House - Everything but the Kitchen Sink (Part 5 of 6)
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RUclips was like “Hey. You wanna watch a 3 hour 6 part special of some dude talking about House?” Yes. Yes I do
Glad to see not much has changed on RUclips this last year
Ive watched through it multiple times. Its just good tv 😉
I’m just surprised it took this long for the algorithm to show me this. I loved House
Yes I do❤
If Part 6’s thumbnail doesn’t have Wilson, We riot.
It does - he previewed all 6 thumbnails in the first episode. All good.
thank god
It's gotta be part of the social contract by now.
Saving the best for last.
Seeing as Part 6 should go over Season 8 which is the season revolving around Wilson having cancer....
"I slept with her." "Seriously?" "No." "Yes, you did!" "Yes, I did." "Seriously?!" "No."
God, I'd forgotten these moments but it's stuff like this that made me love this show. Even cut from context it still makes me smile.
I love that Wilson was able to fool House, it feels so right. Also the moment is approximately 30% funnier than it has any right to be solely thanks to Robert Sean Leonard's way of saying "no".
it's just perfect character work. House can usually seem him lying from across the room with one eye closed but because this hits so close to home and actually frightens him as a possibility he's flailing and helpless. It's so good!
I love the subplot of House teaching Rachel to play with toys so she can get in the fancy school, when she's asked if she ever played with the toys, she lied and House feels like a proud father.
lied about playing with toys… to get into a fancy school…….?
@@dreesemo3323
As I recall, it was a Kindergarten for gifted children. When applying to the place, the kids are given various "Smart"/puzzle toys, to sort of test the children logical thinking. House managed to enter the place before the appointment, to find out which toys are being used there in order to train Rachel for it (Which initially she did quite horribly with). When the day came, Rachel did TOO well making the people working their suspect she was actually trained for this application, Rachel was asked about it and lied about it, claiming this is her first time playing with those toys. Someone so young usually wouldn't be capable of lying about something like this. Which made House quite proud.
@@DaniTheHerothat’s literally what he said hahahahahahaha
You know what feels wrong and cheap about Cuddy leaving House? When she decides to go to him and declares her feelings for him, she knows what she is in for. He even says "I am the most screwed up person in the world". You'd think she would be more comprehensive when House has a fall back to vicodin. One miss step and she bails? That... no. That is not.
She even says" it's your choice to go back on drugs"
The scene between Cuddy and House before Broken where House realises he's hallucinating is my absolute favorite scene from House
Such a mind fuck too; Especially since even in moments of hallucination the audience usually has house's lucid mind to explain what's happening. That and Hugh Laurie's acting sold it tremendously. He's just as hurt and confused as the audience at that point.
My favorite scene is from the episode with the Horn player, when House explains to Foreman why he treats him (holds him accountable) the way he does.
He also forgot to include the episode where cuddy almost kills her handyman cause she is shitty as hell as a doctor and hasn't been one fr years rose right to the top and enjoys being a boss and in control then being a doctor
I love how Cuddy reacted to it. She's upset with him yet the moment she realizes something is wrong with House, she drops it immediately and is extremely worried instead. She doesn't blame him for not being in his right mind, and doesn't think their reputation, or inappropriate behavior, is more important than his well being.
Maybe they don't deserve credit for bare minimum, but its quite rare to have an older male protagonist who's love interest is actually about his age. Cuddy is gorgeous but she doesn't look super young. And of course she wouldn't be with her high level position. But so many films and shows would cast her as a hot 28 year old instead.
They are closer in age, but are on different maturity levels
YES, I really appreciated the comparable age. It drives me nuts how men in their 40s-60s are continually portrayed with love interests who are in their early 20s. Like the relatively unbelievable storyline with Taub. :P
The actress’ ass is also a 10/10 despite her not being in her 20’s.
@@joannamarieart
It's potrayed like that because it's also true in reality.
Attractive woman, back then and especially new days prefer older men, though not for the same romanatic reasons.
They have more money, more status and more experience in many things.
Love in 2020/2021 is not about emotions but about gain/loss calculations.
Why would a 21 year old attractive girl date one of her peers, when he's still on college, pennyless and still isn't numb from his hobbies (hence less time for her, such as sports, video games, shooting pool with friends etc). She could date a 40 year old, that still looks attractive (because men don't physically age as poorly as most women), has money ( old enough to get a permanent job and be promoted in it), already has experience in many aspects (more partners so better in bed, knows how to fix things because living on your own for a long time brings you these skills along with other real life smarts) and doesn't really have many hobbies they care about left because life got in the way.
This is also clearly seen by any dating site statistics. Most women find most men completely invisible. 80% of the women only swipe right on about 20-10% of the men, and even after the intial like, only even get anywhere with a fraction of that amount small amount as well.
Modern dating no longer has fairytale love stories. Unless it's some childhood love story that didn't see a bad ending, men want to date attractive (young) women who aren't crazy/annoying and women want to date men who are attractive, atheltic, funny, with a good circle of friends, good job ( A lot of money) , mysterious ( the bad boy that they can chase and find out more and more about), tall , ambitious, educated ( has to be some white collar suit wearing guy, wouldn't want to date the dirty clothes plumber!) aggressive enough to take charge of things but not too much that she feels like she has no say, and more and more and more and more.
How many women do you know that are dating/married to someone who is "lesser" to them?
Any girl that wears enough makeup and doesn't weigh more than 70KG can download Tinder, or any dating up, get about 100 likes a week (at least) and then it's just a matter of how many dates you are willing to go through. Most guys will drive to her and pick her up, Pay for most expenses ( Where's the equality and independed story woman becomes part of this again?) and the guys areoverall left with playing a game of "pick the right dialogue options" to progress.
The social circle that was supposed to be limited to your school/college/work place, now transitioned to a swipe away for anyone in your country/state.
The results of this behavior are clearly showing. Record high amount of single people, record high divorces ( and obviously breakups of couples before they reach that stage), increase in women promiscuity as they sleep around and have a body count higher of the amount of times i touch myself (Which they rack up by only putting out to those of the 20-10% that usually don't even want a relationship with them to begin with), single motherhood increase, population decrease in western countries that pushed these ideas (Or more accurately decrease in the native population, the 2nd/3rd world migrants still bring a lot of children and usually don't break easily), overall fertility decrease.
These are all facts, most of which practically anyones that isn't living in a cave knows about. but acknowledging any of this gets you the name calling : Sexist, xenophobe , incel , far right, bla bla bla.
I don't mind age gap relationships in TV shows but yeah, I'm glad they didn't go down the House and Cameron route, for example.
I’m so excited for Wilson’s final part, this series is incredible
Wilson got done dirty by the final season.
Crashing the car into the house definitely seems more in line with something the writers wanted to do than the character himself. Realistically speaking (as far as the show is concerned) it would've made more sense if house just didn't return to the hospital or the next day he starts berating cuddy with vague insults and complaints because while House can be a huge jerk some times, I doubt he would actually do something as full blown as property damage AND at the risk of killing people in the process. It just feels like a very rushed excuse to get him into jail.
especially since he was in love with Stacy and he didn't do anything to her, then he got in love with the girl in Mayfield, he didn't do anything to her, but here I guess they wanted a reason to put him in jail and to end Cuddy's carrier since Elsa didn't want to continue playing Cuddy
I think you have to view it in the context of House being the ultimate logician, even if that is based on some faulty logic. Here, I think it goes I'm angry, therefore I want to punish Cuddy... now. I don't think it's any more or less than the angst Jesse mentioned and honestly I think it's kind of appropriate. If the story is going to go beyond House getting clean, I personally don't hate this turn.
You have forgotten the last season were House committed felonies and illegal things, to solve his cases? Or when he defied ethical dilemmas only to save a patient. Crashing his car into Cuddy House is very well into his character, this relationship was doomed from the start, was toxic from the start, I have no idea what was in the writers minds when they had this idea. Maybe they think that they could made a relationship as toxic as Sherlock Holmes and Irene Addler.
Exactly he loves Cuddy and I think has some love in his heart for Rachel. You're telling me he wouldn't consider what might happen if either one of them just so happen to walk into the room at the wrong time? I didn't really like it
@@AvastarBin Also the fact Wilson left House just like Cuddy before and even told him they’re not friends anymore and House took it way more calmly than when Cuddy broke up with him. Drama.
Is house breaking the bottle scripted? I mean, I always figured it was, but hugh laurie shines through so much in that moment... his phrasing and demeanor... and we know because of bloopers that he doesnt lose the accent instantly if something goes wrong, so... I don't know, does anyone feel like that too? It's just so very hugh right there
I always liked to think it wasn’t scripted
feels like it wasnt, especially since the camera that was presumably hit by the bottle shakes at the end, since the camera operator was probably laughing
I am sorry but which part are you mentioning here? Which bottle?
@@shramanadasdutta3006 14:11
Yeah it's look like a Hugh smile. Not House
Hated the car crash scene from the very beginning and the aftermath as well. I get being mad at Cuddy, but by then he had bonded with Rachel, saved Cuddy's mom, etc. I don't buy for a second that House is going to ram his car like that knowing a toddler is there, etc.
And that's also the "line too far" for where I can buy secondary characters being ok around House. Wilson, Foreman and Chass have all worked with Cuddy for how many years at that point? They all know Cuddy is a mom, met Rachel, etc, and I am supposed to believe they can be cool working with House at this point?
That's the point where I quit the show. That action was akin to domestic violence, he could easily have killed someone, and by that point I'd given up on the show taking it as seriously as it deserved and not just giving it an eye-roll and a "oh, House, you so crazy." Still never seen the final season.
@@brainofwombat You should absolutely watch the final season.
@@General12th S8 is a shit show which only the final 3 episodes saved and in the end they also did Wilson wrong.I get they wanted to end it on a sad note but it made much more sense for House to finally die after doing every risky thing he could think off,and not everyone else around him who always did whats the best for them and everyone around them. That was unfair.
Not only that but also,how can you have someone next to you,who committed homicide and could have killed 4 people and a child,and youare fine with that???? As if nothing ever happened??? Like Cuddy treated everyone greatly, House treated everyone like shit and thats the treatment she gets???? It pissed me off the fact that everyone was like 'oh House you are out of jail,how was it?' instead of giving him hell of a treatment for it. So unnatural.
also: lisa e was one of the best, most talented actors on this show. she brought so much to the role and matched hugh laurie's energy and skill every step of the way. wish she'd got a bit more character development earlier in the series and more screen time generally
It’s always been wild to me that a doctor of all people would be like “a junkie relapsed one time after being under stress??? GARBAGE MAN!! IRREDEEMABLE ACTION!! No one can get better if they relapse once!!!!!”
I think it was less "GARBAGE MAN!" and more "I just cant hang with this". She (probably correctly) believes she's going to be essentially alone in anything even remotely difficult and as a doctor, hospital administrator, single mom, etc she can't handle the pressure of being the only thing House can hang his sobriety coat on.
Hausdrache but I mean she’s known he’s an addict for how many years? And chose to get with him at the beginning of his recovery? You can’t say “I’ll support you through recovery unless you slip one time”. As a doctor she knows exactly how often people relapse, it’s not an if it’s a when. It was just sloppy bad writing and if they didn’t want that relationship they shouldn’t have done it
@@mayonasal_spray Human beings change their minds all the time, overestimate their own abilities all the time, get blinded by emotion. Even doctors. Relapse as a hypothetical vs relapse as an actual event are experienced differently.
There's a lot to argue with about the way the later seasons were handled, and I think you can argue that the writer's SHOULD NOT have broken them up, but I don't think you can argue that them breaking up wasn't PLAUSIBLE.
@@hausdrache4054 The issue is relapse for an addict isn't really hypothetical, it pretty much always happens. Yeah there are a few special/lucky people who manage to avoid it but for the vast majority it will happen.
Their relationship was clearly doomed from the start, but the main problem I have isn't the fact they broke up; it's the reasoning. Cuddy's job is to plan for and deal with issues/worst case scenarios. Someone who does that for a living & has spent the last what, decade? dealing with House's outbursts, meltdowns & cleaning up after him wouldn't throw in the towel after 1 bad thing.
If she was the kind of person that couldn't deal with that it would have come up way earlier and she would have been bad at her job.
The writers did something out of character for her qualifications, for her career, for her as a person. It was sloppy & lazy & purely for the drama. It was bad writing.
That may be wild to you, yet it has absolutely nothing to do with what actually happens in the show.
She's not mad or thinks he's garbage for relapsing. She realized she can't count on him when it counts. Less wild now?
having house drive into cuddy’s dining room was the biggest mistake they could have made. they needed something big for lisa edelstein to leave the show but... traumatise her character like that? she could’ve broken up with house and taken a job somewhere far away. plus, it makes house unsympathetic in a way that is completely overboard for his established character so far. house is arrogant, rude, makes immature and edgy jokes, he deflects, he finds it incredibly difficult to deal with emotional pain because he imagines himself as a Rational Saint. he’s not really violent, though. he’s not scary. the reason the audience connects with house through his flaws, is because we and the characters around him admire his unparalleled dedication to finding the truth, standing up for what he thinks is right. driving into your ex’s house because she may have a new fling is............ not that.
They actually didn't know Cuddy was leaving, they said if they did they would've given her a proper send off
Seems to me that the episode was priming the viewer into expecting House to actually hit Cuddy during a fit of repressed anger, and in the beginning it's framed as such: the episode shows a cop suggesting Cuddy to press domestic abuse charges in the aftermath of House's lashing out. I figure showing House hitting a woman would've been a HUGE no-no that would've destroyed the show right then and there, so they decided to instead replace it with someone far more unrealistic and thus generates a less visceral response in the viewers
Even more sad that apparently she does move on to somewhere else but we never know where because House cuts Foreman off when he tries to explain saying he doesn't care. It's very unsatisfactory
16:38 hugh laurie: are they going to ride off into the sunset? no, house isn't designed that way
the actual ending: 😳
cannot wait 4 wilson episode! wilson wilson wilson!
The fact she dropped him after a single relapse when relapses are so common in addicts really bothers me. Yeah, he should have been present for her but she apparently wasn't able to stick with him through tough times either so
I think it's more like she doesn't want to be the reason he takes Vicodin. Pain happens. If they are in a serious relationship he needs to be able to deal with a family crisis without pills. She is trying to raise a child and he is always going to be moments away from taking drugs depending on how things are going.
@@kristavaillancourt6313 then she really shouldn't have dated him in the first place. Recovery isn't a straight line and relapses might happen, like said for mundane reasons. And I do feel it's very understandable if she decided she couldn't because of her daughter, but the point is she did date him so it feels like we actually should expect more flexibility on her part, vs... this.
It doesn't make me feel negative towards Cuddy, it just feels like the writers didn't think things through.
This pisses me off greatly because she was supposed to be the emotionally mature one. She was supposed to understand that. It could lead to the break-up, but not being the reason behind it.
@@personneici2595 Truth is, I'm glad Cuddy broke up with him because their relationship would've been nothing but dysfunctional
Exactly. That's why I understood his anger and driving into her house. Not morally justified, but understandable.
Almost 10 years later and you have to remind me of the wasted potential of this romance... This was where I lost the last bit of faith I had in the writers, because they handled this relationship the same way every other show that has a will they won't they couple on it: the second they get together they have no idea what to do with them so they just break them up.
But really by the 6th season the show already felt like it had outstayed its potential, so seeing the writing decline further in season 7 didn't surprise me. Still, won't forgive them for how they treated Lisa Edelstein.
Speaking of another series with a will they won’t they couple, I was personally super happy and invested with the couple in Bones. I felt it was a natural thing for them and the writers managed well the transition and evolution of the relationship and characters. And all because the actress was pregnant and they had to include that somehow into the show.
There are ways to work around it or give the characters a better story line ( even if the actress wants out of the show). In House, it kind of felt they totally gave up and didn’t care anymore.
There was one big difference though. In Bones they are partners from the start. The show shows them in the same light in equal ground in their work. Here, she is his boss and it definitely changes everything.
Ash Ketchup Lisa Edelstein said that the reason why she left was something she didn’t have in plan. In fact she was looking forward season 8. But then, following her words, something heartbreaking happened that took her a long time to recover from what made her to leave the show, that it was too personal for her to speak about in public and she felt uncomfortable. She never really said the real reason why she left the show. But in my opinion somebody mistreated her. Maybe sexism, or something political since she appeared in an against abrotion commercial.
@@britneysexyyI read that one reason was she was going to get a pay decrease and her contract was up, that could've been one factor in it
Still to this day I have no idea why they couldnt write them with the same banter as in S1-6 and just add personal moments in it. They just had to ruin them and make them completely OC. They deserved so much better together,and Lisa Edelstein deserved so much better as well for literally being the female that carried the show.
The episode where House helps the trapped woman is my favorite episode. Makes me cry every time. Sometimes you can do everything right and still fail. And sometimes those moments hit you at your lowest.
At 12:52 was incredible when I first saw it, and stayed with me for years.
"I did everything right and she died anyway". This made me think of the reason Amber died - a combination of things that can be argued to be House's fault, but this time his character flaws are irrelevant to the pain in him and in the world. Foreman aimed at reassuring House's 'result-orientated' thinking, but him being "clean" made him actually feel like everyone feels through the chaos of this world. So, even if Cuddy stopped him from relapsing, there was no way for him to live in such a world without a opioid - pain relief.
i dont remember, but at least that would be reason enough for him to lose his license, and his job
I think that the end of the season finale, where House crashes into Cuddys house, was a dangerous move. Because this is the point where almost everyone will side with cuddy, in beeing annoyed by House the Icon, and in giving up on House the human. I almost felt like leaving too, like Cuddy did. Later seasons still had great episodes, but this is the point where the larger narrative gets thrown out the window...
I always hated that their story ended like that, even when I didn't have enough knowledge about storytelling and such to elaborate why I hayed it.
I gave up on any sign of character development from House after that. The fact that Lisa Edelstein never returned even for the finale kinda left me bitter about Cuddy too.
I guess the point I didn't know I was gonna make is, House the show died for me in the car crash episode.
very apt, after this ep i left the season just like cuddy did and didn't even watch the last one.
Couldn't have said it better
@Robin TBH I do see it out of character. Whenever house did something REALLY bad (especially to people who he cares about) he was loosing it or when he had to go through withdrawal. Like when Chase had allergic reaction or when Cuddy stormed to him crying and when he told her that "she would make a terrible mother", or when he was "intentionally" making a patient worse. Sure, House did insult, assault and did other bad things to everyone around him even in his normal state but it never was to that extreme, he knew when he messed up and he knew how to not completly cross the line. Running the car into the Cuddy's house tho, it's just something he wouldn't do normally I think. In fact, they could've just made him messed up in the head for that to happen and that would've made much better conclusion, because Cuddy still has legitimate reason to cut all ties with him whatsoever.
It’s where I stop in my rewatches
I remember that I quit watching after House crashed the car into Cuddy's house. It was one of the symptoms of the a problem I had with the show's desire to stay interesting rather than do things that would develop the characters well.
“Get Happy” is honestly one of my favorite scenes in all of House and probably in all of musical numbers.
5:56 It's an eighties party where you dress up as a charter from that era, notice what House's costume is?
Prince George, in Blackadder, ya know that British show from the eighties starring Hugh Laurie. You might have heard of him. :P
Every time House gets goofy, I can't shake off George resemblance.
Except his outfit or wig doesn't really match the style of Prince George, looks way more like a lawyer or founding father. Maybe a highwayman.
I'm not a diehard house fan. I'm a casual fan who enjoys the medical mystery more than the drama scenes with that said I remember this episode as the last time I watched House. Because the thought of House driving his car into Cuddy's house was so stupid and surprisingly out of character for him that I just felt this massive "Jumping the Shark" moment for the show. Granted House is self destructing and granted he's at an emotional low point but he's ALWAYS been consistent about being a DOCTOR, aka do no harm. While annoying, embarrassing and over the top his pranks have NEVER been this close to hurting someone. The only time he ever hurt someone was the Flying guy in the mental hospital and you can argue that that wasn't entirely his fault since he couldn't have predicted just how bad that guy's mental condition was; with that said it shook House to his core so much that he agreed to do actual TREATMENT, something he would never do normally.
And like you said; putting that aside it completely wastes and destroy House and Cuddy's relationship and is just such a sour note to leave Cuddy on.
This, so much this!
It's weird to see Hugh Laurie in his full House getup using his normal British accent.
If there isn't a Part 7 about kitchen sinks in House, we riot.
You may start now.
yeah he drove his car through her house and i was like " hey....you know whats calling to me? a more realistic show goodbye"
Here's my rewriting of House and Cuddy breaking up:
Set it up just a bit ahead of time. In every episode, House is up to something and Lisa is trying to figure it out always assuming House is doing something wrong, but it turns out he's not . His therapy worked and he loves her and he will not risk the relationship but true to his character, he is solving puzzles, making elaborate plans, still fighting to save the patients. And every time there is a question, Lisa assumes the worst, including thinking that he took the Vicodin. He didn't. He stayed clean, and he proves it. She believes him and everything is about to go back to normal but then he breaks up. Hurt by her always seeing the worst in him, not once assuming that he is doing the right thing. You understand her, because of his past, but you also understand him, he is hurt because no matter what he does, no matter the change, he is still being treated like that old version of him. He might as well be that old version again...
Of course, I'm drawing from my personal experience where the worst was always assumed about me at the slightest hint of ambiguity, despite nothing ever, in the past, present or future, being a reason to make such an assumption. And how I reacted to ending such a relationship is definitely different from House, but House going back to his old self would be on the same level, thus realistic.
Male perspective, but not sure if actually entended. by the writers, going on their comments. Either Shes tired of his antics, but no, apparently its the vicodin.They talk about how a relationship is about taking on someones pain, and ignore her problemen with the vicodin, that he needs because of her meddling with operation.
I think the whole 'expecting the worst' is Houses fault. Over the years he lead Cuddy and Wilson to believe that he needs lies,manipulation and a motif to do something and that he can never really change,so when he finally does decide to do so,Cuddy is so used to not trying to get her hopes up,that she decides to assume the worst to not get dissapointed and hurt.
I gotta admit, he is right, i really liked the cuddy-house relationship and they totally wasted and ruined beyond repair
The scene at 12:50 was personally my favourite of the show. Whilst I do agree that for the most part the end of season 5 and 1st ep of season 6 is a much better cut off for the show, I still think the season 6 finale was incredible. It's just a shame they wrote themselves into a corner with House and Cuddy and then decided to smoke meth when writing everything from the breakup onwards.
i have never seen such a great description for the shitshow of post breakup onwards.
For me it was when he yelled at Taub "Life is pain!" He loved Wilson so much he wanted him to fight just like he's fought all those years with his screwed up leg
Hugh Laurie: "You know, once they're together, then what do you do? Are they really right for each other? Are they just going to ride off into the sunset; is that an end to it?"
Oh gee. I wonder...didn't House actually ride off into the sunset with someone?
With his dying friend
@@nicanornunez9787 Continuing his habit of running away from his problems
@@nicanornunez9787 Friend is a bit of an understatement considering what I just described.
@@Paul-A01 Considering his problem at that point was having to go to prison and thus not being able to be there for his best friend during the last months of his life, I'd argue that faking his own death and riding into the sunset to be there for Wilson is not him running away form his problem at all.
I dunno. He DID ride off into Cuddy's house.
I think it was at sunset.
When House and Cuddy broke up House was destroyed. He begged her not to to end it. And given how Cuddy went about it, he likely felt like his love was stolen from him. (In this appeal when I reference "love" I'm referring to loving and being loved in return.)
So, after he decided to go back on Vicodin, in order to block out the pain, he walled himself off from her. He deliberately avoided having the break up talk with her, because he didn't want to feel what he knew would be extremely painful.
But, she pinned him down. They had their talk. And it seemed like maybe he didn't have to lose her entirely. Maybe some of his love could be salvaged. Maybe they could have the relationship that they had before they got together. You could imagine him thinking something like, "something is certainly better than nothing".
So, he finds the brush, and takes it to her. In the moment that he walks up to the house and sees her with another man he fills with agony. He realizes that he was deluding himself in believing that anything could ever be the way that it was. That his love wasn't truly stolen from him. That "she" didn't steal it from him.
No. She did. And now she's just going to go about her life like it didn't matter??? Like his pain doesn't matter???
In that moment he knows it will never be the same. And he's come to terms with the fact that he's sick of holding back his anger. "YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW I FEEL???"
I don't see this as a waste. I see this as a completed arc. The viewers got to see these 2 make a go of something that was lying just beneath the surface of their professional relationship, over the course of the series. The characters got to be really happy for a moment. And we got to see it.
I couldn't have said it better. His violent reaction is completely understandable. She wasn't there for HIM.
@@Beastinvader bruh he left her alone when she could be dying and post breakup he fucked every single hooker possible and married one while at the same time he tormented her and humiliated ,not just then but for YEARS. She begged him to talk to fix whatever was left and he wanted to destruct and hurt her even more,as if she wasnt in pain. Who tf wasnt there for whom????????
Its annoying that people say he is the right one in this case.
HE has no right to expect from his woman,that he left alone in her on moments of agony,to be there for him post breakup (even though she did try and he blocked her out).
HE has no right to demand her to stay so he doesnt relapse,that is his own fault and too toxic.
HE has no right to be jealous when right after the breakup he fucked a ton of hookers and married on purely to spite Cuddy,even though he knew her and he knew that Cuddy would never grieve publicly.She literally waited two months until she talked to someone else and you guys give her hell for it.
HE has no right to demand her,when he had so many chanches to do better and he didnt ( he repeated multiple times 'i can do better' and never proved it).She was always there for him and thats what she gets?
And for the love of God,he commited homicide. He could have killed her and you guys justify that???thats insane. I dont care how emotionallly heartbroken he was. NOTHING justifies homicide.
Yes they deserved better together. They were the happiest they had ever been and they should have never broken them up. ill never forgive the writers for ruining them.
Hearing Hugh Laurie's natural british accent while in full House costume and set...is trippy...I kinda wish they did a fever dream episode where he's using his UK accent and that sharp, dry sense of humor they're famous for...😅
Yesterday I was thinking about when the next House series would come out, and here it is!
I’ve been loving this series so far. I’m liking the video before watching, because I know it’s already going to be great
If anything these essay videos are making me realise how fumbled the last few seasons were, everything you say is kind of building on the argument "it shouldve ended in broken" and I could not agree more, this shit went stupid and didn't come back.
I personally hated the reason they broke up. I felt like he should have had another chance. It was his first really tough moment after becoming sober. I felt Cuddy would have known that, and given him another chance. I don’t think the relationship would have worked long term, I don’t think House was capable of being a father and healthy partner. As to after the break up... WHY DOES CUDDY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT A BRUSH?! They couldn’t make it a necklace, a bracelet, almost anything else? 😆 Who goes to so much trouble to get a hairbrush back?
Edit: Just wanted to say, love this series, thanks for all the work you’ve put into it/are putting into it.
I agree. There are tons of reasons why their relationship might not last but him taking a pill when he thought she was dying? That's not a good reason. He's an addict. Relapses will happen. The important thing is to get it under control again which is what House did. Cuddy should understand how addiction works but of course the problem is that the writers don't know how addiction works.
I understand that, but if you've ever been with someone and said 'I can't do this if X never stops', you help them and put a lot of work into it both, and they do get through it. And then X crops up again after you were so sure you were through it, and so ecstatic about it, and you don't know what you thought you knew anymore. Or Y related thing to X that solidified the issue with trust. Maybe it's not just the vicodin, maybe it's being not sure enough that he will be a stable-enough person as he was sober. Maybe the Y factor is how hard it is to be there for someone who isn't trying as hard as you know they can and who how much you can trust them varies.
They need to be able to learn from mistakes, not just not do them sometimes.
You have to trust someone to be with them, and House is a person who is very untrustworthy in certain things and unerringly trustworthy in others. You don't need to know something would not work if you tried to not want to try.
That being said, this sort of situation has nearly happened for me and I decided to see whether the was permanent or temporary before I decided I didn't want to devote myself to getting them better or whether I wanted to be with them. In that time I also saw that the reason why it happened was completely beyond their control as a side effect of what you could normally see as basically normal behavior. This being known, they stopped doing it, they got back to themselves and we are very happy.
Questioning whether I was loved and whether this was going anywhere was not easy. Watching them go though something so difficult (that makes them different from who you loved, and yet confusingly, you love them) and having to roll with what makes you uncomfortable to pull them up is not easy. In fact, for a while I felt physically ill. I don't begrudge anybody who can't sit around waiting for the questions to stop keeping them up at night. Who doesn't want to do all the talking it takes to put things right, or thinks they would be the one holding up the conversation.
It is, however, very nice to only have small problems most of the time that I can anticipate as in his personality, not being snapped at with half-smothered rage over something I was never told was bothering him. We basically never fight now. We're both really accepting of flaws (and really well versed in them) in a way we never were before.
I didn't want to not try to help if I could potentially get them through it, even though I didn't know whether it would work. That was my decision.
It's possible having a child would change what you would do, make you less willing to put yourself on the line for the tentative hypothetical best outcome.
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I hear what you’re saying and you have good points. My issue is the writers made it all about the one slip up and not about all the problems that were actually there. The problems you described are huge and all reasons for them to break up. The issue is the writers didn’t make it enough about that though. (In my opinion.)
OMG! The Toothbrush makes that episode the least favorite of mine. Seriously. That was so stupid. :D
I feel like House driving his car into Cuddy's house was the writers trying to make a way that Cuddy would never get back with House. Like he's gotta do something so bad that she'd never be with him again but also that we'd still like him. I think it was k8nda wak
“Help Me” is a fantastic episode!
i just binged the entire series after stumbling across your channel, I've never been happier
Dude that’s gotta more than 100 hours bravo
You poor thing! After season 3 this turns into a disgusting soap.
I'm so glad you gave House and Cuddy a fair shake. I was a huge shipper when i was a teenager and I'm not ashamed to admit i just dipped on the show after they got together. Because I KNEW that their downfall would come and i would rather live in an AU where they worked out their issues together without the pressure of the status quo or story arcs.
Cuddy's reason for breaking up with House always bothered me. House was an addict, she knew House was an addict, ADDICTS RELAPSE IN STRESSFUL SITUATIONS. I get that the relapse was representative of more than the drugs, it represented his narcissism, his utter inability to deal with pain, it confirmed that he wasn't stable or responsible enough to be a parent to Rachel, or even be in a relationship, however, that singular relapse is something Cuddy should have tried to help House work through. The fact that she just dumped him at the end of "Bombshells" just made Cuddy look bad to me. She used a singular relapse in a stressful situation to prove to herself that House couldn't change, despite the fact that he had shown that he was willing and able to change for her throughout the season.
I think a big part of the reason this breakup bothered me, is that the relationship was so short, 6 seasons of "will-they-won't-they," and we only get half a season of House and Cuddy. I agree that the Lucas-Cuddy relationship just felt like wasting time. I LOVE Lucas as a character in the show, and I think they could have done a lot making him a recurring character, but putting him in a relationship with Cuddy was not necessary to keep him around. I also really like the dynamic and character growth we saw in House while he was dating Cuddy, and I really want to see it on screen (which is the main reason I disagree with your assertion that the show should have ended with "Broken").
Just for fun, here is how I would address the issues I have with this whole arc of the show. First, after "Broken" House starts dating Cuddy in Season 6. Maybe make it take a few episodes to show her that he has changed since he went to Mayfield. They have most of their dating dynamic spread out over season 6, rather than crammed into the first half of season 7. Then final episode of season 6 "Help Me", keep the plot similar (with the knowledge that House and Cuddy are dating of course), except at the end, House actually relapses, and Cuddy walks in to find him already swallowing the pills. Open season 7, she is angry with him, maybe he spends an episode popping vicoden in a stupor at his apartment. Cuddy goes to Wilson asking for advice. He reminds her that he is an addict and a relapse should have been expected, and that he needs her to help him through it. From there you could go a few different ways, House could see more meaningful change and you could get a happily ever after, or he could relapse again and we get the meltdown we got. It would have made the relationship a lot more interesting, and the conclusion (whatever that may be) a lot more satisfying, along with keeping Cuddy from coming off as a petty bitch to some extent.
I love the super wide aperture used in S6 finale.
I remember them explaning they had to use a regular Canon photocamera because they couldn't get the usual cameras into the tight space they were filming. Everything about that episode was amazing!
this video brings me back to the highs and lows of emotion being a 14 yo fanfic writer and an OTP like huddy drops, an absolute legendary romance, made me sob in my bedroom like it was a real love that I was going through... i can count on my one hand the amount of tv shows i thought had a satisfying ending so im not even mad about the last seasons of house when it gave us THIS incredible dynamic. pixies huddy fanvids oh lord - thanks for bringing all these memories back with this wonderful vid
I still get goosebumps for the reveal of who was in the bus with House
..... ok but the Get Happy shit... I LIKED IT OK thats fun, you know that whole cast had a great ass time that day being wild, and you can see it so yeah. "What is this." An amazing ass choice for story telling on how Cuddys mind is very subliminal... 😂👌
Enjoying every one of these thank god theres one more.
12:57 that is a great scene. I remember when I first watched it and just being so shocked because usually it works and they save the patient or if they don't it's because they don't know what's wrong with them until afterwards. This scene was a great turning point in House's character that showed an infallibility in his actions - he's not always right and being right doesn't always work
The car scene makes perfect sense. It just shows how completely unhinged he’s become, and places the audience at a distance from the character. You’re no longer rooting for him because he’s completely crossed the line, and that justifies putting him in jail in the following season.
It’s not just angst - anyone who has been through that jealousy and anger will know that’s what it feels like. Of course it’s a sign of maturity to be able to get over those feelings and not act maliciously on them - which is the point; house is immature. He’s acting like an extreme 17 year old which is relatable enough to get us invested while so completely unjustifiable that we aren’t supposed to take his side at all.
tl;dr having your protagonist do terrible things makes good drama. You don’t understand it because you aren’t him, which is part of the point.
I think partly why i don’t like it is because in the next season everyone forgets. It’s treated as if it was just another “house is so crazy” moment by the other characters. If they’d have left it there, has everyone else side with cuddy and not forgiven house it would have been so much more impactful. Or even if they went the route of exploring what the character and audience are willing to overlook, criticising Wilson and the others for how easily they brush it off, it could have been so much better. But it’s left forgotten completely about 3 episodes in
This is quite well edited, and that is evident from the opening moments of Part 1, but the segment 24:30 - 26:00 is perhaps one of the best edited sequences I've seen in a video essay. Great work, Jesse Tribble.
I've been thinking about this a lot and i have a couple things I REALLY need to get off my chest:
1. What the hell we're they planning on doing with Cuddy in season 8, because they didn't know Lisa was leaving and they've said that they would've given her a proper send off if they knew she wasn't going to be in the next season. and I really wish that she had told them so they didn't leave her character the way they did, I also just really want to know what they would've done to send her off.
2. House shows absolutely no remorse for what he did and they COMPLETELY DESTROYED ANY POSSIBLE CHANCE OF THEM GETTING BACK TOGETHER AND THAT MAKES ME SO MAD!!
3. I understand why they could never be endgame and I get it, but I wish they had made Cuddy actually get sick and die because that would've been such a good storyline in S8, House mourning Cuddy, and that's why he went back on Vicodin, and then when Wilson gets diagnosed with cancer he looses the two people that meant the most to him. That would've been so great to watch and given House good character growth. I don't think the show had enough of the main cast die, Kutner was because the actor went to the white house and Amber, idk why, but they we're the only two main cast members who died and I think they should've killed more people off. (and this is coming from someone who HATES when my favorite characters die) I just think that would've been better than how they ended the season with House being the most childish and irrational version of himself (which is saying A LOT). I am now CONSTANTLY saying he is an ASS which is just so obvious but when he's being the worst version of himself it needs to be said lol. (I still love him though, this isn't be ragging on him to be mean, but after he ran into Cuddy's house I can't see him the same anymore)
4. When I first saw the S7 finale I was like 10 and I was kinda confused as to what was happening, now I see that and I just want to scream because thinking about what the characters have been through together and knowing that House was always capable of something like this made me angry, because I still love them together and their entire relationship felt natural and real but I feel like rooting for a relationship where someone, if their that jealous or mad thinking that she "lied" to him, can do something like that just feels wrong, so I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to feel about this on literally every level.
5. I still love the characters, both separately and together, but rewatching and knowing how absolutely devastating and horribly their story ends just doesn't feel right for the fact that these actors had put 7 years into this relationship and it goes down the drain in about 10 seconds just makes the entire story feel pointless. Don't make me fall in love with the characters and their relationship and end it like it didn't mean anything when this was the first couple I ever really shipped and I remember being so excited to watch 2 reruns every Saturday and then when we started watching the new episodes around season 5 and it was the first show that I ever found and got my family into so it became a tradition.
6. I never properly mourned the end of their relationship, which I'm going to spend the next few months of my life doing now, becuase what else do I have to do rn tbh.
Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED Talk :P please help me...
You know what's funny? Despite never addressing it, House plays the character of someone with Borderline Personality Disorder superbly, from the complex unresolved childhood trauma to the explosive TV-dramatic suicidal outbursts when he faces the percieved prospect of abandonment. It would have been interesting to see him face his ego like that, but I think a lot of things were lacking at the time, including an understanding of that psychological mechanic.
Like from the very core, "Everybody lies" is a textbook child-like ego story, a lived experience that he never learned to resolve, and the nature of his character led him to intoxicate others and surround himself with people who also were suffering rather than face their internalized trauma and biases themselves
This video reminded me of how absolutely gobsmacked I was when out of nowhere House drives into Cuddys house. Absolutely out of character and an asspull by the writers.
Ok so I'm rewatching this series for the first time since it was first uploaded, and I only now noticed the Bandersnatch reference. You, sir, are a genius. This whole series is a masterpiece and it's so thorough and analytical but not to the point where it becomes boring or anything. It's clear how much you've worked on this and how much you love the show and that's why it's even more compelling for all of us to watch.
What is the bandersnatch reference?
Never been so early and I can't wait to see how this episode goes!
Discovered your channel because of this series and have been binge watching your videos for the past week 🤭
Never watched the show faithfully beyond catching an episode every now and again. Your analysis made it a must watch and even with the spoilers, the insight of the more subtle shifts in characters and blatant ones with the story has improved the experience tenfold. Now I’m waiting on that detailed breakdown of Rescue Me. It’s a similar situation with a different setting.
I had mostly stopped engaging with House a good time ago, after a generous helping of fanfiction, lots of which focused on making the breakup make sense or omitting it wholly. My feelings on the House: meet House scene were clear, it was absolutely a shark jump, and a character assassination, but as a depressed 16 year old who used this show for escapism... it also really did a number on my mental health. Pathetic, I know, but that was my reality at that point. I think I wrote a review of bombshells and the finale, expressing much of the same opinions as you did here, but with a lot less of thorough analysis and lots more hurt, teen angst and hopelessness. I used to think I moved on from House pretty well, all th ngs considered, but each one of these videos shows me just how much I lacked proper closure. Engaging so closely with this show after getting out of my own depression (eh, for the most part), and as a successful adult in my own right, who doesn't need to live vicariously through abrasive geniuses on TV, has proven very interesting, and helpful. Thank you very much for making these, can't wait for part six (to marathon all of them back to back haha).
House crashing Cuddy's dinner (heh) is a strong reminder to all who had forgotten who House is by that point: selfish, impulsive, addicted, cruel when in pain. Not a person you should praise
If he didn't save lives so the time he would be a piece of shit. But we love him.
okay but the musical part was unironically awesome.... right? right??
Yes
Yeah
To be fair to the writers, I think that Lisa Edelstein wanting to leave the show threw a wrench in their plans but man so much of this show after season 4 is beating a dead horse. So much of the earlier seasons seemed to be building toward some kind of thematic arc for the show but ultimately the show really is "House is a jerk and an addict" told ad naeseum. What's worse, I feel like the character regresses for the sake of plot.
Lisa Edelstein did not "want to leave the show" during the making of her final season. Several actors (including her) were asked to take a pay cut for the last season. Edelstein held out and eventually moved on. They didn't craft this car crash as a farewell to Cuddy. They never got the chance to do that.
Honestly the s6 finale could have been the finale to the whole show, when he admits he wishes he hadn't saved his leg.
I might not agree with all your opinions but damn is it nice to listen to you talk about a show that we all love
The last two episodes if season 4 were one are the best
I honestly kind of wish they had just let Cuddy be the "patient" for bombshell, but also it does feel a bit too artificial when you get to the breakup itself with so many dreams leading to it. Part of me wonders if there's a way you could have some of those dreams scattered earlier in the season to actually build up to the breakup, especially since these are her fears so he doesn't have to actually be taking Vicodin, she could just be very worried about it and if she made the right choice to be dating somebody in recovery with her daughter around.
I also have hated the car crash this entire time, House can be cruel and very self-destructive but I also don't think he's going to do something that's going to potentially *murder people*. I felt very like again the writers had an end goal, and forced it to work towards that. Do you have him do something horrible and dumb but this wasn't the answer.
I wish they would have done that, that makes more sense. Maybe have House's zombie fight dream before the actual breakup scene, like he would sense it or something...
I think what really hurts arguments in favour of the car scene is that it’s basically ignored for the rest of the show
Sure, house went to prison and was on parole, but no other characters seemed to give af that it happened
Cuddy, who had been a major influential character since episode 1 was gone and nobody seemed to really care after an episode or two.
16:23 that's a sound i haven't heard in a while
i personally really enjoyed bombshells on first watch, quirks and all. The genre bends were really fun i thought. My life will always be incomplete without a House/Wilson daddy sitcom
I was obsessed with Cuddy and really looked up to her when I watched this as a kid. TV didn’t have as many independent mature female characters who could hold their own then. I had no idea about toxic relationships however, so I only ever rooted for her and House to get together.
Thank you for the supercut of people vomiting, I just needed that to start my day.
Lisa Edelstein is fantastic as Alan Arkin's drug addled daughter in the hilarious _The Kominsky Method_
It was great to hear Hugh Laurie speaking in his native English accent again. In one of the interviews. 🏴
I'm so glad this video series showed up in my recommended last week. I binged it until part 4 and now i'm super invested
Because of you im rewatching the series and after a few years its really interesting to see things in a new light. Thanks for the vids!
I like dream stuff and David Lynch films so for me, the dream stuff I see as creative expression in an Avante Garde kind of way and it never bothered me so I never felt like it distracted from the story. That's what I like about House compared to other shows--its not afraid to take creative risks, something that's lacking these days in mainstream media
I need to comment that the season 6 finale is like...my favourite House M.D episode. The second being the finale. Idk why 'Help Me' always makes me cry. I was so invested in Hannah ans her screams of pain are fucking agonising to hear. I was so upset when she didn't make it and I knew it would through House through a loop. There was part of me that wanted him to get back on drugs but that's my self destructive side projecting. I'm probably oversharing but idc, 'Help Me' was fucking amazing.
Edit: no wait! I forgot about the bus crash! House's Head and Wilson's Heart are join at no.2, finale is number 3
This video series has single-handedly made me start binging House M.D. on Prime Video. Since this series began, I am already at Season 2 Episode 4. I hope you're happy with yourself.
Happy to see this. Noticed that the latest episode was a week ago this morning.
7:55 cutner is so real for that
That scene with House and Wilson is gold
the scene of cuddy in the school girl outfit damn I fell in love lol
When I watched bits and pieces of House as a kid on free to air television, I had the BIGGEST crush on Cuddy. I still do, Lisa Edelstein is beautiful and a phenomenal actor
This whole series is excellent! Also House’s Bombshell suit was my first cosplay, for my first college party. For any 18-19 year old, a life-changer. So I never really thought about the episode like that before. Loved the working backwards
As a casual fan of House, I really appreciate this deep dive into a well crafted, iconic television series.
This series has encouraged me to pick back up my rewatch from 2 years ago. I like season 5, but aside from broken I can’t for the life of me remember much passed it.
I hope you plan on doing a segment at least about Kutner. I have a lot of thoughts concerning how they played that arc. ESPECIALLY considering the episode “Painless” regarding suicide and how Kutner himself talks about him being least likely to do it. Maybe this was foreshadowing. Or maybe they didn’t plan for Kal Penn to work for the White House so they pulled the rip cord on him.
I just found this series today on a RUclips recommendation and I can't get enough of it.
This is now my 2nd favourite video essay series just behind Lindsay Ellis' Hobbit movie essays. Your work is fantastic and I wish you all the success. 👍
Ahh. Someone who understands my love for this series.
I found this video series today and have been just binging it. So lovely.
Well done mate
Bombshells is where I got off the bus. Just a fuster-cluck
The Get Happy bit is one of my personal favorite parts of the series
Love this series btw thank you for making it
Thank you for putting so many complex emotions I've felt about the whole series in well-exposited video essays. Yes, waiting for part 6!
I haven't even really watched house beyond youtube clips, but I'm almost 3 hours into this now and I'm not stopping now
Bombshell is still one of my fave episodes
Besides the regular house episode part
But the Cuddy part just, is so good.
Not looking forward to the next instalment because when the next instalment arrives there will be no more instalments to look forward to :(
Such a good analysis. I'm so split with the House/Cuddy thing. They had potential but they sucked as a couple. He was a bad boyfriend in so many ways, but the way she broke it off with him, knowing he's a recovering addict without even a conversation about it seems way harsh but then he appeared to emotionally abandon her at her most vulnerable time so....idk. This particular episode did not work for me on many levels.
I hated all of the episodes following their break up- the hookers, the green card wedding, the fact that Cuddy attends this weird wedding? What was that? And that crash. That. Crash. House was always kooky but was he ever meant to be an actual nut job?? I checked out emotionally at this point and I hated that there was no possible way back for Cuddy after that (even if Lisa Edelstein contract negotiations hadn't fallen through). You're right- what a waste
Idk if I like your entire channel yet, but I'm subscribing based on the speed you put these out alone.
Imagine what the show would have done if House had managed to injure Cuddy when he pulled the car stunt...
People would've hated him after that
@@RandomSkyeRoses true, that would definitely deprive him of basically all audience sympathy for a long while... On the other hand, I think it would at least make for a good fanfiction scenario to explore
@@justinweber4977 from a life sentence prison?
@@jhonathantejada3345 well, some would depend on the severity of her injuries. But, even then, there are other characters, and House has done bottle episodes before.
Now he's just more Nero Wolfe than Sherlock Holmes. Except where Wolfe refused to leave his home, House isn't allowed to leave prison.
@JustinWeber I don't think the writers were thinking right. They could have shot that scene and then show him still in the car him realizing in that what-if thought "No. I'm done" And he drives away leaving Wilson there waiting for a cab. Lol!
I always wanted to have a friend like Wilson. Still searching... 😀
[Minus being a jerk or manipulating a true friend. A good friend is always there for you and he/she is real and tells you the truth to your face, and that's awesome!]
"what's my necklace made of?" 😭
First of all, let me say, incredible video, as always.
I remember dropping the series a little before "Bombshells".
The last ones I remember seeing were the ones where House and Wilson are desperate to get Rachel to... "evacuate" a coin she swallowed (or else Cuddy would kill them) and the one that ends with House, Cuddy and Rachel enjoying the rest of the night as a family. Rachel even cuddles with House, adorable stuff. Then I kinda missed the other episodes (the joys of cable tv) and was spoiled on both the relationship breakdown and the "House almost murders someone in their with a car" *bullshit,* became aware that Lisa Edelstein wouldn't be coming back and I just tapped out.
Like I commented in an earlier video in this series, I always thought of House, Cuddy and Wilson as the *"DC Trinity"* (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman) of this universe and, to me, losing one of these characters would make THE ENTIRE SHOW 30% less interesting, at least. 'Till this video essay series, I was only *vaguely* aware of a "Season 8", and it still sounds way inferior to everything we got so far. Hyped up for the Wilson video!
I get chills every time I watch "Help me"
love this series, the way you break this down is executed so perfectly
The laugh when House drove through the living room was so endearing. 🥺 I'm such a huge fan of this channel, excited for part 6!!!!
Loved the Bandersnatch detail.
I don't want this series to end