Thank you for sharing that. I keep repeating that message over and over and it seems to me that not enough people in the US know about the HF's plans to take over and destroy everything you stand for.
Reagan imposed neoliberalism, Anti-Worker's Rights, Anti-Union, Anti-Regulation, Anti-Democratic, Socialism for corporations & billionaires, hard cold capitalism for the rest, has gutted the Middle Class. Bernie Sanders won his Senate Seat! Bernie's not giving up, and neither am I 😊.
I'm an American - let's get to the basic fact the the American education is ranked very low compared to other countries and is even worse in red states (the south) and that is evident in the ignorance and refusal to use the internet to take 5 minutes here and there to look for history and facts and the vulnerability to cult think.
More than half of America aren't even functionally literate. How mad is it that people who literally would not be able to read a policy manifesto can vote on it?
I convinced myself Harris would win because I thought surely America is better than this. I could forgive the US for 2016, it was a fluke, but to vote him back in after the crimes. I guess I was wrong about America
Capitalism doesn’t tend towards efficiency if given free rein, it tends towards monopoly, arguably the opposite. Regulation is a requirement to keep it competitive, even if you don’t subscribe to socialism.
Exactly. Capitalism creates monopolies. Governments should break them up. Capitalism incentives the hoarding of wealth and then the entitlement to power. Government should be actively redistributing wealth so that no one individual has the same power as democratically elected representative. Centre left policies do not work. They maintain capitalism whilst virtue signalling to the average worker. But nothing meaningfully ever changes for that worker. The centre left needs to step more left and actually start supporting the average worker
How could Elon Musk and similar individuals argue that the system isn't working for them? This is mind-blowing to me. How do you get to be the richest person in the world and complain that you don't like the system... Staggering...
You could easily figure this out yourself, its not hard. Elon doesn’t care about being rich, he cares about technological progress which the system is clearly slowing down.
@theJACKATIC I'm guessing life is way less complicated when you look at it that way. And I come back to my original point, how has the current system prevented him from moving his technological aspirations forward?
Elon, all of them really, are telling the masses what the masses want to hear. Everyone can see the system is not working, state the obvious and the masses will vote for you.
@@theJACKATIC lol 'living in reality is less complicated, yes.' I guess you have not lived long enough to see life is complicated and messy, you will find out.
There are no Alternative Facts. The Alternative to facts are Lies. Lies are not facts. It's pretty simple. No amount of Wordsmith Conniptions can change that. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
Thank you!! The reason we're in this mess is because people have become too comfortable with blatant lies. The cost of lies in Chernobyl was an explosion of a plant when they hit the emergency stop button, which wasn't supposed to be possible. The cost of lies in the US may very well be American democracy and the rights of the citizens. "You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts."
@@bobadams7654 If you accept the common usages and definitions of the words "alternative" "fact" and "lie", it absolutely is both logically sound and true. A fact must necessarily be true in order to meet the definitional criteria of the word "fact", which means a non-fact (a lie) is the only possible alternative to a fact.
Putting Elon in charge of anything in the goverment is like putting a serial killer as the judge and jurty of his own trial. The coflicts of interest and potential for corruption is unmeasurable.
That’s why he backed Trump all of a sudden. He’s gonna get even richer now. Not forgetting the lucrative contracts his space x are certain to receive now.
Corruption is not a thing anymore if it's legal. And in USA it's legal and huge way before Elon was a thing. Now they will pay the cost, the invisible hand will slap hard and I'm totally ok about it.
I'm really interested how the party that now controls every branch of the US government is gonna blame the woke left when they inevitably fail to deliver anything again
That last sentence hit hard! Because a huge chunk of Americans will have to realize what they did after trump, and start making the right choices! Basically, the ones who are not weak minded and gullible, have to suffer alongside those who are weak minded and gullible, just so they can learn a lesson! Wicked unfair!
I’m an American. I’m dating a German. His grandparents remember World War 2 and the aftermath. They gave me a stark warning months ago to not make their parent’s mistake. Well, I guess now we find out for ourselves. we are discussing our inevitable marriage but it won’t be in the United States.
Yeah, I’m American and the amount of apathy to Trump is terrifying. The next 4 years will be at minimum chaos and at the worst mass atrocity. Neither are great.
best wishes for your marriage, hopefully trump doesnt send the world into chaos and you can live life in germany or another country without him affecting it
@@MeoithTheSecond Oh fair enough, so it's just the nature of how those billionaires get their chunk of pie. Indirectly is fine, directly is bad. Fair comment.
Ya exactly, then those who do the coddling put guys like soft serve Merrick Garland incharge. Trump and his buddies should have been held accountable 2 or 3 years ago....they're all in group that none of us belong to.
We need to get off our high horse in the UK, we aren't much smarter than the Americans (see reform plc supporters for example). People unironically believe a millionaire investment banker who spends more time in Florida than his own constituency cares about the working class.
@TheShellw1977 And millions more who despise him. There are 70 million people in this country, 4 million isn't half of who voted for Jeremy Corbyn and no one's going to argue he's popular
You could see perception of reality shift when the media didn't push back on George Bush's tales of weapons of mass destruction. I truly believe that if Bush was held accountable, Trump would also be.
@@marktullett-g2fmaybe because Trump will certainly try to scrap the affordable care act? Anybody that has a condition will not be able to get insurance coverage
I live in Kentucky. We actually have a model of the majic zoo boat right here in my state. It's crazy how religiously blind these people are. They wait for Jesus everyday.
Please don’t say 60% of people voted for him. He currently has 50.2% (75.57 mil) vs 48.1% (72.4 mil) of popular vote. Our electoral college is DEI for rural states.
Elon sacked 80% of Twitter employees and the company carried on as if nothing had happened. Imagine that - all those shiftless leeches glomming onto that one business. Fair play, I say. Meanwhile, not a moment's pause from these two self-important pontificators to consider the growing and immense power of the state in both the USA and the UK. Whilst they slyly slur all Trump voters as conspiracy wingnuts, they blissfully grow their own paranoid theories as they perform their socialist werrit over small government types (at last) getting a turn at the controls. All the while, theyre wilfully oblivious to the debt-spiralizers in hundreds of government departments, building papier-mâché empires out of other people's money. We're simply tired of socialism. Give us back control, and give us back our money.
He wanted to force them to work during lockdowns because making his cars was more important than their health but sure. He'll definitely carr about you blue collar Tim. People so naive
@@anthosm and the guy who bought twitter in the name of "free speech" just to talk about fake censorship and justify real censorship , not to mention actions that could be classified as treacherous at the very least.
@@jasonpage9986 I actually admire what Musk has achieved in his life, with the idea of EV's reducing the carbon footprint and the radical steps that SpaceX has taken with reusable rockets. However, he has now partnered himself with an authoritarian president who hates renewable energy. He wants total autonomy on the space sector and a overhaul of the FAA which hold him accountable and delay any of his projects. All of this is not for the betterment of mankind, he has a similar sized ego to Trump and both will come to blows sooner rather than later. He gave away just over 100 million for his endorsement of Trump on the largest social media platform in the world, to con the voters and gain billions back in funding. All to keep Trump out of jail. He is a shyster
@@Scott1433you people truly have the minds of children. No wonder you believe everything Trump tells you like gospel. From the total lack of understanding of government and the economy, to the schoolyard bullying and gloating like you just won a game of kickball.
They've always been the Establishment, hiding behind a mask of convenient Populism. It was never any kind of 'New World Order' that was the danger, it was the Old World Order of feudal hierarchy based on heredity and extreme wealth re-establishing itself with a vengeance. Here comes the New World, same as the Old World.
I saw the term 'Broligarch' to describe people like Musk, Thiel, Bezos, etc. I am concerned with the democracies around the world and the influence of the money in politics more broadly.
I think it's unfair to say a country deserves the leader it votes for. But what about the leader it doesnt bother to vote against? Millions and millions of people who voted agaisdnt Trump last time didn't bother to vote this time. He won this time with fewer votes than last time, when he lost.
@@SerendipityChild A lot of them were in Michigan and they didn't vote because of the Gaza situation. I don't agree with them because Trump will be worse on Gaza but I'm just telling you what I have heard and believe to be true.
@@trappedinamerica7740 Yes. Lot's of groups warned they would withhold votes because of Gaza. The mainstream media reported that but did not take them seriously. Now they might. Too late. Both major parties are equally guilty over Gaza.
Trump should do whatever he wants, after all "he is a businessman" well versed in bankrupt and he is still standing, even after being convicted. Americans need a felon because he knows all the tricks to drive the country into the ground just like his business. He will never pay any price but Americans will. This is what America cheered for.
My only hope is that people will experience the damage and wake up. It's unfortunate that we cannot explain it to them, they have to see/exprience it unfolding. Perhaps U.S. can learn and comeback stronger? Or on the downside, somehow they''ll figure out how to pin it on Democrats. Then I will say DT promised if elected he will make things better! No excuses! Wait...excuses again??? You're still finding someway to defend him?
@@nelliemcclung6801i don't think being a grunt in the army qualifies you to lead the army, similar that flipping burgers at McDonald's isn't qualifying you to be the general manager
The state might be a slight problem but the issue is by far capitalism than a state trying to help the poor. And libertarians typically want free markets because they want the rich to control everything.
Can we do the improvement part without the corruption, nepotism and further exacerbation of income inequality which is driving the politics in the US? Super; thanks .
I watched many leftist journalists go to trump rallies, and ask several trump supporters, if they would vote for a democrat over Putin. All chose Putin. They don’t want democracy anymore.. they said “maybe it was time for a dictatorship”
How does he threaten democracy? I think it's the party that jails and prosecuted their political opponents with shame trials that is a threat to democracy.
The American electorate said F it! 38% of eligible voters did not show up. 1% voted for a third party, which had no chance at all. The remaining 61% was split 31% for him, and 30% for her.
I think they may still be counting votes, but even if counting has now concluded for the Presidential race, the gap between Trump and Harris has been significantly reduced to just a couple of million votes. Please keep in mind that Montana and Idaho were called for Trump before any votes were reported as counted in those two states. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of “blue” voters in “red” states. I am from Missouri, considered to be a “deep red state” and yet over 40% of our electorate voted for Harris. With the amount of misogyny and racism in our U.S. American society coupled with the amount of time Harris had to campaign relative to the Time Trump had, she really should have lost by quite a larger margin.
Also keep in mind the sly Republicans passing legislation in various states ending with almost 15 million voters denied the right to vote ,Thousand's of dumped postal votes being found ,this was the stolen Election not 2020
I'm not convinced that she lost. Elon Musk should not have been involved. We should demand a recount. If she actually did lose, then the matter will be settled.
What I hate about conspiracy theories is that any theory, no matter how wacky, 'might' be true if someone or some group stands to gain financially in some way.
And the left-wing conspiracy theory that this election was stolen has now been confirmed by Russia of all countries by their words and their actions. And thanks to the internet we actually have the receipts!
Not 60% of the electorate. 10 million LESS people voted for Kamala vs Biden. At the same time, trump received approximately the same number that voted for him last time. People just stayed home. Tired of it all but just lazy. It will cost us all.
Your guest is full of it. Anyone framing this as politic as usual has no idea what is really going on. Policy didn't matter, the things you think are THE reasons are way way off. It's a cult of personality, politics has nothing what so ever to do with it.
I'm not sure what specifically you don't agree with, but much of what this guy is saying is spot on. Peter Thiel and Elon Musk believe all that nonsense about techno feudalism and crushing democracy. Also many folks do believe in an evil PDF cabal in the federal government and most on the right are now willing to lean into those fringe beliefs. Dems were left defending the status quo which is currently high inflation and raising prices, not to mention the housing price crisis.
That, and Trump going to where his voters were - multiple podcasts- and concluding every talk promising to make them better off. They believed in the Trump they saw on The Apprentice for years, no wonder they swallowed the rest of his lies
@@davidmanning7912Trump didnt even do that. He just entertained people. The dude never talked about policy. I thinj americans just want the government to be a reality tv show so they arent so bored.
There is 2 points between them in the popular vote right now, which is within the margin of error like polls and prognosticators said. This was not a landslide.
It is in the sense of how many states he won, including every swing state. He also won the popular vote and this rarely occurs for Republicans. The last time this happened was after the boost G.W. Bush got after 911.
It WAS a landslide. The Americans KNEW what Trump was and voted for him anyway with a GREATER vote share. America has shown its real soul to the rest of the World and it is stinking inky black.
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking in the last statement. American democracy possibly doesn't exist anymore. We'll see how far this administration will go.
We now live in an idiocracy. Social media has fried brains and short attention spans. I think people voted for Trump just for the entertainment value. People dont care about policy anymore, hence why they voted for a guy who wouldnt shut up about hamabal lector and didnt talk about anything he would do sides "nobody but me can fix everything"
Can't believe how far I had to scroll for a comment like yours. Totally agree. If they didn't patch the flaws after the first Trump presidency, there's not going to be anything to salvage after the second...
Makes sense but the first line of the first amendment to the US constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" which was ratified in 1791. It's widely accepted that we do not mix church and state. Most fundamental Christians in the US choose to ignore this but most lawmakers in congress understand it's the law of the land and it has been upheld by the Supreme Court several times. So no it wasn't founded with this in mind but it was added pretty quickly. Now the tax evasion thing, yeah agree wholeheartedly. Lots of people on the right regard anything we pay for with tax money as "socialism" and view them as evil. Except when you bring up military, police, firefighter, etc they somehow think those are not socialism. The amount of propaganda and disinformation/misinformation in the US is mindblowing. There are no consequences for anything you say here. Including lying to millions of people about an election being stolen which resulted in a violent insurrection. The US has seen better days for sure.
@@Nugschris Well, under the King George situation, our America wasn't seeing socialism. It was just seeing the experience of being Britain's cash cow. Had King George instituted some sort of colony-side socialist system, out of a burst of altruism in his heart, we Americans might have still been a colony of Britain to this day. As it was, those who were willing to organize a resistance (still a minority) decided that independence was the more satisfactory route. It seemed pretty appealing because the foreign trade that had been inuring to Britain's benefit would now be inuring to ours, with nothing changed except the formal name of the payee and merchant on our end.
@@Nugschris Separation of church and state was the intent , but there are ?537 elected between House/Senate/WH of which I think only 1 is openly atheist/agnostic/naturalistic. He might not be still be in the House, and he only came out before winning a second term. Would probably put the openly atheist/agnostic/etc percentage of population at at least 10%, probably closer to 30% if people were more open about.
It's started with creating the mini kings and queens on The Extreme Court... just so in the bag for republicans and their corruption. Of course that started with Reagan, Heritage Society, Federalist Society and the dark money he set loose on america.
My take is that things move very slow at the federal level and I think it will take more than four years to rip out the pipes of the federal government.
There is no analogy that expresses what America has done. "Cutting off ones nose to spite ones face "does not cover it. In the future THIS event will be used when trying to describe how a thing is utterly self emulating. And FFS, NO PREFERRED OUTCOME WILL COME OF IT.
I'm an American voter. One of the most frustrating things to me about our current political system is the near invisibility of the left. I consider myself a Democratic Socialist and people like me are not represented in our public square, except for the rare occasions when our corporate mainstream media will allow Bernie Sanders near a microphone. He is literally the most liked and trusted politician in our country but on our news stations he's treated like a crackpot uncle. All our discourse is set up to ignore the political left here. For instance in any poll about opposing candidates, Harris and Trump, for example, if you say you disapprove of Harris and her policies it is automatically assumed that you are supporting Trump. There is no way to effectively communicate criticism of a Democratic candidate from the left. Our political spectrum goes from ultra-Rightwing to Center Right and there it ends. How can we ever convey a different option to voters if they have no idea that such options exist?
It’s like those who see revolution as a chance to rebuild w/o mentioning that if you’re going to rebuild something, you have to tear it down first. This will only end in tears.
Perhaps the US should try democracy? I mean something like : an end to the two party system, proportional representation, a total ban on political party funding except for personal donations up to 50$/year.
That would require that the left starts to agree with the 2nd amendment, and convincing a lot on the right to join them at this point. Because it's not happening by referendum.
It’s called Jacksonian Democracy - going all the way back to an old bloke named Andrew Jackson. The 2 parties, in one form or another, have been entrenched in the American system for 2 centuries. It WILL NOT change.
@rossanderson5243-That beautifully explains why the United States is in the process of losing their democracy. Honesty is a rarity and has been for decades. Propaganda has taken over, exponentially each year, particularly since the advent of the internet. The writing has been on the wall for a while now.
Elon Musk, Paul Singer, Steve Schwarzman, Peter Theil, Miriam Adelson, Diane Hendrix, Harold Hamm, Andrew Beal, Bernard Marcus, Tilman Fertitta, Bill Ackman, Jeffery Hildebrand, Kelcy Warren, Ike Perlmutter, John Paulson, Steve Wynn, Warren Stephens, Winklevoss twins, Linda McMahon, Timothy Dunn, Geoffrey Palmer, Phil Ruffin, Robert Mercer, Robert Bigelow, Ron Cameron, to name some of the billionaires funding trump
In case my reply is deleted: article from Business Insider, published 10/28/24, titled “40 of the richest donors funneling money to Donald Trump: Elon Musk, Steve Schwarzman, and more”
I, unlike many Trump supporters, will be fair with the facts and admit that Harris had billionaire backers as well.. however Trump had 4x as many - so we can see where that balance of influence went
@@babybijou969 Kamala raised over a billion dollars and spent more than she raised in less than two. Trump only spent a little more than a third of that over 16 months. Tie that fact in with your post....
@@babybijou969 🙄🙄🙄it’s called democracy. Doesn’t matter if you regret something you voted for. Democracy gave you the chance to vote. More people voted for Trump and for Brexit. You lot aren’t even listening to what Trump is saying right now. Maybe check up on it
@lordvadertheleftie9703 Standard answer for everything. An idiot in my local paper lauded how Trump will bring back racial harmony since Obama agitated it 2008.
In complex electrical systems, the worst enemy is what is known in the trade as “tweekers”, those people that cannot resist tweeting things with a screwdriver, a tool that in the wrong hands can destroy systems or create major disruption as faults develops because of those anonymous tweekers. It appears that Trump has appointed some tweekers to the government. We can expect some disruption in the coming months for sure.
Must be nice to be able to dispassionately make these predictions without fear of the consequences of being wrong. Some might call it a privilege. I'm sure people said similar things about Hitler's ascendancy to the German Chancellorship in 1933. Not many of them were Jews, I'm sure.
Even if systems are broken and let’s say there really does need to be a reset of democracy and global economics, etc (although what’s needed is fixing and adjusting, not destruction of everything).… These guys are not the ones who should be doing it. It’s like installing Charles Manson as Minister of Peace and Compassion.
I made a comment saying Trump had 72 million votes and Kamala had 69 million compared to 2020 when Biden had 81 million and Trump 71 million. The Trump voter jumped to conspiracies about missing votes. I was implying that the votes weren’t missing, but that merely people just didn’t come out to vote because the candidate was bad or the message was terrible.
Well, when people are only getting their information from one side about the opposition then it's not about the messaging but the machine at work with the distribution of that information.
Biden's numbers were an anomaly from previous election totals that lend to the theory that several million of his 2020 votes were invalid mail in ballots, like the several thousand mail in ballots in Pennsylvania that did not have a signature and Nevada counting more ballots than it had registered voters etc. If you believe Biden won by the margin he did in 2020 you would have to believe he was a more popular incoming president than Obama etc. That's asking a lot for a candidate that campaigned for the most part in 2020 from his basement but somehow motivated 10million more voters than normal to vote Democrat. Biden's true valid voter numbers in 2020, were probably more in line with Kamala's or Obama's numbers and consistent with the median Democrat voter totals every election year this century.
Umm pollimg was right. Polling margin of error is 3.5% and all polling was there. In fact the the popular vote was 2% (prolly lower when counting finishes). The entire election hinged on less than 300,000 votes.
I actually can’t wait for everybting to inevitably get worse under trump. Whether that’s immature and ridiculous to say, I don’t care. The fact we are where we are is even more ridiculous. I’m sure I will feel the negative impacts as well but the only thing that might knock some sense into these idiots is for things to get much worse when they were promised the stars
Missed the point completely by being trapped in your emotions. Facts are facts, but can be viewed as such from two or even several positions. The same football can be factual white if only view from a transfixed point, whilst view from the other side, the leather is factually blue. Until of course it is rolled forward and both sides see the merged fact. The same is true of a coin that can be heads one side and tails the other whilst still factually being a coin, Switch of the emotional bunkering, and understand that “facts are facts” is definitively a statement of ideological monopoly. Some fact facts are immutable and incontrovertible. For example of someone cuts anything human, the red stuff seeping out is blood! Unless of course you’ve cut an abscess or a blister… ;-) so facts can be prone to the subjective as well as the objective
The point made wasn't that "facts aren't real" or that "reality is negotiable", but that the facts available to a given individual will affect their perception of reality. Theoretically, if someone has sufficient facts they could have an "objectively correct" perception of reality. Nobody has that. Therefore, pretty much everyone's perception of reality runs on a multi-directional sliding scale of accuracy in relation to individual questions of fact. For example, most people know that gravity exists in some capacity because an object falls to the ground when you let go of it. A lot more people are less confident about how exactly electricity works. Both of these are physical, tangible, measurable and observable forces. When you apply that framework of limited knowledge of facts = limited perception of reality, it's easy to see how people make mistakes. This is of course why education is important and why we should all ideally be at least a little bit politically and economically educated because these things are particularly complicated. Reality isn't negotiable, but people's perceptions of reality are extremely negotiable. By controlling what people learn, you can control how accurate their perception of reality is.
When the status quo increasingly isn't working for the majority of people then the ideology that represents the status quo will lose. Kamala Harris and staying in the EU both represented the status quo and people will vote against it even when the change makes things worse for them.
How does their vision for America differ from yours? What does your Utopia look like? Bigger government? No moral boundaries? Honestly, what is the biggest difference between you and Trump in terms of ideology? Don't throw out talking points, be real.
The only caveat to this election is that Democrats still won Senate seats in states Trump carried. This means that people who went to the ballot box for Trump didn't vote down ballot for Republicans, if at all. It'll be interesting to see what a post-Trump Republican Party will look like.
FFS, Bernie never could get the black vote. In Democratic primaries it's a non-starter. And you think the 2018 midterm swing was huge? I admire Bernie, but he has the outsiders advantage.
Unfortunately the DNC will not permit an actual leftist/populist candidate at the top of the ticket.. only their Corporate Democrats who support AIPAC. All other candidates get snuffed out
Folks, you seem to have missed something: MAGA was actually subliminally referencing the Antebellum South - a return to "plantation fiefdoms" except with corporations in the place of actual plantations. Musk is perfectly suited (and vying) for this given his background.
and a TEST to be allowed to have babies. Billionaires need more consumers so they push for larger populations. But they sure dont want to help your baby once its born.
As an American that comes across as a bit chilling if you know the history of the Jim Crow South. Poll tests were, with impossible questions, were used for years to disenfranchise Black people.
We probably have to fight for it. Millions of people, when they uprise, that's the real power. We than DECLARE. The word is the ultimate power. The wise shall rule over the stars.
I guess it's true -- letting weirdos do their thing is the most direct way to prove to to them that reality exists and it's not what they thought it is
Things are pretty terrible for people across the board. Trickle down does not work. Inequality is rising. People want change so they vote for anyone who promises it. Brexit, Trump, they’re all the same thing. Economists need to stop looking at graphs and go outside; they really do not understand what people are going through
The world Musk wants is one hardly anyone would want to live in. Cruelty, indifference, force over fairness, lies over truth, corruption over compassion. Of course, even the strongest eventually become weak. Musk and his ilk seem to think their wealth can shield them from time itself, but this is a delusion. The day will come when he will look around in desperation for any sign of compassion only discover the world he built has no room for it. Our only hope is that the scope of that creation will be limited to some remote mansion, and not the Earth itself.
Those ‘attributes’ of his were formed by him growing up in apartheid South Africa, where his family acquired great wealth on the backs of the oppressed
Gabriel’s podcast on BBC sounds, the coming storm, is an excellent series, compulsive listening for anyone interested in what’s going on in the world right now.
I thought it pandered a bit to the right and was too gentle on the insanity of modern day American right wingers. In one episode he called the Russian collusion saga a conspiracy theory in comparison to qanon. Another one too concerned about being perfectly balanced in detriment to the facts.
Yes, O' Brien said a similar thing when he learned of Trumps victory. What he actually means is how dare people care about the cost of a loaf of bread over my luxury beliefs. Or as Marie Antoinette once famously put it "What, the peasants have no bread, why let them eat cake".
The major problem that i see here is that they see the world from their perspective of Ultra Rich they incompetent !! 99.9% doesn’t live like that so this will backfire bad for them!! And push for more progressive reforms and go after them, FDR style after the Great Depression!! 😅
@@gradyshmalady8284 It will have an effect! Just wait-inflation and tariffs will drive prices up, further suppressing the middle and lower classes. Additionally, there will be significant pushback against the mass deportations and wars, likely leading to civil unrest in the streets. I don’t understand why people forget what happened four years ago with this guy!
the only conspiracy i've seen about this is ,how according to joe rogan and dana white,did elon get the results 4 hours early if he didn't have access to what was going through starlink, and if he had the access could he alter it.
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I love the poorly educated, probably the most honest thing Trump has ever said
not if "I don't care about you I just want your vote" has anything to say about that 😂😂
Trump is also very much one of them!
That and I've always been GREEDY
The heritage foundation has been working on this since Reagan. They have been putting things in place for years.
Thank you for sharing that. I keep repeating that message over and over and it seems to me that not enough people in the US know about the HF's plans to take over and destroy everything you stand for.
EXACTLY
There’s the deep state
@@gretaholmes783 ...as in new world order
Reagan imposed neoliberalism, Anti-Worker's Rights, Anti-Union, Anti-Regulation, Anti-Democratic, Socialism for corporations & billionaires, hard cold capitalism for the rest, has gutted the Middle Class. Bernie Sanders won his Senate Seat! Bernie's not giving up, and neither am I 😊.
I'm an American - let's get to the basic fact the the American education is ranked very low compared to other countries and is even worse in red states (the south) and that is evident in the ignorance and refusal to use the internet to take 5 minutes here and there to look for history and facts and the vulnerability to cult think.
More than half of America aren't even functionally literate. How mad is it that people who literally would not be able to read a policy manifesto can vote on it?
Luckily to cope with poor education they have an abundance of propaganda to fill in the gaps!
I convinced myself Harris would win because I thought surely America is better than this. I could forgive the US for 2016, it was a fluke, but to vote him back in after the crimes. I guess I was wrong about America
I’m American as well
Not to mention how badly they have butchered the English language is some places. A drawling garbled mess..
Capitalism doesn’t tend towards efficiency if given free rein, it tends towards monopoly, arguably the opposite. Regulation is a requirement to keep it competitive, even if you don’t subscribe to socialism.
Exactly. Capitalism creates monopolies. Governments should break them up. Capitalism incentives the hoarding of wealth and then the entitlement to power. Government should be actively redistributing wealth so that no one individual has the same power as democratically elected representative. Centre left policies do not work. They maintain capitalism whilst virtue signalling to the average worker. But nothing meaningfully ever changes for that worker. The centre left needs to step more left and actually start supporting the average worker
🎯🎯🎯💪💪👌👌 Exactly!!!
More efficient than communism
Yes!
Capitalism is also in large part driven by selfishness. Given that's also a part of human nature, it's not hard to see how things can go awry.
How could Elon Musk and similar individuals argue that the system isn't working for them? This is mind-blowing to me. How do you get to be the richest person in the world and complain that you don't like the system... Staggering...
You could easily figure this out yourself, its not hard. Elon doesn’t care about being rich, he cares about technological progress which the system is clearly slowing down.
@theJACKATIC I'm guessing life is way less complicated when you look at it that way. And I come back to my original point, how has the current system prevented him from moving his technological aspirations forward?
@@enatp6448 living in reality is less complicated, yes.
Elon, all of them really, are telling the masses what the masses want to hear. Everyone can see the system is not working, state the obvious and the masses will vote for you.
@@theJACKATIC lol
'living in reality is less complicated, yes.'
I guess you have not lived long enough to see life is complicated and messy, you will find out.
There are no Alternative Facts. The Alternative to facts are Lies. Lies are not facts. It's pretty simple. No amount of Wordsmith Conniptions can change that. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
And the lies from leftist media were plentiful, and effective but not effective enough!
Yes, certainly when I was growing up, what are now being called "alternative facts" were called lies.
Thank you!!
The reason we're in this mess is because people have become too comfortable with blatant lies. The cost of lies in Chernobyl was an explosion of a plant when they hit the emergency stop button, which wasn't supposed to be possible. The cost of lies in the US may very well be American democracy and the rights of the citizens.
"You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts."
@@bobadams7654 If you accept the common usages and definitions of the words "alternative" "fact" and "lie", it absolutely is both logically sound and true. A fact must necessarily be true in order to meet the definitional criteria of the word "fact", which means a non-fact (a lie) is the only possible alternative to a fact.
@K31TH3R that's not true
Putting Elon in charge of anything in the goverment is like putting a serial killer as the judge and jurty of his own trial. The coflicts of interest and potential for corruption is unmeasurable.
😂😂 totally agree this will backfire on them fast this guy can’t relate to 99.9% of Americans!!
That’s why he backed Trump all of a sudden. He’s gonna get even richer now. Not forgetting the lucrative contracts his space x are certain to receive now.
@ramlozz8368 99.99999999% of amricans. He truely believes he is the apex
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Corruption is not a thing anymore if it's legal. And in USA it's legal and huge way before Elon was a thing. Now they will pay the cost, the invisible hand will slap hard and I'm totally ok about it.
Everything that goes wrong will be somebody else’s fault. These people are hopeless.
Sounds like a section of Brits that do just that. Blame everyone else.
Yeah blame James O'Brien
@@robertcumming9227 blame him for smearing Corbyn
I'm really interested how the party that now controls every branch of the US government is gonna blame the woke left when they inevitably fail to deliver anything again
Exactly, the same as with Brexit, apparently the problem is it hasn't been radical enough.
That last sentence hit hard!
Because a huge chunk of Americans will have to realize what they did after trump, and start making the right choices!
Basically, the ones who are not weak minded and gullible, have to suffer alongside those who are weak minded and gullible, just so they can learn a lesson!
Wicked unfair!
And it may not matter or come to that. They may not have time to learn. Or the capacity to.
Oh my dear, that is democracy.....
No, we did make the right choice. Cope more since you seem determined to stay ignorant.
Amen to the last part of your comment!
I’m an American. I’m dating a German. His grandparents remember World War 2 and the aftermath. They gave me a stark warning months ago to not make their parent’s mistake. Well, I guess now we find out for ourselves.
we are discussing our inevitable marriage but it won’t be in the United States.
Yeah, I’m American and the amount of apathy to Trump is terrifying. The next 4 years will be at minimum chaos and at the worst mass atrocity. Neither are great.
best wishes for your marriage, hopefully trump doesnt send the world into chaos and you can live life in germany or another country without him affecting it
Hopefully you can move to Germany. One of my cousins met a German guy, moved over there, got married, and she's aghast at what's been happening here.
I heard that someone with a Germany born parent can get a German citizenship. What if someone has TWO Germany born GRANDparents? Would that qualify?
@ Yes that qualifies. They changed the requirements to grandparents being OK
Everything is going to work out just fine and dandy in the US under Trump - for the BILLIONAIRE class, that is!
But if there are no peasants left with any means of capital then billionaires fall too.
So no change then 😂
@@wulfhere83 Cutting out the middle man and letting billionaires get what they want directly is next level corruption, i'd say thats a change.
@@MeoithTheSecond Oh fair enough, so it's just the nature of how those billionaires get their chunk of pie. Indirectly is fine, directly is bad. Fair comment.
@@tylertyler82
Why do you think so many of them started investing abroad?
13:20 I'm tired of being told we have to coddle the feelings of fools just because they're uncomfortable of being told they're wrong.
Yes, Idiocracy deserved a better sequel. They're usually disappointing, but not like this.
@@MicheleGardini why does Idiocracy need a sequel while we're living it?
Ya exactly, then those who do the coddling put guys like soft serve Merrick Garland incharge. Trump and his buddies should have been held accountable 2 or 3 years ago....they're all in group that none of us belong to.
You can't tell them they've believed something that's not true without being called patronizing or condescending. It's insanity
@@lordvadertheleftie9703 because that's what you get when you let democracy get hijacked by capitalism.
We need to get off our high horse in the UK, we aren't much smarter than the Americans (see reform plc supporters for example). People unironically believe a millionaire investment banker who spends more time in Florida than his own constituency cares about the working class.
True although the numbers supporting Reform / Nigel - whilst very disappointing - are nowhere near the level that support the Republicans / Trump.
It's about the number of people. Our median voter despises Trump and Farage. Their median voter wanted to give Trump another chance
😂😂😂
@leikfroakies speak for yourself there's millions who love them 😂😂
@TheShellw1977 And millions more who despise him. There are 70 million people in this country, 4 million isn't half of who voted for Jeremy Corbyn and no one's going to argue he's popular
You could see perception of reality shift when the media didn't push back on George Bush's tales of weapons of mass destruction. I truly believe that if Bush was held accountable, Trump would also be.
But then Obama would have to held accountable for things he did. Then everyone else around them.
@jasonpage9986 You really think I don't want everyone held accountable?
@@antinatalope I think there's just a long history of immunity, and Bush was immune cos of it.
@antinatalope
Why didn't you mention Obama in your status then?
@stephenalex4345 Because the problem predates him. Everyone after was given a pass, because we wouldn't hold earlier leaders accountable.
As a vulnerable person this is terrifying.
@@DanielleBanyard why are you vulnerable 🤔
@@marktullett-g2fillness, mental or physical, age, who knows. Not really your business. Poor etiquette to ask
@@minui8758 don’t say your vulnerable then. If your not stating why Trump is making you terrified
@@marktullett-g2f I don’t have a problem with it. One is allowed to state something without explicating the full circumstances. Quite normal really
@@marktullett-g2fmaybe because Trump will certainly try to scrap the affordable care act? Anybody that has a condition will not be able to get insurance coverage
Ask the average church going American the age of the Earth and they will say 6,000 years old. How do you contend with that level of willful ignorance?
Ask a Muslim or any other faith if there is a little man in the sky. How do you contend with that?
Same crowd sponsor similar churches in norn iron... Mental bar stewards
@@michaelgriffiths5723The vast majority of religious people in the USA are christian, not Muslim. How do you contend with that?
I live in Kentucky. We actually have a model of the majic zoo boat right here in my state. It's crazy how religiously blind these people are. They wait for Jesus everyday.
@@michaelgriffiths5723 world champion 🏆 of whataboutism
Please don’t say 60% of people voted for him. He currently has 50.2% (75.57 mil) vs 48.1% (72.4 mil) of popular vote. Our electoral college is DEI for rural states.
Rural states are feeding you.
@@wulfhere83and the blue cities subsidize it.
@@wulfhere83Feeding off *
It's largely a moot point
@@09daniscool I like how your mind works .
We're living in the upside-down.
we are back in the 1930s....
@kanedNunable 😂😂😂 oh yes it is so bad 😂😂😂 lefties are going crazy 😂😂😂😂
@@Britking1what’s a “leftie”?
It's a normal part of the political cycle under unbridled capitalism, neoliberal economic policies and long-term oligarchic control of politics.
@ uh huh 🙄
Elon, the man who will sack workers rather than give them a pay rise. Is on the side of workers 😂
Elon sacked 80% of Twitter employees and the company carried on as if nothing had happened. Imagine that - all those shiftless leeches glomming onto that one business. Fair play, I say.
Meanwhile, not a moment's pause from these two self-important pontificators to consider the growing and immense power of the state in both the USA and the UK.
Whilst they slyly slur all Trump voters as conspiracy wingnuts, they blissfully grow their own paranoid theories as they perform their socialist werrit over small government types (at last) getting a turn at the controls.
All the while, theyre wilfully oblivious to the debt-spiralizers in hundreds of government departments, building papier-mâché empires out of other people's money.
We're simply tired of socialism. Give us back control, and give us back our money.
He wanted to force them to work during lockdowns because making his cars was more important than their health but sure. He'll definitely carr about you blue collar Tim. People so naive
@@anthosm and the guy who bought twitter in the name of "free speech" just to talk about fake censorship and justify real censorship , not to mention actions that could be classified as treacherous at the very least.
@@anthosmyou do know that to pay workers you need to sell goods right? No workers -> no goods to sell -> no revenue -> no pay or business.
@@michaelsimpson4400 so you literally value profits above human lives. 👍
Too many Americans have to see rock bottom.
Eon, and Trump will get way richer in the process.
Musk said that Americans need to suffer. He's not going to suffer.
Yanks sit in their $70,000 pickup, drinking their $6 coffee, and snivel about their poverty using a $1,000 phone.
@@canadiangemstones7636 with 3-4 maxed out credit cards!
@@canadiangemstones7636 exactly
Sometimes someone has to eat the poison to prove to everyone else that poison is poison.
The current system isn't working for Musk? Err he seems to be doing a whole lot better than just about any one else.
He wants more autonomy, he is lining hos pockets with government contracts but is frustrated he is not getting more.
He wants to be Emporor of Space; he does not have that yet, so government is not working for him.
Financially yeah..But he's void of human decency, empathy just like his n0nce daddy..that's what greed and materialism does to some..!!
@@WesterossFox Are you saying I should be against that or for it?
@@jasonpage9986 I actually admire what Musk has achieved in his life, with the idea of EV's reducing the carbon footprint and the radical steps that SpaceX has taken with reusable rockets.
However, he has now partnered himself with an authoritarian president who hates renewable energy. He wants total autonomy on the space sector and a overhaul of the FAA which hold him accountable and delay any of his projects.
All of this is not for the betterment of mankind, he has a similar sized ego to Trump and both will come to blows sooner rather than later.
He gave away just over 100 million for his endorsement of Trump on the largest social media platform in the world, to con the voters and gain billions back in funding.
All to keep Trump out of jail. He is a shyster
The fact that people talk as if Trump did not have a bad and lame presidency just some years ago astonishes me.
He was great till he destroyed Obama's economy.
@@Scott1433Oh FFS y'all are like children.
@@therealking6202 oohh touched a nerve.
@@Scott1433you people truly have the minds of children. No wonder you believe everything Trump tells you like gospel. From the total lack of understanding of government and the economy, to the schoolyard bullying and gloating like you just won a game of kickball.
@Scott1433 this is the political equivalent to of "my dad could beat up your dad" and it's a bad look.
Right wing libertarians have finally defeated ‘The Establishment’ by ……….. becoming The Establishment.
TRÜMP IS the Deep State
I would say they’re not the establishment but Mafioso
Again
They've always been the Establishment, hiding behind a mask of convenient Populism. It was never any kind of 'New World Order' that was the danger, it was the Old World Order of feudal hierarchy based on heredity and extreme wealth re-establishing itself with a vengeance. Here comes the New World, same as the Old World.
Hurrah 👍
People think Trump and Elon will work form them. Too funny.
I would rather have them then starmer
@@Britking1based on what?
Don't forget Putin, he's on the team too.
@@MWG87based on how the u.k is getting run at this moment
@@Britking1 based on how you feel?
I saw the term 'Broligarch' to describe people like Musk, Thiel, Bezos, etc. I am concerned with the democracies around the world and the influence of the money in politics more broadly.
It will be great
You see it happening too. Were spiraling backwards HARD.
Two apartheid-era south african tech-bros had a major influence on this election... fElon and Thiel... yuck 🤮
You should be worried
Don't act like Democrats are the same as Republicans!
You can only Collaborate so closely, and "proper Decorum" can only serve as so many free passes for so many psychopaths, tho...
I think it's unfair to say a country deserves the leader it votes for. But what about the leader it doesnt bother to vote against?
Millions and millions of people who voted agaisdnt Trump last time didn't bother to vote this time.
He won this time with fewer votes than last time, when he lost.
@@SerendipityChild A lot of them were in Michigan and they didn't vote because of the Gaza situation. I don't agree with them because Trump will be worse on Gaza but I'm just telling you what I have heard and believe to be true.
@@trappedinamerica7740 at this point anyone who voted for this has lost any sympathy from me from the pain theyre about to experience.
@@trappedinamerica7740 Yes. Lot's of groups warned they would withhold votes because of Gaza. The mainstream media reported that but did not take them seriously. Now they might. Too late. Both major parties are equally guilty over Gaza.
Trump should do whatever he wants, after all "he is a businessman" well versed in bankrupt and he is still standing, even after being convicted. Americans need a felon because he knows all the tricks to drive the country into the ground just like his business. He will never pay any price but Americans will. This is what America cheered for.
My only hope is that people will experience the damage and wake up. It's unfortunate that we cannot explain it to them, they have to see/exprience it unfolding. Perhaps U.S. can learn and comeback stronger? Or on the downside, somehow they''ll figure out how to pin it on Democrats. Then I will say DT promised if elected he will make things better! No excuses! Wait...excuses again??? You're still finding someway to defend him?
The corporate media wanted trump. They missed the drama.
Unfortunately this is so unbelievably true.
They made hundreds of millions $$
That’s a fair comment
Corporations want Trump. They like not paying tax.
@@SerendipityChildmost of them don't, but all farmers do
Perception and Facts are not interchangeable words.
They didn’t used to be…. the incessant propaganda delegitimizes the meaning of words
EXACTLY! That was one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard and was right up there with Conway's moronic statement.
Trump just hired a fox news host to be the secretary of defence. Think about that for a moment.
Well, there is that he was a vaunted combat veteran. I would thinkthe first hand experience at fighting for his country gives him unique perspective.
Matt Gaetz is AG.
@@nelliemcclung6801Wonder if he knows tRump is a draft dodger who mocks veterans?
@@nelliemcclung6801i don't think being a grunt in the army qualifies you to lead the army, similar that flipping burgers at McDonald's isn't qualifying you to be the general manager
@@diffenedinsanity
The state might be a slight problem but the issue is by far capitalism than a state trying to help the poor. And libertarians typically want free markets because they want the rich to control everything.
Libertarians think they're going to get rich and if they don't they weren't worthy.
Yes. Capitalism by its definition does not want to support the majority. Only entitle and further empower the wealthy. More socialism please
Can we do the improvement part without the corruption, nepotism and further exacerbation of income inequality which is driving the politics in the US? Super; thanks .
That ship is sailing
Considering Trump is less corrupt than the Democrats, we're trying.
It’s a strange argument isn’t it? Electing the guy who threatens democracy, is the best thing for democracy.
Threatens it how? By being democratically elected by a landslide?🙄
I watched many leftist journalists go to trump rallies, and ask several trump supporters, if they would vote for a democrat over Putin. All chose Putin. They don’t want democracy anymore.. they said “maybe it was time for a dictatorship”
How does he threaten democracy? I think it's the party that jails and prosecuted their political opponents with shame trials that is a threat to democracy.
The American electorate said F it!
38% of eligible voters did not show up.
1% voted for a third party, which had no chance at all.
The remaining 61% was split 31% for him, and 30% for her.
And this is what they call 'Democracy'!
I don't think a full 38% said F it but it was high, I think at least a few percent of that was a direct result of voter suppression.
@@yessanknow302Yes. Is it not longer a democracy because your candidate didn't win? That's not a democracy, that's tyranny.
I think they may still be counting votes, but even if counting has now concluded for the Presidential race, the gap between Trump and Harris has been significantly reduced to just a couple of million votes.
Please keep in mind that Montana and Idaho were called for Trump before any votes were reported as counted in those two states. Also keep in mind that there are plenty of “blue” voters in “red” states. I am from Missouri, considered to be a “deep red state” and yet over 40% of our electorate voted for Harris.
With the amount of misogyny and racism in our U.S. American society coupled with the amount of time Harris had to campaign relative to the Time Trump had, she really should have lost by quite a larger margin.
You are right. It’s less than 1.5%, which is, statistically, within the margin of error. There was no landslide or mandate.
Agree - she did spectacularly well
Also keep in mind the sly Republicans passing legislation in various states ending with almost 15 million voters denied the right to vote ,Thousand's of dumped postal votes being found ,this was the stolen Election not 2020
I'm not convinced that she lost. Elon Musk should not have been involved. We should demand a recount. If she actually did lose, then the matter will be settled.
What I hate about conspiracy theories is that any theory, no matter how wacky, 'might' be true if someone or some group stands to gain financially in some way.
What I hate about people like you is that you take everything you hear on the bbc and LBC as gospel
@@theshed3641what has any of what he’s said got to do with LBC or the BBC?You goose
@@Tsuka-bn8hq 🤦🏻♂️ really?
And the left-wing conspiracy theory that this election was stolen has now been confirmed by Russia of all countries by their words and their actions. And thanks to the internet we actually have the receipts!
@@theshed3641 - What you hate is that no one takes you seriously. And they never will.
Never beat against the stupidity of the average American voter.
The irony of your misspelling 😂
Not 60% of the electorate. 10 million LESS people voted for Kamala vs Biden. At the same time, trump received approximately the same number that voted for him last time. People just stayed home. Tired of it all but just lazy. It will cost us all.
Really, what do you think kamala would do to make things better?
@dmartind3 the late night pallots of blue ballots got lost in the mail this election…
@caleblowdon8134 at the absolute very least, she isn't Trump.
@Mack.Flurry3 does that just prove you can't think of anything?
@@Harry-TramAnh if that's the conclusion you want to come to, sure.
Your guest is full of it. Anyone framing this as politic as usual has no idea what is really going on. Policy didn't matter, the things you think are THE reasons are way way off. It's a cult of personality, politics has nothing what so ever to do with it.
I'm not sure what specifically you don't agree with, but much of what this guy is saying is spot on. Peter Thiel and Elon Musk believe all that nonsense about techno feudalism and crushing democracy. Also many folks do believe in an evil PDF cabal in the federal government and most on the right are now willing to lean into those fringe beliefs. Dems were left defending the status quo which is currently high inflation and raising prices, not to mention the housing price crisis.
Totally agree with you RobertK. The guest has the luxury of not being personally involved.
If he said policies matter that is beyond absurd. If people voted on policy, the Repubs would be toast.
That, and Trump going to where his voters were - multiple podcasts- and concluding every talk promising to make them better off. They believed in the Trump they saw on The Apprentice for years, no wonder they swallowed the rest of his lies
@@davidmanning7912Trump didnt even do that. He just entertained people. The dude never talked about policy. I thinj americans just want the government to be a reality tv show so they arent so bored.
There is 2 points between them in the popular vote right now, which is within the margin of error like polls and prognosticators said. This was not a landslide.
Still lost everything though and there is no reason to think that the election will happen in 4 years time.
It is in the sense of how many states he won, including every swing state. He also won the popular vote and this rarely occurs for Republicans. The last time this happened was after the boost G.W. Bush got after 911.
Thank you for saying it as it is. It’s not a landslide
in the battle-ground states it was even closer as on avg they were around 1 point apart.
It WAS a landslide. The Americans KNEW what Trump was and voted for him anyway with a GREATER vote share. America has shown its real soul to the rest of the World and it is stinking inky black.
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking in the last statement. American democracy possibly doesn't exist anymore. We'll see how far this administration will go.
We now live in an idiocracy. Social media has fried brains and short attention spans. I think people voted for Trump just for the entertainment value. People dont care about policy anymore, hence why they voted for a guy who wouldnt shut up about hamabal lector and didnt talk about anything he would do sides "nobody but me can fix everything"
Can't believe how far I had to scroll for a comment like yours. Totally agree. If they didn't patch the flaws after the first Trump presidency, there's not going to be anything to salvage after the second...
You are so ignorant.
It's almost like founding a nation based on the ideals of religious puritanism and tax evasion might have been a bad idea...
Makes sense but the first line of the first amendment to the US constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" which was ratified in 1791. It's widely accepted that we do not mix church and state. Most fundamental Christians in the US choose to ignore this but most lawmakers in congress understand it's the law of the land and it has been upheld by the Supreme Court several times. So no it wasn't founded with this in mind but it was added pretty quickly. Now the tax evasion thing, yeah agree wholeheartedly. Lots of people on the right regard anything we pay for with tax money as "socialism" and view them as evil. Except when you bring up military, police, firefighter, etc they somehow think those are not socialism. The amount of propaganda and disinformation/misinformation in the US is mindblowing. There are no consequences for anything you say here. Including lying to millions of people about an election being stolen which resulted in a violent insurrection. The US has seen better days for sure.
@@Nugschris Well, under the King George situation, our America wasn't seeing socialism. It was just seeing the experience of being Britain's cash cow. Had King George instituted some sort of colony-side socialist system, out of a burst of altruism in his heart, we Americans might have still been a colony of Britain to this day. As it was, those who were willing to organize a resistance (still a minority) decided that independence was the more satisfactory route. It seemed pretty appealing because the foreign trade that had been inuring to Britain's benefit would now be inuring to ours, with nothing changed except the formal name of the payee and merchant on our end.
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 George III was not in charge of the USA, or Taxation ... The UK Government was led by Lord North, a Conservative
@@Nugschris Separation of church and state was the intent , but there are ?537 elected between House/Senate/WH of which I think only 1 is openly atheist/agnostic/naturalistic. He might not be still be in the House, and he only came out before winning a second term.
Would probably put the openly atheist/agnostic/etc percentage of population at at least 10%, probably closer to 30% if people were more open about.
We recreated Kings with extra steps.
So revolting
It's started with creating the mini kings and queens on The Extreme Court... just so in the bag for republicans and their corruption. Of course that started with Reagan, Heritage Society, Federalist Society and the dark money he set loose on america.
Enter the era of the trump dynasty 🫠
Elon Musk is Trump’s Rasputin
Steve Bannon more like
He's actually what their entire party's claims about George Soros looks like when it actually happens.
@col.hertford9855 why can't he have two rasputin?? Sure he wouldn't just want one 😂
Russia's greatest love machine!
RFK jr has been appointed USA'S health guru.
America: the crapshow that never stops giving. 😅
i keep thinking these announcements are a joke only to find they're serious
@@neonwired4978 the joke is on us!
uk will always be a uk vassalstate
Who else is here searching for silver linings?
You don't need one.
Trump won!👍
My take is that things move very slow at the federal level and I think it will take more than four years to rip out the pipes of the federal government.
@@gradyshmalady8284Or two years should the Democrats take back control of either chamber of congress
One big Silver Lining is this at least slows down the implementation of progressive ideology. You should be all smiles about that!
Less wars?
There is no analogy that expresses what America has done. "Cutting off ones nose to spite ones face "does not cover it. In the future THIS event will be used when trying to describe how a thing is utterly self emulating. And FFS, NO PREFERRED OUTCOME WILL COME OF IT.
Wholeheartedly agree
I'm an American voter. One of the most frustrating things to me about our current political system is the near invisibility of the left. I consider myself a Democratic Socialist and people like me are not represented in our public square, except for the rare occasions when our corporate mainstream media will allow Bernie Sanders near a microphone. He is literally the most liked and trusted politician in our country but on our news stations he's treated like a crackpot uncle. All our discourse is set up to ignore the political left here. For instance in any poll about opposing candidates, Harris and Trump, for example, if you say you disapprove of Harris and her policies it is automatically assumed that you are supporting Trump. There is no way to effectively communicate criticism of a Democratic candidate from the left. Our political spectrum goes from ultra-Rightwing to Center Right and there it ends. How can we ever convey a different option to voters if they have no idea that such options exist?
Revolution?
It’s like those who see revolution as a chance to rebuild w/o mentioning that if you’re going to rebuild something, you have to tear it down first. This will only end in tears.
Wholeheartedly agree
And rebuilding takes a much longer time than tearing stuff down
Can we go back to the 90s? Please?
I also want my boring life back.
80’s
Perhaps the US should try democracy? I mean something like : an end to the two party system, proportional representation, a total ban on political party funding except for personal donations up to 50$/year.
That would take an act of Bernie Sanders style leftist populism, which doesn’t seem likely at this point
Election reform is badly needed.
That would require that the left starts to agree with the 2nd amendment, and convincing a lot on the right to join them at this point. Because it's not happening by referendum.
It’s called Jacksonian Democracy - going all the way back to an old bloke named Andrew Jackson. The 2 parties, in one form or another, have been entrenched in the American system for 2 centuries. It WILL NOT change.
@@babybijou969Democrats being so corrupt is why we have Trump. If they bharat cheated for Hillary in 2016, Bernie wins.
The best best chance for democracy is honesty. Honesty is to explain problems in a vulnerable way and not a defensive way.
Let us know if you find it somewhere. I'm looking for it, also.
@rossanderson5243-That beautifully explains why the United States is in the process of losing their democracy. Honesty is a rarity and has been for decades. Propaganda has taken over, exponentially each year, particularly since the advent of the internet. The writing has been on the wall for a while now.
Unfortunately the bad faith actors do not value or implore honest activity
Can't wait for the new betrayals towards Musk & others. You think he's not after Musk's $ just to be higher on the list.
I suppose it's a kinda "go on then" moment.
But, the media will have to pull their finger out 👉
Its the corruption/donor money!!!!! Thats why its malfunctioning!!!
@@spencera1129 who Biden??? And his donor money
Citizens United is a travesty.
Reagan set us on this path of corruption and dark money.
@@marktullett-g2f waaaaay before Biden
“Survival of the richest.”
Dr Bolsen
Soros?
Elon Musk, Paul Singer, Steve Schwarzman, Peter Theil, Miriam Adelson, Diane Hendrix, Harold Hamm, Andrew Beal, Bernard Marcus, Tilman Fertitta, Bill Ackman, Jeffery Hildebrand, Kelcy Warren, Ike Perlmutter, John Paulson, Steve Wynn, Warren Stephens, Winklevoss twins, Linda McMahon, Timothy Dunn, Geoffrey Palmer, Phil Ruffin, Robert Mercer, Robert Bigelow, Ron Cameron, to name some of the billionaires funding trump
In case my reply is deleted: article from Business Insider, published 10/28/24, titled “40 of the richest donors funneling money to Donald Trump: Elon Musk, Steve Schwarzman, and more”
I, unlike many Trump supporters, will be fair with the facts and admit that Harris had billionaire backers as well.. however Trump had 4x as many - so we can see where that balance of influence went
@@babybijou969 Kamala raised over a billion dollars and spent more than she raised in less than two. Trump only spent a little more than a third of that over 16 months. Tie that fact in with your post....
Darwinian for "libertarian anarcho-capitalists," is simply their euphemism for eugenicism.
It is Brexit all over..
Exactly the same campaign of disinformation targeting mostly low information voters
@@Ohne_Silikone yep it’s called democracy 🤔
@@marktullett-g2f It’s called disaster 😂😂😂
@@marktullett-g2f and how did that work out? The majority of Brits regret that vote
@@babybijou969 🙄🙄🙄it’s called democracy. Doesn’t matter if you regret something you voted for. Democracy gave you the chance to vote. More people voted for Trump and for Brexit.
You lot aren’t even listening to what Trump is saying right now. Maybe check up on it
Behind most conspiracy theories, is a mustard seed of truth. And the rest is lies.
They are no longer in the pizza shop. They are in the Whitehouse now.
No pizzas in Trump's diet, only McDonald's!
That was Obama.
@@stephenalex4345 what was Obama?
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Standard answer for everything. An idiot in my local paper lauded how Trump will bring back racial harmony since Obama agitated it 2008.
The truth cannot be conjured up, no matter how many people believe the lies.
Darwin's "survival of the fittest," does not mean survival of the strongest, but survival of the most appropriate.
The most effective conspiracy theory has been the Establishment one that dismisses all critical views as conspiracy theories.
In complex electrical systems, the worst enemy is what is known in the trade as “tweekers”, those people that cannot resist tweeting things with a screwdriver, a tool that in the wrong hands can destroy systems or create major disruption as faults develops because of those anonymous tweekers.
It appears that Trump has appointed some tweekers to the government.
We can expect some disruption in the coming months for sure.
Complex electrical system are adjusted by a screwdriver, are they? XD
It's called a brogan adjustment.
Some disruption… is an understatement
The core problem is USA is one of the wealthiest nations, yet the highest income disparity between the wealthy and poorest in society
Must be nice to be able to dispassionately make these predictions without fear of the consequences of being wrong. Some might call it a privilege. I'm sure people said similar things about Hitler's ascendancy to the German Chancellorship in 1933. Not many of them were Jews, I'm sure.
I mean the book that framed this conversation was published in 1997.
Even if systems are broken and let’s say there really does need to be a reset of democracy and global economics, etc (although what’s needed is fixing and adjusting, not destruction of everything).… These guys are not the ones who should be doing it. It’s like installing Charles Manson as Minister of Peace and Compassion.
He didn't explain why. The video cut off before he could.
So wish we had a James in America.
Jon Stewart buddy…
So wish we had a Trump in the UK
You can have him.
Your joking? The guys a gossip columnist at best
You need a decent education. NOT happening in the USA.
I made a comment saying Trump had 72 million votes and Kamala had 69 million compared to 2020 when Biden had 81 million and Trump 71 million. The Trump voter jumped to conspiracies about missing votes. I was implying that the votes weren’t missing, but that merely people just didn’t come out to vote because the candidate was bad or the message was terrible.
And she was a black woman. Not a man.
Well, when people are only getting their information from one side about the opposition then it's not about the messaging but the machine at work with the distribution of that information.
@@walterbo7687 That has an awful lot to do with it !!!!!
The latest numbers are Trump 77 m / Harris 75 . But your point stands
Biden's numbers were an anomaly from previous election totals that lend to the theory that several million of his 2020 votes were invalid mail in ballots, like the several thousand mail in ballots in Pennsylvania that did not have a signature and Nevada counting more ballots than it had registered voters etc. If you believe Biden won by the margin he did in 2020 you would have to believe he was a more popular incoming president than Obama etc. That's asking a lot for a candidate that campaigned for the most part in 2020 from his basement but somehow motivated 10million more voters than normal to vote Democrat. Biden's true valid voter numbers in 2020, were probably more in line with Kamala's or Obama's numbers and consistent with the median Democrat voter totals every election year this century.
Umm pollimg was right. Polling margin of error is 3.5% and all polling was there. In fact the the popular vote was 2% (prolly lower when counting finishes).
The entire election hinged on less than 300,000 votes.
I actually can’t wait for everybting to inevitably get worse under trump. Whether that’s immature and ridiculous to say, I don’t care. The fact we are where we are is even more ridiculous. I’m sure I will feel the negative impacts as well but the only thing that might knock some sense into these idiots is for things to get much worse when they were promised the stars
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Reality isnt negotiable. A fact is a fact, if someones actions steal an object, they stole it.
There are no facts anymore, just equally valid opinions that should be heard in the interests of impartiality
@@stephencusack1675 - False balance.
Missed the point completely by being trapped in your emotions. Facts are facts, but can be viewed as such from two or even several positions. The same football can be factual white if only view from a transfixed point, whilst view from the other side, the leather is factually blue. Until of course it is rolled forward and both sides see the merged fact.
The same is true of a coin that can be heads one side and tails the other whilst still factually being a coin,
Switch of the emotional bunkering, and understand that “facts are facts” is definitively a statement of ideological monopoly.
Some fact facts are immutable and incontrovertible. For example of someone cuts anything human, the red stuff seeping out is blood! Unless of course you’ve cut an abscess or a blister… ;-) so facts can be prone to the subjective as well as the objective
Trump has proven otherwise. Reality is what you claim it is as long as half the population feels that it's true.
The point made wasn't that "facts aren't real" or that "reality is negotiable", but that the facts available to a given individual will affect their perception of reality. Theoretically, if someone has sufficient facts they could have an "objectively correct" perception of reality. Nobody has that. Therefore, pretty much everyone's perception of reality runs on a multi-directional sliding scale of accuracy in relation to individual questions of fact. For example, most people know that gravity exists in some capacity because an object falls to the ground when you let go of it. A lot more people are less confident about how exactly electricity works. Both of these are physical, tangible, measurable and observable forces.
When you apply that framework of limited knowledge of facts = limited perception of reality, it's easy to see how people make mistakes. This is of course why education is important and why we should all ideally be at least a little bit politically and economically educated because these things are particularly complicated. Reality isn't negotiable, but people's perceptions of reality are extremely negotiable. By controlling what people learn, you can control how accurate their perception of reality is.
I could listen to these two all day
When the status quo increasingly isn't working for the majority of people then the ideology that represents the status quo will lose. Kamala Harris and staying in the EU both represented the status quo and people will vote against it even when the change makes things worse for them.
Spin spin spin
Simple, the word is PLUTOCRACY.
This conversation is idiotic. James seems to think that musk and trump have some insightful ideology…
Huh? Not really
That's not what he said at all, but it is how Peter Thiel and Elon Musk think. They believe in a sort of techno feudalism and death of democracy.
How does their vision for America differ from yours? What does your Utopia look like? Bigger government? No moral boundaries? Honestly, what is the biggest difference between you and Trump in terms of ideology? Don't throw out talking points, be real.
The only caveat to this election is that Democrats still won Senate seats in states Trump carried. This means that people who went to the ballot box for Trump didn't vote down ballot for Republicans, if at all. It'll be interesting to see what a post-Trump Republican Party will look like.
Now that's something I can't wait for. 😂
@@RBickersjr Don Jr. 2028!!
*I fought to get Bernie elected in 2016 and 2020.* *If we were allowed to get Bernie as a President and his policies, we would NOT have Trump now.*
FFS, Bernie never could get the black vote. In Democratic primaries it's a non-starter. And you think the 2018 midterm swing was huge? I admire Bernie, but he has the outsiders advantage.
Unfortunately the DNC will not permit an actual leftist/populist candidate at the top of the ticket.. only their Corporate Democrats who support AIPAC. All other candidates get snuffed out
I think if Bernie made to the white house, half his party would turn on him. It's all about what the DONORS want.
Folks, you seem to have missed something: MAGA was actually subliminally referencing the Antebellum South - a return to "plantation fiefdoms" except with corporations in the place of actual plantations. Musk is perfectly suited (and vying) for this given his background.
MAGAGA would absolutely *not* have accepted a loss..
There should be a TEST to vote, just like the drivers licence.
and a TEST to be allowed to have babies. Billionaires need more consumers so they push for larger populations. But they sure dont want to help your baby once its born.
That’s one way of guaranteeing no creep of communism . Great idea!
As an American, I agree.
As an American that comes across as a bit chilling if you know the history of the Jim Crow South. Poll tests were, with impossible questions, were used for years to disenfranchise Black people.
We probably have to fight for it. Millions of people, when they uprise, that's the real power. We than DECLARE. The word is the ultimate power. The wise shall rule over the stars.
The US clown-bus is driving...
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I guess it's true -- letting weirdos do their thing is the most direct way to prove to to them that reality exists and it's not what they thought it is
I guess that's why the Church completely collapsed about 600 years ago under the pressure of the Renaissance and the Age of Reason...
Things are pretty terrible for people across the board. Trickle down does not work. Inequality is rising. People want change so they vote for anyone who promises it. Brexit, Trump, they’re all the same thing. Economists need to stop looking at graphs and go outside; they really do not understand what people are going through
This is the best discussion I have heard James engage in, ever. Thanks.
The world Musk wants is one hardly anyone would want to live in. Cruelty, indifference, force over fairness, lies over truth, corruption over compassion. Of course, even the strongest eventually become weak. Musk and his ilk seem to think their wealth can shield them from time itself, but this is a delusion. The day will come when he will look around in desperation for any sign of compassion only discover the world he built has no room for it. Our only hope is that the scope of that creation will be limited to some remote mansion, and not the Earth itself.
Those ‘attributes’ of his were formed by him growing up in apartheid South Africa, where his family acquired great wealth on the backs of the oppressed
so... I disagree with 'democracy is failing'... autocracy is failing, you just can't see it...
Autocracy seems to rising
Gabriel’s podcast on BBC sounds, the coming storm, is an excellent series, compulsive listening for anyone interested in what’s going on in the world right now.
I second this recommendation. Absolutely gripping listening.
The book is fantastic also.
I thought it pandered a bit to the right and was too gentle on the insanity of modern day American right wingers. In one episode he called the Russian collusion saga a conspiracy theory in comparison to qanon. Another one too concerned about being perfectly balanced in detriment to the facts.
@@alaingSEO thank you for this critique
It's the ewsj and you know it!!
Empathizing with fools turns one into a fool.
Trumps and his supporters whole “America first” thing would be much better described as “Me first”. That’s what it actually boils down to.
Yes, O' Brien said a similar thing when he learned of Trumps victory. What he actually means is how dare people care about the cost of a loaf of bread over my luxury beliefs. Or as Marie Antoinette once famously put it "What, the peasants have no bread, why let them eat cake".
The major problem that i see here is that they see the world from their perspective of Ultra Rich they incompetent !! 99.9% doesn’t live like that so this will backfire bad for them!! And push for more progressive reforms and go after them, FDR style after the Great Depression!! 😅
Unfortunately, while I agree, it needs to affect people in a major way for any real change to come, IMO at least.
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@@gradyshmalady8284 It will have an effect! Just wait-inflation and tariffs will drive prices up, further suppressing the middle and lower classes. Additionally, there will be significant pushback against the mass deportations and wars, likely leading to civil unrest in the streets. I don’t understand why people forget what happened four years ago with this guy!
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The polls were right and it was close. Small percentages where it mattered.
the only conspiracy i've seen about this is ,how according to joe rogan and dana white,did elon get the results 4 hours early if he didn't have access to what was going through starlink, and if he had the access could he alter it.
Entirely "unsurprised" by a 50/50 coin toss. Woah, amazing work Nostradamus.
Musks government dept of "efficiency" reminds me of Yes Minister and the "Dept of Administrative Affairs"
Or the Office of Circumlocution
54% of Americans read at a 6th grade level or lower!
And whose fault is that. Which party has had a virtual lip lock on k-12 for 50 years?