Township Lessons from the Cape of Good Hope | Gangs, Race and Poverty 20 years after Apartheid Doc

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2014
  • Produced by Michael Fischer | www.michaelfischer.me
    «Township Lessons from the Cape of Good Hope» (2014) tells the story of people living in the Cape Flats area outside of Cape Town, South Africa 20 years after Apartheid.
    How do township residents in slums cope with crime, unemployment and poverty in a country still very much struggling with racism, underdevelopment and inequality?
    If you want to support the portrayed NGO and their projects in Lavender Hill, they are happy to receive your donations: www.philisaabafazi.org
    Deutsch / German:
    «Township Lessons from the Cape of Good Hope» zeigt auf, wie grosse Teile der Bevölkerung Kapstadts auch 20 Jahre nach der Apartheid unter deren Folgen leiden.
    Brutale Gangkriminalität, Armut in informellen Siedlungen und Bewältigung der Rassentrennungsära sind Themen, die im Gespräch mit Bewohnern eines Slums, NGO-Vertretern, Polizisten, Taxifahrern und Gangstern aufgearbeitet werden.
    Entstanden ist ein Film, der neben Hilflosigkeit und Apathie auch einen Funken Hoffnung versprüht.
    Filming and editing:
    Michael Fischer
    www.michaelfischer.me
    / michfischer
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  • @craigsassman1918
    @craigsassman1918 5 лет назад +55

    I grew up in this community, in these very streets. I attended school in Lavender Hill. I made a concious decision that there is a better life for me. I moved out when I was 23, got educated, admitted as an advocate and never looked back. My coloured brothers and sisters need to stop feeling sorry for themselves and waiting on government to give them the things they want in life. It's not going to happen. Create your own destiny.

    • @Mathilda5xp
      @Mathilda5xp 2 года назад +2

      Well said Craig Sassman.

    • @sahiblindberg
      @sahiblindberg Год назад +4

      What you have done is very admirable. However the cold fact is that this is very unlikely possible for the majority. There is a term called "tokenism" which applies quite well. It means that even though some individuals can be able to lift themselves from misery, there are structures that make it practically impossible for the masses.

    • @craigsassman1918
      @craigsassman1918 Год назад

      @@sahiblindberg it is possible for the majority. Moreso now than ever, especially for the youth. There are so many opportunities which were never there during my youth. The ladders to climb out of the pit are right there but its the choices keeping them trapped. The poverty mentality is a hereditary disease being passed down from generation to generation. The cure? Realising that you are not destined to live in poverty and that the government is not reponsible for giving you a comfortable life. Change the mindset and you change the community.

    • @LVC85costa
      @LVC85costa 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@sahiblindbergit's just survivor bias. That's what you see everyday and its this kind of colored they ask for solutions for the rest. So what should I take from it? Move out of the hood? Okay let's all move out of the hood.

  • @loveistheonlywaytogod1994
    @loveistheonlywaytogod1994 5 лет назад +15

    Apartheid was introduced by the British. It was 40 years (too) long and it was wrong in any way you look at it... We moved on. We are all native in South Africa. -We all carry unique DNA as a nation, we are connected. We share the Khoi and San DNA - all of us. We made restitution and paid a heavy price. . Most of us had to start from the bottom again. It was and still is painful, a struggle we now share. That's how it goes. I feel no more debt. Our family went out of our way to help people and still do it to this day. I have never attacked or swore at a black person. I treat them with the respect and the love they deserve. To be honest, we have built a church in a township, free of charge, years ago. I have been advertising for black people for work, free of charge , for years. It's my favorite jop - its borne out of love, and I never even told people before this day. My father sponsored a black medical student, and we took lessons to study Setswana, Xhosa and other languages.
    In SA today, we only do our best and pray for the rest. We refuse to let us feel unwelcome in our own country, we live and let live, we treat people with the utmost respect. We also do not carry hate in our hearts.. Those who find reasons to hate will be hated themselves, in the end. Rather, we live with joy and gratitude to our Creator.

  • @curtisdelor5097
    @curtisdelor5097 6 лет назад +36

    Both Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu said in 2009 that the ANC no longer represented the ANC they fought long and hard for.

    • @romanengelbrecht6717
      @romanengelbrecht6717 3 года назад +2

      Oh you mean Mason's who orchestrated it all from the beginning? 😂😂😂

    • @spannerintheworks1190
      @spannerintheworks1190 3 года назад

      The ANC couldn't wait for Mandela to die so they could reek havoc.

  • @chocochick1238
    @chocochick1238 3 года назад +13

    God bless these inspirational women 🙏 The strength of some of these women would put some of the women in my country to shame, with their complaints about the most trivial of things. Good luck to each and everyone of these people, trying very hard to change things for the better! 👏

  • @wesley-eland
    @wesley-eland 7 лет назад +16

    I worked a little bit in Lavender Hill in a soup kitchen and thank you for giving me a bigger picture of what is going on and making this documentry about it!

    • @luckygoliath1027
      @luckygoliath1027 7 лет назад

      these people vote for white because they want to be white and don't to be close to Africans

  • @Mcgif21
    @Mcgif21 5 лет назад +27

    These people implementing positivity and "light" in these South African townships are truly extraordinary and beautiful people.

    • @dianamincher6479
      @dianamincher6479 3 года назад

      Its time to stop suffering and enjoying life.

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme 9 лет назад +41

    That guy with the garden and guitar is an inspiration.

    • @barbaras5874
      @barbaras5874 6 лет назад +2

      Yes, he is a huge inspiration, living in such terrible conditions and still be focused on positive change and things to make him happy. I wish I could tell him that he is such an inspiration!

    • @rominaceciliaperezponce
      @rominaceciliaperezponce 5 лет назад +1

      Indeed an inspiration, and the kid that wants to be a social worker to help other kids like him, and the women and others that helps the people around, they will make some day the difference, should be more like them.

    • @americainebousonko
      @americainebousonko 4 года назад

      Vim de Zim you mean the guitar Radio

  • @russelhawley7777
    @russelhawley7777 9 лет назад +13

    This documentary is a well-rounded snapshot of a moment in time of a country on the brink of greatness or disaster. Having visited Cape Town for the first time earlier this year, there was a palpable anxiety in the air for the desire to jump this hurdle of change. Everyone I spoke to had a very different perspective on the current state, but generally speaking everyone also still had 'hope' too. I fear that with the loss of the gentle guiding hand of someone like Mandela, the country may not make it through these crucial times - the next few short years will tell if the various communities, governments, and leaders of all stripes will truly come together.
    My heart is with them and their struggle.

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 9 лет назад +8

    I drove by the flats many times while living in Cape Town. South Africa is an amazing country and I can't wait until I go back.

    • @Del-Canada
      @Del-Canada 6 лет назад

      Hi.

    • @blazekabera1865
      @blazekabera1865 6 лет назад +1

      try to take a walk at cape flats ...
      then great my ancestors please .

  • @muimelelimakhanthisa4981
    @muimelelimakhanthisa4981 8 лет назад +15

    "You better close your mouth"
    "I don't know if zuma is for everyone"
    That woman made my day haha

  • @voodoo_child5897
    @voodoo_child5897 7 лет назад +11

    it's so heart warming to hear that girl's hopes at 40:15 of wanting to become a social worker.. kind hearted girl with a kind smile

    • @DerInterpreter
      @DerInterpreter 6 лет назад

      I cried during her interventions. She's so beautiful and sweet.

    • @skorzenygruppen
      @skorzenygruppen 6 лет назад +1

      She;ll end up raped,with burning tires around her neck,this is the Mrs.Mandela technique

  • @estherkusher3460
    @estherkusher3460 8 лет назад +20

    In the past 15 years I have built three houses with practically no money or help. You just do it. Build yourself a decent house, a small one. If you don't know how, then learn. It is no one's responsibility but your own.

    • @amadiouf1485
      @amadiouf1485 4 года назад

      @@judok1426 bulshits as hell

    • @sloeberdoet
      @sloeberdoet 4 года назад

      @@amadiouf1485 This is true. My daughter who is a half cast was for three months in South Africa. She said she didn't felt safe at all. Still a lot of tension, jealousy and other things playing between different races there. Luckily she was staying with a nice muslim woman in an area that was a bit safe. She said beautiful country but it is the people who live in it that make me don't want to live there. Much too dangerous and tensed.

  • @alecbarreto5419
    @alecbarreto5419 9 лет назад +33

    I LOVE the cape coloured accents, i miss it so much....

  • @IRFDeguzman
    @IRFDeguzman 8 лет назад +23

    I'm a South African living abroad for over 21 went back to cape town in 2010 to take care of my mother who was having cancer and just a day before leaving for abroad I got smash and grab my bag with all my papers id's travel documents so I could travel only after a week I receive temporary documents to travel ,,, to be honest I got scared of my own country ... I would love to go back under the apartheid more safe ,, to think that I was one of the victims of the riots in high school in the 1980's it's heart broken

    • @jjjosephr
      @jjjosephr 6 лет назад

      irene deguzman p

    • @jhart7304
      @jhart7304 4 года назад

      @@lwazimorris4973 haha

    • @RikkieMulder
      @RikkieMulder 4 года назад +1

      @@orangegrainsniper5903 Hahaha.... you are a special kind of stupid.

    • @RikkieMulder
      @RikkieMulder 4 года назад +2

      @@lwazimorris4973 Got some facts to back your statement because your feelings don't matter... facts do.

    • @paulelago9453
      @paulelago9453 3 года назад +4

      Black people were killed, imprisoned and discriminated against, you are stupid saying you want to get to Apartheid, because you got robbed FOH.

  • @JeffreyB1983
    @JeffreyB1983 5 лет назад +27

    Positive comment: South African accents are awesome!

  • @joryvandersloot7211
    @joryvandersloot7211 9 лет назад +140

    Thank your precious ANC! for making SA the toilet it is.

    • @tinamadubela2611
      @tinamadubela2611 5 лет назад

      were you forced for the shit u talking?mind ur ass u fool

    • @bauzblak2957
      @bauzblak2957 5 лет назад +1

      Blame the government for your lack of education, responsibility and introspection. Awesome

    • @johnroach1101
      @johnroach1101 5 лет назад +7

      The colonisers rule for 400 years the blacks for 2o years and you blame the blacks

    • @1Rokyro
      @1Rokyro 5 лет назад +3

      Because it was so much better during Apartheid. Well it was, for the whites! Boo-hoo.

    • @TeleComDog-SMS
      @TeleComDog-SMS 5 лет назад +6

      Now South Africa is more equal, more people are suffering.
      If you don't like it, work to uplift ALL of South Africa not just the whites. If whites are required to give back some of their land, it would only be fair.

  • @Lindiwendaba
    @Lindiwendaba 9 лет назад +25

    We need to stop to hate each other because we are all human beings with feelings and apartheid created hate between coloureds and blacks.We need to STOP.

    • @faircove
      @faircove 9 лет назад +6

      Well said...its time to trust each other and build a nation. With luck it might happen when the younger generation that did not experience the past come into power...thats my hope.

    • @RikkieMulder
      @RikkieMulder 4 года назад

      Well I don't hate anyone... it's called growing up and maturing. Its a natural process that happens in a human beings life.

    • @noluthandosibeko2195
      @noluthandosibeko2195 4 месяца назад

      Thank you.

  • @JieFeiLau2801
    @JieFeiLau2801 8 лет назад +18

    A well done documentary. Thank you so much for shedding light on the life people are living in cape town. May God bless them. xx

  • @TrIcKZZ6HD
    @TrIcKZZ6HD 7 лет назад +15

    What a fantastic documentary, very inspiring to see people in the townships being undeterred by the hardships they face while acknowledging them at the same time. Its a pity though that the comments are all about the inadequacy of black rule and not the triumph of the human spirit.

  • @jonathanbock8435
    @jonathanbock8435 9 лет назад +14

    I really enjoy watching this video.. I learned so much about Cape Flats (Cape Town). THANKS!

  • @hanszwiener3549
    @hanszwiener3549 9 лет назад +5

    Thankyou Michael Fischer for that brilliant documentary! I know SA since 1982 and have many friends also among the coloured community, you gave perfect insight into daily life with all the problems and difficulties. Similiar situations you can observe in the Braszilian favelas...

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад +1

      Hans Zwiener Thank you so much!
      If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans5 4 года назад +18

    Africa is an amazing continent. They have all kinds of natural resources and most countries could thrive if they could get it together politically. It's sad to see so much potential unrealized due to corruption and political dysfunction.

  • @MultiMcginty
    @MultiMcginty 6 лет назад +3

    I lived in Capetown for a few months in 2009 when I was working on a project. I enjoyed my time there but the only side I saw of the city was the safe prosperous parts. We passed the Cape Flats on my way from the airport and the person driving said 'don't ever go there'. There was an edginess to the possibility of violent crime too in the South Africans I encountered. They all had electrified fences and huge snarling dogs. I also heard nightmarish tales of violent burglary.

  • @richardviebrock3771
    @richardviebrock3771 9 лет назад +4

    Michael - Amazing! A heart-wrenching yet inspirational story told to its fullest. I'm overwhelmed by how well you were able to shed light onto the hardships of CT, specifically that of Lavender Hill. It's nice to see some work highlighting the other side of Cape Town, the side that typically gets lost in all of the pictures of mountains, beaches, and beautiful homes along the coast.
    From one PAB volunteer to another, great job! I'll be sure to pass this along.

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад

      Richard Viebrock Thank you so much!

  • @kellyjacobs4218
    @kellyjacobs4218 9 лет назад +3

    Well done to Michael Fischer on this brilliant reflection of how life is like for people living on the Cape Flats. We need to all stand together instead of bashing one another.

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад

      Kelly Jacobs Thank you so much!
      If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org

    • @kellyjacobs4218
      @kellyjacobs4218 9 лет назад

      Thank you! Will be in contact with the organisation. Well done once again.

  • @JuanRamirez-ot3ro
    @JuanRamirez-ot3ro 4 года назад +6

    Excellent documentary! I wish to see more documentaries of this kind!

  • @haraldkonrad353
    @haraldkonrad353 5 лет назад +8

    The people interviewed impress me a lot... real, honest, and living in hard circumstances but have a rational and calm manner. It would be easy to live among them. Sadly they are victimized from within, intimidated by gangs and thugs.

  • @bvbocan1
    @bvbocan1 6 лет назад +16

    It's important to note that the people featured in this film do not consider themselves as black. They were categorized as "coloured", and treated better than the blacks. In SA, once you are mixed or asian, you are considered coloured and treated better than the full race blacks.

    • @lwazimorris4973
      @lwazimorris4973 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for being honest. God bless you.

    • @AMan-xy3lx
      @AMan-xy3lx 4 года назад +6

      @Troy Dield Yeah, but population growth is an international problem affecting all the basic resources on a worldwide scale. The issue here is that they are portraying an image of being marginalised by black people when the situation is much more complex. I'd safely say that 90% of the nations which were under colonial power faced a traumatic reality when they got independence. They fought for freedom and never had a chance to look at factors like economic growth and psychological effects of the condition. At most the African continent is rather new when it comes to self rule and mistakes on top of grid and other natured deficiencies are still at play. It's like a baby taking it's first steps. In all honesty most of the southern parts of Africa have handled it rather well in comparison to most places that have gone through colonialism or suppression. This is not a justification, it's the reality. Africa will at some point find it's feet and bring a stop to under the table foreign influence (which is not in any African's best interest) as far as corporate power. The world may judge us for now and paint an image to the world that we are savages and assassinate our character, but we've been through worse and we'll get there. When we do, these people who live with us and shit on the same soil we shit on will come around and call themselves one with us because they are shape shifters... they shift for the better side. It may not be in this generation or the next ( which it actually could in reality, we are making great progress), but it will happen. We are survivors my friend...

  • @martinnugent329
    @martinnugent329 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you to the producers of this wonderfully informative documentary. Amazing to see hope in the eyes and smiles on the faces of those who have so little but offer so much to their community.

  • @alexhayden2303
    @alexhayden2303 4 года назад +4

    Bantu expansion entered South Africa where Swaziland is. That tribe broke off, went to Natal and travelled to
    Eastern Cape, arrived in northern Eastern Cape around 1760, they began crossing the fish river. The
    AmaGaleca tribe was fleeing from AmaRharabe tribe, these Xhosa tribes intermarried with Khoi-Khoi & the
    Khoi helped them drive the bushmen out of the Eastern cape & also fought wars against the frontier settlers
    who were the first in this region prior to any Xhosa ever going there. Confirmed by the Portuguese Ship wreck
    survivors from the 1660s. They only made peace about 5 years ago these 2 Xhosa tribes. The Zulu left
    Swaziland to form Zululand. The other tribes, Venda, Pedi came into the country much later hence why they are
    in the north where the land was empty. The Portuguese have records of no Bantus in South Africa at all, they
    come across the first Bantu at the Rio Cobre river half way up Mozambique.

  • @KingNeutral1
    @KingNeutral1 7 лет назад +58

    I like how every group in South Africa thinks the other has it better!

    • @len2son
      @len2son 5 лет назад +4

      From the evidence in this vid everyone [every 'coloured'] in these shacks are struggling just to live. Cannot imagine anywhere on Earth where people have it worse than this. Where do you live sir?/[ma'am]

    • @xhalanga
      @xhalanga 4 года назад +7

      @@len2son You have never been to Cape Town. Visit here soon and please make sure you do go to the slums. You won't believe what you see when you're here. Mother's and children living in tin shacks which get cold in winter. With no running water or electricity. All of them Black and make about 40% if Cape Town population. Then compare them with where Coloureds and Whites live. Then come back here and tell the same story?

    • @xhalanga
      @xhalanga 4 года назад +1

      It cannot be argued that the White South Africans do have it better than the rest of the other groups. This is the legacy of apartheid which continues to tilt the playground for their benefit. 80% land (and its resources) they confiscated in 1913 has not been returned. They do as they please in that land for their own benefit while everyone else works for them and get paid peanuts. Despite the fact that they're a minority 9% they control everything. The first thing to do is to return the land to the rightful owners so that we Africans can own our Africa and do whatever we want with it for our own benefit. Then we'll be ultimately free regardless of whatever everyone's saying.

    • @lwazimorris4973
      @lwazimorris4973 4 года назад

      Not we think whites are ones having its fruitful not others.

    • @xhalanga
      @xhalanga 4 года назад +1

      @@judok1426 most stupid comment I've ever come across on RUclips

  • @philisaabafazi
    @philisaabafazi 9 лет назад +2

    I am moved looking at the movie once again, I am appreciating the fact Michael Fisher that you were able to come and tell our stories of hartship yet hope, thank you again

  • @Jurica-mtb
    @Jurica-mtb 5 лет назад +3

    18:19 "When the music play I can play along with them."
    What a cool dude. I like his attitude.

  • @avenireducationcenter2902
    @avenireducationcenter2902 9 лет назад +4

    Thank you Michael for charing this ! Really good work !! Hope that the people behind will get the message.

  • @danielfukyouston5319
    @danielfukyouston5319 4 года назад +3

    These ppl seem like good people. With morals and values. I hope their condition improves. They seem like they would appreciate it and like they wanna work. Wish i had the financial means to help. Im gonna start being more appreciative/thankful of what i have.

  • @carisv2834
    @carisv2834 9 лет назад +27

    This is a much needed and honest documentary, representing Cape Town in its truest form. Thank you Mr. Fischer.

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад +2

      Charlene Van Der Byl Thank you, I'm glad you liked it.
      If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org

  • @Mirgeee
    @Mirgeee 3 года назад +3

    39:29 The most touching and inspiring talk I have ever heard from a 13-yo. I wish him the best of luck.

  • @jklxn
    @jklxn 6 лет назад +5

    Just as in any adverse situation, the ones that do best are the ones who say "enough is enough, i decided to make the choice to not be like that"...they took the hard way out...

  • @Zagg777
    @Zagg777 8 лет назад +48

    No one should have expected things to have turned out differently.

    • @theimplacableauthoritarian2938
      @theimplacableauthoritarian2938 7 лет назад

      Its just a learning curve, I don't know why people are getting excited?

    • @twane881
      @twane881 5 лет назад +2

      @@theimplacableauthoritarian2938 lol a learning curve for 24 years??

    • @theimplacableauthoritarian2938
      @theimplacableauthoritarian2938 5 лет назад +2

      Purrin like a Kitten, Do you not know that typically a new university takes about 50 years before people can take it seriously? What more of a country, come on people lets not get too giddy! At 24 were you not being stupid? What more of a country?

    • @twane881
      @twane881 5 лет назад +1

      @@theimplacableauthoritarian2938what a dumb example... white people still gets blamed for everything, not a learning curve to me!

    • @theimplacableauthoritarian2938
      @theimplacableauthoritarian2938 5 лет назад

      @@twane881 Learning curve is not a blame game but is based on a failure rate.

  • @nomazizizembe8662
    @nomazizizembe8662 Год назад +1

    Watching from cape Town cape Town as a township Capetownian I never left the city I c this every day I have stay in township all my life nothing is emproving till this day the slum are getting worse

  • @kahlilsykies9139
    @kahlilsykies9139 9 лет назад +53

    This is a very telling documentary , though I'm American the issues of race politics and economics this documentary focuses on apply here too. Diversity and multicultralism for various reasons are difficult to manage , though politically incorrect to say so. There isn't a successful example in the world. For those familiar with Canada and or Brazil and the issues they face when dealing with race. Though of coarse many other people in multiracial societies live life in harmony with others , some befriend date marry people of other ethnicities and or prefer to live in multi racial societies. But the unspoken honest truth is that living in a post colonial multiracial multi ethnic society brings about many challenges that have yet to be solved. And often make one ask if thought hard enough about , if they can be solved. If people can't handle respecting tolerating and feeling comfortable around people of different ethnic groups as well as government and judicial systems providing equal treatment , then societal diversity will continue to be like a functioning drug addict. I love true honest media like this , it's a cold world. This represents social and societal truth not only for South Africa but other multicultural countries like here in America too , good piece.

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 9 лет назад +2

      Homogenous societies are the only long term sustainable model.

    • @kahlilsykies9139
      @kahlilsykies9139 9 лет назад +2

      Gregory Malchuk Many many would agree. Living in America , especially here in California , being ethnically homogenous just isn't a reality. But as far as social sustainability , I do agree. I'm a none racist person , I'm also a person given to much deep thought. Social diversity for many , not all people causes or results in unwanted friction and tension , willful segregation indeed. Even when one looks at societies that are monoracial but ethnically diverse such as India , Philippines and anywhere else with such diversity there are the same problems. But since these are realities it's really a great idea to actually make living conditions as fair and comfortable for everyone with dialogue regarding the differences of different groups , more could be done to improve the social climate of multi ethnic societies. Hey I'm a black guy who would go crazy without Mexican food. Plus I need some Indian food here and there too. So for people like me , making the best out of a multi ethnic is of interest. It was really cool to see people actually talking about these things in South Africa. Because it doesn't happen here in America. Sometimes we have to try to make the best out of what we have to work with and the situation we have.

    • @deanbooysen8101
      @deanbooysen8101 9 лет назад +4

      Kahlil Sykies Dearest friend, the liberation movement in South Africa spoke of non-racialism (Black consciousness movement) not multiculturalism (Rainbow nation). This embraces diversity by definition, but somewhere among the rhetoric we lost this critical element. Secondly, the liberation was political and not economic. So we find now, in South Africa, what is called economic apartheid. The 400 years of colonialism and apartheid clearly shifted economic, cultural and political capital in the hands of the European settlers. Hence the notion of white privilege. This infusion and confusion together with the neo-liberal capitalist agendas makes any initiative to change disabled. I am optimistic ,as a South African, that we can overcome. Not sure how, but positive non the less,

    • @kahlilsykies9139
      @kahlilsykies9139 9 лет назад

      Dean Booysen I think post Mandela presidency ended the ( Rainbow nation ) ideal , am I wrong by you're view ?. It seems to me the current and former president since Mandela have had a whole different agenda for South Africa. Since Mandela I agree black consciousness/cultural movement not multiculturalism has been the agenda of ruling political black South Africans. Much like here in America a veil of multiculturalism is used through media and so forth but the system here is designed to cater to white Americans , while only creating enclaves and in some cases maintaning significant areas for wich other ethnic and racial Americans can express and advertise their culture. It seems from all I've seen of South Africa to be at least very simular , am I wrong ?. America is supposed to welcome equally people of all races ethnicities cultures and religions in the modern times we live in. But gives the clear advantage in " privilege " " upward mobility " to white Americans despite preaching the opposite. But what makes the situation more complicated is the often friction between significant numbers of people of different ethnic groups , black/white white/Hispanic black/Hispanic or between born Americans of immigrant groups Ethiopian/Eritrean Ethiopian/Somalian. Many Americans now live in Cities and Towns with ethnic diversity yet often live in mono ethnic neighborhoods and often schools , while many do , many don't communicate with people of other ethnicities outside the work force , if you actually have a job now days. Segregation by choice , population demographic and income has become the pervasive reality here most commonly observed. But I've meat and made friends and aquaintances with people of all races. I think dialogue , being able to talk about the issues in relations to race and ethnicity are the starting points for any multi-ethnic society to really function full force. South Africa is a country I think has made profound progress in a very short period. I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't true how much progress has been made since 1994. I think the fact so much positive has happened since the end of apartheid is much reason to be optimistic. Just this here and the series " Debate " is something that's still just too uncomfortable for many people here in America , and we've all been walking to , eating at , going to school where we please , except the deep south states since the 1870's with limited exceptions elsewhere. I'd say South Africa with the short cummings it does have also might have a lot to look forward to as well , never know.

    • @deanbooysen8101
      @deanbooysen8101 9 лет назад +3

      Hey Kahlil thanks for the response, much appreciated. The transition from apartheid to democracy was negotiated and is constantly negotiated. Mandela and his successors were and are constrained by this same power brokerage. So we can blame whatever on them it won't change much. You are right, the same pattern is present in SA wrt the rhetoric of multiculturalism. America has thought our hegemonic leaders the 'talk left, walk right' approach very well. As seen by them both funding the apartheid government and strongly criticising it at the same time. The friction amongst people is the result of mass media campaigns... In my oppinion, humans in general abuse the use of adjectives (black, white, Indian, gay, Muslim, etc.) when speaking about humans... It's a case of ignorance and scientific illiteracy. Science has disproved the notion of 'race' as not having any empirical basis. I agree with you, dialogue is essential and I admire your efforts. Indeed this will end someday, but judging by comment sections on posts related to racial issues... We have some strange perspectives in our world. Lol peace

  • @hellowaves
    @hellowaves 9 лет назад +21

    Great documentary, living overseas now due to leaving SA because of the crime. My wife said today, she will never go back to SA to live, the crime is severe. I'm the white boy from the wrong side of the tracks, she an affluent coloured - the irony is hilarious!

    • @afrikaazanialuti
      @afrikaazanialuti 9 лет назад +5

      You are right the crime in SA is a problem, I am happy for you & your wife, However SA is a dramatically different place today than it was 10 years ago, although more needs to be done much has already been accomplished. Poverty & violence are not unique to SA I find the same challenges here in DC.

    • @hellowaves
      @hellowaves 9 лет назад +12

      Dramatically different for all the wrong reasons. Look at what happened in Parliament yesterday. It is not called a congress of baboons for nothing. The ANC have ruined SA, heading the same way as Zim's, even Zim's ex-patriots say that and these are my Shona bud. I left SA 4 years ago, been back several times, believe it or not, SA is more expensive than the UK!

    • @afrikaazanialuti
      @afrikaazanialuti 9 лет назад

      Nh Swine Oh okay... 62.15% of the population would disagree with you though...

    • @hasanx4637
      @hasanx4637 9 лет назад +7

      good for you! I think more people like you should leave South Africa! Everyone else is welcome.

    • @hellowaves
      @hellowaves 9 лет назад +7

      You just jealous I had the opportunity to leave and you are unfortunately stuck in the now banana republic (except Cape Town, it is still run by the DA and the best part of South Africa!).

  • @tshepim3368
    @tshepim3368 2 года назад +1

    I love watching these documentaries just to understand the other side of life and how the life they're living came about, instead of judging.
    But as a soft heart person, these documentaries always depresses me.. Hence I wish I had the powers to change their situation💔

  • @whatsonhermind1768
    @whatsonhermind1768 8 лет назад +1

    I really like this, I'm American and I never realized how apartheid must still be affecting the social structure of South Africa. It is terribly sad to see people living in poverty and not being able to feel safe in their community, but I really respect the work people like the social worker are doing and also how the police want to be seen as someone you could come to for assistance and not an intimidating force

    • @saraallison9469
      @saraallison9469 8 лет назад

      It's the colored people who suffer the most. Africans are at the top. I am from sa

  • @nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe
    @nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe 9 лет назад +4

    There are so many programs that can help communities around South Africa; with public private partnership; ordinary people voluntering their time to uplift their community and their skills. What we need is the spirit of service to help our communities. Grassroot level organizations and NGO's are the way forward, drug rehabilitation programs, education programs and communities organizing themselves for community safety and cleaning; the government has a role to play yes...but the bigger role should come from the people mobalizing themselves. The goverments role is providing the resources for the grassroot level organizations and NGO's to function. Apartheid did a lot to people; including telling them that they were powerless to make positive changes in their communities. I think mental health should also be put at the forefront; because there are many people that are also struggling with depression in communities like Lavender Hill in CPT, Alexander Township in JHB, Orange Farm in the VAAL etc. And community gardens and parks are some of the initiatives that local government can also help to fund. I dont the solution is giving up; its every South Africans responsibility to help; those that are blessed with more should help to give back to their communities.

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад +1

      nonhlanhla precious Radebe Thank you for your comment!
      If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the NGO Philisa Abafazi in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org

  • @jessiedavis4407
    @jessiedavis4407 9 лет назад +3

    This was really worth the watch. Great way to gain insight

  • @jeanoliver3573
    @jeanoliver3573 5 лет назад +2

    Very sad I had no idea heart sore to see my fellow SA brothers and sisters suffer may God be with you all in my thoughts and prayers

  • @awayfarersdiary2642
    @awayfarersdiary2642 5 лет назад +1

    Great movie! I know I've seen it some time ago, I can remember it. Thanks for depicting the situation and telling what's going on.

  • @thunder852za
    @thunder852za 7 лет назад +4

    Just one comment, the informal settlements in Cape Town are growing, but its because the city has one of the lowest unemployment rates in SA, and thus people come for work. The city struggles to keep up with the influx of people from the Eastern Cape. I expected this documentary to mention this. Hopefully this will slow now that DA has taken over NMB.

  • @OzzieOzzieOzzieOyOyOy
    @OzzieOzzieOzzieOyOyOy 6 лет назад +56

    Cape of Good Hope? Seems more like the 'Cape of No Hope.'

    • @TeleComDog-SMS
      @TeleComDog-SMS 5 лет назад +4

      Yes it was better for the white people.
      The question is what's it gonna take to make it better for ALL or the majority of South Africa and why haven't they done that yet?
      Right now it seems to be sucking for everybody, kind of fair in a strange way.

    • @siloemascolo2769
      @siloemascolo2769 4 года назад +2

      Bartolomeu Dias called it "Cabo das Tormentas" or Cape of the Storms but the king of Portugal was affraid that this name would change the idea of the next navigator to reach India so he changed the name to Cabo da Boa Esperança.

  • @ziniahaywood1008
    @ziniahaywood1008 6 лет назад +2

    I love that the Abafazi Bethu program had been extended to include boys and young men - because there's no progress without a full-blown girl- and boy-child re-education.

  • @idontknowanymore7689
    @idontknowanymore7689 2 года назад +1

    As a coloured learning your history and the culture and how coloureds were in a sense brewed is so interesting and kind of fulfilling.

  • @ZahaMagic
    @ZahaMagic 7 лет назад +3

    As long people in communities keep relying on the government or the police to fix their problem, the problem will continue. I do believe that there are police officers who want the best for the communities, the people of the communities have to participate. We need to want better for ourselves. Focus on solutions not the problem.

  • @fieldsofgold775
    @fieldsofgold775 7 лет назад +4

    Very informative.Such hardship for these people.

  • @heathermaich8966
    @heathermaich8966 6 лет назад +2

    Amazing people interviewed. Thank you

  • @rebeccasreflections4947
    @rebeccasreflections4947 7 лет назад +1

    I absolutely adore this video.. 💕 such a touching doccie of the Cape complexities.

  • @mpodumo
    @mpodumo 9 лет назад +5

    Dear Lucinder you are doing a great work

  • @xx1590
    @xx1590 8 лет назад +41

    It amazes me that anyone expected anything different.

    • @len2son
      @len2son 5 лет назад +1

      Well where were YOU when all the solutions were needed?

  • @andrewrobertson3894
    @andrewrobertson3894 6 лет назад +68

    Forgive my ignorance but why don't these black communities do something themselves to change their lot in life? They could build better housing than those shacks, they could paint public spaces, clean the trash away, plant communal vegetable gardens, team up and dispose of these drug dealers and bandits... Can they not do that, at least? Or am I so wrong?

    • @barbaras5874
      @barbaras5874 6 лет назад +15

      I thought this exactly as I watched it. Until people take responsibility for their lives and communities and focus their minds on positive change, nothing will change. Saying how terrible everything is and blaming other races, will never improve anything. It is a terrible situation they are in, but they must come together and build something better for their children. Someone else is not going to do it for them. They need to move on from race and blame.

    • @jasonthandononjela3191
      @jasonthandononjela3191 6 лет назад +8

      Forgive my ignorance but why don't these Coloured communities do something themselves to change their lot in life? They could build better housing than those shacks, they could paint public spaces, clean the trash away, plant communal vegetable gardens, team up and dispose of these drug dealers and bandits... Can they not do that, at least? Or am I so wrong?

    • @awesomewelles9174
      @awesomewelles9174 5 лет назад +2

      People are streaming in from other parts of the country, especially from the eastern part of the country, to the Cape.

    • @awesomewelles9174
      @awesomewelles9174 5 лет назад

      Coz its the only place where theres a semblance of service delivery

    • @f19ure
      @f19ure 5 лет назад +5

      Many of these people in the doc are actually "coloured," and not black.

  • @ledeol5605
    @ledeol5605 7 лет назад +2

    Very good documentary. Visiting Capetown I met a few people who told me the real city was behind the mountain. That was true. Like in Brazil, poor and coloured/Black have no opportunities to change their violent/unjust reality, without a compensation plan for the next generation.

    • @lwazimorris4973
      @lwazimorris4973 4 года назад

      Bullshit!!..whites people are reason why blacks/coloureds are living in these conditions. And its hard for current government to fix what apartheid did and its needed trillions to do do. so considering economy of the country that huge sum will never be produced. you guys hate blacks to core. y'all don't have sympathy to blacks lives.

  • @candykittens5611
    @candykittens5611 7 лет назад +8

    How can someone from a different race/group define who you are? That is the problem. No one from another race has the right to tell you who you are and what you should be. That was one of the indigenous's people's biggest mistakes. When you allow someone from outside of your race to define you, they have conquered yo and will continue to rule over you for centuries.

  • @RehabNowSouthAfrica
    @RehabNowSouthAfrica 9 лет назад +5

    Very good documentary.

  • @nomazizizembe8662
    @nomazizizembe8662 Год назад

    Watching from Cape town South Africa I have stay all my life in township I C this every day

  • @silvercloud1276
    @silvercloud1276 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks, for this interesting and educational video Michael !!

  • @heresthething9173
    @heresthething9173 8 лет назад +4

    Some remarkable stories in this documentary.

  • @teenieneenie630
    @teenieneenie630 7 лет назад +4

    Excellent documentary!

  • @vangoghmatisse1
    @vangoghmatisse1 6 лет назад +1

    Very informative this video was. I've learned so much.

  • @MrBlackbamboo
    @MrBlackbamboo 7 лет назад +11

    I lived in SA during apartheid all race had jobs also was safe to walk about at night. I left SA 5 year before Mandela was in power, then went back to live 7 years later my god the street were not safe. went to work come home to an empty house 'Robbed' went to police we were informed we were number 13 to be robbed in two days

  • @peterrooke5336
    @peterrooke5336 4 года назад +4

    Get well soon South Africa ❤️

  • @fernandomargellan3176
    @fernandomargellan3176 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks alot even the so called most advanced country US people still live in poverty , in Europe there is poverty, in China there is also poverty in Australia there exists poverty which south Africa is not an exception to .
    But Africa shall rise

  • @DailyDoseofDillanJ
    @DailyDoseofDillanJ 6 лет назад +2

    Alot of us coloured don't know we all have atleast 3% Khoi San blood an we not black at all. We have so much history that we were the first ones here in South Africa but Anc will make sure they in power because they don't want our history to take over. We royalty. ANC Also wouldn't want the history to fade away so they will remain in power! This is facts. Right now there is a movement that's taking place! Lets support it.

    • @blazekabera1865
      @blazekabera1865 6 лет назад

      what history kkkkkkkkkk?????
      coloureds are MIXED FINISHED CLAR .
      if not black then get that fuck out of Africa
      because never heard SUCH RACE

    • @AMan-xy3lx
      @AMan-xy3lx 4 года назад

      Dude khoisan people fall under the negroid which means they fall under the black side of the race spectrum. Coloureds are a mix... just like Hispanics... the main races are negoid (black people) Caucasiod (white people) and mongoloid (asians). So yeah, you're half black...the other half of you also considers you black...black people consider you black. Now what you consider yourself is your problem but i suggest you play for the accepting side 😂...or stick on your own then start complaining about your imaginary problems that only you face!

  • @stevenwilliams1497
    @stevenwilliams1497 5 лет назад +1

    What an inspiring doco god bless you all.

  • @malcolmcampbell1968
    @malcolmcampbell1968 5 лет назад +3

    It's horrific how humans treat each other it really is...

  • @__SM__1
    @__SM__1 9 лет назад +10

    Thanks for the upload.. kid at 39:33 has a smart future I hope. she looks like a smart one

    • @mich8589
      @mich8589  9 лет назад +2

      SID MIC Hi! If you want to support the portrayed people the best way is to directly donate to the Philisa Abafazi projects in Lavender Hill, Cape Town: www.philisaabafazi.org

    • @michaelseven9719
      @michaelseven9719 7 лет назад

      The solution stares us in the face ....lets not be foolish enough to forget the legacy of apartheid ....but lets look ahead to the future (blame and anger which serve no useful purpose) should be set aside and we must work together to solve and build a better future for all ... its not that hard(set aside the big "I" and look toward the Greater "we".

  • @jessicaread4880
    @jessicaread4880 6 лет назад

    some really beautiful people, thank you for sharing xJes

  • @isaaccpt6643
    @isaaccpt6643 4 года назад +1

    Great video so moving!

  • @starleenasims5203
    @starleenasims5203 6 лет назад +3

    You see what actually happend after Apartheid is that not just black people suffer, white people in africa suffer to. Both races suffer and I feel like both races should be equal.

  • @AnnBoylen
    @AnnBoylen 7 лет назад +3

    2 Peace officers in one sector? We have that many in one block in Manhattan! This is just atrocious.

  • @godzilladestroyscities1757
    @godzilladestroyscities1757 6 лет назад +2

    It's odd that so many documentaries have people saying things were better under apartheid. The conditions in SA apparently have been getting worse.
    When the USSR fell, many Russians said things were better under communism than the chaos that existed after the first few years. Now things appear to be as good as they're going to get in Russia.

    • @AMan-xy3lx
      @AMan-xy3lx 4 года назад

      It's as odd as coming to Asia and everyone think we live in trees in Africa... it's called propaganda.

  • @lotus5791
    @lotus5791 5 лет назад +1

    I hope things will get better for South Africa and its people.

  • @calebalban143
    @calebalban143 6 лет назад +2

    The guy with the garden is a legend

  • @willy34561
    @willy34561 9 лет назад +3

    this guy hanging out of the taxi looks like R.Kelly.I lm from c.town with all our heartships I still think its a great place compare to here in brazil where I find myself now.crime here is ten times more as well as discrimination against black and people of colour.im missing s,a. hope to return soon.brazil is like apartheid south Africa I know im 43 years old and know the system.

  • @harrybeau1712
    @harrybeau1712 2 года назад +1

    That poor woman with tears in her eyes - The unfairness, the inequality, the lack of compassion in a country which could give them basic but proper housing - and how many billionaires are there in the world?

  • @barbarasunday3514
    @barbarasunday3514 3 года назад +1

    If American children were being taught about this, maybe they would not take so much for granted.. I have seen homeless camps but in most of my country we are so blessed

  • @THE.REAL.CHOPPER
    @THE.REAL.CHOPPER 4 года назад +3

    This is what I've been saying for the past few years..... If only I could say what I REALLY wanted to as a coloured man. I will say as a person of colour that CAPE TOWN was in habited 1st by the khoi (coloured).

    • @agrid2608
      @agrid2608 3 года назад +2

      khoi doesn't equal Coloured. Cape Town Coloureds are overwhelmingly Asian-African creoles. Many don't even have any hunter-gatherer genetics.
      *Quantitatively* the genetic testing shows (as does history) that most of the original pastoral Khoi clans were absorbed into the Xhosa umbrella.
      Some of the genes are in the tswana and coloured as well.

    • @THE.REAL.CHOPPER
      @THE.REAL.CHOPPER 3 года назад +2

      Where the heck does Asian come in, do some more research.... You were are on the right track but somewhere along the line took major left turn, coloured culture has come from watering down of this continents 1st inhabitants mainly by the British.... Personal ill hunt an gather the fuck outta any terrain you put me in so I quantitatively believe have no believe in ur comment

    • @agrid2608
      @agrid2608 3 года назад +2

      @@THE.REAL.CHOPPER If you don't know that Cape Town "Coloured" residents consist of slaves brought in by the Dutch East India company from the Dutch East Indies (modern day Indonesia) starting from 1652 intermingled with slaves from Madagascar, Mozambique and Angola, as well as mixed with local Xhosa over the last few centuries then perhaps you need to do a little more research about our country.

    • @liampetersen7548
      @liampetersen7548 3 года назад +2

      @@agrid2608 moenie Kak praat

    • @agrid2608
      @agrid2608 3 года назад +2

      @@liampetersen7548 Problem with truth apparently. Read some history.
      Start with the Hasselt and the Amersfoort in 1658.

  • @richardlitwin4046
    @richardlitwin4046 8 лет назад +19

    Autonomy for the Western Cape!

    • @anyalecawale635
      @anyalecawale635 6 лет назад +1

      Richard Hillier-Hillson never, your're finished

  • @americainebousonko
    @americainebousonko 4 года назад +2

    I like the guitar Radio

  • @krball56
    @krball56 3 года назад +2

    The main problem is that people expect the govt to uplift them and provide all for free and the people just sit and wait. No proper education is given ...

    • @paulelago9453
      @paulelago9453 3 года назад

      Dumb comment, the government controls most of the factors of production. If these people decided they want to farm and produce their own food, they couldn't because the land is owned by government.

    • @krball56
      @krball56 3 года назад

      @@paulelago9453 are you stoned?

  • @adelarsen9776
    @adelarsen9776 6 лет назад +26

    Since Mugabe, Mandela and Black Empowerment came to power life is more prosperous.
    Can anyone spot the mistake in that sentence ?

    • @augustineminimbi5668
      @augustineminimbi5668 5 лет назад +3

      You

    • @smangamhlongo7565
      @smangamhlongo7565 5 лет назад +6

      The biggest mistake we made is by letting u and your people stay after 1994

    • @len2son
      @len2son 5 лет назад +2

      @@smangamhlongo7565 Where was he supposed to go? Countries won't just take people because we don't want them anymore.

    • @judok1426
      @judok1426 4 года назад +2

      @@smangamhlongo7565 lol racist.

    • @izakizakizak1234
      @izakizakizak1234 4 года назад

      yes, you gave credit to a black. fucking stupid. but i know you're sarcastic. I'm realistic

  • @frederikkhlert2863
    @frederikkhlert2863 7 лет назад +8

    Anyone who wants to write a small resume on this documentary?

  • @baracka112
    @baracka112 6 лет назад +1

    Cape Town if you've ever gone there, could easily be a world class city. I've never gone to a city that has it's landscape. Too bad the people that live there are like this. Even if you go on long street at night you have to be careful as there's a lot of people who can hassle you

    • @dro258
      @dro258 3 года назад

      You just a poes in the City

  • @touraneindanke
    @touraneindanke 4 года назад +1

    Went there on vacation and did bring my money and respect with me!
    That was a waste of time.
    So many more places to visit where you are respected.

  • @nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe
    @nonhlanhlapreciousRadebe 9 лет назад +20

    The only way forward is with grassroot level organizations and the community; sadly the government is not the solution.

    • @MrSpringbokfan
      @MrSpringbokfan 8 лет назад +1

      The only way forward is with the reinstitution of white rule.

    • @mariansaldo1
      @mariansaldo1 5 лет назад +2

      Government is never the solution to anything. Ever. People across the globe have got to realize this.

    • @dudeman5234
      @dudeman5234 5 лет назад

      @@MrSpringbokfan ,sorry but that will never happen ,there never be any white rule in any south Africa and African countries

    • @RikkieMulder
      @RikkieMulder 4 года назад

      @@dudeman5234 never is a strong word, especially when its been proved wrong plenty of times before.

    • @dudeman5234
      @dudeman5234 4 года назад

      @@RikkieMulder never means never and nothing more

  • @sibusisosiso9727
    @sibusisosiso9727 6 лет назад +7

    What I know in cpt a black person can't walk freely in a coloured area if his or her unknown but coloureds r walking freely in gugulethu langa philippi khayelitsha In all black townships so this says a lot bout coloured mentality

    • @joeday397
      @joeday397 4 года назад

      Nobody can safely walk in any area they dont know....easy targets by doing so

  • @jeremyfyffer9025
    @jeremyfyffer9025 Год назад +1

    This video is so relevant now

  • @janaexo.107
    @janaexo.107 2 года назад

    0:43 , this really brought me to tears , joh , life is so unfair , I can't.......🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

    • @patagonia8084
      @patagonia8084 Год назад +2

      Me 2 faaar away from RSA i cryed. Huggs to all the people seen on the video.
      much ❤ from France

  • @OlizerVanAntoninus
    @OlizerVanAntoninus 8 лет назад +3

    I believe when the Israelis and the Palestinians embrace and love one
    another and invite each other into their hearts and hearths then the
    world's children will finally all dance in fields of sunflowers and we
    will all love and live together as one big loving family.

  • @romanzolenski3899
    @romanzolenski3899 7 лет назад +3

    *That door man SHOULD be the president of South Africa*

  • @chokkan7
    @chokkan7 3 года назад +1

    When I watch a doc like this, and listen to people complain about a lack of equality, then I start to wonder if their notion of equality is that we're all someday reduced to wallowing in the same sty.

  • @nikitamunnik1409
    @nikitamunnik1409 7 лет назад +4

    I am born in 1998 so am born free
    My mom and and dad divorced and mom married a tswana man they got a son jaded he says he wants to be president just wondering how life would be like in south Africa with a coloured president

    • @rjc6398
      @rjc6398 7 лет назад +2

      +Nikita Munnik I would vote for him, He is propably more qualified for president than Zuma is

    • @GOOutdoorsDiscrimination2
      @GOOutdoorsDiscrimination2 6 лет назад

      Nikita Munnik Baby, Praise God for your parents as you were born free but born beautiful also ;)