Its kind of that important too now, but Shotgun quick game has covered up many so so OLines. 2011 NYG exhibit A. 2008 Steelers. Bad run games and quick game till the D lines get tired and maybe runs and deep passes have a chance later on.
Love the narration by John Facenda, the music from the Chiefs, Bengals game at Riverfront Stadium is exactly the same from the documentary, The Fabulous Sixties!!!
I noticed in two scenes in this video when the opposition got the ball via fumble or interception, there was Dawson and Unitas scrambling after the defender ball carrier, putting themselves at injury risk. Gotta love and respect the attitudes of the FB players of that era.
Although often criticized, I remember Jay Cutler pushing a defender out of bounds to stop a touchdown. He broke his thumb and it derailed the Bears playoff hopes.
Loved the way the Chiefs groundskeeper George Toma (The "God of Sod") used to put the Chiefs helmet logo and the team they were playing at home that week's helmet logo on each side of the 50 yd line. The NFL commissioner at that time (Pete Rozelle) was so impressed with Mr. Toma's work he hired him to prepare the fields for many Super Bowl's that followed
He maintained the condition of ROYALS, AND later as it is now.. KAUFFMAN STADIUM and its tartan turf, and then, afterward its natural grass. The greatest groundskeeper in history..by far..GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY, CHEFS..
Hank Stram was cool and unique with his tailor-made suits, trenchcoat, and game plan in his hand. Back in the 60s and 70s head coaches were colorful. Also think of Lombardi, Landry, Madden, Ewbank, Gilliam, Shula, Halas, and Noll. Coaches today are about as exciting as leftovers in the fridge. One other thing back in those days they weren't sore losers like many of today's head coaches.
WR Otis Taylor wrote a great book "The Need to Win" where he talked a lot about his relationship with Hank Stram. Stram used to use a "cherry picker" like crane device to look down on practices and then bring players into his office to discuss how they needed to improve etc. Taylor noted that Stram had a huge "sweet tooth" and used to have cases of candy bars in his office (likely perks from sponsors who he did commercials for in the Kansas City area)--This ultimately caught up to Stram as he developed diabetes later in life and died from complications from it
Thanks for your insights on the Chiefs. I'm a huge fan of K.C. I went my first KC game in the 70s and attended more in the 80s. I have depth knowledge of the Chiefs as well as yourself.
Mike Garrett #21 for KC (1:56) was one of the heroes of SB IV with a TD but ultimately he was traded in 1970 to San Diego. In Otis Taylor's book-"The Need to Win" he noted there was a lot of bitterness among the Chiefs about Garrett's trade and it ultimately hurt the team's chemistry
garrett's issues with stram originated, believe it or not , from a ping pong game between the two back when mike was a rookie...stram was an primping prima donna and had to always be right...i was taken back by his arrogance via the microphone when they beat the minnies in sb 4....they won, great. don't rub it in.
I was a huge Raider fan back in ‘69, though I hated KC, I was an AFL fan, and so rooted for them to whip Minn in the SB........65 toss power trap, YEAH, Whoo-hoo!!
What an irony. Instead of sealing the Raiders' fate as losers on that play where 280 pound Ben Davidson pounds Len Dawson after the play, the ensuing brawl helped Oakland move into first place. Saw this one on NBC. That was the most heated rivalry in pro football at that time.
The Raiders liked to intimidate and get under other team's skins. That's what happened there. The Chiefs lost their composure. It wasn't fair; Davidson would likely have been thrown out today. But it worked then.
@@marcschneider4845 I agree. They played a roughouse style of defense, but that O-line was big and scary, too, with big Gene Upshaw running that sweep, looking for his, "victim," (lol), and Art Shell, and later, 300 pound Bob Brown. That whole team would be banned today, along with other roughouse teams from that era; early 70s Eagles, Steelers, Bears of the late 60s, etc...
The chiefs trio were fabulous , arguably the best in NFL history , they certainly validated themselves as extraordinary. As a Steelers fan I'm astonished at each individuals excellence and ability to blend that component effortlessly into a elite team nucleus ,with lynch being the underrated person historically.
Craig Morton (Dallas QB)-pass for a TD (11:25) was to Bob Hayes (#22)--Mr. Hayes was one of the very few players in history who made the transition from Olympic Sprinter (he won the gold medal at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo) to NFL WR successfully
I love the comment by one critic that the Kansas City Chiefs were "A Flash in the Pan." They were. A decade long flash in the pan!! The Chiefs of that era were as cutting edge as a Machete. From their owner and AFL founder Lamar Hunt, to their coach Hank Stram. In their scouting the Chiefs ignored the Lily White Racist Policies of the National Football League. They went after every great black athlete they could find. And it seemed as if they'd cornered them all!In a list of great Pro Head Coaches, Hank Stram was badly underrated. Stram was a fascinating and compelling paradox. He was an ultra conservative dapper dresser. He insisted his players follow his sartorial lead. On the field, the Chiefs were as radical as a Hippie Festival. Many thought Cowboys coach Tom Landry was footballs greatest innovator of that era. You could argue Stram left him at the Chalkboard. Stram was footballs "Inspector Gadget." Every play was an Arthur Murray Dance recital. Even at their onset, the Chiefs were ahead of the pack. Landry admitted that Strams Dallas Texans would have beaten the Cowboys in their early days. Moving to Kansas City, Stram took his High Wire Act to the Midwest. Now, the circle has been joined. Andy Reid of the modern day Chiefs has raised the bar to a 12 foot High Jump!! Speed at every position with the Imagination of a Science Fiction Writer. The Chiefs were the NFLs shining star. Perhaps all of footballs as well.
That regular season ending game in Oakland, despite being a fully-attended crowd at the stadium, the TV broadcast was _blacked out_ in the San Francisco Bay Area due to the NFL and FCC rules forbidding the broadcast of local NFL games to the home market. It would be several years before those broadcast rules for the local team/home market, be changed.
@@theprofessor8589 Not the Chiefs. They weren't even in there at the end. The crazy thing is, both entries in the Super Bowl that year suffered embarrassing losses on Monday Night football. As mentioned by Facenda, the Colts were schooled by the defending champion Chiefs, 44-24. Later on the same year, their eventual opponent in SB 5, the Dallas Cowboys, lost to the St. Louis Cardinals 38-0.
@@bobscott7440, that was a nutty year..The Rams slipped, 49ers rose up, the Giants and Cards both had their best seasons in a while..Cleveland dropped, and Cincy rose.. There was a tremendous amount of parody that year, no dynasty-worthy performances...first season of the SCHEDULE MERGER AND THE AFC AND NFC..too..a different year.
And the Dolphins and Bengals both made the playoffs for the first time. At this point, both were far ahead of their NFC expansion partners Falcons and Saints.
On their 1970 schedule were, the Colts (11-2-1 and eventual SB5 winners), Dallas Cowboys (10-4 and eventual SB5 losers) the Minnesota Vikings a 12-2 division winner and the Raiders twice. Not an easy schedule to say the least.
Interestingly the Oakland-Kansas City rivalvry had more to do with the fact that Charlie Findlay (who owned the KC Athletics in MLB) decided to move the team to Oakland--there was a tremendous amount of bitterness in Kansas City about the move and they turned their anger on anything "Oakland"--hence their hatred for the Raiders
Imagine the bitterness when the core of young Athletics who got their start in Kansas City went on to win three consecutive World Series. I also want to say that John Maddon and Hank Stram had a respectful, but prickly relationship. And when two teams are playing for something big every year that will add to the intensity of any rivalry.
@@davidlafleche1142, he ran an Annette Funicello operation..Mickey Mouse all the way..except Dick Williams and their drafts in the late 60's saved them..
Embarrassing road losses to open and close 1970 + their inability to defeat the Raiders doomed KC's chances for a playoff slot, let alone a repeat. The home loss to Tom Landry's Super Bowl V bound Cowboys was especially telling, serving as an ominous NFL-style reality check from the franchise that drove them out of Dallas following the '62 season. Losing to Lou Saban and Charlie Waller coached teams didn't light up the path, either. But, never mind all of that. Fast forward a half century and it's all good. The Chiefs' fortunes have taken a major upturn since this track was posted. The wait was long, especially for surviving fans from SB IV. However, KC's success is undeniable. How much longer it may last is anyone's guess.
Wow how one play can have an impact on a season.Thr Chiefs were in a thrilling game with Oakland... their nemisis...scored late...got the ball back...ready to run out the clock...Dawson scrambled for his life and got a huge gain....Game over... Nope.... Here comes Trouble making Ben Davidson....with a diliberate spear...Otis grabs him.....yep..... offsetting penalties.Oakland gets one more chance....Blanda pulls one of his many that season.I cried...It hurts the fans....A sure win that we needed.The Chiefs never recovered from this ....and it cost them their season in the end...
Hi Eddie. That incident happened LITERALLY right in front of me. I was standing in the aisle that ran along the 1st base line of seats at old Municipal Stadium and I stood and watched the play. Dawson faked the handoff to the left then turned and bootlegged to the right with #73 Dave Hill attempting to get out in front of Dawson and lead the blocking. Hill eventually did get in front of Dawson and then Dawson tripped over Hill's feet and went down by himself. NONE of the Raiders touched him down to end the play and then Davidson speared him in the back with the crown of his helmet. The referee who was standing only a few feet away couldn't get the penalty flag out of his pocket quickly enough for the Chiefs players to see that it was going to be penalized and then Otis Taylor, who was tight with Dawson, jumped on Davidson, headlocked him and wrenched him down to the turf. Jerry Mays #75 jumped on top of the two as the pileup of players ended up a few yards away. The melee went for about 10 minutes with players swinging away at each other. When it was finally gotten under control, the referee called offsetting penalties, meaning the teams would have to repeat the down by going back to the original line of scrimmage to replay it. The Chiefs didn't make it and Jerrel Wilson had to punt. The Raiders got possession, Daryl Lamonica moved them down field into KC territory to the 40 yard line, where they were down to only seconds remaining. George Blanda came on and kicked a field goal that just barely made it over the crossbar as the Chiefs 6',10" tight end Morris Stroud was told by Hand Stram to stand under the crossbar and jump up and bat the ball away if it was close. Stroud attempted to knock it away and mis-timed his jump. He would've had it had he timed it better. The 17-17 tie was gut-wrenching to accept, especially after the shenanigans that took place during the game, but history has shown it to be one vital cog in the building of one of the greatest rivalries in sports: Chiefs vs Raiders. Long live the AFL!
If they hadn't had to knock heads with the Raiders all those years they would no doubt won multiple superbowls and would have been ranked amongst the other great teams.
The Vikings had time to prepare for the Chiefs in the season opener (unlike about 1 week in SB IV)-once they had a better idea of who they were playing and how to deal with them the result was never in doubt (27-10)
Both games were somewhat deceptive, as total yards gained in both games were virtually the same for both teams. The perceptions were just different, as both were thought to be routs..
The Vikings had never been in a Super Bowl before and it was only the 4th one in history--where as the Chiefs had been to SB 1 and knew how to handle the media circus and all the distractions associated with it. There was only one week between the NFL Championship game and the SB which gave the Vikings little to no time to prepare for a team they had never played before. The Chiefs were full value for their win but I think the Vikings then had 9 months to figure out how to deal with the Chiefs intricate offensive formations and develop offensive plays to get around their defense
+MassVt Yes Chiefs outgained Vikings 273-237 in SB Vikes only 67 yards rushing. ..Rematch. ..Yards 220-218 Minny and 58 of KC offense on one play. ...turnovers hurt the losing team both games....
Chiefs had the same amount of prep in SUPE IV.. Minnesota was playing in MINNY against a lesser hungry KC team that could not have been up as much as they were for the SUPER BOWL. I am not a Chiefs fan, but your reasoning was faulty.
The game against Dallas (10:37) had extra incentive for Kansas City as there was a lot of bitterness that the Cowboys were better received in Dallas than the Chiefs were when they played there as the Dallas Texans (ultimately they were forced to move to Kansas City because of this)
Hi David. Just saw your post here. The truth about Lamar Hunt moving the Texans from Dallas to Kansas City was that the Texans were never "forced" out of Dallas. Check the internet and you'll see that the AFL Texans outdrew the NFL Cowboys in the years 1960-62 at the same facility, the Cotton Bowl. But Lamar Hunt elected to move the Texans from Dallas to another market (he also considered New Orleans & Miami, then was he contacted by business leaders in Kansas City who courted him and eventually persuaded him to relocate the team here), because of other, non-football business interests. These complicated the existence of the two professional football teams in the Dallas area, thus jeopardizing the financial viability of both. The real truth is that Hunt's father HL, was a big-Texas Oil multi-millionaire, had huge financial resources and could've easily bankrolled the team in Dallas to this day. But the Hunt's and Cowboys original owner Clint Murchison (also big Texas Oil people) were close family friends with long-standing business ties. They didn't want or need any kind of a war between the two franchises or families there in Dallas. So Lamar, who knew that he depended on the financial backing of his father in order to make things work, believed that the best thing for everyone involved was to relocate the team to a city not far from Dallas. The timing for such a move was perfect, as the value of the team as AFL champion was at it's highest and the best possible deal could be struck with another city. And I thank the Lord above that he chose my hometown of Kansas City to relocate the Texans when he did. Long Live the AFL!
If it had been played in Dallas, maybe, but outside of Mays, Dawson and Robinson, most Chiefs playing in the game were never with the AFL Dallas Texans..
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt, and the IRS told him, losing money would no longer be written off= not considering it a hobby any longer- MICHAEL MacCAMBRIDGE, PRO FOOTBALL HISTORIAN..
@@robertsprouse9282 Names of players who you left off your list, men who played for both the Dallas Texans and Kansas City Chiefs: EJ Holub, Sherrill Hedrick, Bobby Hunt, Abner Haynes, Fred Arbanas, Tommy Brooker, Chris Burford, Frank Jackson, Curtis McClinton, Smokey Stover, Jim Tyrer, Jon Gilliam, Jack Spykes, Eddie Wilson, Mel Branch, Dave Grayson, Walt Corey, Jerry Cornielson, Curt Merz, Duane Wood and Al Reynolds. Reference=Profootballarchives.com. Best wishes Robert.
@@robertsprouse9282 Michael MacCambridge, pro football historian did a tremendous job chronicling the history of the AFL, no doubt. Quite enjoyable watching the series and reading the information on various websites. But he had to get his information from somewhere prior to authoring his book and taking part in the TV series about the AFL (Full Color Football). Undoubtedly he contacted the Kansas City Chiefs organization (probably Public Relations staff members, possibly even Clark Hunt---> Lamar's son) and got the information they gave him. The information I have is from a source I cannot/will not reveal, but who was able to share a different perspective on what occurred at the time of Hunt's decision to move the team out of Dallas. With regard to the events involving professional sports teams and players, the message the public hears/reads can many times be in stark contrast with the the truth. Best wishes Robert.
@@robertsprouse9282Horrific event negatively impacted potential hof enshrinement,"RIP" to his unfortunate family , condolences to the family and friends of the deceased .
With all due respect, it was the 1969 Chiefs who won Super Bowl IV on January 11, 1970. The image of the Chiefs from Super Bowl IV has little to do with the 1970 Chiefs who went 7-5-2.
You have got to handed to Otis Taylor for standing up for his QB. Just kicked Ben Davidsons ass. Could you imagine in todays game a WR beating up Ndamong Sue or whatever his name is 13:36
yeah, but otis cost his team a win, not that it really woulda made a difference in that years playoffs...they never woulda beat the colts again.... the afl teams that year? the jets were crippled... the raiders, well, lamonica was exposed for what he really was by the chiefs the prior january...and the chiefs were underachievers as dawson reverted back to his namby pamby days....running draw plays on third and eight....a bad year for the old afl...the only bright spot was the emergence of miami under shula, the greatest coach of all time...
@@graciemaemarie11jones16, thank goodness for all fans= those rules have been changed= dead ball with offsetting penalties after, offsetting but play counts..
His quarterback speared while lying on the ground. Someone had to try to protect his quarterback. As tight as their division was, where were they going without a physically functioning quarterback? And rules at that time would allow a team to basically end a players season or career if unchecked!
Bud Grant must have put those 8 months to great use with strategy, since there is no reason to think the Chiefs were not still physically larger than Minnesota as they were when they brutalized the Vikings on both sides of the ball in SB4. I'm sure anger and desire for payback was part of the equation but how could the Chiefs not use their brutal size advantage to the same effect as in New Orleans? Overconfidence? Complacency?
Wish I had all 22 of the 69 and 70 Chiefs; You hear so much about Hank Stram being innovative and ahead of his time...but it's hard to see with those old angles HOW. Plus it would show what other notable teams were doing. Watching the Raiders Cheat! L Love to see how they overcame a Defense Lbs and Secondary that specialized in aggravated assault on WRs way before a ball is out.
The 1970 Chiefs were in prime position to make the playoffs again with a 7-3-2 record, but two very costly road losses, at Oakland and San Diego left KC at 7-5-2. The Dolphins edged the Chiefs for the wildcard at 10-4.
10-4 is a little more than "edging" an opponent with a record of 7-5-2. The Chiefs had a fairly difficult schedule, but they really didn't look that great in some of their losses..
MassVt No, you are wrong. On the last weekend, had Miami lost and the Chiefs won, then the Chiefs would have gone and the Dolphins stayed home. 8-4-2 is a better winning percentage than 9-5. I was around then and remember hearing the set up for the last weekend.
Time base Corrector You can't really count the San Diego loss, because by the time that game was played on the last regular season day, Miami had slaughtered the Bills, 45-7 and taken the last playoff spot. The Chargers game really meant nothing.
didn't matter... chiefs would never have beaten baltimore again, never...and i am a chiefs fanatic... dawson? =LOSER........... they coulda won super bowl 4 vs minnies' with mike livingston, trust me....
Although it was noble for Otis Taylor to attack Ben Davidson (13:36) for spearing QB Len Dawson the resulting penalties nullified Dawson's first down run and Oakland got the ball back and tied the game. Ultimately Oakland won the division with a 8-4-2 record while KC had a 7-5-2 record and missed the playoffs---if KC had won that game they would have won the division and a spot in the playoffs
I remember watching that game. Davidson was clearly the instigator, but the old "matching" penalties rule nullified the 1st down -gaining play. The game resulted in a tie, but it felt like a Raider victory.
david graham I remember watching that game on the tube. Hank Stram placed 6'10" Morris Stroud under the Raiders goalpost to try to block George Blanda's field goal attempt. It almost worked, butility the kick was good which tied the game. It was a shame overtime was not in the rules for regular season games in 1970.
taylor cost them the division...but it wouldn't have mattered, they wouldn't have been able to beat the colts again...the monday night game was just a fluke...dawson? verry overrated. and i'm a chiefs fan for 49 years...honestly, we have NEVER had a great qb outside of joe in 93 and 94, but he was old, and broke down....
graciemaemarie11 jones Surprised you say that I grew up in the 60s as a Raider fan. My take then was Dawson was kept under wraps in Stram’s offense, a good thing, the S&B had enough trouble stopping KC’s redoubtable running game. Certainly a better Qb than the Mad Bomber.
I always thought that it was ironic that an NFL team won the first ever post merger Superbowl as an AFC team. At least the Chiefs beat the Colts in the week 2 MNF game.
@@G0Chiefs, the NFC also crushed the AFC in the Pro Bowl in ('70)71's= 27-6.. Reasons? 1.The two year run of the perfect AFL player talent convergence was ending.. Old AFL players who were not good enough for the 12, 13, or 14 team NFL had accumulated enough experience by those last two AFL seasons in history to overcome any NFL physical talent-lacking shortcomings with mental performances and consistent execution on the upswing in the AFL, AND some in-prime youth... 2. The common draft allowed the AFL to sign LANIER, WEBSTER, LITTLE, K.HOUSTON, LYNCH, MARSALIS, SIMPSON, GRIESE, CSONKA, etc.. players the AFL does not get without a common draft. AND.. 3. THE NFL by overexpanding, 4 teams(*Dallas did not do any collegiate drafting until 1961) to the AFL's two, post- *1960, allowed the AFL to move up and allowed the NFL to slide with many old players hanging around to get bigger, relatively speaking, paychecks because ATLANTA, N.ORLEANS, DALLAS AND MINNESOTA had robbed the old teams of depth in younger, in-prime bottom-rung quality starters and the bench, and management had to keep the older ones around to keep the teams competitively strong. Those are the reasons, but when the old AFL'ers hit the wall at the end of their careers in '70, the old NFL/NFC with their drafts re-emerged for two seasons, both in the inter-conference play and with the COLTS who were younger than the '68 Colts. In addition, after 1968, old NFL dynasties like G.Bay had fully slid, OLD NFL(AFC) Cleveland, after '70 had to restock, the Rams restocked, and the Redskins under Allen in '71 made trades for old Rams guys who were joined by old AFL' ers such as MCDOLE, VERLON BIGGS AND an in his prime KEN HOUSTON from Houston..for improvement, but not championship worthy apexing.. It took another two drafts to get the AFL portion of the AFC back on a competitive track. But, make no mistake, the best of the old AFL, except for Oakland= Buffalo and KC and the Chargers were fading by mid-decade. MIAMI, and CINCY both of the AFL expansion teams headed by old NFL minds were much stronger, while SID GILLMAN an old NFL AND AFL mind was pushing Houston back up as first head coach/g.m., and then, as g.mgr..until Bum Phillips his assistant took over. Old NFL patsy PITTSBURGH was coming up thanks to the BROWN AND GILLMAN influence of CHUCK NOLL..old NFL CLEVELAND became mediocre, while NEW ENGLAND emerged for a very short time..THE JETS with Namath's legs washed up, were another fading AFL club... So, to sum: AFL UP IN '68&69, NFL DOWN..NFC/AFC w/BALT BACK UP IN 70&71..AFC BUT NOT ALL OF OLD AFL, (and both AFL EXPANSIONERS for the first time) GOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS..with OAKLAND, PITTS, BALTY, DENVER, AND N.ENG., AND HOUSTON JOINING MIAMI AND CINCY to outweigh the then late mid and late '70's NFC(essentially young Dallas, old but younger in spots MINNY, young LA RAMS, and just hanging on to competitiveness).. WASHINGTON) mostly much greener NFC until the '80's.. That is what happened..
@@mikevanriel7573, Thanks for the correction. That is why I said "I believe". And, 5-9 or 3-11 what is the bleepin difference, Chiefs fans? You went his last three seasons without the playoffs, and four of his last five. And since '71-1972's season, how many AFC TITLES, AFC TITLEGAME APPEARANCES, and SUPER BOWL wins for you? How many playoff appearances pre- REID? I ROOT FOR DENVER.. SEASONS IN AND SEASONS OUT, REAL WINNERS FOR HALF A CENTURY.. 29 ABOVE .500, 35.. .500 or better IN 46 seasons, 22 PLAYOFFS, 3 SBOWL CROWNS, 8 AFCs, and SBOWL appearances..14 AFC WESTS.. and KCC has what? Enjoy the Supe Bowl win, without a good D, you won't repeat, CHEFS.
@@markschnabel601, Steve did some of the writing..John adjusted copy and changed a few words but did not write the body of most or any(?) of the scripts. When NFL FILMS shows went off with rolling credits did they show Facenda as the writer? The First Super Bowl highlights presentation was written by NFL shill Hamilton "Tex" Maule of Sports Illustrated. I believe he wrote SUPES 2&3, as well. That second one was narrated by actor Bill Woodson, his only NFL FILMS turn.. At one time, I believe Andrea Kramer worked as a writer for NFL FILMS, in addition to producer. Buzz Ringe wrote many big productions such as the 1960's recap= "Sensational Sixties", and was also a sports author. Facenda narrated that '60's wrap up.. So, there were writers..not just Steve, and not just John F. tinkering with scripts. He may have written a few. But, unless you know he wrote "..Kapp...REDWOODS" you cannot say that with assurance. And, Steve was not part of your original comment in the thread. He did write some of their stuff: "They Call It Pro Football" doc. was one of his earliest ones. JOHN was a pro voiceover artist. They generally don't write the body of their scripts, although they might tinker with them with minimal rewrite. John was also a Philly news anchor and at that market level size, he probably wrote very little of his news scripts, other than one or two tops stories of the day. His reporters handled that writing.. I was in broadcasting for 25 years. I know how it works.
yeah, but why? because of one game? super bowl 4? i mean, i am 49 year follower of them, but outside of one game, what did lanier, bell, buchanan, thomas do? good players? of course. hof? idk. one game? remember thomas, being torched by hayes in october 1970? 89 yard td, from, craig morton! i do, cause i suffered throughout that game. duane thomas gutted out buchanan, culp etc etc for 153 yards....and i HATE dallas, yet they killed us, in kc....
Two d-linemen, two linebackers and two defensive backs in the HOF. Jerry Mays was on the all-AFL team. The 60’s Packers and mid-70s Steelers are the only others defense’s remotely close to the Chiefs D from 1968-1972. I’m a Vikings fan and even they didn’t have the horses to compare with this Chief defense. Prob top five all time. They just got old all at the same time. Robinson and Mays retired. Aaron Brown’s knees went to hell. Curley Culp gets traded. Without pressure, even good d-backs get exposed. The offensive was good but too inconsistent. If the defense slipped at all, the offensive wasn’t going to bail out team. Just to win the West was a battle every year as the Raiders were always in the hunt. 1971 was the last hurrah for the rest of the decade.
The D for KC was better, more common draft built. The Jets were more AFL pre-common draft built. The Jets had a better qb for three years in their streak. If he had been much healthier, Namath was superior to Dawson who was in his mid 30's. The Jets D had some NFL overlooked talent, and some NFL rejects, but Morrall was awful inside the 30 yardline IN SB3. The Colts were not getting the turnovers v. the NY JETS that gave Morrall a short field, so he reverted into inconsistent EARL. Of the three EARLS OF BALTIMORE, he was the worst, less than WEAVER AND the PEARL MONROE.. KC in SB4 played a big play qb in KAPP that ran into a D that would not let him MAKE THE BIG PLAY AND SCRAMBLE.. BREAKDOWN: Offensive lines= Chiefs.. Receivers= Chiefs..NYJ MAYNARD on the downside, SAUER WAS VERY GOOD, B. TURNER SO-SO; TAYLOR WAS GREAT..DEEP RECEIVER FOR K.C..PITTS WAS GOOD Runners= Snell was better indiv., Chiefs deeper as a whole.. Qb= Upright Namath was better.. T. END= CHIEFS..ARBANAS KICKER= STENERUD was better, but not as much as you think.. D-LINE: CHIEFS BETTER, BUCHANAN is the dealmaker..PHILBIN PRETTY GOOD FOR NYJ.. LBackers- CHIEFS, ATKINSON was good for NYJ. GRANTHAM was very good. KC's trio was better.. SECONDARY- CHIEFS... no comparison PUNTER- KC KICK RETURNER- KC.. PUNT RETURNER- KC SPEC.TEAMS- CHIEFS. COACHING: EDGE TO KC NYJ HAD EWBANK= WON TITLES IN TWO DIFF. LEAGUES, HAD BUDDY RYAN AS D COORDINATOR.. CHIEFS HAD STRAM .. slight edge to CHIEFS.. EDGE, KC CHIEFS..
Perhaps one of the best offensive lines in NFL history
The Game was simpler: Build a Great OL to run the ball and pass protect....Or lose most games and lose your QB too midseason.
Its kind of that important too now, but Shotgun quick game has covered up many so so OLines. 2011 NYG exhibit A. 2008 Steelers. Bad run games and quick game till the D lines get tired and maybe runs and deep passes have a chance later on.
The glory years in KC....rest in Peace Len Dawson ..... you were my hero as a boy....and 48 years later...you are STILL my hero
Kansas City Chiefs huddle was the best ever..
You bet it was!
I'm a Giants fan, but I love the Chiefs uniforms.
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To chiefs kingdom. Ran across this old film of Dawson and the chiefs. Name of it. To be champions again 😁🏈🏆👈👍
Love the narration by John Facenda, the music from the Chiefs, Bengals game at Riverfront Stadium is exactly the same from the documentary, The Fabulous Sixties!!!
Such great players and great memories. Love them Chiefs.
I noticed in two scenes in this video when the opposition got the ball via fumble or interception, there was Dawson and Unitas scrambling after the defender ball carrier, putting themselves at injury risk.
Gotta love and respect the attitudes of the FB players of that era.
Although often criticized, I remember Jay Cutler pushing a defender out of bounds to stop a touchdown. He broke his thumb and it derailed the Bears playoff hopes.
Loved the way the Chiefs groundskeeper George Toma (The "God of Sod") used to put the Chiefs helmet logo and the team they were playing at home that week's helmet logo on each side of the 50 yd line. The NFL commissioner at that time (Pete Rozelle) was so impressed with Mr. Toma's work he hired him to prepare the fields for many Super Bowl's that followed
That's a great historical note. I never knew that thanks.
He maintained the condition of ROYALS, AND later as it is now.. KAUFFMAN STADIUM and its tartan turf, and then, afterward its natural grass.
The greatest groundskeeper in history..by far..GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY, CHEFS..
I wish they would do that today
@@markschnabel601, they used to do it for both football and baseball regular season games. They've never done it for basketball or hockey..
@@robertsprouse9282 how could they do that on basketball court an hockey rink?
Those where the good old days growing up in Kanasa City
I grew up in Charlotte, NC when we had no pro teams. I adopted the Chiefs as my team. Still love them.
I grew up in rural middle Tennessee -- K.C. won Super Bowl IV when I was 10, fan from then on. I'm now 60.
May Otis Taylor rest in peace.
Hank Stram was cool and unique with his tailor-made suits, trenchcoat, and game plan in his hand. Back in the 60s and 70s head coaches were colorful. Also think of Lombardi, Landry, Madden, Ewbank, Gilliam, Shula, Halas, and Noll. Coaches today are about as exciting as leftovers in the fridge. One other thing back in those days they weren't sore losers like many of today's head coaches.
WR Otis Taylor wrote a great book "The Need to Win" where he talked a lot about his relationship with Hank Stram. Stram used to use a "cherry picker" like crane device to look down on practices and then bring players into his office to discuss how they needed to improve etc. Taylor noted that Stram had a huge "sweet tooth" and used to have cases of candy bars in his office (likely perks from sponsors who he did commercials for in the Kansas City area)--This ultimately caught up to Stram as he developed diabetes later in life and died from complications from it
Thanks for your insights on the Chiefs. I'm a huge fan of K.C.
I went my first KC game in the 70s and attended more in the 80s.
I have depth knowledge of the Chiefs as well as yourself.
Keep in mind the season stats for the KC players was back when it was a 14 game season.
Mike Garrett #21 for KC (1:56) was one of the heroes of SB IV with a TD but ultimately he was traded in 1970 to San Diego. In Otis Taylor's book-"The Need to Win" he noted there was a lot of bitterness among the Chiefs about Garrett's trade and it ultimately hurt the team's chemistry
garrett's issues with stram originated, believe it or not , from a ping pong game between the two back when mike was a rookie...stram was an primping prima donna and had to always be right...i was taken back by his arrogance via the microphone when they beat the minnies in sb 4....they won, great. don't rub it in.
Garrett wanted more money, and the Hunts were cheap, and Clark Hunt is cheap..
@@graciemaemarie11jones16 Dam..... can't believe you actually said that. I guess you realize now, I ve been right all along.
Who’s here after the chiefs are back in the super bowl after 50 years?
I was a huge Raider fan back in ‘69, though I hated KC, I was an AFL fan, and so rooted for them to whip Minn in the SB........65 toss power trap, YEAH, Whoo-hoo!!
What an irony. Instead of sealing the Raiders' fate as losers on that play where 280 pound Ben Davidson pounds Len Dawson after the play, the ensuing brawl helped Oakland move into first place. Saw this one on NBC. That was the most heated rivalry in pro football at that time.
The Raiders liked to intimidate and get under other team's skins. That's what happened there. The Chiefs lost their composure. It wasn't fair; Davidson would likely have been thrown out today. But it worked then.
@@marcschneider4845 I agree. They played a roughouse style of defense, but that O-line was big and scary, too, with big Gene Upshaw running that sweep, looking for his, "victim," (lol), and Art Shell, and later, 300 pound Bob Brown.
That whole team would be banned today, along with other roughouse teams from that era; early 70s Eagles, Steelers, Bears of the late 60s, etc...
you can argue that with perhaps the exception of lambert, ham, and russel, bell linch and lanier were the best trio in history
Wess Heavner
Taylor, Carson and Banks were no slouches either
The chiefs trio were fabulous , arguably the best in NFL history , they certainly validated themselves as extraordinary. As a Steelers fan I'm astonished at each individuals excellence and ability to blend that component effortlessly into a elite team nucleus ,with lynch being the underrated person historically.
Frank Pitts was awesome. And Otis Taylor superb.
Craig Morton (Dallas QB)-pass for a TD (11:25) was to Bob Hayes (#22)--Mr. Hayes was one of the very few players in history who made the transition from Olympic Sprinter (he won the gold medal at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo) to NFL WR successfully
I think most everyone knows that.....word for word truthfully.
Hayes had untimely shaky hands sometimes..
Oh man, good old NFL Films.
I love the comment by one critic that the Kansas City Chiefs were "A Flash in the Pan." They were. A decade long flash in the pan!! The Chiefs of that era were as cutting edge as a Machete. From their owner and AFL founder Lamar Hunt, to their coach Hank Stram. In their scouting the Chiefs ignored the Lily White Racist Policies of the National Football League. They went after every great black athlete they could find. And it seemed as if they'd cornered them all!In a list of great Pro Head Coaches, Hank Stram was badly underrated. Stram was a fascinating and compelling paradox. He was an ultra conservative dapper dresser. He insisted his players follow his sartorial lead. On the field, the Chiefs were as radical as a Hippie Festival. Many thought Cowboys coach Tom Landry was footballs greatest innovator of that era. You could argue Stram left him at the Chalkboard. Stram was footballs "Inspector Gadget." Every play was an Arthur Murray Dance recital. Even at their onset, the Chiefs were ahead of the pack. Landry admitted that Strams Dallas Texans would have beaten the Cowboys in their early days. Moving to Kansas City, Stram took his High Wire Act to the Midwest. Now, the circle has been joined. Andy Reid of the modern day Chiefs has raised the bar to a 12 foot High Jump!! Speed at every position with the Imagination of a Science Fiction Writer. The Chiefs were the NFLs shining star. Perhaps all of footballs as well.
That regular season ending game in Oakland, despite being a fully-attended crowd at the stadium, the TV broadcast was _blacked out_ in the San Francisco Bay Area due to the NFL and FCC rules forbidding the broadcast of local NFL games to the home market.
It would be several years before those broadcast rules for the local team/home market, be changed.
six and o again we just keep on winning (Go Chiefs)
Thoroughly THUMPED the eventual Super Bowl winners, the Colts in the second ever Monday night game.
I was just going to say that! 44-24!
Who won the ring??
@@theprofessor8589 Not the Chiefs. They weren't even in there at the end. The crazy thing is, both entries in the Super Bowl that year suffered embarrassing losses on Monday Night football. As mentioned by Facenda, the Colts were schooled by the defending champion Chiefs, 44-24. Later on the same year, their eventual opponent in SB 5, the Dallas Cowboys, lost to the St. Louis Cardinals 38-0.
@@bobscott7440, that was a nutty year..The Rams slipped, 49ers rose up, the Giants and Cards both had their best seasons in a while..Cleveland dropped, and Cincy rose.. There was a tremendous amount of parody that year, no dynasty-worthy performances...first season of the SCHEDULE MERGER AND THE AFC AND NFC..too..a different year.
And the Dolphins and Bengals both made the playoffs for the first time. At this point, both were far ahead of their NFC expansion partners Falcons and Saints.
the theme that starts at 17:15 reminds me of late nights in the 70s peeking through my parents door watching hilites on their old 5in bw TV
Camping TV, right?
70s football best decade ever in the sport...George Blanda would be 93 yrs old in 2020..dam!!
I want Bell Bottom Rock on cassette!
Funny thing was, Summer In The City was released in 1966, not when bell bottoms were big. Still a great song!
This Chiefs defense is one of the greatest in nfl history
Definitely, IMO a top three defense all-time, at least five Hall-of-Famers.
@@69FOSTER, six= CULP BUCHANAN, LANIER, BELL, THOMAS AND ROBINSON..
On their 1970 schedule were, the Colts (11-2-1 and eventual SB5 winners), Dallas Cowboys (10-4 and eventual SB5 losers) the Minnesota Vikings a 12-2 division winner and the Raiders twice. Not an easy schedule to say the least.
Interestingly the Oakland-Kansas City rivalvry had more to do with the fact that Charlie Findlay (who owned the KC Athletics in MLB) decided to move the team to Oakland--there was a tremendous amount of bitterness in Kansas City about the move and they turned their anger on anything "Oakland"--hence their hatred for the Raiders
Learn something new everyday! Thumbs Up!
Imagine the bitterness when the core of young Athletics who got their start in Kansas City went on to win three consecutive World Series.
I also want to say that John Maddon and Hank Stram had a respectful, but prickly relationship. And when two teams are playing for something big every year that will add to the intensity of any rivalry.
Wow I lived in Topeka for yrs and have been a Royals fan since 77 And never knew that..
Finley was such an unpopular owner, the Athletics had a "crowd" of 28,000 during a World Series game!
@@davidlafleche1142, he ran an Annette Funicello operation..Mickey Mouse all the way..except Dick Williams and their drafts in the late 60's saved them..
In 1969 & 1970 this team was 1-3-1 vs The Oakland Raiders
Yep, and the Raiders were oh for the Super Bowl, themselves..
Well, actually it should have been 2 - 3.
And that one win was in the 1969 AFL championship, the last-ever AFL title game, at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.
Scenic Riverfront Stadium? That's funny.
Outside it..
I love the chiefs.
Me too. GO CHIEFS
Embarrassing road losses to open and close 1970 + their inability to defeat the Raiders doomed KC's chances for a playoff slot, let alone a repeat. The home loss to Tom Landry's Super Bowl V bound Cowboys was especially telling, serving as an ominous NFL-style reality check from the franchise that drove them out of Dallas following the '62 season. Losing to Lou Saban and Charlie Waller coached teams didn't light up the path, either. But, never mind all of that.
Fast forward a half century and it's all good. The Chiefs' fortunes have taken a major upturn since this track was posted. The wait was long, especially for surviving fans from SB IV. However, KC's success is undeniable. How much longer it may last is anyone's guess.
Wow how one play can have an impact on a season.Thr Chiefs were in a thrilling game with Oakland... their nemisis...scored late...got the ball back...ready to run out the clock...Dawson scrambled for his life and got a huge gain....Game over... Nope.... Here comes Trouble making Ben Davidson....with a diliberate spear...Otis grabs him.....yep..... offsetting penalties.Oakland gets one more chance....Blanda pulls one of his many that season.I cried...It hurts the fans....A sure win that we needed.The Chiefs never recovered from this ....and it cost them their season in the end...
Today, that would be offsetting after the play was whistled dead, thus counting the play.
That was a snag in the rules that had to be changed..
"deliberate" "nemesis" are misspelled..just trying to help..
Hi Eddie. That incident happened LITERALLY right in front of me. I was standing in the aisle that ran along the 1st base line of seats at old Municipal Stadium and I stood and watched the play. Dawson faked the handoff to the left then turned and bootlegged to the right with #73 Dave Hill attempting to get out in front of Dawson and lead the blocking. Hill eventually did get in front of Dawson and then Dawson tripped over Hill's feet and went down by himself. NONE of the Raiders touched him down to end the play and then Davidson speared him in the back with the crown of his helmet. The referee who was standing only a few feet away couldn't get the penalty flag out of his pocket quickly enough for the Chiefs players to see that it was going to be penalized and then Otis Taylor, who was tight with Dawson, jumped on Davidson, headlocked him and wrenched him down to the turf. Jerry Mays #75 jumped on top of the two as the pileup of players ended up a few yards away. The melee went for about 10 minutes with players swinging away at each other. When it was finally gotten under control, the referee called offsetting penalties, meaning the teams would have to repeat the down by going back to the original line of scrimmage to replay it. The Chiefs didn't make it and Jerrel Wilson had to punt. The Raiders got possession, Daryl Lamonica moved them down field into KC territory to the 40 yard line, where they were down to only seconds
remaining. George Blanda came on and kicked a field goal that just barely made it over the crossbar as the Chiefs 6',10" tight end Morris Stroud was told by Hand Stram to stand under the crossbar and jump up and bat the ball away if it was close. Stroud attempted to knock it away and mis-timed his jump. He would've had it had he timed it better. The 17-17 tie was gut-wrenching to accept, especially after the shenanigans that took place during the game, but history has shown it to be one vital cog in the building of one of the greatest rivalries in sports: Chiefs vs Raiders. Long live the AFL!
18.58.. Robert Holmes blasts Mel Blount..wow..
Eddie Lester Thanks for the heads up. Love seeing that cheap shot chump Blount get his hash settled.
If they hadn't had to knock heads with the Raiders all those years they would no doubt won multiple superbowls and would have been ranked amongst the other great teams.
CDs didn't exist in 1970.
12.59....what a block by two Chiefs on a Raider!
Chiefs slowly slipped down the ladder after SB 4 and really didn't recover until recently
Too much loyalty to coaches and players. Didn't make the playoffs until '86
They had qb issues between Lenny and Mahomes
The king 👑 of AFC is back 💪 .....👊✨
There that old 🎶music that chief raider. Rilvary. Love that music 😆lol
Winning one Superbowl is one but trying to repeat is another
"then- only madness remained..." -john facenda
NFL FILMS WRITERS..too
The Vikings had time to prepare for the Chiefs in the season opener (unlike about 1 week in SB IV)-once they had a better idea of who they were playing and how to deal with them the result was never in doubt (27-10)
Both games were somewhat deceptive, as total yards gained in both games were virtually the same for both teams. The perceptions were just different, as both were thought to be routs..
The Vikings had never been in a Super Bowl before and it was only the 4th one in history--where as the Chiefs had been to SB 1 and knew how to handle the media circus and all the distractions associated with it. There was only one week between the NFL Championship game and the SB which gave the Vikings little to no time to prepare for a team they had never played before. The Chiefs were full value for their win but I think the Vikings then had 9 months to figure out how to deal with the Chiefs intricate offensive formations and develop offensive plays to get around their defense
+MassVt Yes Chiefs outgained Vikings 273-237 in SB Vikes only 67 yards rushing. ..Rematch. ..Yards 220-218 Minny and 58 of KC offense on one play. ...turnovers hurt the losing team both games....
chiefs were better team on jan 11 1970... thats all that counts. many loser teams 'avenged' their sb losses... means absolutely nothing...
Chiefs had the same amount of prep in SUPE IV..
Minnesota was playing in MINNY against a lesser hungry KC team that could not have been up as much as they were for the SUPER BOWL. I am not a Chiefs fan, but your reasoning was faulty.
The game against Dallas (10:37) had extra incentive for Kansas City as there was a lot of bitterness that the Cowboys were better received in Dallas than the Chiefs were when they played there as the Dallas Texans (ultimately they were forced to move to Kansas City because of this)
Hi David. Just saw your post here. The truth about Lamar Hunt moving the Texans from Dallas to Kansas City was that the Texans were never "forced" out of Dallas. Check the internet and you'll see that the AFL Texans outdrew the NFL Cowboys in the years 1960-62 at the same facility, the Cotton Bowl. But Lamar Hunt elected to move the Texans from Dallas to another market (he also considered New Orleans & Miami, then was he contacted by business leaders in Kansas City who courted him and eventually persuaded him to relocate the team here), because of other, non-football business interests. These complicated the existence of the two professional football teams in the Dallas area, thus jeopardizing the financial viability of both. The real truth is that Hunt's father HL, was a big-Texas Oil multi-millionaire, had huge financial resources and could've easily bankrolled the team in Dallas to this day. But the Hunt's and Cowboys original owner Clint Murchison (also big Texas Oil people) were close family friends with long-standing business ties. They didn't want or need any kind of a war between the two franchises or families there in Dallas. So Lamar, who knew that he depended on the financial backing of his father in order to make things work, believed that the best thing for everyone involved was to relocate the team to a city not far from Dallas. The timing for such a move was perfect, as the value of the team as AFL champion was at it's highest and the best possible deal could be struck with another city. And I thank the Lord above that he chose my hometown of Kansas City to relocate the Texans when he did. Long Live the AFL!
If it had been played in Dallas, maybe, but outside of Mays, Dawson and Robinson, most Chiefs playing in the game were never with the AFL Dallas Texans..
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt, and the IRS told him, losing money would no longer be written off= not considering it a hobby any longer- MICHAEL MacCAMBRIDGE, PRO FOOTBALL HISTORIAN..
@@robertsprouse9282 Names of players who you left off your list, men who played for both the Dallas Texans and Kansas City Chiefs: EJ Holub, Sherrill Hedrick, Bobby Hunt, Abner Haynes, Fred Arbanas, Tommy Brooker, Chris Burford, Frank Jackson, Curtis McClinton, Smokey Stover, Jim Tyrer, Jon Gilliam, Jack Spykes, Eddie Wilson, Mel Branch, Dave Grayson, Walt Corey, Jerry Cornielson, Curt Merz, Duane Wood and Al Reynolds. Reference=Profootballarchives.com. Best wishes Robert.
@@robertsprouse9282 Michael MacCambridge, pro football historian did a tremendous job chronicling the history of the AFL, no doubt. Quite enjoyable watching the series and reading the information on various websites. But he had to get his information from somewhere prior to authoring his book and taking part in the TV series about the AFL (Full Color Football). Undoubtedly he contacted the Kansas City Chiefs organization (probably Public Relations staff members, possibly even Clark Hunt---> Lamar's son) and got the information they gave him. The information I have is from a source I cannot/will not reveal, but who was able to share a different perspective on what occurred at the time of Hunt's decision to move the team out of Dallas. With regard to the events involving professional sports teams and players, the message the public hears/reads can many times be in stark contrast with the the truth. Best wishes Robert.
The chiefs were one of the biggest teams if not theee biggest team in the NFL.
the same over handed passes that Patrick do Len Dawson was doing back then!!
awsome vid
Chiefs Kingdom
What the hell was the difference in suberbowl 4 and this game against the vikes?
Monster offensive line (at the time)
TYRER retired, and probably CTE caused him to lose it. He killed himself and his family..
The rest of the line got old..
@@robertsprouse9282Horrific event negatively impacted potential hof enshrinement,"RIP" to his unfortunate family , condolences to the family and friends of the deceased .
To be 🏆 champions again 🤓😎🙏👍👈
I think Ed podalak changed his number later in his career I want to say he changed it to (34)but I could be wrong.
First game. “It’s picked up by Jim Marshall who’s running the RIGHT way” 😂
Dawson's knees.
I see the chiefs were the first team where their players wore weird numbers.
Folks that is Mel Blount getting run over at 18:56
With all due respect, it was the 1969 Chiefs who won Super Bowl IV on January 11, 1970. The image of the Chiefs from Super Bowl IV has little to do with the 1970 Chiefs who went 7-5-2.
Its a thumb nail with the choir huddle. Good Enough!
You have got to handed to Otis Taylor for standing up for his QB. Just kicked Ben Davidsons ass. Could you imagine in todays game a WR beating up Ndamong Sue or whatever his name is 13:36
yeah, but otis cost his team a win, not that it really woulda made a difference in that years playoffs...they never woulda beat the colts again.... the afl teams that year? the jets were crippled... the raiders, well, lamonica was exposed for what he really was by the chiefs the prior january...and the chiefs were underachievers as dawson reverted back to his namby pamby days....running draw plays on third and eight....a bad year for the old afl...the only bright spot was the emergence of miami under shula, the greatest coach of all time...
suh? dirtiest player since ben davidson, seriously
@@graciemaemarie11jones16, thank goodness for all fans= those rules have been changed= dead ball with offsetting penalties after, offsetting but play counts..
@@graciemaemarie11jones16 Just saw this...... where did I day that ?? Don't you start again !!
His quarterback speared while lying on the ground. Someone had to try to protect his quarterback. As tight as their division was, where were they going without a physically functioning quarterback? And rules at that time would allow a team to basically end a players season or career if unchecked!
Bud Grant must have put those 8 months to great use with strategy, since there is no reason to think the Chiefs were not still physically larger than Minnesota as they were when they brutalized the Vikings on both sides of the ball in SB4. I'm sure anger and desire for payback was part of the equation but how could the Chiefs not use their brutal size advantage to the same effect as in New Orleans? Overconfidence? Complacency?
Sure hope they keep the Chefs name
That Monday night game had to be the worst of Johnny Us career.
To chiefs kingdom len Dawson😁👈🙏👈👍
Wish I had all 22 of the 69 and 70 Chiefs; You hear so much about Hank Stram being innovative and ahead of his time...but it's hard to see with those old angles HOW. Plus it would show what other notable teams were doing. Watching the Raiders Cheat! L Love to see how they overcame a Defense Lbs and Secondary that specialized in aggravated assault on WRs way before a ball is out.
Running against that defense was pure suicidal.
The 1970 Chiefs were in prime position to make the playoffs again with a 7-3-2 record, but two very costly road losses, at Oakland and San Diego left KC at 7-5-2. The Dolphins edged the Chiefs for the wildcard at 10-4.
10-4 is a little more than "edging" an opponent with a record of 7-5-2. The Chiefs had a fairly difficult schedule, but they really didn't look that great in some of their losses..
MassVt No, you are wrong. On the last weekend, had Miami lost and the Chiefs won, then the Chiefs would have gone and the Dolphins stayed home. 8-4-2 is a better winning percentage than 9-5. I was around then and remember hearing the set up for the last weekend.
Time base Corrector You can't really count the San Diego loss, because by the time that game was played on the last regular season day, Miami had slaughtered the Bills, 45-7 and taken the last playoff spot. The Chargers game really meant nothing.
they stunk the joint out vs dallas and minnesota and denver and san diego....dawson looked pathetic... running draw plays on 3rd and 8's
didn't matter... chiefs would never have beaten baltimore again, never...and i am a chiefs fanatic... dawson? =LOSER........... they coulda won super bowl 4 vs minnies' with mike livingston, trust me....
To be champions again .lol 🏈😂🤣🏹👍🏃🏃
'69 Chiefs
Although it was noble for Otis Taylor to attack Ben Davidson (13:36) for spearing QB Len Dawson the resulting penalties nullified Dawson's first down run and Oakland got the ball back and tied the game. Ultimately Oakland won the division with a 8-4-2 record while KC had a 7-5-2 record and missed the playoffs---if KC had won that game they would have won the division and a spot in the playoffs
I remember watching that game. Davidson was clearly the instigator, but the old "matching" penalties rule nullified the 1st down -gaining play. The game resulted in a tie, but it felt like a Raider victory.
Horrible NFL rules back then.
david graham I remember watching that game on the tube. Hank Stram placed 6'10" Morris Stroud under the Raiders goalpost to try to block George Blanda's field goal attempt. It almost worked, butility the kick was good which tied the game. It was a shame overtime was not in the rules for regular season games in 1970.
taylor cost them the division...but it wouldn't have mattered, they wouldn't have been able to beat the colts again...the monday night game was just a fluke...dawson? verry overrated. and i'm a chiefs fan for 49 years...honestly, we have NEVER had a great qb outside of joe in 93 and 94, but he was old, and broke down....
graciemaemarie11 jones Surprised you say that I grew up in the 60s as a Raider fan. My take then was Dawson was kept under wraps in Stram’s offense, a good thing, the S&B had enough trouble stopping KC’s redoubtable running game. Certainly a better Qb than the Mad Bomber.
Ed podalak was rocky blier with speed.
Listen at John facenda .👍🏈😂🤣🏹
But Baltimore (NFC) would win Superbowl, as Baltimore (AFC) would replicate 2x!
I always thought that it was ironic that an NFL team won the first ever post merger Superbowl as an AFC team. At least the Chiefs beat the Colts in the week 2 MNF game.
@@G0Chiefs, the NFC also crushed the AFC in the Pro Bowl in ('70)71's= 27-6..
Reasons?
1.The two year run of the perfect AFL player talent convergence was ending..
Old AFL players who were not good enough for the 12, 13, or 14 team NFL had accumulated enough experience by those last two AFL seasons in history to overcome any NFL physical talent-lacking shortcomings with mental performances and consistent execution on the upswing in the AFL, AND some in-prime youth...
2. The common draft allowed the AFL to sign LANIER, WEBSTER, LITTLE, K.HOUSTON, LYNCH, MARSALIS, SIMPSON, GRIESE, CSONKA, etc.. players the AFL does not get without a common draft.
AND..
3. THE NFL by overexpanding, 4 teams(*Dallas did not do any collegiate drafting until 1961) to the AFL's two, post- *1960, allowed the AFL to move up and allowed the NFL to slide with many old players hanging around to get bigger, relatively speaking, paychecks because ATLANTA, N.ORLEANS, DALLAS AND MINNESOTA had robbed the old teams of depth in younger, in-prime bottom-rung quality starters and the bench, and management had to keep the older ones around to keep the teams competitively strong.
Those are the reasons, but when the old AFL'ers hit the wall at the end of their careers in '70, the old NFL/NFC with their drafts re-emerged for two seasons, both in the inter-conference play and with the COLTS who were younger than the '68 Colts. In addition, after 1968, old NFL dynasties like G.Bay had fully slid, OLD NFL(AFC) Cleveland, after '70 had to restock, the Rams restocked, and the Redskins under Allen in '71 made trades for old Rams guys who were joined by old
AFL' ers such as MCDOLE, VERLON BIGGS AND an in his prime KEN HOUSTON from Houston..for improvement, but not championship worthy apexing..
It took another two drafts to get the AFL portion of the AFC back on a competitive track. But, make no mistake, the best of the old AFL, except for Oakland= Buffalo and KC and the Chargers were fading by mid-decade. MIAMI, and CINCY both of the AFL expansion teams headed by old NFL minds were much stronger, while SID GILLMAN an old NFL AND AFL mind was pushing Houston back up as first head coach/g.m., and then, as g.mgr..until Bum Phillips his assistant took over. Old NFL patsy PITTSBURGH was coming up thanks to the BROWN AND GILLMAN influence of CHUCK NOLL..old NFL CLEVELAND became mediocre, while NEW ENGLAND emerged for a very short time..THE JETS with Namath's legs washed up, were another fading AFL club...
So, to sum: AFL UP IN '68&69, NFL DOWN..NFC/AFC w/BALT BACK UP IN 70&71..AFC BUT NOT ALL OF OLD AFL, (and both AFL EXPANSIONERS for the first time) GOOD FOR EIGHT YEARS..with OAKLAND, PITTS, BALTY, DENVER, AND N.ENG., AND HOUSTON JOINING MIAMI AND CINCY to outweigh the then late mid and late '70's NFC(essentially young Dallas, old but younger in spots MINNY, young LA RAMS, and just hanging on to competitiveness)..
WASHINGTON) mostly much greener NFC until the '80's..
That is what happened..
@@robertsprouse9282 👍💯
Yeah what happen to us?.
The Chiefs fell apart when they fired Hank Stram.
Shit.. But Paul Wiggin wasn't the answer...
They were heading downhill under Hank..I believe KC was 3-11 in his last season..
MY BRONCOS were on the way up!
As they are again...
Robert Sprouse what else is new.
Robert Sprouse They were 5-9 record in 1974. Hank Stram final season with the Chiefs.
@@mikevanriel7573, Thanks for the correction. That is why I said "I believe". And, 5-9 or 3-11 what is the bleepin difference, Chiefs fans?
You went his last three seasons without the playoffs, and four of his last five. And since '71-1972's season, how many AFC TITLES, AFC TITLEGAME APPEARANCES, and SUPER BOWL wins for you? How many playoff appearances pre- REID?
I ROOT FOR DENVER.. SEASONS IN AND SEASONS OUT, REAL WINNERS FOR HALF A CENTURY..
29 ABOVE .500, 35.. .500 or better IN 46 seasons, 22 PLAYOFFS, 3 SBOWL CROWNS, 8 AFCs, and SBOWL appearances..14 AFC WESTS..
and KCC has what?
Enjoy the Supe Bowl win, without a good D, you won't repeat, CHEFS.
another adventure in the Redwood forrest....bahahahahaha John Facenda was brilliant!
NFL FILMS WRITERS EVEN MORE..
@@robertsprouse9282 my understanding is Steve Sabol and Facenda did much of the writing and Facenda was known to ad lib much of his narration
@@markschnabel601, Steve did some of the writing..John adjusted copy and changed a few words but did not write the body of most or any(?) of the scripts.
When NFL FILMS shows went off with rolling credits did they show Facenda as the writer? The First Super Bowl highlights presentation was written by NFL shill Hamilton "Tex" Maule of Sports Illustrated.
I believe he wrote SUPES 2&3, as well. That second one was narrated by actor Bill Woodson, his only NFL FILMS turn..
At one time, I believe Andrea Kramer worked as a writer for NFL FILMS, in addition to producer.
Buzz Ringe wrote many big productions such as the 1960's recap= "Sensational Sixties", and was also a sports author. Facenda narrated that '60's wrap up..
So, there were writers..not just Steve, and not just John F. tinkering with scripts. He may have written a few. But, unless you know he wrote "..Kapp...REDWOODS" you cannot say that with assurance.
And, Steve was not part of your original comment in the thread. He did write some of their stuff: "They Call It Pro Football" doc. was one of his earliest ones.
JOHN was a pro voiceover artist. They generally don't write the body of their scripts, although they might tinker with them with minimal rewrite.
John was also a Philly news anchor and at that market level size, he probably wrote very little of his news scripts, other than one or two tops stories of the day. His reporters handled that writing..
I was in broadcasting for 25 years. I know how it works.
@@robertsprouse9282 I stand corrected. Thank you for the insight!
@@markschnabel601, no problem. Glad to help.
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At least 3 HOF on that D! (#78, Bell/ #63/Lanier/#61,Clup)
Buchanan, Thomas
yeah, but why? because of one game? super bowl 4? i mean, i am 49 year follower of them, but outside of one game, what did lanier, bell, buchanan, thomas do? good players? of course. hof? idk. one game? remember thomas, being torched by hayes in october 1970? 89 yard td, from, craig morton! i do, cause i suffered throughout that game. duane thomas gutted out buchanan, culp etc etc for 153 yards....and i HATE dallas, yet they killed us, in kc....
graciemaemarie11 jones now add Johnny Robinson
Two d-linemen, two linebackers and two defensive backs in the HOF. Jerry Mays was on the all-AFL team. The 60’s Packers and mid-70s Steelers are the only others defense’s remotely close to the Chiefs D from 1968-1972. I’m a Vikings fan and even they didn’t have the horses to compare with this Chief defense. Prob top five all time. They just got old all at the same time. Robinson and Mays retired. Aaron Brown’s knees went to hell. Curley Culp gets traded. Without pressure, even good d-backs get exposed. The offensive was good but too inconsistent. If the defense slipped at all, the offensive wasn’t going to bail out team. Just to win the West was a battle every year as the Raiders were always in the hunt. 1971 was the last hurrah for the rest of the decade.
@@graciemaemarie11jones16 you must have only watched one or two games.
Man those guys hitting ain't they. That chiefs defense. Was. Rugged. 🤔👈
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Tackling in the 70's. Once they're already down, come in an spear them with your knees anyways 19:15
Lenny Dawson wasn't good enough for Cleveland either who drafted him.
This team was better than sb3 Jets way better.
The D for KC was better, more common draft built. The Jets were more AFL pre-common draft built. The Jets had a better qb for three years in their streak.
If he had been much healthier, Namath was superior to Dawson who was in his mid 30's.
The Jets D had some NFL overlooked talent, and some NFL rejects, but Morrall was awful inside the 30 yardline IN SB3. The Colts were not getting the turnovers v. the NY JETS that gave Morrall a short field, so he reverted into inconsistent EARL.
Of the three EARLS OF BALTIMORE, he was the worst, less than WEAVER AND the PEARL MONROE..
KC in SB4 played a big play qb in KAPP that ran into a D that would not let him MAKE THE BIG PLAY AND SCRAMBLE..
BREAKDOWN:
Offensive lines= Chiefs..
Receivers= Chiefs..NYJ MAYNARD on the downside, SAUER WAS VERY GOOD,
B. TURNER SO-SO; TAYLOR WAS GREAT..DEEP RECEIVER FOR K.C..PITTS WAS GOOD
Runners= Snell was better indiv., Chiefs deeper as a whole..
Qb= Upright Namath was better..
T. END= CHIEFS..ARBANAS
KICKER= STENERUD was better, but not as much as you think..
D-LINE: CHIEFS BETTER, BUCHANAN is the dealmaker..PHILBIN PRETTY GOOD FOR NYJ..
LBackers- CHIEFS, ATKINSON was good for NYJ. GRANTHAM was very good. KC's trio was better..
SECONDARY- CHIEFS... no comparison
PUNTER- KC
KICK RETURNER- KC..
PUNT RETURNER- KC
SPEC.TEAMS- CHIEFS.
COACHING: EDGE TO KC
NYJ HAD EWBANK= WON TITLES IN TWO DIFF. LEAGUES, HAD BUDDY RYAN AS D COORDINATOR..
CHIEFS HAD STRAM ..
slight edge to CHIEFS..
EDGE, KC CHIEFS..
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Joe Kapp had a lot of guts but little else.
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