Okay, this is brilliant! Teach a process instead of a specific build (though you point out highly effective stuff you use). This is awesome, will definitely be trying out this process.
Good luck homie👍 Don't be discouraged if it takes a bit, I failed many times before I started noticing a difference. And sometimes there is just bad luck✌ Next part should be up today and is way more in depth.
@@TheLegendOfFLG yeah 100% it's great, this is how gameplay "tutorial" vids should be. not the normal "this is what i use, this is how i play it, adapt or die". Edit: i'mma sub just because it's quality content
Oh my god, this helped me so much! I’m a greenbeard who used to be completely useless on haz 5, and now I’m pulling similar scores as the veterans. Thank you so much!
Here's a few engie tips: Use incendiary compound on the PGL because the heat has no damage fallof, so with maximum blast radius you can ignite a whole pack when they are walking around on a wall at a weird angle and watch them all burn down before they get you. Combine this with RJ250 and 1 area damage mod and it still works despite the dmg penalty and you end up with a lot of extra ammo and a faster reload + rocket jumping (you also do minimal self damage while rocket jumping because of the damage being turned into heat). If using plascrete catalyst on shard diffractor, use dazzler module. The slowdown keeps them in range and also prevents them from walking onto the platform and blocking you from hitting it. Neuro lasso slowdown makes it easy to line up multiple targets for super blowthrough rounds and can almost completely stop a dreadnaught from moving if you take the "more locks" mod. Shard diffractor and breach cutter are bad against frozen targets (thaws them/doesn't get any dmg bonus), but hyper prop grenades smashes them to bits. Don't use plasma burster grenades. Every other engie grenade does more work. The one thing PB has is that the effect comes out fast, but that still doesn't solve many of the problems in which speed matters. A MUCH better strategy for those situations is to use the dash perk. It recharges fast and it can and will save your ass in so many situations, especially if you jump just before the speed boost runs out to get a long jump out of it.
The only thing wich is true for almost every shooter game is to move constantly. It works for me in Doom, it works for me in Titanfall 2, it works for me in DRG. I would say, that movement and control over your surroundings is much more important than accuracy or damage.
There is precisely one game where I find this to be untrue, WWZ the game. Standing still and taking your shots accurately and consistently are the best way to handle a horde. You can't outmanoeuvre them, they are faster and more numerous. Moving around increases friendly fire chance in that game too.
I have also discovered that if you are using repellent additive for the platform gun you can place a platform below or behind you to delay the bugs enough to escape if they are right behind you.
I see a lot of my friends and people in videos struggling to dodge trijaws, so a quick tip that has helped me very consistently dodge them: walk towards them. Not away, not left, not right, straight at them. The middle shot goes over your head, and the left and right one whiff. Not always viable when getting swarmed, but realizing that has saved me a LOT
As someone who plays WAY too much of this game (level 601, 2 legend 3 dwarves, a legend 1, and a diamond 3) this is pretty spot on and in line with what i did, even down to the point extractions lol 👍
literally the best guide I have ever seen on any game, im so happy its not a specific build and that its a method to help you create a build meant for your unique playstyle
Good series! Greybeard approves this masterclass. Also it's pleasant to hear good stuff about Spinning Death, I like it a lot for the reasons you mentioned and I even combo it with lure nade and stunner. But once I start talking about it among other dwarves all I get is "it's a meme OC" and "there are much better options".
Yeah people like to think there is only one way to be effective in this game but there is not. There is a little bit of a build efficiency thing but then a lot of how you use it. Rock and Stone!
For me it's just that I'm currently too scared to try it out, it's not reliable enough for how I play, so when I play around it it gets me killed. Let me clarify though, the overclock isn't the issue I just have no idea how to use it in a way that benefits me. Anyway all this testing is making me feel bad, so I'll try it later and see how I feel.
Oh my this guide is good. My style revolves largely on keeping the team safe. And preparing escape routes. Build roads, those may save your mission one day.
I'm glad to see someone who understands science! Most people die and rage quit, or tell themselves they know more about the game and don't need improvement, even though these people in most games are nothing but dead weight ... Good to see there are still people willing to put in the effort and show others their journey to mastering the game.
Such a heavy emphasis on Solo survival as the metric for build success seems shortsighted. For example: if you need to defend a location, a build with heavy emphasis on mobility and burst damage, will not fair nearly as well in the cramped zone and constant trickle of enemies. It could be overrun or endanger teammates. More than that, what the team needs from you is not always clutch swarm survival. If a build is designed to quickly and efficiently strip the map of minerals and get the objective done. It can be extremely powerful for team survival as cutting a mission time down by even just 5 minutes could mean dozens or even hundred of fewer enemies encountered especially when you consider that Nitra and red sugar is a finite resource and enemy spawns ramp in intensity with game duration. If you die to a late game swarm consider if your team could have been done with the mission and safely on the pod several minutes ago if only the rest of the mission had been paced more quickly. It also makes selecting for utility perks like field medic pretty much impossible.
1200 hour player, here's what I use: Stubby+EMReFire: CBBBA, PGL+RJ250: BAACB, Turret ABAA, Platform: BAB, Armor: AAAC This set of perks to carry Iron Will, Vampire, Born Ready, Resupplier, Field Medic This set of perks to have fun Iron Will, Vampire, Born Ready, Thorns, Dash If I go shotgun, it's Shotgun+MagneticAlignment: AABBB, or AABBA for turret whip
I'm not exaggerating when I say I probably seen dozens of Deep Rock videos, and none was at this level. Really well explained and edited my man. It probably took you a long time to do it. It's always a nice surprise from small channels like yours to upload such high quality videos. You have a new subscriber. PS. Tonight I'm testing that HAZ 5, solo, no Bosco thing you did. I'll be back with a comment. Lvl 60 by the way, so probably I'll be down in under a min or so, as I'm still learning :D
Don't be discouraged from stupid deaths. They happened to me a bunch of missions. Sometimes there is just bad luck. I really think the pt 2 to this video could be of use to you even if your not there yet. Thank you for the kind words. 🙏 I appreciate it so much. I don't need a lot of subscribers if I have people like you.
One tip I have to improve beginners’ mindsets is to think about the enemies like it is Call of Duty Zombies. That mindset propelled me from a greenbeard to a greybeard almost instantaneously.
Good vid for the greenbeards! This "start with impossible" strategy is the best. I learned it LONG ago when trying to beat (i think) Soul Caliber 3 on its hardest. I played for an hour strait of 1v1s against an AI with max game speed and damage and whatever...basically you have half a second before you are one-hit. When I got to the point that I could survive long enough to just see what could be called a fight, I went back to the campaign...it was a JOKE how easy everything was, I was fighting snails. This is similar in DRG. Fight the impossible then all the non-EDDs you play will feel super casual.
Did mine this morning after seeing this video. 18 mins plus. Just aborted the mission. The first time I lasted 8 mins. Second time 6 mins. I changed my primary weapons abilities and found that Increasing the fire rate and changing grenades to LUREs helped a lot. Thanks for the video!
My go to is stubby 22222 EM for 3 main Reasons, dmg over time, slow, and a AOE. This will slow a whole swarm when used in small controled bursts also give them dmg over time on all of them do to elcetro jumping. Then PGL with 21122 rj-250. This is once again is for dmg over time with fire and being able you just forceable relocate yourself is invaluable. Also with that build the stubby will slow the ghost down of you shoot it!!!!!(dont tell the devs/ Thank you so much for the video and I wil be waiting on more.
After preforming your test haz 5 point ex on hollow bough, my time 9;28, helped in no small part by making high level plateforms that you can jump from and to but bugs can't. If you jump form one place to the next it takes up to 30 secs for bugs to get to you from your other spot. The thing thta killed me was a spitballer that I didn't see :p my build was guns as above axe 13, PG 212, lure, armor 1111, and sweet tooth, vamp, strong arm, dash and iron will which I did not use for test sake. also using a lure right out of the drop pod gives you 20 secs of brething room at the start.
So much valuable information here man, thanks for this comment. Jumping from high platform to high platform is probably the smartest, most effective way to stay alive from melee enemies. They just can't get to you fast enough. This is exactly what I was hoping people would figure out themselves. Your a beast man. Also "being able to just forcibly relocate yourself is invaluable" is something a lot of people could learn from. It's not always about damage, it's often about staying alive. Movement is so important. Well done man✌
Just started Engineer. Started playing with driller but wanted to switch after my first promotion. Needless to say I suck lol. Completely different playstyle big time. Vid was really helpful so thanks. Still haven't even unlocked everything for engineer yet but you showed me a lot of useful things I can do.
as Veteran Dwarf: > Dash perk for everyone except for scout is key. Medic perk is bomb as well. > Remember about escape routes and never corner yourself. Knowing surrounding is most important thing. Keep more in open areas and not in tight cave tunnels unless you know what you doing. > When I try new build, I gradually testing it with each hazard up to 5. But I got comfortable with game so I just jump into haz 5. I think haz 5 can be harder than edd but can screw yourself if your build is too situational (pure boss build for example) although didn't find much trouble with that because TEAM can help with your weakness. > as *Scout*, use grappling hook. As *Gunner*, use zipline to escape horde and somewhat float at top. As *Engineer* and *Driller* keep running in large circle, create your own path if need to. > As horde starts, as *Driller* try to make large space, you can make large pits on walls with C4 so it would force enemies to walk on edges (easier to focus kills). >*Engineer* platforms is nice roof and with mod can help to force horde to change pathways for team to focus on, mostly I put turrets behind the line to protect our back walls. >Scout sticks to team *Gunner* or *Driller* and takes out mostly fliers and spitting enemies first, don't forget about LIGHT. >As *Gunner* using zip above team position can be helpful. *Gunner* can save with SHIELD, new player tend to forget about it unless you scream into microphone. 4 gunner with constant shield is meta. > Best class to save everyone is scout with medic perk, I also use Iron Will with him as well. > *Engineer* is easy to clear swarm from fallen dwarf but I noticed they tend to die quick even tho they have same hp as everyone else is > *Driller* dies most cause of his close combat playstyle, I tend to jump around enemies so they move slower because I set them on fire/ice/poo. I would stick close to gunner or engineer. > Preventing getting all team down is also great idea, sticking together would be good unless your teammate running into a obvious trap so I would defend them from a far.
Just tried this with no turrets and no Bosco and finished at 21:53 with bonus objective on first try, I think I'm ready for step 2 :) Helped me a lot already, because now I have a benchmark and a good process to test new builds against!
🧙♂️yeah that's amazing numbers. Even I failed quite a few times doing this. And yes your right, I've been testing out the new guns this way and it's really helped👌 Have fun rocking and stoning mate⛏🪨
@@TheLegendOfFLG There is also always length, complexity and map generation RNG. So I probably was a little lucky with just 7 Aquarqs and length and complexity being at 2. I became such a fan of your technique that I tried with nearly all my builds and classes already. I had the hardest time so far with the scout. I died in the drop pod countdown on my best try xD PS: I now have factual evidence that the Plasma Carabine is a piece of crap :D
Honestly, no matter if doing something like this helps me get better or not, just loading up PoEx for survival on your own is really fun. Personally I brought an overclockless LOK1/Shard Diffractor/SSG build, and it carried me to 16min handily. I would have never tried doing something as novel as this withoght this video, thanks for that.
I haven't unlocked Haz 5 yet, but when I do (probably after promoting Engi so I have Engi + Driller for deep dives) this is the project that I'm going to jump into right away. In fact, I might do a little bit of this in Haz 4 since I'm currently struggling to consistently beat Haz 4 missions. Edit: I will note that sometimes, fully building for solo and relying on a complete build made for solo could leave you missing critical components when you adjust for MP. The biggest example would be active perks. If you run, say, Heightened Senses + Dash solo but want Field Medic for multiplayer, you'll need to adjust for going without either Heightened Senses or Dash.
In my experience with getting better at anything over the years, and especially at video games, sustained immersion, or at least, immersion achieved more quickly, is the uncontested most important factor... ...so I'm not a fan of the "no Bosco" suggestion. I'd rather have infinite lives, and maybe also a button that clears any currently alive enemies while simultaneously starting a fresh swarm. Time spent not playing is time spent not learning, and you're not playing when you're - waiting on bad load times (if your hardware is poor) or - waiting on long animations telling you that you lost (which are also discouraging) or - navigating through some menus to choose the settings for the next attempt (because they're usually not saved in some way, and entering them again is always slower than it needs to be). I absolutely agree with both the modular approach of "build the fundamentals first", and the old well known method of "increase the difficulty a little bit at a time" (which could have been included in this video as a suggestion to start the movement/other training on h3 or h4), but I can't imagine something like practicing movement would benefit much by having players sit through so much downtime in between time spent practicing. Sure, it's important to stop and tweak your build later on when you're assessing the efficacy of your loadout, but even then, you could just exit the mission manually when you feel it's time to do that, and it may take several failures before you're convinced that the problem is with the build rather than with your usage of it. Punishing failure is never as helpful as rewarding success for people who already punish themselves so much for their failures, which will include anyone who is serious about becoming better at something. I don't want to imagine how bad I would be at programming if, back when I was a teenager teaching myself to program in binary in my head, I had been reprimanded and told "you're not allowed to run your code and see if it works until you learn to use an assembler and build it right", or any other obstacle which would have had me unnecessarily stopping and starting my productivity instead of keeping my flow. I actually hope there's a "Bosco has infinite revive charges" sandbox mod (eventually, if there's not one already) for anyone who wants to speed up their learning experience. A mod to refill ammo at the press of a button would help, too, and there's a mission timer mod that people could use to keep track of how long they're staying alive without restarting the mission. The feedback of going down is helpful enough on its own even without players being kicked out of their training ground. Imagine being sent home from the gym, and told you can't come back for 15 minutes, every time you need to take a bathroom break...you'd never want to try finishing your set there.
At first impression, I though you are Uncle Dane second account since he was made DRG vids before, Your presentation, and of course, the topic of ENGINEER, Good tips partner!
Great video, my only quip is that you didnt mention the best reason to take Proxies. Like the Diller's Impact Axes, you can toss excess ones on the ground before resupplying, stage up a dreadnought arena (or other point to defend), then go pick up your extras you tossed and stage up another area. You get 2 from a resupply, so if you have 3 or 4, toss 1 or 2 down, respectively, where you can get them and bugs won't be likely to trigger them. If they get triggered, oh well, but it's something you can do to make them go even further. Again, great video, I love the process and methodology and honestly had already tried beating my face into the Haz 5 brick wall in a similar manner, but was also not able to sit there and focus on it all day so I forgot about doing it until I saw this video xDx I think I had gotten up to about 4 minutes, messing around with a scout mostly on just trying to get used to increased sensitivity and spider-man-ing my way around the cave with momentum on the grappling hook. I wasnt shooting or anything, JUST getting used to the momentum and sensitivity increase.
Great vid, great concept! A lot of people develop bad habits at lower haz levels, or in teams because they have other people to carry their weaknesses. If everyone tried this out, they'd need to add a hazard 6 and 7 the community would be playing so well.
My recommendation for new players or just people that want to get better is to use versatile builds. Builds good in every scenario using efficient OCs, pack rat, thinned drum walls, stunner things like that
This is more or less what I do for trying out new builds/practicing with specific weapons. I tend to go into 4 egg hunt missions on hazard 6 double enemies. You have a good amount of different types of terrain to test the new build in (starting room is usually the same, small hallways, a big cavern). If I want to test a builds ability to prevent getting overwhelmed, straight into either refinery or point extraction like you show here since there is a huge wave right off the bat. When testing specific things though I'll get the spawn menu mod. For example most recently I've been playing with fighting styles with the BRT electro mines. So I load up a mining mission and spawn 40 slashers in the starting room with me and try to kill them with just the electro mines BRT without using a tunnel or any advantageous terrain. If I win I spawn in 5 more, repeat until I can't win anymore. Then I focus on winning using less and less ammo,and taking fewer and fewer hits. Once I can win with no hits I go back to adding more enemies.
I'm so jealous of those mods!!!! Your a nerd like me then! I always test out everything. Glad to see others do the same. Wasn't sure how people where going to take my methods. But this is legit what I do and it works to help get all the nuance of your build and even moving around.
@@TheLegendOfFLG Here is an example of testing various primaries vs 60 slashers with the spawn menu mod. 60 is the most the vanilla game can spawn, so I figured if I can handle 60 haz 6 slashers with a primary, I can handle anything the vanilla game can throw at me. ruclips.net/video/u2eQ4cuATTk/видео.html. Also something you allude to in your video but don't explicitly call out, when building I try to minimize the amount of attention I need to spend to kill something. That's not a stat that shows in the. In your first example with the trijaws, your conclusion was to focus on the ground and dodging rather than killing them, another alternative correct decision to come to is to find a way to dispose of them, or render them harmless for awhile without spending attention on them so you can spend your attention on the ground enemies. Later on in the video you develop the technique of blocking their sight lines with platforms which is one way to solve that issue. There are a lot of other ways you could solve that issue in your build, or you could load up the spawn menu mod and spawn 1 trijaw and practice dodging it, then add more. Anyway, point is, "attention span required to kill" an explicit parameter I think about when building, how much attention do I have to spend on specific special threats.
@@shotguncrocodile99 yes very perceptive. I didn't expand on that because I want people to be able to figure it out because I have different builds thst work well but I only have 1 build made for mass kills. The rest are for survival but I end up getting most kills anyway. Even though I don't focus on it. Nice video man I wish I could do that! This will make testing the new guns much faster!
I’ve actually had builds that *only* work on haz 5 (specifically shard diffractor feedback loop with biomass converter; on lower difficulties, there just aren’t enough bugs to get value out of the biomass converter)
As you said movement is the key for surviving and any enemy which can slow you down should be your* priority. Bonus: slashers has almost 2x damage over a normal Glyphid. *Yours not team nor Bosco. My time was 19:27 (completing the mission in season 4) with Stubby 23122 Light-Weight and Breach 11122 Inferno
Funny thing, even when I play a Haz4 with warnings and elites that have 200+ levels and their class is Platinum III, I still emerge as the Engineer that mined and killed the most, I outdo Scout and Driller in mining and I outnumber Gunner and Driller in kills, sometimes the other 3's combined kills and mined stuff are under my stats And trust me if you would look at the footage of any of those missions I'm basically doing jack crap, I launch myself at the enemies, I get in front of teammates, I get left behind sometimes, my Sentry is sometimes in spots that aren't as effective as I thought they'd be and sometmes my Cutter Shots don't really kill anything, yet despite all that I still am semi-consistently on the top
I survived 32 minuts, and finish the mission without any trouble. I used loki with explosive chemical rounds and shard difractor with volatine impact reactor
My record: 27:23 Classic hipster build Special powder full damage shotgun Stunnsweeper All the range upgrades for the frapple and the faster hook fly. Double ammo for the Flare-Gun (1 duration one ammo is also viable but if you take double duration you actually loose out on seconds of lighting, trust me i did the math) Perks used: Deep pockets Resupplier Vampire Actives Iron will Heightened senses Iron will + vampire essentially gives you 1 extra life. be aware tho "Surviving" doesnt mean your able too clear out the hordes they will stack up and will fck you up, however i was still able too complete the objectives (not the point of the training but this heavily implies that i am able too pick up team mates with the shotgun and the sweepers, as i could also resupply mid waves and farm aquarq) by kiting too one side of the room then the other, if you get swarmed by neclosytes or macteras use the sweeper for easy kills. The horde will stack up tho and past minute 20 there is no real hope for you killing the swarm, you can keep it down by clearing as much as possible but with this build you definetly wont kill them.
I'm a rank 132 Bronze 3 Engi and got to 26:28 on Hollow Bough without using my turrets :D (but I got some assistance from the minehead killing swarmers every now and then) My weapons were: BACAB Executioner Lok CBBBC Plascrete Catalyst Shard Diffractor AC Pickaxe BAA Platform Gun ABAC Armour Rig Plasma Bursters and my perks were: Born Ready Resupplier Thorns Dash Hover Boots (pretty useless tho)
So dope friend! What you will notice too after doing that type of training is that when your teammates are down on haz 5s, the playstyle is very similar. More difficult but very similar. I find personally that doing no turret training prepares me better for carrying in those specific moments. It also let's you know of your build or playstyle needs some tweaking. Good job bud ⛏️🪨🍻
The best time I got was 20 minutes and 14 seconds. I didnt really do anything special, I just had a granade launcher with maxed out explosion radius, dmg to heat conversion and proxy trigger. Great for dealing with any kind of swarm, flying or not. As for anything else? Run away and shoot them later.
Wow that's impressive! The run away and shoot later thing is key. A lot of people will keep firing but there are often times when you just need to reposition yourself. Movement is so important. I like it👍 I have a second pt to this but you may not even need it friend⛏🪨🍻
Funny enough I'm talking a bit about that in my upcoming grenade video. Deff bring it friend! It's a great grenade that you don't have be good at to use. It does all the work for you. Pairs well with non loki weapons because you can compensate for not having auto aim for things like mactera.
I feel like DSG is one of those games where you don't wanna be a pro. Being a noob and having an increased chance of losing makes it more exciting ahaha
nice video. Really nice tip and way to practice that. I would like to say survival isn't everything. You still need a decent damage output. Unless you are at the end of a mission, you probably need to actually clear out the waves so you can get back to your objective, and if you aren't killing stuff fast enough, its pretty endless (but your ammo is not). Also, you can maybe do this as a team as well. In my mind, you want to specialize a bit - at least for me, it makes it more fun and unique to play the different classes. I usually build my Engi & Gunner for maximum AOE to deal with the large sized swarms that is haz 5, while my scout is a sniper specialist, made to deal with Acid spitters, web spitters, menaces and flyers. Basically anything long range, single target threads that can take out other members of my party. Dealing with those allows the rest of my team to focus on the bulk of foes ahead of them and makes their life a lot easier. but then again, i also die a lot as engi -_-
Pull up difficulty 5 Get in drop pod ready to try and survive Step out into the cave Cave leech hungry Dwarf tasty Drag dwarf through the floor Yum yum tasty tasty
They have said that this probably won’t happen. A shooting range really can’t work because enemies have different health in each hazard level, so what information could be gained from a shooting range that can’t be gained by just jumping into a mission? The devs have also said that perks and weapons are not coded into the space rig so it would require you to load an instance, so at that point you might as just load into a mission
Great video, only thing I really disagree with here is not including the turrets. The turrets are a huge part of the Engineer class and learning how to move around them, keeping them firing, and building them to fit your playstyle is pivotal for the Engineer class. It also means that there are at least 2 overclocks and one weapon build that you're completely ruling out, by not using them right off the bat. If you find yourself needing to set up your turrets mid fight, then you can use the quick build mod, OR you could pair building your turret using your spinning death safe space combo. Learning how to play without the turrets means that you're potentially going to have to learn how to play again with them.
All that is true, the only thing having turrets off the bat does is make it take 3 times as long to figure out if you've got your movment down. Because your turrets will help kill things so efficiently that it simply takes longer before you run into trouble. Especially if you don't have your movement down. I've run with turrets and it just takes longer to learn some simple movement techniques. But that's why I incorporate it at the end, after you've got your movement down. Second reason is to make you think about survival for your build. That's how I carry. Having a build that's more survival based then anything else with tons of practice without my turrets. If you run with them, you will survive for longer making it seem like it's all your skill when really your turrets are getting easy kills making you live longer. Third reason for no turrets is because having turrets in a solo is no where near the same level of intensity as haz 5 with 3 teammates down. Training is pointless when the training isn't similar to the real thing. And unfortunately without mods like 2x enemies, we have to work with what we have on console. 4th reason is because having your turrets when you have 3 teammates down and your trying to carry, is not going to rescue anyone. I Have tons of footage in elite deep dives of me being the only one up and even if I have ammo in the turrets it makes almost no difference unfortunately as you need your teammates to have the correct dps to make it through those high level missions. 1 dwarf on their own just simply isn't enough for certain difficulty levels when they scale to 4 dwarves. It's more about reviving and staying alive then what turret build you can get the most kills with. Not to mention how many times my turrets have no ammo at all when my teammates are down. What are you going to do with no turrets in that situation. Well I know because I've trained for it and don't need to rely on them in order to save the mission and my teammates. And the 5th reason is because once you have got your movement and survival rate down, tweaked your build appropriately, then the final step IS to incorporate your turrets. Because of course they are a major part of being an engineer. But this is how to carry not a beginners course on the engineer. And finally, if your not having any issues carrying in group haz 5s then you probably don't need this lol but for those who are, this is how I trained for it. This is how I learned to carry. Thats all I can do is share what works for me and hope it works for others. Thanks for sharing friend✌
yea, my build might not work for H-5, more to the fact that i just dont play H-5 Right now, its just fun times for me, mainly H-4 cause my friends cant even play H-3 sometimes.
I had 13 minutes but started before watching fully so I thought resupps werent allowed lol. Tho i did have an easier time on the flatter terrain of salt pits.
Sounds like you've already got it down lol one with your build, understanding enemy mechanics, movement. Might not even need my help lol Good job miner👍
This is all the little things, the main thing to remember 1 The higher the hazard level, the faster the mobs their damage increases, the attack speed and the attack radius too 2 Never go far from your team if you are not a scout 3 Do not stand still, movement is life 4 This is a team game you must know your role 5 It is very important to learn to remember landscape features
Depends on the rest of your build. If you have prox mine and weapons you can stand still with, then 2 with defender. But if your moving around often and never in 1 place then single turret. 1 turret is easier to micromanage as well. So it depends on how much you want to be reloading and building them 🙂👍
Hey homie, It's just the "more details" which is x for xbox, which is reload. I actually didn't notice it for a long time and it really helps explain things better and make a better judgment on my build mods.
@@TheLegendOfFLG I hopped into DRG after making that comment and to my absolute surprise I realised I had missed it entirely! It was there all along but only on certain mods. I wish they put it all in the miner;s manual too.
Other then the ones you can buy, the best cosmetics start with scale birgade which is a mission you get after level 100 (could be wrong on that, it's been a long time since doing that) And the rest from cargo creates and the seasonal cosmetics. (Battle pass)
Pin this or I will kill a lootbug
I die a little inside every time I have to take out a lootbug
If I don't slaughter them on every mission I'm having a off day.
Maybe you shouldn’t eat precious minerals if you don’t want to get killed
I like shooting or throwing explosives into large clumps of them to watch gold and nitra go everywhere. (Yes I am on a watchlist thank you)
@@yohannuspistachio Maybe it's like nuts for a squirrel
Teaching a process to improve skill rather than just suggesting a build isn’t common. Good video.
Okay, this is brilliant! Teach a process instead of a specific build (though you point out highly effective stuff you use). This is awesome, will definitely be trying out this process.
Good luck homie👍
Don't be discouraged if it takes a bit, I failed many times before I started noticing a difference. And sometimes there is just bad luck✌
Next part should be up today and is way more in depth.
@@TheLegendOfFLG yeah 100% it's great, this is how gameplay "tutorial" vids should be. not the normal "this is what i use, this is how i play it, adapt or die".
Edit: i'mma sub just because it's quality content
Oh my god, this helped me so much! I’m a greenbeard who used to be completely useless on haz 5, and now I’m pulling similar scores as the veterans. Thank you so much!
You make it worth my time ⛏🪨🍻
Here's a few engie tips: Use incendiary compound on the PGL because the heat has no damage fallof, so with maximum blast radius you can ignite a whole pack when they are walking around on a wall at a weird angle and watch them all burn down before they get you.
Combine this with RJ250 and 1 area damage mod and it still works despite the dmg penalty and you end up with a lot of extra ammo and a faster reload + rocket jumping (you also do minimal self damage while rocket jumping because of the damage being turned into heat).
If using plascrete catalyst on shard diffractor, use dazzler module. The slowdown keeps them in range and also prevents them from walking onto the platform and blocking you from hitting it.
Neuro lasso slowdown makes it easy to line up multiple targets for super blowthrough rounds and can almost completely stop a dreadnaught from moving if you take the "more locks" mod.
Shard diffractor and breach cutter are bad against frozen targets (thaws them/doesn't get any dmg bonus), but hyper prop grenades smashes them to bits.
Don't use plasma burster grenades. Every other engie grenade does more work. The one thing PB has is that the effect comes out fast, but that still doesn't solve many of the problems in which speed matters.
A MUCH better strategy for those situations is to use the dash perk. It recharges fast and it can and will save your ass in so many situations, especially if you jump just before the speed boost runs out to get a long jump out of it.
The only thing wich is true for almost every shooter game is to move constantly. It works for me in Doom, it works for me in Titanfall 2, it works for me in DRG. I would say, that movement and control over your surroundings is much more important than accuracy or damage.
If enemy has projectile hitboxes, you usually have a dodge opportunity -sun tzu
There is precisely one game where I find this to be untrue, WWZ the game. Standing still and taking your shots accurately and consistently are the best way to handle a horde. You can't outmanoeuvre them, they are faster and more numerous. Moving around increases friendly fire chance in that game too.
@@JimJamTheAdmin Different tactics. Nice
I have also discovered that if you are using repellent additive for the platform gun you can place a platform below or behind you to delay the bugs enough to escape if they are right behind you.
I see a lot of my friends and people in videos struggling to dodge trijaws, so a quick tip that has helped me very consistently dodge them: walk towards them. Not away, not left, not right, straight at them. The middle shot goes over your head, and the left and right one whiff. Not always viable when getting swarmed, but realizing that has saved me a LOT
As someone who plays WAY too much of this game (level 601, 2 legend 3 dwarves, a legend 1, and a diamond 3) this is pretty spot on and in line with what i did, even down to the point extractions lol
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literally the best guide I have ever seen on any game, im so happy its not a specific build and that its a method to help you create a build meant for your unique playstyle
Good series! Greybeard approves this masterclass.
Also it's pleasant to hear good stuff about Spinning Death, I like it a lot for the reasons you mentioned and I even combo it with lure nade and stunner. But once I start talking about it among other dwarves all I get is "it's a meme OC" and "there are much better options".
Yeah people like to think there is only one way to be effective in this game but there is not.
There is a little bit of a build efficiency thing but then a lot of how you use it.
Rock and Stone!
For me it's just that I'm currently too scared to try it out, it's not reliable enough for how I play, so when I play around it it gets me killed. Let me clarify though, the overclock isn't the issue I just have no idea how to use it in a way that benefits me. Anyway all this testing is making me feel bad, so I'll try it later and see how I feel.
Oh my this guide is good.
My style revolves largely on keeping the team safe. And preparing escape routes.
Build roads, those may save your mission one day.
This is the highest quality and maybe most usefull video i've seen for DRG. Respect.
I'm glad to see someone who understands science! Most people die and rage quit, or tell themselves they know more about the game and don't need improvement, even though these people in most games are nothing but dead weight ... Good to see there are still people willing to put in the effort and show others their journey to mastering the game.
Such a heavy emphasis on Solo survival as the metric for build success seems shortsighted. For example: if you need to defend a location, a build with heavy emphasis on mobility and burst damage, will not fair nearly as well in the cramped zone and constant trickle of enemies. It could be overrun or endanger teammates.
More than that, what the team needs from you is not always clutch swarm survival. If a build is designed to quickly and efficiently strip the map of minerals and get the objective done. It can be extremely powerful for team survival as cutting a mission time down by even just 5 minutes could mean dozens or even hundred of fewer enemies encountered especially when you consider that Nitra and red sugar is a finite resource and enemy spawns ramp in intensity with game duration. If you die to a late game swarm consider if your team could have been done with the mission and safely on the pod several minutes ago if only the rest of the mission had been paced more quickly.
It also makes selecting for utility perks like field medic pretty much impossible.
1200 hour player, here's what I use:
Stubby+EMReFire: CBBBA, PGL+RJ250: BAACB, Turret ABAA, Platform: BAB, Armor: AAAC
This set of perks to carry
Iron Will, Vampire, Born Ready, Resupplier, Field Medic
This set of perks to have fun
Iron Will, Vampire, Born Ready, Thorns, Dash
If I go shotgun, it's
Shotgun+MagneticAlignment: AABBB, or AABBA for turret whip
Thank you!
Anyone reading this, if your struggling please try these out, they might match your playstyle more and thus improve your survival rate!
I'm not exaggerating when I say I probably seen dozens of Deep Rock videos, and none was at this level. Really well explained and edited my man. It probably took you a long time to do it. It's always a nice surprise from small channels like yours to upload such high quality videos. You have a new subscriber.
PS. Tonight I'm testing that HAZ 5, solo, no Bosco thing you did. I'll be back with a comment. Lvl 60 by the way, so probably I'll be down in under a min or so, as I'm still learning :D
Don't be discouraged from stupid deaths. They happened to me a bunch of missions. Sometimes there is just bad luck. I really think the pt 2 to this video could be of use to you even if your not there yet.
Thank you for the kind words. 🙏 I appreciate it so much. I don't need a lot of subscribers if I have people like you.
@@TheLegendOfFLG That was a nice thing to say. You're welcome buddy.
I already saw pt 2 to this video. Really good stuff in there. Rock and stone !
One tip I have to improve beginners’ mindsets is to think about the enemies like it is Call of Duty Zombies. That mindset propelled me from a greenbeard to a greybeard almost instantaneously.
Good vid for the greenbeards!
This "start with impossible" strategy is the best. I learned it LONG ago when trying to beat (i think) Soul Caliber 3 on its hardest. I played for an hour strait of 1v1s against an AI with max game speed and damage and whatever...basically you have half a second before you are one-hit. When I got to the point that I could survive long enough to just see what could be called a fight, I went back to the campaign...it was a JOKE how easy everything was, I was fighting snails.
This is similar in DRG. Fight the impossible then all the non-EDDs you play will feel super casual.
I did the same thing in the flash game “Art of War”. I played against the impossible AI until I was able to beat it.
Did mine this morning after seeing this video. 18 mins plus. Just aborted the mission. The first time I lasted 8 mins. Second time 6 mins. I changed my primary weapons abilities and found that Increasing the fire rate and changing grenades to LUREs helped a lot. Thanks for the video!
Man I'm so excited for this series, it's just what I've been looking for recently.
So many insightful points in the comments too!
Rock and Stone!
Meticulous. One of the best how to videos I've seen in years on any subject. Subscribed
My go to is stubby 22222 EM for 3 main Reasons, dmg over time, slow, and a AOE. This will slow a whole swarm when used in small controled bursts also give them dmg over time on all of them do to elcetro jumping. Then PGL with 21122 rj-250. This is once again is for dmg over time with fire and being able you just forceable relocate yourself is invaluable. Also with that build the stubby will slow the ghost down of you shoot it!!!!!(dont tell the devs/ Thank you so much for the video and I wil be waiting on more.
After preforming your test haz 5 point ex on hollow bough, my time 9;28, helped in no small part by making high level plateforms that you can jump from and to but bugs can't. If you jump form one place to the next it takes up to 30 secs for bugs to get to you from your other spot. The thing thta killed me was a spitballer that I didn't see :p my build was guns as above axe 13, PG 212, lure, armor 1111, and sweet tooth, vamp, strong arm, dash and iron will which I did not use for test sake. also using a lure right out of the drop pod gives you 20 secs of brething room at the start.
So much valuable information here man, thanks for this comment.
Jumping from high platform to high platform is probably the smartest, most effective way to stay alive from melee enemies. They just can't get to you fast enough. This is exactly what I was hoping people would figure out themselves. Your a beast man.
Also "being able to just forcibly relocate yourself is invaluable" is something a lot of people could learn from. It's not always about damage, it's often about staying alive. Movement is so important.
Well done man✌
Just started Engineer. Started playing with driller but wanted to switch after my first promotion. Needless to say I suck lol. Completely different playstyle big time. Vid was really helpful so thanks. Still haven't even unlocked everything for engineer yet but you showed me a lot of useful things I can do.
I’m excited for this series, I’ve been wanting some high skill DRG videos to watch
as Veteran Dwarf:
> Dash perk for everyone except for scout is key. Medic perk is bomb as well.
> Remember about escape routes and never corner yourself. Knowing surrounding is most important thing. Keep more in open areas and not in tight cave tunnels unless you know what you doing.
> When I try new build, I gradually testing it with each hazard up to 5. But I got comfortable with game so I just jump into haz 5. I think haz 5 can be harder than edd but can screw yourself if your build is too situational (pure boss build for example) although didn't find much trouble with that because TEAM can help with your weakness.
> as *Scout*, use grappling hook. As *Gunner*, use zipline to escape horde and somewhat float at top. As *Engineer* and *Driller* keep running in large circle, create your own path if need to.
> As horde starts, as *Driller* try to make large space, you can make large pits on walls with C4 so it would force enemies to walk on edges (easier to focus kills).
>*Engineer* platforms is nice roof and with mod can help to force horde to change pathways for team to focus on, mostly I put turrets behind the line to protect our back walls.
>Scout sticks to team *Gunner* or *Driller* and takes out mostly fliers and spitting enemies first, don't forget about LIGHT.
>As *Gunner* using zip above team position can be helpful. *Gunner* can save with SHIELD, new player tend to forget about it unless you scream into microphone. 4 gunner with constant shield is meta.
> Best class to save everyone is scout with medic perk, I also use Iron Will with him as well.
> *Engineer* is easy to clear swarm from fallen dwarf but I noticed they tend to die quick even tho they have same hp as everyone else is
> *Driller* dies most cause of his close combat playstyle, I tend to jump around enemies so they move slower because I set them on fire/ice/poo. I would stick close to gunner or engineer.
> Preventing getting all team down is also great idea, sticking together would be good unless your teammate running into a obvious trap so I would defend them from a far.
Just tried this with no turrets and no Bosco and finished at 21:53 with bonus objective on first try, I think I'm ready for step 2 :)
Helped me a lot already, because now I have a benchmark and a good process to test new builds against!
🧙♂️yeah that's amazing numbers. Even I failed quite a few times doing this.
And yes your right, I've been testing out the new guns this way and it's really helped👌
Have fun rocking and stoning mate⛏🪨
@@TheLegendOfFLG There is also always length, complexity and map generation RNG. So I probably was a little lucky with just 7 Aquarqs and length and complexity being at 2.
I became such a fan of your technique that I tried with nearly all my builds and classes already. I had the hardest time so far with the scout. I died in the drop pod countdown on my best try xD
PS: I now have factual evidence that the Plasma Carabine is a piece of crap :D
@@TheLegendOfFLG Btw, total respect for playing and doing this on console, I am not even able to not aim at the ceiling with a controller xD
@@gro967 thanks brother. It's a hard knock life for us
Honestly, no matter if doing something like this helps me get better or not, just loading up PoEx for survival on your own is really fun.
Personally I brought an overclockless LOK1/Shard Diffractor/SSG build, and it carried me to 16min handily.
I would have never tried doing something as novel as this withoght this video, thanks for that.
Thanks friend!
I do this still today to test builds. It determines what mods I change or perks I bring.
Im an engie main.
I hate "stand still strats" (bunkers and platform bases). Movement is key
I haven't unlocked Haz 5 yet, but when I do (probably after promoting Engi so I have Engi + Driller for deep dives) this is the project that I'm going to jump into right away. In fact, I might do a little bit of this in Haz 4 since I'm currently struggling to consistently beat Haz 4 missions.
Edit: I will note that sometimes, fully building for solo and relying on a complete build made for solo could leave you missing critical components when you adjust for MP. The biggest example would be active perks. If you run, say, Heightened Senses + Dash solo but want Field Medic for multiplayer, you'll need to adjust for going without either Heightened Senses or Dash.
This is a great series! Your voice and delivery reminds me of TFtuber, Uncle Dane. Keep it up!
I use almost that same shotgun build! I'm glad to see that it turns out to be recommended by the pros
In my experience with getting better at anything over the years, and especially at video games, sustained immersion, or at least, immersion achieved more quickly, is the uncontested most important factor...
...so I'm not a fan of the "no Bosco" suggestion. I'd rather have infinite lives, and maybe also a button that clears any currently alive enemies while simultaneously starting a fresh swarm.
Time spent not playing is time spent not learning, and you're not playing when you're
- waiting on bad load times (if your hardware is poor) or
- waiting on long animations telling you that you lost (which are also discouraging) or
- navigating through some menus to choose the settings for the next attempt (because they're usually not saved in some way, and entering them again is always slower than it needs to be).
I absolutely agree with both the modular approach of "build the fundamentals first", and the old well known method of "increase the difficulty a little bit at a time" (which could have been included in this video as a suggestion to start the movement/other training on h3 or h4), but I can't imagine something like practicing movement would benefit much by having players sit through so much downtime in between time spent practicing. Sure, it's important to stop and tweak your build later on when you're assessing the efficacy of your loadout, but even then, you could just exit the mission manually when you feel it's time to do that, and it may take several failures before you're convinced that the problem is with the build rather than with your usage of it.
Punishing failure is never as helpful as rewarding success for people who already punish themselves so much for their failures, which will include anyone who is serious about becoming better at something. I don't want to imagine how bad I would be at programming if, back when I was a teenager teaching myself to program in binary in my head, I had been reprimanded and told "you're not allowed to run your code and see if it works until you learn to use an assembler and build it right", or any other obstacle which would have had me unnecessarily stopping and starting my productivity instead of keeping my flow.
I actually hope there's a "Bosco has infinite revive charges" sandbox mod (eventually, if there's not one already) for anyone who wants to speed up their learning experience. A mod to refill ammo at the press of a button would help, too, and there's a mission timer mod that people could use to keep track of how long they're staying alive without restarting the mission. The feedback of going down is helpful enough on its own even without players being kicked out of their training ground. Imagine being sent home from the gym, and told you can't come back for 15 minutes, every time you need to take a bathroom break...you'd never want to try finishing your set there.
Practicing by surviving as long as you can in solo haz 5 is genius
We need more of these, I love ur content ❤️
That means a lot man, I appreciate you 🙏
Don't try to beat this mission: [Visible confusion]
Don't bring bosco: [Visual sadness]
Nice vid man a lot of good advice I didn’t think about. Gonna use it for sure.
At first impression, I though you are Uncle Dane second account since he was made DRG vids before, Your presentation, and of course, the topic of ENGINEER, Good tips partner!
Great video, this helped teach me how much more I could utilize momentum and my platforms more efficiently to escape from danger, thanks!
Great video, my only quip is that you didnt mention the best reason to take Proxies. Like the Diller's Impact Axes, you can toss excess ones on the ground before resupplying, stage up a dreadnought arena (or other point to defend), then go pick up your extras you tossed and stage up another area. You get 2 from a resupply, so if you have 3 or 4, toss 1 or 2 down, respectively, where you can get them and bugs won't be likely to trigger them. If they get triggered, oh well, but it's something you can do to make them go even further.
Again, great video, I love the process and methodology and honestly had already tried beating my face into the Haz 5 brick wall in a similar manner, but was also not able to sit there and focus on it all day so I forgot about doing it until I saw this video xDx I think I had gotten up to about 4 minutes, messing around with a scout mostly on just trying to get used to increased sensitivity and spider-man-ing my way around the cave with momentum on the grappling hook. I wasnt shooting or anything, JUST getting used to the momentum and sensitivity increase.
I agree that teaching a process is way better than just a build. It's a more effective way in general imo and how most guides should work.
Well articulated!
That clickbait kill counter is a real leaf lover move...
Great vid, great concept! A lot of people develop bad habits at lower haz levels, or in teams because they have other people to carry their weaknesses. If everyone tried this out, they'd need to add a hazard 6 and 7 the community would be playing so well.
Thanks for making this!
So in the end you just gave us all a prime example on the scientific method.
My recommendation for new players or just people that want to get better is to use versatile builds. Builds good in every scenario using efficient OCs, pack rat, thinned drum walls, stunner things like that
This is more or less what I do for trying out new builds/practicing with specific weapons. I tend to go into 4 egg hunt missions on hazard 6 double enemies. You have a good amount of different types of terrain to test the new build in (starting room is usually the same, small hallways, a big cavern). If I want to test a builds ability to prevent getting overwhelmed, straight into either refinery or point extraction like you show here since there is a huge wave right off the bat. When testing specific things though I'll get the spawn menu mod. For example most recently I've been playing with fighting styles with the BRT electro mines. So I load up a mining mission and spawn 40 slashers in the starting room with me and try to kill them with just the electro mines BRT without using a tunnel or any advantageous terrain. If I win I spawn in 5 more, repeat until I can't win anymore. Then I focus on winning using less and less ammo,and taking fewer and fewer hits. Once I can win with no hits I go back to adding more enemies.
I'm so jealous of those mods!!!!
Your a nerd like me then! I always test out everything.
Glad to see others do the same. Wasn't sure how people where going to take my methods. But this is legit what I do and it works to help get all the nuance of your build and even moving around.
@@TheLegendOfFLG Here is an example of testing various primaries vs 60 slashers with the spawn menu mod. 60 is the most the vanilla game can spawn, so I figured if I can handle 60 haz 6 slashers with a primary, I can handle anything the vanilla game can throw at me. ruclips.net/video/u2eQ4cuATTk/видео.html.
Also something you allude to in your video but don't explicitly call out, when building I try to minimize the amount of attention I need to spend to kill something. That's not a stat that shows in the. In your first example with the trijaws, your conclusion was to focus on the ground and dodging rather than killing them, another alternative correct decision to come to is to find a way to dispose of them, or render them harmless for awhile without spending attention on them so you can spend your attention on the ground enemies. Later on in the video you develop the technique of blocking their sight lines with platforms which is one way to solve that issue. There are a lot of other ways you could solve that issue in your build, or you could load up the spawn menu mod and spawn 1 trijaw and practice dodging it, then add more. Anyway, point is, "attention span required to kill" an explicit parameter I think about when building, how much attention do I have to spend on specific special threats.
@@shotguncrocodile99 yes very perceptive. I didn't expand on that because I want people to be able to figure it out because I have different builds thst work well but I only have 1 build made for mass kills. The rest are for survival but I end up getting most kills anyway. Even though I don't focus on it.
Nice video man I wish I could do that!
This will make testing the new guns much faster!
I’ve actually had builds that *only* work on haz 5 (specifically shard diffractor feedback loop with biomass converter; on lower difficulties, there just aren’t enough bugs to get value out of the biomass converter)
As you said movement is the key for surviving and any enemy which can slow you down should be your* priority. Bonus: slashers has almost 2x damage over a normal Glyphid.
*Yours not team nor Bosco.
My time was 19:27 (completing the mission in season 4) with Stubby 23122 Light-Weight and Breach 11122 Inferno
Wonderful video bro the terminator
This video is well funny man. You are a funny guy! Rock and Stone!
Me: digging down closing myself in the hole for infinite survival time
Funny thing, even when I play a Haz4 with warnings and elites that have 200+ levels and their class is Platinum III, I still emerge as the Engineer that mined and killed the most, I outdo Scout and Driller in mining and I outnumber Gunner and Driller in kills, sometimes the other 3's combined kills and mined stuff are under my stats
And trust me if you would look at the footage of any of those missions I'm basically doing jack crap, I launch myself at the enemies, I get in front of teammates, I get left behind sometimes, my Sentry is sometimes in spots that aren't as effective as I thought they'd be and sometmes my Cutter Shots don't really kill anything, yet despite all that I still am semi-consistently on the top
Dude this vid is very rock and stone
thanks, now I know what to do if I'm bored
This was about step by step how I came to develop my skills with rj250 oh so long ago. Trial and error, survival, revise, try again
I survived 32 minuts, and finish the mission without any trouble. I used loki with explosive chemical rounds and shard difractor with volatine impact reactor
My record: 27:23
Classic hipster build
Special powder full damage shotgun
Stunnsweeper
All the range upgrades for the frapple and the faster hook fly.
Double ammo for the Flare-Gun (1 duration one ammo is also viable but if you take double duration you actually loose out on seconds of lighting, trust me i did the math)
Perks used:
Deep pockets
Resupplier
Vampire
Actives
Iron will
Heightened senses
Iron will + vampire essentially gives you 1 extra life.
be aware tho "Surviving" doesnt mean your able too clear out the hordes they will stack up and will fck you up, however i was still able too complete the objectives (not the point of the training but this heavily implies that i am able too pick up team mates with the shotgun and the sweepers, as i could also resupply mid waves and farm aquarq) by kiting too one side of the room then the other, if you get swarmed by neclosytes or macteras use the sweeper for easy kills.
The horde will stack up tho and past minute 20 there is no real hope for you killing the swarm, you can keep it down by clearing as much as possible but with this build you definetly wont kill them.
I'm a rank 132 Bronze 3 Engi and got to 26:28 on Hollow Bough without using my turrets :D (but I got some assistance from the minehead killing swarmers every now and then)
My weapons were:
BACAB Executioner Lok
CBBBC Plascrete Catalyst Shard Diffractor
AC Pickaxe
BAA Platform Gun
ABAC Armour Rig
Plasma Bursters
and my perks were:
Born Ready
Resupplier
Thorns
Dash
Hover Boots (pretty useless tho)
So dope friend!
What you will notice too after doing that type of training is that when your teammates are down on haz 5s, the playstyle is very similar. More difficult but very similar.
I find personally that doing no turret training prepares me better for carrying in those specific moments.
It also let's you know of your build or playstyle needs some tweaking.
Good job bud ⛏️🪨🍻
@@TheLegendOfFLG thanks!
The best time I got was 20 minutes and 14 seconds. I didnt really do anything special, I just had a granade launcher with maxed out explosion radius, dmg to heat conversion and proxy trigger. Great for dealing with any kind of swarm, flying or not.
As for anything else? Run away and shoot them later.
Wow that's impressive!
The run away and shoot later thing is key. A lot of people will keep firing but there are often times when you just need to reposition yourself. Movement is so important.
I like it👍
I have a second pt to this but you may not even need it friend⛏🪨🍻
Grey beard approved teaching method
Question, with the new update, season 3 update, engineer got the shredder grenade would that be in the bosco/ turret area which you would not bring
Funny enough I'm talking a bit about that in my upcoming grenade video.
Deff bring it friend! It's a great grenade that you don't have be good at to use. It does all the work for you. Pairs well with non loki weapons because you can compensate for not having auto aim for things like mactera.
I saw your video and tried to survive haz 5 without turrets. I was alive for 21:58))
Pretty interesting ;-)
I feel like DSG is one of those games where you don't wanna be a pro. Being a noob and having an increased chance of losing makes it more exciting ahaha
Top notch info and demo. Engineer is the master class no doubt.
My deaths have been from "Surprise MF" Leeches that reach thru the ceiling or wall.
I have turret related build and just cant leave turrets in pockets
I have rocket jumper, mini shells shotgun with turret whip and swarmers nade
can you list your cosmetics on your engie? plus armor skin
Grim specter full face helmet, mk2 armor, (not sure) dark future paintjob
nice video. Really nice tip and way to practice that.
I would like to say survival isn't everything. You still need a decent damage output. Unless you are at the end of a mission, you probably need to actually clear out the waves so you can get back to your objective, and if you aren't killing stuff fast enough, its pretty endless (but your ammo is not).
Also, you can maybe do this as a team as well. In my mind, you want to specialize a bit - at least for me, it makes it more fun and unique to play the different classes.
I usually build my Engi & Gunner for maximum AOE to deal with the large sized swarms that is haz 5, while my scout is a sniper specialist, made to deal with Acid spitters, web spitters, menaces and flyers. Basically anything long range, single target threads that can take out other members of my party. Dealing with those allows the rest of my team to focus on the bulk of foes ahead of them and makes their life a lot easier.
but then again, i also die a lot as engi -_-
Good advice for beginners 👍
Just gonna point out the kills and minerals mined on the thumbnail is the same as the one on the scout guide so...
Pull up difficulty 5
Get in drop pod ready to try and survive
Step out into the cave
Cave leech hungry
Dwarf tasty
Drag dwarf through the floor
Yum yum tasty tasty
Did he make a gunner masterclass video?
Not bad, for a leaf lover.
Really hope the devs add a shooting range to test weapons
They have said that this probably won’t happen. A shooting range really can’t work because enemies have different health in each hazard level, so what information could be gained from a shooting range that can’t be gained by just jumping into a mission? The devs have also said that perks and weapons are not coded into the space rig so it would require you to load an instance, so at that point you might as just load into a mission
Great video, only thing I really disagree with here is not including the turrets. The turrets are a huge part of the Engineer class and learning how to move around them, keeping them firing, and building them to fit your playstyle is pivotal for the Engineer class. It also means that there are at least 2 overclocks and one weapon build that you're completely ruling out, by not using them right off the bat. If you find yourself needing to set up your turrets mid fight, then you can use the quick build mod, OR you could pair building your turret using your spinning death safe space combo. Learning how to play without the turrets means that you're potentially going to have to learn how to play again with them.
All that is true, the only thing having turrets off the bat does is make it take 3 times as long to figure out if you've got your movment down. Because your turrets will help kill things so efficiently that it simply takes longer before you run into trouble. Especially if you don't have your movement down. I've run with turrets and it just takes longer to learn some simple movement techniques. But that's why I incorporate it at the end, after you've got your movement down.
Second reason is to make you think about survival for your build. That's how I carry. Having a build that's more survival based then anything else with tons of practice without my turrets.
If you run with them, you will survive for longer making it seem like it's all your skill when really your turrets are getting easy kills making you live longer.
Third reason for no turrets is because having turrets in a solo is no where near the same level of intensity as haz 5 with 3 teammates down. Training is pointless when the training isn't similar to the real thing. And unfortunately without mods like 2x enemies, we have to work with what we have on console.
4th reason is because having your turrets when you have 3 teammates down and your trying to carry, is not going to rescue anyone. I Have tons of footage in elite deep dives of me being the only one up and even if I have ammo in the turrets it makes almost no difference unfortunately as you need your teammates to have the correct dps to make it through those high level missions. 1 dwarf on their own just simply isn't enough for certain difficulty levels when they scale to 4 dwarves. It's more about reviving and staying alive then what turret build you can get the most kills with.
Not to mention how many times my turrets have no ammo at all when my teammates are down. What are you going to do with no turrets in that situation. Well I know because I've trained for it and don't need to rely on them in order to save the mission and my teammates.
And the 5th reason is because once you have got your movement and survival rate down, tweaked your build appropriately, then the final step IS to incorporate your turrets.
Because of course they are a major part of being an engineer. But this is how to carry not a beginners course on the engineer.
And finally, if your not having any issues carrying in group haz 5s then you probably don't need this lol but for those who are, this is how I trained for it. This is how I learned to carry.
Thats all I can do is share what works for me and hope it works for others.
Thanks for sharing friend✌
i still don't know how to use bosco
yea, my build might not work for H-5, more to the fact that i just dont play H-5 Right now, its just fun times for me, mainly H-4 cause my friends cant even play H-3 sometimes.
And that's all that matters man! I ebony playing 4 BECAUSE I can use so many different builds!
It's all fun and games at the end if the day isn't it.
1:48 what’s this song it sounds familiar
I had 13 minutes but started before watching fully so I thought resupps werent allowed lol. Tho i did have an easier time on the flatter terrain of salt pits.
Sounds like you've already got it down lol one with your build, understanding enemy mechanics, movement.
Might not even need my help lol
Good job miner👍
What helmet and paint job? is that at the beginning?
This is all the little things, the main thing to remember 1 The higher the hazard level, the faster the mobs their damage increases, the attack speed and the attack radius too 2 Never go far from your team if you are not a scout 3 Do not stand still, movement is life 4 This is a team game you must know your role 5 It is very important to learn to remember landscape features
Tried this and got 1h 8m and i died due to not enough ammo killed 2 bulks tho
You can completely forgo the Born ready perk if you learn reload skipping. It reduces your reload time to negligible durations.
Small question do you recommend twin turrets or one turret
Depends on the rest of your build. If you have prox mine and weapons you can stand still with, then 2 with defender. But if your moving around often and never in 1 place then single turret.
1 turret is easier to micromanage as well. So it depends on how much you want to be reloading and building them 🙂👍
Can you go over your armor that has the all black and the metal beard ?
Helmet is Grim Specter full face, from the forge. Armor is MK2 with (not sure) dark future paintjob, from the DLC.
what's going on at 4:50 ? I play on PC and never had that much information about electricity and what a mod actually does..
Hey homie, It's just the "more details" which is x for xbox, which is reload. I actually didn't notice it for a long time and it really helps explain things better and make a better judgment on my build mods.
@@TheLegendOfFLG I hopped into DRG after making that comment and to my absolute surprise I realised I had missed it entirely! It was there all along but only on certain mods. I wish they put it all in the miner;s manual too.
1:04 hey, can anyone help me find this black paint job? I’ve searched everywhere and can’t find a single thing on how to get it
I am pretty sure it is the dark future paintjob, from the DLC.
Rank 169, 11:40, Has 5, Ice map, To bulks 8min in, No tourist No Bosco
Do you have a discord and are you playing on console or just with a controller?
Fourleafsober#3128
On console good sir✌
The thumbnail shows Gunner wtf?
When you play with controller F
First attempt. 3:40....not Bad
Second. 0:37...bunch of macteras🤣
5 sec am I cooked?
Cant find Master Class: Gunner . Is it Made yet?
Saving best for last mate👌
Sorry it's taking so long.
I've got tons of content on the way.
@@TheLegendOfFLG NP Dude, im Just a Gunner looking out for a great MasterClass: Zimmer Video Form you 🤙
Right now im Sharing your Content with my Mates to spread your great Stuff
🤜🤛
@@madhoshy9164 your a real one bro🍻⛏🪨
@@TheLegendOfFLG My pleasure!
how do you get good cosmetics?
Other then the ones you can buy, the best cosmetics start with scale birgade which is a mission you get after level 100 (could be wrong on that, it's been a long time since doing that)
And the rest from cargo creates and the seasonal cosmetics. (Battle pass)
Step 1: have a decent computer
*cough*
new sub UwU
Man... You guys might have stayed way longer than necessary if you're fighting that many bugs. On haz 5 no less I assume.
I feel like the engineer is a generic version of the gunner, meant for decent firepower, but not quite enough as the gunner though.