These guys were NEVER cool
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Coney rates the coolness of ALL the Smash Bros. characters in the series and designates which game had the coolest version of that character. For example, Fox is DEFINITELY the coolest in Super Smash Bros. Melee by far, but what about Jigglypuff or Lucas? From Super Smash Bros. on the Nintendo 64 all the way to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, watch the reasoning behind Coney's single decision on picking the coolest of the crew.
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Thank you Coney for telling me what my opinion should be
Happy to do it! :)
@@CONEYZZ coney B4 I watch this video did you say kirby ult is lame
@Benjamin Armitage his original series, but that's it.
@Benjamin Armitage well he's definetely been cooler
Yeah man, ima Junior main but he was in the never cool category. Guess I gotta change my main.
when i was a kid i didn't understand why everyone thought melee was faster than brawl, because i mained kirby
a hell of my own making
😂
Same bro
Can we all agree that Ike was pretty cool, but during cut scenes in subspace?
He's literally the only one who landed a hit on the Ancient Minister when two speedyswordslol were there trying to get him. Coolest cut scene.
I’d put him in brawl just cause of his cutscenes and appearance in trailers.
Yeah. As a kid I was ALL over that cutscene. It was also wild to play a swordie I could comprehend lmao
@@greder23 not only that, but ike landed a hit IN FRONT OF meta knight and marth the 2 best swordmen in Brawl
Everyone was cool in subspace lol
"I've played all the games, so you just sit there and be influenced"
felt that one
You ever think about how there's a whole generation of Smash players that don't know Zelda and Shiek used to swap out
Fricking kids
I know about it
well of course you do ness you're in that game too
Ballistic Boo y e s
Ballistic Boo i’m in all the games
Wave dashing in melee is what makes Luigi perfect
"But he hits less buttons" had me dead
“Why aren’t you coming to me?! I WANNA KILL YOU AT 70” finished me off.
It also had melee dead
What coney said about jiggly puff is EXACTLY what I think about Incineroar in ult.
Yeah if you lose to Incineroar, even online, you got outplayed. Just how it is, don't fight it just accept it
Literally just don't shield against incineroar and the don't push to aggressively on him when you aren't in advantage. It's that easy but people still lose to me
Tell this to the incineroars I face online that strictly use side b and neutral b. This is kind of funny 0at least from my perspective with all the incineroars I've faced. dunno how they got in elite smash.
"Melee I played it casually" I never thought I would hear such combination of words
Literally everyone played it casually when it came out, why do people think this way
I played melee once casually. Thought it was trash. But then i got exposed to competitive. Thank god the game is broken
Literally everyone played melee casually when it originally came out... dumbass....
So brave to say that. I would say the same thing tbh
@@sizzle_falco lol you good homie?
That last part made me sad
Lowkey
It is incredibly sad. It's hard to be a part of the community after 'Smashgate', because it's undeniable how much so many of the involved individuals completely defined and redefined the meta over and over again. It's difficult to refer to their undeniably influential legacies given how they've been marred by their unacceptable actions.
@@mannya.h.967 yeah but ZeRo and Nairo were mostly just Smash 4, a game so crappy no one wants to think about it anyway. Neither of them were relevant in 64 or Melee and they were largely only relevant in ultimate to casuals.
@@mannya.h.967 I was just playing the other side of the coin, yes it is sad. 😢
My 9 yr sister knows she swapped lol.
*Then again, we only have brawl so that might just add up*
Wish the video had all the characters talked about, I’m not sure how to explain my new opinions to people
Like who?
Content Man makes another tier list. I'm a very happy boy today.
I think its pretty cool how balanced the list was since each game had nearly the same amount of characters listed
Except 64 lol
shoutouts to the one character in 64 only being there by a slight edge because pikachu could feasibly be in literally any of them
It’s cuz the whole game isn’t cool
6:14 Holy moly, somebody finally said it. I remember playing PM Ness for the first time, and while he was fun in his own way, I just couldn't move on. Brawl Ness is my jam.
Facts
REDACTED was one of the most hype players to watch. Palutena will never be as cool as she was in 2019 :(
Redacted lmao
It’s sad that people will barely remember Nairo for the player he was. He will always be one of the greatest players of all time despite what happened.
Just say Nairo. Everyone knows who you’re talking about. And just because he made a mistake doesn’t mean his name can’t be spoken
@@mitosis9678 i think you underestimate how many underage kids play smash and watch smash youtube videos. The point is to keep HIM away from THEM. And i think the purpose of his exclusion is exactly that.
@@SnuggsMcDuff Saying his name isn't going to summon him.
The nod of respect to Nairo at the end ;-;
we dont respect nonces
@@williamhowells806 I agree but Nairo isn’t… bro literally won his case against Zack
@@berk8513 he won the SA case fair and true but he still actively pursued a relationship with zack before any of that happened. there are many consentual photos of them together. the sexual part nairo innocent but he still worked to get into a relationship with a kid that shouldn't be overlooked
At first I was mad he called Kirby lame but now that I think about, Kirby has never been cool in *SMASH* .
He was op in smash64, but other than that he not that cool
@@goldshell9992 OP =/= Cool
I can only hope that Coneys Palutena rating has changed since then
HAH you wish
Best part was Coney grilling spacies when fighting Jiggly.
Luigi is the only reason why I still play Melee. I love him.
Melee luigi is the most fun fighting game character
@@myboy_ I'd say no but he's up there
Honestly overall quite a good list.
I will say that I think Ult DK is cooler than Smash 4, but that is mainly because his whole kit feels like it has a purpose even if he is overall a much worse character. However, I did like your reasoning for Smash 4 DK so I'll take it lol
I'd say Ult DK is cooler just because he doesn't have Ding Dong. That move was lame AF
@@Endershock1678 don't worry it is still in Ult, just much harder
If Kirby is in na dk should be as well imo
@@blui3609 I think Kirby is cool in Ult, but imo DK has always been way cooler than Kirby across the board, so I disagree
I’m salty about what he said about Bowser.
“Ult Bowser is corny” makes me sad.
3ds Wario hits different.
Just saying
That glitch with the di in that game was crazy
Lmao
True tbh
That was a great opening face to buffer on.
I loved luigi in Ultimate for a week until i realised the combo is the same shit every time
REDACTED really did make Palutena look cool as shit.
REDACTED had a good Diddy Kong
:(
-I was wondering why it says REDACTED but now I know-
Agreed
"I don't think Kirby's ever been cool"
why must you hurt me so
This is the only weakness of the succ....
Kirby is cool in Ultimate
@@shortbread1818 no his airspeed is too trash
The fact he cuts yoshi out of the video is amazing
I think you're crazy for not thinking PM/P+ Ike ain't cool. He can WALL JUMP using QD (infinite wall jump in 2.0) and j.c QD which leads to feints, full screen grabs, pseudo DACUS, and follow-ups/kill confirms from anywhere on the screen. I can't even see an iteration of Ike from any other games come close to that.
lol @ the chat exploding when he got to Zelda
I have a replay I've been meaning to put on RUclips for a while.... it's called simply, "This is how Zelda was meant to be played." It's just me absolutely destroying a Rob, with aggressive play, hard reads and minimal special use. It hurts me that almost no one plays Zelda like that.
i feel like very few characters were really at their coolest in smash 4 because as you said, it tends to be the same song and dance with each character, such as Mario's down throw into up everything.
Dang. Greninja N/A even after being the poster boy for vine footstool combos in Smash 4 LOL
This is actually just 22 minutes of me getting called too small.
I got to Fox and all I could think of was DBZA Broly "He's so dumb... but he's so cool!"
Seeing Coney talk about Smash 4 DK back then with how much he loves Ultimate DK now
icies were cooler in melee. sure there was wobbling and freeze glitch but some of the handoffs and desyncs are so sick
Pm icies have all the same handoffs and desyncs and new stuff on top of it without the wobbling
i feel physically sick
I really enjoyed this video. I do not have the in person experience but I have seen plenty of play across all of the games outside of 64 and I just liked how you did this. Great work.
Really said “Bowser has never been cool but Sonic has”
Like what
This dude high-key looks like Syndrome from The Incredibles.
[ Redacted ] was a cool Palu main, but now, he's a [ also Redacted ]
This aged like milk
“The Palutena player that must not be named”
props for the Tetrisphere music, super underrated gem, gameplay wise & musically
Coney: *skips yoshi*
Me: *THROWS JUICEBOX AT SCREEN*
Rip Kirby my fallen brotheren :(
19:50 you didn't include any commentary about Toon Link :( but I do see that he was cool in Smash 4, which makes me happy :)
Bowser needs to be in PM. PM Bowser with the side b. Comon man!
And fireball
Dark Pit was put in the newcomer tier, but he's not a newcomer. He was introduced in Smash 4, not Ultimate.
I think he did that because he’s an echo. There’s really no need to put two of the same character essentially in the same tier when one will do the trick. He also put lucina there.
I remember how cool Fox was in in sub-space emissary; he dodged the dark cannon (the only other character capable of doing this was ness), he defeated rayquaza (the sky god in the pokemon series) and he drank tea on the halbard.
Zelda getting put N/A is unfortunate, but at least her being put there was worth screentime, jeez. Rip g&w.
Yoshi too lol
They should make Rosalina a full puppet character. So Luma is always with her, but can't attack while Rosa is in hitstun or blockstun, or doing a getup option. Luma can be deactivated for 8 seconds after enough damage is taken, but will still follow Rosalina (but Luma will be greyed out).
ALTERNATIVELY, they could make Rosalina a STAND character, who can summon and unsummon Luma with neutral B. When Luma is summoned all of Rosalina's tilts, smash attacks, and grabs are empowered. Also, her nair is bigger and stronger while Luma is summoned. Her other aerials are unchanged. Everything I said about not being able to use Luma while in hitstun or blockstun still applies. Luma has a health bar, and when she takes enough damage dies and disappears (but is not knocked offstage). When Luma is unsummoned, she gains health over time to avoid being killed. The health bar slowly fills up when Luma is deactivated, and once it is full she respawns next to Rosalina. The match always starts with Luma spawned.
Thoughts?
Yo I literally become depressed when I think of palu because of that man.
Edit: I am no longer depressed
Who was he referring to?
@@Swaggalicious someone that doesn't deserve to be mentioned
@@Swaggalicious he was referring to Nairo
Are you depressed now :)
@@urmom1294 yes
When Zelda was auto-thrown into N/A my heart broke
PM is her coolest.
How you just gonna sneak greninja into n/a like that smh
Ikr
Greninja shoulda been in ike tier
Brawl Ness is my honest to goodness forever main. God that blunt up air and that power kick of a down air spike brings me so much joy
Thank you corny for preaching the good word of this teir list I 100% agree with the whole list
Bowser is my least favorite Character in ultimate hands down but PM bowser is nice with it
Kirby never cool... Cries in 64 recovery
how dare you disrespect my boy like that
7:52
DARK MODE CHROME ON LMAOOO
The first person who complemented me for maining sonic in brawl I have never been so happy
i think doctor mario dhould be in the ultimate one, he has a stomp and is a little more fun than mario imo
*skips Yoshi*
Me: T R I G G E R E D
Kirby suicide back throw in melee was the coolest.
...Until your enemy presses jump.
Yeah except the fact that it didn't work
there was one good palutena
Nairo...
And he’s back:)
Coney's rant of Melee Puff was fuel to my aching floaty main soul
Lucas was one of my big mains in Brawl, so to see him there makes me smile. I love that little boy and his up smash.
Zap Jump was AWESOME.
you should have worded that last part better
@@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy You decided to go there. This comment is two years old and nobody went there. Congratulations.
@@salmonandsoup i am just trolling, and i wouldn't doubt it either, because smash bros community
really had to end it on a sad note like that
I am perfectly comfortable with ROB never having been cool, because I've never been cool
same cool tech doesn't make a cool character
@@randomperson4137 what are you talking about?
ROB is kinda in Palu's old situation where it feels like only one player uses all his tools well enough to actually be cool.
@@Moneymancer I'm a rob main and in ultimate he has a lot of cool tech like burner boosting and double and triple tosses but at the end of the day rob is built to play lame as that is when he is most optimal
whats the music/background noise at 21:00 minutes
Ult puff > melee puff and every puff main agrees
lowkey I agree but coneys explanation was so funny
That whole talk on Palutena made me genuinely sad
We're never gonna truly live that one down
Well we kinda lived it down
@@a2rhombus2 TRUEEEE
Smash 4 Wario because WECTORING.
Man I may be one of the youngest people who've played all the smash games including PM
I want to disagree with Kirby being N/A, but I'd be lying to myself if I did. Just because I like him doesn't make him cool... He really needs a rework tbh
Best Puff opinion ever
Falco is coolest in PM because he is the same as Melee, except he has blue lasers
Project m Ike is sick as fuck I refuse a list that does not include him in PM
when coney talks about snake he sounds like a monty python character
Me: sees thumbnail without watching the video
Welp time to start a war
Smash 4 Link was Art
I like how Pikachu is the only in smash 64
ultimate ice climbers are the coolest and ill die by that. desync combos are the most stylish and demoralizing thing that ever happened in smash. there is no valid counterargument.
thank you for listening to my ted talk
The only one I disagree with is G&W in NA, I kinda respect smash4 Game and Watch, as the bayo slayer. And I have a bias for Brawl Lucario, but I get it, they went ham on his moveset in PM, so I respect it
Pretty solid list tbh
That palutena part made me sad
as a Zelda main, *shake*
That ending Sadge
I do think that it is worth mentioning for Ness the jacket glitches in Melee are pretty sick
I dont give 2 shits what anyone says watching a good robin in ultimate is so cool. Jul is absolutely ridiculous and the whole reason i main robin aswell. I AM OFFENDED.
I ALSO DISAGREE WITH GRENINJA BUT WHATEVER.
Alright have a nice day
Brawl toon link is WAY cooler than smash 4 toon link, this even isn't an argument. Smash 4 toon link is bomb the character, but brawl toon link could do so much more. Z dropping, Arrow cancelling, bair chains, dair bounces off so you can actually spike off stage, down smash cheese, zair to everything, zair while holding a bomb, etc. The level of tech he had compared to his boring as fuck smash 4 variant was crazy.
This man went from “Bowser is always corny, but ultimate shiek is cool” bruh
Manuel Valdes Sheik is the coolest character in ultimate
I don’t see the problem with that statement. Good sheiks are insane in ultimate and bowser IS corny.
Song at 2:57?
It's "On the Beach" from Yoshi's Story. Good song in a good OST!
Thanks man
“He’s Superman!”
*Injustice Online Flashbacks*
Was superman op?
zelda's coolest iteration was smash 64 cuz she wasnt in the game
As a fellow kirby main this makes me upsetti spaghetti
Yo let me grab some popcorn this will be a movie in itself
Ultimate zelda is one of the coolest characters in the game when she actually approaches
thats a wacky way to say N/A
But how is she go in to approach though.
Below average run speed and her tilts are not something to be glad about and her specials are projectiles or have awkward launch angles that don't allow follow ups.
With all due respect, but you can say that about A LOT of Ult characters. The issue is, a lot of them don't need to approach. Ever.
Zelda would have sauce if she was another character
@@Matthew-mo7wh she would have sauce if she was the same character and approached.
Damn, I wanted to hear about his say on Pit, even if it was a given, why the jump?
Some maybe answers, smash 4 or pm. Earth made pit look cool in smash 4 and pm was melee marth but with a good projectile.
@@owenbritain6677 Was he cool in Smash 4? Ik PM no doubt cause his arrows were just way cooler toys but I played Pit in 4 (not competitively) and watched pro Pits but nothing really stood out as cool for me. Ultimate Pit seems like he has more juice than 4 Pit.
Well now we have to update this list tommorow
No, he said newcomers won’t be on the list bc they haven’t been in any game besides ultimate
King Lycaon wdym, you don’t remember playing Steve in melee. He was too broken so they took him out and added him to ultimate
Imagine thinking pika and samus are ever cool
19:18 I think Sonic should be an agressive character not a defensiv.