They seem pretty decent models, but I have already pre-ordered some Hattons coaches instead, so I will support Hattons in their endeavors. Anyway, I'd rather discourage Hornby from duplicating everyone else's models!
Yeah. You could use those for a custom TVS Annie and Clarabel. I was thinking you could do an engine cavalcade with lots of historic locomotives with coaches and such.
Nice one Sam! I did a video last month on the 6 wheel LNER teak versions and like you I was impressed. They may not have the best detail we've ever seen but I think they'll be good for those who want them to run behind smaller locos in these pre-grouping liveries. It'll certainly be interesting to see how they compare to the Hattons coaches eventually too. 😃
@@SamsTrains They're not perfect but I certainly like them. I don't think Hatton's are doing the LNER livery in teak either so that was a good excuse to go for the Hornby ones initially as well - even if they are totally fictional 😂
Apparently, the coaches were measured by Hattons and Hornby within six weeks of each other. Hattons announced early, Hornby waited until the models were further along the development time line.
‘That’s absolutely correct’ - how can you know this? The source in question suggested that Hornby’s field work took place in November 2019, *just a month* after the Genesis announcement, the CADs for which were already complete. Despite arriving in stock before much of the 2020 range, they were announced and immediately released as part of the 2021 range, Q1 2021, the same quarter Genesis were due for release. You’re telling me none of this was calculated? Without any *facts* to the contrary, how can you not jump to conclusions?
Incorrect - I didn't claim that Hornby duplicated them, at no point did I say that... I made a conscious effort *not to say that* . The *point* is that they do it, maybe not always deliberately, and the effect is the same. So I ask, what *statements* did I make without facts? The argument about the 2021 models coming out before 2020 models was intended to show that the coach R&D started after Hatton's... which you have already accepted. As you rightly say, different models progress at different speeds, and the development of these coaches will have been much quicker than that of, let's say, a steam locomotive at about 24 months. This was the core of my argument - that was the exact point I was making. If they *had* been in development for 2-3 years already (as claimed by Simon Kohler), Hornby must have known they'd be ready for release within the next year... so why not announce them in the 2020 range, unless they were deliberately planning a surprise release just ahead of project Genesis? (Edit: I see Pegasus has now changed their mind and accepted the argument, but just to make the point clear) If it wasn't intended as an aggressive surprise release (as above) It's much more likely that the details were still being finalised/designed at the point of the 2020 range launch, preventing the announcement. Again, this strongly suggests that the project *was not* in development for 2-3 years, and could in fact have been started after October 2019. Of course it's a free market - I'm not saying Hornby have broken any rules... my very words were that it was a 'pity' for the smaller manufacturers... that was the point I was making. It is therefore interesting that you find the argument hilarious - could that be because you failed to understand it? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
And just to be clear "In my comment I clearly said that in this case Hornby has duplicated it" - is a lie - you edited the comment after the fact... and I have the screenshots to prove it...unlucky! You can't just change your argument when it's been disproved! xD
@@SamsTrains I think the fact that Hornby waited until the coaches were almost ready to sell and before the Hattons models are available has made a lot of people think they were trying to steal the market. Your reviews are always fair and clear. I still struggle with the mechanism/performance scores😂 and everyone knows that the J50 and Webb Coal Tank should be the top two😂, but duplication of rolling stock does seem to be a waste of resources some times. Keep up the entertaining work Sam.
Nice range and the colour looks good. With the abundance of small Edwardian & Victorian locomotives now available, these coaches are a valuable and excellent addition. Great review as ever.
i think its Humbrols gold or brass, i have noticed Humbrol can be a bit hit and miss when it comes to the large particles. Some of their paints are fantastic but some are really bitty , their flesh acrylic is consistently awful and always dries with a sandpaper texture
@@toekneekerching9543 I don't use Humbrol for ages now, but the Revel's gold is (use to be) OK, (i mostly use Tamya and Life-color but i don't have metal colors from those brands).
Sam: Hornby announced some new three and six wheel coaches Me : three wheels? Me : trying to picture what 3 wheeled coaches would look like! 😂 Great video Sam!
Imagine using these LBSCR Coaches and an E2 Class, like Thomas, against Thomas with Annie and Clarabel on the tracks and see if anyone can do a real life Thomas and the character Thomas around the tracks and have a race of the two.
Great review mate! Really looking forward to seeing the great western coaches 👍 Also, thanks for saying that bit about independent manufacturers at the start. Needed to be said!
Thank you Sam!! Did you know that the E1 was also used on the Metropolitan Line of London Underground at the time it was the Metropolitan Railway. We have some on the top floor of the London Transport Museum in Covent Garden Market Area.
I just bought some of these coaches in GNR livery, and I think I found the cause of the stiffness when rolling. After taking the body off I found there are long metal weights on the chassis, and on one of them it has shifted so it was sitting not dead centre but right over the wheel well. Thus in certain situations the wheel would rub against the weight and stop rolling. I moved it back and haven't had a problem since.
Very nice. :) As others said, this type is featured heavily in Thomas, but here's a bit of history: Season 1: Several orange variants (all 3 types in this video) appeared as branchline coaches, though the brake compartments were rather flatted. Some had faces and Annie & Clarabel had names on their sides. Though in the Railway Series, Annie & Clarabel have bogies (likely LMS suburbans) though I kinda prefer how they're LBSC in the show as Thomas is himself. Season 2: The orange ones were still used, but they also introduced red ones with more accurate brake compartments - which later became the norm by S3 and Annie & Clarabel were the only orange ones left. In late CGI, these were shown on both branch line engines (like Edward) but also on the main line behind James and even Henry
During the recent online Warley Show I was able to ask the Bachman boss if they planned any N gauge versions of these sort of coaches, he looked a bit cagey and said not until there is a demand for them ... well clearly there will be a demand, now that oo modellers have them. So come on Farish/Dapol let’s see what you can do!
just spotted elsewhere and amazed and delighted to see LBSC coaches as RTR models! White roofs were apparantly to ensure the cleaning department were doing their jobs (!)
Wow these look nice. Probably intended as a replacement for the old generic 4 wheelers, which were based loosely on the Dorset Central railway (later S&D) 3 sompartment 3 wheel coach. I think they've also gone for the Ratio type coaches whcih I have to finish mine off lol. I reckon Hornby have rushed these out but really I think people are just as likely to buy a couple of each, these and Genesis coaches so really it does give a good bit of choice. I might pick some up myself if Warley returns this year.
That's okay - Jenny has a much closer relationship with Hornby than I do. I pay for my models, so I'm not afraid to speak my mind! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains That is why your reviews are so useful, you tell the truth. I have watched so many reviews where they tell me the loco is good, only to find out it not so good when I buy it. If you say a loco is good, it generally is.
I understand there was a spat between Hornby and Rails (which led to Rails no longer stocking Hornby) based on some alleged dispute over a forthcoming model Rails wanted to produce but Hornby also went ahead with the same, by way of competition. If true, one could argue either that free competition is acceptable or that muscling in on smaller competitors isn’t right. I lean toward the latter. For that reason, if I buy some of these types of coaches, they will be genius, even though I have no great affection for Hatton’s. And Sam, based on your thorough, and IMHO humble opinion, accurate review of the Dapol Terrier and also the Dapol’s water tower debacle, I concluded its QA/QC is poor and resolved to never buy its products, cancelling the pre-order I had for the Stroudley. A candid review of models is what we need, especially as prices now suggest we’re being gouged (are you listening, Bachmann?) The magazines don’t provide that service because - who pays the piper calls the tune. So, good for you Sam - keep it up.
They certainly weren't very pleased with each-other - though I don't know whether or not that was the reason they no longer do business. I'll be very interested to see what the Genesis coaches are like - I've only seen the samples so far, so while I do have a good idea, I won't draw a conclusion until I've received my order! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
These would go great with a terrier, I wrote this before you showed the terrier pulling them. But they would look good with the lbsc marsh umber liveried terriers
@@SamsTrains hi Sam I Started my Small locomotive collection by purchasing second hand Models and I am saving up to get my mainline Erlestoke Manor repaired and to buy the Hornby hush hush the one that hornby first released
I've got some of the Hornby coaches, BR versions, look great, and the lighting system is quite a revolution in DC working lights. I think Jenny Kirk put it best when She did her review. Rather complimenting each other than competing each other. I think too both companies are filling a gap in the market that has been said before by others that there was no market for these coaches. I'd imagine the Hatton's variant will be more detailed and will have an advantage with the announced SDJR coaches, but in terms of competition I just think it's something a little bit inflated. Now in my opinion, OK yeah Hornby have announced some products at the same time as Rails, but for other products on the market you could apply that competitive mindset to Bachmann who have made models that Hornby have made before like the A4s and 9Fs; models that Hornby have championed for decades! or the large praries that dapol have announced, why are people not complaining about those? or what about everyone who has made at least ONE mk1 coach in their time of being in business??? It just annoys me now that I hear about some supposed rivalry between companies, and if one company doesn't want to deal with the other because they're annoyed at them for supposedly copying them, so be it (eg. Rails vs Hornby). Maybe someone will tell me I'm thinking too much, and even though I have been a bit worried about the supposed clash that could happen between Hornby and Hattons, I can't help but to open my mind at the idea that it might not be the case. I suppose we just have to find out which road whichever side chooses to take this.
Thanks a lot for sharing! No, I don't think that's quite accurate - for most people, the two ranges fill the same gap in the market, and therefore they have to be competing products. The A4s and 9fs are very different - the prototypes are world famous, and the models were produced and released years apart from each-other. The story isn't the same with these coaches - the two ranges are so similar, comparatively niche, and yet they're arriving in the same quarter as each other. An ex-Hornby employee claims that Hornby started surveying their Stroudley coaches *the month after* Hatton's made their announcement... it seems very unlikely that Hornby were not motivated by Genesis in any way. People aren't complaining about Dapol's large prairie because *Dapol announced it a year before Hornby did* ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
No, Sam, you're not a cretin and I do agree that Hornby is being selfish by duplicating the four-wheel range. Why don't they, instead, develop a range of vintage coaches that hasn't been produced before, such as the toplight coaches, dreadnoughts or even the arc roof variety. There are so many styles out there. Hornby are not showing any sort of inventive or brave skills by just copying everyone else and yes, they are damaging the industry. Come on Hornby, show some backbone and get your undoubted marketing and engineering skills working on projects that will really get the modelling hobby up and running to new heights. Sam, you said yourself how gorgeous the clerestory coaches were and there are so many more beautiful liveries out there. Sorry about the rant, lol.
Thanks Sam. For your next servicing video I can recommend picking up some needle nose tweezers - they make it much easier to pick up that hair / errant piece of debris than normal tweezers do.
Hi Sam just as an aside and if you didn’t know those disc wheels were common on old coaching stock they were remade up of sectional wooden centres I believe bolted together with an iron or steel ring. They are called Mansell wheels and were supposed to provide a more comfortable ride some were finished with varnished wooden centres.
I'm still considering these though I just finished a ratio 4 wheeler kit before they were announced. But I like the idea of having a mix of different 4 wheeler designs as there were in real life even within a railway itself. I think itd be nice to see each model company do their own version of coach. Also I believe that the hornby ones are pretty much lbscr designs but they just decided to release them in multiple liverys because of hattons so you can tell as they have the quite distinctive ends on the brake coach. Great video can't wait to see the rest of the 4/6 wheelers.
they do look pretty nice, touch of weathering on the roof and underframe just to bring the details out and I could see actually liking a rake of these, don't look hard to fit lights too and a bit of paint would hide the raised floor bit
Great review Sam! I’m looking forward to seeing more variations of these coaches. I’m interested in seeing which version between Hattons and Hornby is better and which is better value before I order any. Do you know when the Genesis coaches are being released? Hope you’re well!
Thanks very much Harry - I'm really interested to see what they're like too! I think they said Q1 2021, so hopefully not too long! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam if I use a control remote for the rail with a different set will it work and will other trains work on it or does the control only use the one train that was assigned??
That depends - if you're using analogue, it'll control every engine on the circuit of track. To control them independently, you need DCC! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, another cracking video thanks 👍 I am inclined to agree with your view on duplication of product ranges. I only have experience in N gauge, but in general when one manufacture announces a direct competition product against another in N, one will back down. Some notable exceptions are when there is enough of the prototype to cover many variations (the class 66 is a classic example), but annoyingly we have recently seen two manufactures covering the exact same loco!
Fun-ish fact: Bachmann basically already produced LBSC 4-wheel coaches. Technically anyway, on the Thomas and Friends Range, when they produced the red branchline coaches. Anyway nice review Sam!
It's a little weird seeing the E4 on screen, seeing as I have that exact same model displayed on my shelf (along with an A1 Terrier, L&YR Class 5 and a Class 153). As for the coaches, I'll probably try to get some for myself eventually, seeing as I have two LB&SCR locomotives.
They look OK-ish but the strangulation of small manufacturers is just outrageous. Especially when the small manufacturers actually try to create new models and the strangler is just trying to duplicate them, this is not fair competition at all! P/S: 7:20 R40069 nice I see you're a man of culture as well, Lord Sam of Sodor
Hello Sam, those are some neat coaches you got there. Why don’t you run the E2 with the brake coach and one regular coach so it looks like Thomas, Annie and Clarabel?
I've taken delivery of the 4 wheel BR brake baggage coach and a 6 wheel BR 3rd class, they do look good and will be rolling behind among others a Hattons P class. The quality is pretty good the main criticism was a squeaky set of middle wheels on the 6 wheel coach, a dab of oil cured it. I had pre-ordered two Southern Railways, but the order has been cancelled they seem to have been put back until later in the year or sold out. (already?). However, I am still going with Hattons for their LB&SCR and SECR coaches, as you said it will be interesting to compare the two, the smaller companies should play their cards closer to the chest or risk being victims of a large company juggernaut.
Thanks for sharing Kevin! interesting about the 6-wheeler - I'll have to look out for any squeaking when I get mine! Sounds good - it will be very interesting to compare the two! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’m a big fan of the Era 2 stuff, so was very pleased when Hornby released the NBR coaches to go with my NBR loco “Maude”. I must say the lighting system works brilliantly and looks fantastic- well worth the extra few quid - can be retro fitted too which is great as an upgrade 👍 thanks Sam - great review as always 🚂
Considering getting the lner rack, but I don't have large amounts of money and don't intend to get anything until the end of the year, so I'll wait until hattons coaches come out and see how they compare. Fantastic review as all was Sam keep up the good work!
Fully agree with you Sam that to keep the hobby growing we need a wide variety of models to cater for everyone. For instance I grew up travelling on the lovely Class 304 EMU's into Manchester Piccadilly. I've never seen a model of one unfortunately, but still remember the big bouncy seats lol !
They look lovely and some LNER six wheelers might look nice behind my J11 (ignore the fact it’s in BR black), though I am a bit worried with this trend of Hornby copying others, let’s just hope these were coincidences
Hey um sam? Do you know the 5mt Black 5 No. 44767 “George Stephenson”? I’ve noticed something about the side rods, it has a different setup than normal Black 5 steam locomotives, why is that?
Hi Sam, Lovely coaches and the livery is well done. A tat expensive seen the Roco 4 wheel "Donnerbüshe" with far more detail cost around 17€. But we observe dramatic price ++ changes now for most model railroad products. Competition is not necessary negative and might influence pricing. Thanks for reviewing & greetings
Thanks a lot Filip - yes too expensive really for what they are - maybe you're right about the competition... maybe the Hornby terriers would have been more expensive if not? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I finally bought one of these. I bought a first class coach off of eBay and After looking at it I can’t seem to find that issue with the oil lamp caps. maybe the eBay seller found it and fixed it? I’m not sure but it’s possible. So far I haven’t experienced any problems with mine yet. Would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants Stroudly coaches but doesn’t want to 1. Wait for the Hatton’s ones or 2. Doesn’t have the budget for the Hattons ones.
bought one of the 6 wheel teak ones with lights and have to say i do really like them, ordered two more so i can have a somewhat okay rake of them, gonna try the hattons ones as well to see which i like more and that one will be in the ncb blue
I've just received two of the 4 wheel GNR coaches with lights and I think they're fantastic! It's a bit awkward with Hattons though but I've two GWRs on preorder with them so I don't feel too bad!
Sounds good mate - I expect so too, but can't say it for sure until I've received my production version... fallen into the trap of drawing conclusions from pre-production samples before! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Excellent review of the new Hornby LBSCR four wheel coaches 👍👍 I was also surprised that Hornby was going to do these four as well six wheel coaches and I couldn’t believe that they (Hornby) were going to do them. I was thinking of Hatton’s reaction when Hornby announce that they were going to do the same design carriages. I’ve also went for the LBSC livery carriages and I’m not waiting for mine to arrive, but excited to run them with my LBSC Terrier (from Hornby) on my layout.
Thanks so much Joe - yes it was a shock release, particularly for Hatton's. Just got to wait and see how Genesis turns out now! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
A real massive step up from those even more basic, shorter and somewhat toy-like coaches that Hornby been producing for decades. Were these coached made prior to these intended to be accurate to a certain type of branch line coach?
Love These Coaches Looks Very Old Fashioned, Detail Looks Insane And Glad You Got Plenty Of London And Brighton South Coast Railway (LBSC) Locos And Very Suit Them
These coaches look absolutely beautiful 🥰 just like you said they are simple but very effective. The wheels are very interesting. The price also seems decent. The quality is top notch. I can definitely with your rating. I would maybe give the value 3.5 since the paint looks very good to me. Nice review, Sam 👍
"R40069, nice." hehe They look nice, although a bit basic for a £30 price tag. I'm tempted by some, although not sure which livery: LBSCR for the old tooled improved engine green terrier, LNWR to go with the coal tank, SR green to go with the BR malachite green terrier, or something else. I'd get a mix of types, without lights, but I'm also interested in some hattons ones too for comparison. My dapol TPE 68 arrived today, is a little noisy on DC before running in though. And also an EWS 37/4, 411 Ty Hafan also arrived as my 7th 37/4 and my 12th bachmann 37.
haha nice! Yeah I agree, too basic for what they cost, but great looking overall! That sounds good - hopefully it'll get a bit quieter with time?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Loved the color and painted detail on these coaches. If you ever review the LBSC 70 Thomas, you gotta have him pull these coaches during the running session. :)
Thanks so much - I've looked at samples (which were better), but won't draw any conclusions until I've reviewed production versions from Hatton's! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yeah that's right - I'd guess they will be yeah, these will probably replace them! Maybe they'll still turn up in train sets though?? Thanks for watching, Sam :) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’ve ordered some NBR ones as “through coaches” for my Caledonian Railway set-up. Not feeling guilty about that, though, as Hatton’s have never announced any NBR livery. I’m swithering over what to do about the LNWR “through” coaches, though, as both Hornby and Hatton’s have announced them and they’re both due very soon... It’s great to see the Hornby coaches, though, Sam - thank you for that.
Hello Sam, long time no see. That is a wonderful review on the brand new Hornby LBSC 4 Wheeled Coaches. These coaches do look like the real full size ones. They are Stroudley 4-wheeled coaches built by William Stroudley, who also built the A1x Terriers. I'm planning to get the full set for my Hornby A1x Terrier Stepney very soon. Once again, a magnificent review and I respect your opinion. 5 Stars 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 10/10
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Hatton: makes new pre grouping models
Honrby: *and I took that personally*
Lol
I know right!!
@@SamsTrains 7:21 nice
Hey it opens more options for the cheaper people like me. It’s just a shame I can’t find any for sale
@@BMMEC6000 They are barely cheaper, and Hatton’s ones are better.
If I remember correctly Annie and Clarabel were based on LBSC Stroudley Coaches.
Yeah I think you're right Luke!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
On TV, yes. In the Railway Series they were based on the larger LMS Suburban coaches.
@@SamsTrains if you buy the new Hornby E2 can u run it with those LBSC coaches
Really 😮
Yeah they look very similar in the television series, but in the original books they were boogied I think.
They seem pretty decent models, but I have already pre-ordered some Hattons coaches instead, so I will support Hattons in their endeavors. Anyway, I'd rather discourage Hornby from duplicating everyone else's models!
That's good to hear - we'll see what happens with that! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
should do a vs vid once there out
I would love to buy these coaches, they will make a great addition to my layout and might be my first hornby rolling stock.
I can recommend them Aidan!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wait for the hattons ones to come out, hornby will probably be cheaper in quality.
@@SamsTrains more coaches please
@@jmtrainz2582 thank you for the suggestion, but where I came from I only buy stuff from ebay or amazon.
Yeah, really only buy from ebay myself, if I end buying them it'll be when they start showing up on the used market.
Yeah. You could use those for a custom TVS Annie and Clarabel. I was thinking you could do an engine cavalcade with lots of historic locomotives with coaches and such.
Yeah you totally could - it'd look fantastic! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sounds like they have done a 'Boeing'; Just revamped an old model and given it a repaint, add MCAS then trying to pass them off as new!
Nice one Sam! I did a video last month on the 6 wheel LNER teak versions and like you I was impressed. They may not have the best detail we've ever seen but I think they'll be good for those who want them to run behind smaller locos in these pre-grouping liveries. It'll certainly be interesting to see how they compare to the Hattons coaches eventually too. 😃
Ahh fantastic mate - they're good then? Can't wait to try some for myself! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains They're not perfect but I certainly like them. I don't think Hatton's are doing the LNER livery in teak either so that was a good excuse to go for the Hornby ones initially as well - even if they are totally fictional 😂
Apparently, the coaches were measured by Hattons and Hornby within six weeks of each other. Hattons announced early, Hornby waited until the models were further along the development time line.
‘That’s absolutely correct’ - how can you know this? The source in question suggested that Hornby’s field work took place in November 2019, *just a month* after the Genesis announcement, the CADs for which were already complete. Despite arriving in stock before much of the 2020 range, they were announced and immediately released as part of the 2021 range, Q1 2021, the same quarter Genesis were due for release. You’re telling me none of this was calculated?
Without any *facts* to the contrary, how can you not jump to conclusions?
Incorrect - I didn't claim that Hornby duplicated them, at no point did I say that... I made a conscious effort *not to say that* . The *point* is that they do it, maybe not always deliberately, and the effect is the same. So I ask, what *statements* did I make without facts?
The argument about the 2021 models coming out before 2020 models was intended to show that the coach R&D started after Hatton's... which you have already accepted. As you rightly say, different models progress at different speeds, and the development of these coaches will have been much quicker than that of, let's say, a steam locomotive at about 24 months. This was the core of my argument - that was the exact point I was making.
If they *had* been in development for 2-3 years already (as claimed by Simon Kohler), Hornby must have known they'd be ready for release within the next year... so why not announce them in the 2020 range, unless they were deliberately planning a surprise release just ahead of project Genesis?
(Edit: I see Pegasus has now changed their mind and accepted the argument, but just to make the point clear) If it wasn't intended as an aggressive surprise release (as above) It's much more likely that the details were still being finalised/designed at the point of the 2020 range launch, preventing the announcement. Again, this strongly suggests that the project *was not* in development for 2-3 years, and could in fact have been started after October 2019.
Of course it's a free market - I'm not saying Hornby have broken any rules... my very words were that it was a 'pity' for the smaller manufacturers... that was the point I was making.
It is therefore interesting that you find the argument hilarious - could that be because you failed to understand it?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
And just to be clear "In my comment I clearly said that in this case Hornby has duplicated it" - is a lie - you edited the comment after the fact... and I have the screenshots to prove it...unlucky! You can't just change your argument when it's been disproved! xD
@@SamsTrains I think the fact that Hornby waited until the coaches were almost ready to sell and before the Hattons models are available has made a lot of people think they were trying to steal the market. Your reviews are always fair and clear. I still struggle with the mechanism/performance scores😂 and everyone knows that the J50 and Webb Coal Tank should be the top two😂, but duplication of rolling stock does seem to be a waste of resources some times. Keep up the entertaining work Sam.
Nice range and the colour looks good. With the abundance of small Edwardian & Victorian locomotives now available, these coaches are a valuable and excellent addition. Great review as ever.
Thanks Leroy - yes indeed, great that we're finally seeing some of these! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
"R40069, nice" - Sam'sTrains 2021
2000 models in the future we'll have an R42069
haha, I'm a child! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I can see another lemon in the room: Horby used that awful gold paint again, with the large "particles"!
i think its Humbrols gold or brass, i have noticed Humbrol can be a bit hit and miss when it comes to the large particles. Some of their paints are fantastic but some are really bitty , their flesh acrylic is consistently awful and always dries with a sandpaper texture
@@toekneekerching9543 I don't use Humbrol for ages now, but the Revel's gold is (use to be) OK, (i mostly use Tamya and Life-color but i don't have metal colors from those brands).
Yeah they did - though I will say this wasn't apparent to the naked eye - only noticed when I looked at the closeups!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam: Hornby announced some new three and six wheel coaches
Me : three wheels?
Me : trying to picture what 3 wheeled coaches would look like! 😂
Great video Sam!
Look at a picture of a Robin Reliant car; that should give you a good impersonation. After all, that's what three rail track is for! Hehehe...
haha my bad, lol!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Imagine using these LBSCR Coaches and an E2 Class, like Thomas, against Thomas with Annie and Clarabel on the tracks and see if anyone can do a real life Thomas and the character Thomas around the tracks and have a race of the two.
Definitely Lewis - I'm going to try that some time!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains real life vs Thomas ???!!!!
7:20 DAMN SAM BE PULLING OUT THE MEMES FINALLY
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Why thank you Jennifer kirk
What did he do? He just read out the info.
haha!! ;D
@@melchestermodelrailway he read r400069 he said nice after 69
Three and Six wheeled coaches - now 6 wheel is fine - but 3 wheel sound fun...
haha did I say three?!? Uh oh!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think hornby were working on the coaches before Hatton but I don't know, I would love to get some of the LBSCR coaches to go with my E2 and terrier
We'll never know for sure! Sounds awesome - they are a perfect match for those!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice!
Great review mate! Really looking forward to seeing the great western coaches 👍 Also, thanks for saying that bit about independent manufacturers at the start. Needed to be said!
Thanks so much! Yeah the GWR ones look fantastic for sure! I agree, it needed to be said!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey sam, I am really curious what the first model train you bought/owned and do you still have it?
Yeah!! It was the Caledonian Pug (I got it for Christmas) and sure I still have it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you Sam!! Did you know that the E1 was also used on the Metropolitan Line of London Underground at the time it was the Metropolitan Railway. We have some on the top floor of the London Transport Museum in Covent Garden Market Area.
I never knew this - that's fascinating!! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
7:20 "...0069 nice" very subtle there ;)
haha! ;D
I have never been more impressed with coaches in my life! It's the answer to all who (like myself) have pre grouping engines. Just amazing!
The Bachmann SECR birdcage set are the best RTR coaches I have seen - so far.
haha awesome - glad to hear you liked them so much!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
this coaches in Hornby version looks beautiful
Yeah they are beautiful!! :D
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I just bought some of these coaches in GNR livery, and I think I found the cause of the stiffness when rolling. After taking the body off I found there are long metal weights on the chassis, and on one of them it has shifted so it was sitting not dead centre but right over the wheel well. Thus in certain situations the wheel would rub against the weight and stop rolling. I moved it back and haven't had a problem since.
This might be the last video I watch before I die of hypothermia. All the power around us is out
Godspeed my guy
Oh god! Stay warm mate - hope it's fixed soon!!
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R.I.P. Jason
He was very loved, and died an honorable death watching Sam review new coaches. May he rest forever in eternal peace.
Thanks everyone
@@Jason_The_Stooge sure
Lovely video! I really like these coaches! What kit is the row of houses near the tardis? I've been for looking for one similar to that for ages!
Thanks so much! That was a free kit from wordsworth model railway! :D
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@@SamsTrains Your very welcome! Thank you! :)
Having a locomotive pulling these coaches just looks amazing and hi
Yeah I agree - and hi!! :D
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Very nice. :) As others said, this type is featured heavily in Thomas, but here's a bit of history:
Season 1: Several orange variants (all 3 types in this video) appeared as branchline coaches, though the brake compartments were rather flatted. Some had faces and Annie & Clarabel had names on their sides. Though in the Railway Series, Annie & Clarabel have bogies (likely LMS suburbans) though I kinda prefer how they're LBSC in the show as Thomas is himself.
Season 2: The orange ones were still used, but they also introduced red ones with more accurate brake compartments - which later became the norm by S3 and Annie & Clarabel were the only orange ones left.
In late CGI, these were shown on both branch line engines (like Edward) but also on the main line behind James and even Henry
Thanks Vincent, appreciate all the info on this! :D
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Lovey looking models, wish some one would do 4 wheeled coaches in N gauge as I would definitely buy them-Ben
Graham Farish did four wheelers in the seventies. May still turn up for auction etc. Not up to modern standards.
Thanks a lot Ben - would be interesting to see these in N gauge! :D
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During the recent online Warley Show I was able to ask the Bachman boss if they planned any N gauge versions of these sort of coaches, he looked a bit cagey and said not until there is a demand for them ... well clearly there will be a demand, now that oo modellers have them. So come on Farish/Dapol let’s see what you can do!
just spotted elsewhere and amazed and delighted to see LBSC coaches as RTR models! White roofs were apparantly to ensure the cleaning department were doing their jobs (!)
Hi Sam's train these are looking this, alos incredible 3 coaches I've seen bit of Thomas's coaches
Thanks Llesh - yeah they do look like Thomas' coaches! :D
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Yes sam it is.
Wow these look nice. Probably intended as a replacement for the old generic 4 wheelers, which were based loosely on the Dorset Central railway (later S&D) 3 sompartment 3 wheel coach. I think they've also gone for the Ratio type coaches whcih I have to finish mine off lol. I reckon Hornby have rushed these out but really I think people are just as likely to buy a couple of each, these and Genesis coaches so really it does give a good bit of choice. I might pick some up myself if Warley returns this year.
7:21.
Nice! ;D
Love how you are always so honest with your reviews.
Thank you! I try my best! :D
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Meanwhile Jenny Kirk is like no no no Hornby spent years developing their models they don't steal ideas.
I am not trying to offend Jenny.
That's okay - Jenny has a much closer relationship with Hornby than I do. I pay for my models, so I'm not afraid to speak my mind!
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@@SamsTrains That is why your reviews are so useful, you tell the truth. I have watched so many reviews where they tell me the loco is good, only to find out it not so good when I buy it. If you say a loco is good, it generally is.
Your first 2:15 of this video sums up the situation perfectly!
Thanks a lot mate, glad you approve!
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I’d rather wait for the genius’s ones. For some reason these coaches look cheap
I don't blame you Tim - that's because they are pretty cheaply made... overall effective, but the value isn't excellent!
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I understand there was a spat between Hornby and Rails (which led to Rails no longer stocking Hornby) based on some alleged dispute over a forthcoming model Rails wanted to produce but Hornby also went ahead with the same, by way of competition. If true, one could argue either that free competition is acceptable or that muscling in on smaller competitors isn’t right. I lean toward the latter. For that reason, if I buy some of these types of coaches, they will be genius, even though I have no great affection for Hatton’s. And Sam, based on your thorough, and IMHO humble opinion, accurate review of the Dapol Terrier and also the Dapol’s water tower debacle, I concluded its QA/QC is poor and resolved to never buy its products, cancelling the pre-order I had for the Stroudley. A candid review of models is what we need, especially as prices now suggest we’re being gouged (are you listening, Bachmann?) The magazines don’t provide that service because - who pays the piper calls the tune. So, good for you Sam - keep it up.
They certainly weren't very pleased with each-other - though I don't know whether or not that was the reason they no longer do business. I'll be very interested to see what the Genesis coaches are like - I've only seen the samples so far, so while I do have a good idea, I won't draw a conclusion until I've received my order!
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Maybe Hornby could use their massive resources to build decent quality models...
haha that would be nice too Kenneth! xD
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These would go great with a terrier, I wrote this before you showed the terrier pulling them. But they would look good with the lbsc marsh umber liveried terriers
haha they certainly did do!! :D
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I got here in like the 1st 3 seconds
Nope
haha well done!! Very early this time mate! :D
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@@SamsTrains hi Sam I Started my Small locomotive collection by purchasing second hand Models and I am saving up to get my mainline Erlestoke Manor repaired and to buy the Hornby hush hush the one that hornby first released
I've got some of the Hornby coaches, BR versions, look great, and the lighting system is quite a revolution in DC working lights. I think Jenny Kirk put it best when She did her review. Rather complimenting each other than competing each other.
I think too both companies are filling a gap in the market that has been said before by others that there was no market for these coaches. I'd imagine the Hatton's variant will be more detailed and will have an advantage with the announced SDJR coaches, but in terms of competition I just think it's something a little bit inflated.
Now in my opinion, OK yeah Hornby have announced some products at the same time as Rails, but for other products on the market you could apply that competitive mindset to Bachmann who have made models that Hornby have made before like the A4s and 9Fs; models that Hornby have championed for decades! or the large praries that dapol have announced, why are people not complaining about those? or what about everyone who has made at least ONE mk1 coach in their time of being in business??? It just annoys me now that I hear about some supposed rivalry between companies, and if one company doesn't want to deal with the other because they're annoyed at them for supposedly copying them, so be it (eg. Rails vs Hornby). Maybe someone will tell me I'm thinking too much, and even though I have been a bit worried about the supposed clash that could happen between Hornby and Hattons, I can't help but to open my mind at the idea that it might not be the case. I suppose we just have to find out which road whichever side chooses to take this.
Thanks a lot for sharing! No, I don't think that's quite accurate - for most people, the two ranges fill the same gap in the market, and therefore they have to be competing products. The A4s and 9fs are very different - the prototypes are world famous, and the models were produced and released years apart from each-other. The story isn't the same with these coaches - the two ranges are so similar, comparatively niche, and yet they're arriving in the same quarter as each other. An ex-Hornby employee claims that Hornby started surveying their Stroudley coaches *the month after* Hatton's made their announcement... it seems very unlikely that Hornby were not motivated by Genesis in any way. People aren't complaining about Dapol's large prairie because *Dapol announced it a year before Hornby did* ;)
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No, Sam, you're not a cretin and I do agree that Hornby is being selfish by duplicating the four-wheel range. Why don't they, instead, develop a range of vintage coaches that hasn't been produced before, such as the toplight coaches, dreadnoughts or even the arc roof variety. There are so many styles out there. Hornby are not showing any sort of inventive or brave skills by just copying everyone else and yes, they are damaging the industry. Come on Hornby, show some backbone and get your undoubted marketing and engineering skills working on projects that will really get the modelling hobby up and running to new heights. Sam, you said yourself how gorgeous the clerestory coaches were and there are so many more beautiful liveries out there. Sorry about the rant, lol.
Thanks Sam. For your next servicing video I can recommend picking up some needle nose tweezers - they make it much easier to pick up that hair / errant piece of debris than normal tweezers do.
That's a good idea - I'll look into some, thanks! :D
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What do you think about the McIntosh 812 Class 0-6-0 that is coming soon from Rails of Sheffield by Bachmann?
They really do look amazing! Can't justify one at that price though unfortunately - not £200! :(
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Agree, for that price at least 'top notch' and sound fitted (even TTS)... price put me off from pre-order yet.
Hi Sam just as an aside and if you didn’t know those disc wheels were common on old coaching stock they were remade up of sectional wooden centres
I believe bolted together with an iron or steel ring. They are called Mansell wheels and were supposed to provide a more comfortable ride some were finished with varnished wooden centres.
Thanks a lot for the info on those Mike, appreciate it!
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I'm still considering these though I just finished a ratio 4 wheeler kit before they were announced. But I like the idea of having a mix of different 4 wheeler designs as there were in real life even within a railway itself. I think itd be nice to see each model company do their own version of coach. Also I believe that the hornby ones are pretty much lbscr designs but they just decided to release them in multiple liverys because of hattons so you can tell as they have the quite distinctive ends on the brake coach. Great video can't wait to see the rest of the 4/6 wheelers.
Ahh that's bad luck mate - yeah that's true, not bad to have the two different designs out there I suppose!! ;D
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they do look pretty nice, touch of weathering on the roof and underframe just to bring the details out and I could see actually liking a rake of these, don't look hard to fit lights too and a bit of paint would hide the raised floor bit
Yeah for sure - bit of weathering would make a huge difference!
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Great review Sam! I’m looking forward to seeing more variations of these coaches. I’m interested in seeing which version between Hattons and Hornby is better and which is better value before I order any. Do you know when the Genesis coaches are being released? Hope you’re well!
Thanks very much Harry - I'm really interested to see what they're like too! I think they said Q1 2021, so hopefully not too long!
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Just picked up 1st, 2x3rd and Brake LB&SCR with lighting from Model Railways Direct for 21.75 each, very happy with them.
Sam if I use a control remote for the rail with a different set will it work and will other trains work on it or does the control only use the one train that was assigned??
That depends - if you're using analogue, it'll control every engine on the circuit of track. To control them independently, you need DCC!
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Thank you!!
Looked up some of the others in the range: Impressed with the GWR LNWR SR & NBR. No Midland Railway? but Hattons seem to have that covered.
Yeah there's a great selection - maybe more liveries will follow I guess?
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Hi Sam, another cracking video thanks 👍
I am inclined to agree with your view on duplication of product ranges. I only have experience in N gauge, but in general when one manufacture announces a direct competition product against another in N, one will back down.
Some notable exceptions are when there is enough of the prototype to cover many variations (the class 66 is a classic example), but annoyingly we have recently seen two manufactures covering the exact same loco!
Thanks so much Adam - yeah we've seen a fair bit of that happening too, though that's not the case here!
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Fun-ish fact: Bachmann basically already produced LBSC 4-wheel coaches. Technically anyway, on the Thomas and Friends Range, when they produced the red branchline coaches.
Anyway nice review Sam!
That is true actually - though they're not as detailed as these! ;D
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@@SamsTrains true, just thought I would point that out.
It's a little weird seeing the E4 on screen, seeing as I have that exact same model displayed on my shelf (along with an A1 Terrier, L&YR Class 5 and a Class 153).
As for the coaches, I'll probably try to get some for myself eventually, seeing as I have two LB&SCR locomotives.
Ahh fantastic - lucky you having one too - they're amazing!
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7:21 nice
Nice! ;D
They look OK-ish but the strangulation of small manufacturers is just outrageous. Especially when the small manufacturers actually try to create new models and the strangler is just trying to duplicate them, this is not fair competition at all!
P/S: 7:20 R40069 nice
I see you're a man of culture as well, Lord Sam of Sodor
Yeah it is a little unfair isn't it? May the best manufacturer win I suppose!!
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Hello Sam, those are some neat coaches you got there. Why don’t you run the E2 with the brake coach and one regular coach so it looks like Thomas, Annie and Clarabel?
Thanks a lot mate! Ooh yeah I could totally do that - great idea!! :D
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@@SamsTrains heheh 😊
I've taken delivery of the 4 wheel BR brake baggage coach and a 6 wheel BR 3rd class, they do look good and will be rolling behind among others a Hattons P class. The quality is pretty good the main criticism was a squeaky set of middle wheels on the 6 wheel coach, a dab of oil cured it. I had pre-ordered two Southern Railways, but the order has been cancelled they seem to have been put back until later in the year or sold out. (already?).
However, I am still going with Hattons for their LB&SCR and SECR coaches, as you said it will be interesting to compare the two, the smaller companies should play their cards closer to the chest or risk being victims of a large company juggernaut.
Thanks for sharing Kevin! interesting about the 6-wheeler - I'll have to look out for any squeaking when I get mine! Sounds good - it will be very interesting to compare the two!
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I’m a big fan of the Era 2 stuff, so was very pleased when Hornby released the NBR coaches to go with my NBR loco “Maude”. I must say the lighting system works brilliantly and looks fantastic- well worth the extra few quid - can be retro fitted too which is great as an upgrade 👍 thanks Sam - great review as always 🚂
Great to hear that - yes it's amazing to finally have coaches for these lovely locos! :D
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Considering getting the lner rack, but I don't have large amounts of money and don't intend to get anything until the end of the year, so I'll wait until hattons coaches come out and see how they compare. Fantastic review as all was Sam keep up the good work!
Ahh that's fair enough Matt - yeah no harm in waiting at all, best to know where you stand!
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7:19 NICE.
haha nice!! ;D
Fully agree with you Sam that to keep the hobby growing we need a wide variety of models to cater for everyone. For instance I grew up travelling on the lovely Class 304 EMU's into Manchester Piccadilly. I've never seen a model of one unfortunately, but still remember the big bouncy seats lol !
Thanks a lot mate yeah you're right... fingers crossed for a 304 one day... complete with bouncy seats!!
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Good one bro they look like the branch line coaches in Thomas and friends
Yeah they do actually - just like them in fact!
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They look lovely and some LNER six wheelers might look nice behind my J11 (ignore the fact it’s in BR black), though I am a bit worried with this trend of Hornby copying others, let’s just hope these were coincidences
Yeah absolutely - the J11 is a great call actually! :D
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wow, they look Fantastic! Great video Sam
Thanks Sam, glad you liked them! :D
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Amazing coaches! Is there a affiliate link?
Thank you! Sadly not - Hatton's are out of stock of these already! :O
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0:33 Three wheeled coaches? Are they three rail?
haha, slip of the tongue! ;D
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Awesome video and really nice trailers 👍
Thanks so much mate! :D
I haven’t watched your channel in December but I’m back now!
Welcome back Adam! :D
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Hey um sam? Do you know the 5mt Black 5 No. 44767 “George Stephenson”? I’ve noticed something about the side rods, it has a different setup than normal Black 5 steam locomotives, why is that?
An experimental loco to test the use of outside Stephenson's valve gear.
Works well but some disadvantages so not pursued more.
@@johnd8892 oh ok I see, thanks for the info
Thanks for this John - I wasn't aware of this one, very interesting!
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Hi Sam, Lovely coaches and the livery is well done. A tat expensive seen the Roco 4 wheel "Donnerbüshe" with far more detail cost around 17€. But we observe dramatic price ++ changes now for most model railroad products. Competition is not necessary negative and might influence pricing. Thanks for reviewing & greetings
Thanks a lot Filip - yes too expensive really for what they are - maybe you're right about the competition... maybe the Hornby terriers would have been more expensive if not?
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You should/must get a dappol class 68 especially tpe there's something about that livery
I've heard they're really good - I'll have to try one some time! :D
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i would love to know where did you get the set of these carriages
well i plan to get them my self with the E2 tank engine
I finally bought one of these. I bought a first class coach off of eBay and After looking at it I can’t seem to find that issue with the oil lamp caps. maybe the eBay seller found it and fixed it? I’m not sure but it’s possible. So far I haven’t experienced any problems with mine yet. Would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants Stroudly coaches but doesn’t want to 1. Wait for the Hatton’s ones or 2. Doesn’t have the budget for the Hattons ones.
Very nice! They're not all forced to have that issue - it's just something I noticed with mine!
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@@SamsTrains by the way when do you think you’ll be doing the review on the Hornby Terrier. I’m very interested in hearing your opinion
bought one of the 6 wheel teak ones with lights and have to say i do really like them, ordered two more so i can have a somewhat okay rake of them, gonna try the hattons ones as well to see which i like more and that one will be in the ncb blue
Ahh fantastic mate - glad to hear you're happy! :D
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I've just received two of the 4 wheel GNR coaches with lights and I think they're fantastic! It's a bit awkward with Hattons though but I've two GWRs on preorder with them so I don't feel too bad!
Ahh sounds great Darrel - sure, whatever you enjoy the most! :D
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Hi Sam I've looked everywhere and I can't find a pannier tank for 00 guage where should I look I've been on hattons hornby and Bachmann
eBay
Hmmm, try the new Bachmann one, otherwise Rapido are about to release some via their UK website, or via Model Rail! :D
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@@SamsTrains thank for that advice I'll have a look
Hey Sam, can't wait for my Hattons Genesis Coaches...I expect they will be of superior Quality. Thanks for your very informative review.
Sounds good mate - I expect so too, but can't say it for sure until I've received my production version... fallen into the trap of drawing conclusions from pre-production samples before! ;D
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Excellent review of the new Hornby LBSCR four wheel coaches 👍👍
I was also surprised that Hornby was going to do these four as well six wheel coaches and I couldn’t believe that they (Hornby) were going to do them.
I was thinking of Hatton’s reaction when Hornby announce that they were going to do the same design carriages.
I’ve also went for the LBSC livery carriages and I’m not waiting for mine to arrive, but excited to run them with my LBSC Terrier (from Hornby) on my layout.
Thanks so much Joe - yes it was a shock release, particularly for Hatton's. Just got to wait and see how Genesis turns out now!
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I'll say these are the ultimate favorite coaches I'll buy these when i start my model railway.
Awesome!! Sounds like a plan! :D
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Lner 6 wheeled ones are fantastic too
A real massive step up from those even more basic, shorter and somewhat toy-like coaches that Hornby been producing for decades. Were these coached made prior to these intended to be accurate to a certain type of branch line coach?
Yeah that's for sure Tomas, much better than those!
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Love These Coaches Looks Very Old Fashioned, Detail Looks Insane And Glad You Got Plenty Of London And Brighton South Coast Railway (LBSC) Locos And Very Suit Them
Yeah me too Alan - loving all the old fashioned coaches!
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Maybe I should get a GWR set
Maybe! Those do look amazing!! :D
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Hi Sam thanks for the help also what would you recommend for a bachman Thomas character
Thank you! Hmm interesting - they're all pretty similar, so it depends what you're looking for!
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Thomas starter set
These coaches look absolutely beautiful 🥰 just like you said they are simple but very effective. The wheels are very interesting. The price also seems decent. The quality is top notch. I can definitely with your rating. I would maybe give the value 3.5 since the paint looks very good to me. Nice review, Sam 👍
They are indeed! I love the wheels too!! :D
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These are lovely. Will defiant try and get these! If I get a few these will be for my Annie and clarabel rws customs.
Hi Sam, Nice review as always , like the coaches (very envious ) not got any LBSC , All the Best Brian 🤗
Thanks a lot Brian - ahh might be time to change that mate!! ;D
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I’ve got those exact three... just in LEGO
haha that's awesome!! :D
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"R40069, nice." hehe
They look nice, although a bit basic for a £30 price tag. I'm tempted by some, although not sure which livery: LBSCR for the old tooled improved engine green terrier, LNWR to go with the coal tank, SR green to go with the BR malachite green terrier, or something else. I'd get a mix of types, without lights, but I'm also interested in some hattons ones too for comparison.
My dapol TPE 68 arrived today, is a little noisy on DC before running in though. And also an EWS 37/4, 411 Ty Hafan also arrived as my 7th 37/4 and my 12th bachmann 37.
haha nice! Yeah I agree, too basic for what they cost, but great looking overall! That sounds good - hopefully it'll get a bit quieter with time?!
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Sam what is that orange/yellow bag thing on the circuit board of Bachmann Thomas engines?
Hmm that must be the capacitor! :D
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'It's a shame Hornby tries to stamp on the smaller companies'
Buys three of 'em
To be fair, he's also probably going to buy three or more of the hattons ones!
haha sure - but I reviewer, I can't just not cover them! xD
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I NEED these coaches in n gauge to go with my Dapol terrier, the Farish teak four wheelers don't really cut the mustard!
Awesome! It would be great to see some in N scale! :O
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Loved the color and painted detail on these coaches. If you ever review the LBSC 70 Thomas, you gotta have him pull these coaches during the running session. :)
Me too - very nicely painted aren't they?! :D
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Hi Sam. Great video as always. Have you reviewed the Hatton's coaches? How do they compare?
Thanks so much - I've looked at samples (which were better), but won't draw any conclusions until I've reviewed production versions from Hatton's!
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The Old Teak's are now called the Railroad Teak's so does this mean that the Old Teak's and old 4 Wheel Coaches are gone?
Yeah that's right - I'd guess they will be yeah, these will probably replace them! Maybe they'll still turn up in train sets though??
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From what I’ve seen it looks good
Yeah! Overall they are good! :D
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I’ve been waiting for you to review these Sam I’ve had high hopes lol
Thanks a lot Harry - me too!! ;D
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Hmm, i debating whether these would fit better in the railroad or railroad plus, then railways range?
Yeah probably - they have that kind of detail!
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I’ve ordered some NBR ones as “through coaches” for my Caledonian Railway set-up. Not feeling guilty about that, though, as Hatton’s have never announced any NBR livery. I’m swithering over what to do about the LNWR “through” coaches, though, as both Hornby and Hatton’s have announced them and they’re both due very soon... It’s great to see the Hornby coaches, though, Sam - thank you for that.
Ahh sounds fantastic - hope you really enjoy yours! Only time will tell on which turns out better!!
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Nice coaches you really did them justice in your review as you always do sam dave
Thanks very much Dave, glad you thought so! :D
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Hello Sam, long time no see.
That is a wonderful review on the brand new Hornby LBSC 4 Wheeled Coaches.
These coaches do look like the real full size ones.
They are Stroudley 4-wheeled coaches built by William Stroudley, who also built the A1x Terriers.
I'm planning to get the full set for my Hornby A1x Terrier Stepney very soon.
Once again, a magnificent review and I respect your opinion.
5 Stars 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
10/10
Thanks so much Jordan, thanks for sharing! Sounds great - hope you enjoy them! :D
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