On these later 6.5s, the electric lift pump only runs when the oil pressure switch is closed. So without oil pressure, the fuel pump does not run. The best way to prime them is to jump the fuel pump relay. Also, the dual fuel tanks are kind of an issue. The rear tank pumps into the front take and if the sending units don't work, neither does the tank balancing system. Probably does need a fuel filter. I don't know if that has the computer controlled vacuum valve for the turbo waste gate, but that is also a frequent issue with these.
Thanks for the info! Fortunately we had plenty of oil pressure and one of the tank has already been removed. My guess is fuel filter and lift pump issues 🤘
@@JunkyardDigs You can take a vacuum/fuel pressure gauge and stick the hose right over the bleed nipple on the top of the fuel filter and check fuel pressure while running (open the bleeder obviously). I believe you can also do the same at the other bleed port in front of the injection pump. I don't know if that engine is all mechanical or if it has the computer controlled delivery valves. Those can be a nightmare when they don't work.
Being a 6.5 guy through and through this is really frustrating for me to watch. Not that y'all are doing anything wrong(there's a learning curve for everything, especially a 6.5 it seems) but just because I WANT to be there! I live for getting these old 6.5s up and going again. You won't pull a house with them, though with some tuning they can be woken up a bit. However if you get one really dialed in you can get low to mid twenties for mpg's with them. My 97 would routinely get 22/23 driving from Southwest Nebraska to Northeast Wyoming every couple of weeks for work. Like I said you couldn't pull a house but you'll get economy if you work with them. They were even marketed to the public by GM as an economy diesel before a pulling diesel. Enjoy it because they're fun to run around in and they've got a super unique engine sound and exhaust note.
Have a 1994 custom Texas edition suburban with the 6.5 once I did the manual wastegate and a great lift pump and a few other mods including the whippie wheel on my turbo mine drives amazing and gets about 22-23 also driving
I have a nice 98. Just finished a 6" lift and a crap ton of maintenance. These babies will run strong all day long. Mine has been dependable for years. Starts right up in -40 not plugged in. I laughed when he said you need to pull the cab to replace the turbo 😂🤣😂🤣
Agree on the super unique engine sound. You can tell that sound apart from far away. I have a 89 suburban with NA 6.5 that was put in place of a 6.2. They are an excellent economy engine. The design of the 6.x is almost 40 years old and as far as I can tell the fuel economy has still not been surpassed by any modern designs.
I have some problems with mine. It has sit for over 2 years. I had a baby and life went crazy. Could I ask you some questions and help trying to figure out what is wrong with it.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Just giver !!!! Just as suspected carbon on the valves stuff it in the ketchup it will work . Works for me. Redliner for a good time !
Yeah a good pocket knife is a standard part of our kit for us old dudes. My knife started out with a nice matte black finish and over the last 14 years has been butt polished to a shiny bare metal.
You did GOOD! That has a hydraulic lift Gate... a BIG hydraulic lift gate... and an IMT Crane!!! That truck just made your field revivals WAY easier. Good Luck man.
That’s a cool one, I enjoyed the change up. Your dad really looks at home behind the wheel of that old truck. $1k is a steal too, the service deck alone is with more then that!
What they said... PMDs hate heat, mechanical pumps are more reliable, balancers are known to break cranks when they go bad. Heath Diesel is a great resource for 6.5s
First off, I'm not an authority, but anyone who wants to know, the 6.5 won't compare to a Duramax or Cummins but they weren't designed to compete with a Duramax or Cummins or a powerstroke for that matter. They were marketed as an economy diesel that you could still kind of pull with, but not pull a house with. With some due diligence a 6.5 will get low twenties for mileage, I know because I did it with a 97 GMC. Still have the truck and still love it. Don't let anyone tell you they're "junk" because they're not, they're just misunderstood and not designed to be turned up and build 500hp at the drop of a hat. The first thing I suggest any new 6.5 owner should do is go around and CLEAN all the grounds and battery connections to a shining finish all the way down to the connections on the starter solenoid then deal with battery terminal spray or coat with dialectric grease. Also, speaking of the starter, make sure the front bracket is in place on the starter or you're asking for a cracked block at the starter mount bolt holes. This will help more than you can imagine. The main limiting factor of the design is the indirect injection or idi system. No the injection pump is NORMALLY not the culprit and no the injection pump is not junk. It's the same ip that John Deere has used on many many tractors over the years. Normally the issue is the oil pressure switch or the lift pump or both depending on the year. A lift pump running on its own circuit upgrade and an oil pressure switch extension are great starting points for anyone with a new to them 6.5. A canister style fuel filter upgrade is nice after that. There are several upgrades that can be done to wake them up. Hx35 and hx40 turbos or a Quadstar tuning super 60, injectors with greater pop pressure and tuned computers or chips from Heath or Kennedy diesel are also great. I've gone on too long but I just love these old trucks. Also, like I said, I'm not trying to sound like an authority on the subject, just relaying some knowledge I've gained over the years. I've bought two Duramax trucks since buying my 6.5 but still kept the old 6.5 for a daily because that was still one of the most reliable vehicles I've ever owned.
I really like your uncle. And I love hearing stories from the generation before ours. That is the main reason I hunt, whole family is there, all the ol timers, I'm 34 now and I still sit and listen like a kid.
One of the reasons I hate the facelift gmt400s. Cheapass plastic everywhere that usually cracks, ac seems pretty crappy in every one I've been in, stupid light to tell you your lights are off? That looks like a bright indicator? Why?? And less comfortable seats? With tiny little armrests??? Ugh.
I had a GMC with that body / interior style. That's what the light indicated on mine. Engaging the parking break will also shut off the daytime running lights and indicator. Also had the nv4500 on it. Great transmission. You have almost be stopped though to get it into first gear. But. It's more of a bulldog gear.
For future reference. In the 88-98 chevy and gmc trucks their is a large black relay fuse under the steering wheel. Remove it. Thats the door chime fuse. It wont hurt anything .
Some time ago I bought a 1952 Studebaker 3 ton cab and chassis. It has 37,000 original miles as an airport fuel tanker. The tank and pump had been removed from it. It is a perfect running, rust free, absolutely cherry truck. A few years later a friend gave me a huge service bed from a 1984 Ford 1 ton tire repair truck. Had I custom ordered a bed for the Studebaker it couldn't have fit better. I rigged a hydraulic pump from the PTO to supply the lift gate (originally an electric pump). The bed was equipped with 2 large air tanks and was nicely plumbed for air tools. With tool storage galore I now have the perfect truck to go and "Bring 'em back alive". Give that truck a good service and through tidy and it just might be your best new tool.
I know your videos lag by weeks or even months, but the first thing you need to do is relocate the PMD. It's the fuel pump module on the side of the pump. I had a 6.5 for a time and decided it was best to get rid of it before it left me stranded again. Those modules sit on the pump in a valley in the middle of the engine .they are constantly heat soaked and GM expected the fuel in the pump to keep it cool. the modules tend to come loose from the pump , so the cooling effect fails. What most people do is get a harness extension and put the module in front of the radiator on a heat sink to keep it cool. It also makes it very easy to swap out if you go down the road and it fails. it usually fails without warning ,so you have a 10k truck going down the street and almost impossible to stop. Here is one tread on relocating it. There are TONS of them on the net. Most people say you have to take the manifold off to get at that module. I was able to take mine off without touching the manifold. Three of the screws( torx) can be removed. The forth is a bitch. I had to weld up a tip of a torx to a metal piece at 90 degrees to get it out. you can also just disconnect the harness from that module , put an extension and connect it to a new one in front of the radiator and avoid all that work. www.dieselhub.com/maintenance/6.5-diesel-pmd-relocation.html You also learn eventually learn that the truck is under powered with that engine and climbing long hills with shoot the temp. up quickly. Good luck with that dog .
The 86-92 ford f150s has the exact same problem with the ignition control module, it was mounted right on the distributor on the engine valley, it would get too hot and leave you stranded time and again
I deal with allot of diesels in my day to day. Replace the fuel filter, prefill it before you reinstall it if you can, dump 2 cans of something like seafoam or any decent fuel additive that breaks up water. After that drive it HARD for a while. Water in the fuel is hell on diesels and sitting with a near empty tank isn't very good, but diesel engines are extremely robust. Lastly I spotted a plug dangling out of the grill, meaning you have a block heater, plug that in at least 30 minutes to an hour before you start it or just leave it plugged in all the time, makes them start allot easier. Leaving the crane in the truck would probably be helpful in future revivals, so you might consider leaving it in the truck. Good luck 👍
Haven't started mine in over 1 year. '97 K3500 w/ 6" lift. Gonna try tomorrow... maybe...hate to think how much work it's gonna take. Done this before, fun watching!!!
Man, if that'd been a gasoline engine, y'all would've spent two hours replacing the entire ignition system that the squirrel would've chewed to pieces. LOL!
I’m somewhat new to diesel too. Since getting my first one nearly two years ago I haven’t wanted a gas vehicle. Happy know you were able to get it primed and back up and running. I’d love to get my hands on a diesel truck that cheap too. Great buy on your part.
@@paisleyprince5280 From my experience with these engines, if the glow plugs don't work they will never ever ever ever ever start. At least one plug has too be working, and from the way it started that seems to be the case. Tech tip. If you ever want to start a diesel and your plugs are dead, bust out a bernzomatic torch and heat up the heads. Or light a campfire under the block.
Diesels, gotta love em. I got my 7.3 from a field for a good price. Threw two batteries in her & started right up. $2000 later I’ve put some now fuel line on it, new IPR, valve cover gaskets, ICP, EBP, & a new flywheel & starter. Fresh bucket seats, carpet, & she’s running. I also did an exhaust delete @ the down pipe, where it goes to the cat. Put a 3.55 GR in it & i’m getting 18-25mpg, & I love it.
93 powerstroke was one one of my favorite diesels ive owned, worked it hard and the truck started falling apart. Engine still ran strong with 400k. Own a 24v now and wouldn't go back though.
I'm not sure about Chevy but my '99 Ford with the ZF5 speed absolutely refuses to go into first unless you're going slow enough. I believe that's that just how those transmissions work.
My 99 V-10 250 was like that. Those ZF5s aren’t anything but tough and slow. Dont force it into anything less than 2nd on a downshift. 1st is useless unless your pulling out with a heavy load.
@@DanielThomason1 I don't even bother shifting into 2nd when I'm taking a slow turn. Just lug the piss out of it in 3rd and she'll come right out of it.
As an owner of a P 400 6.5L turbo diesel engine which is a newer version of this engine that you have in this pick up I love these engines. Nothing wrong with them. If you take care of them word of warning though do not use starting fluid on these engines as it has a tendency to blow head gaskets when you do starting fluid on these engines is a death sentence anyway in the future if you have questions about these engines or need parts for them, quad star diesel has a lot of parts for them as well as Leroy Diesel he has a lot of parts for these engines as well any questions call them like I said I have the P 400 in my C3 500 four-door long bed Dooley. and it’s one hell of a running engine runs great lots of power in that engine. That looks like a fantastic truck. Great find keep up the good work love watching your shows drive carefully and don’t use the Ether Bunny on that pick up.
Yeah, the engine was running like it was fuel starved, also didn't help that the turbo is also probably shot to hell. I've driven old 6L turbo diesel trucks and although they dont have the acceleration of gas cars, they pack a mean punch behind the pedal and im not seeing this here
The black cap on top of the filter housing is the air bleeder. The T handle valve that he opened comes off of the water separator. If you're starting a diesel that has been sitting, you should drain the fuel, replace fuel filters, drain water separator, add new fuel, and bleed the system. Crack the injection lines at the injectors and crank until you see fuel at all injectors. Close the lines and it should start if you have good glow plugs and compression.
Jeff Peterson they probably do have diesel in tanks on the farm also everybody most likely has grain and stock trucks including grain elevators and sale barns. It’s not just the farmers that use diesel it’s all the people and businesses that support farming. Like the business that drove this tire truck for instance.
Diesels are like gas, just no ignition system. And I definitely see a revival rescue truck. Air, lift, tool storage, man its a rolling shop! Good grab.
I just bought a 1993 GM 6.5 TD, 100km on motor 230 km truck stored inside. beautiful truck. I also have another 1993 chevy 6.5 standard 4wheel drive am rebuilding it as it is the work truck around the farm and the other is it's replacement for time being. Easy to work these trucks and a decent ride even in the one ton single wheel 4x4.
Biggest piece of crap engine I've ever owned. It's cool but not worth it's weight in scrap. It's amazing that once you own one you learn everything that you guys were doing real quick. It did feel real good when I heard it start though. She's been taken care of. I expected it to give a lot more problems. All she needed was fuel. And everything seems to work. That bed alone is worth double what you paid. That transmission alone is worth a lot. But the constant stumbling and power loss issues suck. Probably needs an injection pump.
I wouldn't say junk. Gutless for sure. If you remote mount the PMD 90% of your stumbling and rough running issues will go away. They were never a heavy duty engine. They will not hang with the Cummins and Powerstrokes, they were never designed to. At the time GM still recommended the 7.4 gas in heavy duty trucks.
RuralRider yeah you're right. I guess I was expecting too much from mine and have a sour taste after the injection pump went out so early (less than 200,000 miles) but again, like you said, it's not and never will be a Duramax, powerstorke or Cummins. It did have character that's for sure haha. And the sound made me smile. It's "adequate“ for most jobs when running right. It did get good mileage too for a big full size truck. I did all that good stuff to it, big lift pump, PMD relocated, but it had a hard life.
@@ruralrider9961 true. GMs tow ratings for the Surburban 2500 back in that day was always 10K for 454 gas & 7500 for 6.5TD even after the 1996 uprating to 430 ft/lbs. I believe the 3500 pickups were 18.5K 454 & something like 12.5K for 6.5TD. They just wouldn't handle the pressure & would always run warm if pushed. Back in 1999 I had a '95 2500 that was converted to '96-up cooling specs, custom built DB2 pump (no more electronics), Phazer gear drive, 18:1 coated marine pistons, Peninsular Diesel custom turbo, hi-flow injectors, exhaust, the works! Engine dynoed at 300hp/540ft/lbs. On paper a real hot rod for the time. And you know what? A bone stock 1st gen PSD would run door handle to door handle with it & always just felt stronger--torque always came on much quicker. I thought I was doing a good thing but never was happy with my truck for what I had spent. Ended up selling it to a guy in Norway who paid for the shipping & everything (evidently 6.5s are in high demand there). So I can vouch for the gutless claim even after spending over 10K on one.
thats the most valuable rig you bought to date. if obviously needs fuel system work, injectors might be clugged up on it but good thing its a all mechanical diesel they're cheap to buy.
Well there was the 5.7 diesel. The 6.2 and the 6.5 which the 6.2 and 6.5 were technically made by Detroit diesel a division of GM. And Detroit had many years of experience in diesels.
This is the perfect truck for when you go deep in the woods to save these cars. Load up with spare parts, gas cans, and enough power to tow stuff out. Perfect truck for the channel.
You guys got super super lucky ! Im on my second injection pump and ive got acollection of pmds ! Mine wontbeven attempt to start still with a brand new pump ! Only have 100k miles on the truck glow plugs work fine injectors have fuel she wont start !
6.5's are an acquired taste. I love my 97 dually. They're not a powerhouse or a race car by any means. But it'll pull whatever you want "slowly" all day long!
On the 6.5 the fuel pump is turned on by the oil pressure switch, so not hearing the pump is normal. There is a PMD that is located on the side of the injection pump if it has not been re located. If it is on the side of the injection pump then move it somewhere that gets lots of air flow, a lot of people put them in the front bumper, you can get an extend harness from quadstartuning.com Don’t push them past 10lbs of boost on the stock GM-8 turbo. If you want more boost then go over to quadstar and get a super 60 and a upper intake manifold. I’ve owned and built many of these trucks.... too many of them.
Open the little valve with the crossbar at the front of the motor. Leave on the little hose and pump it into an empty can. Open up the fuse and relay box and pull the lift pump relay. Jump together the terminals that correspond to 30 and 87 on the relay, and you can use the lift pump to pump the whole tank dry if you want to. Once the little tube isn't sputtering air, you're golden. Close it up. Important: **These injection pumps HATE air in them.** That is why you had such a hard time turning it over. The lift pump is mounted down along the frame. The injection pump is basically the diesel equivalent of a carb, mounted on top of the motor. Got 250,000 miles on mine, still runs like a top.
Since yer unfamiliar with em, I'll tell ya that a common failure point on 6.5s is the Stanadyne fuel injection module, on the drivers side inner fender. And I was told they're about 400 bucks. I was also told u should keep a spare in the glovebox!
Of all the stuff in the lot that old diesel makes the most sense to fully repair and bring up to snuff. With everything else you do revivals on having a vehicle like that with tool storage and a hoist would make your revivals so much easier in so many ways. Hell just installing a solid air compressor in that would help with all the animal nests cob webs flats etc.
Diesel engines are very simple and easy to start, especially the older ones without all the computer garbage. They are really efficient, but the fuel they save is more expensive than gasoline, so you don't save a lot. There's plenty of information out there on what makes them tick, your buddy Rich at Deboss Garage has some really good videos. You did good.
Hey, your uncle's cool. You should bring him along more often.
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Bring the unkel not the girlfriend
Billy Mettlen nah bring them both, mook is funny
Worked with you at the tree farm when I was maybe 14 or 15, glad to see your doing well and love your videos man.
It's official, Uncle Tom is a hit!
Nice truck in your profile picture. I have a 67 f100 and 78 f350 lariat. Love those old trucks.
Luke K Ray except the idi
I love your 77
You should make that your tow rig and rescue rig. Load the back up with tools and stuff for mobile revivals
Exactly what I was thinking would be perfect for your tools and u bring that truck whenever your gunna go work on a car/truck
Would be great to bring on Power Tour or similar.
It even has onboard air and I am betting hookups for jump starts
Seriously. Its a mobile mechanic truck already. Just delete phone numbers and paint "not for hire" on it where the DOT number usually goes.
@@workingcountry1776 ya but I dont think a single tool on that truck is workable.
Standing in the middle of a grain bin scooping beans and taking a break watching this. 👍👍
Oddly enough, I'd like to see more of this truck. service trucks are awesome with all their extra compartments, and extra little add ons!
On these later 6.5s, the electric lift pump only runs when the oil pressure switch is closed. So without oil pressure, the fuel pump does not run. The best way to prime them is to jump the fuel pump relay. Also, the dual fuel tanks are kind of an issue. The rear tank pumps into the front take and if the sending units don't work, neither does the tank balancing system. Probably does need a fuel filter. I don't know if that has the computer controlled vacuum valve for the turbo waste gate, but that is also a frequent issue with these.
Thanks for the info! Fortunately we had plenty of oil pressure and one of the tank has already been removed. My guess is fuel filter and lift pump issues 🤘
@@JunkyardDigs You can take a vacuum/fuel pressure gauge and stick the hose right over the bleed nipple on the top of the fuel filter and check fuel pressure while running (open the bleeder obviously). I believe you can also do the same at the other bleed port in front of the injection pump. I don't know if that engine is all mechanical or if it has the computer controlled delivery valves. Those can be a nightmare when they don't work.
Being a 6.5 guy through and through this is really frustrating for me to watch. Not that y'all are doing anything wrong(there's a learning curve for everything, especially a 6.5 it seems) but just because I WANT to be there! I live for getting these old 6.5s up and going again.
You won't pull a house with them, though with some tuning they can be woken up a bit. However if you get one really dialed in you can get low to mid twenties for mpg's with them. My 97 would routinely get 22/23 driving from Southwest Nebraska to Northeast Wyoming every couple of weeks for work. Like I said you couldn't pull a house but you'll get economy if you work with them. They were even marketed to the public by GM as an economy diesel before a pulling diesel. Enjoy it because they're fun to run around in and they've got a super unique engine sound and exhaust note.
Have a 1994 custom Texas edition suburban with the 6.5 once I did the manual wastegate and a great lift pump and a few other mods including the whippie wheel on my turbo mine drives amazing and gets about 22-23 also driving
I have a nice 98. Just finished a 6" lift and a crap ton of maintenance. These babies will run strong all day long. Mine has been dependable for years. Starts right up in -40 not plugged in. I laughed when he said you need to pull the cab to replace the turbo 😂🤣😂🤣
Agree on the super unique engine sound. You can tell that sound apart from far away. I have a 89 suburban with NA 6.5 that was put in place of a 6.2. They are an excellent economy engine. The design of the 6.x is almost 40 years old and as far as I can tell the fuel economy has still not been surpassed by any modern designs.
I have some problems with mine. It has sit for over 2 years. I had a baby and life went crazy. Could I ask you some questions and help trying to figure out what is wrong with it.
brandon anderson sure my man. Ask away. No guarantees because it's tough to diagnose over the internet but it's worth a try!
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I was waiting for an "well I'll be diped" lol
"Once i gave it about 900 liters of go go juice, things got real interesting!"
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The problem is you didn't give her any of Cosby's consent in a can. Then send her right to the ketchup. MINT!!!
Just look at that chooch
That thing needs some consent.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Just giver !!!! Just as suspected carbon on the valves stuff it in the ketchup it will work . Works for me. Redliner for a good time !
👌minty!!
InYuco Katan She’s not the IDI though 65 is will go boom boom
Green Light indicator is for daytime running lights it will turn off when you turn on the headlights
This channel and VGG have been getting me thru quarantine! And Mook is my favorite Daughter! Lol
Love how the greybeard just whips out the pocket knife. Just natural.
Wasn't afraid to put that starter to work either
Yea old man was COOKIN that poor starter lol
Yeah a good pocket knife is a standard part of our kit for us old dudes. My knife started out with a nice matte black finish and over the last 14 years has been butt polished to a shiny bare metal.
For a guy who didn't know anything about diesel, you did a good job on the truck! Learning leads to knowledge, knowledge is key
Y'all need a hat that just says "She'll Run!"
Also gotta love the older diesels, so much simpler than the new DEF crap.
You did GOOD! That has a hydraulic lift Gate... a BIG hydraulic lift gate... and an IMT Crane!!! That truck just made your field revivals WAY easier. Good Luck man.
"Are you ready for action?"
*Action is coming*
More diesels please. Cool uncle.
I'm just north of you and have a 95 6.5. I've learned alot on the 6.5 groups and have a few extra parts laying around
Great deal. Change filters, injectors, fix seat, clean up box and I bet you could get $7500 or more. Great find
This could be the ultimate revival vehicle, it'll hold more then all the tools you could ever need
That’s a cool one, I enjoyed the change up. Your dad really looks at home behind the wheel of that old truck. $1k is a steal too, the service deck alone is with more then that!
Ah that's me uncle
Junkyard Digs Oh sorry... I was close lol! Still he’s having fun!
Keep an extra PmD and a oil pressure switch. You will be stranded otherwise eventually. 😁
I did a pmd on mine after a bunch of stalling i heard the harmonic balancer could go mostly rust and corrosion get at my 6.5td
Always got mine with me 😂
You beat me to it Chris edge, of course that one being 5 speed the best thing to do is swap in an earlier full mechanical injection pump.
Or just do a pmd relocation and not have to worry about it 🤷♂️
What they said... PMDs hate heat, mechanical pumps are more reliable, balancers are known to break cranks when they go bad. Heath Diesel is a great resource for 6.5s
First off, I'm not an authority, but anyone who wants to know, the 6.5 won't compare to a Duramax or Cummins but they weren't designed to compete with a Duramax or Cummins or a powerstroke for that matter. They were marketed as an economy diesel that you could still kind of pull with, but not pull a house with. With some due diligence a 6.5 will get low twenties for mileage, I know because I did it with a 97 GMC. Still have the truck and still love it. Don't let anyone tell you they're "junk" because they're not, they're just misunderstood and not designed to be turned up and build 500hp at the drop of a hat.
The first thing I suggest any new 6.5 owner should do is go around and CLEAN all the grounds and battery connections to a shining finish all the way down to the connections on the starter solenoid then deal with battery terminal spray or coat with dialectric grease. Also, speaking of the starter, make sure the front bracket is in place on the starter or you're asking for a cracked block at the starter mount bolt holes. This will help more than you can imagine.
The main limiting factor of the design is the indirect injection or idi system. No the injection pump is NORMALLY not the culprit and no the injection pump is not junk. It's the same ip that John Deere has used on many many tractors over the years. Normally the issue is the oil pressure switch or the lift pump or both depending on the year. A lift pump running on its own circuit upgrade and an oil pressure switch extension are great starting points for anyone with a new to them 6.5. A canister style fuel filter upgrade is nice after that.
There are several upgrades that can be done to wake them up. Hx35 and hx40 turbos or a Quadstar tuning super 60, injectors with greater pop pressure and tuned computers or chips from Heath or Kennedy diesel are also great.
I've gone on too long but I just love these old trucks. Also, like I said, I'm not trying to sound like an authority on the subject, just relaying some knowledge I've gained over the years. I've bought two Duramax trucks since buying my 6.5 but still kept the old 6.5 for a daily because that was still one of the most reliable vehicles I've ever owned.
Junkyard Mom is right. This kid needs to get his own acreage. Cool episode, Kevin.
A big acreage!
I love your channel and people who talk trash to you are just jealous that you can find awesome car and trucks. Keep of the great job.
Did you see how quick Pops was with that knife? Mercy. Don't sneak up on him.
Then proceed to cut open an apple with the same blade and eat it.
I was gonna say the same thing. He was in full ninja mode
I really like your uncle. And I love hearing stories from the generation before ours. That is the main reason I hunt, whole family is there, all the ol timers, I'm 34 now and I still sit and listen like a kid.
Your uncle was having a good time!
Love that you got your Uncle involved. Going through all your posts. Good score for $1000. In Australia, $100 gets you sweet FA.
7:25 I think that light indicator is to show the daytime running lights are on
One of the reasons I hate the facelift gmt400s. Cheapass plastic everywhere that usually cracks, ac seems pretty crappy in every one I've been in, stupid light to tell you your lights are off? That looks like a bright indicator? Why?? And less comfortable seats? With tiny little armrests??? Ugh.
I had a GMC with that body / interior style. That's what the light indicated on mine. Engaging the parking break will also shut off the daytime running lights and indicator.
Also had the nv4500 on it. Great transmission. You have almost be stopped though to get it into first gear. But. It's more of a bulldog gear.
Needs a full bottle of injector cleaner in the fuel and let it idle for 30-60 minutes. At idle you can't hurt it. Then a new fuel filter. Good as new.
Would love to see this thing getting restored to a better state!
Do you mean there is a better state than Iowa??!?
For future reference. In the 88-98 chevy and gmc trucks their is a large black relay fuse under the steering wheel. Remove it. Thats the door chime fuse. It wont hurt anything .
I was wondering if there was a way to disable as I watched. Thanks!
Nice Deal. Especially for the five speed. You can part this out and easily make 5x the money spent. Looks clean for an Iowa rig.
Some time ago I bought a 1952 Studebaker 3 ton cab and chassis. It has 37,000 original miles as an airport fuel tanker. The tank and pump had been removed from it. It is a perfect running, rust free, absolutely cherry truck. A few years later a friend gave me a huge service bed from a 1984 Ford 1 ton tire repair truck. Had I custom ordered a bed for the Studebaker it couldn't have fit better. I rigged a hydraulic pump from the PTO to supply the lift gate (originally an electric pump). The bed was equipped with 2 large air tanks and was nicely plumbed for air tools. With tool storage galore I now have the perfect truck to go and "Bring 'em back alive". Give that truck a good service and through tidy and it just might be your best new tool.
Your Uncle is a cool guy!
Just a little turbo work and a filter change she will be good as new!
That big laugh from Uncle Tom is the best. 👏👏👏
Yes it is!!!! I have always loved your Dad's laugh!!
Always love the sound of those particular starters! Just that GM starter sound! And of course the sound of a 6.5!
God bless the 6.5, a minty engine
I noticed a buell hoodie... love my buell bikes.
I know your videos lag by weeks or even months, but the first thing you need to do is relocate the PMD. It's the fuel pump module on the side of the pump. I had a 6.5 for a time and decided it was best to get rid of it before it left me stranded again. Those modules sit on the pump in a valley in the middle of the engine .they are constantly heat soaked and GM expected the fuel in the pump to keep it cool. the modules tend to come loose from the pump , so the cooling effect fails. What most people do is get a harness extension and put the module in front of the radiator on a heat sink to keep it cool. It also makes it very easy to swap out if you go down the road and it fails. it usually fails without warning ,so you have a 10k truck going down the street and almost impossible to stop. Here is one tread on relocating it. There are TONS of them on the net. Most people say you have to take the manifold off to get at that module. I was able to take mine off without touching the manifold. Three of the screws( torx) can be removed. The forth is a bitch. I had to weld up a tip of a torx to a metal piece at 90 degrees to get it out. you can also just disconnect the harness from that module , put an extension and connect it to a new one in front of the radiator and avoid all that work.
www.dieselhub.com/maintenance/6.5-diesel-pmd-relocation.html
You also learn eventually learn that the truck is under powered with that engine and climbing long hills with shoot the temp. up quickly. Good luck with that dog .
The 86-92 ford f150s has the exact same problem with the ignition control module, it was mounted right on the distributor on the engine valley, it would get too hot and leave you stranded time and again
I deal with allot of diesels in my day to day. Replace the fuel filter, prefill it before you reinstall it if you can, dump 2 cans of something like seafoam or any decent fuel additive that breaks up water. After that drive it HARD for a while. Water in the fuel is hell on diesels and sitting with a near empty tank isn't very good, but diesel engines are extremely robust. Lastly I spotted a plug dangling out of the grill, meaning you have a block heater, plug that in at least 30 minutes to an hour before you start it or just leave it plugged in all the time, makes them start allot easier. Leaving the crane in the truck would probably be helpful in future revivals, so you might consider leaving it in the truck. Good luck 👍
Gotta do a walk around with it. Looks like there’s a bunch of neat mods that have been done on it.
Haven't started mine in over 1 year. '97 K3500 w/ 6" lift. Gonna try tomorrow... maybe...hate to think how much work it's gonna take. Done this before, fun watching!!!
I love the 6.5l... and I would really like a 4×4 crew cab Version of this NARROW Dually.... Wish I could find one
Kevin. Please include your uncle much more often
Lots of Wisdom and he enjoys working as a Team! Good Choice
Valuable rig - can’t wait to see what you sale it for.
If it was for sell, how much?
3500🤔
Junkyard Digs not a bad price actually
should have a air compressor and blew the leaves out of the engine
@@JunkyardDigs Is it a 4x4?
@@nathandube1685 the 90’s chevy 3500hd never came from factory with 4x4 the non hd 3500 could
Good episode! Thanks
The indicator sounds like it has day time running lights, yes, when you turn the switch on, the day time lights turn off and you go to main lights.
YEAHHH THESE CARS ARE DE BEST
Man, if that'd been a gasoline engine, y'all would've spent two hours replacing the entire ignition system that the squirrel would've chewed to pieces. LOL!
Great truck, perfect for the sort of shenanigans you guys get up to. The crane is a real bonus.
Cool Uncle!
Changing all the fluids and filters is a good place to start 😎👍, and you get a nice little rig. It's got storage, power lift-gate, and a picker.
You know, a guy can appreciate that cap you got on there.
Love the crown Vic in the background of the final shot!
"Why do we need that?"
What my mom says every time I bring something new home.
I’m somewhat new to diesel too. Since getting my first one nearly two years ago I haven’t wanted a gas vehicle. Happy know you were able to get it primed and back up and running. I’d love to get my hands on a diesel truck that cheap too. Great buy on your part.
You only need “Cosby’s consent in a can”
I was thinking the same thing. Been watching too much Zip Ties N Bias Plies. LOL!!
The_ Mysterious_Gamer I thought you were never supposed to put cosby in a can in a 6.2 or 6.5.
Starting fluid in any capacity on these old 6.2/6.5 Detroit diesels is incredibly bad for the heads
@@spencercastle8638 you're assuming the glow plugs are still working
@@paisleyprince5280 From my experience with these engines, if the glow plugs don't work they will never ever ever ever ever start. At least one plug has too be working, and from the way it started that seems to be the case.
Tech tip. If you ever want to start a diesel and your plugs are dead, bust out a bernzomatic torch and heat up the heads. Or light a campfire under the block.
Diesels, gotta love em. I got my 7.3 from a field for a good price. Threw two batteries in her & started right up.
$2000 later I’ve put some now fuel line on it, new IPR, valve cover gaskets, ICP, EBP, & a new flywheel & starter.
Fresh bucket seats, carpet, & she’s running.
I also did an exhaust delete @ the down pipe, where it goes to the cat.
Put a 3.55 GR in it & i’m getting 18-25mpg, & I love it.
93 powerstroke was one one of my favorite diesels ive owned, worked it hard and the truck started falling apart. Engine still ran strong with 400k. Own a 24v now and wouldn't go back though.
I'm not sure about Chevy but my '99 Ford with the ZF5 speed absolutely refuses to go into first unless you're going slow enough. I believe that's that just how those transmissions work.
I think 1st is granny low
@@mountain177 not on the zf5
My 99 V-10 250 was like that. Those ZF5s aren’t anything but tough and slow. Dont force it into anything less than 2nd on a downshift. 1st is useless unless your pulling out with a heavy load.
@@DanielThomason1 I don't even bother shifting into 2nd when I'm taking a slow turn. Just lug the piss out of it in 3rd and she'll come right out of it.
As an owner of a P 400 6.5L turbo diesel engine which is a newer version of this engine that you have in this pick up I love these engines. Nothing wrong with them. If you take care of them word of warning though do not use starting fluid on these engines as it has a tendency to blow head gaskets when you do starting fluid on these engines is a death sentence anyway in the future if you have questions about these engines or need parts for them, quad star diesel has a lot of parts for them as well as Leroy Diesel he has a lot of parts for these engines as well any questions call them like I said I have the P 400 in my C3 500 four-door long bed Dooley. and it’s one hell of a running engine runs great lots of power in that engine. That looks like a fantastic truck. Great find keep up the good work love watching your shows drive carefully and don’t use the Ether Bunny on that pick up.
You need to get hold of that Jeep that was sitting in the background there.
KrazyIvanUSA , damn right
You guys have way too much fun...
Step out into an area you have minimal experience that's how you learn enjoy 😊
Cool watching you dudes do what ya do... Always interested in watching how you get them old cars going.
I'd replace the fuel pump that's under the driver's side door on the frame.
Yeah, the engine was running like it was fuel starved, also didn't help that the turbo is also probably shot to hell. I've driven old 6L turbo diesel trucks and although they dont have the acceleration of gas cars, they pack a mean punch behind the pedal and im not seeing this here
@@MrMarcost2 how do the 6.5s compare to a Duramax or Cummins?
If it's a Chevy truck it's just a fuel Filter
DIESELADDICT66 6.5s make no power and are junk lol
I went from a 6.5 to a 12v Cummins. Absolutely no comparison. 6.5 is a light duty diesel engine, very weak. 12V is a medium duty engine
Wow, nice rig! Service trucks come in handy reviving old iron. 🤘😁
Gosh I'd forgotten how loud Diesel engines are standing next to 'em!
Grew up near Belmond. That truck looks so familiar.
That's the one!
is it just me or at 10:48 when the guy says you have fuel it looked more like water the way it was dripping.
I thought that! Way too thin to be diesel. Bet there's water contamination.
Shouldn't there be a water filter also as it's a diesel
The black cap on top of the filter housing is the air bleeder. The T handle valve that he opened comes off of the water separator. If you're starting a diesel that has been sitting, you should drain the fuel, replace fuel filters, drain water separator, add new fuel, and bleed the system. Crack the injection lines at the injectors and crank until you see fuel at all injectors. Close the lines and it should start if you have good glow plugs and compression.
uncle was awesome. wish i had an uncle like that around. subbed, love the videos.
You’re in the middle of farm country and there’s 1 gas station with diesel? COME ON MAN!
Betchya all the farmers have on-site storage tanks, and have the fuel delivered.
Who drives their combine into town for a top-off?😁
Jeff Peterson they probably do have diesel in tanks on the farm also everybody most likely has grain and stock trucks including grain elevators and sale barns. It’s not just the farmers that use diesel it’s all the people and businesses that support farming. Like the business that drove this tire truck for instance.
Well, maybe on-road diesel.
With that bad boy you can junkyard rescue anything congrats, the diesel world is something interesting to navigate
Greta Thunberg would like to have a quiet word with you guys! 😂
How dare you!😂
I don't know if she knows how to have a QUIET word.
Diesels are like gas, just no ignition system. And I definitely see a revival rescue truck. Air, lift, tool storage, man its a rolling shop! Good grab.
Dang I want an Uncle Tom
I have an Uncle Tom. Mine isn't very useful though.
I just bought a 1993 GM 6.5 TD, 100km on motor 230 km truck stored inside. beautiful truck. I also have another 1993 chevy 6.5 standard 4wheel drive am rebuilding it as it is the work truck around the farm and the other is it's replacement for time being. Easy to work these trucks and a decent ride even in the one ton single wheel 4x4.
Biggest piece of crap engine I've ever owned. It's cool but not worth it's weight in scrap. It's amazing that once you own one you learn everything that you guys were doing real quick. It did feel real good when I heard it start though. She's been taken care of. I expected it to give a lot more problems. All she needed was fuel. And everything seems to work. That bed alone is worth double what you paid. That transmission alone is worth a lot. But the constant stumbling and power loss issues suck. Probably needs an injection pump.
I’ve had em. They’re not great.
I wouldn't say junk. Gutless for sure. If you remote mount the PMD 90% of your stumbling and rough running issues will go away.
They were never a heavy duty engine. They will not hang with the Cummins and Powerstrokes, they were never designed to. At the time GM still recommended the 7.4 gas in heavy duty trucks.
What pumps on them?
RuralRider yeah you're right. I guess I was expecting too much from mine and have a sour taste after the injection pump went out so early (less than 200,000 miles) but again, like you said, it's not and never will be a Duramax, powerstorke or Cummins. It did have character that's for sure haha. And the sound made me smile. It's "adequate“ for most jobs when running right. It did get good mileage too for a big full size truck. I did all that good stuff to it, big lift pump, PMD relocated, but it had a hard life.
@@ruralrider9961 true. GMs tow ratings for the Surburban 2500 back in that day was always 10K for 454 gas & 7500 for 6.5TD even after the 1996 uprating to 430 ft/lbs. I believe the 3500 pickups were 18.5K 454 & something like 12.5K for 6.5TD. They just wouldn't handle the pressure & would always run warm if pushed.
Back in 1999 I had a '95 2500 that was converted to '96-up cooling specs, custom built DB2 pump (no more electronics), Phazer gear drive, 18:1 coated marine pistons, Peninsular Diesel custom turbo, hi-flow injectors, exhaust, the works! Engine dynoed at 300hp/540ft/lbs. On paper a real hot rod for the time. And you know what? A bone stock 1st gen PSD would run door handle to door handle with it & always just felt stronger--torque always came on much quicker. I thought I was doing a good thing but never was happy with my truck for what I had spent. Ended up selling it to a guy in Norway who paid for the shipping & everything (evidently 6.5s are in high demand there).
So I can vouch for the gutless claim even after spending over 10K on one.
thats the most valuable rig you bought to date. if obviously needs fuel system work, injectors might be clugged up on it but good thing its a all mechanical diesel they're cheap to buy.
Hope you fixed the rear brakes on the Pontiac, you have them on backwards
Lmao did he really?
@@thetgwarrior Really what? fix them or have them on backwards?
Nice. A truck with compartments for tools and a cherry picker on the back. Top notch revival rig 😉
The engines are good they just start hard, it's a second generation of diesel for chevy what do you expect 😂
Well there was the 5.7 diesel. The 6.2 and the 6.5 which the 6.2 and 6.5 were technically made by Detroit diesel a division of GM. And Detroit had many years of experience in diesels.
This is the perfect truck for when you go deep in the woods to save these cars. Load up with spare parts, gas cans, and enough power to tow stuff out. Perfect truck for the channel.
You guys got super super lucky ! Im on my second injection pump and ive got acollection of pmds ! Mine wontbeven attempt to start still with a brand new pump ! Only have 100k miles on the truck glow plugs work fine injectors have fuel she wont start !
I learn by my older elders to on Gas and Desiel motor plus some Propane fuel set up ! Learn always fun and new challenges too!
6.5's are an acquired taste. I love my 97 dually. They're not a powerhouse or a race car by any means. But it'll pull whatever you want "slowly" all day long!
On the 6.5 the fuel pump is turned on by the oil pressure switch, so not hearing the pump is normal. There is a PMD that is located on the side of the injection pump if it has not been re located. If it is on the side of the injection pump then move it somewhere that gets lots of air flow, a lot of people put them in the front bumper, you can get an extend harness from quadstartuning.com Don’t push them past 10lbs of boost on the stock GM-8 turbo. If you want more boost then go over to quadstar and get a super 60 and a upper intake manifold. I’ve owned and built many of these trucks.... too many of them.
Can't wait to see you guys learning and working on this behemoth. Can't wait to see the next video on it
Open the little valve with the crossbar at the front of the motor. Leave on the little hose and pump it into an empty can. Open up the fuse and relay box and pull the lift pump relay. Jump together the terminals that correspond to 30 and 87 on the relay, and you can use the lift pump to pump the whole tank dry if you want to. Once the little tube isn't sputtering air, you're golden. Close it up.
Important:
**These injection pumps HATE air in them.** That is why you had such a hard time turning it over.
The lift pump is mounted down along the frame. The injection pump is basically the diesel equivalent of a carb, mounted on top of the motor. Got 250,000 miles on mine, still runs like a top.
Kudos on the truck Kevin...You're the 3 car revival program I've spotted now with an IMT truck😉
Since yer unfamiliar with em, I'll tell ya that a common failure point on 6.5s is the Stanadyne fuel injection module, on the drivers side inner fender. And I was told they're about 400 bucks. I was also told u should keep a spare in the glovebox!
Of all the stuff in the lot that old diesel makes the most sense to fully repair and bring up to snuff. With everything else you do revivals on having a vehicle like that with tool storage and a hoist would make your revivals so much easier in so many ways.
Hell just installing a solid air compressor in that would help with all the animal nests cob webs flats etc.
A SERVICE TRUCK IS JUST WHAT YOU GUYS NEED, GOOD DEAL THERE .
I absolutely love how old man got it started!! The way he hung onto the starter and all.. haha hey shes running!👀😱🤪
6.5 turdeo truck finally running diesel engine Chevrolet best vehicles on the road good job gentleman awesome video bless you
Diesel engines are very simple and easy to start, especially the older ones without all the computer garbage. They are really efficient, but the fuel they save is more expensive than gasoline, so you don't save a lot. There's plenty of information out there on what makes them tick, your buddy Rich at Deboss Garage has some really good videos. You did good.
A very useful vehicle you want to keep that you can tow vehicles out of hedgerows etc