கும் மனங்களுக்கு நீ அன்பாலே அக்கறை காட்டி கருதுவதில் ரெண்டும் உண்டு, குற்றம் ஏதும் நடந்திடவில்லை என்று புரிய வைக்க முயல்கிறாய். அது நடந்தால் தேவலே.
இது பல புது பார்வை கோணங்களை திறந்துள்ளது. சிறப்ப அய்யா. ஆனாலும் சாதி பெயர், சாதி பாட்டை கமல் வியாபாரம்/ விளப்பரமாக பயன்படுத்தியது உண்மை. இதை திரு.மாரிசெலவராஜ் பார்க்கவேண்டும்.
for the climax, not only that, but the weight of the sword makes him difficult to control it and he beheaded.. and because it is heavy, normally he drags along after the killing.
On of the best and interesting concepts. Need more of these. Already open panna la karthick oda indha maari oru discussion start pantu stop panteenga.. idhayachu regular ah pannavum.
Wow the best interpretation 😊😊 good job Tara u managed yourself to Baddy . I’m huge fan of baddy since so long first time . His vision always different from others ❤
Well done tara, especially....your statement on whether kamal teases... One thing that you have missed in this interview is on, how kamal has portrayed an advocate character...
This is a great initiative from team Galatta, two generations of cinema reviewers almost decoding a film. Hope we can expect more episodes in the line-up.
Good convo & analysis 👍 I vividly remember seeing it in the theatres when it was released just like BR … the movie was euphorically received across the masses & classes which was a bit of rarity …the movie struck a chord with everyone - be it stellar acting , direction , songs , story , screenplay , dialogues, cinematography … this movie was Kamal’s ode to the great icon Sivaji ( who was sensational ) & screenplay inspirations from movies such as Godfather perfectly adapted to a native setting ….not sure what todays controversy is ( must be politically motivated) , setting the folly aside this was/is that rare gem of a movie which was/is appreciated by one and all and will stand the test of time in the movie archives - Kamal just looked regal in his handlebar stach & vetti avatar and every college going kid at that time wanted to emulate his look … Wish the great Sivaji Ganesan had more such fulfilling & powerful roles in the latter half of his career … special mention to Vadivelu who was a breakout star & Nasser who had one of the best antagonist roles on screen … finally Do I have to say Maestro Ilayaraja’s songs were a rage , still is ! Go watch , re-watch and enjoy a classic delivered by the versatile Kamalhasan & Bharathan … pottri padadi 👍
Esaki the character who played by vadivelu is actually from thevar community in this movie , we can find out this in couple of scenes and in dialogues ex in one particular scene Esaki will sing thekathi kalanada then madurai pandiyanda when he break the temple lock this proves he is a kallar (mukkolathor )what mari selvaraj said is Esaki is thevandra kulla vellar is completely falls information .
Very interesting take. I interpreted it always as loyal....sidekick. Also, Revathi being pregnant at the end, I understood as a new and different begining for the family.
At least BR has the sense to appreciate that Ranjth and Mari are looking at the same story from the opposite perspective, as they are entitled to. To debase their view in such a cheap manner is not justified.
How about announcing the next movie you are going to reflect on in the closing comments so that we can re-watch it and be ready to compare notes with you?
Good conversation. The real cause of trouble in Pandiya Nadu were the songs... 1. Potri padadi penne... 2. Inji idupu azhaga, manja sevappu... These two songs triggered the Caste violence which is topped with Fair-black racism. The sad part is no one cared to extinguish the Caste violence amplified by the movie... Until Vetrimaran & Mari Selvaraj came with their movies to tell the tale of the victims.
That chain reaction from opening temple door...same happened in real world later when Ariel Sharon forcefully entered Al Aqsa mosque....resulting in Intifada
It is brilliant dissection as always by the one and only BR. I agree with the character arc characterization BR articulate. True, the native instincts never leave even if we desperately want to reinvent ourselves. However I don't know if I really agree if the movie is as self-aware as BR suggests. Even the lyrics that BR seem to point to a heroic attempt by the protagonist to change the commoners but they just wouldn't change. So I will have to beg to disagree with that interpretation. But BR himself says everyone perceives the material differently, So no qualms with that.
One aspect which I cannot come to terms with, when I think about this movie. What was Nasser/Mayan/Chinnathevar's son thinking before committing the big crime? In the whole movie, he was shown as a shrewd, vile and yet a person who covers up his tracks intelligently. But inconsistent at the end. Case 1: When the flooding happens. Even with the witness he was able to steer it to a dead end Case 2: When he tried to kill, he was not involved directly, with the truck Case 3: When he tried to lure the drunkard son to sign the documents, it was a covert operation Climax : Bomb the chariot and escape...(to where?) What was the end game, why did he try to so blatantly bomb the chariot in the Thiruvizha? Apparently it was open & shut case that led to Mayan being hunted. He immediately went on a hideout. Very brute force crime, there is no connivance or contriving of the final plot. Could've written a better escape plan for a well characterized role of Mayan. Somewhat of a wild goose chase at the end.
Many people mis under stood the story... It's basically a rivalry between two brother's family.... Both belong to Maravar branch of Thevar community... When the lawyer tell naazar கள்ளனையா நீ...Naazar immediately retard saying நான் மறவன்... Similarly Vadivelu is actually projected as கள்ளர் community.... The temple problem is between Kallar and Maravar... So only Vadivelu will sing a song தெக்கத்தி கள்ளனடா while breaking the lock of the temple.... Similarly when Kamal enquire about his health at the hospital and who did this ,, Vadivelu will tell *எல்லாம் நம்ம சொந்தகார பயக தான்* He was referring his relatives who injured him for opening the gate of temple... Without knowing the full depth of the movie... Mari Selvam is now.. மாத்தி சொல்வோம்..... மாத்தி சொல்வோம்...
I watched ThevarMagan movie in a C centre theatre in outskirts of Coimbatore... The top level seats were just the bench and it was a matinee show but housefull... Though I was just 8 years old but understood the theme that it is feudalism between the good and evil cousins and completely got the dialogue "போங்கடா... போய் விவசாயம் பண்ணுங்கடா.. புள்ள குட்டிகள படிக்க வைங்கடா" That was only the time I watched it on screen and not even 2nd time in any format of screening.. what else a writer or director or the actor can convey to the audience.. The best message for life...😮
Really ur thoughts r well and good.. but 1% not seen that movie in ur perspectives in that days and now also.. that's the reason why all r hating Kamal.. actually the PhD lecturer was given to primary school students.. tht makes issue in that early periods..
Bharadwaj is under some kind of pressure and his view is biased in some ways. Bharadwaj: "..The whole family has to be destroyed for people to be at peace.." totally messed up view. Clearly the song means the tragedy of none left to save the village "Nallavali nee thaan...sonnavana thaane soolntha intha paavam".. Also, the family is not destroyed.Kamal points to his pregnant wife to take care of his son? Before boarding the train.
இதுக்கு மேலே யாரும் தேவர் மகன் படத்தை பத்தி விளக்கமா கூற முடியாது Welldone BR Sir 👏🥳
salute u kamal sir...having tears now .....enna manushan ya aandavar
One of the best video that i have ever seen..
The interpretation is exceptional by Baradwaj Rangan..
I just hope that cinephiles around the world acknowledge the World Class Story/Screenplay/Dialogue Writer that Kamal Haasan Sir was/is and will always be..
Kudos to Bharathan Sir was directing this movie brilliantly..
Amazing performances by Sivaji Sir, Kamal Haasan Sir, Nassar, Revathi, Gautami, Vadivelu etc..
Brilliant Music by Ilaiyaraja Sir..
BR and Tara
One of the best interview ever,
Great to see you guys for conversation about Thevar Magan
Nassar told in an Telugu interview (open heart with rk) many years back that on the opening day of Thevar Magan, Kamal came and told him 'You are not villain in this movie. Don't see yourself as a negative character. From your perspective, you are doing the right thing.' I didn't understand then. After seeing BR's deconstructing KH character and showing how he is the reason for the all the mess, including bringing out the animal in Nassar, I get it now.
This is almost like a Wonderful Forensic Examination of the Movie !!☺👍Dissection, Inspection, Observation & Inference 🤗
Thank you Galatta Tamil for bringing out such an wonderful dissection of an epic movie called 'Thevar Magan'. I watched this movie when I was doing my PG with leftist ideological understanding and perspective. Along with me there were two of my classmates who are from Dalit Community. Both of them praised this movie for the intent with which the movie was taken (Transformation from I to WE and WE to US).
Though I am one of the huge fans of Kamal's movies, I criticized this movie for certain specific reasons, especially those feudalistic scenes. Though I was able to look at those scenes from the perspective of that particular character (Shakthi), I was not fully convinced about glorification of a particular caste/family. This interview with Bhardwaj has made me to understand it better. Yes, most of us carrying the emotions of only the song that glorified but forgot the the same tune with different lyrics. Thank you once again.
one of the best explanation ... Tara one of the best interview ever Baradwaj sir i love this
Being an ardent fan of BR sir, Great initiative by Galata that it doesnt limit him just to Galatta plus and brings him to the larger audience. Hope we get more discussions like this. Tara is just the best on the opposite side someone who not just listens bt also adds up to BR sir
Kamal character in that movie is the perfect registration of first generation Thevar graduates who tried to become modern and striving hard to leave their privilege and rich Thevar hegemony .
Unbelievably brilliant talk BR.... You analysed it so well
All those who claim it is a casteist film should watch this video. The intent of the film maker and the honesty is aptly explained by Bharadwaj Rangan. Please talk about other Kamal Haasan films.
This is what the movie is all about and in my opinion even Kamal sir wanted to convey it in this manner.. But the issue is, only few elite or educated people understood the core concept and many from South Tamil especially rural villages “Devarai Potrum” padamagavum, “Potri paadadi ponne” song vachu mattum avanga panna aniyayam marakka mudiyathu.. Intha movie paatha aprom yaara irunthalum Manidhathin osai ongirukkanum but those people, core concept purinjikkama avangaloda pride ah eduthuttu adha thirumba thirumba Keel Saathiyinar mela thangala glorify panni avangala thunburuthurathu thaan nadanthuchu.. Just like “Aayirathil Oruvan” ivlo varusham kalichu at least after watching this video society maaruna nalla irukkum.. A truly excellent film.. And an extraordinary explanation or decoding video by BR..❤
Brilliant session.i appreciate brs understanding and sincerity towards film making
படைத்தவன் மேல் பழியுமில்லை, ரசித்தவன் மேல் பாவமில்லை; எடுத்துக் கொண்டோர் இயல்பினிலே இருக்கிறதே எல்லாம் எல்லாம்.
கொக்கரக் கொக்கரக்கோ சேவலே ! கொந்தளிக்கும் மனங்களுக்கு நீ அன்பாலே அக்கறை காட்டி கருதுவதில் ரெண்டும் உண்டு, குற்றம் ஏதும் நடந்திடவில்லை என்று புரிய வைக்க முயல்கிறாய். அது நடந்தால் தேவலே.
உண்மை
இது பல புது பார்வை கோணங்களை திறந்துள்ளது. சிறப்ப அய்யா.
ஆனாலும் சாதி பெயர், சாதி பாட்டை கமல் வியாபாரம்/ விளப்பரமாக பயன்படுத்தியது உண்மை.
இதை திரு.மாரிசெலவராஜ் பார்க்கவேண்டும்.
Very clearly explained by barathwaj sir about the thevar magan movie. Good conversation.
Great analysis! Learnt so much. One feedback - would be wonderful to have chapters for long videos like these
for the climax, not only that, but the weight of the sword makes him difficult to control it and he beheaded.. and because it is heavy, normally he drags along after the killing.
On of the best and interesting concepts. Need more of these. Already open panna la karthick oda indha maari oru discussion start pantu stop panteenga.. idhayachu regular ah pannavum.
What an interview ... Love you baradwaj rangan sir ... Kindly more movie interpretation.we are waiting for you❤❤❤❤❤❤
Best screen play ever written. Better than even Godfather.
God father is epic❤ devar magan is copy 🤮🤮🤮
@@vikram7014 people like you who think everything western is great .. learn to appreciate your own local stuff .. dont act like a cool dude,,
Super you told about Kamal sir bri thanks
Wow the best interpretation 😊😊 good job Tara u managed yourself to Baddy .
I’m huge fan of baddy since so long first time . His vision always different from others ❤
Beautiful observations! 9:00 Loyal "subjects"? Again reinforcing the zamindarism, the hierarchy.
Now I realize, why people call Kamal Sir....Aandavar...🥰
Only few films gives a lot of space and opportunity to make such an in-depth analysis and research. Thavar magan is one such.
Wat a such a beautiful movie we are waiting for Kamal direction welcome always the milestone movies ever win Oscar of people
Great discussion. Please do more like this 👍
Well done tara, especially....your statement on whether kamal teases... One thing that you have missed in this interview is on, how kamal has portrayed an advocate character...
This is a great initiative from team Galatta, two generations of cinema reviewers almost decoding a film. Hope we can expect more episodes in the line-up.
Good discussion !
Tho Interrupting Baddie midway, several times.. could be avoided plz...
Very good conversation with interpretation ❤
அருமையான தெளிவான விளக்கம் சூப்பராக சொன்னீர்கள்
Excellent conversation...
Lovely interpretation ❤
Good convo & analysis 👍 I vividly remember seeing it in the theatres when it was released just like BR … the movie was euphorically received across the masses & classes which was a bit of rarity …the movie struck a chord with everyone - be it stellar acting , direction , songs , story , screenplay , dialogues, cinematography … this movie was Kamal’s ode to the great icon Sivaji ( who was sensational ) & screenplay inspirations from movies such as Godfather perfectly adapted to a native setting ….not sure what todays controversy is ( must be politically motivated) , setting the folly aside this was/is that rare gem of a movie which was/is appreciated by one and all and will stand the test of time in the movie archives - Kamal just looked regal in his handlebar stach & vetti avatar and every college going kid at that time wanted to emulate his look … Wish the great Sivaji Ganesan had more such fulfilling & powerful roles in the latter half of his career … special mention to Vadivelu who was a breakout star & Nasser who had one of the best antagonist roles on screen … finally Do I have to say Maestro Ilayaraja’s songs were a rage , still is ! Go watch , re-watch and enjoy a classic delivered by the versatile Kamalhasan & Bharathan … pottri padadi 👍
Just an awesome discussion.
Unbelievably clear analysis! makes the movie even more interesting that I originally thought!
How to watch this movie again !! Brilliant discussion of the movie !
Absolutely great review
Great discussion 💥💥💥
Do for virumaandi
I'm waiting
Esaki the character who played by vadivelu is actually from thevar community in this movie , we can find out this in couple of scenes and in dialogues ex in one particular scene Esaki will sing thekathi kalanada then madurai pandiyanda when he break the temple lock this proves he is a kallar (mukkolathor )what mari selvaraj said is Esaki is thevandra kulla vellar is completely falls information .
We need more of this kind..
One of the best videos from gallata. Thanks for BR
Very interesting take. I interpreted it always as loyal....sidekick. Also, Revathi being pregnant at the end, I understood as a new and different begining for the family.
நீங்க சொல்ற எல்லாம் சரிதான். இது மாரிக்கும் தெரியும் . ஆனா மாரிட நோக்கம் வேற . படமும் விளம்பரம் ஆகனும். மாரியும் விளம்பரம் ஆகனும் இதுதான் அது
At least BR has the sense to appreciate that Ranjth and Mari are looking at the same story from the opposite perspective, as they are entitled to. To debase their view in such a cheap manner is not justified.
Please discuss about epic - "VIRUMAANDI"
BR & Tara convo ❤ Taraaa...! You are growing as an anchor..
So so happy for you..
How about announcing the next movie you are going to reflect on in the closing comments so that we can re-watch it and be ready to compare notes with you?
Absolute best!!!!!
BR movie pathi pesuradha kettukitte irukkalam pola irukku.. could’ve spoken much longer about his analysis
The correst response to all that controversy !
Good conversation. The real cause of trouble in Pandiya Nadu were the songs...
1. Potri padadi penne...
2. Inji idupu azhaga, manja sevappu...
These two songs triggered the Caste violence which is topped with Fair-black racism.
The sad part is no one cared to extinguish the Caste violence amplified by the movie... Until Vetrimaran & Mari Selvaraj came with their movies to tell the tale of the victims.
Loyal "Subjects". The word "Subjects" is more apt than "Servants".
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but context is no different .. he treats himself as a king others as a subjects
It would have been better if the interviewer did not feel the need to interject BR at regular intervals. Please let BR finish his train of thought.
Exceptional analysis and trying to connect the dots completely to understand the big picture here... soulfully engaging 🎉🎉❤
That chain reaction from opening temple door...same happened in real world later when Ariel Sharon forcefully entered Al Aqsa mosque....resulting in Intifada
It is brilliant dissection as always by the one and only BR. I agree with the character arc characterization BR articulate. True, the native instincts never leave even if we desperately want to reinvent ourselves. However I don't know if I really agree if the movie is as self-aware as BR suggests. Even the lyrics that BR seem to point to a heroic attempt by the protagonist to change the commoners but they just wouldn't change. So I will have to beg to disagree with that interpretation. But BR himself says everyone perceives the material differently, So no qualms with that.
excellent narrative.
One aspect which I cannot come to terms with, when I think about this movie. What was Nasser/Mayan/Chinnathevar's son thinking before committing the big crime? In the whole movie, he was shown as a shrewd, vile and yet a person who covers up his tracks intelligently. But inconsistent at the end.
Case 1: When the flooding happens. Even with the witness he was able to steer it to a dead end
Case 2: When he tried to kill, he was not involved directly, with the truck
Case 3: When he tried to lure the drunkard son to sign the documents, it was a covert operation
Climax : Bomb the chariot and escape...(to where?)
What was the end game, why did he try to so blatantly bomb the chariot in the Thiruvizha? Apparently it was open & shut case that led to Mayan being hunted. He immediately went on a hideout. Very brute force crime, there is no connivance or contriving of the final plot. Could've written a better escape plan for a well characterized role of Mayan. Somewhat of a wild goose chase at the end.
Excellent points! Could it be that at the end he was desperate, frustrated and that drove him to less sensible/ logical acts?
Please do the same for uthama villian. Waiting
BR sir you should do more of such videos than interviews
Many people mis under stood the story...
It's basically a rivalry between two brother's family....
Both belong to Maravar branch of Thevar community...
When the lawyer tell naazar கள்ளனையா நீ...Naazar immediately retard saying நான் மறவன்...
Similarly Vadivelu is actually projected as கள்ளர் community....
The temple problem is between Kallar and Maravar...
So only Vadivelu will sing a song தெக்கத்தி கள்ளனடா while breaking the lock of the temple....
Similarly when Kamal enquire about his health at the hospital and who did this ,, Vadivelu will tell *எல்லாம் நம்ம சொந்தகார பயக தான்* He was referring his relatives who injured him for opening the gate of temple...
Without knowing the full depth of the movie... Mari Selvam is now.. மாத்தி சொல்வோம்..... மாத்தி சொல்வோம்...
Mari was talking about the trail effects that the movie caused. ground level le enna bunda narakutthunnu teriyama boomba kudathu.
BR Sir is absolutely correct ❤
My favourite movie
😂😂😂 தெளிவான விளக்கம்
I ha a nice time watching this conversation :)
Soooooperb
I watched ThevarMagan movie in a C centre theatre in outskirts of Coimbatore... The top level seats were just the bench and it was a matinee show but housefull... Though I was just 8 years old but understood the theme that it is feudalism between the good and evil cousins and completely got the dialogue "போங்கடா... போய் விவசாயம் பண்ணுங்கடா.. புள்ள குட்டிகள படிக்க வைங்கடா" That was only the time I watched it on screen and not even 2nd time in any format of screening.. what else a writer or director or the actor can convey to the audience.. The best message for life...😮
THEVAR ❤🔥
Hero makes mistakes and the repercussions affecting others..is it a genre? Master, Theri..
Thevar mahan..❤❤❤
அனைத்து நசுக்க பட்டோர் பிசுக்க பட்டோர் சார்பாக சிவில் சட்டத்தை ஆதரிக்கிறோம்
Very interesting conversation to watch 🙌🔥🔥
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Really ur thoughts r well and good.. but 1% not seen that movie in ur perspectives in that days and now also.. that's the reason why all r hating Kamal.. actually the PhD lecturer was given to primary school students.. tht makes issue in that early periods..
Interviewers Id or full name
Next "விருமாண்டி" BR Sir❤
Devar Magan🔥🔥🔥...
Don't interrupt BR while he's talking
Everyone knows the story and what I discussed over here we need what is the actual cause and motive of the movie
He actually breaks for gautami😅
Lovely
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Akkawww 😍🔥
அந்த இடத்தில் இருந்து பார்த்தால் மட்டுமே புரியும்......???????? (உங்கள் காணொளியை பார்க்கவில்லை தலைப்புக்கு மட்டுமே உன்டான பதில் இது)
Amazing baddy....love to know your perception
35.48 Seconds 👌👌👌👌
Namma ooru sakshi..
purinjavan pistha 😂
Maathevan should have hosted this
Thevar Magan Re Release seithal super hit agum
Please talk about madras, attakathi, kabali
Why didn’t you talk about director???
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Bharadwaj is under some kind of pressure and his view is biased in some ways.
Bharadwaj: "..The whole family has to be destroyed for people to be at peace.." totally messed up view. Clearly the song means the tragedy of none left to save the village "Nallavali nee thaan...sonnavana thaane soolntha intha paavam"..
Also, the family is not destroyed.Kamal points to his pregnant wife to take care of his son? Before boarding the train.
Devar Magan is inspired from God Father and Mahabharat..
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Castiest film enda muttu
Somare selvaraj see this interview.