Rolex Submariner vs GMT Master II - Battle of my daily drivers
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- We take a casual look at two popular, heavily cross-shopped sports models from Rolex. The Submariner and the GMT-Master II. Please reach out with any questions or comments. Thanks guys!
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Such a good comparison video. Thanks Bruce. #feelthesteel
feelthesteel!
Nice content Bruce. You said it perfectly at 1:42. These watches are intended to be worn, enjoy it and make memories with your close ones! Very nice comparison. I am lucky enough to own both the HULK, GMT master ii and the Sea Dweller (all black limited). I must say the HULK is my absolute favorite I just love GREEN. The all black Deep Sea is also a top choice for me because the dial is so much bigger. I rarely wear the GMT just because I find myself reaching for the HULK each time :).
I only recently discovered your channel Bruce and I must thank you for the wonderful content you create for us. I appreciate that you actually wear and use watches in their intended form and use them to help create those great memories of which you speak, this specifically resonates quite a bit for me. Looking forward to more videos!
To mix it up a little (and to avoid crazy premiums on the GMT Master II) , as owner of Sub myself, I'm looking to purchase an Explorer II Polar 42mm, which has GMT function but doesn't look so similar to the Sub.
greycats99 Yeah id like an Ex2 as well.
I actually did just that...I chose the white dial Ex2 and a no date sub to have more differentiation. Glad I did that because a few months after getting the Ex2 my AD offered me the Batgirl and I took it. Love the variety with those 3 pieces - I don’t have a favorite, but feel like I wear the Ex2 more proudly for some reason
I would also like a Polar Explorer.
I have a Sub date as my daily watch. The size, comfort & the lowkey easy & brushed design make it perfect. And also the glidelock that helps adjusting the perfect fit in any situation. Just perfect.
GMT because I travel more than I'm in an ocean diving.
You've got it. Congrats.
The "root beer" GMT is my dream Rolex, but I'd use the timing bezel on the Sub more often, so that would be my choice!
Great review Bruce. I just picked up the Hulk and am in love with it. I’ve wanted one for years and seeing how good your reviews are have made it easy to want one even more. Great video and great time pieces too! Enjoy in good health sir.
How do you compare your third Rolex, the Air King on the same parameters like these two? Would it possibly be the best among the three because it fits almost all situations apart from a suit and tie event? Under the radar, simple but interesting and whacky enough even though you don't love it as much?
I love wearing the AK. Prior to the hulk it was my favorite. It is a bit tall but very wearable in most situations
Tough call... GMT at a pinch, the hype has made me want a Hulk but TBH when I first saw it I wasn't crazy, so I think its a fickle lust.
Agreed. I geeked out over the Hulk videos until I saw one in person. I was so bummed to be underwhelmed. The old and new Seamasters are more impressive in-hand, to me. I bought the 300m Great White.
Great video!!! what i like the most is " they're just watches" meaning material don't worship it. great review.
GMT Master II and Submariner HULK are defintely great watches. I slightly prefer Submariner black dial as my daily driver. I will take my GMT Master II when I travel abroad. Thanks Bruce.
Great video and collection. We both have the Air-King which I still think is amazing and underappreciated. I've also got the James Cameron 126660 but jealous of your Hulk. That green is so obnoxious but I love it and want it so bad!
I have enjoyed wearing Rolex nearly every day since March 1975. They are my favorite design. I have tried other companies for travel in dangerous countries. I like your grounded outlook and style. I use my eight models for their intended use.
I'm very fortunate to have a Hulk. But I gotta say, I love my explorer 2 polar as my daily. The Air king is next on my list.
I absolutely agree regarding Rolex as a brand! They make really great watches and my Submariner is still my most accurate mechanical watch I own. But they're still just (great) watches. You can argue a lot about the price but that's a different story which can be discussed for hours. In the end it's your OWN decision if you want to have a Rolex or not.
Great lume shots, Bruce! I absolutely agree on your comments regarding the lume comparison as well. Just compared it myself to the Panerai Luminor and my Tudor Pelagos and even it's not as bright from the beginning the longevity is what it makes stand out compared to the others!
Thanks & best regards,
Daniel
Not made by angels in heaven? What next? No Santa Clause? Soul crushing. Thanks for the excellent review. Very helpful.
Thank you Jeff
Great comparison mate, always enjoy your videos and how you convey yourself
I appreciate that
As always an awesome review/comparison Bruce! ... such a great channel!, no BS just genuine enthusiasm and experience. Also, that's an awesome mini collection you discussed right there, all 3 Rolex are Black, Green and Steel! ... very nice. Was that intentional?, or are you just a sucker for green ;-)
I am a sucker for green!!
Great smooth presentation delivery without any bias.
Bruce, thank you for your quality content as always. I already own the same 116710ln gmt and I’m deciding if I should buy the hulk versus the batgirl. Any advice? 😆
Great comparison. I prefer the sub over the gmt. But I’d prefer the all gold bluesy or the standard black sub. I can’t get into the green except for in the Kermit where the dial is still black.
Great review Bruce. How do these compare with your Air King. Is that still your favourite daily?
It was. I don't think it is the honeymoon speaking... I just love the hulk. The fit, adjust-ability and striking green color play
Hi Bruce. I'm looking into getting my 1st Rolex soon. Is it worth looking around for retail price? Or is that out of the question.
Hi great video which one in your opinion holds more value
Beautiful watches, love your channel, your reviews are very helpful.
Awesome video! I love my sub date and got it around the same time you got the hulk. I was trying to hold out for the hulk, but alas it is too popular. After a month of ownership, I have only set the time once and it is within 1-2 seconds accuracy day in and day out. The watch is awesome. Appreciate the content.
Awesome!
Bruce, great comparison video. I really enjoy hearing your personal experience of both. If you were buying your first Rolex Submariner, would you buy the current Submariner Date or wait until Rolex releases the updated Submariner Date (with a new movement, slimmer GMT lugs, etc)? I'd love to hear your personal thoughts.
Honestly I would take the first one at retail I could get. Current gen or Updated
great video Bruce! I need some advice. I currently have a black ss sub, two tone bluesy sub, black Daytona, and polar explorer 2. I have a shot at either the blue DJ 41 fluted bezel on jubille, or a BLNR on jubilee. Which one should I go for?
Great video Bruce👍🏼. I prefer the GMT if it had to be a everyday watch. My black Sub runs +2 a day and find my self always pulling the atomic clock up on my phone to check it. The 3235 in my TT SD43 runs +1 per day. I’ve yet to have a perfect running watch. Actually my Tudor BB bronze came closest at minus half second a day.
I’ve got these 2 watches as well. My first love was the Hulk but I’m a sucker for the PCLs of the GMT2. I noticed that you like the color green in your Rolexes. How about getting a Datejust 41 with the Wimbledon dial? I think that would nicely complete your steel Rolex collection.
Bruce, I have a date black sub and am seriously considering the hulk. Do you think that it is too much of the same? That dial....wow!
The hulk is my favourite, although I'd like to see it on a jubilee strap to compare the look . I wouldn't say they are everyday watches though unless your loaded. But I know what your trying to say. If I owned one though I would probably wear it daily, because it's pointless sitting in a safe , just for special occasions.
Been following your channel for awhile now and was wondering if ull ever get into high horology vintage?
Grest video. Fyi these bezels are the best at any price point imo. It's not as if bezel action gets better in more expensive brands.
I'm considering these exact models. Thank you!!
You're a lucky man Bruce! Nice pairing.
Dimensions? Clasp? Bracelet? I haven't got either but I'll go with sub because the timing bezel is so useful. You don't need a bezel to get GMT function... Just doesn't make sense. If I could make a recommendation to Rolex I'd say ditch the cyclops.
Great video thanks for sharing this with us. Good topic
I wear my 2008 Sea-Dweller 16600 and my Sub-C 114060 as my daily. The Hulk would be the only Submariner with a cyclops that I would buy. Gorgeous watch. Enjoy it in the best of health buddy. Cheers.
I have a question about the prices of the Rolex Submariner. I know it is somewhat hard to get the newest Rolex Submariner with ceramic bezel and that you have to wait several months to be able to buy one from an AD and that the demand is very high. The price of the submariner seems to almost double every 10 years or so. My question is, do you think there will ever be a ceiling to how high this model would go in price? I understand inflation and yes things get more expensive as years go by, but if this watch continues to appreciate in value like it has in the past, do you see it being priced at like 15-20k in 10-15 years? I am thinking of buying one, but it would take me about 3-4 years to save and by that point I’m wondering if it would be priced too far out of reach by that point, or if I should just buy one now, the no date model for about $8,000?
Bruce, I think you nailed it : Rolex, it’s just a good watch. Sir Wilsdorf would agree.
Absolutely, wear them, they're built for it. A Sub assures dive, but who's diving? The GMT allows swim, even dive to the bottom of yr pool, it shows you up to 3 timezones. Keep the GMT, look at IWC n Omega. Similar quality, different looks.
Beautiful watches! The green of the Hulk is awesome!
I sold my batman GMT this week for a hefty profit ,I prefer the my sub..feels better on the wrist and ill stick with it
Congrats on making a good profit man
@@BruceWilliams I have a HULK in my future
Hi I'm looking for the true visible dial and hand sizes of the submariner and deepsea models. I learnt that as the movements are the same the date window is fixed and I assume the hands are the same? The difference is the bezel and inner ring?
If you had to choose only one watch between theses which will it be ?
They are great watches - but the hype is difficult to divorce from the watches themselves. When I had my Rolex sports watches you could still walk into a shop and find them available without too much of a struggle. The market dynamics of finding and buying them now is actually alienating.
They used to be better looking without that nasty engraving on the rehaut too.
I'm in the market for a Sub, but slightly concerned about the comfort with regards to the thick case back.
I wear my watches quite snug, and concerned that the protruding caseback will put pressure on my wrist and make it uncomfortable to wear for long periods.
How do you find the comfort?
I know the GMT caseback is flatter, but I've always wanted the Sub
I have a 2023 sub. I also wear snugly and I cannot feel the thicker case back at all. But it does float a little on me when the wrist bends forward.
I swapped my Batman PCL bracelet with a Rolex Submariner brushed bracelet and it’s great! Best of both worlds.
That is cool, I hadn't thought of doing that
I have 2 subs . I purchased a ref.14060 new in '98 , and then the super case ref.116610LN in 2014. Also have an '88 ref.16700 that I bought in '88. Definitely my 14060 gets by far the most wrist time. I wear my GMT when I travel, but still haven't got used to my sub/date super case so am thinking of selling it. Do you think , from a collection standpoint thst I should keep it ? Kind of on the fence .
I would sell it. The 5 digit sub has a slimmer profile and wears better than the current model (except for the bracelet of course). Sell the new one and pick up a grand seiko maybe?
For work I wear jackets, suits or at a minimum button down with tie. What Rolex in your experience is most comfortable wearing all day? My wrist is just over 8” but I don’t like large watches. It’s hot most times where I live and a large watch is uncomfortable.
41mm Datejust
mr bacchus Thank you. The silver with fluted bezel is a favorite.
An explorer 1 is also a great watch and looks conservative as well so will go with a suit and is cheaper than the Submariner or Datejust but may be hard to source from what some people say.
Rubber straps are also comfortable more so than a bracelet and the Yachtmaster offers rubber band that does look dressy as well.
I would say the jubillee bracelet is the most comfortable. As long as you are happy with easylink. I would echo mr bacchus and say a DJ 41, Very thin and great look with a suit
Hi Bruce, may i know how long did you queue for the submariner hulk?
8 months
Bruce, which would be your next Rolex? Milgaus? Daytona? Day date?
Honestly I have no idea
@@BruceWilliams Congrats on that seamater
Another top vid, keep it up mate. Rosco 👍🏻
Both lovely 😊
Oof. Sub for a daily driver! The GMT Master II is a bit too shiny i feel.
Also FIRST. Stay safe stay cherry bruce!
Beautiful watches mate
Both, but Submariner Is 10/10 !.
I feel like the nicknames are useful. They are quick, shorthand names that most ppl know. Whose GMT? Which bezel? You say Batman and most ppl know you mean the Rolex GMT Master II, BLNR. I concede you could use the reference numbers but those are a mouthful.
The nicknames are great.
really like the gmt master ii, but i cant abide the cyclops. i also wish it had a luminous pip. not a fan of the jubilee bracelet either. full brushed oyster would be nice.
any alternatives? i really want an independent hour hand, cosc certificate, and a rotating bezel. i dont like the gs gmt, it's too big, and the sapphire bezel is really ugly.
Tudor BB GMT hits all the marks except a luminous pip.
I just picked up my Cermit after finally deciding that I wanted one. Lol As with so many enthusiasts I started out thinking Rolex was the ultimate, then when I got deep into Seiko, Sinn, etc. I decided that Rolex was overpriced bling for MBA’s and attorneys. Then I actually tried on a modern Sub and realized, “shit, there’s a reason why Rolex is Rolex…”
Great video
A little bit of of name cache. Only behind Apple and Coke :)
The Hulk is the most captivating watch Rolex offers
Handsome coupling.
Thank you
Knocks on the Sub are those fat lugs and that it is incredibly generic, though that is for good reason.
Personally, I prefer the GMT these days. More functionality, thinner, lighter, and a bit more unique. I rock a 16710 daily and pair it with a Z blue Milgauss. Wouldn’t want the Milgauss as an only watch. It’s the least comfortable of the 3 and also has the least functionality. By far the winner in the unique department though.
Hulk is just that bit more special..!👌
Dream scenario, , that I could ever afford either of these, !!
My 29178 Invicta pro diver, is on a jubilee, and runs around +2/3 seconds per day,, so it looks good, and I've saved £10000,,
But if I won the lottery,,, lol,,
If you become a value investor that aims at quality in the market you could easily down the line afford a Rolex.
I turned $20000 into $1.2 million over three decades.
@@bighands69
Bull shit, ,
Good video Bruce! I own the BLNR on jubilee -- one thing I can say, as an owner since July 2019, the jubilee does not show any wear at all unlike PLCs on the oyster. So, if one likes the sparkle of the polished links AND wants no visible scuffs on the bracelet - get the jubilee. I also owned a ND SubC for two years and can attest to the fact that the brushed oyster does hide wear very well -- it's just not as shiny and attention grabbing. You can check out my new Daytona and Batman here: ruclips.net/video/rCMtlge7VQw/видео.html
Subbed
Best reviewer on RUclips.
I'm on a list for a sub.
Do you think it's redundant to add a GMT as well?
Enjoy your watches it's about the journey
Bruce, you always claim to be a Seiko nerd but you own 3 Rolexes (more then your no. of Seikos)? Why no Seiko LX (GMT version) or a Grand Seiko?
Good question
How about an answer to my question?
Simple I haven't found an LX or GS I love enough to pull the trigger yet. You can be a fan of something and not own a dozen of them lol
So if we're going with superheroes, this GMT would be the Green Lantern. 😉
I like that
The names are dumb. Agreed.
You think Rolex is just a good watch yet you have 3? Come on Bruce, you have become a Rolex fanboy and abandoned Seiko. You have gone from owning 3 Marinemasters, a Grand Seiko, SKX, the Willard reissue, and various turtles to just one Sumo? I know I have missed a few and I like your recent philosophy about less is more but just one Seiko? All this from a reviewer that publicly stated that Seiko is his favorite brand. Not anymore it isn't. And that's cool, people change. Just accept the obvious and embrace the Crown. :)
Galaga lol no... you can have a favorite brand and not own multiple. I love Ferrari and know a lot about the brand yet I don't own one. My ford is a good car but not my favorite. Seiko can be my favorite brand whether I own 12 or 0. I love Rolex as much now as I did when I didn't own one. I think you are oversimplifying things into possessions which dismisses a lot of what makes an item favored. What will you say if I sold the crown and bought a Patek?
Bruce Williams Better to simplify things than to compare a relatively attainable item to an impractical Ferrari. Ask yourself this. Choose one watch from your current collection or any watch for that matter. Try and put value aside for a moment but choose only one. There is your answer.
@@galaga8834 I don't own it yet but I will
Bruce Williams That Royal Oak is near.
you are about the hype, you dont like it!!
Classic, you slag off the GMT names as “lame” then you call your 116610LV a “hulk” 😂🤣😂🤦🏻♂️, not a fanboy, but you own three, another classic 😂🤣😂🤪
im jealous can i work for you
One day, I will own a Rolex.
Remember when Bruce Williams used to review affordable and attainable watches?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Joking. I love both these watches, keep these reviews coming!
Hulk all day
both watches looks exactly the same except the color. buy something different man!! boring
You look stoned
Battle of the boring and unoriginal watches
What do you wear most days Adriano?
an invicta, my guess...
Adriano Nast I’d be very happy to own either of these. Geesh. I’ve always thought the Sub as the original and also one of the most copied watches which may lead it to feel unoriginal but not how I view it. Give credit to Rolex as a master marketing machine and maker of fine watches. Still waiting for my first one. 🤗
Btw, anyone want to donate a GMT II or Kermit...much appreciated. 😂
Wasnt unoriginal when Rolex originally came out them. Now they are so commonly copied they can seem unoriginal.
Great video thanks for sharing this with us. Good topic