The first caller sounds so convincing but he is lying. The IPSOS survey of attitudes towards migration shows 40% of British people have a positive attitude towards migration, compared to 35% who have negative attitude and 17% who are neutral. Leave it to Nick Ferrari to not challenge a lie because he agrees with it.
Not only is he wrong about the UK having remotely the highest immigration but, I've never seen these surveys he's talking about? Immigration to wealthy countries like the the UK has always been an economic benefit and, imo, a cultural one.
Is it a cultural benefit to import people who hold some of the most hard-line religious views in the world in a society that had weaned itself off from religion? Are chain migrations of repeat cousin marriages healthy for any society? On this last point firmer restrictions were made regarding bring over spouses from abroad and cousin marriages amongst certain immigrant populations have gone down. Is this a bad thing given the negative implications of such practices? I pose these questions not as some crazed anti-immigrant person btw.
It's too expensive to have children. I volunteer in a local charity shop where everything is £1. It attracts hundreds of asylum seekers - many of which have multiple children and having more. How can they afford so many kids in the UK? You tell me.
It's part of their culture to sacrifice for their children. Often there is a strong religious imperative to have children even if one is relatively poor.
Are they having more kids or are you confusing what you see with the facts Are they shopping with you because everything is cheap are English parents somewhere else because their kids won’t be dressed in second hand cloths
The fact is that when immigrants become European, the birth rate falls in later generations. In the Third World, having big families was a way to get yourself looked after in old age, and don't forget they have much higher rates of child mortality. If you went back to Victorian times, it was the same in the UK. It was common to see 8,9, or 10 children in a family.
Bigger surge than other rich nations means nothing because you neither provide figures nor compare with other countries. A small number works, but the rest are not dependent: many are studying. The UK makes a lot of money from foreign students. Also, people are "dependent" because they are asylum seekers who are not allowed to work.
@@stephfoxwell4620 dont talk daft. 66 year olds are drawing a pension. older people use the NHS far more and generally cost us far more. and i say this as a 49 year old.
There are more people under 65 that are dependent on the working population than there are pensioners. Those pensioners have worked and paid into the system immigrants who are new to the country have never paid a penny are entitled to everything from day one.
The UK birth rate was 1.72 in 1997 when we started the mass immigration project, after 27 years it's now 1.44. The more immigrants that come in the lower the birth rate will fall, this may seem a bit counter intuitive but people need a home and income to start a family. The more immigrants that come to the country and the harder it is to get a home and the more that incomes are squeezed.
@Khalkara No you need people who are skilled engineers for example. You don't need a bogus students with extended family draining the system. People's standard of living decreased mass immigration as been a disaster for the united kingdom.
Or of course equality. At some point we must transition away from relying on exponential growth of populations and resource consumption, of which the vast majority goes to a very small percentage, towards a society in which we recognise that quality of life and GDP are different things
my son is disabled, i had to home school him for 3 years because tory budget cuts meant there was no spaces for 3 frikkin years. how are they wanting us to have more kids when our mortgages have doubled, schools are falling to bits and there isnt the spaces anyway.
Because if they don't, the economy collapses because it's based on a pyramid scheme. Oh, and rich people stop getting rich off the backs of everyone else.
We have to love all our neighbours. Besides, lots of countries accept immigration. There's millions of British people who live overseas way before this nonsense arose.
Personally I don't care either way. But put it this way, with the aging population we have in the UK, out of the options below, what would you prefer to have. 1. No pension, since there are too few working individuals to pay tax whilst you are at pension age. 2. Have a pension, but accept that lots of working class people are now actually from immigrant families. Just like with Brexit, there are tough decisions to be made, its not just all about your xenophobia.
It’s so frustrating hearing these posh well off people talking about low birth rates and how people need to have more children in the UK. It’s not just a coincidence ffs it’s because people can’t afford to have children anymore. It’s become prohibitively expensive. No one in their circles in that situation though so they speak as if it’s not an issue, it wasn’t even mentioned in this interview
We should rejoin. Brexit hasn't delivered any of the benefits we were promised and everything that we were warned against from the Remain has come true and then some. Time to wake up and smell the ashes.
Cultural shift is always a challenge for a society to manage. The older generation always complain about the younger generation and vice versa. What we need is a more active approach to this management as has been conducted very successfully in Mechelen
True. But, I’d say the bigger elephant in the room is, nobody brings this back to basics and talks about the geographical size of the U.K. itself. You can create and build more infrastructure, however, you can’t make the landmass of your country any bigger - nobody mentions this!
Address inequality. If people are still living at home till they are 30 how are they having kids.
Yep I’m relatively a high earner but I still live at home. Everything is too expensive and need a lot to buy a house
The first caller sounds so convincing but he is lying. The IPSOS survey of attitudes towards migration shows 40% of British people have a positive attitude towards migration, compared to 35% who have negative attitude and 17% who are neutral. Leave it to Nick Ferrari to not challenge a lie because he agrees with it.
Its not about immigration, but OVER immigration.
Why is immigration to the UK higher than all other rich nations? It isn't. 🤦🏻
Not only is he wrong about the UK having remotely the highest immigration but, I've never seen these surveys he's talking about?
Immigration to wealthy countries like the the UK has always been an economic benefit and, imo, a cultural one.
Has anybody seen these surveys
@benhardisty-du9ke feels like someone anti immigrant asked a few of his like minded mates.
CuLtRaL eNrIcHmEnT 😂
@@Durka-Durka01 😂 we're all getting along splendidly
Is it a cultural benefit to import people who hold some of the most hard-line religious views in the world in a society that had weaned itself off from religion? Are chain migrations of repeat cousin marriages healthy for any society? On this last point firmer restrictions were made regarding bring over spouses from abroad and cousin marriages amongst certain immigrant populations have gone down. Is this a bad thing given the negative implications of such practices?
I pose these questions not as some crazed anti-immigrant person btw.
It's too expensive to have children. I volunteer in a local charity shop where everything is £1. It attracts hundreds of asylum seekers - many of which have multiple children and having more. How can they afford so many kids in the UK? You tell me.
It's part of their culture to sacrifice for their children. Often there is a strong religious imperative to have children even if one is relatively poor.
Are they having more kids or are you confusing what you see with the facts
Are they shopping with you because everything is cheap are English parents somewhere else because their kids won’t be dressed in second hand cloths
@@blueodumwhat utter tripe every parent sacrifice for their parents
This is partly why kids resent their parents for working instead of being at home
The fact is that when immigrants become European, the birth rate falls in later generations. In the Third World, having big families was a way to get yourself looked after in old age, and don't forget they have much higher rates of child mortality. If you went back to Victorian times, it was the same in the UK. It was common to see 8,9, or 10 children in a family.
We learn about this in economics classes: poor people make more children. As people get richer, the trend reverses.
Bigger surge than other rich nations means nothing because you neither provide figures nor compare with other countries.
A small number works, but the rest are not dependent: many are studying. The UK makes a lot of money from foreign students. Also, people are "dependent" because they are asylum seekers who are not allowed to work.
No one else told 3 million EU workers to leave.,
The boomers were known to become a huge elderly burden way back in the 50’s. The problem has just been can kicked for 70 years.,
@@johnrussell3961The UK birth boom was 1958-1971.
People aged 53-66 are not yet an elderly burden.
@@stephfoxwell4620 dont talk daft. 66 year olds are drawing a pension. older people use the NHS far more and generally cost us far more. and i say this as a 49 year old.
There are more people under 65 that are dependent on the working population than there are pensioners. Those pensioners have worked and paid into the system immigrants who are new to the country have never paid a penny are entitled to everything from day one.
The boomers are not the problem, the lack of children being born to ongoing generations is.
@@kanedNunable The largest number of births in the UK were 1958-71. Our "Boomers" are not yet pensioners.
Because old people want to retire and enjoy the cheap services they provide but also moaning about it
vast majority of old people vote tory, who do fk all to help anyone bar the rich
Whilst vilifying those younger than themselves.
The UK birth rate was 1.72 in 1997 when we started the mass immigration project, after 27 years it's now 1.44. The more immigrants that come in the lower the birth rate will fall, this may seem a bit counter intuitive but people need a home and income to start a family. The more immigrants that come to the country and the harder it is to get a home and the more that incomes are squeezed.
'Mass immigration project'? Somebody drank the kool-aid...
Have people seen the traffic. The infrastructure can't cope. People want quality of life not 100 million people.
One of the reasons along with high taxes, cloudy and cold weather for more than half the year I left.
The U.K. is on a downward trajectory.
Do you really not see the irony of your statement?
You need people to build infrastructure and do other things to raise quality of life.
@Khalkara No you need people who are skilled engineers for example. You don't need a bogus students with extended family draining the system. People's standard of living decreased mass immigration as been a disaster for the united kingdom.
Or of course equality. At some point we must transition away from relying on exponential growth of populations and resource consumption, of which the vast majority goes to a very small percentage, towards a society in which we recognise that quality of life and GDP are different things
@@andrewdixon2730 well said
my son is disabled, i had to home school him for 3 years because tory budget cuts meant there was no spaces for 3 frikkin years. how are they wanting us to have more kids when our mortgages have doubled, schools are falling to bits and there isnt the spaces anyway.
The aging population is the biggest issue in this country.
Why should people have more children ??? Life is too expensive. Housing, cuts to benefits etc etc etc
Because if they don't, the economy collapses because it's based on a pyramid scheme. Oh, and rich people stop getting rich off the backs of everyone else.
Correct. In fact the situation is much worse than people think.
We have to love all our neighbours. Besides, lots of countries accept immigration. There's millions of British people who live overseas way before this nonsense arose.
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A rise of 50% in a year.
We've taken in over 4 million in three years and 2.25 million have stayed.
And that's just the legal ones.
And the legal ones make up 90%
Personally I don't care either way.
But put it this way, with the aging population we have in the UK, out of the options below, what would you prefer to have.
1. No pension, since there are too few working individuals to pay tax whilst you are at pension age.
2. Have a pension, but accept that lots of working class people are now actually from immigrant families.
Just like with Brexit, there are tough decisions to be made, its not just all about your xenophobia.
@whisperingleaves What? Taxes don't pay for Pensions.
Governmentd ate funded by debt.
Tax is merely a way to destroy excess money printing.
It’s so frustrating hearing these posh well off people talking about low birth rates and how people need to have more children in the UK. It’s not just a coincidence ffs it’s because people can’t afford to have children anymore. It’s become prohibitively expensive. No one in their circles in that situation though so they speak as if it’s not an issue, it wasn’t even mentioned in this interview
It will get worse , jas starmer is trying to please the eu
We should rejoin. Brexit hasn't delivered any of the benefits we were promised and everything that we were warned against from the Remain has come true and then some. Time to wake up and smell the ashes.
Because loop holes have been purposefully created and no one wants to close them.
Does the caller have the facts and figures to back up his opinion?
Weres O’Gammon 😂😂😂
Students are a large part of those figures and those are the clients of a UK business financing the country
Well UK has rented or even sold it their country to outsiders to run their country, so wat would you expect in return outsiders taking over.
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The birth rate will increase when the living standards rise
Called giving everything free its not rocket science
Because there’s many immigrants here and they attract many more
We are really in danger
Is it higher than Ireland?
Oh I don't know maybe it's the free benefits free hotels free food free phones and free money maybe.
Cultural shift is always a challenge for a society to manage. The older generation always complain about the younger generation and vice versa. What we need is a more active approach to this management as has been conducted very successfully in Mechelen
It’s set by the government
Any chance we can have some real news that is affecting the country this morning, 20 people in Wales. For F sake?
Mass immigration does effect a country
Johnson is doing his bit to add to the birth rate
Oh dear.... Matey....so what !!!
Lots of gaslighting in the comment.
Heard of mandatory conscription but not mandatory boom-chikka-wow-wa.
But its not...
Just sort it out fairly
In answer to the question is other countries don't have the clowns we do pretending they know how to run a country
The elephant in the Room is Infrastructure a word that the left replace with economy but that's going well south now.
We won’t be rich for much longer
True.
But, I’d say the bigger elephant in the room is, nobody brings this back to basics and talks about the geographical size of the U.K. itself.
You can create and build more infrastructure, however, you can’t make the landmass of your country any bigger - nobody mentions this!
The elephant in the room is Nick Ferrari.
@@VoiceOfTheEssex isn’t the UK. Visit Scotland some time.
@@johnrussell3961 Scotland isn't a county like Essex.
East Saxon.... not for a long long time and they were illegal.
Brexit
English
Higher? Clue: it's not. With an aging population and vacancies in key jobs we need more immigration not less.
Ok mate.
Oh yes it is!
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