@@danypell2517 Please be careful when FSD is driving your car. It is still a primitive buggy system, even after almost 4 years of beta testing. A human can think, and reason, and instantly adapt to new or unexpected situations. FSD cannot do that.
@@DerekDavis213 Humans suck at driving. Over a million of us die every year doing it. I’m guessing you are either shorting Tesla stock, have interest in one of its competitors, or you are in the transportation industry where vast numbers of jobs are made redundant by automated driving.
@@DerekDavis213FSD is literally designed to adapt to new and unexpected situations, which is why Perception is such an important part of the FSD suite
I bought a used Model 3 today (first Tesla I've ever owned or even driven) just because of how good FSD is getting. Really impressive stuff. I'm stuck on 12.3 though. GIMME 12.3.2.1!
I have a 2024 MY and same fsd here in canada a couple days ago. The drives are amazing but it speeds way too fast on city streets 14 km over the sped limit. Here in BC the police are kinda ok with 10 over. 14 is a speeding ticket. I need the scroll wheel adjustment with auto speed setting. I am going to a park today and see if can maintain a slow speed. Very exciting times ahead.
V12.3 was good and V12.3.2.1 is better. It adds auto park as well. I have been using V12.3 for several weeks on most of my drives and just got V12.3.2.1 yesterday. It finally stays to the right on unmarked roads. The auto speed is light years ahead of V11 where it just ran the speed limit and you had to ride the scroll wheel. So much better.
I drove a 2020 M3 loaner from the Tesla service center. I checked to see if it had FSD and it did. I put my destination in the nav and turned on FSD once on the freeway. It flawlessly got me 90% of the way there although it stayed behind a car going 10 under for too long. As we merged onto a different freeway, on an elevated ramp, it decided to phantom brake. Nope, wouldn't use it if it were free.
Realize it is always improving. Two years ago mine would phantom brake as well (remote highways) now it phantom brakes never. So your “nope” will evolve as the program does.
I think it’s utter nonsense that those who are on version 2024.8.7 are not going to see v12 for many more months. For some reason there are two Tesla test teams that have two different versions of software and it’s random if you get the software track that has the FSD updates. To make matters worse we will not get the free month trial when fsd 12 is added to the software branch. Which makes this unfair to the customer base. 😢
This is what I expected 7 years ago when this was labelled "beta". Finally we are getting to the minimum acceptable capabilities. NOW the hard work will begin with starting to handle the more uncommon edge cases. Like Elon said, getting from 0 to 99% accuracy is as easy as getting from 99 to 99.99%. I'm still curious how this will handle rougher weather conditions. Snow. Rain. Sun right into the cameras. That will be interesting.
In previous versions you could get rid of the periodic "pay attention" nag by scrolling rather than having to gently tug on the wheel. My guess is after hundreds of hours of driving with older versions of FSD it is muscle memory. Or he doesn't know it no longer works.
This adaptive speed is dangerous. I live in Switzerland, where it gets stupid expensive to be 3 mph over the limit ... What are the speeding laws in your state? I guess, more relaxed.
Cops can pull over if you are above speed limit but almost never do so until you hit 5 above the limit and even then it is uncommon. Usually 8-10mph over is when you're at risk. Fines vary state to state but are usually less than 200 dollars unless you were driving dangerously on top of speeding. In my state even 25 mph over is only 155 dollars, but speeding that much forces you to go to court which is another 75 dollars unless the fee gets waived. The car usually speeds the way safe human drivers would, which most people in the USA could do all their life and never be pulled over. You are more likely to get pulled over for driving the speed limit when other people are speeding than you are for speeding.
Technologically it will soon come to near perfection, as long as you drive it on good maintained roads, and companion drivers obeying the traffic rules, but what about the legal perspective for driving completely autonomous! Who will be legally responsible for an accident, if the „car“ is forced to take a tough decision! The car, Tesla, the owner? This point will probably take years for decisions. Till that time the system can only assist as an stearing aid, not for autonomous driving.
Jeez, that was really impressive. Unfortunately, the government is short sighted, and even though this would save millions of lives, after just 1 fatality the govt will put a stop to it. They can't see the forest through the trees.
I was worried about this at first too but there have already been several accidents and there was no freak out from the agencies that monitor these self driving programs. I think there are several reasons why. First is that the people that work at the agencies see the carnage from crashes every day in a way almost none of us do. Its hard for any decent human being to not to want to improve that. Second, Tesla is collecting a mountain of data--hundreds of millions of miles--and that data clearly shows that the system is already safer than the average human driver. If they were to stop people from accessing a system that is proven to save lives they would be opening themselves up to legal actions. The last thing is that there are plenty of historical examples of a new technology having issues at first but going on to be a proven technology. The automobile itself replaced horses and buggies and there were people back them spewing gloom and doom about these death machines. Anti-lock brakes and air bags had their share of mishaps early on.
@@genephipps6421 True, I agree with everything you said. I should have started by saying I am a Tesla owner and huge proponent, I love my Model Y. I'm just looking at the presidential candidates, both hate Elon and Tesla. So the odds of FSD getting the kabosh by NHTSA, well lets just say if the government can mess with Tesla or Elon, they will take every opportunity to do so. I hope i'm just being wrongly pessimistic.
@@yeahbuddy92193911 good points. Elon doesn't help on this score either. I think end of the day that there is just so much money involved simple greed wins out as it always does.
Watch the very latest version of FSD drive in busy big cities: New York, Chicago, San Francisco. Watch what happens during busy rush hours, at night, or in the rain. Still lots of problems, lots of human interventions. Don't let FSD trick you, when it easily glides down an almost empty road in a rural area, in broad daylight.
@@DerekDavis213 There are limited or no videos of FSD 12.3+ in New York City or Chicago. So far only in California cities and the FSD 12 videos in California show it performing at a level far above v11. It sounds like you are trying to talk about a subject you know nothing about.
@@FriedChairs So you know about *every* FSD 12 video on RUclips? There are probably 30 or more. You have watched them all? And if so, are you calling those RUclips creators liars, when they report problems with the simple minded beta FSD software?
@@gregsutton2400 Most humans have years of experience driving, and they have large human brains and 3D stereo vision that was designed by God. A human can think and reason and instantly *adapt* to new conditions or strange situations. FSD can do none of those things.
Prepare to be very bored in the future, and by bored, I mean amazing FSD drives with no takeovers 😊
10:33 I think it slowed down for the bad road. Impressive!
Your detailed comments regarding how all this works is very well done.
This is becoming CRAZY GOOD. Wow. Can't wait to see in 3 months!
Watch FSD in a busy big city. It is not crazy good there!
Still lots of problems, lots of human interventions needed to avoid a *tragedy* .
@@DerekDavis213 Yea sure I could disable while in busy city center but then it still covers a lot of my driving :D
@@danypell2517 Please be careful when FSD is driving your car. It is still a primitive buggy system, even after almost 4 years of beta testing.
A human can think, and reason, and instantly adapt to new or unexpected situations. FSD cannot do that.
@@DerekDavis213 Humans suck at driving. Over a million of us die every year doing it. I’m guessing you are either shorting Tesla stock, have interest in one of its competitors, or you are in the transportation industry where vast numbers of jobs are made redundant by automated driving.
@@DerekDavis213FSD is literally designed to adapt to new and unexpected situations, which is why Perception is such an important part of the FSD suite
Waiting at the first crosswalk for the second crosswalk and that car to clear through - good stuff.
looking forward to watching more! $TSLA
Incredible. Can't wait for this to come to Europe and specifically Sweden.
Great progress, world class
I bought a used Model 3 today (first Tesla I've ever owned or even driven) just because of how good FSD is getting. Really impressive stuff. I'm stuck on 12.3 though. GIMME 12.3.2.1!
@13:51 where it waited for the people on the distant crossing was very impressive
I believe not in far future fsd can drive like its owner, like a “drive like me” option provided the driver has high safety score.
TOP JOB !
Wow very kool save the trees good job
Love to drive. Really looking forward to assisted driving on long trips
I have a 2024 MY and same fsd here in canada a couple days ago. The drives are amazing but it speeds way too fast on city streets 14 km over the sped limit. Here in BC the police are kinda ok with 10 over. 14 is a speeding ticket. I need the scroll wheel adjustment with auto speed setting. I am going to a park today and see if can maintain a slow speed. Very exciting times ahead.
Agree. I have the same issue in Ontario. Just allowing scroll wheel to tell car to slow down would be perfect.
13:21 13:44 beautiful
V12.3 was good and V12.3.2.1 is better. It adds auto park as well. I have been using V12.3 for several weeks on most of my drives and just got V12.3.2.1 yesterday. It finally stays to the right on unmarked roads. The auto speed is light years ahead of V11 where it just ran the speed limit and you had to ride the scroll wheel. So much better.
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good job
damn it's good
I drove a 2020 M3 loaner from the Tesla service center. I checked to see if it had FSD and it did. I put my destination in the nav and turned on FSD once on the freeway. It flawlessly got me 90% of the way there although it stayed behind a car going 10 under for too long. As we merged onto a different freeway, on an elevated ramp, it decided to phantom brake. Nope, wouldn't use it if it were free.
And what version of fsd was it?
I've watched a ton of v12 videos and there's been no phantom braking at all. It's worth remembering that v12 still uses V11 when on the highway.
Realize it is always improving. Two years ago mine would phantom brake as well (remote highways) now it phantom brakes never. So your “nope” will evolve as the program does.
Should you have disengaged to train FSD that you may get stuck behind someone turning left?
Very impressive, I want FSD on my old Model 3. Unfortunately, my hardware is 2.5, not capable to run the FSD.
You should be able to upgrade at Tesla service center
I can till you are long $TSLA., good luck buddy.
😍😍
I’m surprised I didn’t receive the email to trial FSD
I think it’s utter nonsense that those who are on version 2024.8.7 are not going to see v12 for many more months. For some reason there are two Tesla test teams that have two different versions of software and it’s random if you get the software track that has the FSD updates. To make matters worse we will not get the free month trial when fsd 12 is added to the software branch. Which makes this unfair to the customer base. 😢
This is what I expected 7 years ago when this was labelled "beta". Finally we are getting to the minimum acceptable capabilities. NOW the hard work will begin with starting to handle the more uncommon edge cases. Like Elon said, getting from 0 to 99% accuracy is as easy as getting from 99 to 99.99%. I'm still curious how this will handle rougher weather conditions. Snow. Rain. Sun right into the cameras. That will be interesting.
I'd say, wait for the probably not as good as expected q1 numbers, and then go all in 😀
During drive you often hit the left scroll button...what were you doing there?
In previous versions you could get rid of the periodic "pay attention" nag by scrolling rather than having to gently tug on the wheel. My guess is after hundreds of hours of driving with older versions of FSD it is muscle memory. Or he doesn't know it no longer works.
Say what you will about Elon, but what a brilliant product he had come up with
Iirc though FSD is illegal to use in the UK.....I could be wrong though
This adaptive speed is dangerous. I live in Switzerland, where it gets stupid expensive to be 3 mph over the limit ... What are the speeding laws in your state? I guess, more relaxed.
Cops can pull over if you are above speed limit but almost never do so until you hit 5 above the limit and even then it is uncommon. Usually 8-10mph over is when you're at risk. Fines vary state to state but are usually less than 200 dollars unless you were driving dangerously on top of speeding. In my state even 25 mph over is only 155 dollars, but speeding that much forces you to go to court which is another 75 dollars unless the fee gets waived.
The car usually speeds the way safe human drivers would, which most people in the USA could do all their life and never be pulled over.
You are more likely to get pulled over for driving the speed limit when other people are speeding than you are for speeding.
Switzerland is strict. US and Canada I usually do 8 kmh over
When it comes to your country it will have "Switzermode". 😁
@@rsamd You can already set the car to follow speed limit if you want. Most people just dont because that feels slow when we're all used to speeding.
How does FSD react to lollipop men?
Technologically it will soon come to near perfection, as long as you drive it on good maintained roads, and companion drivers obeying the traffic rules, but what about the legal perspective for driving completely autonomous! Who will be legally responsible for an accident, if the „car“ is forced to take a tough decision! The car, Tesla, the owner? This point will probably take years for decisions. Till that time the system can only assist as an stearing aid, not for autonomous driving.
👍👍👍🎁🚀
Jeez, that was really impressive. Unfortunately, the government is short sighted, and even though this would save millions of lives, after just 1 fatality the govt will put a stop to it. They can't see the forest through the trees.
I was worried about this at first too but there have already been several accidents and there was no freak out from the agencies that monitor these self driving programs. I think there are several reasons why. First is that the people that work at the agencies see the carnage from crashes every day in a way almost none of us do. Its hard for any decent human being to not to want to improve that.
Second, Tesla is collecting a mountain of data--hundreds of millions of miles--and that data clearly shows that the system is already safer than the average human driver. If they were to stop people from accessing a system that is proven to save lives they would be opening themselves up to legal actions.
The last thing is that there are plenty of historical examples of a new technology having issues at first but going on to be a proven technology. The automobile itself replaced horses and buggies and there were people back them spewing gloom and doom about these death machines. Anti-lock brakes and air bags had their share of mishaps early on.
@@genephipps6421 True, I agree with everything you said. I should have started by saying I am a Tesla owner and huge proponent, I love my Model Y. I'm just looking at the presidential candidates, both hate Elon and Tesla. So the odds of FSD getting the kabosh by NHTSA, well lets just say if the government can mess with Tesla or Elon, they will take every opportunity to do so. I hope i'm just being wrongly pessimistic.
@@yeahbuddy92193911 good points. Elon doesn't help on this score either. I think end of the day that there is just so much money involved simple greed wins out as it always does.
I subscribed....I have a channel as well.
More night videos
NOBODY ELSE is doing this!
Someone said opportunity?
getting hard to find problems
Watch the very latest version of FSD drive in busy big cities: New York, Chicago, San Francisco. Watch what happens during busy rush hours, at night, or in the rain.
Still lots of problems, lots of human interventions.
Don't let FSD trick you, when it easily glides down an almost empty road in a rural area, in broad daylight.
@@DerekDavis213 There are limited or no videos of FSD 12.3+ in New York City or Chicago. So far only in California cities and the FSD 12 videos in California show it performing at a level far above v11. It sounds like you are trying to talk about a subject you know nothing about.
@@FriedChairs So you know about *every* FSD 12 video on RUclips? There are probably 30 or more. You have watched them all?
And if so, are you calling those RUclips creators liars, when they report problems with the simple minded beta FSD software?
@@DerekDavis213 when humans have trouble driving too
@@gregsutton2400 Most humans have years of experience driving, and they have large human brains and 3D stereo vision that was designed by God. A human can think and reason and instantly *adapt* to new conditions or strange situations.
FSD can do none of those things.
thx - german Drivers look jealously at America
This sucks so bad