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In the Bring Down The Sky DLC you can find a shelter in the map from where they broadcast a radio station. In there you can read a statement made by the broadcasters saying some people were complaining that the music they played was too extreme and was hurting young minds and making them want to have sex with aliens. Those people had apparently never actually heard the music, but had heard someone talk about it somewhere. You have the option to turn the music back on, and it's elevator music - the most vanilla, boring ass music ever.
@@sopranophantomista I once searched for extended versions of ME elevator music on YT to ironically play it in the background. And let me tell you, it's not ironic anymore! 😂
Everyone knows by now blaming every evil thing that a kid does is a result of video games gives them 10+ moral highground and good journalism points which still happens till this day.
@@bigdot2355 Which is why nobody watches the news anymore except the same boomers from this story. The news media is a joke and nobody smart has trusted them for decades.
You forgot to include the best response Bioware had to this entire controversy. When the Developers released the Bring Down The Sky DLC for Mass Effect 1, one of the points of interest you can drive up to on Asteroid X57 is a small Radio Station. Examining the Terminal Inside the Station normally describes it as a Small Pirate Music Station that the Engineers on the Asteroid had set up while they were working and some of the promotional tag lines they have scripted out. In the PC Version and in all versions of Legendary Edition however, Examining the Radio Terminal a second time pulls up a new prompt that reads; "You notice an open text file, the personal journal of the station operator. It reads in part: "Project director wants to shut us down. Says our music is too 'extreme', that we're inciting the younger workers to riot and sleep with aliens. I asked him if he'd listened to us. He said he'd talked to someone who'd heard about what we play."" This will forever be one of my favorite Easter Eggs in video games.
Well in the first game there wasnt amy hostilities really between the news reporter and shepard. But in me2 and 3 theyre both kinda easy to get mad at. I think that was just them being funny about the news take of the first game.
They are crying about seeing a cartoon side boob for a few seconds in a game that took me dozens of hours to complete on my first play through. Meanwhile there are incredibly explicit material that is easy to find online for free, and real guns are ridiculously easy to get in many states.
To be fair, that hasn't really stopped kids from playing these kinds of games. A lot of little kids played GTA 5 and GTA Online. It's on the parents that allowed them to play, but still though, an M rating is hardly a barrier for entry, especially nowadays.
@@lmno567 Bro, its illegal to buy an M game if you're underage. How is that not a perfectly defined barrier to entry? You can't deflect parental failure into fascism. to rate something is all we can do. anything more is fucking cersorship.
@@DL-df3lg Parents bought/still buy their kids these kinds of games all the time, especially back when this happened. There was even a term for very young kids in multiplayer lobbies, like in CoD. They were called "squeakers" on account of their high-pitch voice that clearly came from someone under the age of 17. Where is this talk of fascism coming from? No one said anything about that, but you. It is a family issue, not a national issue, so it is very much on the parents for getting them this kind of game.
@@DL-df3lgIllegal maybe but never enforced. I remember many years ago my dad took me to buy Skyrim and Watch Dogs 1 with my birthday money. Cashier didn't care whatsoever
Not only are their claims about the game degrading females into humpable objects false, it also undermines the very essence of Liara's character, who, in fact, is a highly educated cultural anthropologist in spite of the game's own stereotypes about Asari being depraved lust demons.
Yeah kinda wild, the Mass Effect games while having some issues _(miranda colonoscopy cam)_ were fairly ahead of their time in terms of representing women in games as equally deep and complex characters with agency and independence.
And in 2007 the baulders gate people would've used the news as fee advertisement and made bg4 even raunchier. Feels like nowadays people are quick to censor things the media wants them to rather than double down like they did back then
The only reason they’re not losing it right now is because BG3 is so universally admired and video games have become a better respected medium. The basic attitudes have not changed at all.
The Mass Effect 2 offer could have saved her career. People forget how much hype was around that game. Its first real ad was aired during the Superbowl.
As someone who was at the time of Mass Effects release, a horny teenage boy, I cannot stress enough that the only thing greater than the fuss around this game's sex scenes, was my disappointment on actually getting to that part of the game.
The "exaggerated sex scenes" may have felt like they were dissuading people from getting the game, but the truth is it was the greatest marketing ever for Mass Effect 1. The first thing I ever heard by word of mouth about this game was "lesbian sex scene". These sorts of news stories were activating 14 year old neurons.
I was 11 at the time and heard nothing of the news, but one day a friend of my dad's gifted me Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2 and Mass Effect 1. The first one I recognised as definitely not being for kids. But in hindsight... did he think ME1 was in the same caliber because he had seen the news? Either way, I got a favourite game from that lol.
@@EvilParagon4I played the first DoA Volleyball game when I was like 4 or 5 years old. I was too busy playing the game to care about what the characters were wearing.
@@MintyLime703 That's because lowkey, those games were kinda good. Both as a volleyball game and a friendship simulator. The boob physics were ridiculous but that's DoA for ya. They kind of occupy a weird space from back in the day where these fan service type games were far better than they ever had the right to be. Rumble Roses is another one. It has some rather in depth wrestling mechanics and a decently steep learning curve. But you probably wouldn't think that if you were to look it up. lol
I thought this was gonna be about an author who wrote a book called mass effect before BioWare announced mass effect, making her book impossible to google. Like that movie frozen. No, the other one
Your lack of specificity makes your comment much less useful almost zero actually but "thanks" I suppose for pointing out the possibility for possible scenario.
I thought it was gonna be about the 4th tie-in novel Mass Effect Deception. After the first three were written by one of the lead writers for the game and were pretty good, they brought in a new author for the 4th book who clearly did not understand Mass Effect nor had a grasp on preestablished lore. The book was a mess and heavily criticised, so much so that Bioware and EA had to apologise, and promised to rerelease the book with all the glaring errors corrected. I don't think they ever happened in the end however.
@6:52 It's basically like trying to "protect the kids" by banning liqueur chocolates: "Yes they say those chocolates are for 'adults', but let's look statistically at WHO'S eating chocolates! It's children! Children eat the vast majority of chocolates in the world! Do you support children .. and babies! ... having access to liqueur! You monster!!!"
Well that is literally why you can't buy flavored cigarettes. Adults hate flavor so the idea of an adult product with flavor must mean it's being marketed towards kids, fast forward 25 years and now flavored cigarettes are more popular than ever except they have to be battery powered.
@@marii8ytb Nope, just regulars or menthols. You can still get flavored cigars like Swishers though. But you can get birthday cake flavored weed or nicotine vapes mailed right to your door without an ID all day long. That and nitrous oxide cans that are clearly marketed towards kids to abuse too. Huff gas until you permanently forget how to tie your shoes at 13, but don't you dare think about smoking something that might give you lung cancer in 50 years if you do it twenty times a day.
It always confuses me that people believed people who had little to no experience with what they're talking about rather than people who have actually played the game before. I remember asking for GTA V for years and my parents kept saying no because you could apparently rape people in it. The news at the time was running with that story because modders went into a streamers game, locked onto the streamers character and started doing a thrusting animation. No matter how many times I told them they wouldn't believe me. Also they never mentioned valid reasons like the strip club, heavy drug use, trevor existing or the torture scene
That's always been the case. Nobody in video game journalism actually plays video games. It's why everyone knows that kotaku is a joke and you can't spell ignorant without IGN
@@michealdrake3421and even if they do, they can’t play em well. There’s was this one journalist who said that DMC5’s soundtrack was bad. However, the themes in that game are based on style rank. He thought the soundtrack was bad because he couldn’t get the song to actually kick up
And this was the moment that I began to question what my dad told me since he’d take Faux News at their word back in the day and believed the entirety of the attempted smear job they pulled with regards to Mass Effect, only for him to get mad at me when I told him it was complete horse hockey since I actually had played the game and thus knew better.
At this point I'm convinced Fox blew mind-controlling pheromones into the air sometime around when boomers were 20-30 that inalterably took over their minds, hence why all of them love Fox News and believe everything they say even though the generations born since transparently see through them.
@@greasey8695Anita was a blight for the gaming community. Hell she’s the reason why Journos and activists have invaded the Gaming’s scene. And the reason why we have such a dog water list of games now, and in the rare cases of good games ( space marine 2, first decent etc ) if they don’t tow the parties lines they throw a fit trying to exclaim it avoids anything they hold sacred in their destructive socialist views.
At first I was gonna say it’s kinda weird having sex with basically an anthropomorphic frog, but then I would sound like a hypocrite considering I did have multiple relationships with Tali…. But to be fair Qurians, at least the female Qurians look human enough considering their “ assets “ and I guess face wise their not to bad.
@@oz_jones it was a mod tho, and even at that not graphic. Banning game because you could EDIT it to have sex is like banning blank sheets of paper because you could draw a dick on them.
It pisses me off no end how these so called journalists can come along and say x y and z about a videogame when in reality they a) have never played it. b) obsess over one particular aspect of it and blow it way out of proportion. c) say that it's "the work of the devil" or some other stupid bullshit because they don't understand the lore and or plot lines.
I never understood why violence, death and murder is so overlooked in every media but somehow anything sexual is seen as the worst thing possible, while being the literal reason we all are here having a life, makes 0 sense
@wul3391 My point is that is the reason why conservatives bash media that has anything sexual in it but typically leave violent media alone. They're all repressed. Which is why a lot of them are freaks, too.
@@mattd5240 it honestly should though. We should have a more viceral reaction to violence then we do to sex. Like the guy said were all here because our parents did it at least once. Its not like our parents have to mercilessly beat someone to death in order for us to get born. One is clearly more severe than the other and yet a tv show can show such brutal violence but god forbid they make a few double entendres
The thing is, the controversy is what got me into the franchise. I came for, what Cooper promised all of us, and stayed for the story telling and voice acting.
Oh now THIS is one from the archives. Honestly, this was one of the dumbest takes I have ever seen in my entire life. Completely ignoring Shepard can be a man or a woman, the game is so Fucking far from just "Picking up women" it's laughable. She completely mises the humour, horror, bonds of fellowship and tragedy of this amazing game. Worse still, she makes a big stink of "Sex Scenes" so tame they wouldn't even be considered softcore.
I will never understand this perspective of american culture where graphic violence, murder and war crimes are perfectly fine entertainment but 2 characters being intimate with each other is considered such a taboo.
On that note isn't This War of Mine rated Teen or something despite being based on one of the most horrific parts of the Yugoslav Civil War? I don't think that's an inappropiate rating but it's wild that it can be lower than Mass Effect and GTA V when those games are about on par with what you'd get from an action movie.
@@hedgehog3180 I think it's probably because This War of Mine has a zoomed-out perspective. Plus, many nasty things are told to the player in text, rather than being shown up-front
I remember when Fox News came out with this "sex simulator" bullshit back in the day. I was at the end of high school, and wasn't really into politics but this was the first hint I got about how full of shit right wing media was
Fox only broke and escalated the story, they had full backing across the political spectrum. There's a reason Rockstar modeled Lady Liberty's face in GTA IV after Clinton.
politicians in general are full of shit when it comes to video games or any relatively recent piece of entertainment or technology. Look around your fucking congress, it's almost completely dominated by 80-90-year old white males. They grown up in 1950's, they remember fucking James Dean starring in Rebel without a Cause. THEY WERE THERE ON ITS ACTUAL CINEMATIC RELEASE. It's a country that is ran by a certain generation that just refuses to let it go. You just had a walking corpse drop out of a presidental race, but only after it has became painfully obvious that winning is impossible and his opponent needs to actually try hard in order to lose this. Btw this opponent is also 80 years old. These people were already pretty damn old even during the original NES popularity, in mid 1980's. This is who you're dealing with. They have no idea or interest in gaming lol.
Meanwhile in [current year] somehow left wing media has gone so utterly batshit is makes Fox News seem sane in comparison. What the actual fuck is happening in the world now
I mean I can’t deny us on the right have had some bad takes in the past. But now a days it’s definitely the Left who have the most smooth brain takes and beliefs today controlling the narrative.
The funny part is that the first time I played Mass Effect I didn't even realize there was a romance subplot because I apparently chose the "friend" dialog choices for both Ashley and Liara. But romances in video games are almost always so poorly written. At least the Miranda romance in ME2 almost kinda made sense since they had something in common and that one only happens if you actually pursue it, as opposed to the ME1 romances which were barely more complicated than "I listened to your sad story, you good looking, sex now please."
Yeah, I played through the entire trilogy three or four times as virgin Shep because romance plots in video games are always so boring, contrived, and have no actual impact on the story and gameplay. Which is actually why Mass Effect is a nice change of pace. Some of the best and funniest dialog comes up in the romantic arcs. And it's intentionally funny too. In most games the best you can hope for is that it's bad enough to be amusing.
@@michealdrake3421 seriously. I only got into ME when the legendary dropped, and only got around to the Tali subplot on my 6th playthrough. I see now why that arc has the reputation it does. Makes it even funnier that the devs didn't expect Garrus or Tali to become fan favorites in the first place.
As a guy with zero personal game, it has always pissed me off how laughably easy romancing the hottest options out there always is in gaming. One reason I'll never come anywhere close to any chatbot: if it's so easy, it can't be true. Would be awesome to see a game where your level of attraction depends on your stats and physical appearance rather than selecting dialogue option. Of course, hard to imagine in today's climate (Kotaku: "Fatshaming in game strips romance options from body positive players!") but once this whole craze has withered away and died, who knows.
@@yarpen26 In fairness, chubby chasers exist, so you could pretty easily get around that by having certain other romances locked to bigger characters, but the main reason it doesn't happen is because it'd be hard to program in, since EVERY option in a character creator (which is a lot, with how many options there can be nowadays) would need to be given a different number to affect the 'attraction' stat. Combined with most RPGs having some sort of Charisma stat anyway, it's just generally easier and more convenient for both parties to not have to go through the extra effort. That said, Fable: The Lost Chapters does have a system like this, but that game doesn't really have a character creator and more so your character's appearance is changed based on several different factors, as well as the game not having any proper romances besides one, so I don't know if that really counts. That, and The Sims 4, but that's not an RPG (and is also TS4 lol) so it's also debatable if that counts.
@@TheBiggestJake If you're watching on a PC you can get an extension called Sponsorblock. Doesn't always detect baked in ads, but it skips them automatically most of the time.
I think it's funny how people who criticize video games often turn out to be pretty fucked up themselves. There was a California senator who criticized Rockstar Games, only to eventually end up doing prison time for various crimes including fucking ARMS DEALING.
I love how the conservative pundit at the start says the game is about treating women like their objects by men…. Yet Tali zorah the most popular romance in mass effects entire franchise is centered around the fact you don’t know what she looks like and you have to accept her for who she is and has a very strong expressive, and opinionated, personality. even by alien humanoid standards in ME she doesn’t follow traditional beauty standards by having only 3 fingers, digitgrade legs with 3 toe….no wait correction 4th ankle toe cause she’s female, and has literal glowing eyes…. And the response to just her face reveal was met with such rage and outrage it was NOT restored in mass effect legendary edition and replaced with all new ACTUAL art. Edit: oh right I forgot and her ….”big night” scene in BOTH games where she is romancable…. FADE TO BLACK after she takes off her mask with an FOV that doesn’t let you see her face. Meaning the most popular romance in the game…is also literally the most tame and contains no improper content other than their jokes. Unless they count hugging her after finding her father’s body as improper content….oh wait it’s a man showing empathy and emotion of course conservatives would lose it over that.
You had me until the very end, where you took all your valid criticism and used it to just sideswipe a general "conservative" notion like some unhinged lefty. As if cultural media hasn't shown strong men comforting women before. No, that's apparently just a new concept that cropped up in the past few years so those darn righties can just get triggered.
"Mass Effect, in terms of suggestive content, is on par with an episode of Family Guy." Okay, I'll give EA credit for roasting Fox there, but it still doesn't excuse everything they've done.
This isn't about the sex scenes, but one of the most outrageous comments she makes is about how the game depicts women, saying they exist as sex objects for the male character and male players, when just about every woman you come across in ME1 is extremely competent, strong, accomplished or powerful, not even just companions but NPC's too. It probably has one of the best depictions of women in the entire catalogue of games
5:58 What kind of corn did they watch that the silhouette of a side bood qualifies as corn? 7:08 That bit was not well researched at all. You have a consentual emotional realationship with those people and the choice of how many is 0 and 1. Why do they always act like people would do the same thing in RL they do in Videogames? How stupid do they think we are? Pacman is a drugaddict pillpopper. 11:55 You know there was no brainstorming, no deliberation. Someone just started it and a lot of people piled in.
@@ezrabanksthethirdlegit saw Andromeda on sale and decided to play it because it was so cheap. The gameplay was fun and I liked quite a bit of the crew, but my god was the story mediocre as shit and the animations on some characters are still broken af lmao
@ezrabanksthethird After I beat 3, I decided I'd try out ME:A and I think I made it... Like 2 hours in? Maybe 3. Either way it's been sitting in my steam library since then thinking about what it did to be put in the corner.
It took me a few years to finally play and beat Mass Effect Andromeda. Saw this thing where Andromeda was supposed to be a passion project despite a lot of the original developers having left before, or during, so what they had left was developers who were fans of the trilogy without the direction of the veteran developers of the franchise. In a way, that got my respect for those who tried. Anyway, more I learned about the development of it, I got inspired to play it again and actually went and beat it.
Mass Effect 2 was released in 2010 and it had to be toned down by not offering gay romance choices. (or at least less of them) Sad thing is if Mass Effect came out in 2024 with gay romance options it would get backlash for being “woke.”
It was a wild time, like how they used to be angry at boardgames but then discovered videogames and today we are just showing porn on childrens TV shows.
Right? A video game shows a nipple and everybody loses their shit, but RUclips Kids pushes clips from Happy Tree Friends and Panty and Stocking, that's perfectly fine, thanks so much for curating my kid's entertainment for me Google, I can't be bothered to do that myself.
Violence is np. Blood is np. Exploding enemies is no. Death is np. Partial nudity is not np. Tasteful romance is not np. Consensual Relationships are not np. Logic brought to you by christian mothers from the 1920s murica and the gun lobby. I had to rewrite this text 10 times because it got instant deleted.
Nowadays its the Christian mothers and gun lobby supporting stuff like mass effect 3 while the feminists and sjws consider it not np in the exact same way the fox lady describes it
@@vee1267 yay! let's favor porn addiction in kids, what could possibly go wrong? Once videogames were about deciding which spell to prepare or what equipment to load, now it's about selecting the best peen config for maximum gooning, doesn't matter less than 20% of players finished act II. HJChrist I'd never believe I'd see the day I agree with those idiots in the video (I don't) but damn we went stright into a rabbit hole on the other side of the wall.
I'm so glad we are in an age where its rapidly becoming standard for RPG games to have a character creator where you get to choose how big of a cock you want your female character to have, and if you want uncut or cut.
Great video. I’m still bitter about the toned down romance options in ME2. Jack and femshep is such a no brainer I didn’t even think maleshep could romance her when I first saw the character
The even worse one is Tali where she has the same romance line toward both male and femshep, but only maleshep is able to follow up. Like what??? And in Lair of the Shadowbroker there is the same log that implies Tali's attraction to shep regardless of their gender.
@@ExternalDialogueI know the dialogue you’re talking about!!! Tali suggests linking up suits to both Sheps, but only MShep can pursue her romantically 😔
I grew up in a household where I knew who Rush Limbaugh was young (“militant homosexuals” was a thing I remember hearing as young as four), Fox News was what my dad watched when I was growing up. I was heavily aware of all of this. But it was a gaming friendly household (they wanted me to spend less time gaming but I was severely depressed, and gaming was the cope), but wow do I remember A LOT more about this than I thought. Your intro bit with Glenn Beck gave me a *REAL* violent flashback to my parents house in the mid-2000s, and the rest kept me there. Edit; there are two variations of Fox News as well, the local Fox channel, that has Family Guy and the Simpsons aired on, which are entertainment related and owned by Disney now I believe. And the Fox News Channel which didn’t transfer hands and was originally used to broadcast Rush Limbaugh’s short lived 4 year tv series as a sort of test pilot proto-Fox News Channel. Vivid memories of coming home from a half day at school and my dad changing Cartoon Network to Rush Limbaugh, mid-Smurfs episode. I was like five, so, totally messed with my mood. Part of the reason I don’t like Limbaugh, he also just skeeves me out as a person.
The thing is that sort of thing goes on on a regular basis now. What she did is mild compared to what some people are doing frequently in so called "game journalism" these days. The culture war is pretty intense in all forms of entertainment and doubly so in the gaming industry.
Hot take inbound. If you're children are too young to know the difference between a game and reality, they shouldn't be playing M rated games. Just a thought
Amazing video as always but i have a request Mr Cheesecake, can you find the missing dr pepper promo can for dead space 2. It featured a rare maroon skin that was only available via the code that came with the bottle
I mean, from the perspective of a reactionary moral panic, Mass effect really did "*CoRrUpT*" one child- me!. I was raised in a very conservative household, by then relocated from the city to a rural area. I'm bisexual, and I had some pretty bad internal hatred starting to ferment in my tiny child brain. I was just starting puberty around the time the first mass effect game came out, and trying to reconcile my attraction to both boys and girls with what I had been taught about being gay being a sickness that eventually turned you into some kind of sex-killer child murderer pervert. It was rated 12 in the UK IIRC, so I was allowed to play it.... and then the cool blue chicks in my cool space game were all bisexual or lesbian women.... and one of them could be my character's girlfriend??? EVEN IF I WAS PLAYING AS A GIRL? It's fucking laughable that it was attacked as some misogynistic harem simulator where children learn that women are just sex objects for Commander Shepard- certified male manly man- to play with. Mass Effect was literally how I found out that lesbians were a real thing, that being gay wasn't an evil brain disease, and that people outside of the little bubble my family had crafted for me, really didn't care who you fancied, and if they did, they were actually the weird ones. That game was kinda the first piece of media I consumed that treated the topic of being gay as anything but gross, shameful, or funny. The first nudge I got out of a bubble that was trying to teach me to view sex, sexuality, and gender like that- not putting those ideas into my head. So here's to violent video games corrupting the nations youth!, I guess?.
Mass effect was one of the last games to be rated by the bbfc before they handed game ratings off to pegi. Its kinda funny how it got a 12 since their focus is on film and compared to anything you see in film, its incredibly tame.
"It's a Man in this game deciding how many women he wants to be with." every teenage boy near a TV when this line was uttered suddenly paid attention, but not in the way Fox hoped
Its rather ironic that certain gamers got upset about someone saying a game is too sexy when there is literally a page on Steam dedicated to letting you know if a game iss "too woke" or not...run by certain gamers.
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In the Bring Down The Sky DLC you can find a shelter in the map from where they broadcast a radio station. In there you can read a statement made by the broadcasters saying some people were complaining that the music they played was too extreme and was hurting young minds and making them want to have sex with aliens. Those people had apparently never actually heard the music, but had heard someone talk about it somewhere.
You have the option to turn the music back on, and it's elevator music - the most vanilla, boring ass music ever.
That's fucking GOLD! XD
I didn't know they took a dig at fox like that
I first played this in 2018 and wondered why this was in the game, it seemed so specific 😂
But it also doesn't help that the elevator music are also bangers. 😂
@@sopranophantomista I once searched for extended versions of ME elevator music on YT to ironically play it in the background. And let me tell you, it's not ironic anymore! 😂
It's hilarious how much she exaggerated the sex scenes in the game, the game barely shows anything let alone lets you control it😭
I actually laughed out loud at the “full nudity” quote from that anchor
@@jacobbecklehimer7781 They were technically fully nude. I mean you couldn't tell whether they had clothes on or not.
It's just straight up lying. It should be illegal for journalists to lie so openly.
@@jasperzanovich2504that's just implication though
If you watch the actual interview, they show the 'worst' parts as B Roll on live TV. If that doesn't show how mild it is... 🤣
"It's a Man in this game deciding how many women he wants to be with."
Did she not know about FemShep?
That would require a modicum of research and journalistic integrity. Way too much effort on their part.
tbh at the time Femshep felt like an afterthought for Bioware too 😒
I'm a woman and when I played male shep, it was a fun thing to do! 😂
@@fluorescentgreys which is wild considering they originally actually wanted Shepard to be fem, some pretty major changes happened in development
If she knew about FemShep then probably she'd just pivot to the same-sex romance with Liara as an example of Bioware "corrupting" the kids
I'm commander Shepard, and this is my favorite controversy on the Citadel
I'm Commander Shepherd, and this is my favorite RUclips channel.
@@jtjames79where?
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Every action movie from the 90's onwards had sex scenes and violence that surpassed anything video games had, but that didn't seem to matter.
That’s what I am saying! Why do they think video games aren’t a valid medium it’s absurd lol
Everyone knows by now blaming every evil thing that a kid does is a result of video games gives them 10+ moral highground and good journalism points which still happens till this day.
@@bigdot2355 Which is why nobody watches the news anymore except the same boomers from this story.
The news media is a joke and nobody smart has trusted them for decades.
It's all unnecessary
Funny how they didn't bawl out dragon age origins for having scantily clad sex scenes too 😂
You forgot to include the best response Bioware had to this entire controversy. When the Developers released the Bring Down The Sky DLC for Mass Effect 1, one of the points of interest you can drive up to on Asteroid X57 is a small Radio Station. Examining the Terminal Inside the Station normally describes it as a Small Pirate Music Station that the Engineers on the Asteroid had set up while they were working and some of the promotional tag lines they have scripted out. In the PC Version and in all versions of Legendary Edition however, Examining the Radio Terminal a second time pulls up a new prompt that reads; "You notice an open text file, the personal journal of the station operator. It reads in part: "Project director wants to shut us down. Says our music is too 'extreme', that we're inciting the younger workers to riot and sleep with aliens. I asked him if he'd listened to us. He said he'd talked to someone who'd heard about what we play."" This will forever be one of my favorite Easter Eggs in video games.
You missed the final punchline. You can turn on the music and hear what they play... basically elevator/hold music.
Interesting how they didn't go after the punching reporter scene.
Well in the first game there wasnt amy hostilities really between the news reporter and shepard. But in me2 and 3 theyre both kinda easy to get mad at. I think that was just them being funny about the news take of the first game.
@@36inc It was a reference to Geraldo Rivera getting punched by someone he ambushed as a reporter back in the 90's
@@SpioradDorchathat name sounds like some spanish parody of geralt of rivia
@@ramiropiwnicki5970 The Witcher's sidegig; journalism.
Is that not an appropriate response to media?
I remember how pissed I was when I got to that first romance scene in ME1. This is what they're bitchin' about?
😂 Would have felt like a massive letdown if the rest of the game hadn't been good by that point.
My middle school health class textbook was more explicit than any of the romance scenes in the original trilogy games.
They are crying about seeing a cartoon side boob for a few seconds in a game that took me dozens of hours to complete on my first play through. Meanwhile there are incredibly explicit material that is easy to find online for free, and real guns are ridiculously easy to get in many states.
Games rated M anything she says about protecting the children is invalid.
To be fair, that hasn't really stopped kids from playing these kinds of games. A lot of little kids played GTA 5 and GTA Online. It's on the parents that allowed them to play, but still though, an M rating is hardly a barrier for entry, especially nowadays.
@@lmno567 Bro, its illegal to buy an M game if you're underage. How is that not a perfectly defined barrier to entry? You can't deflect parental failure into fascism. to rate something is all we can do. anything more is fucking cersorship.
@@DL-df3lg Parents bought/still buy their kids these kinds of games all the time, especially back when this happened. There was even a term for very young kids in multiplayer lobbies, like in CoD. They were called "squeakers" on account of their high-pitch voice that clearly came from someone under the age of 17. Where is this talk of fascism coming from? No one said anything about that, but you. It is a family issue, not a national issue, so it is very much on the parents for getting them this kind of game.
@@DL-df3lgIllegal maybe but never enforced. I remember many years ago my dad took me to buy Skyrim and Watch Dogs 1 with my birthday money. Cashier didn't care whatsoever
@@TacoLoverPerson Your dad took you, that's the key line lol
Not only are their claims about the game degrading females into humpable objects false, it also undermines the very essence of Liara's character, who, in fact, is a highly educated cultural anthropologist in spite of the game's own stereotypes about Asari being depraved lust demons.
Yeah kinda wild, the Mass Effect games while having some issues _(miranda colonoscopy cam)_ were fairly ahead of their time in terms of representing women in games as equally deep and complex characters with agency and independence.
There wouldn’t be anything wrong if they were only objects
@@ExternalDialoguethat’s not an issue
Old Bioware was good about that, KotOR, Jade Empire and ME 1&2.
@oz_jones they also worked on Baldur's Gate 1&2.
They would have LOST IT if Baldur's Gate 3 came out in 2007
And in 2007 the baulders gate people would've used the news as fee advertisement and made bg4 even raunchier. Feels like nowadays people are quick to censor things the media wants them to rather than double down like they did back then
Nah, they pivoted to things not being fuckable _enough_ a few years back like with the M&M's. Baldur's Gate would've been too vanilla for them.
@@username1660 Did you read the comment you replied to?
@@KristianKumpula Look man it was like 2am for me cut me some slack :(
The only reason they’re not losing it right now is because BG3 is so universally admired and video games have become a better respected medium. The basic attitudes have not changed at all.
The best part about this whole controversy? Even JACK FUCKING THOMPSON called Fox News's coverage of this game total bullshit.
For those who don't know, Jack Thompson tried to ban GTA...
After failing so often, the court took his law license.
You done goofed!
If you got Jack Thompson of all people tilted about this tomfoolery, you gotta read the room somewhere immediately.
The Mass Effect 2 offer could have saved her career. People forget how much hype was around that game. Its first real ad was aired during the Superbowl.
That's crazy.
being honest from the start would have made it so her career didn't need saving
As someone who was at the time of Mass Effects release, a horny teenage boy, I cannot stress enough that the only thing greater than the fuss around this game's sex scenes, was my disappointment on actually getting to that part of the game.
The "exaggerated sex scenes" may have felt like they were dissuading people from getting the game, but the truth is it was the greatest marketing ever for Mass Effect 1. The first thing I ever heard by word of mouth about this game was "lesbian sex scene". These sorts of news stories were activating 14 year old neurons.
I was 11 at the time and heard nothing of the news, but one day a friend of my dad's gifted me Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2 and Mass Effect 1.
The first one I recognised as definitely not being for kids.
But in hindsight... did he think ME1 was in the same caliber because he had seen the news?
Either way, I got a favourite game from that lol.
Honestly, ew.
The journalists must have been having really bad sex to claim these were "exaggerated"
@@EvilParagon4I played the first DoA Volleyball game when I was like 4 or 5 years old. I was too busy playing the game to care about what the characters were wearing.
@@MintyLime703 That's because lowkey, those games were kinda good. Both as a volleyball game and a friendship simulator. The boob physics were ridiculous but that's DoA for ya. They kind of occupy a weird space from back in the day where these fan service type games were far better than they ever had the right to be. Rumble Roses is another one. It has some rather in depth wrestling mechanics and a decently steep learning curve. But you probably wouldn't think that if you were to look it up. lol
ME didn't ruin her life, she did it to herself.
stupid journalist: you turned them against me
EA: you have done that yourself
I thought this was gonna be about an author who wrote a book called mass effect before BioWare announced mass effect, making her book impossible to google. Like that movie frozen. No, the other one
Your lack of specificity makes your comment much less useful almost zero actually but "thanks" I suppose for pointing out the possibility for possible scenario.
@@phlogistanjones2722 guess you woke up on the wrong side of bed then
Now that would've been interesting
I thought it was gonna be about the 4th tie-in novel Mass Effect Deception. After the first three were written by one of the lead writers for the game and were pretty good, they brought in a new author for the 4th book who clearly did not understand Mass Effect nor had a grasp on preestablished lore. The book was a mess and heavily criticised, so much so that Bioware and EA had to apologise, and promised to rerelease the book with all the glaring errors corrected. I don't think they ever happened in the end however.
@@goldenfiberwheat238it’s a bot. Ignore and report it.
@6:52 It's basically like trying to "protect the kids" by banning liqueur chocolates: "Yes they say those chocolates are for 'adults', but let's look statistically at WHO'S eating chocolates! It's children! Children eat the vast majority of chocolates in the world! Do you support children .. and babies! ... having access to liqueur! You monster!!!"
Only degenerates use alcohol.
Well that is literally why you can't buy flavored cigarettes. Adults hate flavor so the idea of an adult product with flavor must mean it's being marketed towards kids, fast forward 25 years and now flavored cigarettes are more popular than ever except they have to be battery powered.
@@hornmonk3zit wait. there's no flavored cigarettes in the US??
@@marii8ytb Nope, just regulars or menthols. You can still get flavored cigars like Swishers though.
But you can get birthday cake flavored weed or nicotine vapes mailed right to your door without an ID all day long. That and nitrous oxide cans that are clearly marketed towards kids to abuse too. Huff gas until you permanently forget how to tie your shoes at 13, but don't you dare think about smoking something that might give you lung cancer in 50 years if you do it twenty times a day.
@@marii8ytbnope
It always confuses me that people believed people who had little to no experience with what they're talking about rather than people who have actually played the game before.
I remember asking for GTA V for years and my parents kept saying no because you could apparently rape people in it. The news at the time was running with that story because modders went into a streamers game, locked onto the streamers character and started doing a thrusting animation. No matter how many times I told them they wouldn't believe me. Also they never mentioned valid reasons like the strip club, heavy drug use, trevor existing or the torture scene
That's always been the case. Nobody in video game journalism actually plays video games. It's why everyone knows that kotaku is a joke and you can't spell ignorant without IGN
@@michealdrake3421and even if they do, they can’t play em well. There’s was this one journalist who said that DMC5’s soundtrack was bad. However, the themes in that game are based on style rank. He thought the soundtrack was bad because he couldn’t get the song to actually kick up
Lol, i remember jumping into online for the first time and meeting one such "modder"
Good memories!
Just look at what channel it happened on, nothing has changed since then.
V is a boring game though. They did you a favor.
And this was the moment that I began to question what my dad told me since he’d take Faux News at their word back in the day and believed the entirety of the attempted smear job they pulled with regards to Mass Effect, only for him to get mad at me when I told him it was complete horse hockey since I actually had played the game and thus knew better.
My experience exactly with my mom and Anita Sarkeesian.
It can be hard to know the truth - but others not listen.
At this point I'm convinced Fox blew mind-controlling pheromones into the air sometime around when boomers were 20-30 that inalterably took over their minds, hence why all of them love Fox News and believe everything they say even though the generations born since transparently see through them.
@@greasey8695Anita was a blight for the gaming community. Hell she’s the reason why Journos and activists have invaded the Gaming’s scene. And the reason why we have such a dog water list of games now, and in the rare cases of good games ( space marine 2, first decent etc ) if they don’t tow the parties lines they throw a fit trying to exclaim it avoids anything they hold sacred in their destructive socialist views.
"god i WISH the scenes were as graphic as they say they are" - that one guy probably
"you got it pal!" 4chan circa 2008
Andromeda really leaned into it and went soft-core, too bad it doesn't make anyone want to play it because of lots of other reasons.
"The raptor alien with spy kid glasses"
The scream I scrumpt! How dare you burn my space husband so accurately and concisely 😂
You can't romance Mordin because Salarians don't have romantic feelings (except with asari)!
FUCK THAT, gimme my salarian romance! XDDDD
They process emotions too fast to set up a long term relationship with someone else.
At first I was gonna say it’s kinda weird having sex with basically an anthropomorphic frog, but then I would sound like a hypocrite considering I did have multiple relationships with Tali…. But to be fair Qurians, at least the female Qurians look human enough considering their “ assets “ and I guess face wise their not to bad.
For the record, Geoff Knightely's dead eyes make me feel that he has a couple skeletons in his closet.
"training kids to be killers" is weird in a country where conscription at 18 is legal
US army recruits at CoD events
Dude's a Mormon who was high on prescription pills at the time.
@@MagicalSkyWizardand high schools.
They are the same people who think giving a 14 year old a gun is patriotic.
@@rick7424i actually have zero issue with that coming from a gun owner
its funny how much of a contrast this was to the "hot coffee" controversy with GTA: San Andreas just a few years earlier
Hot Coffee did actually exist though.
@@oz_jones it was a mod tho, and even at that not graphic. Banning game because you could EDIT it to have sex is like banning blank sheets of paper because you could draw a dick on them.
It pisses me off no end how these so called journalists can come along and say x y and z about a videogame when in reality they a) have never played it. b) obsess over one particular aspect of it and blow it way out of proportion. c) say that it's "the work of the devil" or some other stupid bullshit because they don't understand the lore and or plot lines.
I never understood why violence, death and murder is so overlooked in every media but somehow anything sexual is seen as the worst thing possible, while being the literal reason we all are here having a life, makes 0 sense
Probably because violence doesn't spark the same level of discomfort that anything sexual does.
@@mattd5240 And that's the problem. What's your point?
@wul3391 My point is that is the reason why conservatives bash media that has anything sexual in it but typically leave violent media alone. They're all repressed. Which is why a lot of them are freaks, too.
@@mattd5240 it honestly should though. We should have a more viceral reaction to violence then we do to sex. Like the guy said were all here because our parents did it at least once. Its not like our parents have to mercilessly beat someone to death in order for us to get born. One is clearly more severe than the other and yet a tv show can show such brutal violence but god forbid they make a few double entendres
@@wul3391 No real point, just an observation. Also, did I not already respond to this? I feel like I did.
The thing is, the controversy is what got me into the franchise. I came for, what Cooper promised all of us, and stayed for the story telling and voice acting.
I stayed for the Asari futa fanart
@@ezrabanksthethird
THIS GUY GETS IT!!
You can't romance Mordin because players wouldn't romance anyone else. Like playing as Link in Soul Calibur 2
Legion: 😢
Oh now THIS is one from the archives.
Honestly, this was one of the dumbest takes I have ever seen in my entire life. Completely ignoring Shepard can be a man or a woman, the game is so Fucking far from just "Picking up women" it's laughable. She completely mises the humour, horror, bonds of fellowship and tragedy of this amazing game.
Worse still, she makes a big stink of "Sex Scenes" so tame they wouldn't even be considered softcore.
Its less explicit than a daytime soap opera.
It's funny how back then they called the Xbox the "SeXbox." Now, years later you have the Xbox Series X, which can be abbreviated to the "Xbox Se.X" 😂
The Xbox naming convention is just crazy... they should have just gone 2, 3 and 4, but noooo, we can't have Sony always beat us by one integer. 🙄
Mass Effect diden't ruin her. She ruined herself. She shouldn't have been making bold declarations about something she knew nothing about.
I will never understand this perspective of american culture where graphic violence, murder and war crimes are perfectly fine entertainment but 2 characters being intimate with each other is considered such a taboo.
Its not Christian
I’m American and it baffles me. It’s such a crazy double standard
As an American I don't understand either
On that note isn't This War of Mine rated Teen or something despite being based on one of the most horrific parts of the Yugoslav Civil War? I don't think that's an inappropiate rating but it's wild that it can be lower than Mass Effect and GTA V when those games are about on par with what you'd get from an action movie.
@@hedgehog3180 I think it's probably because This War of Mine has a zoomed-out perspective. Plus, many nasty things are told to the player in text, rather than being shown up-front
I remember seeing this when it aired, and how it was my first lesson in always be skeptical of journalists.
Alternative title: The (Mass)ive mistake caused by Mass Effect that had a disastrous effect on someone's life!
or: the mass effect of mass effect having a mass effect on someone’s life
I remember when Fox News came out with this "sex simulator" bullshit back in the day. I was at the end of high school, and wasn't really into politics but this was the first hint I got about how full of shit right wing media was
Fox only broke and escalated the story, they had full backing across the political spectrum. There's a reason Rockstar modeled Lady Liberty's face in GTA IV after Clinton.
politicians in general are full of shit when it comes to video games or any relatively recent piece of entertainment or technology.
Look around your fucking congress, it's almost completely dominated by 80-90-year old white males.
They grown up in 1950's, they remember fucking James Dean starring in Rebel without a Cause. THEY WERE THERE ON ITS ACTUAL CINEMATIC RELEASE.
It's a country that is ran by a certain generation that just refuses to let it go. You just had a walking corpse drop out of a presidental race, but only after it has became painfully obvious that winning is impossible and his opponent needs to actually try hard in order to lose this. Btw this opponent is also 80 years old.
These people were already pretty damn old even during the original NES popularity, in mid 1980's. This is who you're dealing with. They have no idea or interest in gaming lol.
Meanwhile in [current year] somehow left wing media has gone so utterly batshit is makes Fox News seem sane in comparison.
What the actual fuck is happening in the world now
When did you learn about the left wing?
I mean I can’t deny us on the right have had some bad takes in the past. But now a days it’s definitely the Left who have the most smooth brain takes and beliefs today controlling the narrative.
The funny part is that the first time I played Mass Effect I didn't even realize there was a romance subplot because I apparently chose the "friend" dialog choices for both Ashley and Liara.
But romances in video games are almost always so poorly written. At least the Miranda romance in ME2 almost kinda made sense since they had something in common and that one only happens if you actually pursue it, as opposed to the ME1 romances which were barely more complicated than "I listened to your sad story, you good looking, sex now please."
Yeah, I played through the entire trilogy three or four times as virgin Shep because romance plots in video games are always so boring, contrived, and have no actual impact on the story and gameplay.
Which is actually why Mass Effect is a nice change of pace. Some of the best and funniest dialog comes up in the romantic arcs. And it's intentionally funny too. In most games the best you can hope for is that it's bad enough to be amusing.
@@michealdrake3421 seriously. I only got into ME when the legendary dropped, and only got around to the Tali subplot on my 6th playthrough. I see now why that arc has the reputation it does. Makes it even funnier that the devs didn't expect Garrus or Tali to become fan favorites in the first place.
@@MajorHickE Tali is best girl. And the only thing funnier than drunk Tali is drunk Tali in love.
As a guy with zero personal game, it has always pissed me off how laughably easy romancing the hottest options out there always is in gaming. One reason I'll never come anywhere close to any chatbot: if it's so easy, it can't be true.
Would be awesome to see a game where your level of attraction depends on your stats and physical appearance rather than selecting dialogue option. Of course, hard to imagine in today's climate (Kotaku: "Fatshaming in game strips romance options from body positive players!") but once this whole craze has withered away and died, who knows.
@@yarpen26 In fairness, chubby chasers exist, so you could pretty easily get around that by having certain other romances locked to bigger characters, but the main reason it doesn't happen is because it'd be hard to program in, since EVERY option in a character creator (which is a lot, with how many options there can be nowadays) would need to be given a different number to affect the 'attraction' stat. Combined with most RPGs having some sort of Charisma stat anyway, it's just generally easier and more convenient for both parties to not have to go through the extra effort.
That said, Fable: The Lost Chapters does have a system like this, but that game doesn't really have a character creator and more so your character's appearance is changed based on several different factors, as well as the game not having any proper romances besides one, so I don't know if that really counts. That, and The Sims 4, but that's not an RPG (and is also TS4 lol) so it's also debatable if that counts.
Labeling the NordVPN chapter way longer than it actually is so that anyone trying to skip it is gonna miss a part of the video is absolutely foul 😭
And this is why videos with baked in ads get an automatic thumbs down and I skip ahead until the ad is gone, no matter how much video I miss.
Thanks for letting me know this creator doesn’t respect their viewers’ time.
Sponsorblock. Never leave home without it.
If youre gonna complain about baked in ads at least do it on a bigger channel. Content creators, especially newer ones still need to make a living.
@@TheBiggestJake If you're watching on a PC you can get an extension called Sponsorblock. Doesn't always detect baked in ads, but it skips them automatically most of the time.
If Garrus is a just a Raptor wearing a scouter, then Tali is a Salamander inside a Vacuum cleaner
You know, romancing Garrus in ME2 definitely changed SOMETHING in 13 year old me's brain chemistry 😏
That space velociraptors make for great partners?
@@alecdeter1999absolutely
The Garrus Effect is real. Love him
@@alecdeter1999 im gonna be honest, Nyreen in Omega dlc made me realize how hot Turians are
The author had it coming is all I'll say.
*Liaramancing Femsheps have entered the chat*
REPORTING FOR DUTY 🫡🫡
The most canon option.
I think it's funny how people who criticize video games often turn out to be pretty fucked up themselves. There was a California senator who criticized Rockstar Games, only to eventually end up doing prison time for various crimes including fucking ARMS DEALING.
7:03 "no more than just objects"?! mf, i almost cried when i met Liara again in me2
I cried after sacrificing Ashley on Virmire
I love how the conservative pundit at the start says the game is about treating women like their objects by men….
Yet Tali zorah the most popular romance in mass effects entire franchise is centered around the fact you don’t know what she looks like and you have to accept her for who she is and has a very strong expressive, and opinionated, personality. even by alien humanoid standards in ME she doesn’t follow traditional beauty standards by having only 3 fingers, digitgrade legs with 3 toe….no wait correction 4th ankle toe cause she’s female, and has literal glowing eyes….
And the response to just her face reveal was met with such rage and outrage it was NOT restored in mass effect legendary edition and replaced with all new ACTUAL art.
Edit: oh right I forgot and her ….”big night” scene in BOTH games where she is romancable…. FADE TO BLACK after she takes off her mask with an FOV that doesn’t let you see her face.
Meaning the most popular romance in the game…is also literally the most tame and contains no improper content other than their jokes.
Unless they count hugging her after finding her father’s body as improper content….oh wait it’s a man showing empathy and emotion of course conservatives would lose it over that.
You had me until the very end, where you took all your valid criticism and used it to just sideswipe a general "conservative" notion like some unhinged lefty.
As if cultural media hasn't shown strong men comforting women before. No, that's apparently just a new concept that cropped up in the past few years so those darn righties can just get triggered.
Now leftists lose it over anything men like lmao
"Mass Effect, in terms of suggestive content, is on par with an episode of Family Guy."
Okay, I'll give EA credit for roasting Fox there, but it still doesn't excuse everything they've done.
Tourists should really stay out of things they know nothing about.
This isn't about the sex scenes, but one of the most outrageous comments she makes is about how the game depicts women, saying they exist as sex objects for the male character and male players, when just about every woman you come across in ME1 is extremely competent, strong, accomplished or powerful, not even just companions but NPC's too. It probably has one of the best depictions of women in the entire catalogue of games
If Mass Effect came out today Fox would probably complain that it's woke.
Lets Bang, Ok?
Fox allows Family Guy to run free but has an issue with Mass Effect. 😂
I miss 2000s internet arguments when the "based and redpilled" response was "I've seen it all"
"Geoffs are a different breed" absolutely on point
5:58 What kind of corn did they watch that the silhouette of a side bood qualifies as corn?
7:08 That bit was not well researched at all.
You have a consentual emotional realationship with those people and the choice of how many is 0 and 1. Why do they always act like people would do the same thing in RL they do in Videogames? How stupid do they think we are? Pacman is a drugaddict pillpopper.
11:55 You know there was no brainstorming, no deliberation. Someone just started it and a lot of people piled in.
Mass Effect is a highlight in gaming history, and a reminder of when the industry was... better.
The wars occurring at the time simply weren’t salacious enough to garner media attention.
"We'll bang OK" - Commander Shepard, canon quote from mass effect 1
Okay, but whose book do I review bomb for the abysmal ME3 ending?
No need, that already damned the franchise enough.
I don’t know anyone who played ME Andromeda (or even knew that it existed)
@@ezrabanksthethirdlegit saw Andromeda on sale and decided to play it because it was so cheap. The gameplay was fun and I liked quite a bit of the crew, but my god was the story mediocre as shit and the animations on some characters are still broken af lmao
@@ezrabanksthethirdThats because the games shit. If it was a good game it would be plenty popular.
@ezrabanksthethird
After I beat 3, I decided I'd try out ME:A and I think I made it... Like 2 hours in? Maybe 3. Either way it's been sitting in my steam library since then thinking about what it did to be put in the corner.
It took me a few years to finally play and beat Mass Effect Andromeda.
Saw this thing where Andromeda was supposed to be a passion project despite a lot of the original developers having left before, or during, so what they had left was developers who were fans of the trilogy without the direction of the veteran developers of the franchise.
In a way, that got my respect for those who tried.
Anyway, more I learned about the development of it, I got inspired to play it again and actually went and beat it.
"if only I can watch the real cowboy bebop" *goes to find out how to buy the hard copy*
Mass Effect 2 was released in 2010 and it had to be toned down by not offering gay romance choices. (or at least less of them) Sad thing is if Mass Effect came out in 2024 with gay romance options it would get backlash for being “woke.”
It was a wild time, like how they used to be angry at boardgames but then discovered videogames and today we are just showing porn on childrens TV shows.
Right? A video game shows a nipple and everybody loses their shit, but RUclips Kids pushes clips from Happy Tree Friends and Panty and Stocking, that's perfectly fine, thanks so much for curating my kid's entertainment for me Google, I can't be bothered to do that myself.
That’s not a thing
you sure about that?
Violence is np. Blood is np. Exploding enemies is no. Death is np. Partial nudity is not np. Tasteful romance is not np.
Consensual Relationships are not np.
Logic brought to you by christian mothers from the 1920s murica and the gun lobby.
I had to rewrite this text 10 times because it got instant deleted.
Nowadays its the Christian mothers and gun lobby supporting stuff like mass effect 3 while the feminists and sjws consider it not np in the exact same way the fox lady describes it
I assure you muslim and jewish mothers are no different. It's the universal hypocrisy of conservative/religious ideology
I want to be gay femshep god dammit
Gay femshep
@@saschaberger3212 why is saying 'gay femshep rights' worthy of comment deletion
Lucky Balder Gate 3 didn’t come out then. Lol. But movies and even TV shows have always had more sex in then vs video games.
Good video.
"We'll bang, okay?" -commander Shepard, maybe, probably.
Other gaming channels have Q/A segments at the end, I would love to hear some more off script thoughts from you. Great video as always!
It would've been gangster if EA sent Geoff as their rep. "He's a contracted employee".
and then was cyberpunk 2077...
I cannot think of any other game that lets you decide whether you’re cut or uncut.
@@sperglord3825Baldur’s Gate 3 does 😂
@@vee1267 yay! let's favor porn addiction in kids, what could possibly go wrong? Once videogames were about deciding which spell to prepare or what equipment to load, now it's about selecting the best peen config for maximum gooning, doesn't matter less than 20% of players finished act II.
HJChrist I'd never believe I'd see the day I agree with those idiots in the video (I don't) but damn we went stright into a rabbit hole on the other side of the wall.
I'm so glad we are in an age where its rapidly becoming standard for RPG games to have a character creator where you get to choose how big of a cock you want your female character to have, and if you want uncut or cut.
10:26 my guy
14:57 To be fair, it would have been the second best option. Some people can not play games like this well and won't get far.
These guys would have lost their MINDS if they saw anything from Andromeda's scenes huh
Great video. I’m still bitter about the toned down romance options in ME2. Jack and femshep is such a no brainer I didn’t even think maleshep could romance her when I first saw the character
The even worse one is Tali where she has the same romance line toward both male and femshep, but only maleshep is able to follow up. Like what??? And in Lair of the Shadowbroker there is the same log that implies Tali's attraction to shep regardless of their gender.
@@ExternalDialogueI know the dialogue you’re talking about!!! Tali suggests linking up suits to both Sheps, but only MShep can pursue her romantically 😔
You have to be involved with your kid...
... lady that is what being a parent is.
War never changes
No surprise from fox news 😂
I grew up in a household where I knew who Rush Limbaugh was young (“militant homosexuals” was a thing I remember hearing as young as four), Fox News was what my dad watched when I was growing up. I was heavily aware of all of this.
But it was a gaming friendly household (they wanted me to spend less time gaming but I was severely depressed, and gaming was the cope), but wow do I remember A LOT more about this than I thought.
Your intro bit with Glenn Beck gave me a *REAL* violent flashback to my parents house in the mid-2000s, and the rest kept me there.
Edit; there are two variations of Fox News as well, the local Fox channel, that has Family Guy and the Simpsons aired on, which are entertainment related and owned by Disney now I believe. And the Fox News Channel which didn’t transfer hands and was originally used to broadcast Rush Limbaugh’s short lived 4 year tv series as a sort of test pilot proto-Fox News Channel.
Vivid memories of coming home from a half day at school and my dad changing Cartoon Network to Rush Limbaugh, mid-Smurfs episode. I was like five, so, totally messed with my mood. Part of the reason I don’t like Limbaugh, he also just skeeves me out as a person.
I take great pride in knowing I rarely think about the children. Too busy enjoying video games.
The thing is that sort of thing goes on on a regular basis now. What she did is mild compared to what some people are doing frequently in so called "game journalism" these days. The culture war is pretty intense in all forms of entertainment and doubly so in the gaming industry.
Hot take inbound. If you're children are too young to know the difference between a game and reality, they shouldn't be playing M rated games. Just a thought
"I'm not really lactose intolerant. I just don't put up with lactose's stupid drama." ~Kasumi Goto
8:18 jump scare.
Cooper: mass effect ruined my life
Mass effect: you are a games journalist... you have done this to yourself.
AW YEAH A STANDARD DAIRY DESSERT UPLOAD LETS GO
Mass Effect didn't do anything. She ruined her own life by not fact-checking.
the general public being ignorant ass hats?
say it ain't so
Cooper should join Kotaku, she'd probably be championed for her hot takes by like minded "journalists"
Ngl, I thought this video would be about the author who made several lore errors in an official Mass Effect book
Review bombing was every bit as justified (if not more so) as the no research done controversy IMHO.
I wanna play the version cooper said, seems comical
Amazing video as always but i have a request Mr Cheesecake, can you find the missing dr pepper promo can for dead space 2. It featured a rare maroon skin that was only available via the code that came with the bottle
I mean, from the perspective of a reactionary moral panic, Mass effect really did "*CoRrUpT*" one child- me!.
I was raised in a very conservative household, by then relocated from the city to a rural area. I'm bisexual, and I had some pretty bad internal hatred starting to ferment in my tiny child brain.
I was just starting puberty around the time the first mass effect game came out, and trying to reconcile my attraction to both boys and girls with what I had been taught about being gay being a sickness that eventually turned you into some kind of sex-killer child murderer pervert.
It was rated 12 in the UK IIRC, so I was allowed to play it.... and then the cool blue chicks in my cool space game were all bisexual or lesbian women.... and one of them could be my character's girlfriend??? EVEN IF I WAS PLAYING AS A GIRL?
It's fucking laughable that it was attacked as some misogynistic harem simulator where children learn that women are just sex objects for Commander Shepard- certified male manly man- to play with.
Mass Effect was literally how I found out that lesbians were a real thing, that being gay wasn't an evil brain disease, and that people outside of the little bubble my family had crafted for me, really didn't care who you fancied, and if they did, they were actually the weird ones.
That game was kinda the first piece of media I consumed that treated the topic of being gay as anything but gross, shameful, or funny. The first nudge I got out of a bubble that was trying to teach me to view sex, sexuality, and gender like that- not putting those ideas into my head. So here's to violent video games corrupting the nations youth!, I guess?.
Kinda sounds like she did it to herself.
My only gripe about Mass Effect was that I should have played it when I was younger ironic enough.
I owe you an apology, Geoff. I wasn’t really familiar with your game.
isnt it ironic that gta exists and this lady was this worked up over mass effect? like sheeesh
Mass effect was one of the last games to be rated by the bbfc before they handed game ratings off to pegi. Its kinda funny how it got a 12 since their focus is on film and compared to anything you see in film, its incredibly tame.
"It's a Man in this game deciding how many women he wants to be with."
every teenage boy near a TV when this line was uttered suddenly paid attention, but not in the way Fox hoped
No, it's "Why can't I romance Doctor Chocolates?"
Its rather ironic that certain gamers got upset about someone saying a game is too sexy when there is literally a page on Steam dedicated to letting you know if a game iss "too woke" or not...run by certain gamers.
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