TRY FIND BLOCK STATS I READ FEW YEARS AGO HE HAD 26 BLOCKS VS PISTONS AND AVERAGE ALMOST 7 BPG ENTIRE CAREER. ALSO ARNOLD NOT LIE BOUT 600 LBS , ARNY NEVER LIE BOUT BODYBUILDING CAUSE HE WON MISTER UNIVERSUM SEVERAL TIMES AND GYM IS HIS LIFE.
Simple reason Wilt would be a nightmare for Shaq and it’s what Bill Russell was saying: Wilt would force Shaq to run all game…he (and anyone else) would be so gassed they couldn’t keep up. There’s a reason he played the highest average minutes per game for a career. His most underrated physical trait was his inhuman endurance.
That wouldn’t effect him. Hakeem is on record in saying that was his goal against Shaq and he just ended up tiring himself out. Shaq had stamina… The issue was Shaq was all mental.
Exactly! The laziness of Shaq always perturbed me. Shaq would not have been that lazy in Chamberlain’s era, the coaches would have released him if he did not toe the line.
You got that right. Now if you were to limit Wilt to 30 mins a game like they did with Shaq, then they might play to a draw. But Wilt’s superior fitness would mean Shaq would have to be on the floor all 48 mins. And Shaq would wilt. Geddit wilt …
robert wadlow was 8'11" tall, I never heard anything about his athleticism, and he would have been able to stand outside the key and score at will. average 80 ppg maybe? at some point you realize...basketball is the most flawed of all popular team sports, and about on the level of professional wrestling with the fixed games/corrupt refs/corrupt league
the only down side about Wilt ... is that he played in a era where there were a lot fewer teams and fewer superstar players and the season was shorter ... it would have been very interesting to see him play (in his prime) in the 70's or 80's or 90's
We helped build Wilt's house one year. I was delivering some doors to his house where each door weighed 125 lbs per door. I struggled with one, where Wilt grabbed 4 at a one time and carried them away. He was the strongest person that I have ever seen and a really nice person!
@@crosfrancis8239 benching is different than carrying 4 doors weighing a total of 500 lbs. When you are benching, you have the maximum possible force you could output since the weight is aligned with the direction of the force you applied. Carrying standard sized door that is 30 inches wide and 80 inches high and weighing 500 lbs in total is just different since you cant apply the maximum force unless you are carrying it over your head.
His fitness was already great. Came into the game a track star. Fast, agile, strong with incredible endurance. Imagine what he'd be able to do with modern sneakers.
Imagine Wilt playing with the same rules as Shaq - the thing Wilt said that was solid: Shaq basically committed an offensive foul almost every move to the basket- the defender, standing straight up , arms up and Shaq shoulders them out of the way is an offensive foul- the defender is called for a foul on this play- that alone is what allowed Shaq to play in the NBA
Wilt’s weakness (if he had one, aside from FT shooting) was that he got bored easily. He always wanted a new challenge. Being the biggest, baddest strongest guy in the NBA would have been easy for him. He became a finesse player (most of the time) because it was more interesting for him.
Imagine wilt with today's prohop/ extra step. He'd be unstoppable because he could jump farther than mJ with a shorter run distance and he could get above the backboard with a standing dunk. Some people claim that wilt couldn't get to the top of the backboard I saw him do it twice once almost there the other was in college he got his hand above the backboard.
Wilt Chamberlain was 1 of 9 children and was born to parents of average height . He stood over 7'1 without shoes and weighed 327 pounds of pure muscle at his heaviest weight ever recorded. He weighed 320 by training camp in 1963 when he was 27 . Wilt was a 7 foot track and field star. He was a 3 time high jump conference champion in college , a crack quarter mile runner and held the state shot put record in Pennsylvania by the time he was only 17 years old in 1953. There is a picture of Wilt pinning a ball at the very top of the backboard in college on a block . A 23 year old rookie Wilt had a reported 45 inch max vertical in 1959 with a max reach of 13'3 and with a standing reach of 9'6 barefoot . There is even a clip of Wilt in college snatching a shot midair cleanly with one hand off a standing vertical near the top of the backboard. Wilt is far and away the strongest player in NBA history. There are so many anecdotes and stories by people who knew him of his god given and supernatural strength. Wilt could effortlessly pick up grown ass men by the fucking armpits like toddlers just like he did to Red Buttons in 1976 when he was 40 on the roast of Muhammad Ali . There is a clip of Wilt in college fighting for the ball in the post in the mid 1950's and he hooks arms with one of the opposing players, lifts him off the ground and literally swings him through the air to his left with ONE arm ! I'm talking about a 240ish pound Wilt in college in his early 20's who wasn't remotely close to as strong or as heavy as he came to be. Wilt averaged 45.8 minutes a game for his ENTIRE 14 year career in the NBA while playing at the fastest pace ever , running up and down the court an additional 30+ times than he would today in Chuck Taylors and in a far more physical league. In the 1961-62 season even averaging more minutes per game than there are in a complete game at 48.5 for all 80 games of the season with ease . He did this while the Philadelphia Warriors solely depended on him to be the top scorer, top rebounder and top shot blocker in the entire league all at once. There is not another athlete in existence of the past or present that could EVER do something like that. Wilt was a pro volleyball player for many years after he retired from basketball at the age of 37 in 1973 and is a volleyball hall of famer . Wilt still was getting serious offers to play more NBA basketball until he was 53 years old in 1989 . Wilt didn't have access to 21st century world class state of the art training facilities , shoe technology , workout and weight lifting regimes , personal trainers , dieting , pampering , couldn't spend millions every year to care for his body and didn't use steroids and PED's . Just imagine if Wilt grew up in the 21st century and not in the 1940's and 1950's . What kind of further absolutely fucking FREAK of an athlete would we be talking about then in Wilt Chamberlain ?? Truly 1 in a trillion genetics. That man was a literal biblical like Goliath walking the face of the planet
Wilt is the biggest self saboteur in the history of sports. He could be holding every record there is to have and no one would catch him. But his mind was not that of a winner. He didn't have a winners mentality, he had a superhero mentality and that doesn't work in sports.
@@pocohax6552 I disagree, he was on teams he had to carry too many times. That was not is fault like it is today when teams form a new click every couple of years. When he had a 'Kobe' he won the title. Two titles with two incredible teams. Basketball is a team game and he actually played a great team game most years. He led the league in scoring, rebounding and assists at one time or another, many times the scoring and rebounding parts. Even Jordan would be languishing if he didn't have a Scotty, a Rodman, or even a John Paxson. And, BTW, Wilt still holds the most records by any single individual in NBA history with 72 records. And he retired over 40 years ago! He had 968 double doubles, 227 in a row, both records. You are saying perhaps the greatest athlete in team sports history is a disappointment? Well, I'd love to do so poorly at anything!
@@pocohax6552 When he actually had a good team in Philly, they set the all-time record for wins and destroyed my Celtics in the finals. When he had a good team in LA, they broke that record.
Michael Jordan would average 50 today. Wilt would average 70. Today's game is a parody. There's not one player who could have gotten into an arena in Wilt's day, unless he was pushing a mop.
Even early on, Shaq couldn't bump and bully Wilt, it just wouldn't work - he only did this to smaller guys. Wilt was kind but could be dangerous if he wanted
Yeah. Seems like he held back a bit while in the league. I kind of wonder if Wilt would have been better if he had a guy like Kobe as his teammate. I feel like Kobe would have brought the nasty out of Wilt by constantly challenging him. I feel like no one challenged Wilt and that's why he never really reached the level he could have.
@@Jkev24 Wilt would have kicked Kobe’s ass and told him to STFU if he tried some of the $hit we’ve all heard about but Kobe wouldn’t have tried that with Wilt. First of all Kobe Bean was a Philly area guy and his father Jelly Bean, from Philly an NBA player as well educated Kobe about Wilt, THE Philly legend of all time, as probably did everyone else and Kobe is on record with big respect for Wilt as his GOAT. Some people get it twisted bc they really don’t know about Wilt. Nobody F’d with him. You think Kobe would? ruclips.net/video/oqo67-kp7-I/видео.html
@@edbea2 Chris Childs is 6'2 ... Guy punched Kobrick 3 times in mouth and story since then is over for me. I saw enuf. Media try to sell jordan kobe lebronze ...presenting them like some gods...but in reality just google how MJ look down in floor ground when 1997 on 50 goat ceremony Wilt stare him in the eye and approach to him. Wilt is alnost 7'2 guy next to Shaq was like Terminator Machine body...when I saw clip how he shook hand of Shaq whole O'neal body trembles and eyes of Shaq told me he filled his pants and sox with fear.
@@TheHubeef Tall tale is right. Shaq was the most physically dominant player in the history of the NBA. He would not have to run after Wilt. All he has to do is stay within 7 feet of the rim.
We must remember that Wilt Chamberlain actually was real. That he's not some myth, because he sure seems like it. The man was unreal, superior in so many ways.
@@justmyluck9619 a lot of footage has surfaced that really puts it in perspective. Wilt Chamberlain Archive channel has some gems. The man was a freak of nature.
@@arthurmorris1813 I watched him play hundreds of games. Sometimes I had to rub my eyes because I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I watched an older Wilt tussle with a prime Kareem. At this stage, Kareem was a touch better. But there was game six playoff game on the road against the world champion Bucks and Kareem. I saw an older Wilt get totally fired up, dominating the game in the second half on BOTH ends of the court. The Lakers won that game and went on to win the championship. As a kid, I met him once, after the Lakers won game 2 of the Finals against the Celtics in 1969. Tallest, most massive man I have ever seen. To this day. He was really a sweet man, joking around with us boys. We never forgot how nice he was to us.
@@watchmanonthewall14 that's amazing dude. Wish we could've seen that. Question... do u think the NBA is more talented today than ever before? Like collectively? That's a hot argument I'm curious of ur take
@@aryavart296 bolt is faster at sprinting, that's it. Wilt literally beats him in everything else, including endurance running. We will see someone faster than Bolt in our lifetime. We won't be seeing another Wilt, maybe your great grandkids will.
Wilt would've learned to take Shaq away from the basket and work him out there. Wilt had an MJ-type fadeaway that was good. Wilt would've also had to deal with Shaq's weight, which would have worn him down as the game progressed. All of that what Wilt could bench and being so strong wanes when you have to lug 300+ pounds up and down the floor for 48 minutes.
@@sethdoddridge7806 Did he not just say that he was a better Laker than Wilt? There's more of an argument for that, 3 FMVPs vs 1 for Wilt for example is a strong metric. Also u can't really say who was more dominant bc there's a big eye test component to that and we have the tiniest sliver of recorded Wilt games to work from, so that's pretty much just Shaq's opinion not a concrete statement of fact.
@@lx4half751 I'm pretty sure he said he was the most dominant player of all time, referring to himself. I also would agree he was a better Laker considering he spent more time than Wilt did with the Lakers. But as to who dominated the league more, there is no question that Wilt Chamberlain dominated like no other. His records still seem untouchable, even 50 years later. Shaq was neither more dominant offensively nor defensively, as great a player as he was.
Wilt held back, Shaq didn't. Shaq was very skilled, but relied mostly on physicality and that wouldn't go as far with Wilt. If Wilt can block a sky hook, he can block Shaqs jump hook. You just can't "out brute" Wilt, so you're gonna need skill.
If you truly think shaq wouldn’t “out brute” wilt, the conversation can end right there. You’re thinking with your heart and bias instead of logically.
@@herogibson Did you miss the 200 pound difference in benching... You ever go heads up against someone with 30% more strength and same height? because you don't sound like you have.
Wilt was at least 60 pounds heavier than any center in that era and he used that to his advantage. In my opinion Shaq is more dominant than wilt by miles. Not even close.
@@itsmesteve1081 Dislocated his collar bone. Gus Johnson cupped the ball to dunk it in Wilt's face. Wilt grabbed the ball in one hand while Johnson still had it in his hand, and drove the ball into Johnson's (6 foot 6, solid muscle) Chest and both to the floor in one motion. Gus had dunked one earlier and showed off to Wilt. One of the few times Wilt actually took it out on another player. Gus was flattened and carried off the floor with a dislocated shoulder, only time a player attempting a Dunk had his shoulder dislocated. From Billy Cunningham, former 76's HOF player and later coach.
Wilt is so often remembered as the biggest and strongest center on the planet (which he was) that is easy to overlook how skilled he was with his shot and moves regardless of his strength and size. He could have relied exclusively on those and he would have been probably as much of a dominant force as he was but he took it to a whole other level of skill and athleticism. That was the lethal combination that made him unstoppable. It's almost literally like playing in a league of 10 year olds as an adult. Those 100 points start making much more sense after you watch a few highlights...
Wilt is criminally underrated. He would kill in any era. More so in those after his own. He was basically a solo act, imagine if he played in an age with isolation and spacing. His PG would avg 15 assists in his sleep.
I would put him with 4 shooters in today's game. And let teams choose between double teaming and let him rack up assists with kickouts, or let him score 1v1.
@@demonkingbadger6689 several seasons, Wilt had 6-11 Nate Thurmond F and 6-10 Wayne Hightower F, along with 6-0? Hal Greer PG and still put up monster numbers. he was indeed a freak of the game, never to be equalled.
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon yeah, i just thinking of what i would do with him in today's game. At the very least i do see him 25-30 ppg, 6-8 apg, and leading in rpg, and blocks per games by significant margin. Probably more that point wise, by i am trying to conservative. I would assume it to be MVP caliber, in any case. Not to mention probably a yearly DPOY candidate.
Wilt played during a time when he was vilified for being so big. Shaq's time he was cheered for his size. Can you imagine Wilt playing while not being criticized but cheered. Wilt would dominate Shaq in any era.
Nobody loves Goliath!!! The media would have torn Wilt apart if he played bully ball like Shaq. I loved Shaq, but Wilt is in the Goat conversation with Michael and Kareem.
If you ever saw Wilt play live, particularly before the knee injury, (and I was fortunate enough to see him), the guy was incredible. Fast, strong and amazingly agile. Shaq would likely be competitive early, but Wilt would run him ragged by the middle of the second quarter and score at will against. Taking nothing away from Shaq, but Wilt was just that good.
I'm old enough to have seen Wilt play in his later years. In his mid-30s in his final NBA years with the Lakers. Never have I seen such a graceful yet extremely powerful player with cat-like quickness and agility at his height and size, and never will I see another one again. This in his twilight years at that. With all due respect to Shaq, it's comparing apples to oranges. In my opinion, Wilt was the best natural athlete to ever play the game at center, and arguably the best athlete to ever play the game period.
I was born 1960 and enjoyed watching Shaq, Wilt and Kareem all in their prime. I agree. Wilt was the most athletic, Shaq was the most physically dominating (intimidating) but I reckon Kareem was the best center.
@@fishpants3877 how many rules did the NBA change to hinder the games of Kareem Jabbar & Shaq oneal! You might want to keep that in mind when you say who the greatest Center is!
@@fishpants3877 you are entitled to your opinion! (Even if the numbers & facts ain’t with you! Example: Kareem has the 29th best rebounding average in NBA history!)
I wish Wilt hadn’t passed away in 99’. I feel like he was a figure that Shaq could look up to and keep pushing himself physically in shape. You can tell that Wilt is a bit jealous on the offense that someone like shaq could use in the 90s. Wilt couldn’t lower his shoulder, back people down, it was all considered a charge back in the day. Both of these guys changed the game for all centers following them.
Wilt didn't respect Shaq wilt shot his fadeaway 60 percent or more of the time to prove he was skillful and not just another tall guy. Shaq was a bully and shoulder charged people. Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't teach him because of it. Refs didn't let him do it. Wilt believed if your big enough to hurt them you beat them with skill not brawn. Shaq failed his test. Hakeem on the other hand had he asked I think wilt would've helped him.
@@choice12ozborne Wouldn't you be jealous you got a guy in MJ that doesn't own the record books can't jump higher and isn't stronger. Then the media always short changes your 3 point range. Then underrates the skills you learned from the globetrotters plus your natural ability. Then they all call him better than you and all he done was be born in a later era with more people and more money. In ways I think many older players are jealous of that, but they also realize the more money the young guys make the higher there pensions get so they take a back seat and let them talk there trash. Wilt didn't and rightly so. He felt he was the greatest NBA player and so do many others like me. That said I watched all Mjs games. I'm from Illinois there both great but Mjs not the athlete wilt was and he isn't the better overall player. People underrated wilts offense because he sucked at free throws. Today he wouldn't it would be something he practiced growing up. Wilt felt I can just dunk and slam free throws growing up so why perfect it would you I wouldn't.
@@dustincobb5718 I think Wilt had somewhat a sense of respect for Shaq cause he recognized the brute force of Shaq’s playstyle, Wilt had always came off as arrogant so maybe he doesn’t show or express his respect of others as much as others do
@@housesports000 no wilt was clear he didn't respect Shaqs bully game he respected skillful play. Wilt didn't have the luxury of no two hand checks and less stricter refs like Shaq. Wilt didn't have a three point line to showcase his half court hookshot. Wilt knew if he'd been a bully like Shaq he'd break bill Russell Kareem and others he chose to choose skill over being a brute. He did an interview about it. He also in a video showed why he wasnt allowed with others to play like Shaq.
@@choice12ozborne Fewer teams doesn't mean what you seem to believe it does. Back then the talent was more concentrated and the rivalries more intense as a result. The NBA since, with all the teams they have now, is a more watered down league, with watered down talent, which includes many players that shouldn't even be in the league, even though unlike back in the day, players now are allowed to make a mockery out of the rule book in that they can carry the ball blatantly, double dribble, and pick up the ball and travel their asses off while take up to 5 and 6 steps which you can see for yourself watching Harden and Curry taking step back jumpers where they never stop stepping back.
@@ISkipNeckDay I saw wilt chamberlain, in 1964, at the Old Sports arena, in exposición Park, next to Los Angeles Colosium. At that time in 1964, I was 13 years old, when I saw Him, play against Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, and the Los Angeles Lakers. Then I saw Him each year at the spors Arena, until the 1968 - 69 Season when he became A Los Angeles Laker.
@@johnarcher9480 Listen to Arnold Schwarzenegger talk about Chamberlain's strength: "Wilt Chamberlain would be in the gym - we eventually ended up doing a movie together, Conan the Destroyer," Schwarzenegger said. "I was a big fan of him because he came to the gym, he would do a tricep extension - the big guys, the strongest guys would do 120 pounds, let’s say - he would come and do 150, 170 pounds. That’s how strong he was. I remember that he lifted me up with one arm like nothing."
I really wish Wilt had lived to see Shaq’s success. I think their relationship would have really gotten better the older they both got. Rest In Peace, Big Dipper. You left us far too soon.
I doubt it. Shaq is, to this day, an arrogant, egotistical punk who gets by on his size. The fact that he actually said he would have "whipped Wilt's ass" shows the depth of his narcissism and delusion.
I have Slam dunk magazine from october 1999 kept in my closet, I bought it when I was 15 years old, I already knew Wilt and he was my hero, when I read the obituary I was devastated. Wish I could have ever met him before died and take a photo and his autograph.
He would have gotten more bitter and seemed such a better old man in the 90s. Just after he died Shaq won 3 straight championships and an MVP Wilt would have hated that.
@@huwdavies-tallon3305 I don’t think that would have happened at all. In the last couple of years of his life, he was giving Michael Jordan the credit he deserved, so I think he would have done the same for Shaq.
@@pdfbanana rodman held Shaq to 0 points multiple times. They also crossed paths when he was at the Pistons. When Shaq smacks Robertson in the video you can see Rodman in the frame 1:30
Also Ben Wallace and before that Hakeem. Shaq was a beast but if he struggled against the guys we just mentioned, imagine him going up against Wilt or Russell! For reference, prime Ewing was dominated by an older Kareem who was well past his prime. The same older Kareem also held his own against a prime Hakeem. On the other hand, an older Wilt held his own against prime Kareem! That and the stats themselves answer most of the questions as to how he would fare in any era! The only real question I have is would he still average so many minutes and 50 ppg in a season? Other than that I know he would dominate like no one’s business.
Wilt gets overlooked in the goat discussion all the time. It's because his records and stats are so stupidly ridiculous, that some people question if they're even real.
Wilt was the greatest athletic specimen ever to play the game.. 7'1, official Olympics vertical of 48", unofficially 52", beat jim brown in a sprinting race, and could bench 600 lbs.... never an athlete in history that had those stats especially at 7'1"...
Nah he prob had a 36 inch vertical at most some people like mj lavine and vince carter have a vertical of about 48 inches and they could jump much higher
Playing every minute of every game sounds mythical... Oh, and he did it while wearing Chuck's. Wilt is the greatest athlete of all time. Bo Jackson is in the conversation but Wilt was basically a god walking among mortals.
Secretariat was the greast athlete,then Wilt ,Bo Jackson & Carl Lewis ..Carl was competing & winning gold in all his events.Honorable mention Hearchel Walker & Edwin Moses & Muhammad Ali.
@@richardmorris7063 I didn't know we were including non-humans. I'd go with Togo the husky dog if those are the rules. Or maybe some random cheetah in Africa.
I’m so glad you focused a bit on Wilt’s minutes played. I see so many basketball channels saying things like “If Giannis (or any dominant inside player) played for a full game, their adjusted stats would be the same as Wilt.” Key word: IF. No one has shown that level of cardio and endurance in NBA history, especially as a 7footer. Sure, you can play a guy that long, but would they be as efficient as wilt, especially when fatigue starts setting in? People just take Wilts cardio for granted, when really it’s one of the most impressive things about his career.
Hakeem Olajuwon from 1986 season to 1996 regular season avg from 37 to 41 minutes per game. David Robinson from 1989 to 1995 r. s, avg from 37 to 41 minutes, Patrick Ewing from 1988 to 1996 from 37 to 39 minutes and Dikembe Mutombo from 1991 to 2001 from 34 to 39 minutes. Nice efford from those gentleman. But I agree with you about Wilt 100%
@@vdLeo-je6os thank you for these minute breakdowns. My issue was, according to commentators, that if the only thing separating all star big men from Wilt’s numbers was minutes, then all the players you listed should have similar stat lines to Wilt. No doubt their stamina was impressive to play that long at a high level in the NBA, but what Wilt was doing was other-worldly. Much love to Greece!
Wilt is literally the only *LEGEND* in ABA/NBA history. Dude doesn't even get mentioned. The most dominant player of all time. They had to change the rules of the game because he was THAT good.
I've watched NBA during 90s, my teen years, and Shaq was my favourite player then (and probably is now, as an all-time fav) and having said that I think Wilt would break him.
@@aztronomy7457 I saw Wilt play in the 1960's and remain a NBA fan to this day. I'm not saying Wilt was stronger than Shaq, but he was incredibly strong and clearly the strongest player on the court every time I saw him, moving other centers around at will.. I see no way Shaq could have bullied him, especially at Wilt's fully matured weight of 290-300 pounds in the late 60's.. As to skill level, Wilt had far greater offensive skill than Shaq. He had a very good fadeaway jumpshot and several clever moves around the basket. Wilt was also an incredible leaper for a 7 footer..much greater than Shaq. He has to rank as one of the top shot blockers ever. Finally, he never came out of the game...his endurance was super-human. Shaq averaged almost a full quarter fewer minutes per game.
Wilton Norman Chamberlain was the G.O.A.T. Shaq was good but no way is he as great as Wilt. The three greatest centers: 1. Wilt 2. Kareem 3. Shaq 4. Russell
Wilt was the only player to block Kareem Jabbar's sky hook first. Twice in the same play against Kareem Jabbar shooting for the basket on the next attempt.
I doubt Wilt was the only player to ever block it. That’s sort of a legendary type of statement. Most likely it was blocked by a few different guys at one time or another
Wilt was Babe Ruth. One of a kind talent. Maybe Russell was a better team player and leader, but Wilt had talent like no other. Doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again. Larger than life in a game of giants.
@@chucknchar He would have been the GOAT, but he choked too many big games, mostly because of his appalling shooting from the line. 70% and he might have had a half dozen rings. The FTs cost lots of points, it allowed the opposition to climb all over him, and I think most importantly it demoralized him and his team. It's kind of like if Tiger Woods had blown a lot of majors by missing a lot of short putts. FTs are a part of the game like any other. His failure to solve his FT problem counts against him big time because it cost a lot of big games and championships. I didn't believe it at first, but if you closely examine the record it's there. Golf's my game, and he reminds me of Greg Norman and Tom Weiskoff--biggest talents out there, but with a block that kept them from closing the deal. All three famously nice and good sports about losing. Guys like Russell, Woods, and Nicklaus had a kind of ruthless self-confidence. Wilt didn't have that. A complex guy. Arrogant and insecure and a pleasure seeker. Cared too much about his image, how he looked. A lot of supremely talented people suffer a lack of grit. Think he could have solved that FT problem had he had more. He just gave up and it infected his overall game. Gave him a loser mentality. Still my favorite player. Had he had a tough, fatherly coach, I think he could have won everything.
I agree with this. Wilt is like Ruth because they set a standard and revolutionized their sports.They were glorified because there were non like them before they came along. But now...we've seen a lot of 7 footers doing crazy things....Maybe not the overall freak athlete like Chamberlain but close. We've seen a bunch of dudes being able to hit the ball a mile. They were the prototypes and made people rethink what a player should be. Great respect to both of them.
@@hoanpham4545 And probably like Ruth personality. I don't think Ruth was a particularly great team leader--he was just a supreme ballplayer and talent. He loved the spotlight and being the best--also a big time womanizer. But it was baseball, and his game didn't really have to integrate much with his teammates. He also had the good fortune of being with the Yankees and being in NY--the biggest media market. But he was arrogant and a party boy, got into lots of conflicts. But it being baseball he could get away with it as long as he brought that huge bat.
Shaq struggled with skilled big men like Yao, Smits, and Olajuwan. In my opinion, he would have struggled against Chamberlain too. Wilt could match or neutralize Shaq's strength, and then Wilt's cardio and skill would be too much for Shaq. We will never know for sure so it's just fun to conjecture
I couldn't have said it any better, Olajuwan consistently outplayed Shaq, and Yao more than held his own against Shaq. Wilt was more skilled, superb athlete, and arguably the greatest basketball player of all time. Shaq was definitely good, but not in the same league as Wilt. Shaq is too one dimensional.
@@quincebanks1732 Shaq was 17-11 vs Hakeem. Hakeem vs Shaq: 19.7ppg, 9.2reb, 2.9ast, 1.5stl, 2.1blk Shaq vs Hakeem: 24ppg, 12.1reb, 4.0ast, 0.8stl, 2.2blk. Shaq outscored Hakeem 16 of the 28 times they played. Out rebounded him 20 of the 28 times they played. Please nephew, explain to me how Shaq was consistently outplayed by Hakeem.
At 3:31 of this video when they first met and they shook hands with Wilt being well past his prime and Shaq as a rookie, Wilt almost yanked his arm out of socket. That was the strength of Wilt
More like a sad old man grabbing a younger guy really hard to tell himself he still has it. While Shaq was going for a nice leisurely friendly handshake.
Dusty-I know the game of basketball and it’s history very well. Likely more than you do. Shaquille did not have the wide-ranging game that other great centers did, like Wilt, Kareem, and even Robert Parish and Bill Walton. Shaquille did score more than Robert and Bill but he didn’t have the perimeter and passing game that they did. Joshua-yes, I agree that he did have those other skills a bit, but not to the degree that the other more well-rounded setters did. Olojowan and David Robinson may have been more well-rounded as well.
@@joshuasussman4020 Being more skilled doesn't always make you a better player. Kobe Bryant is way more skilled offensively than Lebron James. Lebron is still the better basketball player with how he effects his teammates and making the team win. Hence Hakeem is way more skilled than Shaq but is he a better overall NBA player than Shaq career wise hell no.
Wilt was the greatest athlete that ever walked the face of this earth,no one has ever combined a mix of size,power,strengh,explosiveness,stamina like him,never. He was literally not human.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Okay lets get REAL. A HUGE part of basketball is a FUNDAMENTAL SKILL called free throw shooting. Wilt SUCKED at it ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MATTERED MOST. Lets look at Wilts history of choking in big games. 1960 playoffs against the Celtics, Game 1, 8/14 from the FT line. Game 4, 6/11. Game 6, 10/16. 1961 Wilt got swept in the first round by Syracuse. Game 2 , 6/10, Game 3, 7/14. 1964 Finals vs the Celtics Game 3, Wilt goes 3/8 (38%) from FT line. 1965 EDF vs Celtics, during Game 7, 6-13 (46%) at the line. In 1966, the number 1 seed Sixers host the Celtics, and are trailing 2-1 in the series. Wilt only has 15 points, 1-4 from the FT line. In Game 5, Wilt missed 17 free throws (8/25) in an 8 points loss. CHOKE!!! Game 7 of 1968 Finals Wilt shot 6-15 (40%) at the FT line and lost. 1969 Game 7 finals, Jerry West drops 43-13-12, and the Lakers still lost. What happened? Wilt dropped only 18 points and went 4-13 (30%) at the FT line, and the Celtics only won by two points. CHOKE!!!! 1970 against the Knicks (no Bill Russel and Celtics to blame) Willis Reed injured, and Game 7, with the NBA Finals at stake Wilt goes 1-11 (9%) FT shooting and they lose. CHOKE again. 1973 finals. Game 2 - Wilt has 5 points 1-9 (11%) FT shooting, Game 3 - Wilt has 5 points and 1-4 (25%) FT shooting. Game 5 - Wilt shoots 5/14 (36%) Wilt was the greatest CHOKER in playoff history. That is what he is the greatest at.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal - Best Regular Season Averages: Free Throw: 61% | 62% - Best Play-Off Averages Free Throw: 64% | 66% They both suck at free throws, but Wilt is worse.
Wilt is the most dominant and IMO greatest individual player in Basketball history. He doesn’t have as many rings as Russell or as many Scoring titles or Finals MVPs as Jordan, or the Psychological warfare skills or Basketball IQ of Bird, but no single player has dominated their competition on both sides of the ball so completely and set as many records (most which still stand today) in the process. When you take into account that the rules he played under forced him to play as a mostly finesse based player (despite having the physicality to steamroll anyone he ever played again had he wanted/been permitted to like Shaq was allowed to do), that he NEVER fouled out a single game in his career, and that he averaged nearly triple the blocks per game as the current official leader (due to Blocks not being an official stat while he played), you start to realize just how special he was and that he would have dominated any Center in the history of the sport. Thanks for the great video! ✌️❤️
In addition to his 2 record-breaking NBA championships with record-breaking teams (with help from Wilt), he also brought his teams, in his career, to the NBA finals several other times. This should be taken into consideration per Wilt's contributions to his teams.
Thank you for the respect you give Wilt...he would be smirking right now seeing a young cat giving him the props he deserve. Wilt avg 48.5 minutes a game..his cardio & endurance was crazy. As great as shaq was and shaq was the man no doubt in his era after mike but prime shaq cardio was trash
Shaq was the product of NBA SuperStar Marketing. Take a guy 7’2”/325-400’ and give him have a dozen Offensive No Calls. His rebounding GOOD, not GREAT. Blocks, steals, assists.. EMBARRASSING. No shot whatsoever. It’s all about RATINGS. An alumni of City and Over 35 leagues I would mortgage my house and sell my kids to play Shaq a game of H.O.R.S.E. It’s all about ratings. They widened the Key/Lane cuz the players outgrew it. They won’t move the 3 point line, as they should have done years ago, because in today’s ridiculous RollerBasketDerby you don’t change channels cuz your team’s down by 20.
@@MellowMrMike the nba actually brought the 3 point line closer rather than farther to make it easier for shooters and bring more "excitement" to the game. They should bring back hand checking to offset that
Looking at these videos, its shocking how much bigger Wilt is than Shaq. Not only taller, but visibly wider at the shoulder, and with a larger overall frame.
@@Defender78 Yes, he was around 260 pounds early in his career, but matured to around 300 pounds in his late 20's. When I saw him he was very muscular, with no discernible gut. He definitely turned heads.
Shaq is a great player. Wilt was a once in a century player, and we still haven't seen another one. I'm old enough to have seen both of them play in their prime; and at any point, both at the same age, Wilt would have run Shaq into the ground, gone around him like Hakeem did, not to mention, Wilt would have stayed out on the court while Shaq had to take time off to rest. Wilt was a freak of nature, incredibly naturally strong, fast, and to this day, no other player has played the minutes that he did, especially since in the 60's basketball was more of a running game. Shaq just wouldn't have been able to keep up.Rodman? Are you kidding me? Too short, not strong enough, can't shoot, can't play the minutes. Wilt would have blocked his shot and dislocated Dennis' arm just like he did Gus Johnson. That's never happened with any other player, the force of blocking the ball, extending down the opposing player's arm to dislocate his shoulder. Chamberlain's strength.
Bill Russell was the most dominant NBA player ever. Two National Championships at the University of San Francisco, a final four Most Valuable Player award, an Olympic Gold Medal, 11 NBA Championships in 13 years, 8 successive NBA Championships (IN A ROW), 5 NBA regular-season MVP awards, and several NBA Finals MVP Awards. No professional sports player has achieved Bill Russell's level of success.
Great history lesson from Larry Brown. A 45 year old Wilt showed up to run with the then "Showtime" Lakers in their Prime. Pick up game. Wilt blocks Magic's shot, Magic yells foul/game and runs off the court. Wilt asks to take the 2nd and 3rd stringers, and states no one scores in the paint again. Wilt shuts down the entire Showtime starters, and he and the subs beat the holy hell out of Magic and the rest of the starters and the Lakers starters make not one shot from inside the paint. Wilt blocks supposedly 7 shots, and intimidates many more, in the game to 10.
@@jdbhatts2912 majic johnson verifies it along with the rest of the hall of famers that wilt smoked that day. They tried to get him to come to Chicago Jordan was young. Wilt declined and it wasnt until Scotty showed and the reat history that story lol
@@markpagtama7954 What is your point. Shaq was held to 0 points in the 4th game of the 2011 Eastern Conf. Semis against the Heat, and scored 2 points in the entire playoffs, and was regressing since the 2005-2006 Playoff Season. See I can find bad stats for anyone too.
Back then I believe it. There really were a lot of weaker non athletic players playing. He literally could have broke their bones. Today players are much stronger and more athletic, and that's not to take anything away from WIlt, he was one of the GOAT in my opinion. What I said is just true though.
@@adamcruz7209 very true but if Wilt were a product of todays generation he would have been even greater. His physical gifts are just unmatched by any other player the NBA has ever seen. imo
Jordan played in a time when basketball was more popular and he built a brand out of himself. He's more popular than Wilt, so people give him the GOAT status.
Shaq was most dominant in his era, but the Stilts was stronger with better ball skills, shooting ability, and he ran down court to defend. I believe if Wilt played Shaq, it would have been much worse than the Dream taking Shaq to school in the 1995 NBA Finals.
@@dontkillme5332 💯 So many people discredit Rodman because of his antics, which was the reason I liked him, but he was solid in every way but scoring. When playing Shaq, Rodman always pulled out his clamps to shut the big man down.
Can you imagine a prime 1960's Wilt playing with the 80's Showtime Lakers? Kareem was great. But he couldn't run for 48 every night. Wilt could. Man, that would have been fun to watch!
Wilt was the first NBA player I ever met. I was just a bit taller than his knee at age 10. He is the reason I am a lifelong Laker fan. Nice man, and dominant on the court.
I met him after a Finals game against the Celtics. It cannot be stressed enough that he was a "nice man". He kidded around with us boys for a minute, with the biggest smile I ever saw. We never forgot that.
I've seen three NBA centers on the street in my life. Bill Walton riding around on his bicycle in the dark in Palo Alto. Tom Boerwinkle jogging with Jerry Sloan outside the De Paul University gym in Chicago in the early 1970s and Wilt Chamberlain alone outside a restaurant in L.A. at night getting something out of his car. Wilt had an ego the size of aircraft carrier but he was a man of the people too. He never forgot where he came from. That's the other thing about him. Who he was on the street and as a man about town in L.A. after he retired from the NBA. He had a little career in the movies and television too. His major Hollywood credit was in a supporting role in _Conan the Destroyer_ (1984). I was in an indoor pickup game with some NBA players in it once. One of them was a center with title ring, but he was not a Hall of Fame player. But that's another story. My time on the floor did not last long, but I did get an offensive rebound and a put back. No, I'm not tall. Average.
Something people don't know about Wilt: He benched 500 lbs. as where Shaq benched no more than 400 lbs. Shaq would not have been able to bully Wilt in the paint. Add to that, Wilt's vertical was higher than Shaq's. Bottom line: Wilt was stronger and jumped higher than Shaq thus would have limited Shaq to nothing but hook shots.
Yeah maybe and I find that hard to believe but his eyes were rolling when he said he benched *around* 600 pounds😆. I mean a well over 300 plus pounder in Larry Allen for the Cowboys did 600 lbs, I just don't see him doing that, sorry.
@@samuellp1146 I actually fully agree with you. I think Wilt and a lot of other people told big fish stories about Wilt to make him seem not human. Watching tape of Shaq and Wilt back to back. It's clear Shaq was stronger physically. In the videos of Shaq and Wilt together, Wilt was a grown ass man and Shaq was still a kid who had some growing to do. Had that Wilt met a Lakers Shaq there would've been a totally different vibe.
@@samuellp1146 Arnold Schwarzenegger use to work out with wilt chamberlain and says he’s the strongest person he knew. Wilt was a fitness freak. Shaq was not. Wilt chamberlain was in movies with Arnold and u can clearly tell he was about fitness.
@@TwoWay-xX you and *merkyjerky* are so fixated on me making him out to not be strong. That wasn't my point. My main point was *no way* he benched around 600 lbs his eyes even rolled around when he said it. I doubt it. 600 lbs is a load of weight and with his frame long and muscular as it was, not likely.
I saw Wilt play several times when I was a boy. My father would bad mouth him before the game then spend the whole game throwing an elbow into me and saying how great Wilt was. You became a believer when you saw him play.
Me, too, Harry. I saw Wilt in the late 1960's when he had fully matured into a 290-300 pound behemoth (with no body fat), but could still run all day and get his arm far above the rim. I remember him moving other centers around like they were on roller skates. He would be just as unstoppable today as he was back then.
No doubt. Wilt just might be the true GOAT. We will never know, but Wilt was way more athletic than Shaq. Shaq was heavy and strong, but no way could Shaq keep up with Wilt. Wilt did very well in track and field...not just basketball. No disrespect to Shaq, who I have as a top 10 goat. I'm just saying that Wilt was better. Anyone that doubt's Wilt's strength, should read what Arnold said about Wilt being a lot stronger than Arnold was. That's saying something.
Shaq could never turn and face the basket and hit that little 10 ft to 15 ft. Never had an all around game. Big time dunker, that's basically it! No comparing!
If Wilt had Michael Jordans cut throat mentality, there would have been major injuries or even a few casualties during his title run. Especially if he had ran up against the team like the pistons.
It’s insane to imagine the teams would’ve had but I know for sure that bill laimbeer and Rick Mahorn wouldn’t have pushed him around as much as they did mike
To say he didn't have a winning mentality is disrespectful. He was just to nice to hurt people. Yeah he could of broken bill Russells arm. The fact he chose to be more skillful makes him a better person not someone that doesn't wanna win.
Being from the Detroit area and seeing the Bad Boys live many times and how good the Pistons were I still know that Wilt would eat Laimbeer's lunch. He was the best in my opinion.
There's a difference people say it means he had no killer instinct on the court. No it means he wanted to prove he was skillful and not just a big Brute like Shaq.
So, we are comparing the guy who literally attacked opponents with his strength in a more lenient era and had a peak of 29.7 ppg to a a guy who literally protected opponents from his strength in a less lenient era and had a peak of 50 ppg? Got it.
Pace of game was a lot faster in Wilt's era. Way more offensive possessions. Plus guys didn't really intentionally foul as much as a tactic for Wilt like they did for Shaq.
@Jkev24 oh, they intentionally fouled Wilt all right. It was just never called back then. Unless you flat out tackled somebody, they just let them play.
No were comparing a guy who is the best player on his championship team 3 times and a guy who got held to 11 points by willis reed on 1 foot, got held to 4 points by 6'9" skinny 36 yr old about to retire bill russel MULTIPLE TIMES. And yes i do think the comparison is absurd.
@Mark Pagtama you're watching on 1or 2 grainy PTZ cameras back then. You can't see anything as to what's really going on like you can in Shaq's day. They would stomp on feet (with only Chuck Taylor's to protect them), throw elbows, double team push and shoved, and yet he played every minute of every game. Ejected once, but never fouled out in his entire career because he used his skills, not just power.
For those who don't believe Wilt would dominate Shaq - especially, defensively - I have two words: BEN WALLACE. Wallace, at 6'9", blocked Shaq's shots and bothered the heck out of him on defense. Wallace was a very good defensive player but he couldn't even come close to Wilt's defensive prowess. If Ben at 6'9" could block Shaq, imagine what Wilt could've done. I wonder if Shaq could EVER manage to shoot over him. Even Kareem had to resort to his sky hook - and Wilt would occasionally block those!
I'm leaning towards Wilt. Just look at his incredible athletic prowess. A once in a century Athlete. Hearing Arnold talk about Wilt's strength is mind blowing.
Right. And superhuman endurance to boot. That's maybe his wildest attribute - to be that big, fast, coordinated and strong ... and have the stamina to dominate the entire game from tipoff to the end of the 4th. Doesn't make sense.
Wilt was special, no doubt. Never see a big man like him again in the NBA. However, taking on Ali in the ring lol? Wilt was wise to back out of the fight.
Shaq's game was limited, and that is why he always suffered against bigger players: Yao, even Rick Smits. Without the referee's favoritism, it would be no contest.
One thing about Wilt. Apparently he lifted with Schwarzenegger in his prime and he said Wilt was pound for pound with him. That kind of strength is next level and may have been enough to slow Shaq down.
Well against Russel, the best defender ever, he rebounded 55 times and scored 62 points in one game. Obviously he played in the 60s so stats u can’t really compare, but Shaq was bully ball in terms of strength, Wilt was bully ball in terms of size skill and athleticism. Yet he was even stronger than Shaq he just chose not to use that attribute as much
@@melvynsngltn27 when the Terminator says someone was out lifting body builders. You listen. People act like Wilt wasn’t a giant athletic man 😂. Just Shaq is more solid don’t mean he was stronger.
Wilt is head and shoulders above Shaq in pure athletic ability. Couple that with the fact he could bench 500 lbs. he would have moved Shaq anywhere he wanted him. If Wilt played under the same rules Shaq did we wouldn't be having this conversation. Absolutely no comparison!!
Wilt would have been good for Shaq. Wilt's background in track and field would have forced Shaq to work on both endurance and running the full 94' really well.
@@dustincobb5718 I don't think he would have helped him in terms of mentoring him. I just think it would have made Shaq choose to either run the floor better or not. He might have chosen not to do that. But having someone as big as Wilt running the floor so well would have forced Shaq to consider changes to his conditioning and prep.
@@blackcasanova7 Shaq as a rookie seemed mobile and strong. I am not sure, but you are right if he lost too much of his weight, he might have been less impactful.
No man in the history of team sport has ever impacted his chosen sport like Wilt. There will never be another like him. Shaquille O'Neal was great, one of the greatest of his time (along with Hakeem) but no way was he in the class of Wilt, may he rest in peace.
Wilt just wasn't much of a winner. Russell would get the best of him if they matched up in the finals. So, he was dominant, unless he had to play against someone with similar size and physical tools as him.
@@ericanderson7059 I personally would have said Barry Sanders and Gordie Howe. But in none of the 4 mentioned was the impact of Wilt Chaimberlain felt. They actually changed the rules of the game not protect him but to make it harder for him to excel.
@@beezum Bill Russell has explained this MANY times, saying that for the most part, his Celtics had the better TEAM from top to bottom. And that's why they won. In 1967, Wilt's Sixers had what is in the conversation for all time greatest single season TEAM. In that year, the Sixers crushed the Celtics in five games, then went on to win the championship.
Shaq is one of the few players who still mentions Wilt, and acknowledges his greatness, They BOTH dominated during their particular eras..By the way, BOTH are ( were ) super good dudes in person !!! I was EXTREMELY CLOSE friends with Wilt ( my Condo was in Brentwood, and I played Tennis with him on the Barrington Park Courts at least 30 times..) I was supposed to take him Furniture Shopping the day after he passed away... in my truck ..
what was he like as a person?.... in interview, he seems very perceptive & much more intelligent then your avg athlete. he also seems good natured. really miss he and russell.
@Mr. President I mean if Wilt played with the rules that Shaq was allowed to play Wilt would get 70 ppg.The defensive 3 sec was introduced in 01-02 though
@@efes_6921 SHAQ DIP THAT SHOULDER WHOLE LIFE HE HAS NO SKILLS ON DROP STEP OR IN POST AREA. U SHOULD GOOGLE DWIGHT HOWARD VS SHAQ AND SEE WHAT WILT TALK BOUT. SHAQ OLD DIP SHOULDER ON D12 EVERY TIME.
Yeah that’s crazy how strong he was while still having that cardio and skill. If he would have been a body builder he probably could have been on some Ronnie Coleman shi.
@@ziginaigra Basketball is not golf or tennis…it’s a team sport, and btw, calling Chamberlain, (a 2 time champion who sacrificed nearly half of his career’s most productive years to dramatically reducing his scoring in order to win) a loser, says more about you in that regard than it does him, for sure.
@@LC-jq7vn If he was on juice, he would do very well on bodybuilding. I don't know about ronnie colman level. Ronnie was bigger than that before steroids.
@@billj4525 Yeah but Ronnie worked out just to be big too before that, and it seems Will was trying to do other things in athletics. But I’m just exaggerating for the sake of argument anyways. wilt benching 600 natural is just inconceivable still tho. I’ve never seen anyone bench 600 that wasn’t like a walking juice box of tren. Chances are his muscles would respond in the top 0.5% of steroids and had way more gains than most people ever while already being naturally that strong. I sure would have loved to find out. His length though would make him not look as big and wide even if he did get stronger. Both are freaks, but I’m sure Ronnie couldn’t get anywhere close the other records he had in jumping and running.
Wilt was asked to just dunk on Bill Russell and break his hand.. He dislocated a man's shoulder by blocking his shot by accident. Imagine if Wilt actually played shaq-like aggressiveness. I don't see the Celtics or any team winning a Chip playing against Wilt
Bill Russell was the most dominant NBA player ever. Two National Championships at the University of San Francisco, a final four Most Valuable Player award, an Olympic Gold Medal, 11 NBA Championships in 13 years, 8 successive NBA Championships (IN A ROW), 5 NBA regular-season MVP awards, and several NBA Finals MVP Awards. No professional sports player has achieved Bill Russell's level of success.
Wilt was the most dominant due to his natural strength and his high endurance. He didn’t just beat them with power but by wearing them down and then overpowering them in the long run.
O'Neal is a severely overrated, idiotic man-child and wannabe thug who needed tons of help from the officials to get his points. He displayed very little talent on the court.
Wilt is arguably the greatest physical speciman of all-time. Whatever sport he got into he could've been the best at it. Unfortunately, he was at least a generation (or two) too early. It's very tough for any athlete from that era to be called the greatest because the competition wasn't even close. The money just simply wasn't there to attract the best of the best.
So how does anyone know what he'd do vs superior competition like Hakeem Kareem Shaq, Rodman, Ben Wallace. He was bullying a bunch of slouches except for Russell.
@@roastkingasaurus This is ABSOLUTELY false. He was not "bullying" anybody and they most definitely were not "slouches." Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, and (later) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were just some of the excellent competition Wilt faced. Check out highlights of their work on youtube. Not a slouch or weakass or unskilled player in the bunch. One example, for Thurmond: ruclips.net/video/HCaYyNvdFL8/видео.html. Plus Wilt played in an era where TOUGH defense was played. Shaq, less so. LeBron MUCH LESS so.
Shaq should have slapped the old man for that stunt. Shaq tries to be respectful to his elder and the elder pulls out the torque wrench handshake on him.
"He [Wilt] stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." -- KC Jones
In my opinion Wilt was the most dominant basketball player ever. Aside from that, he was a tremendous athlete and remarkably skilled for his size. And then there’s his strength. With his power and mobility he would have pushed Shaq around and likely averaged 40 pts a game and 20 rebounds in today’s NBA (plus a fair number of assists as he’d have to be guarded by 2-3 players). It’s a pity we weren’t able to witness that.
robert wadlow was 8'11" tall, I never heard anything about his athleticism, and he would have been able to stand outside the key and score at will. average 80 ppg maybe? at some point you realize...basketball is the most flawed of all popular team sports, and about on the level of professional wrestling with the fixed games/corrupt refs/corrupt league
@@johncraftenworth7847 you good buddy Robert wadlow would not do that Bc he’d probably get injured by players trying to defend him and he couldn’t move properly Bc of his size 🤦♂️
Wilt would dominate even modern players. His strength and athletics and endurance were unmatched. He was large enough and strong enough to dominate anyone today. He was also by far the most athletic big guy ever. He has more NBA records than anyone. Records that are unbreakable.
Best comparison between these two amazing guys I’ve ever seen. Edit: I said that at 2 minutes. I just finished it. My mind is blown away because of the footage and the editing🤯
Shaq was very athletic for a big man, but relied primarily on his bulk to plow over his opponents. Wilt was much more athletic, was stronger, had better ball handling skills, was much smoother and graceful and above all, had the physical endurance that could run circles around Shaq.
100%! Most people's recollection of Wilt was from his last playing days in the 1970's. I saw him play from 1967 on. The late 1960's version of Wilt was a sight to behold. He weighed almost 300 pounds (without any fat), but could still jump out of the gym and run all day long. It is laughable to think Shaq could have manhandled him.
@@isaacwittinger8617 how do you know that? I don’t know if Wilt could really bench press 700 lbs or whatever, but he was clearly very very strong. We have numerous testimonials from plenty of other people to support that.
I had the opportunity to see Wilt play in the twilight of his career (the early 70's). He was still a rebounding machine even then. His scoring dropped off significantly, but he still protected the rim. Great video. There was no player like him.
I would add, he purposefully changed his game because of looking too selfish. That's why he's still the only center to lead the league in assists. He could've kept scoring but chose not to.
@@brianwinkler8183 - I have to say that by the early 70's he had put on weight and his knees were hurting him. He could still score, but there was West and Goodrich to carry the offensive, but his defense, blocked shots and rebounding was needed. He really did pattern his game to what was needed.
Actually, his Lakers coach Bill Sharman asked Wilt to focus on defense and to score around 13 a game. It was the Celtics center model that made the Celtics so dominating for all those years. So Wilt played defense and scored 13 a game, lol. And Sharman was a great coach.
@@brjohn1960 while that is true, Wilt changed his game prior to leaving Philly. When the 76’ers won in ‘67-68, Wilt led the league in assists. He is still the only center to ever do that.
Note: the stats from Shaq's best season, as listed by Skip Bayless when he said that Shaq would have terrorized Wilt are (except for the FG%) lower than Wilt's career averages. Truly, Skip is a legend in the art of being a clown.
Keep in mind that stats don’t really translate across eras in basketball. 🙂 That said, I have no doubt that prime Shaq would be dominant in today’s NBA. Wilt would be ever better.
He's the best because he's a multi-sport athlete not just basketball. His favorite was track and field. He even played volleyball. So where does Jordan and LeBron compare there?
@@sparrow2075 i’m talking about basketball not athlete, idgaf how good wilt chamberlain was at bowling and cricket, i care who the best basketball player of all time is and i don’t even know if Wilt should be top ten
@@gaysexhaver He's the GOAT. Nobody can.beat the basketball records he achieved. He's like the Bruce Lee of basketball. He even told once that Shaq uses physicality to dominate every other player in his time but not Wilt.
Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal
- Best Regular Season Averages:
Points: 50.4 | 29.7
Rebounds: 27.2 | 13.9
Assists: 8.6 | 3.8
Field Goal: 73% | 67%
Free Throw: 61% | 62%
- Best Play-Off Averages*
Points: 35.0 | 30.7
Rebounds: 29.1 | 15.4
Assists: 9.0 | 4.6
Field Goal: 58% | 61%
Free Throw: 64% | 66%
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*At Least 10 Games Played
Maybe you could add blocks too? Wilt averaged 10.7 blocks in the 68-69 season from 13 available games.
GOD WILT RIP
REAL GOAT
TRY FIND BLOCK STATS I READ FEW YEARS AGO HE HAD 26 BLOCKS VS PISTONS AND AVERAGE ALMOST 7 BPG ENTIRE CAREER. ALSO ARNOLD NOT LIE BOUT 600 LBS , ARNY NEVER LIE BOUT BODYBUILDING CAUSE HE WON MISTER UNIVERSUM SEVERAL TIMES AND GYM IS HIS LIFE.
49 MPG
GOD STATS IN CONVERSE SHOES
@@zzzvain9710 he averaged 8.8 for his career lol chill
Simple reason Wilt would be a nightmare for Shaq and it’s what Bill Russell was saying: Wilt would force Shaq to run all game…he (and anyone else) would be so gassed they couldn’t keep up. There’s a reason he played the highest average minutes per game for a career. His most underrated physical trait was his inhuman endurance.
That wouldn’t effect him. Hakeem is on record in saying that was his goal against Shaq and he just ended up tiring himself out. Shaq had stamina…
The issue was Shaq was all mental.
Exactly! The laziness of Shaq always perturbed me. Shaq would not have been that lazy in Chamberlain’s era, the coaches would have released him if he did not toe the line.
1000%
as great as Shaq was , he could have been so much better .
You got that right. Now if you were to limit Wilt to 30 mins a game like they did with Shaq, then they might play to a draw. But Wilt’s superior fitness would mean Shaq would have to be on the floor all 48 mins. And Shaq would wilt. Geddit wilt …
The reason Wilt's accomplishments tend to be downplayed or even dismissed is because they're so unbelievable.
robert wadlow was 8'11" tall, I never heard anything about his athleticism, and he would have been able to stand outside the key and score at will. average 80 ppg maybe? at some point you realize...basketball is the most flawed of all popular team sports, and about on the level of professional wrestling with the fixed games/corrupt refs/corrupt league
the only down side about Wilt ... is that he played in a era where there were a lot fewer teams and fewer superstar players and the season was shorter ... it would have been very interesting to see him play (in his prime) in the 70's or 80's or 90's
Wilt might be the best athlete to ever walk the planet
@Clowny Derp exactly what I said, try paining attention next time when you're in english class
@@johncraftenworth7847 or try spelling paying right before mentioning English class
We helped build Wilt's house one year. I was delivering some doors to his house where each door weighed 125 lbs per door. I struggled with one, where Wilt grabbed 4 at a one time and carried them away. He was the strongest person that I have ever seen and a really nice person!
So he basically carried 500 lbs? Amazing. That whole time must've been quite the experience.
lies hahaha
@@juanpalma6595 Arnold Said that wilt would bench 575 for reps easily 🤯
@@crosfrancis8239 benching is different than carrying 4 doors weighing a total of 500 lbs. When you are benching, you have the maximum possible force you could output since the weight is aligned with the direction of the force you applied. Carrying standard sized door that is 30 inches wide and 80 inches high and weighing 500 lbs in total is just different since you cant apply the maximum force unless you are carrying it over your head.
That’s nothing. One year we helped build a house for shaq and he carried six 130 pound doors plus our entire 4 man team the length of his driveway.
Wilt Chamberlain was a modern day Goliath. Imagine Wilt with today’s nutrition and fitness. He would be even more mythical than he was in the 60’s.
Why does everyone try to compare someone with Goliath?
Goliath was BEATEN BY SOMEONE FAR SMALLER THAN HIM.
@@Spiqaroit’s about how the figure itself
His fitness was already great. Came into the game a track star. Fast, agile, strong with incredible endurance. Imagine what he'd be able to do with modern sneakers.
Imagine Wilt playing with the same rules as Shaq - the thing Wilt said that was solid: Shaq basically committed an offensive foul almost every move to the basket- the defender, standing straight up , arms up and Shaq shoulders them out of the way is an offensive foul- the defender is called for a foul on this play- that alone is what allowed Shaq to play in the NBA
Mj would not be better than all players but he would be top 5
Giant is one thing. Strong is another. Yet to hold it back to not hurt others, man, that's beyond greatness
Absolutely.
Best thing ever said about a man
UNDERATED comment!
Wilt’s weakness (if he had one, aside from FT shooting) was that he got bored easily. He always wanted a new challenge. Being the biggest, baddest strongest guy in the NBA would have been easy for him. He became a finesse player (most of the time) because it was more interesting for him.
Dude is the 🐐 for real
Just imagine if Wilt was allowed to bump the defenders with his shoulder, dunk the ball, and get an additional free throw every day.
"Bump"? More like barrel over or bulldoze them. Good thing Chamberlain was never that lazy.
that’s why in 1997 he said he would average about 60 or 75 a game and he really wasn’t lying either when he said that
@@patek9789 Bill Russell was sitting right beside him being interviewed by Ahmad Rashad, and also agreed.
Note every day, but in every play 🔥
Imagine wilt with today's prohop/ extra step. He'd be unstoppable because he could jump farther than mJ with a shorter run distance and he could get above the backboard with a standing dunk. Some people claim that wilt couldn't get to the top of the backboard I saw him do it twice once almost there the other was in college he got his hand above the backboard.
Wilt Chamberlain was 1 of 9 children and was born to parents of average height . He stood over 7'1 without shoes and weighed 327 pounds of pure muscle at his heaviest weight ever recorded. He weighed 320 by training camp in 1963 when he was 27 . Wilt was a 7 foot track and field star. He was a 3 time high jump conference champion in college , a crack quarter mile runner and held the state shot put record in Pennsylvania by the time he was only 17 years old in 1953. There is a picture of Wilt pinning a ball at the very top of the backboard in college on a block . A 23 year old rookie Wilt had a reported 45 inch max vertical in 1959 with a max reach of 13'3 and with a standing reach of 9'6 barefoot . There is even a clip of Wilt in college snatching a shot midair cleanly with one hand off a standing vertical near the top of the backboard. Wilt is far and away the strongest player in NBA history. There are so many anecdotes and stories by people who knew him of his god given and supernatural strength. Wilt could effortlessly pick up grown ass men by the fucking armpits like toddlers just like he did to Red Buttons in 1976 when he was 40 on the roast of Muhammad Ali . There is a clip of Wilt in college fighting for the ball in the post in the mid 1950's and he hooks arms with one of the opposing players, lifts him off the ground and literally swings him through the air to his left with ONE arm ! I'm talking about a 240ish pound Wilt in college in his early 20's who wasn't remotely close to as strong or as heavy as he came to be. Wilt averaged 45.8 minutes a game for his ENTIRE 14 year career in the NBA while playing at the fastest pace ever , running up and down the court an additional 30+ times than he would today in Chuck Taylors and in a far more physical league. In the 1961-62 season even averaging more minutes per game than there are in a complete game at 48.5 for all 80 games of the season with ease . He did this while the Philadelphia Warriors solely depended on him to be the top scorer, top rebounder and top shot blocker in the entire league all at once. There is not another athlete in existence of the past or present that could EVER do something like that. Wilt was a pro volleyball player for many years after he retired from basketball at the age of 37 in 1973 and is a volleyball hall of famer . Wilt still was getting serious offers to play more NBA basketball until he was 53 years old in 1989 . Wilt didn't have access to 21st century world class state of the art training facilities , shoe technology , workout and weight lifting regimes , personal trainers , dieting , pampering , couldn't spend millions every year to care for his body and didn't use steroids and PED's . Just imagine if Wilt grew up in the 21st century and not in the 1940's and 1950's . What kind of further absolutely fucking FREAK of an athlete would we be talking about then in Wilt Chamberlain ?? Truly 1 in a trillion genetics. That man was a literal biblical like Goliath walking the face of the planet
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Wilt is the biggest self saboteur in the history of sports. He could be holding every record there is to have and no one would catch him. But his mind was not that of a winner.
He didn't have a winners mentality, he had a superhero mentality and that doesn't work in sports.
@@pocohax6552 I disagree, he was on teams he had to carry too many times. That was not is fault like it is today when teams form a new click every couple of years. When he had a 'Kobe' he won the title. Two titles with two incredible teams. Basketball is a team game and he actually played a great team game most years. He led the league in scoring, rebounding and assists at one time or another, many times the scoring and rebounding parts. Even Jordan would be languishing if he didn't have a Scotty, a Rodman, or even a John Paxson. And, BTW, Wilt still holds the most records by any single individual in NBA history with 72 records. And he retired over 40 years ago! He had 968 double doubles, 227 in a row, both records. You are saying perhaps the greatest athlete in team sports history is a disappointment? Well, I'd love to do so poorly at anything!
@@pocohax6552 When he actually had a good team in Philly, they set the all-time record for wins and destroyed my Celtics in the finals. When he had a good team in LA, they broke that record.
Let's not forget that Wilt's favorite move was the fade away jump shot. A move that literally can't be guarded.
Early Wilt had his wheeling/_ 🌪 tornado toward 🧺 basket move unstoppable
Forgot wilt unstoppable low 📫 post finger roll
Wilt had the 🌪 tornado moves or 🛞 wheeling toward the basket 🧺, unstoppable early 1960s wilt
I will always consider Wilt as a player who can dominate in any era.
Michael Jordan would average 50 today. Wilt would average 70. Today's game is a parody. There's not one player who could have gotten into an arena in Wilt's day, unless he was pushing a mop.
Kobe could too
lol
@@jrr3787 u reaching my guy
@@THEEHumblePeasant Reaching for truth.
Like Bill Russell said,if you're going to defend Wilt,you have to be on court for 48 minutes,it's going to be hell for Shaq
You all should listen to bill
It never ceases to amaze me what you wilt haters “can’t or won’t” see when you choose not to look
Even early on, Shaq couldn't bump and bully Wilt, it just wouldn't work - he only did this to smaller guys. Wilt was kind but could be dangerous if he wanted
Wilt has more tools than Shaq. Wilt has a nice fade away shot while Shaq is mostly a low post beast.
@@TellenJones and most of Shaq's were illegal!
Wilt was as close to a super hero that existed. Wilts abilities go way way beyond basketball.
Yeah. Seems like he held back a bit while in the league.
I kind of wonder if Wilt would have been better if he had a guy like Kobe as his teammate. I feel like Kobe would have brought the nasty out of Wilt by constantly challenging him. I feel like no one challenged Wilt and that's why he never really reached the level he could have.
@@Jkev24 Wilt would have kicked Kobe’s ass and told him to STFU if he tried some of the $hit we’ve all heard about but Kobe wouldn’t have tried that with Wilt. First of all Kobe Bean was a Philly area guy and his father Jelly Bean, from Philly an NBA player as well educated Kobe about Wilt, THE Philly legend of all time, as probably did everyone else and Kobe is on record with big respect for Wilt as his GOAT. Some people get it twisted bc they really don’t know about Wilt. Nobody F’d with him. You think Kobe would? ruclips.net/video/oqo67-kp7-I/видео.html
@@edbea2 Chris Childs is 6'2 ...
Guy punched Kobrick 3 times in mouth and story since then is over for me. I saw enuf. Media try to sell jordan kobe lebronze ...presenting them like some gods...but in reality just google how MJ look down in floor ground when 1997 on 50 goat ceremony Wilt stare him in the eye and approach to him.
Wilt is alnost 7'2 guy next to Shaq was like Terminator Machine body...when I saw clip how he shook hand of Shaq whole O'neal body trembles and eyes of Shaq told me he filled his pants and sox with fear.
that's why I call him the goat over jordan it's sad no one gives him the respect he deserves.
@@zzzvain9710 Yep! Chris played for my Knicks and didn't take shit from ANYBODY!!
Wilt Chamberlain is basically the NBA’s ultimate tall tale, but everything that was too unbelievable to be true actually was.
No, Wilt was not. SHAQ WAS
@@TheHubeef ask shaq to shoot farther than a free throw. Ill wait.
One more time: how many fucking rules did the change to hinder Shaqs lazy ass?
@@TheHubeefhahahahaha yes we'll believe your take. 😂
@@TheHubeef Tall tale is right. Shaq was the most physically dominant player in the history of the NBA. He would not have to run after Wilt. All he has to do is stay within 7 feet of the rim.
We must remember that Wilt Chamberlain actually was real. That he's not some myth, because he sure seems like it. The man was unreal, superior in so many ways.
We have to pretend he’s a myth so clowns can argue if MJ or LBJ are the GOATs 🤫
@@justmyluck9619 a lot of footage has surfaced that really puts it in perspective. Wilt Chamberlain Archive channel has some gems. The man was a freak of nature.
hes so real its unreal
@@arthurmorris1813 I watched him play hundreds of games. Sometimes I had to rub my eyes because I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I watched an older Wilt tussle with a prime Kareem. At this stage, Kareem was a touch better. But there was game six playoff game on the road against the world champion Bucks and Kareem. I saw an older Wilt get totally fired up, dominating the game in the second half on BOTH ends of the court. The Lakers won that game and went on to win the championship.
As a kid, I met him once, after the Lakers won game 2 of the Finals against the Celtics in 1969. Tallest, most massive man I have ever seen. To this day. He was really a sweet man, joking around with us boys. We never forgot how nice he was to us.
@@watchmanonthewall14 that's amazing dude. Wish we could've seen that. Question... do u think the NBA is more talented today than ever before? Like collectively? That's a hot argument I'm curious of ur take
Wilts ultimate legacy - the most physically gifted athlete of all time.
I have him there with Bo Jackson, Bo was a freak also.
Usain bolt would like to have a word
20,000
@@aryavart296 usaine bolt is a great athlete but all he has shown is his ability to sprint. Je probably would've been an epic bball player
@@aryavart296 bolt is faster at sprinting, that's it. Wilt literally beats him in everything else, including endurance running. We will see someone faster than Bolt in our lifetime. We won't be seeing another Wilt, maybe your great grandkids will.
Wilt once scored 62 against Russell. And also 55 rebounds against him. Those numbers against the greatest defender are just God like.
Though less in the playoffs.
Russell was 6'9 maybe 215-220... he should have done that!He wouldn't score that on Shaq
What you expect when you playing against mfs a foot shorter than you🤷🏾♂️ we seen shaq dominate legends
@@marquiseeldridge5048 thank you
Wilt would've learned to take Shaq away from the basket and work him out there. Wilt had an MJ-type fadeaway that was good. Wilt would've also had to deal with Shaq's weight, which would have worn him down as the game progressed. All of that what Wilt could bench and being so strong wanes when you have to lug 300+ pounds up and down the floor for 48 minutes.
It’s not a question of “could” it’s a question of how humiliating it would be for Shaq.
"Wilt Chamberlain was indeed the most dominant player ever" Shaquille O'Neal
Shaq did say that, then a few weeks ago he ran his mouth saying he was more dominant than Wilt.
@@sethdoddridge7806 Did he not just say that he was a better Laker than Wilt? There's more of an argument for that, 3 FMVPs vs 1 for Wilt for example is a strong metric.
Also u can't really say who was more dominant bc there's a big eye test component to that and we have the tiniest sliver of recorded Wilt games to work from, so that's pretty much just Shaq's opinion not a concrete statement of fact.
@@lx4half751 I'm pretty sure he said he was the most dominant player of all time, referring to himself. I also would agree he was a better Laker considering he spent more time than Wilt did with the Lakers. But as to who dominated the league more, there is no question that Wilt Chamberlain dominated like no other. His records still seem untouchable, even 50 years later. Shaq was neither more dominant offensively nor defensively, as great a player as he was.
@@sethdoddridge7806 yep he said I would Bust wilts ass
@@AMurr45 wilt would run circles around him lol 😆
Wilt held back, Shaq didn't. Shaq was very skilled, but relied mostly on physicality and that wouldn't go as far with Wilt. If Wilt can block a sky hook, he can block Shaqs jump hook. You just can't "out brute" Wilt, so you're gonna need skill.
Not just a sky hook the Sky Hook lol
@@carlreed6186 Right! "Thee" sky hook 🐐13
If you truly think shaq wouldn’t “out brute” wilt, the conversation can end right there. You’re thinking with your heart and bias instead of logically.
Shaq skilled? At what?
@@herogibson Did you miss the 200 pound difference in benching... You ever go heads up against someone with 30% more strength and same height? because you don't sound like you have.
Learned one thing about Wilt from this video I didn't know before. He was a gentle giant who avoided abusing his strength.
Gentle giant? Stop💀
Not true. He was an asshole, but the NBA rules during Chamberlain's time didn't allow the physicality.
Wilt was at least 60 pounds heavier than any center in that era and he used that to his advantage. In my opinion Shaq is more dominant than wilt by miles. Not even close.
I heard he actually broke a guys arm by blocking his shot
@@itsmesteve1081 Dislocated his collar bone. Gus Johnson cupped the ball to dunk it in Wilt's face. Wilt grabbed the ball in one hand while Johnson still had it in his hand, and drove the ball into Johnson's (6 foot 6, solid muscle) Chest and both to the floor in one motion. Gus had dunked one earlier and showed off to Wilt. One of the few times Wilt actually took it out on another player. Gus was flattened and carried off the floor with a dislocated shoulder, only time a player attempting a Dunk had his shoulder dislocated.
From Billy Cunningham, former 76's HOF player and later coach.
Wilt is so often remembered as the biggest and strongest center on the planet (which he was) that is easy to overlook how skilled he was with his shot and moves regardless of his strength and size. He could have relied exclusively on those and he would have been probably as much of a dominant force as he was but he took it to a whole other level of skill and athleticism.
That was the lethal combination that made him unstoppable. It's almost literally like playing in a league of 10 year olds as an adult. Those 100 points start making much more sense after you watch a few highlights...
Wilt is criminally underrated. He would kill in any era. More so in those after his own. He was basically a solo act, imagine if he played in an age with isolation and spacing. His PG would avg 15 assists in his sleep.
not only that, but playing in the NO 3pt line, where teams would sag in to double team, and run the risk of being called for ZONE DEFENSE
I would put him with 4 shooters in today's game. And let teams choose between double teaming and let him rack up assists with kickouts, or let him score 1v1.
@@demonkingbadger6689 several seasons, Wilt had 6-11 Nate Thurmond F and 6-10 Wayne Hightower F, along with 6-0? Hal Greer PG and still put up monster numbers. he was indeed a freak of the game, never to be equalled.
@@BigSkyCurmudgeon yeah, i just thinking of what i would do with him in today's game. At the very least i do see him 25-30 ppg, 6-8 apg, and leading in rpg, and blocks per games by significant margin. Probably more that point wise, by i am trying to conservative. I would assume it to be MVP caliber, in any case.
Not to mention probably a yearly DPOY candidate.
@bennett The average fan today hasn't even seen Jordan play basketball, they don't respect Wilt for shit.
Wilt played during a time when he was vilified for being so big. Shaq's time he was cheered for his size. Can you imagine Wilt playing while not being criticized but cheered. Wilt would dominate Shaq in any era.
Wilt would get owned by Zydrunas Ilgauskas. At his current age.
@@respectedlocalgentleman7108 Wow, you don't have a clue of what you're talking about.
No he wouldn't, wilt woulda held his own in that era too don't get me wrong but it'd be kinda like ali fighting tyson both in their primes...
@@respectedlocalgentleman7108 😑
@@T-roc57 na bruh Wilt was too strong, too fast, and too skilled for Shaq
Nobody loves Goliath!!! The media would have torn Wilt apart if he played bully ball like Shaq.
I loved Shaq, but Wilt is in the Goat conversation with Michael and Kareem.
2 championships and like 7 losses with no fmvps cmon man
Sorry, Jordan is GOAT and its not close.
@@brianstolt3141 well lebron and Jordan are pretty close like neck and neck
What about bill???
@@brianstolt3141 Preach 🙏🏾
If you ever saw Wilt play live, particularly before the knee injury, (and I was fortunate enough to see him), the guy was incredible. Fast, strong and amazingly agile. Shaq would likely be competitive early, but Wilt would run him ragged by the middle of the second quarter and score at will against. Taking nothing away from Shaq, but Wilt was just that good.
I'm old enough to have seen Wilt play in his later years. In his mid-30s in his final NBA years with the Lakers. Never have I seen such a graceful yet extremely powerful player with cat-like quickness and agility at his height and size, and never will I see another one again. This in his twilight years at that. With all due respect to Shaq, it's comparing apples to oranges. In my opinion, Wilt was the best natural athlete to ever play the game at center, and arguably the best athlete to ever play the game period.
Again; you said it so i guess i don’t have to!
I was born 1960 and enjoyed watching Shaq, Wilt and Kareem all in their prime. I agree. Wilt was the most athletic, Shaq was the most physically dominating (intimidating) but I reckon Kareem was the best center.
@@fishpants3877 how many rules did the NBA change to hinder the games of Kareem Jabbar & Shaq oneal! You might want to keep that in mind when you say who the greatest Center is!
@@morrisparrish76 Oh, Okay thanks...Greatest center of all time: Kareem!!!
@@fishpants3877 you are entitled to your opinion! (Even if the numbers & facts ain’t with you! Example: Kareem has the 29th best rebounding average in NBA history!)
I wish Wilt hadn’t passed away in 99’. I feel like he was a figure that Shaq could look up to and keep pushing himself physically in shape. You can tell that Wilt is a bit jealous on the offense that someone like shaq could use in the 90s. Wilt couldn’t lower his shoulder, back people down, it was all considered a charge back in the day. Both of these guys changed the game for all centers following them.
Wilt didn't respect Shaq wilt shot his fadeaway 60 percent or more of the time to prove he was skillful and not just another tall guy. Shaq was a bully and shoulder charged people. Wilt Chamberlain wouldn't teach him because of it. Refs didn't let him do it. Wilt believed if your big enough to hurt them you beat them with skill not brawn. Shaq failed his test. Hakeem on the other hand had he asked I think wilt would've helped him.
@@choice12ozborne Wouldn't you be jealous you got a guy in MJ that doesn't own the record books can't jump higher and isn't stronger. Then the media always short changes your 3 point range. Then underrates the skills you learned from the globetrotters plus your natural ability. Then they all call him better than you and all he done was be born in a later era with more people and more money. In ways I think many older players are jealous of that, but they also realize the more money the young guys make the higher there pensions get so they take a back seat and let them talk there trash. Wilt didn't and rightly so. He felt he was the greatest NBA player and so do many others like me. That said I watched all Mjs games. I'm from Illinois there both great but Mjs not the athlete wilt was and he isn't the better overall player. People underrated wilts offense because he sucked at free throws. Today he wouldn't it would be something he practiced growing up. Wilt felt I can just dunk and slam free throws growing up so why perfect it would you I wouldn't.
@@dustincobb5718 I think Wilt had somewhat a sense of respect for Shaq cause he recognized the brute force of Shaq’s playstyle, Wilt had always came off as arrogant so maybe he doesn’t show or express his respect of others as much as others do
@@housesports000 no wilt was clear he didn't respect Shaqs bully game he respected skillful play. Wilt didn't have the luxury of no two hand checks and less stricter refs like Shaq. Wilt didn't have a three point line to showcase his half court hookshot. Wilt knew if he'd been a bully like Shaq he'd break bill Russell Kareem and others he chose to choose skill over being a brute. He did an interview about it. He also in a video showed why he wasnt allowed with others to play like Shaq.
@@choice12ozborne Fewer teams doesn't mean what you seem to believe it does. Back then the talent was more concentrated and the rivalries more intense as a result. The NBA since, with all the teams they have now, is a more watered down league, with watered down talent, which includes many players that shouldn't even be in the league, even though unlike back in the day, players now are allowed to make a mockery out of the rule book in that they can carry the ball blatantly, double dribble, and pick up the ball and travel their asses off while take up to 5 and 6 steps which you can see for yourself watching Harden and Curry taking step back jumpers where they never stop stepping back.
I saw him play with the philadelphia
Sixers in the 60's, and I couldn't
Believe what my eyes, saw.
Never seen, someone like him!
Neither could anybody else
@@morrisparrish76 very true,
My friend. We will never see
Someone like him. Wilt
Chamberlain, was a one of
A kind.
@@juanjuan799 answering the question as asked, I’d say: that’s about like asking if a lion would dominate a lamb!
@@juanjuan799wow, How old were you now?
@@ISkipNeckDay I saw wilt chamberlain, in 1964, at the
Old Sports arena, in exposición
Park, next to Los Angeles
Colosium. At that time in 1964,
I was 13 years old, when I saw
Him, play against Jerry West,
Elgin Baylor, and the Los
Angeles Lakers. Then I saw
Him each year at the spors
Arena, until the 1968 - 69
Season when he became A
Los Angeles Laker.
Wilt was inhumanly strong. He would manhandle Shaq on the defensive end and out finesse him on the offensive end.
He was inhumanly strong in his mind. His tales are the only thing much taller than he is.
Early 1960s wilt would've push Shaq out of the paint area of the basket 🧺
@@johnarcher9480 Listen to Arnold Schwarzenegger talk about Chamberlain's strength:
"Wilt Chamberlain would be in the gym - we eventually ended up doing a movie together, Conan the Destroyer," Schwarzenegger said. "I was a big fan of him because he came to the gym, he would do a tricep extension - the big guys, the strongest guys would do 120 pounds, let’s say - he would come and do 150, 170 pounds. That’s how strong he was. I remember that he lifted me up with one arm like nothing."
@@BobSoltis1been verified that he made that up was both hands. Was to sell a movie.
@@huwdavies-tallon3305 Verified by who? When? Please provide the evidence.
I really wish Wilt had lived to see Shaq’s success. I think their relationship would have really gotten better the older they both got. Rest In Peace, Big Dipper. You left us far too soon.
I doubt it. Shaq is, to this day, an arrogant, egotistical punk who gets by on his size. The fact that he actually said he would have "whipped Wilt's ass" shows the depth of his narcissism and delusion.
I have Slam dunk magazine from october 1999 kept in my closet, I bought it when I was 15 years old, I already knew Wilt and he was my hero, when I read the obituary I was devastated. Wish I could have ever met him before died and take a photo and his autograph.
He would have gotten more bitter and seemed such a better old man in the 90s. Just after he died Shaq won 3 straight championships and an MVP Wilt would have hated that.
@@huwdavies-tallon3305
I don’t think that would have happened at all. In the last couple of years of his life, he was giving Michael Jordan the credit he deserved, so I think he would have done the same for Shaq.
There will never be another Wilt again. He was the greatest athlete in basketball history.
Greatest multi athlete ever
Giannis
I guess even tho he was going against 5'9 athletes
@@amarihudson5935 🧢 and yk that
@@king_omilly maybe not the 50pt average. But Giannis is wilt literally...
Shaq struggled against Rodman, so I can only imagine what Chamberlain would've done to him.
exactly
@@pdfbanana rodman held Shaq to 0 points multiple times. They also crossed paths when he was at the Pistons. When Shaq smacks Robertson in the video you can see Rodman in the frame 1:30
Wilt would've scored on both of them.
Also Ben Wallace and before that Hakeem. Shaq was a beast but if he struggled against the guys we just mentioned, imagine him going up against Wilt or Russell!
For reference, prime Ewing was dominated by an older Kareem who was well past his prime. The same older Kareem also held his own against a prime Hakeem. On the other hand, an older Wilt held his own against prime Kareem! That and the stats themselves answer most of the questions as to how he would fare in any era! The only real question I have is would he still average so many minutes and 50 ppg in a season? Other than that I know he would dominate like no one’s business.
Rodman woulda made Wilt struggle too. Rodman was a master of the mind.
Wilt gets overlooked in the goat discussion all the time.
It's because his records and stats are so stupidly ridiculous, that some people question if they're even real.
Also most not on film.
Wilt was the greatest athletic specimen ever to play the game.. 7'1, official Olympics vertical of 48", unofficially 52", beat jim brown in a sprinting race, and could bench 600 lbs.... never an athlete in history that had those stats especially at 7'1"...
OVERATED wild is zero in freethrw
“Specimen” ….. like why? Lol
Nah he prob had a 36 inch vertical at most some people like mj lavine and vince carter have a vertical of about 48 inches and they could jump much higher
@@damiank5976 but they arent 7 feet tall
@@Andrew_-_- yeah and they all clearly jump way higher than him
Playing every minute of every game sounds mythical... Oh, and he did it while wearing Chuck's. Wilt is the greatest athlete of all time. Bo Jackson is in the conversation but Wilt was basically a god walking among mortals.
Awesome & detailed point of view.
Cheers
Secretariat was the greast athlete,then Wilt ,Bo Jackson & Carl Lewis ..Carl was competing & winning gold in all his events.Honorable mention Hearchel Walker & Edwin Moses & Muhammad Ali.
@@richardmorris7063 I didn't know we were including non-humans. I'd go with Togo the husky dog if those are the rules. Or maybe some random cheetah in Africa.
@@dmcgjr Well he was included in the greatest athletes of the 20 the century.
Until somebody else can make the all-star games in two different sports in the same year, everybody else just looks up to Bo.
Sorry.
I’m so glad you focused a bit on Wilt’s minutes played. I see so many basketball channels saying things like “If Giannis (or any dominant inside player) played for a full game, their adjusted stats would be the same as Wilt.”
Key word: IF. No one has shown that level of cardio and endurance in NBA history, especially as a 7footer. Sure, you can play a guy that long, but would they be as efficient as wilt, especially when fatigue starts setting in?
People just take Wilts cardio for granted, when really it’s one of the most impressive things about his career.
Exactly.
Hakeem Olajuwon from 1986 season to 1996 regular season avg from 37 to 41 minutes per game. David Robinson from 1989 to 1995 r. s, avg from 37 to 41 minutes, Patrick Ewing from 1988 to 1996 from 37 to 39 minutes and Dikembe Mutombo from 1991 to 2001 from 34 to 39 minutes. Nice efford from those gentleman. But I agree with you about Wilt 100%
@@vdLeo-je6os thank you for these minute breakdowns. My issue was, according to commentators, that if the only thing separating all star big men from Wilt’s numbers was minutes, then all the players you listed should have similar stat lines to Wilt.
No doubt their stamina was impressive to play that long at a high level in the NBA, but what Wilt was doing was other-worldly.
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Only guy to come close in recent years was Allen Iverson. LeBron is the highest in 30yrs at 38min. The lg avg. I think is below 30mpg
Wilt is literally the only *LEGEND* in ABA/NBA history. Dude doesn't even get mentioned. The most dominant player of all time. They had to change the rules of the game because he was THAT good.
It always cracks me up when people have the GOAT conversation and never even mention Wilt, Bill, or Kareem.
Those people don’t know WTF they’re talking about
Those people need❤their heads examined !
People have no memories.
I've watched NBA during 90s, my teen years, and Shaq was my favourite player then (and probably is now, as an all-time fav) and having said that I think Wilt would break him.
Unless you’re in your 60s I doubt you’ve ever seen wilt play…. Just highlights. So your opinion is well…irrelevant
@@aztronomy7457 I saw Wilt play in the 1960's and remain a NBA fan to this day. I'm not saying Wilt was stronger than Shaq, but he was incredibly strong and clearly the strongest player on the court every time I saw him, moving other centers around at will.. I see no way Shaq could have bullied him, especially at Wilt's fully matured weight of 290-300 pounds in the late 60's.. As to skill level, Wilt had far greater offensive skill than Shaq. He had a very good fadeaway jumpshot and several clever moves around the basket. Wilt was also an incredible leaper for a 7 footer..much greater than Shaq. He has to rank as one of the top shot blockers ever. Finally, he never came out of the game...his endurance was super-human. Shaq averaged almost a full quarter fewer minutes per game.
@@saverioman I just can't give too much credit to a guy who won 0 championships when there were only 9 teams in the league...
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He continues to absorb all hate yet he changed the rules. HE IS GREATNESS. HE IS WILT CHAMBERLAIN.
Wilton Norman Chamberlain was the G.O.A.T. Shaq was good but no way is he as great as Wilt. The three greatest centers:
1. Wilt
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Russell
Shaq had a bunch of rules changed for him too
Wat workouts did wilt do? And how can I be almost strong as him?
@@terrelparris8642 I'd swap Shaq for Hakeem.
Wilt was the only player to block Kareem Jabbar's sky hook first. Twice in the same play against Kareem Jabbar shooting for the basket on the next attempt.
Jabber lucky he didn't play against early 1960s wilt , early 1960s wilt would've score 50s points & 🚫 block 🚚 truckloads of jabber skyhook shots
I doubt Wilt was the only player to ever block it. That’s sort of a legendary type of statement. Most likely it was blocked by a few different guys at one time or another
That is so true.
Wilt Chamberlain was the Jim Thorpe of basketball…there will never be another like him
Excellent analogy
That’s a slight to wilt
@@morrisparrish76 then you’ve no idea who Thorpe was
@@Jettplayzgames I know who he WAS NOT…wilt chamberlain
Who's Jim Thorpe? Some relative of the famous swimmer, Ian Thorpe?
50 years later and his name still carries over to this generation wilt chamberlain was special
Wilt was Babe Ruth. One of a kind talent. Maybe Russell was a better team player and leader, but Wilt had talent like no other. Doubt we'll ever see the likes of him again. Larger than life in a game of giants.
Agreed, Wilt had sprinter's speed, incredible strength and probably the GOAT.
@@chucknchar He would have been the GOAT, but he choked too many big games, mostly because of his appalling shooting from the line. 70% and he might have had a half dozen rings. The FTs cost lots of points, it allowed the opposition to climb all over him, and I think most importantly it demoralized him and his team. It's kind of like if Tiger Woods had blown a lot of majors by missing a lot of short putts. FTs are a part of the game like any other. His failure to solve his FT problem counts against him big time because it cost a lot of big games and championships. I didn't believe it at first, but if you closely examine the record it's there. Golf's my game, and he reminds me of Greg Norman and Tom Weiskoff--biggest talents out there, but with a block that kept them from closing the deal. All three famously nice and good sports about losing. Guys like Russell, Woods, and Nicklaus had a kind of ruthless self-confidence. Wilt didn't have that. A complex guy. Arrogant and insecure and a pleasure seeker. Cared too much about his image, how he looked. A lot of supremely talented people suffer a lack of grit. Think he could have solved that FT problem had he had more. He just gave up and it infected his overall game. Gave him a loser mentality. Still my favorite player. Had he had a tough, fatherly coach, I think he could have won everything.
I agree with this. Wilt is like Ruth because they set a standard and revolutionized their sports.They were glorified because there were non like them before they came along. But now...we've seen a lot of 7 footers doing crazy things....Maybe not the overall freak athlete like Chamberlain but close. We've seen a bunch of dudes being able to hit the ball a mile. They were the prototypes and made people rethink what a player should be. Great respect to both of them.
@@hoanpham4545 And probably like Ruth personality. I don't think Ruth was a particularly great team leader--he was just a supreme ballplayer and talent. He loved the spotlight and being the best--also a big time womanizer. But it was baseball, and his game didn't really have to integrate much with his teammates. He also had the good fortune of being with the Yankees and being in NY--the biggest media market. But he was arrogant and a party boy, got into lots of conflicts. But it being baseball he could get away with it as long as he brought that huge bat.
Ruth, Gretzky and Wilt all legends and all trash overated playing against shits
Wilt is the only player to have won the lifetime achievement award twice
People dont realize Wilt is the most physically amazing athlete all time
He’s not
They don’t want to realize
@@arnellsmith then WTF is
@@morrisparrish76 Brock Lesnar, Usain Bolt, Lebron, Bo Jackson, Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe
Old man strength even worked on Shaq. Wilt almost pulled his arm out the socket 🤣🤣🤣 Shaq looked flustered
Shaq struggled with skilled big men like Yao, Smits, and Olajuwan. In my opinion, he would have struggled against Chamberlain too. Wilt could match or neutralize Shaq's strength, and then Wilt's cardio and skill would be too much for Shaq. We will never know for sure so it's just fun to conjecture
I couldn't have said it any better, Olajuwan consistently outplayed Shaq, and Yao more than held his own against Shaq. Wilt was more skilled, superb athlete, and arguably the greatest basketball player of all time. Shaq was definitely good, but not in the same league as Wilt. Shaq is too one dimensional.
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Shaq was 17-11 vs Hakeem.
Hakeem vs Shaq: 19.7ppg, 9.2reb, 2.9ast, 1.5stl, 2.1blk
Shaq vs Hakeem: 24ppg, 12.1reb, 4.0ast, 0.8stl, 2.2blk.
Shaq outscored Hakeem 16 of the 28 times they played. Out rebounded him 20 of the 28 times they played.
Please nephew, explain to me how Shaq was consistently outplayed by Hakeem.
@@Mr.Dobalina113 shhhhhh lol you're not post to spit facts
@@Mr.Dobalina113 Dude, watch the games. Hakeem made Shaq look stupid in the Finals
@@quincebanks1732 there was no Yao back in the 60's and the 70's
At 3:31 of this video when they first met and they shook hands with Wilt being well past his prime and Shaq as a rookie, Wilt almost yanked his arm out of socket. That was the strength of Wilt
Like Trump yanking Putin in when they shook hands hahaha
@@Ebstarrunner 😂😂
More like a sad old man grabbing a younger guy really hard to tell himself he still has it. While Shaq was going for a nice leisurely friendly handshake.
Shaquille was primarily a brute. Wilt was an extremely skilled basketball player.
You know nothing
@@coloneldusty4476 he said nothing that wasn't true..
Shaq had skills to. Of course all Shaq's highlights were dunks but he had a hook shot jump hook great passing skills
Dusty-I know the game of basketball and it’s history very well. Likely more than you do.
Shaquille did not have the wide-ranging game that other great centers did, like Wilt, Kareem, and even Robert Parish and Bill Walton. Shaquille did score more than Robert and Bill but he didn’t have the perimeter and passing game that they did.
Joshua-yes, I agree that he did have those other skills a bit, but not to the degree that the other more well-rounded setters did. Olojowan and David Robinson may have been more well-rounded as well.
@@joshuasussman4020 Being more skilled doesn't always make you a better player. Kobe Bryant is way more skilled offensively than Lebron James. Lebron is still the better basketball player with how he effects his teammates and making the team win. Hence Hakeem is way more skilled than Shaq but is he a better overall NBA player than Shaq career wise hell no.
Wilt was the greatest athlete that ever walked the face of this earth,no one has ever combined a mix of size,power,strengh,explosiveness,stamina like him,never.
He was literally not human.
You left out speed.
You literally don't know the meaning of literally.
Preach
and coordination as well, by the way he wouldn't even train when he was young
I believe he was an alien that was like "huh, this game looks fun"
Anyone who thinks Wilt wouldnt dominate today is delusional. He was an absolute juggernaut
Wilt can't shoot free throws has no handles and chokes in the big games. Wilt was not an intelligent basketball player.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Okay lets get REAL. A HUGE part of basketball is a FUNDAMENTAL SKILL called free throw shooting. Wilt SUCKED at it ESPECIALLY WHEN IT MATTERED MOST. Lets look at Wilts history of choking in big games. 1960 playoffs against the Celtics, Game 1, 8/14 from the FT line. Game 4, 6/11. Game 6, 10/16. 1961 Wilt got swept in the first round by Syracuse. Game 2 , 6/10, Game 3, 7/14. 1964 Finals vs the Celtics Game 3, Wilt goes 3/8 (38%) from FT line. 1965 EDF vs Celtics, during Game 7, 6-13 (46%) at the line. In 1966, the number 1 seed Sixers host the Celtics, and are trailing 2-1 in the series. Wilt only has 15 points, 1-4 from the FT line. In Game 5, Wilt missed 17 free throws (8/25) in an 8 points loss. CHOKE!!! Game 7 of 1968 Finals Wilt shot 6-15 (40%) at the FT line and lost. 1969 Game 7 finals, Jerry West drops 43-13-12, and the Lakers still lost. What happened? Wilt dropped only 18 points and went 4-13 (30%) at the FT line, and the Celtics only won by two points. CHOKE!!!! 1970 against the Knicks (no Bill Russel and Celtics to blame) Willis Reed injured, and Game 7, with the NBA Finals at stake Wilt goes 1-11 (9%) FT shooting and they lose. CHOKE again. 1973 finals. Game 2 - Wilt has 5 points 1-9 (11%) FT shooting, Game 3 - Wilt has 5 points and 1-4 (25%) FT shooting. Game 5 - Wilt shoots 5/14 (36%) Wilt was the greatest CHOKER in playoff history. That is what he is the greatest at.
@@doioioi-jw3cs Wilt Chamberlain vs Shaquille O'Neal
- Best Regular Season Averages:
Free Throw: 61% | 62%
- Best Play-Off Averages
Free Throw: 64% | 66% They both suck at free throws, but Wilt is worse.
He would be a force for sure, but his domination would be no where near what it used to be, not a chance.
He would if he had today’s Skillset, but if you talking about a 60s Wilt there’s just no way possible. You are the delusional one
Wilt is the most dominant and IMO greatest individual player in Basketball history. He doesn’t have as many rings as Russell or as many Scoring titles or Finals MVPs as Jordan, or the Psychological warfare skills or Basketball IQ of Bird, but no single player has dominated their competition on both sides of the ball so completely and set as many records (most which still stand today) in the process.
When you take into account that the rules he played under forced him to play as a mostly finesse based player (despite having the physicality to steamroll anyone he ever played again had he wanted/been permitted to like Shaq was allowed to do), that he NEVER fouled out a single game in his career, and that he averaged nearly triple the blocks per game as the current official leader (due to Blocks not being an official stat while he played), you start to realize just how special he was and that he would have dominated any Center in the history of the sport.
Thanks for the great video! ✌️❤️
Thank you! 👍
Never fouled out and he was only ever ejected ONCE, amazing
In addition to his 2 record-breaking NBA championships with record-breaking teams (with help from Wilt), he also brought his teams, in his career, to the NBA finals several other times. This should be taken into consideration per Wilt's contributions to his teams.
Thank you for the respect you give Wilt...he would be smirking right now seeing a young cat giving him the props he deserve. Wilt avg 48.5 minutes a game..his cardio & endurance was crazy. As great as shaq was and shaq was the man no doubt in his era after mike but prime shaq cardio was trash
Thank you. Appreciate it 👍
Shaq was the product of NBA SuperStar Marketing. Take a guy 7’2”/325-400’ and give him have a dozen Offensive No Calls. His rebounding GOOD, not GREAT. Blocks, steals, assists.. EMBARRASSING. No shot whatsoever. It’s all about RATINGS. An alumni of City and Over 35 leagues I would mortgage my house and sell my kids to play Shaq a game of H.O.R.S.E.
It’s all about ratings. They widened the Key/Lane cuz the players outgrew it. They won’t move the 3 point line, as they should have done years ago, because in today’s ridiculous RollerBasketDerby you don’t change channels cuz your team’s down by 20.
@@MellowMrMike the nba actually brought the 3 point line closer rather than farther to make it easier for shooters and bring more "excitement" to the game. They should bring back hand checking to offset that
LeBron never played a full season.
@@jeremytucker8853 he did
Looking at these videos, its shocking how much bigger Wilt is than Shaq. Not only taller, but visibly wider at the shoulder, and with a larger overall frame.
I was just peeping that myself I’m like bro is in dresss shoes right there to and is still the tallest out of Shaq and all of them
I saw Wilt on the Santa Monica pier in the late 1990's. He was incredibly tall and muscular...a true giant.
1st-half of his career, Wilt was lanky, but he was beefed up in the second half, espiecally when with the Lakers.
@@Defender78 Yes, he was around 260 pounds early in his career, but matured to around 300 pounds in his late 20's. When I saw him he was very muscular, with no discernible gut. He definitely turned heads.
Way quicker, thinner and more athletic too, much better leaping ability.
Wilt was so much better at the game of basketball itself. He was so skilled and his fadeaway was a work of art. Shaq just brute strength.
Shaq is a great player. Wilt was a once in a century player, and we still haven't seen another one. I'm old enough to have seen both of them play in their prime; and at any point, both at the same age, Wilt would have run Shaq into the ground, gone around him like Hakeem did, not to mention, Wilt would have stayed out on the court while Shaq had to take time off to rest. Wilt was a freak of nature, incredibly naturally strong, fast, and to this day, no other player has played the minutes that he did, especially since in the 60's basketball was more of a running game. Shaq just wouldn't have been able to keep up.Rodman? Are you kidding me? Too short, not strong enough, can't shoot, can't play the minutes. Wilt would have blocked his shot and dislocated Dennis' arm just like he did Gus Johnson. That's never happened with any other player, the force of blocking the ball, extending down the opposing player's arm to dislocate his shoulder. Chamberlain's strength.
so you were born in 1959 ?
@@deeworldz5086 he got a anime pfp talking about seeing Wilt in his prime lmao you making us Wilt fans look bad
@@z4bando421 Ong 😹
If shaq played in the 60s he would have destroyed wilts records
@@z4bando421 what’s wrong with anime ?
Wilt is the most dominant ATHLETE to have ever lived. End of story.
Hes the real goat
@@jeremyoverton1650 I agree
Bill Russell was the most dominant NBA player ever. Two National Championships at the University of San Francisco, a final four Most Valuable Player award, an Olympic Gold Medal, 11 NBA Championships in 13 years, 8 successive NBA Championships (IN A ROW), 5 NBA regular-season MVP awards, and several NBA Finals MVP Awards. No professional sports player has achieved Bill Russell's level of success.
I agree. Though a case could be made for Wayne Gretzky too. He dominated hockey nearly as much as Wilt dominated hoops.
@@martysomoco
Big big difference between most dominant and greatest winner ever. Greatest winner sure, most dominant, not even close.
Great history lesson from Larry Brown. A 45 year old Wilt showed up to run with the then "Showtime" Lakers in their Prime. Pick up game. Wilt blocks Magic's shot, Magic yells foul/game and runs off the court. Wilt asks to take the 2nd and 3rd stringers, and states no one scores in the paint again. Wilt shuts down the entire Showtime starters, and he and the subs beat the holy hell out of Magic and the rest of the starters and the Lakers starters make not one shot from inside the paint. Wilt blocks supposedly 7 shots, and intimidates many more, in the game to 10.
is this true? wow.
@@jdbhatts2912 majic johnson verifies it along with the rest of the hall of famers that wilt smoked that day. They tried to get him to come to Chicago Jordan was young. Wilt declined and it wasnt until Scotty showed and the reat history that story lol
Wilt was held to 4 points in the finals by a 36 yr old 6'8" bill russel MULTIPLE TIMES, Wilt was regressing since he was 28 lmao stop it.
@@jdbhatts2912 Larry Brown's story not mine, it is on a video on YT
@@markpagtama7954 What is your point. Shaq was held to 0 points in the 4th game of the 2011 Eastern Conf. Semis against the Heat, and scored 2 points in the entire playoffs, and was regressing since the 2005-2006 Playoff Season. See I can find bad stats for anyone too.
Also keep in mind that Wilt HELD BACK. He was actually afraid to maim or even kill someone. Or simply break a hand if he dunks too hard.
Back then I believe it. There really were a lot of weaker non athletic players playing. He literally could have broke their bones. Today players are much stronger and more athletic, and that's not to take anything away from WIlt, he was one of the GOAT in my opinion. What I said is just true though.
the more I seen of Wilt play, the more I am convinced of all the legendary stories of his game. How could you not name him the GOAT?
His competition
@@adamcruz7209 very true but if Wilt were a product of todays generation he would have been even greater. His physical gifts are just unmatched by any other player the NBA has ever seen. imo
@@adamcruz7209 no player in NBA history beats wilt one on one
Jordan played in a time when basketball was more popular and he built a brand out of himself. He's more popular than Wilt, so people give him the GOAT status.
@@S3thduckyquackmoo wilt told Jordan if he played in his era he would average60 points a year.you can't compare Jordan to wilt not even close
Not only is Wilt the goat of the NBA, but he was the greatest athlete ever, in many genres.
Keep saying that; way more people need to hear it
FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO REALIZES WILT US THE GREATEST ATHLETE.. IN ANY SPORT.. ALL TIME.. PERIOD!! WND OF DISCUSSION!!
The “chief” said it so i guess i don’t have to!
Could wilt dominate Shaq?
Could Michael Johnson dominate a snail?
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Shaq was most dominant in his era, but the Stilts was stronger with better ball skills, shooting ability, and he ran down court to defend. I believe if Wilt played Shaq, it would have been much worse than the Dream taking Shaq to school in the 1995 NBA Finals.
Wilt was simply the better player bro 😂🤣
dream tore his ass up
Definitely he would have obliterated shaq
If rodman can upset shaq, how much more if wilt is guarding
@@dontkillme5332 💯 So many people discredit Rodman because of his antics, which was the reason I liked him, but he was solid in every way but scoring. When playing Shaq, Rodman always pulled out his clamps to shut the big man down.
Can you imagine a prime 1960's Wilt playing with the 80's Showtime Lakers? Kareem was great. But he couldn't run for 48 every night. Wilt could. Man, that would have been fun to watch!
Wilt was the first NBA player I ever met. I was just a bit taller than his knee at age 10. He is the reason I am a lifelong Laker fan. Nice man, and dominant on the court.
I met him after a Finals game against the Celtics. It cannot be stressed enough that he was a "nice man". He kidded around with us boys for a minute, with the biggest smile I ever saw. We never forgot that.
Being a life long Laker fan, how do you feel about this current era of the team?
@@karltee7862 I was a Lakers fan and I left being a Lakers fan in 2010. I miss when I was a Lakers fan.
I've seen three NBA centers on the street in my life. Bill Walton riding around on his bicycle in the dark in Palo Alto. Tom Boerwinkle jogging with Jerry Sloan outside the De Paul University gym in Chicago in the early 1970s and Wilt Chamberlain alone outside a restaurant in L.A. at night getting something out of his car. Wilt had an ego the size of aircraft carrier but he was a man of the people too. He never forgot where he came from. That's the other thing about him. Who he was on the street and as a man about town in L.A. after he retired from the NBA. He had a little career in the movies and television too. His major Hollywood credit was in a supporting role in _Conan the Destroyer_ (1984).
I was in an indoor pickup game with some NBA players in it once. One of them was a center with title ring, but he was not a Hall of Fame player. But that's another story. My time on the floor did not last long, but I did get an offensive rebound and a put back. No, I'm not tall. Average.
Something people don't know about Wilt: He benched 500 lbs. as where Shaq benched no more than 400 lbs. Shaq would not have been able to bully Wilt in the paint. Add to that, Wilt's vertical was higher than Shaq's. Bottom line: Wilt was stronger and jumped higher than Shaq thus would have limited Shaq to nothing but hook shots.
Yeah maybe and I find that hard to believe but his eyes were rolling when he said he benched *around* 600 pounds😆. I mean a well over 300 plus pounder in Larry Allen for the Cowboys did 600 lbs, I just don't see him doing that, sorry.
@@samuellp1146 I actually fully agree with you. I think Wilt and a lot of other people told big fish stories about Wilt to make him seem not human. Watching tape of Shaq and Wilt back to back. It's clear Shaq was stronger physically. In the videos of Shaq and Wilt together, Wilt was a grown ass man and Shaq was still a kid who had some growing to do. Had that Wilt met a Lakers Shaq there would've been a totally different vibe.
@@samuellp1146 @Fullmetal Media What about arnold schwarzenegger saying wilt was the strongest man hed ever worked out with?
@@samuellp1146 Arnold Schwarzenegger use to work out with wilt chamberlain and says he’s the strongest person he knew. Wilt was a fitness freak. Shaq was not. Wilt chamberlain was in movies with Arnold and u can clearly tell he was about fitness.
@@TwoWay-xX you and *merkyjerky* are so fixated on me making him out to not be strong. That wasn't my point. My main point was *no way* he benched around 600 lbs his eyes even rolled around when he said it. I doubt it. 600 lbs is a load of weight and with his frame long and muscular as it was, not likely.
I saw Wilt play several times when I was a boy. My father would bad mouth him before the game then spend the whole game throwing an elbow into me and saying how great Wilt was. You became a believer when you saw him play.
Me, too, Harry. I saw Wilt in the late 1960's when he had fully matured into a 290-300 pound behemoth (with no body fat), but could still run all day and get his arm far above the rim. I remember him moving other centers around like they were on roller skates. He would be just as unstoppable today as he was back then.
No doubt. Wilt just might be the true GOAT. We will never know, but Wilt was way more athletic than Shaq. Shaq was heavy and strong, but no way could Shaq keep up with Wilt. Wilt did very well in track and field...not just basketball. No disrespect to Shaq, who I have as a top 10 goat. I'm just saying that Wilt was better. Anyone that doubt's Wilt's strength, should read what Arnold said about Wilt being a lot stronger than Arnold was. That's saying something.
Shaq could never turn and face the basket and hit that little 10 ft to 15 ft. Never had an all around game. Big time dunker, that's basically it! No comparing!
If Wilt had Michael Jordans cut throat mentality, there would have been major injuries or even a few casualties during his title run. Especially if he had ran up against the team like the pistons.
It’s insane to imagine the teams would’ve had but I know for sure that bill laimbeer and Rick Mahorn wouldn’t have pushed him around as much as they did mike
To say he didn't have a winning mentality is disrespectful. He was just to nice to hurt people. Yeah he could of broken bill Russells arm. The fact he chose to be more skillful makes him a better person not someone that doesn't wanna win.
Being from the Detroit area and seeing the Bad Boys live many times and how good the Pistons were I still know that Wilt would eat Laimbeer's lunch. He was the best in my opinion.
Wilt was man amongst boys. He was playing soft so he would not hurt others,imagine you playing your 5yr children with full power.
There's a difference people say it means he had no killer instinct on the court. No it means he wanted to prove he was skillful and not just a big Brute like Shaq.
So, we are comparing the guy who literally attacked opponents with his strength in a more lenient era and had a peak of 29.7 ppg to a a guy who literally protected opponents from his strength in a less lenient era and had a peak of 50 ppg?
Got it.
Pace of game was a lot faster in Wilt's era. Way more offensive possessions.
Plus guys didn't really intentionally foul as much as a tactic for Wilt like they did for Shaq.
@Jkev24 oh, they intentionally fouled Wilt all right. It was just never called back then. Unless you flat out tackled somebody, they just let them play.
@@carlpabst6506 you could watch old games in yt, its not that way at all lmao
No were comparing a guy who is the best player on his championship team 3 times and a guy who got held to 11 points by willis reed on 1 foot, got held to 4 points by 6'9" skinny 36 yr old about to retire bill russel MULTIPLE TIMES.
And yes i do think the comparison is absurd.
@Mark Pagtama you're watching on 1or 2 grainy PTZ cameras back then. You can't see anything as to what's really going on like you can in Shaq's day. They would stomp on feet (with only Chuck Taylor's to protect them), throw elbows, double team push and shoved, and yet he played every minute of every game. Ejected once, but never fouled out in his entire career because he used his skills, not just power.
That old school mentality Wilt had is what made him great.
For those who don't believe Wilt would dominate Shaq - especially, defensively - I have two words: BEN WALLACE. Wallace, at 6'9", blocked Shaq's shots and bothered the heck out of him on defense. Wallace was a very good defensive player but he couldn't even come close to Wilt's defensive prowess. If Ben at 6'9" could block Shaq, imagine what Wilt could've done. I wonder if Shaq could EVER manage to shoot over him. Even Kareem had to resort to his sky hook - and Wilt would occasionally block those!
I'm leaning towards Wilt. Just look at his incredible athletic prowess. A once in a century Athlete. Hearing Arnold talk about Wilt's strength is mind blowing.
Right. And superhuman endurance to boot. That's maybe his wildest attribute - to be that big, fast, coordinated and strong ... and have the stamina to dominate the entire game from tipoff to the end of the 4th. Doesn't make sense.
Wilt was special, no doubt. Never see a big man like him again in the NBA. However, taking on Ali in the ring lol? Wilt was wise to back out of the fight.
Shaq's game was limited, and that is why he always suffered against bigger players: Yao, even Rick Smits. Without the referee's favoritism, it would be no contest.
One thing about Wilt. Apparently he lifted with Schwarzenegger in his prime and he said Wilt was pound for pound with him. That kind of strength is next level and may have been enough to slow Shaq down.
Schwarznegger said that Chamberlain was the strongest man he had ever seen. Consider that an expert opinion.
Shaq = strong
Wilt = strong ,taller 0:19,faster , better rebounder ,better scorer , better defender .
How do you know
Well against Russel, the best defender ever, he rebounded 55 times and scored 62 points in one game. Obviously he played in the 60s so stats u can’t really compare, but Shaq was bully ball in terms of strength, Wilt was bully ball in terms of size skill and athleticism. Yet he was even stronger than Shaq he just chose not to use that attribute as much
@@daviddowling2822 where's the proof he was stronger than Shaq 🤔
@@melvynsngltn27 idk u just not gonna take anyone’s word, even for one, Bill Russel his greatest fo, or Arnold Schwarzenegger
@@melvynsngltn27 when the Terminator says someone was out lifting body builders. You listen. People act like Wilt wasn’t a giant athletic man 😂. Just Shaq is more solid don’t mean he was stronger.
Rodman at 6'7 held down Shaq on most of their matchups. No question a 7'1 goliath with the athleticism of a guard will dominate Shaq.
Wilt is head and shoulders above Shaq in pure athletic ability. Couple that with the fact he could bench 500 lbs. he would have moved Shaq anywhere he wanted him. If Wilt played under the same rules Shaq did we wouldn't be having this conversation. Absolutely no comparison!!
lmao what stewpid comments
You krazy
@@mikewilliams9069 yes your comment is stewpid. You do know wilt was crazy strong.
@@danlouie352 and shaq isn't? What stewpid comments
@@danlouie352 you believe in fairytale too much. Dont take words literally. All old heads trying to hype their era
Wilt would have been good for Shaq. Wilt's background in track and field would have forced Shaq to work on both endurance and running the full 94' really well.
So Shaq would lose weight...what would've made him weaker (or less strong).
Wilt wouldn't help Shaq he didn't respect Shaq. Shaq was a bully. Had wilt chose to play like Shaq everyone would of been hurt.
@@dustincobb5718 I don't think he would have helped him in terms of mentoring him. I just think it would have made Shaq choose to either run the floor better or not. He might have chosen not to do that. But having someone as big as Wilt running the floor so well would have forced Shaq to consider changes to his conditioning and prep.
@@blackcasanova7 Shaq as a rookie seemed mobile and strong. I am not sure, but you are right if he lost too much of his weight, he might have been less impactful.
Shaq aint built for running. He's slow, sluggish, no agility, no skills, just brute strength - and Wilt crushes him there as well, lmao.
No man in the history of team sport has ever impacted his chosen sport like Wilt. There will never be another like him. Shaquille O'Neal was great, one of the greatest of his time (along with Hakeem) but no way was he in the class of Wilt, may he rest in peace.
Wilt just wasn't much of a winner. Russell would get the best of him if they matched up in the finals. So, he was dominant, unless he had to play against someone with similar size and physical tools as him.
Jim Brown / Wayne Gretzky honorable mentions ?
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@@ericanderson7059 I personally would have said Barry Sanders and Gordie Howe. But in none of the 4 mentioned was the impact of Wilt Chaimberlain felt. They actually changed the rules of the game not protect him but to make it harder for him to excel.
@@beezum Bill Russell has explained this MANY times, saying that for the most part, his Celtics had the better TEAM from top to bottom. And that's why they won. In 1967, Wilt's Sixers had what is in the conversation for all time greatest single season TEAM. In that year, the Sixers crushed the Celtics in five games, then went on to win the championship.
I think The Babe and Tiger would be right up there with him.
Shaq is one of the few players who still mentions Wilt, and acknowledges his greatness, They BOTH dominated during their particular eras..By the way, BOTH are ( were ) super good dudes in person !!! I was EXTREMELY CLOSE friends with Wilt ( my Condo was in Brentwood, and I played Tennis with him on the Barrington Park Courts at least 30 times..) I was supposed to take him Furniture Shopping the day after he passed away... in my truck ..
what was he like as a person?.... in interview, he seems very perceptive & much more intelligent then your avg athlete. he also seems good natured. really miss he and russell.
If Wilt could played in the 60s like Shaq played in the 90s he would averaged 70ppg
no lies detected shaq got away with absolute murder he rarely was called for offensive fouls
@Mr. President that’s true but if wilt did that he would really really hurt somebody
@Mr. President I mean if Wilt played with the rules that Shaq was allowed to play Wilt would get 70 ppg.The defensive 3 sec was introduced in 01-02 though
@@efes_6921 SHAQ DIP THAT SHOULDER WHOLE LIFE HE HAS NO SKILLS ON DROP STEP OR IN POST AREA. U SHOULD GOOGLE
DWIGHT HOWARD VS SHAQ AND SEE WHAT WILT TALK BOUT. SHAQ OLD DIP SHOULDER ON D12 EVERY TIME.
@@patek9789 no he didn't
Wilt was surely by far the better athlete. Gifted with freakish strength also!!
but bigger loser lol
Yeah that’s crazy how strong he was while still having that cardio and skill. If he would have been a body builder he probably could have been on some Ronnie Coleman shi.
@@ziginaigra Basketball is not golf or tennis…it’s a team sport, and btw, calling Chamberlain, (a 2 time champion who sacrificed nearly half of his career’s most productive years to dramatically reducing his scoring in order to win) a loser, says more about you in that regard than it does him, for sure.
@@LC-jq7vn If he was on juice, he would do very well on bodybuilding. I don't know about ronnie colman level. Ronnie was bigger than that before steroids.
@@billj4525 Yeah but Ronnie worked out just to be big too before that, and it seems Will was trying to do other things in athletics. But I’m just exaggerating for the sake of argument anyways. wilt benching 600 natural is just inconceivable still tho. I’ve never seen anyone bench 600 that wasn’t like a walking juice box of tren. Chances are his muscles would respond in the top 0.5% of steroids and had way more gains than most people ever while already being naturally that strong. I sure would have loved to find out. His length though would make him not look as big and wide even if he did get stronger. Both are freaks, but I’m sure Ronnie couldn’t get anywhere close the other records he had in jumping and running.
Wilt was asked to just dunk on Bill Russell and break his hand.. He dislocated a man's shoulder by blocking his shot by accident. Imagine if Wilt actually played shaq-like aggressiveness. I don't see the Celtics or any team winning a Chip playing against Wilt
He could end careers and make life-long cripples, or possibly even be charged, that's why.
Wilt broke someone's foot by sending a ball that way via a blocked shot
And Shaq broke backboards. And?!?!
Bill Russell was the most dominant NBA player ever. Two National Championships at the University of San Francisco, a final four Most Valuable Player award, an Olympic Gold Medal, 11 NBA Championships in 13 years, 8 successive NBA Championships (IN A ROW), 5 NBA regular-season MVP awards, and several NBA Finals MVP Awards. No professional sports player has achieved Bill Russell's level of success.
Wilt was the most dominant due to his natural strength and his high endurance. He didn’t just beat them with power but by wearing them down and then overpowering them in the long run.
Wilt is wilt, in others words a record's breaker. And shaq is an agressive monster under the rim.
O'Neal is a severely overrated, idiotic man-child and wannabe thug who needed tons of help from the officials to get his points. He displayed very little talent on the court.
@@bubufubu hahaha ok bro take it easy.
@@bubufubu dam bruh why you mad for 😂
@@bubufubu 😂😂😂 you are the biggest bser I ever heard
@@bubufubu wilt wouldn’t stand a chance
Wilt is the GOAT! Rest in peace legend!
Wherever your at; I hope you’re restin at ease!
Jordan was better
Jordan nothing to Bill Russel.
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Not a better passer, scorer or rebounder plus let Michael and Wilt play each other and who do you think would win? @@grant1739
If Arnold aka Mr. Olympia is telling you Wilt was strong, then rest assure that, the man was strong!
Not just strong, but the strongest man he's ever met in an era of juiced to the gills bodybuilders. Thats insane.
even if he was that strong he didnt use that on court so....
@@ziginaigra he wasn’t allowed too…which shows that he’s better than Shaq..he was far more skilled with Shaq
Wilt Chamberlin was a special human being. RIP legend!
Wilt is arguably the greatest physical speciman of all-time. Whatever sport he got into he could've been the best at it. Unfortunately, he was at least a generation (or two) too early. It's very tough for any athlete from that era to be called the greatest because the competition wasn't even close. The money just simply wasn't there to attract the best of the best.
So how does anyone know what he'd do vs superior competition like Hakeem Kareem Shaq, Rodman, Ben Wallace. He was bullying a bunch of slouches except for Russell.
“Speciman”🤣🤣🤣
@@Midw3stSnip3r that's what you get when you combine special+man=speciman... Makes perfect sense lol.
@@roastkingasaurus he faced kareem in his career
@@roastkingasaurus This is ABSOLUTELY false. He was not "bullying" anybody and they most definitely were not "slouches." Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, and (later) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar were just some of the excellent competition Wilt faced. Check out highlights of their work on youtube. Not a slouch or weakass or unskilled player in the bunch. One example, for Thurmond: ruclips.net/video/HCaYyNvdFL8/видео.html. Plus Wilt played in an era where TOUGH defense was played. Shaq, less so. LeBron MUCH LESS so.
The Shaq handshake is all the proof I need that he would dominate in todays game
I had to catch that slo mo. And you would be forgiven if you missed it.
But I saw it.
Wilt Chamberlain is very different.
It was just a surprise shake
@@johnmorrison3297 Precisely. I'm not at all impressed by it.
Shaq should have slapped the old man for that stunt. Shaq tries to be respectful to his elder and the elder pulls out the torque wrench handshake on him.
"He [Wilt] stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling. It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." -- KC
Jones
In my opinion Wilt was the most dominant basketball player ever. Aside from that, he was a tremendous athlete and remarkably skilled for his size. And then there’s his strength. With his power and mobility he would have pushed Shaq around and likely averaged 40 pts a game and 20 rebounds in today’s NBA (plus a fair number of assists as he’d have to be guarded by 2-3 players). It’s a pity we weren’t able to witness that.
robert wadlow was 8'11" tall, I never heard anything about his athleticism, and he would have been able to stand outside the key and score at will. average 80 ppg maybe? at some point you realize...basketball is the most flawed of all popular team sports, and about on the level of professional wrestling with the fixed games/corrupt refs/corrupt league
@@johncraftenworth7847 you good buddy Robert wadlow would not do that Bc he’d probably get injured by players trying to defend him and he couldn’t move properly Bc of his size 🤦♂️
@@sparkygameryt8748 he could park outside opponents key and never leave, he'd be scoring around 100 percent, thanks for playing
against what defence 🤣🤣🤣
I don’t have much faith in opinions; but in this case i do
Wilt would dominate even modern players. His strength and athletics and endurance were unmatched. He was large enough and strong enough to dominate anyone today. He was also by far the most athletic big guy ever. He has more NBA records than anyone. Records that are unbreakable.
Best comparison between these two amazing guys I’ve ever seen. Edit: I said that at 2 minutes. I just finished it. My mind is blown away because of the footage and the editing🤯
Thank you! 👍
Wilt was stronger than Shaq. More hard working. Better skills. No comparison
Shaq was very athletic for a big man, but relied primarily on his bulk to plow over his opponents. Wilt was much more athletic, was stronger, had better ball handling skills, was much smoother and graceful and above all, had the physical endurance that could run circles around Shaq.
100%! Most people's recollection of Wilt was from his last playing days in the 1970's. I saw him play from 1967 on. The late 1960's version of Wilt was a sight to behold. He weighed almost 300 pounds (without any fat), but could still jump out of the gym and run all day long. It is laughable to think Shaq could have manhandled him.
It’s a myth that he was stronger than Shaq, not even close.
And opponents were at his chest
@@isaacwittinger8617 yet he still punked the notoriously domineering Shaq by blatantly demonstrating the stronger handshake on live tv
@@isaacwittinger8617 how do you know that?
I don’t know if Wilt could really bench press 700 lbs or whatever, but he was clearly very very strong. We have numerous testimonials from plenty of other people to support that.
I had the opportunity to see Wilt play in the twilight of his career (the early 70's). He was still a rebounding machine even then. His scoring dropped off significantly, but he still protected the rim.
Great video. There was no player like him.
Thank you 👍
I would add, he purposefully changed his game because of looking too selfish. That's why he's still the only center to lead the league in assists. He could've kept scoring but chose not to.
@@brianwinkler8183 - I have to say that by the early 70's he had put on weight and his knees were hurting him. He could still score, but there was West and Goodrich to carry the offensive, but his defense, blocked shots and rebounding was needed. He really did pattern his game to what was needed.
Actually, his Lakers coach Bill Sharman asked Wilt to focus on defense and to score around 13 a game. It was the Celtics center model that made the Celtics so dominating for all those years. So Wilt played defense and scored 13 a game, lol. And Sharman was a great coach.
@@brjohn1960 while that is true, Wilt changed his game prior to leaving Philly. When the 76’ers won in ‘67-68, Wilt led the league in assists. He is still the only center to ever do that.
Note: the stats from Shaq's best season, as listed by Skip Bayless when he said that Shaq would have terrorized Wilt are (except for the FG%) lower than Wilt's career averages. Truly, Skip is a legend in the art of being a clown.
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lol! fACTS!
only the foolish and ignorant listen to bayless
Keep in mind that stats don’t really translate across eras in basketball. 🙂 That said, I have no doubt that prime Shaq would be dominant in today’s NBA. Wilt would be ever better.
@@tomgardner8825 Bayless is literally a professional hater…
not only the greatest athlete of all time, but also a great human. Nothing but respoect for Wilt.
Jim Thorpe greatest athlete but Chamberlain was great
Wilt was not only the best basketball player ever but one of the greatest athletes ever.
One of the best Basketball players ever. Jordan & LeBron are greater players
he played against plumbers, he’s not the best
He's the best because he's a multi-sport athlete not just basketball. His favorite was track and field. He even played volleyball. So where does Jordan and LeBron compare there?
@@sparrow2075 i’m talking about basketball not athlete, idgaf how good wilt chamberlain was at bowling and cricket, i care who the best basketball player of all time is and i don’t even know if Wilt should be top ten
@@gaysexhaver He's the GOAT. Nobody can.beat the basketball records he achieved. He's like the Bruce Lee of basketball. He even told once that Shaq uses physicality to dominate every other player in his time but not Wilt.