Oh it will handle 2500 hp easily. U'll need a billet crank, Billet I beam rods etc..... but that block can handle way more than 2k hp. Aluminum motors are already making 2000+ hp.
The 5.4 is gutless, even with 4v heads, the older modular designs just didn’t have the right proportions to be super powerful in stock form, whatever improvements ford made to come up with the coyote definitely is the way to go
@@trailspeed7037 they both could do the 1hp per cubic inch with 4v heads. The 4.6 was more potent of the two because it was better proportioned (It's actually better proportioned than the coyote) the coyote has all the tricks of the trade applied on addition to being larger. If the 4.6 had those ingredients (4v VVTI, 12:1 CR, Direct injection, phosphorus coated pistons) it wouldn't be far behind. The 5.4 has a bigger stroke than a 460. Ford just didn't equip it to rev like a normal small block. No rpm, no hp.
vendediesel makes sense, I was always a fan of the 4.6 but really on the 3v version that came in the 09-10 f150s, I would like to see ford bring back the 4.6 but that won’t happen, but what would be cool is the see a 5.8 variant of the coyote that goes into the f150s and mustangs, I feel it would have its place in the market, hell it might be a replacement for the 5.0!
Good thing I looked down and saw this because I was going to comment about that billet engine. These guys are talking about half that power. If I had an engine option, I'd go MMR.
So what? You're also going to invest a crap ton more money in an LS engine to get heads that can flow anywhere near what a bone stock coyote head flows. LameShit
Evan, If you're still at the show, could you ask Dave if Ford Performance will be bringing back the Cobra Jet crate engine? If so, will it be based on this block?
@@paulhouchen9010 everyone knows that , yes stock block coyotes can and do make a 1000hp , but the stock liners will not last , your not thinking long term, I own two of them , along with a 4.6 , this is just a more suitable block for certain builds.
I wish they’d fix the Coyote engines and the GT350 engines so that they’re reliable and don’t have bore spacing/plasma liner issues. These motors are awesome but so many horror stories are keeping ALOT of people, including me, from buying a new Mustang. Good friend of mine has already had two motors replaced in his 2018 and that killed it for me. I like the iron block option but how bout Ford engineers go back and perfect the blocks in the car already?
This is a pretty dumb argument. People complaining that Ford did provide a mass production engine that would support after market power mods of more than double the horse power. So you even hear yourself and realize what an asanine criticism this is?
We found that the old cleveland blocks distorted from the factory 9 thou at 2000 revs and we were losing 50 foot pound of torque so have they tested this fact of either aluminum or iron blocks?
NM, just realized I was comparing this to another (aftermarket) cast iron block released at the same event. That one was claimed good only up to 15-1800 hp.
If the price is where it should be, more strength for less cost than a sleeved aluminum block is attractive to a lot of people. The weight isnt a huge deal for the advantages for some applications.
FORD PERFORMANCE!!! What a waste of time and money for 1500 to 2000 rpm. You already have tooling for an awesomely super strong block capable of over 2000 horse and havent made one for nearly four years..... the Australian Ford Barra 6 cylinder. Barras easily make 800 to 1000hp with $5K ..... how much to get a coyote making that sort if power? The only other cheap platform for such power is the LS. FORD you are missing a trick by not recasting the Aussie Barra!! And Im not an Aussie.
I agree that the Barra is one badass engine, but to answer your question about the Coyote making 800-1000 hp.. Ppl do it all day long around the world, just add boost!! Turbo or Supercharger easily gets it done!
Yes . 6k . That's total stupid and wsy off . Fords gone fuckin crazy . Love the idea but fuch no at 6k . It woll fail at that prices .piont .price piont was in a write up on an other website.
Dale Ostrom the LS design was GMs design, they didn’t take ideas from ford, I love ford but GM used to know how to make powerful motors, now ford does that, the old 351 Windsor’s and such would get shit on by an LS with the same upgrades while also being cheaper.
@@trailspeed7037; Ford's original Windsor design came out in 1962. With 40 years of technology behind them, I would hope chevy could do a little better. Maybe in another 20 years chevy will figure out how to put overhead cams on the LS.
Sweet, great news for the sportsman’s racer!! Great new Ford!! Again thanks for the Content Evan!!
Thank you.
1,500-2,000 HP?! That's just crazy!
Thanks for asking for the simple answers👍
Quite easy with this block.
1,500 was only a couple turbos away in the base coyote 5.0 alumimum block
Oh it will handle 2500 hp easily. U'll need a billet crank, Billet I beam rods etc..... but that block can handle way more than 2k hp. Aluminum motors are already making 2000+ hp.
3 years later and still haven't seen one of these iron block Coyote's in the wild.
You can order them just Google it.
How about a 7.3 Godzilla Crate Motor?
Push rod. But i think it can make some real power. Depends on the after market
@@MrDavidelliottjr I know it's a pushrod. I also know what shops are recieving theirs and when. I'm interested because it is a pushrod.
@@CanIbeFrank which are those shops? I heard some are supercharging it.
my neighbor is installing a twin turbo on his new 7.3L... will get my popcorn and watch it explode...lol!
Its a truck block designed for torque not high revving hp...
Not bad Ford
If all the stock coyote parts fit with room to stroke the bottom end pretty cool.
That’s awesome.
You’re a funny guy Dave, nobody better ever screw with him. I’m right there watching his back.
Thanx Ford
Very nice!!
Whats the price point, how much is it going to cost. Hands down the most important question you did not ask
$5-6k
This is gonna make an awesome truck pull motor for the limited class.
That why i like my 07 Shelby gt500 5.4 iron block😀😀
Be nice if that could find it's way in production form in the F150 and Navigator
Drag Hrvacevic 100% agree with you that’s why I kept my 09 GT500!
The 5.4 is gutless, even with 4v heads, the older modular designs just didn’t have the right proportions to be super powerful in stock form, whatever improvements ford made to come up with the coyote definitely is the way to go
@@trailspeed7037 they both could do the 1hp per cubic inch with 4v heads. The 4.6 was more potent of the two because it was better proportioned (It's actually better proportioned than the coyote) the coyote has all the tricks of the trade applied on addition to being larger. If the 4.6 had those ingredients (4v VVTI, 12:1 CR, Direct injection, phosphorus coated pistons) it wouldn't be far behind. The 5.4 has a bigger stroke than a 460. Ford just didn't equip it to rev like a normal small block. No rpm, no hp.
vendediesel makes sense, I was always a fan of the 4.6 but really on the 3v version that came in the 09-10 f150s, I would like to see ford bring back the 4.6 but that won’t happen, but what would be cool is the see a 5.8 variant of the coyote that goes into the f150s and mustangs, I feel it would have its place in the market, hell it might be a replacement for the 5.0!
This is great MMR getting 4000 hp !!! But I’m still very excited about this
Good thing I looked down and saw this because I was going to comment about that billet engine. These guys are talking about half that power. If I had an engine option, I'd go MMR.
I want one for my mud boat. On 8 psi. Pump has. Id like 750 hp. That should get me through the muck💪
MrDavidelliottjr you can do that with an aluminum block all day though.
Sounds like it will live forever than haha
It would be great to see a cast iron block for the RS and ST 🙌🏼
Price is the biggest factor for me. Keep the price for a bare block below 2500. As you can go to jegs and get a lsx motor for 3700sh..
No one cares about lsx anymore .lol
So what? You're also going to invest a crap ton more money in an LS engine to get heads that can flow anywhere near what a bone stock coyote head flows. LameShit
@@chadkent1241 what? You talking cfm? Ls3 head flows 315 cfm and coyote does 290 isn't that right?
💪😤 very nice,Looks like you're going to need front and back block plates , they eliminated the bolts for the motor mounts.
He did say in the video that it's not finished machined yet
Evan,
If you're still at the show, could you ask Dave if Ford Performance will be bringing back the Cobra Jet crate engine? If so, will it be based on this block?
Awesome!
Is it gonna have gen 3 with direct injection
REV, do you know anyone that has built a motor with this block? IF so, what did they do. cant find the block anywere.
This is how the coyote should have been all along , everyone who knows , knows the stock plasma liners are the weakest part of a great powerplant.
Week point? they are making 1000hp+ stock with turbo
@@paulhouchen9010 everyone knows that , yes stock block coyotes can and do make a 1000hp , but the stock liners will not last , your not thinking long term, I own two of them , along with a 4.6 , this is just a more suitable block for certain builds.
I wish they’d fix the Coyote engines and the GT350 engines so that they’re reliable and don’t have bore spacing/plasma liner issues. These motors are awesome but so many horror stories are keeping ALOT of people, including me, from buying a new Mustang. Good friend of mine has already had two motors replaced in his 2018 and that killed it for me. I like the iron block option but how bout Ford engineers go back and perfect the blocks in the car already?
Steve Hall listen to what you’re saying. You’re talking about longevity while making ONE THOUSAND HORSEPOWER.
This is a pretty dumb argument. People complaining that Ford did provide a mass production engine that would support after market power mods of more than double the horse power. So you even hear yourself and realize what an asanine criticism this is?
where are the bare castings done, and machining?
I am surprised that the max displacement is only 5.6 Liters and a max stroke of 3.8"
We're can u buy this block right now?????????
Why not make a coyote 5.8? To pay tribute to the old 351 Windsors
92MM pistons , jesus this thing is a monster... ... .. .. .. . ... I'd be more impressed if it came with sleeves
Doesn't need sleeves.....
Sweet
To bad the bore spacing wasn't increased
Too bad your grammar wasn't increased
Dave S. Two bard the boar space ing wasn’t in creased.🙄
...how many times do they say ..."right"....?
We found that the old cleveland blocks distorted from the factory 9 thou at 2000 revs and we were losing 50 foot pound of torque so have they tested this fact of either aluminum or iron blocks?
Need price and weight 😁
I asked before shooting, Not available yet.
6k
It's in a write up on another web page.
So sleeved al blocks are already being run safely at over 2k hp. Why add another 50lbs???
Race against one of these for your answer!
Because when you need a 3000hp coyote street car 😋 that's why
NM, just realized I was comparing this to another (aftermarket) cast iron block released at the same event. That one was claimed good only up to 15-1800 hp.
If the price is where it should be, more strength for less cost than a sleeved aluminum block is attractive to a lot of people. The weight isnt a huge deal for the advantages for some applications.
FORD PERFORMANCE!!!
What a waste of time and money for 1500 to 2000 rpm.
You already have tooling for an awesomely super strong block capable of over 2000 horse and havent made one for nearly four years..... the Australian Ford Barra 6 cylinder.
Barras easily make 800 to 1000hp with $5K ..... how much to get a coyote making that sort if power? The only other cheap platform for such power is the LS.
FORD you are missing a trick by not recasting the Aussie Barra!!
And Im not an Aussie.
I agree that the Barra is one badass engine, but to answer your question about the Coyote making 800-1000 hp.. Ppl do it all day long around the world, just add boost!! Turbo or Supercharger easily gets it done!
Can’t the coyote already handle 2000 hp when sleeved ?
Good video RIGHT
Get one while you can.
MMR 4000 hp billet block.
5k just guessing😳
Empty block. 1500 ish
@@MrDavidelliottjr nope 5000
Only the Mopars are 5k.
Looking at all the other empty performance blocks that ford sells I’d bet that this around $1k
Right....
Price
As per Ford, not available yet.
Rumor is $5-6k
Need price and weight come on 🙈
I asked ahead of shooting the video, neither was available yet.
6k
@@Spad68 6k is too much, if its around 3k it would be good otherwise youre better off sleeving a Coyote aluminum block.
Price $5-6k. Weight a 100 lbs more.
Right
Yes . 6k . That's total stupid and wsy off . Fords gone fuckin crazy .
Love the idea but fuch no at 6k . It woll fail at that prices .piont .price piont was in a write up on an other website.
It looks like it was a dud...?
Not for $5300 what a Fking joke...🤡🌏🥴🥴🥴
Ford make push rod please light simple
if you want push rods just buy cheap LS motors
Ford did make push rod engines for more than 40 years. Who do you think chevy copied the LS platform from ??
Dale Ostrom the LS design was GMs design, they didn’t take ideas from ford, I love ford but GM used to know how to make powerful motors, now ford does that, the old 351 Windsor’s and such would get shit on by an LS with the same upgrades while also being cheaper.
@@trailspeed7037; Ford's original Windsor design came out in 1962. With 40 years of technology behind them, I would hope chevy could do a little better. Maybe in another 20 years chevy will figure out how to put overhead cams on the LS.
Dale Ostrom I doubt it, I’m sure 20 years from now we’ll see the tired out 5.3 with a whopping 400hp but somehow still slow as hell.
Right