Jewish law doesn't say that. They've been reentering tombs as a regular practice for thousands of years to collect bones to place in ossuaries or sarcophagi.
@@ashridhar That is such bs nonsense dude. Is SHE expected to handle the job? No. Does anything you said make sense or is it at least accurate? No. Even just after WW2, many Jewish communities wished they could exhume hundreds or thousands of bodies in mass graves to reenter them, discover the end of lost relatives, and even to find Hitler, as there is a very real and likely chance that his actual body is still in a grave with a Jew somewhere outside of Berlin, but none of this could be done because they, themselves, refused to do it out of principle with their religion. You do not make the facts.
@@Jordan-rb28you are nonsense. The radical left is nonsense. I used to like 60 minutes but every episode is now politically motivated for the 2024 election and globalism.
I find the reporter's accusatory tone highly offensive. Looking back through history requires the humility of realizing we weren't there, and should not judge. The British government and Channel Islands officials all faced difficult, even agonizing decisions all throughout the war. This subject should be handled with dignity and respect. I hope any updates are assigned to a reporter who understands this. Dr. Gilly Carr, and the Islanders interviewed, gave it the gravitas it deserves.
At the end of the war, the British government was presiding over a ruined and bankrupt country. They had a monumental task to set about recovering, converting the economy and industry back to peacetime usefulness, rebuilding bombed cities and providing for the demobilised military personnel. At the same time, they were involved in administering parts of Germany, dealing with refugees and supporting empire possessions abandoned by the retreating Japanese in the car east. Against that background, it is hardly surprising that little attention was given to possible German atrocities against forced labourers and European POW's in the Channel Islands. It would have seemed barely a drop compared to the millions murdered in Europe.
The British government also sent food and supplies to the Channel Islanders who were quite literally starving at the war's end, despite having very little to spare. Your comment provides great perspective.
To be clear, there are several documentaries produced a while ago -some available here on RUclips - about Lager Sylt and the other Alderney camps, plus quite a bit of literature. The Wikipedia page about the camps was added in 2009. The breathless and dramatic tone by the reporter in this piece, like CBS News has unmasked something unknown, is more hype than substantial and disappointing for a show that is traditionally sober and journalistic. This weird style does a bit of disservice to the interview subjects and the academics and advocates having worked on this issue for decades.
Couldn’t agree more. The reporter had a weird, accusatory tone that was so unprofessional and obvious she was trying to get her perspective firmly in place
Also, in regard to newspapers during the Occupation: The Germans had their own, the Inselzeitung, which is shown in the segment. They also strictly controlled and censored all of the Islanders' publications, which is why German info appeared in them on a regular basis.
Went over to Alderney on a pre dig info gathering mission. There's a lot of info from the locals to be had. My professor at uni has dedicated her entire life to the concentration camp history. Alderney is still the most beautiful place I've ever been.
My grandpa told his wife they put Mexicans in the Frontlines in north Korea and never to let her kids join it's sad that we gonna have to fight it all over again
The anti British angle is so obvious. This is so skewed. I have talked to a few people who were on the Islands at the time. This type of documentary is so misleading. I suggest anyone interested in the occupation period study some wonderful books available. This was a full German occupation. The UK had no say in the matter of life on the islands under German occupation. Britain could not start arresting traitors as they would be sentenced to death, and they would say well you left us. Obviously if Britain had fought for the islands at that time it would have been nothing but death for the islanders. There is no cover up but for the secret especially that Britain was doing.
I completely agree. The Channel Islands was outside British control. I know there was some shame over the local police cooperating with the SS over the roundup of the handful of Jewish inhabitants and if I remember correctly 3 are known to have ended up dying in death camps but this has always been known about. If it is not discussed much it is down to embarrassment and not secrecy.
QPRTokyo - you write absolute nonsense, what you have written clearly sounded better in your own head. Fact - England left the Channel Islands to rot and fend for themselves
The surrender of the channel islands was arguably the correct strategy, distracting and diluting German forces onto assets they over-valued. Malta was of far greater importance, was strongly fought over and never fell into German hands.
exaclty the Channel islands where not defendable , and the caputre of which served no real benefit to the Germans. Just a small propaganda victory Malta as you point out the most crucial island, where the fate of the entire war stood, lose it, Germans gain the Med, N Africa, Suez, India and beyond
@@jewsaregenocidalhoresmaybe Palestine should give up their terrorist organizations. Then they can be free. It was the land of the Hebrews long before the Palestinian cause.
@@ErinAbouIt was the land of the Nabateans, who held it throughout the rise and fall of the most powerful empires the world has known - and their descendants hold it now.
@@kennyjustsaying8546 The Japansese, till this date, have never apologised for the many atrocities they committed during WWII. Not only they have never apoligised but also try to hide or blatantly deny everything, and the subject has been absent from most or all history textbooks in Japanese schools. The Germans at least have accpted what was done and have stated that by every possible means of communication in the world today.
I think in 1945 when the war was won, the British government would have rather busy with the entire world being bombed and destroyed, so not spending time to sit down with one family and talk about why their relative was sent to a gas chamber in a German concentration camp would have been a priority among millions of other priorities.
But... did't the family / friends... need, deserv and have the right too know... As in that movie... of that young lady reporter... in a movie... She is in Mamma Mia 2... Faling in love... whit one of this islands, life, story, a child and a farmer... i think. Dosent... she "the child" deserv too know of wath happend too her real mom and dad... And so one?
For goodness sake!! The niece does know what happened, that's why she just explained it to the presenter! There's even a feature film made about the story. None of this is secret. You obviously have absolutely no idea how to imagine what people went through. It was a world war. We all know how little the Americans were affected but everyone else had had long years of it. Every family had stories that were incredible, heroics, tragedy, great loss. After the war everyone was just desperate to rebuild and put it all behind them. Don't you think it tells you something how her subjects were the niece who told her what had happened and some Jewish researcher who is making very dramatic claims that no-one else supports and with absolutely no evidence??? Total non story. Tourists have been exploring the Nazis tunnels on those islands for years and years.
@@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6tshow little the Americans were affected? 😮 WOW, let it go lady. My grandfather and his 3 brothers all served in the war, my grandfather in the US Navy in the Pacific from before the war began until long after. Don’t you dare say our country didn’t suffer or support you. That’s B.S. FDR had to win over the public to justify sending troops to Europe. This nitpicking on all sides needs to stop.
@@GayaGreenThe Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, it’s a great story. I don’t think the British have anything to apologize for, these were actions by the Nazis.
Why not do a report on the NAZI'S who worked at NASA or the CIA? The Brits had more important things to worry about besides the Channel islands! Like fighting the NAZIS ALONE!!
I thought this was a new story. Not a surprise to anyone with a basic knowledge of WW2 Reporter needs to calm the tone down a bit too, it isn't an Omaze advert
As a resident of Alderney, one can assure the reader that contrary to the alleged "experts," this program depicts, there is a large amount of fiction, fantasy, and unsubstantiated heresay mixed in with the facts that were presented. Locals, besides being somewhat intrigued by this latest program and the Jewish revival, would prefer the subject be dropped
Will its true history bee rememberd... if it is / the quiz... will bee droppetd? And forgothen... not respected? Shud the World bee known and re aducated? Knowing the hole truth? Witch political side... wants too continue, live and spreed the lie?
@@jewsaregenocidalhores Agree totally! Palestine needs freeing from the illegal, disgusting, war criminals that is so called the government of Palestine, that's Hamas. Palestine needs to be free from Hamas occupation, and a new government needs to be formed that supports peaceful co-existence with Israel and the Palestinian people.
@@stephenspence1192 False : Britain, just as France, the USA, the USSR, Eastern and Western Germany all recycled SS and other Nazis into their diverse scientific, intelligence and military programs
The Germans were responsible not the British . The British were busy fighting and when the war had finished they were financially broken on the insistence of the USA wanting to be repaid for the financial help.
Well, we had to rebuild Europe! The American taxpayers spent decades on this rather than handing many domestic needs, such as healthcare and mental health. We’re all damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We Americans are tired of being guilted for every struggle the world has experienced since the 1600s, so this is a relatively small price we both have to experience during the current political climate. I don’t like it either.
Not British fault here cause they literally lost that island to the Germans. This is like blaming the Polish for Auschwitz. The British don't have a beautiful history, I should know being Indian. But this is some unnecessary slander
Sorry, but Dr. Jilly Carr seems to be the wrong person coordinating the review. Her responses in the documentary lacked empathy and statements like "according to Jewish law you cannot disturb the dead", "What are we going to do? Did up the entire island?" shows lack of intent in putting in the effort needed to get down to the truth. No Jew will say NO you cannot disturb the dead when at the moment you are trying to ascertain death of ten thousands. Ten thousands as opposed to only hundreds is a huge number. Do whatever is needed to get down to the bottom of this and find a different person to coordinate this effort.
They could geophys the area. But I think her point about many being buried at sea is more to the point. It is a very small island. I think the Nazis very quickly realised they'd run out of land if they buried them all and most would have been dumped at sea.
@@nlwilson4892 She is being hypocritical. Says she wants to look at the evidence before coming to a conclusion that there was a cover-up by the British but comes up with the theory of Nazis having dumped bodies into the Sea without any evidence. Come on, that is like you say a "good point" but there is no evidence. Also, you just need to send divers to see for evidence of bodies being dumped at sea.
Many many Germans who worked in Camps werent put on any trials across Europe. They hung most of the top brass - but top brass werent at Alderney. It was WW2 - people wanted to move on not dig it over endlessly. As children of WW2 soldiers we were sent to Germany a few times to spark friendships between the next generation. #LestWeForget 🇬🇧
The real big news was and still is, that Great Britain was heavily bombed during the war, the islands didn't suffer the same fate. This was boring and nauseating, anti British reporting
Everyone wants the British public to apologise to them for everything these days. The United Kingdom was fighting a War, you would not be here now if they hadn’t. Learn your true History with facts and reasons, decisions had to be made. Stop Blaming the United Kingdom,England especially for everything for your own pathetic pay package and glory.
This is all very sinister and anti-British. I was born in 1960 and there were still bombsites all over Portsmouth, where I live, and the whole UK, up to about 1979. We used to play on the bombsites when we were kids, not knowing anything about them really - but of course we knew a lot about WW2. My father spent a bit of time on Alderney during WW2. He joined up in 1939, aged 19. He's no longer with us sadly, he died in 1995, aged 75. So I can't ask him anything.
Which facts do you think they aren't interested in? The camp is a fact, the occupation of other islands and widespread collaboration is a fact, no prosecutions is a fact.
@@LutraLovegood Woke is now defined in the dictionary as “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice),” and identified as U.S. slang. However, it can also mean advocacy for personal and political gain. Usually thrown about by people with their heads up their backsides.
@@nhansen197 Or it means let's pick on people who have a view that differs from the current fad of the time. Let's ignore all the work on discrimination and human rights and place one- sided beliefs on everyone. If they disagree they are labelled racist or discriminated against. Knowing there are only two sexes can lead to violence, abuse and bullying by the woke.
After thinking about it, I'm a little embarrassed for 60 Minutes, as this reporting does come off as ignorant and high-and-mighty, as if the entire world didn't have massive problems to deal with immediately after the war. Not to mention that most of the most heinous things from this war were not widely known about until 5, 10, or 20+ years after. Almost the entirety of Europe had to rebuild. We've seen NOTHING like it since then on anywhere near the same scale since, which seems to have led to this ignorance among some people over time.
Soo. Clickbait title intended to give an anti-British slant. The islands were under German control. Oh, and there's a difference between a concentration camp and an extermination camp.
Prof Caroline Sturdy Colls has produced a programme based on her book Adolf Island it's available on PBS. The prisoners were Eastern European Civilians and POW's, not just Jewish. The Alderney Bailiwick (government) has refused even none intrusive survey such as ground penetrating radar, the island relies on Tourism so don't want this in the news, plus there's still a certain stigma of collaboration even though those that did are long gone. Eric Pickles was one of my local councillors and the guy is a disgusting excuse of a human being nor should he represent the UK as Envoy on Post-Holocaust Issues. As a Brit I find the anti-British bias cute.
The reason they're denying the radar (in Jersey anyway) is because if they find any historic artefacts in the ground (like the gold horse, and there is presumed to be more) then that land becomes historically protected and they wont be able to build on it. Just as pathetic I know.
??? no it’s not, each survivor has their own trauma and many people lost their entire families in the holocaust and others in war…can you try to think a bit more critically
@BluePrada So I guess you can say the same thing about PTSD as well than huh Dr Jung? I personally knew a WWII vet who came home and his best friend since childhood was buried in Italy. I had another associate who lost his best friend in Korea. Two really close Nam vets both have childhood friends who's names are on the black marble wall! Everyone's experience dealing with any neuroses is unique to itself but the science of psychaitry has developed treatments that offer collective treatment to all. My comment only stated my view on this type of trauma not only being neglected in diagnosis but in treatment as well. But I look forward to your assessment on it in the next mental health journal to be published!
The media should stop using the name "Nazis" when the words German or Axis are the correct terms. Nazis is just the name of a political party. In this case the narrator should have said, 'The Germans were meticulous record keepers'. What happened in WWII and who did it should not be forgotten or obscured.
The British government had a lot more important things to deal with than the affairs of the Channel Islands. A nearby island, Sark, was governed by medieval fiefdom until 2008, so this must be the most ignored part of the UK and its possessions.
It’s been kept quiet too long. It hasn’t gone away as some have obviously hoped. This is atrocious that this has been kept “hidden” away from the public for so many decades. This horrible situation should have been handled like the Nuremberg Trials where the truth was revealed. I hope for the sake of the prisoners and their families and for all mankind that the truth will be revealed as it should be to the world.
But right now, In America, Students who from the Third World occupied the universities and chanted anti-Semitic slogans- just can’t believe it would happen again… it just makes me so sad 😢
Instead of being grateful, trying to integrate, and learning to be better versions of themselves, they use the freedom and civilization given to them by these democratic countries as weapons to disrupt, destroy, persecute, and undermine the order and life of these beautiful countries.
And many of those who were appalled by the events in Charlottesville in 2017 support the same ideology of the tiki-torch carriers. I guess the left is only against certain kinds of antisemitism.
Sadly so, so true. Following what we know, or should know about what happened in WWII to the Jews, one would think that no-one would do what anti-Jewish (Or pro Hamas) protestors' are doing today.
@@stevetaylor8298 Selective media much? They aren't anti-Jew as you put, that would be really awkward for all the Jews protesting against Israel. What is happening in Gaza is an abomination to the memory of the holocaust. Never again wasn't supposed to be selective. Never again was meant for everyone being slaughtered.
Keep this research onward going, the victims must be remembered, and their cries heard. That dreadful time must stand as a warning for generations to come in the future. God Bless those people.
The British had their own concentration camps before, during and after the war. However mostly in Africa where no one would bat an eye, to put it simply.. They couldn’t have cared less.
They had concentration camps in India too, and probably in most others territory they had occupied. During the II world war there were concentration camps in every Nation that was inclined in the war. Actually I get the feeling that the British try to distract everyone from their own wrong doing.
In WW2 there were POW camps. There is a big difference. The only time in the 20th century that the British had concentration camps (no has chambers though), was during the Falkland Islands war against the Argentinians when Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister. 🏴🇬🇧
If you know anything about South African history, you know many more other concentration camps associated with the British and the Germans where not the perpetrators.
The South African camps were not death camps where people were deliberately murdered. They were prisoner of war camps where large amounts of people were concentrated, hence "Concentration Camp". That lots of people died in them is true for many different reasons but they were not places for deliberate extermination. Andersonville at Fort Sumter in the USA was a notorious camp where 13000 Union prisoners of war died due to disease and malnutrition but once again it was not a deliberate policy of Genocide. These things sadly happen during wars I am afraid.
The journalist who like to lecture everyone on morality are ALWAYS your first collaborators. It is very easy after 80 years to tell people who had no power what they should and should not have done. Bully for these modern day armchair "heroes".
A 60 Min. story about nothing. I'm in the southern hemisphere and we know about the Chanel island occupation and camps. Keep trying 60 Min. and maybe find a story that is relevant.
I served f my country for 20 years. I’m proud to say that. But my studies of conflict trough out the ages taught me that ‘ concentration camps ‘ were started by the British in India. Or were my teachers lying to me ?
Hitler got the idea from the Andersonville camp in America, during the Civil War ending in 1864. The photographs of those captives found are on par with Dachau, etc.
They may have had their first use in India, but they became a big world-wide news deal during the Boer Wars. It was the first time Europeans had been imprisoned under horrendous conditions by other Europeans. Lack of supplies and insufficient medical care lead to the deaths of a large number of women and children.
Earlier. British concentration camps in the Boer War. "Concentration" and deadly "work camps" have exited throughout history. The Terra Cotta soldiers in the PRC were carved by prisoners kept for years.
@@shelbynamels7948 Well the British cut the rations of wives and children of Boer leaders to half and starved them to death. It wasn't just about lack of supplies, it was a deliberate act.
I'm not a denier, but you can't have it both ways. If the Germans were such meticulous record keepers, they would have had a record of prisoners that arrived. Subtract from that figure, the amount that were there on liberation will give you a pretty good idea of how many died.
На Кавказе из-за суровой зимы 1916-1917 годов активных боевых действий не велось. Чтобы не нести лишних потерь от морозов и болезней, генерал Юденич оставил на достигнутых рубежах лишь боевое охранение, а главные силы разместил в долинах по населённым пунктам. В начале марта 1-й Кавказский кавкорпус генерала Баратова разгромил персидскую группировку турок и, захватив в Персии важный узел дорог Синнах и город Керманшах, двинулся на юго-запад к Евфрату навстречу англичанам. В середине марта части 1-й Кавказской казачьей дивизии Раддаца и 3-й Кубанской дивизии, преодолев более 400 км, соединились с союзниками у Кизыл Рабата в Ираке. Таким образом, Турция потеряла Месопотамию. В данном случае выход к черному морю и все
Не возобновились боевые действия на Кавказском фронте и после Февральской революции, а после заключения правительством РСФСР в декабре 1917 года перемирия с Центральными державами прекратились окончательно. И точка для меня и моих близких
No they are not possessions they are Crown Dependencies. They are allied to Britain by choice as is The Isle Of Man which has its own parliament , The Tyndall. Interestingly both the Channel Islands and The Isle Of Man were never in The European Union choosing to stay outside of it when the UK entered it in 1973.
Get over it America, god your anti British attitude is just getting so old..totally unjustified, and im not from the UK, And people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones !
We can all judge now but what would we do in such circumstances? Who would resist and who would print the papers with their bs propaganda just to stay alive? Let's not forget how a mistake from one person could have jeopardised everyone in his family. But this evil should be in the open for us to see and all the details need to be available. That's the dirty part.
I am sure if Rudolf Hess did not commit suicide so they say he would have been freed and sung like a bird about the British government and all the Royals. Thing would have been said and done.
The big point with war criminals was that. if they where killd during the war it was exeptet by there wife and childeren and country. If they wher kiled after the war it was not exeptet. The children would have been a kind of lost boys. And there where to many of them in germany. And for this people ther was always a fear that they could been arested and shoot by ther victims. And if the war criminals were shot there would probely not a good investication. For the coverup. Germany a land of war criminals. Is not the image Germany wanted.
At first I thought this was about the youth camps like the dozens that the Bund ran in U.S. before the war. But it's actually more akin to the Japanese internment camps set up by U.S. in 1942.
The biggest secret they wanted to cover up, was the large number of British women who fraternized with German soldiers. Also, trials of Germans would have shown the extent of British collaboration.
I think this is very much it. They couldn't allow the British public to know that "decent" British people collaborated with the Nazis. They could handle the odd one like Lord Haugh Haugh, and the occasional other person, but not people in any numbers. They also made sure the large number of British Nazis they interned were kept under the radar.
Am I right in thinking there is no memorial to the victims who were buried at the site shown on the thumbnail ? If so thats appalling. I'm not sure how much it muddies the waters but its important to remember that the Channel Islands, like the Isle of Man are a British Protectorate, not part of the United Kingdom. Clearly, Britain had to fight the war tactically & any liberation of the islands would not be possible until after D-Day. But the question remains, was there any cover up, & if so why & by whom ?
You will make a cover story about an 80-year-old concentration camp, but you will not speak about an ongoing Genocide in Gaza, in Sudan, in Congo! What is the point of these history lessons if you don't seem interested in covering crimes against humanity happening right now?!
Jewish law doesn't say that. They've been reentering tombs as a regular practice for thousands of years to collect bones to place in ossuaries or sarcophagi.
Yeah. She is just exaggerating. Does not want to do the job that is expected of her. She is not serious and needs to be replaced.
@@ashridhar ok....
NOBODY CARES. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@@ashridhar That is such bs nonsense dude. Is SHE expected to handle the job? No. Does anything you said make sense or is it at least accurate? No. Even just after WW2, many Jewish communities wished they could exhume hundreds or thousands of bodies in mass graves to reenter them, discover the end of lost relatives, and even to find Hitler, as there is a very real and likely chance that his actual body is still in a grave with a Jew somewhere outside of Berlin, but none of this could be done because they, themselves, refused to do it out of principle with their religion. You do not make the facts.
@@Jordan-rb28you are nonsense. The radical left is nonsense. I used to like 60 minutes but every episode is now politically motivated for the 2024 election and globalism.
The Germans kept great records…even of their crimes. Of course, they didn’t necessarily think of them as crimes.
The niece is 10 times smarter than the reporter. Such is the state of MSM “journalism” today.
I find the reporter's accusatory tone highly offensive. Looking back through history requires the humility of realizing we weren't there, and should not judge. The British government and Channel Islands officials all faced difficult, even agonizing decisions all throughout the war. This subject should be handled with dignity and respect. I hope any updates are assigned to a reporter who understands this. Dr. Gilly Carr, and the Islanders interviewed, gave it the gravitas it deserves.
Yes there was more than a little stirring going on here. Typical of contemporary tv journalism.
@@stephenspence1192lotta Yewish people work at 60 minutes.
NOBODY CARES. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
oh please why doesnt she look at the isolationist way the USA left Britain to go it alone until 1941 and denied Jews visas to leave Europe.
@@DebraGruber-hk7xl Because this is about a very specific place and time. In a "big picture" review of the war, the U.S. should certainly be included.
At the end of the war, the British government was presiding over a ruined and bankrupt country. They had a monumental task to set about recovering, converting the economy and industry back to peacetime usefulness, rebuilding bombed cities and providing for the demobilised military personnel. At the same time, they were involved in administering parts of Germany, dealing with refugees and supporting empire possessions abandoned by the retreating Japanese in the car east.
Against that background, it is hardly surprising that little attention was given to possible German atrocities against forced labourers and European POW's in the Channel Islands. It would have seemed barely a drop compared to the millions murdered in Europe.
And while Germany was being rebuilt... !
The British government also sent food and supplies to the Channel Islanders who were quite literally starving at the war's end, despite having very little to spare. Your comment provides great perspective.
@@theafaith23 I didn't know that. Thank you.
Please post actual facts.
@@gerrylewis5281 ?? What here isn't factual?
To be clear, there are several documentaries produced a while ago -some available here on RUclips - about Lager Sylt and the other Alderney camps, plus quite a bit of literature. The Wikipedia page about the camps was added in 2009. The breathless and dramatic tone by the reporter in this piece, like CBS News has unmasked something unknown, is more hype than substantial and disappointing for a show that is traditionally sober and journalistic. This weird style does a bit of disservice to the interview subjects and the academics and advocates having worked on this issue for decades.
Thank you.
Couldn’t agree more. The reporter had a weird, accusatory tone that was so unprofessional and obvious she was trying to get her perspective firmly in place
And why do you think that is?
It seems like the Australian 60 Minutes, not the American.
@@RealRonaldThumpDo you think the big bad wolf was bad?
Also, in regard to newspapers during the Occupation: The Germans had their own, the Inselzeitung, which is shown in the segment. They also strictly controlled and censored all of the Islanders' publications, which is why German info appeared in them on a regular basis.
thanks for sharing the extra info but why do you type like this ?
@@carlaustin977Yes . WHY ! 😂
@@carlaustin977 Doesn't look like that on my screen. Definitely not intentional! Some kind of glitch maybe :-(
Went over to Alderney on a pre dig info gathering mission. There's a lot of info from the locals to be had. My professor at uni has dedicated her entire life to the concentration camp history. Alderney is still the most beautiful place I've ever been.
Anyone really familiar with WW2 history wouldn't be surprised one bit by this
NOBODY CARES. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
My grandpa told his wife they put Mexicans in the Frontlines in north Korea and never to let her kids join it's sad that we gonna have to fight it all over again
absolutely, we ve known about it for years
And it goes on and on😢
Well you're clearly not very familiar, considering this video is completely biased and missing a lot of information.
Gary Font becoming teary iver😢what his father went through is generational scaring. No one ever talks about. that
The anti British angle is so obvious. This is so skewed. I have talked to a few people who were on the Islands at the time. This type of documentary is so misleading. I suggest anyone interested in the occupation period study some wonderful books available. This was a full German occupation. The UK had no say in the matter of life on the islands under German occupation. Britain could not start arresting traitors as they would be sentenced to death, and they would say well you left us. Obviously if Britain had fought for the islands at that time it would have been nothing but death for the islanders. There is no cover up but for the secret especially that Britain was doing.
can you please rewrite the last sentence (I didn't understand it and want to).
I completely agree. The Channel Islands was outside British control. I know there was some shame over the local police cooperating with the SS over the roundup of the handful of Jewish inhabitants and if I remember correctly 3 are known to have ended up dying in death camps but this has always been known about. If it is not discussed much it is down to embarrassment and not secrecy.
It’s becoming absurd, there will be push back if we continue to allow Yt to revise our own history. 📚☘️
QPRTokyo - you write absolute nonsense, what you have written clearly sounded better in your own head. Fact - England left the Channel Islands to rot and fend for themselves
The British was probably involved, but cover there track to commit Genocide in the COVID period NOW.
The surrender of the channel islands was arguably the correct strategy, distracting and diluting German forces onto assets they over-valued.
Malta was of far greater importance, was strongly fought over and never fell into German hands.
exaclty the Channel islands where not defendable , and the caputre of which served no real benefit to the Germans. Just a small propaganda victory
Malta as you point out the most crucial island, where the fate of the entire war stood, lose it, Germans gain the Med, N Africa, Suez, India and beyond
@@davidrenton CORRECT !, - 100 Marks from an Old F - - -.
Nobody cares. Free palestine🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@@jewsaregenocidalhoresmaybe Palestine should give up their terrorist organizations. Then they can be free. It was the land of the Hebrews long before the Palestinian cause.
@@ErinAbouIt was the land of the Nabateans, who held it throughout the rise and fall of the most powerful empires the world has known - and their descendants hold it now.
There is a clear anti-British tone in the reporting, and a good deal of history ignorance to boot.
So The British needs to apologise for the crime than , let’s forget the German 😂 unbelievable
@@kennyjustsaying8546 The Japansese, till this date, have never apologised for the many atrocities they committed during WWII. Not only they have never apoligised but also try to hide or blatantly deny everything, and the subject has been absent from most or all history textbooks in Japanese schools.
The Germans at least have accpted what was done and have stated that by every possible means of communication in the world today.
I think in 1945 when the war was won, the British government would have rather busy with the entire world being bombed and destroyed, so not spending time to sit down with one family and talk about why their relative was sent to a gas chamber in a German concentration camp would have been a priority among millions of other priorities.
NOBODY CARES. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
But... did't the family / friends... need, deserv and have the right too know...
As in that movie... of that young lady reporter... in a movie...
She is in Mamma Mia 2...
Faling in love... whit one of this islands, life, story, a child and a farmer... i think.
Dosent... she "the child" deserv too know of wath happend too her real mom and dad...
And so one?
For goodness sake!! The niece does know what happened, that's why she just explained it to the presenter! There's even a feature film made about the story. None of this is secret. You obviously have absolutely no idea how to imagine what people went through. It was a world war. We all know how little the Americans were affected but everyone else had had long years of it. Every family had stories that were incredible, heroics, tragedy, great loss. After the war everyone was just desperate to rebuild and put it all behind them. Don't you think it tells you something how her subjects were the niece who told her what had happened and some Jewish researcher who is making very dramatic claims that no-one else supports and with absolutely no evidence??? Total non story. Tourists have been exploring the Nazis tunnels on those islands for years and years.
@@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6tshow little the Americans were affected? 😮 WOW, let it go lady. My grandfather and his 3 brothers all served in the war, my grandfather in the US Navy in the Pacific from before the war began until long after. Don’t you dare say our country didn’t suffer or support you. That’s B.S. FDR had to win over the public to justify sending troops to Europe. This nitpicking on all sides needs to stop.
@@GayaGreenThe Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, it’s a great story. I don’t think the British have anything to apologize for, these were actions by the Nazis.
This area was so tiny.... the UK was busy re-building the country that had been bombed to pieces.
You say things as if its the British fault. They were invaded and occupied by the nazis. This was nothing to do with britain or its allies.
Why not do a report on the NAZI'S who worked at NASA or the CIA? The Brits had more important things to worry about besides the Channel islands! Like fighting the NAZIS ALONE!!
There have been plenty of reports in the US on former Nazis who worked for NASA and other agencies. We all know about that.
I thought this was a new story. Not a surprise to anyone with a basic knowledge of WW2
Reporter needs to calm the tone down a bit too, it isn't an Omaze advert
Something about this was referenced in a book I read. Like most nonfiction books about the war, the focus was on battles and legitimate combatants.
NOBODY CARES. FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
It wasnt British when the camps were built.
Looks like a good setting for an episode of "Foyle's War" if Michael Kitchen is up for it.
As a resident of Alderney, one can assure the reader that contrary to the alleged "experts," this program depicts, there is a large amount of fiction, fantasy, and unsubstantiated heresay mixed in with the facts that were presented. Locals, besides being somewhat intrigued by this latest program and the Jewish revival, would prefer the subject be dropped
Nobody cares. Free palestine🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@nurlagrande
"palestine" is a geographical area within the 🇮🇱 state of Israel 🇮🇱 There's nothing to "free" !
Will its true history bee rememberd... if it is / the quiz... will bee droppetd?
And forgothen... not respected?
Shud the World bee known and re aducated?
Knowing the hole truth?
Witch political side... wants too continue, live and spreed the lie?
Let's not forget, over 30,000 Palestinian men, women and children murdered in the concentration camp in Gaza.
@@jewsaregenocidalhores Agree totally! Palestine needs freeing from the illegal, disgusting, war criminals that is so called the government of Palestine, that's Hamas. Palestine needs to be free from Hamas occupation, and a new government needs to be formed that supports peaceful co-existence with Israel and the Palestinian people.
no convictions ? maybe they were rocket engineers......
Maybe even rocket surgeons.
Yep NASA 💩 doesn't smell of roses
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Britain did not have any of those. They went to America under Operation Paperclip.
@@stephenspence1192 False : Britain, just as France, the USA, the USSR, Eastern and Western Germany all recycled SS and other Nazis into their diverse scientific, intelligence and military programs
The Germans were responsible not the British . The British were busy fighting and when the war had finished they were financially broken on the insistence of the USA wanting to be repaid for the financial help.
Well, we had to rebuild Europe! The American taxpayers spent decades on this rather than handing many domestic needs, such as healthcare and mental health. We’re all damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We Americans are tired of being guilted for every struggle the world has experienced since the 1600s, so this is a relatively small price we both have to experience during the current political climate. I don’t like it either.
@@ErinAbou the point was we paid our debts and i don’t have anything against Americans as I have family that are Americans
Not British fault here cause they literally lost that island to the Germans. This is like blaming the Polish for Auschwitz. The British don't have a beautiful history, I should know being Indian. But this is some unnecessary slander
Sorry, but Dr. Jilly Carr seems to be the wrong person coordinating the review. Her responses in the documentary lacked empathy and statements like "according to Jewish law you cannot disturb the dead", "What are we going to do? Did up the entire island?" shows lack of intent in putting in the effort needed to get down to the truth. No Jew will say NO you cannot disturb the dead when at the moment you are trying to ascertain death of ten thousands. Ten thousands as opposed to only hundreds is a huge number. Do whatever is needed to get down to the bottom of this and find a different person to coordinate this effort.
They could geophys the area. But I think her point about many being buried at sea is more to the point. It is a very small island. I think the Nazis very quickly realised they'd run out of land if they buried them all and most would have been dumped at sea.
@@nlwilson4892 She is being hypocritical. Says she wants to look at the evidence before coming to a conclusion that there was a cover-up by the British but comes up with the theory of Nazis having dumped bodies into the Sea without any evidence. Come on, that is like you say a "good point" but there is no evidence. Also, you just need to send divers to see for evidence of bodies being dumped at sea.
Many many Germans who worked in Camps werent put on any trials across Europe. They hung most of the top brass - but top brass werent at Alderney. It was WW2 - people wanted to move on not dig it over endlessly. As children of WW2 soldiers we were sent to Germany a few times to spark friendships between the next generation. #LestWeForget 🇬🇧
The real big news was and still is, that Great Britain was heavily bombed during the war, the islands didn't suffer the same fate. This was boring and nauseating, anti British reporting
Everyone wants the British public to apologise to them for everything these days.
The United Kingdom was fighting a War, you would not be here now if they hadn’t.
Learn your true History with facts and reasons, decisions had to be made.
Stop Blaming the United Kingdom,England especially for everything for your own pathetic pay package and glory.
This is all very sinister and anti-British. I was born in 1960 and there were still bombsites all over Portsmouth, where I live, and the whole UK, up to about 1979. We used to play on the bombsites when we were kids, not knowing anything about them really - but of course we knew a lot about WW2.
My father spent a bit of time on Alderney during WW2. He joined up in 1939, aged 19. He's no longer with us sadly, he died in 1995, aged 75. So I can't ask him anything.
Me thinks I smell a woke anti British reporter who is not interested in the facts .
Which facts do you think they aren't interested in? The camp is a fact, the occupation of other islands and widespread collaboration is a fact, no prosecutions is a fact.
What does woke mean?
@@LutraLovegood Woke is now defined in the dictionary as “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice),” and identified as U.S. slang. However, it can also mean advocacy for personal and political gain. Usually thrown about by people with their heads up their backsides.
You can smell woke in everything if you put your mind to it.
@@nhansen197 Or it means let's pick on people who have a view that differs from the current fad of the time. Let's ignore all the work on discrimination and human rights and place one- sided beliefs on everyone. If they disagree they are labelled racist or discriminated against. Knowing there are only two sexes can lead to violence, abuse and bullying by the woke.
After thinking about it, I'm a little embarrassed for 60 Minutes, as this reporting does come off as ignorant and high-and-mighty, as if the entire world didn't have massive problems to deal with immediately after the war. Not to mention that most of the most heinous things from this war were not widely known about until 5, 10, or 20+ years after. Almost the entirety of Europe had to rebuild. We've seen NOTHING like it since then on anywhere near the same scale since, which seems to have led to this ignorance among some people over time.
Soo.
Clickbait title intended to give an anti-British slant.
The islands were under German control.
Oh, and there's a difference between a concentration camp and an extermination camp.
Prof Caroline Sturdy Colls has produced a programme based on her book Adolf Island it's available on PBS. The prisoners were Eastern European Civilians and POW's, not just Jewish.
The Alderney Bailiwick (government) has refused even none intrusive survey such as ground penetrating radar, the island relies on Tourism so don't want this in the news, plus there's still a certain stigma of collaboration even though those that did are long gone.
Eric Pickles was one of my local councillors and the guy is a disgusting excuse of a human being nor should he represent the UK as Envoy on Post-Holocaust Issues. As a Brit I find the anti-British bias cute.
(Love the last sentence).
The reason they're denying the radar (in Jersey anyway) is because if they find any historic artefacts in the ground (like the gold horse, and there is presumed to be more) then that land becomes historically protected and they wont be able to build on it. Just as pathetic I know.
It must be stressed that whilst on British soil, the Chanel Islands were in fact occupied and controlled by the Germans.
Survivors guilt is one of the least studied and treated neurosis cause by the unimaginable experiences of being a victim of a World War.
??? no it’s not, each survivor has their own trauma and many people lost their entire families in the holocaust and others in war…can you try to think a bit more critically
@BluePrada So I guess you can say the same thing about PTSD as well than huh Dr Jung? I personally knew a WWII vet who came home and his best friend since childhood was buried in Italy. I had another associate who lost his best friend in Korea. Two really close Nam vets both have childhood friends who's names are on the black marble wall! Everyone's experience dealing with any neuroses is unique to itself but the science of psychaitry has developed treatments that offer collective treatment to all. My comment only stated my view on this type of trauma not only being neglected in diagnosis but in treatment as well. But I look forward to your assessment on it in the next mental health journal to be published!
Next you'll be blaming the Pole's for Alchwitze. Biased
It's spelled Auschwitz.
I'm surprised Sparty didn't talk about this camp in any of his War Against Humanity episodes on the WWII channel.
The media should stop using the name "Nazis" when the words German or Axis are the correct terms. Nazis is just the name of a political party. In this case the narrator should have said, 'The Germans were meticulous record keepers'. What happened in WWII and who did it should not be forgotten or obscured.
The British government had a lot more important things to deal with than the affairs of the Channel Islands. A nearby island, Sark, was governed by medieval fiefdom until 2008, so this must be the most ignored part of the UK and its possessions.
Britain, that's the little Muslim country next to Ireland?
Ireland's also going in that direction.
concentration camp ? these journalists must go back to school before using inadequate words
Like 4 Jews died here so it’s important as for the other 9,996 non Jews who died here, who cares
It’s been kept quiet too long. It hasn’t gone away as some have obviously hoped. This is atrocious that this has been kept “hidden” away from the public for so many decades. This horrible situation should have been handled like the Nuremberg Trials where the truth was revealed. I hope for the sake of the prisoners and their families and for all mankind that the truth will be revealed as it should be to the world.
But right now, In America, Students who from the Third World occupied the universities and chanted anti-Semitic slogans- just can’t believe it would happen again… it just makes me so sad 😢
Instead of being grateful, trying to integrate, and learning to be better versions of themselves, they use the freedom and civilization given to them by these democratic countries as weapons to disrupt, destroy, persecute, and undermine the order and life of these beautiful countries.
And many of those who were appalled by the events in Charlottesville in 2017 support the same ideology of the tiki-torch carriers.
I guess the left is only against certain kinds of antisemitism.
It’s happening right in front of us right now
Sadly so, so true. Following what we know, or should know about what happened in WWII to the Jews, one would think that no-one would do what anti-Jewish (Or pro Hamas) protestors' are doing today.
@@stevetaylor8298 Selective media much? They aren't anti-Jew as you put, that would be really awkward for all the Jews protesting against Israel. What is happening in Gaza is an abomination to the memory of the holocaust. Never again wasn't supposed to be selective. Never again was meant for everyone being slaughtered.
Keep this research onward going, the victims must be remembered, and their cries heard. That dreadful time must stand as a warning for generations to come in the future. God Bless those people.
The British had their own concentration camps before, during and after the war. However mostly in Africa where no one would bat an eye, to put it simply.. They couldn’t have cared less.
Yes they put the Afrikaners in concentration camps and I wonder how many people know that
They had concentration camps in India too, and probably in most others territory they had occupied.
During the II world war there were concentration camps in every Nation that was inclined in the war.
Actually I get the feeling that the British try to distract everyone from their own wrong doing.
In WW2 there were POW camps. There is a big difference. The only time in the 20th century that the British had concentration camps (no has chambers though), was during the Falkland Islands war against the Argentinians when Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister. 🏴🇬🇧
@@BlakeJakes245 the British had concentration camps before WW2 in South Africa. Many women and children died in those camps.
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Not exactly.
They imprisoned just normal people, because they were german, Italian, japanese...
I never knew about the camp, and I'm born and bred ,in England
If you know anything about South African history, you know many more other concentration camps associated with the British and the Germans where not the perpetrators.
The South African camps were not death camps where people were deliberately murdered. They were prisoner of war camps where large amounts of people were concentrated,
hence "Concentration Camp". That lots of people died in them is true for many different reasons but they were not places for deliberate extermination.
Andersonville at Fort Sumter in the USA was a notorious camp where 13000 Union prisoners of war died due to disease and malnutrition but once again it was not a deliberate policy of Genocide. These things sadly happen during wars I am afraid.
The journalist who like to lecture everyone on morality are ALWAYS your first collaborators. It is very easy after 80 years to tell people who had no power what they should and should not have done. Bully for these modern day armchair "heroes".
Please learn to properly pronounce Auschwitz and Buchenwald. W is pronounced as a v in German
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Excuse me
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We are listening to ENGLISH here
not
GERMAN
@@jesus.christis.lord.foreve899 That may be, but the names are German not English
@@jesus.christis.lord.foreve899 😊Pretty certain Jesus can speak more than 1 language. He speak a bit of Hebrew I bet
@@jesus.christis.lord.foreve899 Uh... these are GERMAN names, NOT English. Let's make an effort to not butcher other languages.
Isnt the definition of a concentration camp. Having a concentration of a certain type of people? Still a terrible war prison camp
Students of history know this
I'd hope so, what with them being interested in history and all.
This documentary is like a tabloid piece by a newspaper saying by uncle came from Mars.
A 60 Min. story about nothing. I'm in the southern hemisphere and we know about the Chanel island occupation and camps. Keep trying 60 Min. and maybe find a story that is relevant.
RUSH bassist,lead vocalist parents met and fell in love at Aushwitch
Research is a good thing. Reporters are paid to be hysterical and dramatic. THAT's annoying. It makes them not believed.
reporter is ignorant of WWII history and the end of the war
Extraordinary times required extraordinary measures. War is Hell and that is that. Nobody survives whole.
I served f my country for 20 years. I’m proud to say that.
But my studies of conflict trough out the ages taught me that ‘ concentration camps ‘ were started by the British in India.
Or were my teachers lying to me ?
Hitler got the idea from the Andersonville camp in America, during the Civil War ending in 1864. The photographs of those captives found are on par with Dachau, etc.
thankfully our indian pm has cut the time until british people becoming an ethnic minority in britain by at least 5 years, should be around 2040 now
They may have had their first use in India, but they became a big world-wide news deal during the Boer Wars. It was the first time Europeans had been imprisoned under horrendous conditions by other Europeans.
Lack of supplies and insufficient medical care lead to the deaths of a large number of women and children.
Earlier. British concentration camps in the Boer War. "Concentration" and deadly "work camps" have exited throughout history. The Terra Cotta soldiers in the PRC were carved by prisoners kept for years.
@@shelbynamels7948 Well the British cut the rations of wives and children of Boer leaders to half and starved them to death. It wasn't just about lack of supplies, it was a deliberate act.
I'm not a denier, but you can't have it both ways. If the Germans were such meticulous record keepers, they would have had a record of prisoners that arrived. Subtract from that figure, the amount that were there on liberation will give you a pretty good idea of how many died.
It's ironic the Allies in autumn 1944 tried to bomb some camps & warned the Germans... But never thought to liberate those islands.
На Кавказе из-за суровой зимы 1916-1917 годов активных боевых действий не велось. Чтобы не нести лишних потерь от морозов и болезней, генерал Юденич оставил на достигнутых рубежах лишь боевое охранение, а главные силы разместил в долинах по населённым пунктам. В начале марта 1-й Кавказский кавкорпус генерала Баратова разгромил персидскую группировку турок и, захватив в Персии важный узел дорог Синнах и город Керманшах, двинулся на юго-запад к Евфрату навстречу англичанам. В середине марта части 1-й Кавказской казачьей дивизии Раддаца и 3-й Кубанской дивизии, преодолев более 400 км, соединились с союзниками у Кизыл Рабата в Ираке. Таким образом, Турция потеряла Месопотамию. В данном случае выход к черному морю и все
Не возобновились боевые действия на Кавказском фронте и после Февральской революции, а после заключения правительством РСФСР в декабре 1917 года перемирия с Центральными державами прекратились окончательно. И точка для меня и моих близких
Interesting, thank you from London
eventually everyone will be forgotten, that doesn't mean that people didn't live or had lives..
Did this one have a concert hall and a swimming pool too? 😂
Those were for the red cross inspections so they look normal to world n then used by officers to swim
Unsubscribe they are
Only choosers they wont
Make anything about
The genoside in Gaza
History is going to repeat itself,on a Global scale!
It's happening in China now
Now, in U.S, Students from the Third World occupied the universities and chanting anti-Semitic slogans.
Click Bait journalism. This historically has been well known for decades. Another POC 60 minutes nothing burger.
Mr pickles needs to go on a diet 😂
I have often wondered about what happened to the people who stayed.
The Channel Islands are not Britain, they are British possessions.
No they are not possessions they are Crown Dependencies. They are allied to Britain by choice as is The Isle Of Man which has its own parliament , The Tyndall.
Interestingly both the Channel Islands and The Isle Of Man were never in The European Union choosing to stay outside of it when the UK entered it in 1973.
🎉very interesting 🎉requires more investigation 🔎 great segment.
I note this is posted three days ago.
Meanwhile it’s 7 months or so now of the genocide in Gaza, summary executions and starvation to boot.
Get over it America, god your anti British attitude is just getting so old..totally unjustified, and im not from the UK, And people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones !
We can all judge now but what would we do in such circumstances? Who would resist and who would print the papers with their bs propaganda just to stay alive? Let's not forget how a mistake from one person could have jeopardised everyone in his family. But this evil should be in the open for us to see and all the details need to be available. That's the dirty part.
Sir Pickles?! Really? Literally lol!
I’m surprised they haven’t made him Lord Pickles of Onion.
I just Googled it ... He IS an ACTUAL member of British parliament. So next time you want to make rude comments, get your facts straight first.
Lots of references here to the 'Briddish'. Do they come from 'Briddain'?
They had to be prosecuted for following orders, making them open to death.
I am sure if Rudolf Hess did not commit suicide so they say he would have been freed and sung like a bird about the British government and all the Royals. Thing would have been said and done.
The big point with war criminals was that. if they where killd during the war it was exeptet by there wife and childeren and country. If they wher kiled after the war it was not exeptet. The children would have been a kind of lost boys. And there where to many of them in germany. And for this people ther was always a fear that they could been arested and shoot by ther victims. And if the war criminals were shot there would probely not a good investication. For the coverup. Germany a land of war criminals. Is not the image Germany wanted.
At first I thought this was about the youth camps like the dozens that the Bund ran in U.S. before the war. But it's actually more akin to the Japanese internment camps set up by U.S. in 1942.
The internment camps in the USA were holiday camps compared to Japanese camps for aliens.
@@QPRTokyo Too true.
The US weren't working people to death.
The biggest secret they wanted to cover up, was the large number of British women who fraternized with German soldiers. Also, trials of Germans would have shown the extent of British collaboration.
I think this is very much it. They couldn't allow the British public to know that "decent" British people collaborated with the Nazis. They could handle the odd one like Lord Haugh Haugh, and the occasional other person, but not people in any numbers. They also made sure the large number of British Nazis they interned were kept under the radar.
Am I right in thinking there is no memorial to the victims who were buried at the site shown on the thumbnail ? If so thats appalling. I'm not sure how much it muddies the waters but its important to remember that the Channel Islands, like the Isle of Man are a British Protectorate, not part of the United Kingdom. Clearly, Britain had to fight the war tactically & any liberation of the islands would not be possible until after D-Day. But the question remains, was there any cover up, & if so why & by whom ?
Nothing new.
Exactly. Check out the novel 'Lying with the Enemy".
What on earth these women have the idea of British cover up?
Gaza
THERE WAS A COVER UP, I JUST SAID IT *
Most of them where Slavic
What is this for?
You will make a cover story about an 80-year-old concentration camp, but you will not speak about an ongoing Genocide in Gaza, in Sudan, in Congo! What is the point of these history lessons if you don't seem interested in covering crimes against humanity happening right now?!
Gaza 😅
The Arab cries out, the Jew hit me back
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There is no genocide in Gaza.
What a cool cultural site
Pickles looks well lunched!
I was going to watch this but I can’t stand the American woke hostess
I wish everyone knew what these people went through it should be a law to learn about it
Time Team did a Show about the Islands. and interview islanders about same.
They weren't Nazis, they were Democrats😂
THE EAGLE, HAS LANDED
Whilst Pickles was MP for Brentwood and Ongar all he was ever worried about was Dead Jews , he didn’t give a.shit about his constituents.
load of rubbish
Research The Anglo-Boer War and what the British did in South Africa!
Thanks all important information ℹ️
I want to believe this story but you exaggerate and fib too much for me to believe it. Either way, interesting story!
So true