Why we love twister pins : Pin action is better It’s life lasts longer than the average wood pins Why we hate twister pins : It slides It isn’t even made out of wood
We have been using the n.p.s deck treatment which has helped a lot, far less pins sliding around like on ice . I will admit the twister pins might last longer but the sooner we get back to old pins the better.
My favourite bowling bin. Yes it does have a strange sound to it, and unfortunately yes apparently it slides along the deck like unless a player bowls hard. So imagine if the pins inventor understood there are people that hate the twister pin and decided to invent a new edition to it, one that is stillreally strong, logo still lasered on, but actually sounds a little similar to wooden pins, and also easily falls over if pushed, I bet you’d still hate them
I love the Twister Bowling Pins, I have no idea why one of they just slides around on the pin deck, but they at least last ages especially the logo. But although you don't seem to like them at least there is something to bowl with
I got to bowl with twister pins for the first time yesterday, and your right they suck, we left a lot of off spot pins, 10 pins, and 4 pins all day long. In order to get a strike you have to hit light on the head pin or go dead flush, or else it will either be the 4 pin or the 10 pin, not mention the pin carry is garbage. Yeah I'd rather prefer wood pins.
they seem to get better with age but not much, try some pin deck treatment, this sounds daft but we mop decks with dirty water and allow to dry, it makes for a tackyier surface,
If you can't adjust it's not the pins fault, minus the sliding. The sliding can easily be fixed by NPS pindeck treatment or no-slide spots you put on the pindeck. The latter works very well for me. We got Twisters this summer, and all our bowlers average is the same on Twisters as before, I've even increased my average here a fair bit.
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy. But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of bowling.
@@DiscontinuedForNow215 Sound doesn’t matter for Twisters cause Inconstant Broken Wood Pins are worse. Sure, buy new pins each 5 years but can you save more money on pinsetter parts ? Probably that’s gonna be a waste of money. Try to watch this video and listen to these dead Brunswick Max Pins and oh dead AMFLITE Pins are even worse: ruclips.net/video/O5tCn8OCmXo/видео.html
@@PinoyBowlerGS92late reply but that’s fiesta mall, the bowling alley there has not been operating for 5 years now. So the entire bowling alley is pretty much dead lanes.
Variables come into play here. The old surlyn covered wood vs. composite synthetic is always a factor. Phenolic pin deck surface vs. wood or synthetic. Stripped deck surface vs. oil carry down. The texture of the base of Twisters vs. other pins. Finally, of course, the center of gravity & internal void location of the woods compared to that of the Twisters. Personally prefer the wood pins over the Twisters. Do completely understand the economical & financial advantages of bowling alleys opting to go with the Twisters.
And Brunswick in pba the 8 pin slide to the 7pin and still standing because it hit a pin preventing it from falling it doesn't happen much often with sliding Brunswick bowling pins
A few years ago, with Twisters, slid the 4-Pin all the way across the deck. It slid to the right between the 6-Pin & 10-Pin spots without toppling. Proceeded, with the spare conversion, to bounce the pin out of the pit. The pin landed & rested back right over on it's original 4-Pin spot. 2 memorable shots!
Interesting point! Don't recall ever seeing Twisters on national television during any P.B.A. event? Seems to be predominantly Brunswick Max pins observed at P.B.A. events? Could be wrong?
My first time bowling on twisters, caused the pinsetter to have an out of range cycle (the twister pin slid between the holes of the setting table so it couldn’t pick the standing pins up)
I absolutely love Twisters. Have had the same pins (mostly) for over 4 years. They fly truer and increase carry. Of course, we have a Flex Walker with the Pin Deck treatment that makes the deck a bit tacky to stop sliding pins (mostly). It took a full season for most of my bowlers to get adjusted to sound and action and once they saw their carry increase, it was glorious. These things FLY. Do to these pins being harder than the ball and the bellies staying (mostly) without denting, they fly upwards not backwards. This allows the pins to hit more at the top where it is easier to knock over pins. Sure the sound is different, but hearing dead wood on a lane and having to dig through a set of 23 pins during league when all the lanes are running to find the dead pin blows more. Wood breaks, inside and out, most of the pin damage I have seen on Twisters has been machine caused. You'll be finding more of these bad boys behind machines after a competitive Men's league for sure! Oh, and the carry is great. Sure you'll leave more 4's or 9's as a righty, but those are easier to pick up than a 10 all day. This increases averages across the house. Love em.
You know what, just buy Pinnacle Pins, those are the high end wood pins Edit: or just buy Ultra Strike Maker Pins, those are the same brand as Kegel and most Brunswick GS Centers use those.
I don't own the place and don't have a job now thanks to covid, the owners have several Ally's and tried these pins in here just as a trial, it will be the last. Thanks for comment.bye.
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy.
You can get the Twister Pin if you want, I mean it has a Much longer life than wooden pins, and the words and logos are pretty much permanent, once they're old or used a lot just get dints in them, and do sometimes get a little bit dirty after a while in the pinsetters, while wooden pins get dirty/crack/break/fade. However with the Twister Pin they sound quite odd and weird when bowled over so that's why some people don't like it.
@Pinz n Pinsetters I have Brunswick and AMF right now I do want twister pins to add but I can't afford shipping ☹️ I have one linds pin I really want a twister pin for my collection only issue is I can't afford shipping ☹️
@Pinz n Pinsetters I know a center I go to off and on they have twister pins however they ain't selling em I want to start adding those to my collection and I think it would be a awesome to have some of those awesome twister pins only issue is I can't afford shipping and I really want a twister pin 🙂
they were here when I arrived, the company owns several centres which use a.m.f pins, they tried them out here just for a trial, there not all bad. they are much tougher and would last a lot longer than wooden pins.
So, Back in a day you are new mechanic when you work with Twisters in GSX. Right ?. But we like the wooden pins better cause of the sound and I like Twister Pins durability but not the sound. But there some AMF, Brunswick and more pins that you might not know if its real or fake just by the tell of the logo, white color and durability of the wood inside
yeah they can be sliding around like Disney on ice especially at the end of the day when a lot of lane oil builds up on decks, we use N.P.S pin deck treatment from the kegal company which helps a lot .
Seems like those twister pins will be much harder to get a strike because they slide a lot and you won't get a lot of pin action. Seems like they are coming out with things to hinder you from getting High games. as long as they continue to put more technology in these bowling balls that should offset what these pins are doing. Who knows someone with come out with a bowling ball that after you throw it you can press a button and your ball will extend out to the sides so you can knock over extra pins. 🤣
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy. But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of bowling.
What the pins are doing in this video is actually common with Twisters. Usually, people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy. But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of bowling. And if you hate them because of their sound, just leave.
Im not really that into the mechanics of the game,the video was just to show how bad the pin slide is especially when kids are playing. league play usually goes o.k.
@@SupremeGang420 nice was it easy to get to I've already got five four from a bowling alley I go to I got four from there one was in a trade now I got another one coming from way down south of where I live from a RUclipsr and I'm happy I was able to get my hands on some twister pins wouldn't mind more but can't afford to ship
@@CaptianNamco yeah it was super easy to get to I didn’t even have to climb in to the dumpster to grab it my bus stop in high school was at the bowling alley so I was able to get it that way
But AMF made both of their own pins and Brunswick Pins now, their pins are terrible quality nowadays. I love Twisters but I suggest just clean the pindeck to prevent sliding.
I agree. Those pins are trash. Synthetic says it all. It totally takes away from the classic sound and feel of bowling. I'm pretty sure you'll never see these pins used in the pba
PBA used the Twister pin for the USBC Masters (then called ABC Masters) in 2001, 2003, and 2004. These pins were used in the Weber cup for several years in the mid to late 2000's. I actually like these pins because of how different they are from wood pins, they are also more durable (one of the pros of using this pin).
Agree, there's nothing comparable to that beautiful sound of brand new wood pins on a 17 1/2 board booming strike. Miss it & would love to hear it again!
@@LANESxNOWONLYx higher scoring only in first world countries...go to 3rd World countries and no matter if pins are wood or synthetic, the scores are less than 200 all the time. If you want "honor scores", don't coach league bowlers and let them be inconsistent.
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Why we love twister pins :
Pin action is better
It’s life lasts longer than the average wood pins
Why we hate twister pins :
It slides
It isn’t even made out of wood
We have been using the n.p.s deck treatment which has helped a lot, far less pins sliding around like on ice . I will admit the twister pins might last longer but the sooner we get back to old pins the better.
Wood pins are the best
Those gsx gs98 gs96 pinsetters can get Damaged faster by twister pins
@@strikdevroblox9079 Twister PIN IS THE BEST!!
@@aydengaines6049 twister is the best
@@azraelgerilyanto124 i agree I actually have one in my collection now and I usually score pretty good with twisters
My favourite bowling bin.
Yes it does have a strange sound to it, and unfortunately yes apparently it slides along the deck like unless a player bowls hard.
So imagine if the pins inventor understood there are people that hate the twister pin and decided to invent a new edition to it, one that is stillreally strong, logo still lasered on, but actually sounds a little similar to wooden pins, and also easily falls over if pushed, I bet you’d still hate them
Yeah its a pain every day keeping decks clean and free of lane oil as we oil our lanes most days for leagues,
I love the Twister Bowling Pins, I have no idea why one of they just slides around on the pin deck, but they at least last ages especially the logo.
But although you don't seem to like them at least there is something to bowl with
Yeah and frankly, if Bowling has to go extinct because of wood, be grateful you have Twister pins.
That's the only con about the Twister pins. They slide without falling, going out-of-range. Otherwise, they're pretty awesome!
Twister pins are awesome i agree i visit a center in Illinois and they have twister pins they have a different sound when your ball strikes the pins
I found one in the dumpster
@@SupremeGang420 i wish i could have a twister pin nice find
@@CaptianNamco Thanks
The sounds they make are disgusting tho.
Also I could hear the music named: “Treat you Better” outside the pinsetters.
I love brunswick pins
I got to bowl with twister pins for the first time yesterday, and your right they suck, we left a lot of off spot pins, 10 pins, and 4 pins all day long. In order to get a strike you have to hit light on the head pin or go dead flush, or else it will either be the 4 pin or the 10 pin, not mention the pin carry is garbage. Yeah I'd rather prefer wood pins.
they seem to get better with age but not much, try some pin deck treatment, this sounds daft but we mop decks with dirty water and allow to dry, it makes for a tackyier surface,
If you can't adjust it's not the pins fault, minus the sliding. The sliding can easily be fixed by NPS pindeck treatment or no-slide spots you put on the pindeck. The latter works very well for me. We got Twisters this summer, and all our bowlers average is the same on Twisters as before, I've even increased my average here a fair bit.
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy.
But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of
bowling.
Nothing more satisfying than the crash sound of true wooden pins! Not these garbage plastic synthetic pins!
0:01 what's wrong with these pin-- Oh, ok. I see. They slide without falling over. That makes sense.
Jim also their sound
@@DiscontinuedForNow215 Sound doesn’t matter for Twisters cause Inconstant Broken Wood Pins are worse. Sure, buy new pins each 5 years but can you save more money on pinsetter parts ? Probably that’s gonna be a waste of money.
Try to watch this video and listen to these dead Brunswick Max Pins and oh dead AMFLITE Pins are even worse: ruclips.net/video/O5tCn8OCmXo/видео.html
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 ooh yea, those pins sound absolutely cooked
@@PinoyBowlerGS92late reply but that’s fiesta mall, the bowling alley there has not been operating for 5 years now. So the entire bowling alley is pretty much dead lanes.
Variables come into play here. The old surlyn covered wood vs. composite synthetic is always a factor. Phenolic pin deck surface vs. wood or synthetic. Stripped deck surface vs. oil carry down. The texture of the base of Twisters vs. other pins. Finally, of course, the center of gravity & internal void location of the woods compared to that of the Twisters.
Personally prefer the wood pins over the Twisters. Do completely understand the economical & financial advantages of bowling alleys opting to go with the Twisters.
I'm sure sliding is a thing with these, but I've witnessed the same thing happening with Amflite II. It has to be more the pindeck.
And Brunswick in pba the 8 pin slide to the 7pin and still standing because it hit a pin preventing it from falling it doesn't happen much often with sliding Brunswick bowling pins
A few years ago, with Twisters, slid the 4-Pin all the way across the deck. It slid to the right between the 6-Pin & 10-Pin spots without toppling. Proceeded, with the spare conversion, to bounce the pin out of the pit. The pin landed & rested back right over on it's original 4-Pin spot. 2 memorable shots!
Pretty sure these are like that because they are used at family bowling alleys so it’s easier for kids, im pretty sure they use Brunswick pins in pba
What about AMF they are not used in PBA well they was
Interesting point! Don't recall ever seeing Twisters on national television during any P.B.A. event? Seems to be predominantly Brunswick Max pins observed at P.B.A. events? Could be wrong?
My first time bowling on twisters, caused the pinsetter to have an out of range cycle (the twister pin slid between the holes of the setting table so it couldn’t pick the standing pins up)
I absolutely love Twisters. Have had the same pins (mostly) for over 4 years. They fly truer and increase carry. Of course, we have a Flex Walker with the Pin Deck treatment that makes the deck a bit tacky to stop sliding pins (mostly). It took a full season for most of my bowlers to get adjusted to sound and action and once they saw their carry increase, it was glorious. These things FLY. Do to these pins being harder than the ball and the bellies staying (mostly) without denting, they fly upwards not backwards. This allows the pins to hit more at the top where it is easier to knock over pins. Sure the sound is different, but hearing dead wood on a lane and having to dig through a set of 23 pins during league when all the lanes are running to find the dead pin blows more. Wood breaks, inside and out, most of the pin damage I have seen on Twisters has been machine caused. You'll be finding more of these bad boys behind machines after a competitive Men's league for sure!
Oh, and the carry is great. Sure you'll leave more 4's or 9's as a righty, but those are easier to pick up than a 10 all day. This increases averages across the house.
Love em.
Take sand paper to the bottoms of the twisters and roughen em up a bit and they won't do this lol. oh and clean pin decks too, that'll help as well.
Only seen these comments now, we clean decks every day, maybe too clean? Ha ha.
i Have a 10 SET OF "TWISTER PiNS" & From The Look Of This ViDEO , TWiSTERS Are Much Well Balanced Pins 🤔🤔🤔
Twister Bowling Pins Are Useless
0:41 this fall easy but this 1:05 doesn’t
Brunswick pins are my favorite
You know what, just buy Pinnacle Pins, those are the high end wood pins
Edit: or just buy Ultra Strike Maker Pins, those are the same brand as Kegel and most Brunswick GS Centers use those.
I don't own the place and don't have a job now thanks to covid, the owners have several Ally's and tried these pins in here just as a trial, it will be the last. Thanks for comment.bye.
Pinz n Pinsetters. Interesting, I would buy those after the Max Pins were die out
I hate twister pins anyway because the sound when they crash I like the other ones better and twister pins slide that harder to get a strike
I bowl at a center in Illinois they have twister pins i don't have thst hard of a time getin a strike at all :)
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy.
@@CaptianNamco You're saying they suck because you can't carry strikes as well? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of
bowling.
I so want some twister pins but can't afford em i wanna add synthetic pins to my collection
I heard taking a wire brush to the bottom of them will help LOL
i collect bowling pins i like the crowned brunswick max pins i even hope to add twisters to my collection are they good for collecting ?
You can get the Twister Pin if you want, I mean it has a Much longer life than wooden pins, and the words and logos are pretty much permanent, once they're old or used a lot just get dints in them, and do sometimes get a little bit dirty after a while in the pinsetters, while wooden pins get dirty/crack/break/fade.
However with the Twister Pin they sound quite odd and weird when bowled over so that's why some people don't like it.
Oh yeah they're good I found one for free in the trash a little banged up but it works.
@Pinz n Pinsetters I have Brunswick and AMF right now I do want twister pins to add but I can't afford shipping ☹️ I have one linds pin I really want a twister pin for my collection only issue is I can't afford shipping ☹️
@Pinz n Pinsetters I know a center I go to off and on they have twister pins however they ain't selling em I want to start adding those to my collection and I think it would be a awesome to have some of those awesome twister pins only issue is I can't afford shipping and I really want a twister pin 🙂
@@crazymonkeys7802 I do want twister pins badly but I can't afford shipping ☹️
Then, Why did you guys order these ?
they were here when I arrived, the company owns several centres which use a.m.f pins, they tried them out here just for a trial, there not all bad. they are much tougher and would last a lot longer than wooden pins.
So, Back in a day you are new mechanic when you work with Twisters in GSX. Right ?. But we like the wooden pins better cause of the sound and I like Twister Pins durability but not the sound. But there some AMF, Brunswick and more pins that you might not know if its real or fake just by the tell of the logo, white color and durability of the wood inside
He didn't now that at first so ha
These twister pins are rilly strongest pins so far
Bowling Pin is Bowling Pin
I agree they are crap they don't have the good pin action like wood pins do wood pins are the best
Where can you buy twister pins? I want one
Ask the employees at the bowling alley
How does that happen?! There must be WAY more pin off spots when people use twister pins
yeah they can be sliding around like Disney on ice especially at the end of the day when a lot of lane oil builds up on decks, we use N.P.S pin deck treatment from the kegal company which helps a lot .
Seems like those twister pins will be much harder to get a strike because they slide a lot and you won't get a lot of pin action. Seems like they are coming out with things to hinder you from getting High games. as long as they continue to put more technology in these bowling balls that should offset what these pins are doing. Who knows someone with come out with a bowling ball that after you throw it you can press a button and your ball will extend out to the sides so you can knock over extra pins. 🤣
That's common with twisters. Usually people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy.
But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of
bowling.
What the pins are doing in this video is actually common with Twisters. Usually, people need to play using less entry angle and smoother shapes with them. It's a different pin carry meta-game than traditional plastic-shelled wood pins that are seen in most centers. They are VERY scoreable, but ONLY if you get your shape through the pins correct, because they fly like crazy. But people who just say "tWiStEr pInS SuCk bEcAuSe i cAn't cArRy"? Dude, adjusting to different situations is a part of bowling.
And if you hate them because of their sound, just leave.
Im not really that into the mechanics of the game,the video was just to show how bad the pin slide is especially when kids are playing. league play usually goes o.k.
@Nate Craven their sound sounds like you talking
@@kplinger I appreciate the kind compliment, sir. :)
np i got it from my corny insults library
Twister pins are amazing and I really want some for my pin collection and can't afford one even shipping would suck for me too
I found one for free in my local bowling alleys dumpster
@@SupremeGang420 nice was it easy to get to I've already got five four from a bowling alley I go to I got four from there one was in a trade now I got another one coming from way down south of where I live from a RUclipsr and I'm happy I was able to get my hands on some twister pins wouldn't mind more but can't afford to ship
@@CaptianNamco yeah it was super easy to get to I didn’t even have to climb in to the dumpster to grab it my bus stop in high school was at the bowling alley so I was able to get it that way
@@SupremeGang420 nice 🙂
Brunswick pins have the best design
Pinz n Pinsetters well you’re not wrong
Those pins are made of 100% synthetic
True, composite plastics.
Qubica pins and Brunswick pins are best quality.
But AMF made both of their own pins and Brunswick Pins now, their pins are terrible quality nowadays. I love Twisters but I suggest just clean the pindeck to prevent sliding.
twister pins are gay just like AMF pins Every time i go bowling these AMF pins slide instead of fall
I agree. Those pins are trash.
Synthetic says it all. It totally takes away from the classic sound and feel of bowling.
I'm pretty sure you'll never see these pins used in the pba
The lanes have carry down tracks by the bowling balls.
PBA used the Twister pin for the USBC Masters (then called ABC Masters) in 2001, 2003, and 2004. These pins were used in the Weber cup for several years in the mid to late 2000's. I actually like these pins because of how different they are from wood pins, they are also more durable (one of the pros of using this pin).
Agree, there's nothing comparable to that beautiful sound of brand new wood pins on a 17 1/2 board booming strike. Miss it & would love to hear it again!
However hearing broken Wood Pins is much worse, yet the pin action is dead when its more than a decade old.
Twister pins are awesome and I hope to eventually get one like I have said can't afford shipping or I'd buy one online myself
twister pins are just trying to make a sport easier lmao
These pins have contributed to higher scoring, that's for sure.
@@LANESxNOWONLYx higher scoring only in first world countries...go to 3rd World countries and no matter if pins are wood or synthetic, the scores are less than 200 all the time. If you want "honor scores", don't coach league bowlers and let them be inconsistent.
But are cools
Oh twister pins... made for nothin’
EURO bowling pins......
The twister p8ns are really shit
Why twister pins are shit?
Hey, the pins tend to slide around more so we get a lot of off spots, and yes we clean decks every day.the n.p.s deck treatment from kegal works well.
I can see now
Sand paper