What's Education For?
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2015
- The greatest problem of the modern education system is that it doesn't focus on systematically preparing students for many aspects of the real challenge out there: Life itself.
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I'm glad I live in the age of the internet. I learn every day. I've never stopped being a student.
RyanBurke Hear, hear... I've taught myself more in the last 2 years - just from youtube instructional videos then I learned in all my years at school.
Still I do miss being surrounded by hundreds of girls of the same age. No wonder I didn't learn anything.
RyanBurke Or you can, go to the library.
Johnny with a Shotgun Yeah, I miss that too!
ThePeaceableKingdom To the good ol' days...
As someone in the late stages of the formal education system, it seems downright bizarre that people could ever stop, or rather, deprioritise learning to such a degree that they're effectively stagnant.
Of course, people learn passively of current events: of who's performing well in the sports league, who said what, what the price of a box of teabags are, but we separate that learning from education: of actively pursuing a skill, of trying to find out more about a topic, of enhancing one's knowledge of the world.
I don't think I could ever stop learning. 'Life' may pose an obstacle to greater and lesser degrees as time goes on, but the impulse to learn is surely too great.
I feel when children are going to school, they start to loose their curiosity of the World because all of it is explained by teachers who say that it is the truth without letting the child learn how to reason it out on their own.
Funny thing is, in my classes, the teachers tend to encourage us to ask but when we ask they say it is dumb or irrelevant. When we try to say that they may be wrong, they say that it's in the textbook or they know better than we do, which leads us to become scared to ask or wonder. We loose our sense of wonder through the education we have currently.
This!
Exactly, whenever ask a question it is always "irrelevant"
Or they say your wrong!!! especially when some of the subjects are theory's!!
Sad
Couldn't agree more! That's how I always felt in school.
I couldn't disagree more. The goal of education should NOT be about creating workers or psychoanalyzing students desires and relationships! The goal of education is to foster intellectual curiosity that in turn results in a student loving to learn for the rest of their lives. Properly delivered education is akin to "laying out a string" by the teacher where through questioning and guidance the students follow the "string" while drawing their own conclusions becoming free thinkers and problem solvers capable of discerning, through group/democratic debate, between rational and irrational explanations. Students should NOT memorize math but instead be challenged to discover and understand the underlying principles, thus able to solve any problem presented. Each students should be free to pursue, and be encouraged to pursue, subjects and problems that interest them rather than objective based learning where the learning goals are chiseled in stone through a curriculum created by administrators and politicians. A class should NOT be about what is covered in a course, but instead what is discovered in a course. Teachers should NOT be the sage on the stage, but instead the guide on the side.
Sadly, I can only like this comment once.
Preach.
I totally agree, yet i dont believe that cant coexist with these ideas as well. Your thoughts matched together with this video says so much about what i want to see. The sage and guide comment was brilliant.
The sad thing is (or at least in my country), the students don't follow the string and often cut it. Education simply isn't that interesting in the way teachers or schools do it now.
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HONEST OPINION: if u plan to buy an island and start ur own civilization I WILL BACK U UP ALL THE WAY MY MAN...not that buying an island will free u from govt influences but hey
***** yea i come too but i need the internet for league
+shreddedreams dont you think that living in the rainforest wpuld be just sooo simpler...no jobs, no homeworks and you just enjoy life...its perfect!!
i mean that sounds pretty great until u get bitten by some deadly poinsonous organism...... rip
+Cody Schneider venomous*
Well he said "bitten by some deadly poinsonous organism". if he had wrote about eating a poisonous organism then it would be correct but he wrote about being bitten by one. I don't understand why you have to attack me, there is a difference between poisonous and venomous, and I think it's good to know. I didn't even realise he spelled poisonous wrong and wouldn't have corrected him on that even if I did. I don't see why he shouldn't learn the difference and if he chooses to ignore me then he's just being ignorant.
I personally believe children and students should be taught to think for themselves. They should learn to debate, solve problems and be encouraged
Yea but that ain't gonna happen parents are already brainwashed by the school system
u cannot teach solving problems wtf is going on in ur head????
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Me not getting good grades in online classes
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not loner about that bro
#propelthylearning
How bad is school system if after 9 - 11 years of "learning" people graduate with zero market value, extinguished curiosity and psychological traumas from bullying?
It won't change by addition of "personal finances" and "basic psychology" classes.
Enke796 I´m only in 8th grade, and I´ve already been sent twice to a therapist because i attaced those who were bullying me
BaBiK studios Man sorry to hear that :(
keltic07 well, i just feel lucky that i changed schools last year
BaBiK studios They tried to throw me out in middle school and high school when I fought back when people were bullying my brother and I. Nobody would do anything.
Rynn Hamilton Besides, any time we told our parents and they talked to the administration, the bullying got worse
High school became less stressful the moment I realized its just a day care on steroids
+jacob massengale This is so true, nobody cares about the real purpose of education in high schools: the search for knowledge. It seems like the true goal is to teach how to obey and fit the system.
Depends. It depends on you, belive it or not.
I always have tried hard to actually LEARN something in school, to ask more questions, pay more attention, and study way more than required.
I belive I have gained plenty of knowledge in high school, even though I can agree that most of the times, high school oftenly looks like day care for teenagers.
+Kalyan Arc How would geniuses fit in? When I was in 6th grade I was at college level (12th grade math, didn't learn trig) I think we need to teach logic.
Hopefully, someone of the wiser professors would notice the genius kid, and other educational organs would push the kid to his/her apropriate level.
lmao same and sooo true
I'll tell you what's crazy. Having a timer on an exam session. It's not a race...
Daniel M If it is to test our knowledge, there is no reason to take our paper away when we say "I do know. Just let me put the freaking answers in."
But that builds our speed.even if u know everything, a company might not i
hire u cause u take ur own sweet time to do it.
#justsayin'
@@manoharisaravanan6590 90% of jobs don't really require a great deal of intelligence, they are just repetition. Being a brain surgeon is only hard the first couple of operations which shouldn't be that hard if you studied it for 5 years. If someone dies on the table it's not like they can come after you.
A soldier or police officer that has a second to call a situation that could involve loss of life and danger to himself or colleagues would need mental speed. Even then if it looks dangerous the sensible money would shoot first and ask questions later.
If you are an aircraft engineer calculating the detonation times on bombs for a mission that needs to scramble then metal speed would be pretty important. Or a formula 1 engineer reading the datalogger in the pits after warm up before a race and needing to make adjustments.
@CAT MOUSE That tells you that schools and universities are insane and the public must raise the issue all the way.
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Education isn't just about getting knowledge but also gives rise to exploring what one might do in future.
It's official. I'm opening a school like this if I'm rich when I'm older. Or maybe even if I'm poor. I really don't care, I just want a school like this.
Take me in your team please 😁
#propelthylearning
so you did it yet?
#odiaselfeducation
did u do it!?
I am a teacher. I love my job and I need to tell you this is happening in schools. It is pushed for students to learn and understand life problems. We call it the "hidden curriculum". It is what teachers facilitate in their classrooms. Teachers put students in many situations and help guide them in appropriate ways. Or guidance about finding themselves and their interests. Or understanding money (which is definitely in the curriculum). You are correct it is NOT as blatant as this example and I wish it were more but your next video I would love to see your solution to this problem. The education system knows this is where we want to go. They just don't know how.
+Cailen Stewart As a parent of a 13 year old boy, thank you for your service.
+Cailen Stewart As a respectable, responsible, appreciator of teacherishness that I am... That means that you schooled them right? ... or, or no? I really don't know. I need schooling.
Well i dont know what school you teach at, but none if my teachers did anything like that. Most humanness i saw was a few high school teachers that made a lot of adult jokes and what not. Everything else was very boring and strict. Nothing was taught in socials besides socials. I couldnt give a damn wjo the prime minister was in 1918
+Besart Copa: Firstly like I said earlier the things this video is talking about and what you are speaking about is exactly what the education system is moving towards. We want kids to become active thinkers in situations. Like I said in my school in Canada we are doing this. We facilitate these situations in our hidden curriculum. You are right socioeconomics still plays a huge role. The idea of individualism is good and bad. Gives kids the power to strive for what they want, uniqueness but it also gives this idea that parents think their child is so special that they shouldn't fail and/or don't do wrong. Failing is really important... It is how we learn.
Maybe I should have phrased it differently. They don't know how to make the change quickly. Like any change it is slow and progressive. What education is and where they want to go is a HUGE change. So yes it is 2016 and you seem to think that we should be farther than where we are but like any change that takes time. Part of the problem things aren't changing quicker is because of Universities. Elementary to Highschool has figured it out but Universities still like their fancy degrees and money. They need to make a change as well but they aren't and show no signs that they want to. Our system as of now is satisfying what universities want while still trying to make change to educate children how they should. It is a difficult task.
+Cailen Stewart what do you teach?
This video speaks to my soul! I'm training to be a teacher at the moment and it's not what I imagined. I don't feel like it's what I should do with my life but this video has revived me slightly and reminded me that this was/is my vision and not to be bogged down by the current system. Awesome videos!
Every single one of these videos is perfectly made, with amazing points. Everything is so well thought out! These videos make the world a better place.
#propelthylearning
I honestly think the school I went to was one of, if not, the best school in the world. All my classmates, the quiet shy ones or the loud social butterflies, were bright, open minded, and questioned everything they were told.
We were all different by culture and ethnicity, we came from different backgrounds, some were rich, some were poor, but we were all united under the same uniform, the same tables, the same chairs, the same classroom, the same books, the same teacher, and the same language.
We ALL loved going to school and always looked forward to classes. We would often disrupt the lesson because we liked to discuss politics and real life issues with the teacher, sometimes even their or our personal lives, we were all open to each other, like a family. We called each other by first name, we even go out with the teachers.
When graduation day arrived.. everyone was sad. We were finally adults who will now go to university and move on with our lives, we should be happy, right? Nope, we were not happy.
The solution is simple. Reduce the number of students in a class. Reduce the number of students in the whole school. 1 teacher to 10 student is the magic number, in my opinion, thats how my class was, 10 students and 1 teacher, 11 family members.
How did students come to your school? On unicorns?
Yeah that sounds real nice, except that's not a possibility for most schools. And even if it was, it shouldn't be something you have "disrupt the lesson" to discuss. It should be mandatory to learn things that will actually help you in life.
Education is there to absorb our own money.
Great video. I look forward to teaching my children these valuable lessons if the current curriculum doesn't go over these important subjects.
I learned from a very unlikely source that there are two different ideas that we often confuse under a single name: training, and education. Training teaches you how to do something; education teaches you how to think. Both are worthy and noble, and nearly everyone will need some of both in their life.
I think you're suggesting another concept should be part of it as well: some development of the sort of self awareness that leads to happiness and peace... that is, in the antique language, some 'care of the soul', as well as the body and mind...
***** Thanks for your reply, but I haven't read Hauerwas. Would he say we need to be taught how to _perform_ virtue, or taught how to _understand_ what virtue is? as a weldor must be taught how to perform welding, and a geometer must be taught how to 'reason with poorly drawn figures'? That's the distinction my unlikely tutor was making...
*****
Thank you for the info.
Do you mind me asking what made your tutor unlikely?
Brittany Randall
No, of course I don't mind. It was cheesy actor, right wing radio talk show host, and Watergate criminal G. Gordon Liddy... Unlikely because I'm neither a right-winger, nor a big fan of Abba - and he's both!
But I do try to be widely read, and keep an open mind... :)
I agree with a single exception.
I very much think that a modest introduction to deeper, more conceptual mathematics is a very good thing.
The trouble with defending this is that it's very hard to point directly to immediate, directly practical applications for the literal material you are learning.
But that doesn't mean it's not important.
It teaches about a way of thinking conceptually and abstractly.
And makes people aware, at a very young age, of this style of analytical, logically rigorous investigation.
It's fundamental to the vital task of introducing the idea of intellectualism to people at a young age.
TheYopogo This is what I thought. The problem is, maths education is really bad everywhere. Instead of training students for the analytical, logically rigorous investigation you talk about, what is trained is just formula retention and the ability to apply these to nearly identical problems which require little more than some ability to interpret text.
A reform in math education is needed as well.
TheYopogo I'm in the midst of high-school maths at the moment, and I've obviously been let down as I have no idea what this 'deeper, more conceptual mathematics' is. Could you give me an example? I'm very interested.
The Manifold Curiosity Try this.
jackschaedler.github.io/circles-sines-signals/
The math may look scary if you are in high school, but in reality, the author gives a very gentle introduction.
When you are able to visualize math, you start to see how beautiful it is.
The Manifold Curiosity
Hi there! Even though I have always loved it, my knowledge of math
is unfortunately very limited . But I think when Galilei said:
"Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe"
he really had a point! ( Except the God thing may be.)
To answer your question, I thought I could recommend you a very
interesting conversation between Krista Tippett and Mario Livio. When you have some extra time , just google both names and you'll find a podcast. Mario Livio is a wonderful astrophysicist, he works at the institute that operates Hubble Space Telescope.He is also the writer of the book " Is God a Mathematician".
I am sure you'll enjoy that conversation and find some answers to your
question. Here I copied a part of the introduction of the book too:
"Physicist and author Mario Livio brilliantly explores mathematical ideas
from Pythagoras to the present day as he shows us how intriguing
questions and ingenious answers have led to ever deeper insights into
our world. This fascinating book will interest anyone curious about the
human mind, the scientific world, and the relationship between them."
BinaryHistory exactly, as a high school student I've always had a fascination with knowledge, however unlike English, social studies and science, which allowed me to be creative, whether writing about my opinions, observing and analyzing the consequences of a historical event or the discovery of an unknown planet, mathematics, never really interested me, even thought i had the comprehension that math is the language of the universe, i know its value and importance for everything in reality, however, in school, it taught like you said, nothing but bland and dull memorization and nearly identical problems of simply plugin in information. i want to know what Math is. i want see what math does.
If the guy who talks over these told me I had one hour to live id be calm about it, such a soozing voice. Be at my death bed
#propelthylearning
This is an extremely informative video!!! it hits many of the aspects that are being overlooked in education. School today is more focused on passing tests and memorizing answers rather than actually learning and developing their minds.
Schools definitely needs to teach the various biases and fallacies. Funny thing about them is that by simply knowing, people will commit much less of them. This is one of the purest example of "knowledge is power" and most certainly belongs in a curriculum.
Will Ferrous True. It is not just about preventing themselves from committing said fallacies but also recognizing the same in the society, adverts and politics around them. Logic is a great weapon but even better defense.
Will Ferrous Rhetoric, the art of using language persuasively, was taught in Athens. I think this is what you are referring to
Rynn Hamilton
no, it's something much more basic than rhetoric, just biases and fallacies. Dunning-Kruger effect for example, is the cognitive bias wherein people tend to view themselves as above average.
Take you for example, you obviously didn't understand my post, but you still went about chiming in assuming you did understand, after all, it is you! and you have superior comprehension, etc ,etc.
I can relate to this so heavily; here I am finishing high school in a couple of months and I am absolutely clueless about what I want to do. Even though I always had a soft spot for language, literature, history and philosophy; they are regarded by everyone as "useless" and said to bring you to a sad, miserable life filled with lack of money and guaranteed unemployment. Also it's not uncommon for people to call you a nutjob for liking such fields. Therefore I kind of treated them with modesty.
Quite discouraging. Everything else I never really enjoyed too much, math and the digital language would have been cool to learn but I chose the wrong school for that (kind of too late to start that from scratch now), it's a sport themed school, my passion for the sport has all but burned out by now, however.
So, instead of really thinking more deeply on this I always just ignored this issue by using the internet and playing video games, being focused on forum communities or youtube channels. While it definitely improved my english by ALOT and I learned things here and there, I've missed out on alot of time I could have spent reading more often (rather than scarcely like I usually did, even though I always liked it).
I'm inclining to go study History in the future, however, there's no passion in this decision, no certainty, no ambition, I like history, but I'm not quite sure what to make out of it and it's just the most convenient decision I can take. There's one thing school definitely should teach more and that's like you said, Capitalism. We all need to manage our finances and understand the economy edventually, it's better to not have to learn from mistakes and be easy naive targets at the start.
Well, all that is left now is to read and study more seriously on what I like the most, trying to tone down my virtual activity in the meanwhile. Your channel had its part in making me take this decision. Your videos are simply fascinating and leave me desiring for more, to "satiate my thirst" for knowledge (Francois Rabelais, wasn't it?)
The more I read, the more I realize how little I know, but it still feels so satisfying! I don't care if the public opinion thinks I am a weirdo for doing this, it's what I like and I'll try to succeed with it, somehow.
K0ragg all the in demand jobs are not ever mentioned or taught in high school. It is a crime against the poor in my opinion, as people leave high school and feel obligated to go to college because of "no opportunities" What is taught in high school is all the saturated low demand stuff like English, history, arts, sports, and people jam into college like sardines learning all about stuff that is not very marketable. This is by design, there is massive opportunity with no college. 75% of jobs require grade 12 that's it. 40% of jobs require grade 10.
If you are in good physical shape look into trades. If you live in a de-industrialized blighted shit hole city move to an industrious place and get your foot in the door. Yes, you will make low-ish pay for a while but have no student loans and be making money from day 1. Once a person gets to a certain point of expertise in a trade or skill, you are gold plated for life and never need to worry about finding work again. A person with great mechanical ability that gets into the more technical stuff like robotics or heavy duty mechanics, or electronics, or aeronautics, or locomotives, expect to be earning $200k a year later in life. No student loans, no debt, earning money from day 1, and no school councillor will ever mention this to anyone.
keep in mind the key here is WHERE you are living because none of this kind of work is available in the blighted welfare cities like Detroit, st. Louis, boston, cleavland, LA, ect. You have to go to where the industry is, which is pretty much the central strip of the US and western Canada. They do not build cars in Detroit any more, they do not build trains in LA, they do not build Saturn 5 rockets in st. Louis, if you get what I mean.
keith boyd
And you're saying you can become such a highly successful engineer without a degree?
K0ragg I think he refers to 'a mechanic', not 'an engineer'. And that is, if you are able to grasp the 'more technical stuff'. He doesn't even mention that you're going to design (what engineers are supposed to do) these complex systems; probably just operating or fixing them, just like a normal mechanic, but with more expertise - they could still pay a lot.
I too, have a soft spot for art, especially painting, but my father didn't allow me to take Art (he thought it didn't pay well) and I took Biology instead in college and graduated just fine... and now I'm going to study molecular medicine for my Master's. I guess I just make a compromise out of things... and I found that once in a while, my skills with painting and drawing are critical even in Biology. I once made a comic strip about modes of reproduction, sketch wildlife for inventorisation, even made posters for events, little dioramas for an exhibition, and asked to teach sketching for a couple of people.
Contrary to an able-bodied mechanic, I'm more of a brooding, cogitating thinker in the dark corner of the library, so I don't really care about 'marketable stuff'and those sort of things, but I could say that instead of too much thinking on the subject itself, you should think about forming connections with people on college; they are to some degree a more important factor in getting a job than your actual degree. I got some research job from my former mentor in college, so there you go! If you could combine it with your interests, it could be a powerful combination...I could only say that crap though, but I wish you good luck with your studies!
kashiwamizu
Thanks and I am glad you are happy with how things ended up for you and managed to insert art there as well :).
I am not very handy with mechanical stuff, sadly. Not my cup of tea most of the time...
K0ragg You sound like someone who CAN be even more successful in life. And I'm not talking about money or relationships, but in terms of a person, that to me is success in life. If you felt like you didn't tap in enough of your life, I believe you have time left to go back and be happier with your life. I wish you the best! I'm only in high school and reading your comment has really put things in perspective.
School isn't supposed to be a place where people are given information; you're thinking of a library. A school is supposed to guide the learning process, teach people how to find and assimilate information for themselves, and direct them towards appropriate starting points (e.g. learning basic math or writing is a stepping stone to other more complex disciplines). The standard curriculum is not the problem. The fact that we have a standard curriculum is the problem.
My teacher encourages everyone to ask a question if they forgot or confused but when I wanted to ask a question, my teacher always reply to my question that they're irrelevant or stupid. Also sometimes my friends would call me dumb for not knowing the obvious things. Ever since that happened to me. I kept quiet keeping it to myself and when until I have the test. I usually always get lower grades than anyone else. :(
Education is the most misunderstood term. All of us focus more on how much money we make and which famous schools and colleges we were a part of. Thanks for giving a new perspective through your video. If a person's basics are right and one knows the purpose behind education, one can always learn well through online schools too
all my teachers say is "this is what I have been told to teach" so how are we to change things
#propelthylearning
I agree with the superlative importance of the proposed subjects of curriculum.
However, I would add two perspectives on 'What Is Education For?'
In the broad, philosophical sense, it is to increase human knowledge by sparing subsequent generations the burden of having to re-discover the discoveries of previous generations, since they can be learned faster than they can be re-discovered. This allows more time for further discovery. It is worth noting that we have long since reached quantities of global knowledge such that no person could ever hope to learn all of it even with thousands of lifetimes. So progress can only be made by specialists in their fields with little knowledge of what is happening in other fields. At present the various fields are still able to communicate with each other, but for how much longer? Computers help a lot with this, but how we deal with the difference between the static capacity of the human brain relative to the exponentially increasing quantity of knowledge remains to be seen. One can imagine capacity thresholds being reached and current upward trends plateauing. But perhaps artificial intelligence or quantum computing can extend the progression. In that case, one can imagine a world of dense technology all self-replicating with self-generating algorithms in which no human understands how any of it works.
The other, more cynical perspective I would share on 'What Is Education For?' is that, at least since the discovery of agriculture with allowed humans to produce surplus, humans have been looking for and finding ways to overtly or subtly 'enslave' each other in order to lay claim to that surplus, known in modern times as 'wealth.' The modern system, vastly more advanced and complex than previous models relies heavily on propaganda, control of information, to maintain an obedient and cooperative labor-farmed population, and the 'education' system is a primary means for dissemination of that propaganda.
So ask yourself, why does the state NOT already teach financial education about how capitalism works, about morality, relationships, etc.? You can suppose that of all the people whose job it is to think about what subjects to choose for educational curriculum, the relative importance of such subjects has never occurred to any of them, and that of the 7 billion odd people in the world, nobody has suggested any of them either. Or we can suppose that they have considered and rejected those subjects. If so, why? Well, there is very good reason to suppose that very powerful people believe - because it is true - that a financially and emotionally well educated, informed, and cooperative populace would not be in the best interests of the state. Perhaps they know that slaves work most diligently when they think they have been duped into thinking that they are free and in charge, and that too much education on certain subjects can get in the way of that delicate 'educational' process.
Jack G Freedom is relative. There are things that you are not allowed to do. There are also things that you are allowed to do. So you have some freedom, but you lack some freedom. Ultimate freedom would require omnipotence, as the laws of nature prevent us from doing many things. But we commonly use freedom, in the more limited political sense, to refer to freedom from the control of other humans. In America, for example, where I live, we are allowed many more freedoms by the people who control us, than are allowed to many citizens of other countries, and for that we are grateful. One can say we are 'more free.' But ultimately, even in the limited political sense, if someone else decides what it is that you may and may not do, even if they are quite lenient about it, you are not 'free.' You are under their control. They are your masters. And it would not be such a stretch to say that you are their slave. They may use you hard, or they may use you lightly, but it is up to them, not up to you. Ultimately, if your 'freedom' is afforded to you or allowed to you by people with power over you, it is not freedom.
You see, Freedom, is not a measure of how hard you have to work or how well you are treated. Freedom is a measure of power - the power to choose.
So, to answer your question directly, the "main stream sense of freedom," to use your words, is a sense of being allowed relatively more privileges than others are allowed. Like a house slave, relative to a field slave. They were allowed more 'freedoms.' But they were no more free.
I know that they tell us we are sort of 'collectively in charge' via the voting system, which would make us individuals enslaved to the collective, more or less the way we think of Communist China. But that is not accurate. However, that's a huge subject for another time.
At this point, you may throw up your hands, call me an idiot, and declare that by my reckoning, we're all slaves no matter what, so the word becomes meaningless and useless. However, the point of this way of thinking is to allow us to discern and parse the nature of power and freedom, where it lies and in what quantity, and by what mechanism. That's the point, and perhaps ironically, such an understanding gives one a small measure of additional freedom, because understanding, as they say, is power.
brindlebria
You didnt expect this much explenation right ?
Not gonna agree with your cynical opinions, I don't think that's a thing as in education. PISA includes a judgement standard where the freedom of teachers could be used for the students, what they can freely teach in class and the freedom of curriculum.
You guys are certainly helping to start the right curriculum.
1. capitalism
2. everything else
top priorities there chap
Yes, handling money would go first so that the kids would now how to use it effectively without screwing themselves.
*****
Currently education is just about preparing you to be a good employee. This is a hell of a lot better.
***** Its unfortunately the system we have. Its better that people be educated on how it works than be as easily exploited by it like they commonly are.
***** We live in a capitalist system, and if sciences, for example, are taught under the idea of understanding how the world around us functions, then learning about capitalism should be a no brainer by that same criteria
1. The Structure you live in and how it developed, its strengths and weaknesses. See how quickly things would improve if everyone was taught this rather than reserving the only lessons about it for the privately educated class teaching them how to exploit it and perpetuate the problem of people like this not understanding why it could be so important to learn about the system and help make it more transparent.
Personally I think the most important thing we should learn first is how we each individually learn in the first place. EG. Some are more visual, some need to do, some need to write, all need to understand why.
The importance of education is to enable us as students to encounter life challenges
Amazing video. Everything is on point. And I can only say that the first subject we need to study is ourselves. If we understand that everything becomes easy for us. Again love the content.
The more I realise how stuck I am in a post-university dead-end, the more I feel like ending it all. I wish I could just rewind time and keep the knowledge I have now about myself.
focus on u bro. instead of chasing the money chase happiness.
LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!
Totally agree. I would like to add an important thing to the curriculum. Namely that of humans' relationship with nature, and giving a more global outlook.
Another consideration of mine would be to include philosophy into the curriculum, either topic-based or as a subject in its own right.
Generally, I am also in big favor of topic-based learning, rather than subject-based. A lot of understanding of how the world is connected is being lost in our current school system.
This is one of those videos I’ve been searching for lol❤️
I had received the institutional conventional public education from grade 1 to 12. And I appreciate everything I had learnt in those years. I have used all knowledge from them to get through universities, work and life in general. All math, statistics, physics, languages, civics, music, cooking, nutritional education, infant development (in middle school), biology, chemistry, everything! We clean up school everyday, conduct school government, negotiate with faculties, play organized sports, enjoy school festivals, school trips, etc... Everything was directly connected the real world... :)
I think one important fundamental need in education has been overlooked. Happiness. I believe that if the primary focus was our students happiness and mental health, the other benefits would follow. Children should be taught the principles of happiness. Each class would go into the depths of spiritual growth, hands on experience, giving back to the community, ex.
There is a brilliant Ted talk done by a young man named Logan Laplante who discusses several of these ideals in detail. I'd highly recommend it.
Watches a video about education, but can't wait for summer vacation !
Glad I found this video . u r doing an excellent job
Thank you for this video.
This is what I've been trying to say to anyone who would listen, but alas! My words fall on deaf ears.
Holy shit, this could fix everything.
Chris McSweeney YES. That is what we've been trying to tell everyone all these years.
No it wouldn't, because the government wants us to be stupid.
gamership population spotted:3
gamership is growing this is good we need more people to hate school to save gamer ship
Good luck finding teachers who are qualified for this.
well said.
Kien Nguyen teachers who are qualified fir this curriculum Are not a problem, it's the system which is a problem. the way teachers are trained to teach all subjects we take, is the same way they van be trained to do this. :)
zitzit What about those who are in charge of training those teachers? Are they qualified? What will happen then when they encounter that impassable wall that's called university bureaucracy? Teaching basic subjects are easy. Teaching life experiences on the other hand....
There you have it! so, maybe they can start by training the teacher trainers. However, I do not think any changes are easy in the education systems worldwide. Am sure if most of us looked at our education systems, we will discover that there have been minimal changes over decades. Teachers operate under government education policies, among other aspects, that structure and sometimes limits their performance. That is why I believe that "these kinds of teachers" are there or can be found but the issue lies in the changes that the education systems would have to make, depending on the countries that may adapt the curriculum and their political and social structures.
Most are...its just that the policy makers force them to do what they are told to
Great work! #The School of Life
It's really heart warming that you made an effort to study the current education system and provided with a simple solution like focusing on the life challenging subjects, having said that, I don't want this to be just anther video, I want us all to collaborate and design a real time working ed. system, test and work on it at small scale first then making it bigger(later), because i don't want the future and the current generation to suffer the same fate as we did.
Peace.
I could not agree with this more. I am grateful the school I work in puts a huge emphasis on self. I can see the difference alrady.
I personally believe children and students should be taught to think for themselves. They should learn to debate, solve problems and be encouraged to develop themselves. Learning them "capitalism" or "the meaning of life" (or any subject focussed on accumulation of knowledge) would only result in a loss of interest. It would result in a bunch of knowledge and rules and books while students should be encouraged to define their own meaning of life. And above all, should not be forced to do it. Forcing them a certain curriculum will result in what currently exists in the current school systems; a deeply unmotivated attitude towards self-employment and the accumulation of knowledge.
+TempoTap I agree with you - we can't have a school system which only focus on a special way of living. We need language, science, art, social studies etc. in our education - and not only "how-to-live-an-american-life 101". In Denmark, were I come from, we use a lot of time on being educated to think for ourselves + all the other things needed for university (I'm in the Danish edition of High School).
+TempoTap Meh, I used to think that. But it's too late for that. There's too much knowledge; it's been growing exponentially. Nobody can acquire it or think it through anymore. Just little pieces of it. Tiny fragments of a vast ungraspable web. Self-generating computers are going to have to do the thinking for us so we can play sex and violence per our nature across the pristine brothel battle grounds of Eden. We just have to push another generation or two of brain-laborers to get the machines going.
Also, thinking for themselves is what people do without any education. Education has always been for preventing people from thinking for themselves, thereby preventing them from coming to the wrong conclusions, like that they are slaves. But it doesn't matter. Perhaps it was for the best.
like a sudbury school. Look up a video by boyinaband called 'you don't legally have to go to school'. He talks about the different types of schools there are.
I certainly will, thanks for the tip :)
I don't think that there should be units of any kind in a Utopian school system. Learning should instead become as self-regulated as possible, meaning that students would choose projects to work on for as long as they need to, using tools from whatever fields are suited to their tasks rather than study isolated bits and pieces of subjects.
#odiaselfeducation
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I wish that when I was in school that there were classes that taught things like how mortgages work and what your consumer rights are as well as vocational classes which are becoming popular nowadays to help you find out earlier on where your talents lie and what you enjoy. I spent my entire teen years and beyond feeling depressed and lost which could have been helped with a decent curriculum and kind guidance that was terribly lacking in my school. The main problem seemed to be the inability to treat the students as individuals
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Some of this is interesting & yes we can always have a better education system. But for the most part, this vid is very vague "feel good" rhetoric. I didn't like school very much, but you can & do learn most of the stuff in school that this vid says you should be learning in school.
I've learned all this myself...
And what my school taught me?!
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THAT!!!!!
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#propelthylearning
Awesome creativity whoever made this video..great work u have a vivid imagination
Most of my teachers are not qualified to teach the lessons they are teaching.
#propelthylearning
i totally agree with this video that we need a new curriculum to prepare our children for the future. The content of the past is the fundamental knowledge we need to reflect how we can use to teach our children to prepare for the future. Besides these two areas of learning, we need the thinking, writing and anlaytical skills to make our children more reflective to uphold a civic society.
I am happy with these,,,I have learned alot.
i want my school to teach defense against dark arts
What education needs is to be based on principles of direct democracy, libertarianism and no fixed curriculum. But of course, capitalism doesn't allow that; doing this may just develop an informed and angry working class and that would be its downfall.
Crisis of Democracy We already have an informed and angry working class. That's why movements like the "Occupy" protests. People of all classes leave school feeling disillusioned by being dropped into a world that they were never educated for. Middle and upper class people are taught that university and getting that high paying job (that they despise with every fibre of their being) is the answer. And working class children are taught that they should chase jobs which have the highest pay possible. Jobs which they despise with every fibre of their being. If you gave children of all classes the ability to understand themselves and choose their paths more wisely, you would have a less angry people in all classes.
Gergő Soós They give their power to men like that for one simple reason: generation of repressed rage. They have been denied a living wage and the right to speak up for themselves for so long, that by the time they finally get an opportunity to change things, they no longer want justice, they want revenge. And men like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot give them that revenge. You can't repress the human dignity of the majority of the population indefinately without there damaging consequences.
Gergő Soós Are you implying that Stalin, Mao and Piss Pot were somehow communist?
Gergő Soós The working class would embrace communist parties because they'd usually offer a communist revolution, but often what may have been good intent turns to what can be seen throughout authoritarian socialism's past implementations: dictatorships.
I propose anarchism, also known as libertarian socialism. Where instead of a communist party assuming state power, the working class abolish the state, along with capitalism without the aid of a party.
Crisis of Democracy Finally, another anarchist who can get on this channel's case of capitalism... I'm not all alone after all!
Thanks for giving a good idea!
I'm happy when I watch these kind of videos ! Still there are so many people that can't understand what education really is !
The difficult thing for me as a student is to find the practical use of what I learn.
I personally feel more confortable by actually doing something that requieres memory, than just memorizing something and then writing it down the next morning without looking...
Make an effort to make it fun; watch videos, make posters. I just finished education, and now I'm finding everything I learnt useful. I actually wish I could have learnt more! Now is a great time to learn because you absorb and remember more info when you are young. Trust me, you are better off learning and developing skills than anything else
I hate this education system. It's awful.
emiiee cx I know!!!
yeah school is horrible
gamership population spotted:2
i hope gamership remains
2 points response to What is Education?What I studied from this video is that when it comes to education we need to start thinking more and stop thinking less. the narrator was trying to convey that Education should be more focused on life. the thoughts going through me head as I was watching this video is ways to better my education for the long-term. I liked that the narrator made education his main priority.
The video gives the best of idea of how education should.. be....it has narrowed down and explained better the type of education system kenya should adopt
The School of Life, great work
School is about selecting who is best comfortably numb
Thats why Asians especially those brought up by communist government are performing way better in school than those from the world of freedom and creativity, yet nothing truly amazing really come out from this part of the world.
Jimmy Lo the world of "freedom and creativity" has yet to exist. "Communism" in asian countries is just a ghostly ideology. The truth is that it applies to any power system, by virtue of the fact that there will be those not in power who have to be dulled down. The exact same thing is going on in the western world.
Ken Robinson has some good videos out there on the subject. Great work btw
My expectations are always overwhelmed by School of Life. Better insight than I can get almost anywhere else.
I recognise that there is often a lack of connection between oneself and one's inner self, or however it is you want to describe it, but I really doubt that this can be solved through schooling. I don't think it is possible to teach the faculty of self-discovery. In order for us to be aware of who we are we need diversity in our experiences and independence - education in the form you are proposing doesn't seem to provide that. As a secondary school student I know that most of my development has occurred independently, and could not have been taught to me by any means.
0:00 - 0:04 nope, i dont.
the only lessons that i think are important are: RE, Languages, Art, Food Technology and Design Technology, and history. the others are only exercises for the mind, nothing really important.
This is awaresome .... indeed it will contribute in improving type of education we offer in Kenya and help learners in facing the adulthood challenges
The recommended type of education in the 21 century Is to teach students on how to think critically and solve problems hence this will help them to make informed decisions and contribute to society in meaningful ways
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Although instead of teaching "capitalism" I'd prefer "how to do money stuff".
why not capitalism? and money stuff....really?
It would be better if it would not just be capitalism other wise it becomes propaganda
Maths gave me sufficient ability to do money stuff, like budget, predict revenues, work out interest and inflation. It's pretty good for that
please stop saying money stuff.... and learning money management is only useful in a capitalist society why the hell would you need to learn finance and money managment in a communist society? that makes no sense...
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Da fak you talking about? Who said anything about communism?
And yes, "money management" is the term I was looking for.
"we are wrong, children need to be shown how stupid they are, our curriculum is WRONG, we need to teach to avoid the pitfalls"
These videos make me feel claustrophobic, like there's a right and wrong way to live, and our current system, is of course wrong.
not just suboptimal, wrong.
I just love this Chanel .
Some interesting points made-Great to opening up a debate!
The only purpose of education these days is to narrow down the selection for getting a good job. Helping us in life? pfft
Md Haroon Ahmed Khan EXACTLY
I have never seen any words that describe school this well
School isn’t helping us and we’re not even realizing it, or I think I am. I’m 15 and I’m aware of the education system problems.
Colleges should focus on giving us the skills and hand on work experience necessary to do the job that we are majoring in instead of giving us theory classes that are not relatable to the major so that we are better prepare for the work force.
Ik
"I've never let my schooling interfere with my education" Mark Twain
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I have always thought this for so long. glad I'm not the only one.
This is a perfect idea. As a high schooler right now they do think more money and harder tests solves the problem. Nothing changes and the environment stays the same. Right now I struggle with both relationships and real world knowledge both things he explained. We'll might never need to know how to solve alegbra functions but we will have to know what our career might be, or how to manage money. This is a way education can be more effective, and more fun.
School of Life: I love your videos, but I think you've missed the mark on this one. The problem with modern education is that it puts too much emphasis on definitive answers and not enough emphasis on abstract thought. In school, we are graded on being able to provide the one answer that the teacher is looking for. In subjects like math, this makes sense: one plus one will always equal two. But in other subjects, like English, this is just ridiculous. Language is flexible and always open to interpretation, as anyone who has ever published anything and had their message misunderstood will tell you. English is a perfect example of a class that should be graded on the reasoning and interpretive skills of the students rather then forcing them to produce an expected answer on demand.
If we used classes like English and the arts to teach reasoning skills and math and sciences to teach memorization skills, people would leave school with both reasoning skills and memorization skills. Right now, students leave school with nothing more than the ability to regurgitate phrases and ideas on demand without any sign that they actually understand them.
I like many videos of the school of life but this one is almost as if it possesed by the spirit of Donald Trump. Your comment is great. Communication is a code and English and knowing the subtles aspects of any language gives you an advantage. Same goes for mathematics and logic.
#propelthylearning
No ur wrong if u think maths and science is about memorization. In the real world memorization will get u nowhere in these subjects as it depends on your analytical ability. Subjects like physics requires learners to have strong intuition and visualization. Contrary to what u have written, memorization works for subjects like history which is an arts subject, there's not much scope for creativity there.
Whoever does the animation and illustrations for The School of Life is really good. His or her stuff is very entertaining to watch.
Bottom Line: give them a raise or a pizza. whatever works.
it was awesome! Thanks
I'm hopeful of Utopian Education!!!! Best and the leading example is The School of Life!!! Great insights guys!!!!! I learnt everything from my vulnerable inner self to the the big complicated world of capitalism only after reading Alain de Botton's "How Proust Can Change Your Life" and subsequently follwed TSOL!!! Oh I'm so glad that i accidentally knew saw Alain's TED talk!!!!! Really you guys have brought about a radical reformation through art and literature and philosophy...... Love you tonnes guys!!!!! Keep on rocking!!!
here I am watching these interesting videos when I ''should'' be studying multivariable calculus...
+Daniela Santos You're a girl who likes advanced math? Cool !!!
David Lafleche I'm taking a math degree in college
What is your career goal?
+David Lafleche I don't know yet. I'm still figuring that out.
Well, keep going with math, and take all the courses you can. Math can branch out into many useful fields. But, if you need help editing your papers, let me know. (I'm into writing.)
they dont want us to be too intelligent.
Too late.
very useful video..thanks to youtube and specialy you
Thanks for giving us these idea I'm very happy i never stopped internet agine
Given that science and economics are the cornerstone of modern society, it is strange that science is given the proper due respect in schools but not economics. When I grew up some schools do not even teach economics. Personal finance and economics should be taught in schools along with physics and chemistry.
school should teach us to understand our qualities and allocate them to a suitable career path that we would find meaningful so we don't end up miserable wasting our life on a job we hate. give us more opportunities to experience different work so we can come to grips to what we actually want to do. school is fake as it never really teaches you what you need to know. I mean if you want to be a maths teacher or doctor then by all means teach maths and science but most of us don't, the curriculum need to reassessed and remade
Education is for understanding everything what exists, happens and more just for general knowledge and not for giving some competitions which will decide your future.
An ABSOLUTE THANK YOU for this..!!! :-))))))
I learnt most of the things mentioned in this video in one way or another in school, especially the human mind and relationships with others.
Even though it is important to teach "practical" skills like the ones mentioned in this video, from my experience it is equally important to learn traditional subjects like language and abstract math to gain a better understanding of how the world works.
...to produce cogs for corporations. And/or to be able to read and do simple math to take someone's order (i.e. Fast food restaurants, retail)?
thanks for this great job
Amazing. As usual.
The purpose of educations is not to prepare one for adulthood, but to teach one how to learn and research. Once one can draw on the work of others and learn new topics for themselves, then they will be ready for life. My school does not know what jobs will be available twenty years from now, but they can teach me how to learn. If one is diligent and works hard, then they will succeed at adult life outside of school. We can't blame the schools when people are unsuccessful. People are responsible for their actions too.
So when schools teaches you complicated math problem it's considered research? Schools mostly take 12 years do you think it worth 12 years in there worth it
Math problems may seem useless for some’s future, but its the skills you develop during these years of education that is important, such as practical analysis in problem solving. While education may be flawed, a student should also learn how to be able to incorporate their learnings into life, so it can also be up to them on how they can make use of what they are learning.
This is so wrong in so many different way.
Good points but I must disagree with this video. The bigger problem here is not about what teachers in schools are teaching, but more about how they are teaching it to the students.
The way our education is being categorized into subjects make it difficult for us to find what's the real purpose of learning. And its more pointless when we are thought to study and achieve for the results that do not even reflect on who we are.
Some had already given up, failing a subject means nothing anymore because they are too far fetched, pointless. But why are some of us still busting our asses to even try when it's not what we want? Simply, because results are just qualifications to get into a good university, where we are not sure what we truly want to learn. And also to get a good job in this society, still, maybe not clueless, maybe we had found our career, but maybe it's too abstract for this society to handle...
Teaching SUBJECTS make ideas we learn so one-way-ed and dull. Like how only in Maths we think of numbers, and only in geography we talk of mountains,only in art we appreciate things, ONLY in a certain subject/class, only that certain specific thing. We only tend to think that way when we like that subject. Other subjects are just a waste of time. Imagine the things we could've learned during that time.
The solution? Well the best one I could think of is where we teach TOPICS instead. A topic not restricted to any one-way-ed kind of mono-mentality. So each of us can have different views and opinions on topics, views where some see in an artistic way and where some see it in a scientific manner. So that we can share our ideas amongst one another. Classes will no longer be boring, everyone will participate, there won't be such things as "I've already learn that." Or "that's too hard to understand." . Classes will engage in activities where one will inspire someone else to think in a different way.
We slowly start to open our minds to others and to stand up for our own ideas, that, I think is the true purpose of learning.
Haha forgot to mention that this is also the reason why a lot of us learn so much better on RUclips XD
my fav channel!
Education helps the educators to impart knowledge and skills for the young generation which would help them in chosing best careers in their lives
Eduction is created to make more job for useless people not for educating anyone.
needs more science
nah
But make it interesting..like vertasium