Buy these pedals on on Reverb Click Here reverb.com/mar... Signal Chain, Fender Telecaster into the Klon Centaur Overdrive then NUX Horseman then into the Vox AC30
The Nux sounds very close. Sadly though, it doesn't cost enough money. I like to really overpay when I buy a pedal. Now, if Nux would raise the price to at least $429, I'd be proud to own one and my tone snobbery could ramain intact.
@@AP-ui7oi Finally... Somebody gets it! YES, it is literally impossible for an affordable pedal to sound good. That's just simple physics. Besides, how do you even know you're better than other guitarist if your pedalboard doesn't cost more than theirs?! Someone answer me that! BTW, That's actually how I won the audition in my band. Sure, the guy I was up against was cleaner, faster & more tasteful than me but get this... He was using a GENERIC power supply! Not to mention, his shoes were from Shoe Carnival! (How embarrassing right?!). So yeah, the band took one look at my Swedish handmade power supply & my designer purple mohair boots and BANG... the gig was mine. Now come on, what more proof do you need?
I love people imagining differences between what are clearly identical sounds. Got quite a few laughs from people insisting they could hear a difference in this thread. I get it, it's tough trying to justify paying $5k for a boost pedal that a Chinese company just duplicated to perfection for less than $70. Nux nailed it. They make excellent equipment at a reasonable price. Great demo.
Lol.. the difference is there, I hear it on my cheap earphones. It's a subtle resonance on the high end in Horseman. Probably small eq tweak would solve the problem
@@qu4zz4rbuddy, if you want to embarrass yourself talking nonsense like this I’m not going to stop you. Reread your own comment, if you’re a smarty you’ll eventually see how silly you sound.
The Nux has a subtle "edge" to it, a bit sharper than the Klon. This is most likely due to the silicon clipping diode, rather than the germanium one which the Klon uses (tends to be a bit softer, creamier if you will), but still, the differences are very subtle and in a mix the differences would be wholly unnoticeable. If anything, the Nux shows that the most important aspect of a pedal is the actual circuit, rather than the individual parts that make up the circuit. Josh Scott from JHS talks a lot about this, and the Nux vs the Klon is probably one of the best example I've seen of this ever.
I prefer the sound of the Horseman myself, and at the end of the day I can't for the life of me see why the Klon's prices are so over inflated. They're nothing special as far as I'm concerned. Give me the Horseman over the Centaur anyday. 👍
It’s unfortunately simple supply and demand. People are willing to pay the downright stupid prices for them. So people who want to sell them will continue to ask for those stupidly high prices.
They sound pretty close to me. Unless you’re a collector looking for bragging rights and a museum piece, I couldn’t justify the price of a Klon of the Nuxx.
I actually like the Nux over the Klon. It's a little teenie bit "sharper" or edgier which I prefer. And yeah, the price difference of 6000 dollars is nice as well 😄
Just for kicks, I got the Nux Horseman last week because I watched Shnobel's Green Rhino (90s original and MKIV) comparisons to the Centaur. I own a Rhino MKIV (and 6 other Way Huge pedals) and based on this video too, I wanted to see if the Rhino was really that close to a Centaur's sound using the Horseman as some sort of reference. Turns out you can get the Rhino close to the Horseman/Centaur tone, but my real surprise was that the Nux Horseman sounded clearer and fuller than the Rhino as soon as I turned it on! I had to really tweak all of the Rhino's knobs to compensate tone differences and get it somehow close to the Horseman's sound quality when increasing or decreasing its gain. And I have to tell you that I absolutely love my Rhino and Pork Loin overdrives. So I just wanted to post that I highly recommend the Horseman not because it closely sounds like a Centaur, but because it's a quality and super easy to operate OD pedal, AND for little money. You won't regret it at all.
SO FAR Ive got 3 NUX Horsemen!!! two used, one brannew, 50€ a piece!!! FOR Years Ive been sculpting my tone, QUITE happy, ha haa, BUTT this little brown box brings more sponginess/dynamics/note definition to the tone, AND I have a long list of pedals before it: SIMBLE-BOSS OD3-DOLAMO D8-INCA KOLA-BOSS DYNA DRIVE...!!!!( AND A DOD LOOKING GLASS AFTER IT... I MAY not have all the pedals on all the time( for example the Boss Dyna is for sustainy dark jazz, and the DOD Glass juust finishes the tone with some cool coating,,, BUTT : the NUX Horseman is a marvellous pedal!!! and itll stay on my "board" forev... 🛒🛒🛒
TwoYs. Totally agreed. I went from playing via amps to 100% digital straight to the mixer. Playing live. Nobody noticed anything, the one guitar nerd after the show just went n talk about my chops n that.
@@jixxxxer17 The drunk bar gals are only there for the nostalgia dopamine hit. So long as you give 'em their red meat and you can be playing through an 83' Crate practice amp and a Bentley Series 10.
Josh Muz Whatever works for you dude. I have 3 from the early 90’s, and to me, as to many respected other studio players, it’s the best ever. But whatever rocks you boat. It’s all good.
James Cassidy I’ve never analyzed the circuit, but I doubt it. The ODR-1 is much older, I think (early 90’s German tech) Yes, it sounds very different. That’s why I like it better. Definitely NOT a clone Klon.
Ok, that was incredible. For reference: Im watching youtube on a pc with AMD guts and Edifier studio monitor speakers. I turned my back to the pc screens and, using my bluetooth Razer mouse (side buttons set for volumes), I controlled the volume from low to high and all nuances between. I never saw which pedal was being used. Just listened intently. I genuinely can not tell the difference. Maybe in person its different. But on my home rig, and it aint too shabby(!), there is no difference at all. Im definitely buying a Nux Horseman!
this nux sounds awesome!!!! And it’s only $69 😁 and it has two modes Gold and Silver, and true or buffered bypass.....gonna need to get one of these!!!
Important thing to remember is no to real Klons are going to sound exactly like each other as well. If you like the vibe Horseman seems a great option, with some cool features and diminutive size. For collectors nothing but the real thing will matter, regardless of sound.
Good job, Nux was impressive. I would suggest and plead you do comparison between Nux and some other popular Klon clones, Tumnus, Archer, Soulfood. I also would be very happy to see how well Nux works pushing other overdrives and amps compared to the Klon, that would be the main meaning for me getting one.
I bought the Nux Horseman a few months ago and I absolutely love it. Nux and a few other budget effects manufacturers have been killing it in recent years! It's no longer necessary to spend a lot of dough on effects pedals.
I love Mooer as well, and Joyo. My trinity for the best, cheap, chinese effects pedals is NuX, Mooer and Joyo, but I also feel Mosky is starting to bark up that tree as well, and for even less money.
@@FretLevelMidnight I heartily agree with the first three, but I only own two Mosky pedals. My Mosky Golden Horse died just last week within a year of acquiring it (apparently this is not uncommon) and I also own a Mosky Spring Reverb (great sounding pedal) but it does weird things occasionally like not turning on. I'm starting to understand why Mosky are the cheapest of cheap pedals.
I bought a klon centaur paddle back in the 1990's. Probably for $200. I just didn't hear much come out of it and I ended up selling it. I thought it was overrated and didn't do as much as my standard Tube Screamer or even my Blue Boss pedal. I wish I still had the pedal only because I could sell it for so much money had I held on to it.
I think there is slightly more bass in the Horseman, and maybe slightly more gain at the same position of the gain knob. Overall, the Horseman seems like a good deal if you don't have $2500 to spend on a drive pedal :-)
I have the Nux, great pedal, and really very close to original Klon sound. Now the only reason could make you buying a more expensive pedal is if you are professional and you are confident on more reliability for size, weight, etc. but at sametime for the difference of price you can buy 2 or 3 Nux and reliability is not a problem anymore, ja, ja
I own a NUX pedal. The Analog Chorus is a great pedal for the money. I do notice some production shortcuts as compared to more expensive pedals. The control Pots are not attached to the the chassis with a washer and nut. The are mounted DIRECTLY to the Circuit Card. This could be a problem if your foot accidently slips off the switch button and kicks the control knobs a few times. I removed the guts and put clear silicone around the pot housings where they mount on the circuit card. This should give the pots more stability. In my Opinion the NUX pedals are a very good value for what you get. Plan on buying the Horseman soon and doing same thing to it with clear silicone.
I own one and use it with my Marshall Plexi, it works great with opening the sound a bit more and also makes the High Frequencies a bit thicker and less sharp, which makes it sound glorious, I’ve tried quite a few OD’s, but none work as well as this one
The Nux actually sounds slightly better. The Klon seems muddier (overused adjective, I know) and has more of a "small super cheap early 90's transistor amp" kinda sound.
The NUX is killer, and I've heard a couple other clones that are just smoking.....but I'd still love to have the Klon Centaur. I mean Damn there is something magical about that box. The Klons price is uhh well yeah re-donk-uless but, it is a badass box. My only thing is this "and I could be wrong here and I probably am" the Klon and the clones seem like a one trick pony ya know I'd love to really tinker and think outside of the box "no pun intended" with the Klons sound......I bet that box hasn't even seen it's best day yet.
They sound very close, hard to tell the difference in blindfold test. The Centaur seems a bit better on Single Notes, but the difference could also be just in the playing Performance. Very good test, thanks.
In 1999 I bought an original (Silver) Klon Centaur for $325 including shipping. This was 20 years ago, and people hadn't reversed engineered them, etc., yet. I sold mine for $1,900 in 2015 (and it had been gigged, and toured excessively, it was not mint). This is NOT a perfect clone, but it is great sounding and very close for $70. I have another Klone (which I won't promote here since that's not nice), and while the one I own is a bit more on the nose in terms of imaging and gain structure (I suspect the NUX is not handwired, and the use of PCB is the main, slight difference in tone I'm hearing), the NUX is VERY good sounding here (also the NUX might not be using a few NOS parts the original, and the Klone I own use, which would be another small tonal factor). For a small board this is the one of the three best I've heard in terms of a compact pedal sized Klone so far while also being the cheapest. It's absolutely a professional sound in that vein. I'm not shocked that it's very good, I'm more happy that this kind of tone is affordable as my old Klon was my primary overdrive for 15 years.
I have a NUX horseman and it is superb. I have done this comparison myself and it is really close. And sounds nearly as good to me. Unfortunately my friend who has the klon wouldn’t let me keep it. 😂😂
The Centaur sounds better to me, more natural. It has a kind of mid scoop that probably makes for some killer AC/DC sounds. The Nux Horseman does a worthy job for the price, though!
I have the Big Boy on the Right and the Small Silver one not shown (great pedals) The small silver one has the gold voice tone also, its like 2 for the price of 1.3 pedals.
It doesn’t sound like everyone watched the whole comparison. The Nux actually sounds great until you turn the gain up. At which point, the mids get boosted and clarity is lost. This is where many agree the o.g. klon really shines.
Forget blind hearing test, I could barely hear the difference when I’m seeing the comparison. Even then, I couldn’t say which was preferable in tone... ...forget about being confident I’d get it right in a real blind showdown!!!
I have the Nux, it’s fuller than the Klon and costs under £50. Please Nux stop making these immediately so mine can insanely increase in value just like the Klon.
The vintage pedal craze is nonsense - concocted collectability on par with beanie babies and commemorative Elvis plates. The sophistication, quality and capability of solid state electronics has only improved over time. Fine if you prefer the Klon (for whatever reason) but don't kid yourself that it's functionally superior to the Nux regardless of the price disparity.
There’s more buzz from the NUX so it’s a noisier pedal. Listen the silence between switching it on and starting to play. Didn’t hear the same from the champion. Did you notice that too? I’d like a $65 Klon clone as much as the next guy.
@@WolfGuitarsandGear I’m with you. It’s a fantastic circuit. The price is outrageous. Ryra’s klone can be purchased used for under $200 and it’s 100% dead-on.
Quite different gain sound. The cheap clone clips and compresses similar to an 808. Klons have a very strident push on your signal, they don't get soft under the fingers as you wind up the gain. It keeps the attack but push your amp harder. This one sounds close with the gain low. For a closer gain sound you want a better quality clone. A KTR is best.
@@1Guug cool. wrote that a long while ago....i think i was saying the compression and clipping characteristics - not, i agree, the eq shaping - of the clone were more "808ish" than a real klon, cheers
I don't have the best ears in the world but, to me, the differences are obvious. The Klon is more "transparent", more open. The horseman seems more compressed with more low mids.
character is def in the same wheelhouse, however there's a creamy smoothness and silkiness in the upper mids that are magic in the centaur it sounds like it's being rounded by tape. IMHO after spending the last 25 years recording 60 to 90 hours a week. its a disease.
I disagree, most overdrives work best with an amp that is slightly crunchy, the idea of a Klon is to push the amp into more saturation. If you aren't using overdrives this way, you are missing out on the natural tone of your amp
Absolutely a tainted comparison. Please get a true bypass switcher for demos. Klons especially have a buffer that is ALWAYS on so the 2nd pedal is being fed a buffered signal. The difference in the buffers from Klon to Klone is often a huge factor between if they're good clones or not. You could have turned the bypass buffer off on the Nux to improve this demo but it still wouldn't be an accurate representation of the pedals. You can get a dual true bypass loop switcher for like $35US on reverb.
Just listen to the highs which make the Klon desirable in first place, the Nux doesn't really have them. Also, the Nux sounds kinda lofi, like most pedals of this cheapo brand, while the Klon just sounds more dense. And this is only judging by listening on my Macbook, at lower volume. I'm not sure what anyone finds in the Nux brand in first place, there are so much better options from Boss, EHX and else available, which don't really cost a lot more money. Sure, no Klon then, but still much better sound than using this Klon clone.
Al Nux lo encuentro mas cremoso y no tan chillon como el Klon. Y en su precio es mas razonable. Dios quiera que el Nux deplaze al Klon Por su sonido y valor ... lo cual es un disparate.
The Nux sounds very close. Sadly though, it doesn't cost enough money. I like to really overpay when I buy a pedal. Now, if Nux would raise the price to at least $429, I'd be proud to own one and my tone snobbery could ramain intact.
😂😂😂
Amen!
Yes there is no way a cheap pedal can work correctly. Thay must raise the price then we can feel good about using it.
@@AP-ui7oi Finally... Somebody gets it! YES, it is literally impossible for an affordable pedal to sound good. That's just simple physics. Besides, how do you even know you're better than other guitarist if your pedalboard doesn't cost more than theirs?! Someone answer me that!
BTW, That's actually how I won the audition in my band. Sure, the guy I was up against was cleaner, faster & more tasteful than me but get this... He was using a GENERIC power supply! Not to mention, his shoes were from Shoe Carnival! (How embarrassing right?!).
So yeah, the band took one look at my Swedish handmade power supply & my designer purple mohair boots and BANG... the gig was mine. Now come on, what more proof do you need?
@@t-boog2173 was the band named 'Benny and the Jets'?
I love people imagining differences between what are clearly identical sounds. Got quite a few laughs from people insisting they could hear a difference in this thread. I get it, it's tough trying to justify paying $5k for a boost pedal that a Chinese company just duplicated to perfection for less than $70. Nux nailed it. They make excellent equipment at a reasonable price. Great demo.
Someone had to say it! I get it too and ide still like to own a real klon for collection but I would still be using the nux
Lol.. the difference is there, I hear it on my cheap earphones. It's a subtle resonance on the high end in Horseman. Probably small eq tweak would solve the problem
@@qu4zz4rbuddy, if you want to embarrass yourself talking nonsense like this I’m not going to stop you. Reread your own comment, if you’re a smarty you’ll eventually see how silly you sound.
@@qu4zz4r ok, buddy. Lol
I've had a siler Klon and gold. I sold them both years ago. I got a horseman pedal used for $50. Sounds killer.
i love the clarity of each string sound from Klon Centaur,,
Underrated comment
The Nux has a subtle "edge" to it, a bit sharper than the Klon. This is most likely due to the silicon clipping diode, rather than the germanium one which the Klon uses (tends to be a bit softer, creamier if you will), but still, the differences are very subtle and in a mix the differences would be wholly unnoticeable. If anything, the Nux shows that the most important aspect of a pedal is the actual circuit, rather than the individual parts that make up the circuit. Josh Scott from JHS talks a lot about this, and the Nux vs the Klon is probably one of the best example I've seen of this ever.
I prefer the sound of the Horseman myself, and at the end of the day I can't for the life of me see why the Klon's prices are so over inflated. They're nothing special as far as I'm concerned. Give me the Horseman over the Centaur anyday. 👍
Building a clone might be even cheaper and it's incredibly easy
It’s unfortunately simple supply and demand. People are willing to pay the downright stupid prices for them. So people who want to sell them will continue to ask for those stupidly high prices.
I’m with you. The Klon is magic and I love it but the klones are getting so great.
For the price difference, for me it's the Nux Horseman.
They sound pretty close to me. Unless you’re a collector looking for bragging rights and a museum piece, I couldn’t justify the price of a Klon of the Nuxx.
thisdyingsoul76 - recently saw an e-bay add for over $4000! Hell no, flippin’ stupid. Just got one the horseman yesterday :)
The so-called purists disagree with you. They can hear all kinds of differences that even audio analysing equipment does not detect. 😁
That’s really all it is. Paying 4K just to flex and say you have it. I own the horseman pedal and sounds great with my setup
I actually like the Nux over the Klon.
It's a little teenie bit "sharper" or edgier which I prefer. And yeah, the price difference of 6000 dollars is nice as well 😄
Just for kicks, I got the Nux Horseman last week because I watched Shnobel's Green Rhino (90s original and MKIV) comparisons to the Centaur. I own a Rhino MKIV (and 6 other Way Huge pedals) and based on this video too, I wanted to see if the Rhino was really that close to a Centaur's sound using the Horseman as some sort of reference.
Turns out you can get the Rhino close to the Horseman/Centaur tone, but my real surprise was that the Nux Horseman sounded clearer and fuller than the Rhino as soon as I turned it on! I had to really tweak all of the Rhino's knobs to compensate tone differences and get it somehow close to the Horseman's sound quality when increasing or decreasing its gain. And I have to tell you that I absolutely love my Rhino and Pork Loin overdrives. So I just wanted to post that I highly recommend the Horseman not because it closely sounds like a Centaur, but because it's a quality and super easy to operate OD pedal, AND for little money. You won't regret it at all.
SO FAR Ive got 3 NUX Horsemen!!! two used, one brannew, 50€ a piece!!!
FOR Years Ive been sculpting my tone, QUITE happy, ha haa, BUTT
this little brown box brings more sponginess/dynamics/note definition to the tone, AND
I have a long list of pedals before it: SIMBLE-BOSS OD3-DOLAMO D8-INCA KOLA-BOSS DYNA DRIVE...!!!!( AND A DOD LOOKING GLASS AFTER IT...
I MAY not have all the pedals on all the time( for example the Boss Dyna is for sustainy dark jazz, and the DOD Glass juust finishes the tone with some cool coating,,,
BUTT :
the NUX Horseman is a marvellous pedal!!! and itll stay on my "board" forev...
🛒🛒🛒
Your demo and comparison clips are always top notch. Great job!
Am I crazy or does the Nux have a more beautiful, fuller, fuller sound? Am I crazy if I say that I like the Nux more?
It sounds great and just goes to show what bullshit all this tone-snobbery is. If you like the Nux sound more then why not?
I agree
no, but a lot depends on the guitar and gear and volume. With a different amp or guitar you may prefer the Klon.
I have the NUX and it’s 100% a killer pedal
*REMEMBER* no audience ever give a shit about your pedals, just play well
1000% accurate , and especially the drunk girl at the end of the bar lol Peace !
i don't agree 1000% but yeah, playing is the first impression ofc.
TwoYs. Totally agreed. I went from playing via amps to 100% digital straight to the mixer. Playing live. Nobody noticed anything, the one guitar nerd after the show just went n talk about my chops n that.
Apparently you’ve never witnessed a bunch of dorks staring at your pedalboard the entire night, and then mobbing it with their iPhones at the end.
@@jixxxxer17 The drunk bar gals are only there for the nostalgia dopamine hit. So long as you give 'em their red meat and you can be playing through an 83' Crate practice amp and a Bentley Series 10.
Nothing has ever beaten my old Nobels ODR-1’s so far. And I have them all.
Yuck hate that pedal
Josh Muz Whatever works for you dude. I have 3 from the early 90’s, and to me, as to many respected other studio players, it’s the best ever. But whatever rocks you boat. It’s all good.
I agree, the Nobels ODR-1 is an amazing overdrive, it's always on my board
Is that supposed to be a Klon style circuit though or like a tubescreamer? Isn't it a totally different sounding OD compared to a Klon?
James Cassidy I’ve never analyzed the circuit, but I doubt it. The ODR-1 is much older, I think (early 90’s German tech)
Yes, it sounds very different. That’s why I like it better.
Definitely NOT a clone Klon.
The Nux sounds amazing.
Ok, that was incredible. For reference: Im watching youtube on a pc with AMD guts and Edifier studio monitor speakers. I turned my back to the pc screens and, using my bluetooth Razer mouse (side buttons set for volumes), I controlled the volume from low to high and all nuances between. I never saw which pedal was being used. Just listened intently. I genuinely can not tell the difference. Maybe in person its different. But on my home rig, and it aint too shabby(!), there is no difference at all. Im definitely buying a Nux Horseman!
this nux sounds awesome!!!! And it’s only $69 😁 and it has two modes Gold and Silver, and true or buffered bypass.....gonna need to get one of these!!!
Moskys are 20$!!!
@@kimmolingonheimo and they suck
Sold. Next to a Tube Screamer, cant go wrong.
Important thing to remember is no to real Klons are going to sound exactly like each other as well. If you like the vibe Horseman seems a great option, with some cool features and diminutive size. For collectors nothing but the real thing will matter, regardless of sound.
I prefer the sound of the nux. More clarity, especially when the gain is high.
Good job, Nux was impressive. I would suggest and plead you do comparison between Nux and some other popular Klon clones, Tumnus, Archer, Soulfood. I also would be very happy to see how well Nux works pushing other overdrives and amps compared to the Klon, that would be the main meaning for me getting one.
Tones were dang close. There was a significant amount of hiss when the clone was selected but other wise its a no brainer. I'm ordering one.
I bought the Nux Horseman a few months ago and I absolutely love it. Nux and a few other budget effects manufacturers have been killing it in recent years! It's no longer necessary to spend a lot of dough on effects pedals.
I love Mooer as well, and Joyo. My trinity for the best, cheap, chinese effects pedals is NuX, Mooer and Joyo, but I also feel Mosky is starting to bark up that tree as well, and for even less money.
@@FretLevelMidnight I heartily agree with the first three, but I only own two Mosky pedals. My Mosky Golden Horse died just last week within a year of acquiring it (apparently this is not uncommon) and I also own a Mosky Spring Reverb (great sounding pedal) but it does weird things occasionally like not turning on. I'm starting to understand why Mosky are the cheapest of cheap pedals.
Cheers dude! great comparison, definitely cannot afford the Centaur anyway, so i got the mosky golden horse 👍
Nice, even the noise levels are similar. Just got mine yesterday, looking forward to checking it against my other ODs.
I will buy Nux Horseman before it become $5000 like Klon, maybe Nux like crypto someday:)) Thanks for your video Bro.
I bought a klon centaur paddle back in the 1990's. Probably for $200. I just didn't hear much come out of it and I ended up selling it. I thought it was overrated and didn't do as much as my standard Tube Screamer or even my Blue Boss pedal. I wish I still had the pedal only because I could sell it for so much money had I held on to it.
I think there is slightly more bass in the Horseman, and maybe slightly more gain at the same position of the gain knob. Overall, the Horseman seems like a good deal if you don't have $2500 to spend on a drive pedal :-)
the Horseman does both Klons
It sounds like there's a more hum in the clone, otherwise virtually no diff! 🐎
Yes, the extra bass worries me especially if you use it as a solo boost..
I have the Nux, great pedal, and really very close to original Klon sound. Now the only reason could make you buying a more expensive pedal is if you are professional and you are confident on more reliability for size, weight, etc. but at sametime for the difference of price you can buy 2 or 3 Nux and reliability is not a problem anymore, ja, ja
I have gigged my NUX for years now and no issues
I own a NUX pedal. The Analog Chorus is a great pedal for the money. I do notice some production shortcuts as compared to more expensive pedals. The control Pots are not attached to the the chassis with a washer and nut. The are mounted DIRECTLY to the Circuit Card. This could be a problem if your foot accidently slips off the switch button and kicks the control knobs a few times. I removed the guts and put clear silicone around the pot housings where they mount on the circuit card. This should give the pots more stability. In my Opinion the NUX pedals are a very good value for what you get. Plan on buying the Horseman soon and doing same thing to it with clear silicone.
I own one and use it with my Marshall Plexi, it works great with opening the sound a bit more and also makes the High Frequencies a bit thicker and less sharp, which makes it sound glorious, I’ve tried quite a few OD’s, but none work as well as this one
The Nux actually sounds slightly better. The Klon seems muddier (overused adjective, I know) and has more of a "small super cheap early 90's transistor amp" kinda sound.
The NUX is killer, and I've heard a couple other clones that are just smoking.....but I'd still love to have the Klon Centaur. I mean Damn there is something magical about that box. The Klons price is uhh well yeah re-donk-uless but, it is a badass box. My only thing is this "and I could be wrong here and I probably am" the Klon and the clones seem like a one trick pony ya know I'd love to really tinker and think outside of the box "no pun intended" with the Klons sound......I bet that box hasn't even seen it's best day yet.
They sound very close, hard to tell the difference in blindfold test. The Centaur seems a bit better on Single Notes, but the difference could also be just in the playing Performance. Very good test, thanks.
Am I the only one that waited the entire video for him to dial up the treble on the Nux to finally get them sounding almost exactly the same?
And this is in no way an indictment on Nux. They knocked it out of the park with this one
Nux is a bit darker, that’s it.
And also one-dimensional
@@Dobrovinskiy Could you explain this ,please? Because I hear something that I can not explain.
@@barakados it is because the impulse is too short
nux doesn´t cut low freq the klon does
@@Ferruidoblanco use an eq pedal after it then.
In 1999 I bought an original (Silver) Klon Centaur for $325 including shipping. This was 20 years ago, and people hadn't reversed engineered them, etc., yet. I sold mine for $1,900 in 2015 (and it had been gigged, and toured excessively, it was not mint). This is NOT a perfect clone, but it is great sounding and very close for $70. I have another Klone (which I won't promote here since that's not nice), and while the one I own is a bit more on the nose in terms of imaging and gain structure (I suspect the NUX is not handwired, and the use of PCB is the main, slight difference in tone I'm hearing), the NUX is VERY good sounding here (also the NUX might not be using a few NOS parts the original, and the Klone I own use, which would be another small tonal factor). For a small board this is the one of the three best I've heard in terms of a compact pedal sized Klone so far while also being the cheapest. It's absolutely a professional sound in that vein. I'm not shocked that it's very good, I'm more happy that this kind of tone is affordable as my old Klon was my primary overdrive for 15 years.
NUX is a little darker, turn up the tone and match it to the Klon.
Nux what a great little pedal
I have a NUX horseman and it is superb. I have done this comparison myself and it is really close. And sounds nearly as good to me. Unfortunately my friend who has the klon wouldn’t let me keep it. 😂😂
Quite spot on at least through YT... Horseman maybe a tad more bassy?
I prefer the NUX.
The Centaur sounds better to me, more natural. It has a kind of mid scoop that probably makes for some killer AC/DC sounds. The Nux Horseman does a worthy job for the price, though!
DAMN !!! I think the Nux sounds better......
Try the Zoom PD-01. I bought mine new for $59.00. A Klon killer.
I read on the nux website something about this needing 18 volts? Does standard 9v work as well? How is the horseman powered in this video?
It says 9v at the bottom of the pedal
Wow horseman!!
I actually prefer the sound of Horseman :)
I have the Big Boy on the Right and the Small Silver one not shown (great pedals) The small silver one has the gold voice tone also, its like 2 for the price of 1.3 pedals.
It doesn’t sound like everyone watched the whole comparison. The Nux actually sounds great until you turn the gain up. At which point, the mids get boosted and clarity is lost. This is where many agree the o.g. klon really shines.
Is the Nux Horseman a digital DSP pedal or is it analog? Can't seem to find any info about this anywhere!
I'm in search of that answer too.
Have you find anything yet?
@@sakissyard No, I haven't. I do suspect it is a analog pedal though because the other pedals in the same series are analog.
Paying to say you own a klon is a rookie mistake.
Klon owners feeling a little silly right now. Those who aren't in denial that is.
At this point I don’t think anyone is actually even playing Klon Centaurs. People own them to say they own them. They sell for too much to gig with.
Forget blind hearing test, I could barely hear the difference when I’m seeing the comparison. Even then, I couldn’t say which was preferable in tone...
...forget about being confident I’d get it right in a real blind showdown!!!
I have the Nux, it’s fuller than the Klon and costs under £50. Please Nux stop making these immediately so mine can insanely increase in value just like the Klon.
Nux good sound giid ood price enough for life now
Nux has a stronger signal. For someone who's not too crazy about the Centaur pedal this kicks it up slight Notch by very very comparable
Good job!
Nux sounds fuller..there I said it
String definition better on klon centaur but wait its multiple price of nux horseman
Personally i choose nux horseman
Imagine these pedals boosting an Orange or a Vox...
Exactly what I'm gonna get one for! Vox Ac4.
@@georgearagon2546, cool! I play an Orange Rocker 15 Terror and I'm looking forward to get one of these too
If you rehoused the NUX in a Klon casing, you can fool a bunch of rich corksniffers.
The vintage pedal craze is nonsense - concocted collectability on par with beanie babies and commemorative Elvis plates. The sophistication, quality and capability of solid state electronics has only improved over time. Fine if you prefer the Klon (for whatever reason) but don't kid yourself that it's functionally superior to the Nux regardless of the price disparity.
NICE !!!
There’s more buzz from the NUX so it’s a noisier pedal. Listen the silence between switching it on and starting to play. Didn’t hear the same from the champion. Did you notice that too? I’d like a $65 Klon clone as much as the next guy.
It might be just this particular setup. Older pedals tend to be noisier most of the time
Single coils will tend to do that not to mention the set up for this demo.
Live it wouldn't make any difference. Anyone can tell you it's the same tone for around 1/40th the cost.
@@jcows12 Sho' nuff!
The Nux sounds better...
nux wins!
The Horseman sounds better.
HORSEMAN SOUNDS WAAYYY BETTER
is it bad I prefer the tones of the horseman? lol
NUX has more mid-range presence, grittier. NUX for me, price aside.
It's the same pedal
The Klon Centaur is the most overrated (and overpriced) pedal on the market!
Emilio De Filippo overpriced absolutely. But it is absolutely fantastic. Klones work just fine at a reasonable price.
@@WolfGuitarsandGear I’m with you. It’s a fantastic circuit. The price is outrageous. Ryra’s klone can be purchased used for under $200 and it’s 100% dead-on.
Still think the RYRA clone is the best Klon clone
Agreed that Ryra is closest Klon copy. Personally, I found I preferred the sound of the Wampler Tumnus over the original.
@@slideguitarist The Tumnus is good too, more low end and slightly more compression. I especially liked the part where you agreed with me though
there is a little difference here,but not 3 grand worth !
Quite different gain sound. The cheap clone clips and compresses similar to an 808. Klons have a very strident push on your signal, they don't get soft under the fingers as you wind up the gain. It keeps the attack but push your amp harder. This one sounds close with the gain low. For a closer gain sound you want a better quality clone. A KTR is best.
I can't hear the mid bump and the bass cut of a 808 in here
@@1Guug cool. wrote that a long while ago....i think i was saying the compression and clipping characteristics - not, i agree, the eq shaping - of the clone were more "808ish" than a real klon, cheers
Wow
I don't have the best ears in the world but, to me, the differences are obvious.
The Klon is more "transparent", more open.
The horseman seems more compressed with more low mids.
they sound the same
Original has the edge in this battle 🧐
Prefer the Nux
I prefer a klon of klon but whitout noise like that nux 😓
No one notices the difference in the mix
you should set the tone more open to nux
I still like the tube screamer better
I had Klon and I had an 808 I kept the TS sold the Klon for 5 times profit No regrets
The NUX is muddy. the Klon is very airy.The NUX is $85.00 USD A safe choice has been the Wampler Tumnus for $145.00 USD but even that is big jump.
Nux's gain is more than klon.
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Even through RUclips you can tell the difference, ones the painting, the others a photo of the painting. It's a high Res photo I'll admit that.
character is def in the same wheelhouse, however there's a creamy smoothness and silkiness in the upper mids that are magic in the centaur it sounds like it's being rounded by tape. IMHO after spending the last 25 years recording 60 to 90 hours a week. its a disease.
The big pedal is for the idiot. The small one is for the smart people
please clean amplifier
I disagree, most overdrives work best with an amp that is slightly crunchy, the idea of a Klon is to push the amp into more saturation. If you aren't using overdrives this way, you are missing out on the natural tone of your amp
@@matthewwinter5780
It was only a suggestion for those who occupy clean sound of their amplifiers, a second option, greetings
A few things sounds fine into a clean amplifier. The Klon is not one of them.
Absolutely a tainted comparison. Please get a true bypass switcher for demos. Klons especially have a buffer that is ALWAYS on so the 2nd pedal is being fed a buffered signal. The difference in the buffers from Klon to Klone is often a huge factor between if they're good clones or not.
You could have turned the bypass buffer off on the Nux to improve this demo but it still wouldn't be an accurate representation of the pedals. You can get a dual true bypass loop switcher for like $35US on reverb.
I wish every RUclipsr doing demos of Klones would heed your advice. So many cascade buffered pedals into one another.
You're overthinking it dude!!
@@brin57 You're underthinking it dude!! One pedal is getting a high impedance signal and the other is getting a low impedance signal.
LeTTaRS All that matters is the sound. If it sounds good, then it is good. The rest is fluff!
@@brin57 You're correct, in general, but I think you've missed the point of my comment.
結構音が違うな
Just listen to the highs which make the Klon desirable in first place, the Nux doesn't really have them. Also, the Nux sounds kinda lofi, like most pedals of this cheapo brand, while the Klon just sounds more dense. And this is only judging by listening on my Macbook, at lower volume. I'm not sure what anyone finds in the Nux brand in first place, there are so much better options from Boss, EHX and else available, which don't really cost a lot more money. Sure, no Klon then, but still much better sound than using this Klon clone.
You have no clue what you're talking about, go buy the Boss Klon
Al Nux lo encuentro mas cremoso y no tan chillon como el Klon. Y en su precio es mas razonable. Dios quiera que el Nux deplaze al Klon
Por su sonido y valor ... lo cual es un disparate.
the klon sounds more a dirty amp , the nux like a pedal
Yeah, what kind of suckers would buy a stupid thing like that.
Too much bass in Nux
so turn the tone control
I like it
Is it just me or does anyone else think the Klon (and look a like clones) are the ugliest looking pedals they've ever seen?
I love how they look, minus the graphic.
@@JonCurcio Yes the graphic is pretty gruesome. Not sure about the colour but the "bakerlite" look knobs are nice.
I suppose $69 is allot better than paying $2000+ and besides most people aren't gonna tell the difference.