A temple is not a cinema theater and it certainly not a secular place . By definition it is a religious place . So respect the sentiments of the culture . there is a deference between discrimination and diversity. If so called activists do not understand the simple logic shame on them.
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited. Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice. What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences. Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies. If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening. Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences. Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond. We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences. who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind. Atleast it did to me. Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple. If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible. Thank you 😊 ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
@@veracity5412 that's the wish of the owner or the manager of the Temple to allow who ever they want. Taking it as Enequality is your Desperacy to frame us discriminates
@@nandan1259 who the hell is the owner to decide this? The owner can decide whatever he or she wants to in the name of religion and create superstitions. The owner is a human being like us capable of committing mistakes, not some god. If you are supporting this belief and discrimination then you are nothing but a regressive conservative backward person who does not want to progress and question your faith. At times, we need to put down our faiths and move on and evolve instead of getting stuck and saying,"it's our culture, religion or respect beliefs" Keep your facts and logic first and then religious beliefs second. You can call me a pseudo feminist or pseudo liberal or a pseudo secular or intellectual person if you wish to. I rest my case here🙏
@@veracity5412 The owner is the owner of the Temple. He decided not to allow Women inside. If he had decided not to allow men, we at the first wouldn't care and it's his property, he's settings rules of the property that's his, he's not deciding to spread hate or do Enequality. If you don't like the rules fine. Don't debate about it in the name of religion. It's like saying if I'm not allowed allowed in the Women's rest room I'm being discriminated and that's Enequality. What nonsense is that 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. You know you won't have much to say, other than just calling us Discriminates.
Tantrik temples are not mere tourist places. People go there with a sense of belief. Whats the point of going into a temple when you dont have the courtesy to respect its traditions? We just need to question ourselves if we want to prove a point or if we really want to pray If you are a believer and the intent is to pray then you should follow the tradition. It is as simple as that.
Behind every tradition there will be some reason As an indian we need to respect our tradition and culture If any rape happened why you are not taking to Supreme Court that is called equality not the culture not the way of dressing
Why women are not allowed in Sabarimala ?? Panthalam place where lord Ayyappa was born which now turned temple= women are allowed Achankovil: he's in a saint form = women are allowed Aryankavu : he's in a teenager form = women are allowed Sabarimala : he is in a nitya brahmachari vratha = women are not allowed ... As simple as that.... 😒
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited. Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice. What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences. Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies. If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening. Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences. Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond. We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences. who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind. Atleast it did to me. Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple. If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible. Thank you 😊 ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
@@veracity5412 also why's there a separate section..why can't you pray in a same section....in temples we don't do that, either they don't allow women or if they do we have a same section .
It is good that this video is out on RUclips this shows that one needs to see even deeper down before some questions on certain topic. For me personally it was a big eye opener as to how there's a big big difference between discrimination and the sense of significance of the place.
He explained it so well and clear in the first go itself even then she kept the issue dragging too long...pity on poor interviewer that she couldn't create controversy
Well, I won't go that far. She was pretty respectful throughout her questions except at the end, where she blatantly ridiculed all men. Somehow, that got overlooked by people in the comment section.
real reason is the high amount of energy is emitted in the temples due to their high altitude and geographical location, it affects the hormones, menstruation cycles of women , this is why they arent allowed, it is for the women's safety, we must learn to research a topic wholly before putting forward such questions
Temple is an abode of that Deity , hence if the deity prescribes certain rules and regulations , it should be adhered , similarly if someone has to enter others house .
But these rules are written by priests, not the deity. These books are carried down by so many priests that they edit some parts as well with their own wish. Although I do understand the “bhramachari”’position of the deity.
I am born a Kerala Christian, I am stunned that such a full on assault is being made on Sabrimala and Ayappa in the name of gender equality. Respect people’s beliefs and traditions. I do have a suggestion which will help immensely in gender equality: Either burquas should be banned among Muslims or Muslim men should be mandated to wear burqas as well. This is a cause I would like civil society and especially liberals to take up in India. The case of a handful of Hindu temples not allowing women or men due to occult reasons is very small fry. However Muslim women being subjected to this terrifying clothing befitting the 15th century Arabian desert is certainly something we should outlaw.
@Vaishnavi Phoolmali thats because hindus have never learned to stand united for their cause and just accept atrocities done on them and think that they are being favoured.. even after separating nations on religious discord even in present india we hindus as majority feel that we should appease the muslims.. thats why all the secular nonsense.. word secular was never in original constitution draft it came in 1976 which indira gandhui ji did for appeasing purpose..its very sad that today pseudo seculars and liberals are all about breaking india and its cultural identity ..attacking hindus while remaining silent on other religions... i have no hate for other religions... but if secular is the word then all majority minority etc becomes null and void.. babasaheb ambedkar had argued that this nation which has secularism in its culture itself as an accepted fact then there is no need to add it in the constitution.. and when rss is formed for unifaction of hindus and accepts all other religions doing them no damage.. everyone says its extremist .. rss has a muslim section too..
God never said that menstruating women should not enter the temple. It's just a mere foolish superstition to stop women from entering. And what do you mean assault in the name of gender equality? You are a guy so what do you know about the religious beliefs being imposed on women in all the religions? Y should we keep respecting such beliefs which only separates women? The way you all of you are talking only takes our country backwards and makes it regressive. You can keep arguing on it and give justifications to support your claim but it won't achieve anything. Y are you comparing muslims with Hindus? If muslim women are oppressed by their males counterparts so does that mean hindu women should also go through it? If muslims do something wrong so should we also do that? You want Hinduism to become like Islam? We want to be different from other and progress so instead indulging in whataboutery and running away we need to fight this up and progress
To be honest, religion is the only major factor which has barred women's freedom. All religions discriminate against women in some or the other form. I know you will call me a pseudo liberal a pseudo feminist or a pseudo intellectual or secular but this is the fact
@@veracity5412 no I will call you a liberandu or brainwashed commie. Try to learn more about Sanatana Dharma. Ith vere religion pole alla. Ivide men ine Keran pattatha temples vere und. Woman ine restrictions Sabarimala il ullath avar ethire ulal discrimination onum alla. Lord Ayyappa is a brahmachari. Appl Lord Ayyappante followers um brahmacharis Ann. Avarde idayil ee age grp il ulla woman verunath Sheri alla. Learn more about Brahmacharya.
Why do people target celibacy and dieties who vowed celibacy? Why is there such an urgent need to enter those specific temples when you can enter so many others easily?
A fast of 41 days is observed in requirement of visiting Sabarimala for devotees. A random person won't be allowed inside. You have to perform vrata for 41 days. Imagine the case with a menstruating woman. What would happen to her? Weakness or even death. A pregnant woman died in Sabarimala refuting rules and regulations of the temple. See ?
It is not the question of tiger smelling the women easily... Then women between the age below 10 and above 50 cannot smell by the tiger....... Moreover women between the 10 to 50 years can climb the mountains than women between the age below 10 and above 50 .. This either is not the proper reason ... The exact thing appears to be 1. The Mahishi mythology dates back to Devi bhagavatam...Mahisaasura Mardini. a) Wherein the Mahisi is the Sister of Mahisasura.. Mahisi and Mahisasura in their previous birth were Dattatreya and his consort Leelavathi. b) By cursing each other they born as Mahisi and Mahisaasura.(Brother and Sister ). c) Every body is aware of Mahisasura story...That is Mahisasura Mandini kills the demon Mahisasura and then what about Mahisi! ! d ) Mahisi is killed by Manikanta , the Ayyappa..... e) After leaving the body the Mahisi that is Leelavathi....Asked Ayyappa to marry her and pressurised him. f) As Leelavathi is the Dattatreya's (Avadhoota ) cosort and also His mission is to show the Jyothiswaroopa that is born of two Male (gods)...Male and Female is just an illusion/Maya.... g) Birth and Death are repetitive and are subject to change in form as Man or Women... h) That is the soul is neither man not women it is only a jyothi swaroopam.... i) Instead of repeatedly denying the ex-mahisi's proposal the Mahisi did not Listen... Then Ayyappa to prevent ex-Mahisi Made the rule that women between 10 to 50 years should not Enter in his abode. ( Because even ex-Mahisi takes the From below the age of 10 or above the age of 50 she may not Insist him him for Marriage..And also the desire may not be that strong to ask him for marriage...) 2 .Finally Travancore Samstha by nit fully aware if the fact... Could not submit the proper clear reply to the Supreme Court Notice And hence the judgement..... For any query or Argument... Contact... H.Santa Rao.,BE.,BL,ACIJP.... hsantarai@gmail.com 9866264230....
@@ranitbiswas680 I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited. Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice. What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences. Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies. If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening. Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences. Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond. We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences. who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind. Atleast it did to me. Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple. If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible. Thank you 😊 ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
@Arun Gupta shiv grihastha hai, ayappa brahmachari wo bhi naistik brahmachari sabse tough wala secondly shastras are supreme and shastras should be followed
I'm an Atheist....I understood what u meant...of course it's about islam isn't it?...yes....As an atheist my stand is that just like Hinduism, Islam must also be criticized....
Undisputed 13 Hindu rituals are not a mere rituals like how current world understands! There be no values if there is no rituals in Hindusim! And Hindusim is all about inclusive and energy not like abrahamic exclusive way!!!
@@hindudaily9173 brother watch the full video nd try to understand the rituals were made on the basis of the circumstances in that particular area in that particular time but now after thousands of years our lifestyles have completely changed,therefore the rituals too need to be eradicated now as many of them (like the sabrimala Temple one) remain baseless
Undisputed 13 ok listen it’s pure disrespect to claim something baseless. I been taking up sabarimala pilgrimage for 10 years now. Sabarimala existing for a cause, unlike normal-temple. However there are more than 5 lakh females visiting sabarimala do you know that? That itself break the claims of gender equality by few pseudos, it’s not restriction, it’s prescription. Coming to point, each temple have its purpose to serve, in sabarimalas case, it’s more like school to experience the lifestyle of bhramachari. And unlike other temples made and set rules by the priest who did pranapradishta, sabarimalas rule is set by lord ayyappa himself. We should change the way to look at temple like how westerns taught. Sabarimala is home to ayyappa and when someone has to go to his house, they indeed need to follow his rules, or else they can go to any regular thousands of ayyappa temples all around the world. And here sadhguru himself said he don’t know much about sabarimala, he assumed the reason behind the age barrier. That’s it!
Well from where those book hv come from, heaven!? They are written by some men ofcourse and humans make mistakes and we need to update these books. Well if u still cannot understand then i cannot sing for a deaf.
But Hindu temples never discriminate against women. These things never happened in the Hinduism. Why are we so hecked up about it. Like Sadhguru said we should respect the sensibilities of Bhahmachari Deities. Navika ji is not understanding the depth of the spiritual nature. We Hindus should first study the depth of our own culture before making it a cause. Sadhguru was clear that occult practices happen. She is not getting it. Very low awareness of spirituality. At least brush up knowledge before asking questions.
Dear Guru, women restriction in Sabharimala is purely due to the faith associated with the nature of the Deity. There is only restriction and no ban. . Although other factors including the facility and security are still an issue as all the state governments were interested only to plunder the devotees money without building basic facility for them. Now the communist government mislead the supreme court by changing affidavit and gained favourable verdict for them to implement their hidden agenda of destroying Hindu temple and Hindu faith. They have been trying to do this even if they were not in power by defaming Shabarimala with various lies. To summarise the faith, as you rightly said, it is like this. Men are not allowed to certain temple in India. Similarly women has some age restriction to enter due to the speciality associated with the Deity. It is probably the only temple in the world where there is no discriminaition in terms of cast and religion. Everybody can go.
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited. Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice. What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences. Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies. If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening. Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences. Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond. We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences. who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind. Atleast it did to me. Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple. If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible. Thank you 😊 ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) prophet muhammad said : 'Do not stop Allah's women-slaves from going to Allah's Mosques' prevents him." (sahih bukhari 900) The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "If your women ask permission to go to the mosque at night, allow them." (sahih bukhari 865)
Great to see her end the discussion when he started talking about men's prohibition to certain temples. Her mind was not fluid it is rigid with an opinion that is "no matter weather you sound logical or not my point is right anyways".
Why do you think only women are liked by tigers as they are liked by Men ! We are in Modern India ? The deity being brahmachari was also born of a mother ! Not a good excuse . Toilet and temple are different you can’t equate these two !
OMG why don't you understand a simple thing even? Carnivores are attracted to creatures only through the smell of the latter' blood .Women menstruate. Men don't. A 41 days vrata is observed in requirement of visiting Sabarimala. Women in their reproductive age if attempted this think what would happen to them. At least one or two times menstruation. 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case. Result would be weakness and even death. I know of a pregnant woman who died there while trying to break free of regulations. Think logically instead of putting up silly arguments with negligible knowledge on show.
you need to understand the essence of this tradition please, we can't put crude logic into this.its like respective someones privacy and acknowledging different sensibilities. not only brahmachari ,but we all are for born from our mothers but that doesn't mean we should not respect each others privacy.
Once there was untouchability where a lower caste cannot touch a higher caste . It was part of a religion and it was normalized by our own culture. People started wondering what is the difference between me and you, we are built biologically the same and have the same function of survival. So why cant i be on the same level, i can do business i can own a property i have the right to follow any religion . This was how caste discrimination was destroyed . Now its okay to respect a religion and their ideologies but not to an extent where women and men are discriminated on the basis of religious propaganda and beliefs its totally a new way of discrimination just like the old way of caste discrimination. It must be destroyed. Now some religious followers might comment let women inside a mosque where men are only allowed. I totally side to that fact too only if the women want.
Iam a Malayali.. I have never heard such valuable explanation before... The feminists who all arguing to enter Sabarimala, even didnt visit to their nerby temples..
I and my FAMILY are kanni swami and I and my FAMILY are comming to sabarimala temple on may fifteenth and my age is forty seven years old my uterus and ovary had been removed and also my menopause has stopped
In the last she said that men are not poor in this country men are not discriminated i think she need to go through the facts that men are always exploitated and they are not even given a chance to present themselves as a victim due to societal pressure 🙂
they think temple is like a church/mosque, which is a public facility for those practising the faith, a temple or more accurately a Mandir literally means a house/palace, yes it means a house, ayyappa mandir means the house of ayyappa, and in this particular house/madir located in sabarimala(aka. the hill where Sri Rama met Sabari) ayyappa is living as a monk with vows including celebacy, etc and women do not approach a celebate monk as a sign of "common sense", and there are other mandirs/houses where he is residing in his other phases of life before his brahmacharya like teenage so on, and in these temples obviously women are allowed, people who dont even know what a temple, is trying show political gains, doing stupid things in all that i see. Jaya Shri Indra
Navika didn't get the point I can see. She was only engulfed with women empowerment thing. This case(ayappa temple) sabrimala is different case because deity is brahmachari, she didn't get this simple point.
Just like woman hugs the stranger woman but not the stranger man , is it gender discrimination. If a woman don't share a bed with his male friend but share a bed with woman friend. Ist a gender discrimination. I think it's the sensibility and intelligence that people need to understand.
In front of God, we all are children of God. If Ayyappa is son of Lord Easwar, then he should be our brother. Then, should not any lady go to see his brother? Is this disturbance to his brahmacharya? If anyone can explain, please explain to develop my ideology.
I believe women of all age groups shall be allowed to enter the religious places but if they are experiencing their menstrual cycle (same as if any person is not feeling well on a certain day and chooses to stay at home) they should exempt themselves from going.
@@deepakrao612 Here is a translation by Mr. Veeramani S. Iyer . I am reproducing it here with the hope that he would like his work to be available to others. English 1st stanza . Hari varaasanam viswa mohanam Haridha dheeswaram aaraadhya paadukam - Ari vimardhanam nithya narthanam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: Repository of Hari’s boons, Enchanter of Universe, Essence of Hari’s grace, He whose holy feet is worshipped, He who kills enemies by good thought, He who daily dances the cosmic dance, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa 2nd stanza Sarana keerthanam shaktha maanasam - Bharana lolupam narthanaalasam Aruna bhaasuram bhootha naayakam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: He who likes song of refuge, He who is in the mind of devotees, He who is the great ruler, He who loves to dance, He who shines like the rising sun, He who is king of all beings, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa 3rd stanza Pranayasathyakam Praananayakam Pranathakalpakam Suprabhanchitham Pranavamandiram Keerthanapriyam Hariharathmajam Devamashraye Sharanam Ayyappa Swamy Sharanam Ayyappa Sharanam Ayyappa Swamy Sharanam Ayyappa Meaning: He whose is true love, He who is the darling of soul, He who created universe, He who shines with a glittering halo, He who is the temple of “OM”, He who loves songs, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord My refuge is in you Ayyappa, My refuge is in you Ayyappa 4th stanza Thuraga vaahanam sundaraananam - Vara gadhayudham Veda varnitham - Guru Krupaakaram keerthana priyam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: He who rides a horse, He who has a pretty face, He who has the blessed mace as weapon, He who is glorified by Vedas He who bestows grace like a teacher, He who loves songs, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord My refuge is in you Ayyappa, My refuge is in you Ayyappa 5th stanza Thribhuvanarchitham Devathathmakam Thrinayanam Prabhum Divyadeshikam Thridashapoojitham Chinthithapradam Hariharathmajam Devamashraye Saranam Ayyappa Swamy Saranam Saranam Ayyappa Swamy Saranam Meaning: He who is worshiped by the three worlds, He who is the soul of all gods, He who is lord Shiva, He who resides in holy place, He who is worshipped three times a day, He whose thought itself is fulfilling, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord My refuge is in you Ayyappa, My refuge you Ayyappa 6th stanza Bhava bhayaa paham bhaavu kaavaham - Bhuvana mohanam bhoothi bhooshanam - Dhawala vaahanam divya vaaranam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: He who destroys fear, He who brings prosperity, He who is enchanter of Universe, He who wears holy ash as ornament, He who rides a white elephant, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa 7th stanza Kalamrudu smitham sundaraananam - Kalabha Komalam gaathra mohanam - Kalabha kesari vaaji vaahanam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: He who blesses with enchanting smile, He who has is very pretty, He who is adorned by sandal paste, He who has a pretty mien, He who is a like a lion to the elephants, He who rides on a tiger, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa 8th stanza Srithajana priyam chinthitha pradam - Sruthi vibhooshanam saadhu jeevanam - Sruthi manoharam geetha lalasam - Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye - Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa Meaning: He who is dear to his devotees, He who fulfills wishes, He who is praised by Vedas, He who blesses life of ascetics, He who is the essence of Vedas, He who enjoys divine music, Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa
We should ban all ladies club, no pink busses no ladies parlor no ladies gym either hereafter. All these public places are violating the fundamental rules of gender equality. We men are feeling insulted and discriminated because we have The right to go to clubs The right to fitness for gym The right to travel The right for parlors The right for gender equality everywhere So all the public places are violating constitutional fundamental rights. So we men are requesting to ban all ladies club pink busses ladies gym ladies parlors These places are spreading untouchablilty against men
I never thought that Navika kumar would be this mandhbuddhi to not understand the simplest way said by Sadguru... Its so simple to understand .. Even that 10year old child will understand that why is she not allowed to enter the temple.. Navika pl tell me one thing, today no country allows a single Man to adopt or even foster a girl child, why??? Is it because all the govt has labeled that all men in this world are rapist hence this step.. No.. Sometimes you do take some necessary decisions just for the betterment.. One more simpler way for you Navika.. When you hv a guest at home n he is a gentleman, he respects you a lot.. You are sleeping in the your room n he enters your room n uses your washroom. Wont you b uncomfortable.. Will you still be calm about it.. Remember he respects you.. But still you will hv that feeling of invading your personal space.. They take the deity as a living N hence it can make the deity a bit uncomfortable is all they are trying to say.. Getting secularism into religion is totally hinduphobic attitude..
M not comparing both it is just wat i though There are many me- to cases which hasbeen proved fake , here women entered due political intensiob instead blaming we should find who hasbeen encouraged those womens to enter
Sabarimala is not just Temple Visit.. Temple visit is only a part of the complete activity of worshipper.. The people who visit this temple follow Vrata for 40 days.. its not less than Penance.. in which they follow many self-put rules, regulations and one of them is doing pooja every morning and evening.. Once they successfully complete penance these 40 days, they visit the temple.. Now women.. They obviously cannot successfully complete 40 days of Vrata because they have menstrual periods in between.. It is only possible for women / girls of certain age group.. People who do not know all these just bark about discrimination etc.. Really how many women will like to perform the rituals and enter the temple really? There are lakhs of temples in India and world.. how many temples did they really visit? If it was only to discriminate, then Temple just would have put a rule 'ALL WORSHIPPERS SHOULD ENTER THE TEMPLE WITHOUT THE TOP GARMENT' and let in any person who follow this norm.. But Temple did not do that...
As of this topic I have no interest but I noticed some people mentioning #north indian ladies....are these n that....so do u think all north Indians r bad n all south Indians r good???
Utter nonsense. He himself gives the toilet eg and then says let's not compare temple and toilet. This is nothing but patriarchy. If we start looking at sensitivity n sensibility of sections then no one can do anything cos everyone is sensitive about something. Even the highest court passing a judgement is a joke and gone against in this country.
Wowiwowiwoow finally someone I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited. Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice. What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences. Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies. If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening. Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences. Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond. We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences. who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind. Atleast it did to me. Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple. If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible. Thank you 😊 ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
There are lot of temples in India where men are not allowed to enter. We men respect our tradition and are following that. But all those feminists who are trying to break our culture beware god is watching you.
🕉️🕉️🕉️ Egg cell/ ovum ek aisi cell hai jo body k baki cells se 100 times size me badi hoti hai Periods start hone ke baad 14th day ko leutinizing hormone ki surge ki vajah se ovary se mature hua graffian follicle niklta hai Wo graffian follicle yani egg ko cornuae abdomenal cavity se utha lete hai aur cilliary action se fallopian tube se uterus tk pahocha dete hai Agar tb egg fertilize (matlab 14din coitus/sex nahi kiya to) nahi hua to do din me vo egg mar jata hai Jb tak ovary me corpus luteum hai tab tak kuch nahi hota, mara hua egg vahi uterus me pada rahta hai (upto28day) Ab egg cell normal body cells k mukable 100bada hone ki vajah se koi phagocyte usko destroy nahi kar sakta aur uterus ke epithelium me fallopian tube jaise cilia bhi nhi hote Fir To pura ka pura endometrium ka dehiscence chalu hota agle mahine me jb progesterone level decrease hota hai (28day complete cycle) Degenerative enzymes jo endometrium k epithelium k cells k lysozome k andar hote hai wo egg aur pura endometrium aur blood vessels destroy karte hai Matlab Endometrium k sath sath uske andar ka sara vasculature destroy hota jiski vajah se bleeding hoti hai Ab ye jo blood hai wo body ka normal blood hai Utna hi normal jitna kise aam mard ya jiska period nahi chal raha hai aise aurat ka Aurat mard ek saman hai aur during periods pad laga ke (because we live where we have already invented sanitary pad) aurat mandir ho ya jo bhi waha jaa sakti hai Ab Samze!
Tumne sirf process samjhaya he. Baki kahan gayi? Menstruation se blood loss nhi hota kya. Sabarimala ko ghoorne ke liye bhakto ko ek criteria fulfil krna hota hain. 41 days fasting! Matlab at least 1 or 2 times of menstruation. Socho- 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case. Result hoga kamzori or death bhi kyon ki fasting krna parta he 41 days mandir me. Yeh koi tourist attraction samaj ke rakha he kya? Srf bhakt aate he yaha. Women of age range 10 to 50 are prescribed not to enter the temple and not restricted. Ek pregnant woman thi jo zabardasti ghusne par utaaru thi. Uski mandir me hi death ho gayi.
Our legislative system tells us that by jallikattu people do atrocity on animals I wanna ask them a simple question that is bakra eid is an animal loving festival They make rules on hindus whether it's about jallikattu,Diwali or Sabrimala they tell us women can't enter into that temple because of our gender inequality but they don't say it on Navrata when we worship only 9 girl children not a single boy that's their hypocrisy they don't talk why women can't enter Mosques why even in 21st century a lot of women are in veiled why still in some communities women genital mutilation is going on and they can't do anything on it because their parents did it
We should ban all ladies club, no pink busses no ladies parlor no ladies gym either hereafter. All these public places are violating the fundamental rules of gender equality. We men are feeling insulted and discriminated because we have The right to go to clubs The right to fitness for gym The right to travel The right for parlors The right for gender equality everywhere So all the public places are violating constitutional fundamental rights. So we men are requesting to ban all ladies club pink busses ladies gym ladies parlors These places are spreading untouchablilty against men
its actually more than that, pls watch Sinu Josheph's video and you will get it's idea better! I personally did not support the sabarimala system, but there is a more scientifical explanation for why it is followed, so I don't support the system but science is something else. If a woman is fine with going there knowing the biological problems, let her because it's her choice, but it's just that they will face issues (not stupid social issues, but real biological issues). It ain't about tradition, I don't support all that tradition arguement. But the part which is overlooked is the scientific effect it has on women, so that's all. (btw I don't supports fools over the internet saying *Athiests should not decide a temple's tradition*) I am not that typical Hindu/religionist trying to protect his/her culture. I'm only speaking about facts, I personally still find it hard that women can't enter, but when they face problems, you know it's better they stay away for their *biological safety*. Thank You! edit : I am a proud feminist, who understands feminism, and personally don't think this has much to do with it. SO, STOP! stop blaming and mistreating feminists, they are better people than other typical males/females and other genders surely. My respect to all feminists who understands it well! also, Feminists could be of any gender
Simple whoever this lady is, she has no dignity questioning about the sentiments of the temple traditions. She is bent up on fighting for so called rights
Agnihotra yajna, which is called Mahayajna or in simple terms: Yajna of all yajnas, was performed by both men and women everyday. Women performed this yajna and all yajnas even on their periods. Rishikas like Romasha, Juhu, Lopamudra, Vishwawara,etc. did immense tapas and performed such "occult" practices even in their periods. With no scriptural reference can u ever prove menstruation to be a taboo in Hinduism. It is as respected as Brahmacharya, coz it continues procreation. Girls entering puberty and having first period, are celebrated, venerated with drums and cornets on Rajo. We even worship the vagina of a menstruating Goddess. So people who are claiming that women shouldn't enter temples or do pujas just for periods are totally SHIT. Yes, Swami Ayappa is a Nimbaka Brahmachari for which the other sex is not allowed to be within his vicinity. That is okay. That is his privacy and I respect that. But in other temples and practices where women aren't allowed just for their periods, is totally CRAP. You can't give me any reference from Vedas or Shastras for such irrationality
Not beating about the bush. The real reason is again mentioned by him. 41 days fasting is a mandate to fulfill prior to visiting Sabarimala. How would a woman in her reproductive age do that? At least 1 or 2 times of menstruation. 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case that would result in weakness. A pregnant woman who was trying to enter the temple died there. Women of age range 10 to 50 are prescribed not to enter the temple, not restricted. How come that pregnant women enter if she'd been restricted?
Remember these deity are created by men in old days. And there is infact a clear discrimination based in this issue. And there is a whataboutism questions of how islam trears woman. First you correct your own religion then everyone will follow.
A temple is not a cinema theater and it certainly not a secular place . By definition it is a religious place . So respect the sentiments of the culture . there is a deference between discrimination and diversity. If so called activists do not understand the simple logic shame on them.
Ask the same to your mother than come and comment her response back
@@milburngomes6951 If his mother has common sense then you, she will accept what culture is.
Wait isn't that what sai Deepak sir said during a debate
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited.
Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice.
What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences.
Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies.
If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening.
Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences.
Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond.
We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences.
who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind.
Atleast it did to me.
Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple.
If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible.
Thank you 😊
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
J Sai Deepak's lines. Dude, at least you can give him the credit?
Respect the deity's nature... I'm a Christian BTW.
God never said that menstruating women should bot enter temple. It's just a stupid superstition which needs to change. It's barring gender equality
@@veracity5412 that's the wish of the owner or the manager of the Temple to allow who ever they want. Taking it as Enequality is your Desperacy to frame us discriminates
@@nandan1259 who the hell is the owner to decide this? The owner can decide whatever he or she wants to in the name of religion and create superstitions. The owner is a human being like us capable of committing mistakes, not some god.
If you are supporting this belief and discrimination then you are nothing but a regressive conservative backward person who does not want to progress and question your faith.
At times, we need to put down our faiths and move on and evolve instead of getting stuck and saying,"it's our culture, religion or respect beliefs"
Keep your facts and logic first and then religious beliefs second.
You can call me a pseudo feminist or pseudo liberal or a pseudo secular or intellectual person if you wish to.
I rest my case here🙏
@@nandan1259 you can keep arguing and justifying by giving some or the other explanation but you won't achieve anything and won't progress
@@veracity5412 The owner is the owner of the Temple. He decided not to allow Women inside. If he had decided not to allow men, we at the first wouldn't care and it's his property, he's settings rules of the property that's his, he's not deciding to spread hate or do Enequality. If you don't like the rules fine. Don't debate about it in the name of religion. It's like saying if I'm not allowed allowed in the Women's rest room I'm being discriminated and that's Enequality. What nonsense is that 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. You know you won't have much to say, other than just calling us Discriminates.
Tantrik temples are not mere tourist places. People go there with a sense of belief.
Whats the point of going into a temple when you dont have the courtesy to respect its traditions?
We just need to question ourselves if we want to prove a point or if we really want to pray
If you are a believer and the intent is to pray then you should follow the tradition. It is as simple as that.
Behind every tradition there will be some reason
As an indian we need to respect our tradition and culture
If any rape happened why you are not taking to Supreme Court that is called equality not the culture not the way of dressing
Why women are not allowed in Sabarimala ??
Panthalam place where lord Ayyappa was born which now turned temple= women are allowed
Achankovil: he's in a saint form = women are allowed
Aryankavu : he's in a teenager form = women are allowed
Sabarimala : he is in a nitya brahmachari vratha = women are not allowed ...
As simple as that.... 😒
Also,
Kulathupuzha temple- Ayyappa is a small child- women are allowed
Even if he is Brahmachari women just go to pray right..
Why we always question the rituals before knowing the true fact behind it? It always spread a bad message to the community.
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited.
Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice.
What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences.
Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies.
If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening.
Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences.
Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond.
We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences.
who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind.
Atleast it did to me.
Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple.
If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible.
Thank you 😊
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
Try entering mosque ladies why question hindu culture 😁
Ladies are already allowed to go in mosques 😂, man. Now talk abiut hindu culture
@@veracity5412 name one mosque
@@aayusharora4086 all mosques allow women and there is a separate section in mosques for women and men
@@veracity5412 not all mosques...if so why not mecca did you go there madam??
@@veracity5412 also why's there a separate section..why can't you pray in a same section....in temples we don't do that, either they don't allow women or if they do we have a same section .
Well explained by Sadhguru g...
Some customs must follow,don't name everything to discrimination...
It is good that this video is out on RUclips this shows that one needs to see even deeper down before some questions on certain topic.
For me personally it was a big eye opener as to how there's a big big difference between discrimination and the sense of significance of the place.
He explained it so well and clear in the first go itself even then she kept the issue dragging too long...pity on poor interviewer that she couldn't create controversy
Lady Joe is here!
Well, I won't go that far. She was pretty respectful throughout her questions except at the end, where she blatantly ridiculed all men. Somehow, that got overlooked by people in the comment section.
😂😂😂right!!
I appreciate Navika for asking this question to sadhguru
real reason is the high amount of energy is emitted in the temples due to their high altitude and geographical location, it affects the hormones, menstruation cycles of women , this is why they arent allowed, it is for the women's safety, we must learn to research a topic wholly before putting forward such questions
Temple is an abode of that Deity , hence if the deity prescribes certain rules and regulations , it should be adhered , similarly if someone has to enter others house .
Neither does a deity have constitutional rights nor does anyone have any proof or documentation that the deity made up those rules. It’s just belief
But these rules are written by priests, not the deity. These books are carried down by so many priests that they edit some parts as well with their own wish.
Although I do understand the “bhramachari”’position of the deity.
No its just not gender discrimination it's about the rituals n culture which has been followed by so many years
I am born a Kerala Christian, I am stunned that such a full on assault is being made on Sabrimala and Ayappa in the name of gender equality. Respect people’s beliefs and traditions.
I do have a suggestion which will help immensely in gender equality:
Either burquas should be banned among Muslims or Muslim men should be mandated to wear burqas as well. This is a cause I would like civil society and especially liberals to take up in India. The case of a handful of Hindu temples not allowing women or men due to occult reasons is very small fry. However Muslim women being subjected to this terrifying clothing befitting the 15th century Arabian desert is certainly something we should outlaw.
@Vaishnavi Phoolmali thats because hindus have never learned to stand united for their cause and just accept atrocities done on them and think that they are being favoured.. even after separating nations on religious discord even in present india we hindus as majority feel that we should appease the muslims.. thats why all the secular nonsense.. word secular was never in original constitution draft it came in 1976 which indira gandhui ji did for appeasing purpose..its very sad that today pseudo seculars and liberals are all about breaking india and its cultural identity ..attacking hindus while remaining silent on other religions... i have no hate for other religions... but if secular is the word then all majority minority etc becomes null and void.. babasaheb ambedkar had argued that this nation which has secularism in its culture itself as an accepted fact then there is no need to add it in the constitution.. and when rss is formed for unifaction of hindus and accepts all other religions doing them no damage.. everyone says its extremist .. rss has a muslim section too..
God never said that menstruating women should not enter the temple. It's just a mere foolish superstition to stop women from entering. And what do you mean assault in the name of gender equality? You are a guy so what do you know about the religious beliefs being imposed on women in all the religions? Y should we keep respecting such beliefs which only separates women? The way you all of you are talking only takes our country backwards and makes it regressive. You can keep arguing on it and give justifications to support your claim but it won't achieve anything.
Y are you comparing muslims with Hindus? If muslim women are oppressed by their males counterparts so does that mean hindu women should also go through it? If muslims do something wrong so should we also do that? You want Hinduism to become like Islam?
We want to be different from other and progress so instead indulging in whataboutery and running away we need to fight this up and progress
To be honest, religion is the only major factor which has barred women's freedom. All religions discriminate against women in some or the other form.
I know you will call me a pseudo liberal a pseudo feminist or a pseudo intellectual or secular but this is the fact
@@veracity5412 no I will call you a liberandu or brainwashed commie.
Try to learn more about Sanatana Dharma.
Ith vere religion pole alla.
Ivide men ine Keran pattatha temples vere und.
Woman ine restrictions Sabarimala il ullath avar ethire ulal discrimination onum alla.
Lord Ayyappa is a brahmachari. Appl Lord Ayyappante followers um brahmacharis Ann. Avarde idayil ee age grp il ulla woman verunath Sheri alla.
Learn more about Brahmacharya.
@@veracity5412 Hinduism never discriminate aganist woman. If you got a point tell me.
Why do people target celibacy and dieties who vowed celibacy? Why is there such an urgent need to enter those specific temples when you can enter so many others easily?
A fast of 41 days is observed in requirement of visiting Sabarimala for devotees. A random person won't be allowed inside. You have to perform vrata for 41 days. Imagine the case with a menstruating woman. What would happen to her? Weakness or even death. A pregnant woman died in Sabarimala refuting rules and regulations of the temple. See ?
Here ruclips.net/video/aQ5WzXaMHao/видео.html is the answer
Once entered, they dont have a clue on what next... entering for the sake of it
@@PriyankaDas-vw8vo you have a good point here
Id recommend this one...
I'll watch yours too
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
Women temples are there men are not permission
agreed.
It is not the question of tiger smelling the women easily...
Then women between the age below 10 and above 50 cannot smell by the tiger.......
Moreover women between the 10 to 50 years can climb the mountains than women between the age below 10 and above 50
..
This either is not the proper reason ...
The exact thing appears to be
1. The Mahishi mythology dates back to Devi bhagavatam...Mahisaasura Mardini.
a) Wherein the Mahisi is the Sister of
Mahisasura..
Mahisi and Mahisasura in their previous birth were Dattatreya and his consort Leelavathi.
b) By cursing each other they born as Mahisi and Mahisaasura.(Brother and Sister ).
c) Every body is aware of Mahisasura story...That is Mahisasura Mandini kills the demon Mahisasura and then what about Mahisi! !
d ) Mahisi is killed by Manikanta , the Ayyappa.....
e) After leaving the body the Mahisi that is Leelavathi....Asked Ayyappa
to marry her and pressurised him.
f) As Leelavathi is the Dattatreya's (Avadhoota ) cosort and also
His mission is to show the
Jyothiswaroopa that is born of two
Male (gods)...Male and Female is just an illusion/Maya....
g) Birth and Death are repetitive and are subject to change in form as Man or Women...
h) That is the soul is neither man not women it is only a jyothi swaroopam....
i) Instead of repeatedly denying the ex-mahisi's proposal the Mahisi did not Listen...
Then Ayyappa to prevent ex-Mahisi
Made the rule that women between 10 to 50 years should not
Enter in his abode.
( Because even ex-Mahisi takes the
From below the age of 10 or above the age of 50 she may not
Insist him him for Marriage..And also the desire may not be that strong to ask him for marriage...)
2 .Finally Travancore Samstha by nit fully aware if the fact...
Could not submit the proper clear reply to the Supreme Court Notice
And hence the judgement.....
For any query or Argument...
Contact...
H.Santa Rao.,BE.,BL,ACIJP....
hsantarai@gmail.com
9866264230....
From which source u can say this.
10 to 50 is a period when menstruation happens
Pls don't doxx yourself
@@ranitbiswas680 I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited.
Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice.
What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences.
Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies.
If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening.
Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences.
Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond.
We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences.
who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind.
Atleast it did to me.
Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple.
If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible.
Thank you 😊
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
he is sitting in his house following brahmacharya whats ur prblm?
@Arun Gupta shiv grihastha hai, ayappa brahmachari
wo bhi naistik brahmachari
sabse tough wala
secondly shastras are supreme and shastras should be followed
@@ranitbiswas680 became not biological kids ,5jybwere made of mud,sabrimala is differnt case
@@ranitbiswas680 hanuman ni had s a son but still brahmacahri
@@ranitbiswas680 a brahmachari doesn't has lust.he may marry and have children for society.not for lust like ordinary people.
I would like to ask that lady reporter, will you dare to put the same question to other religions, if yes, pls share the video.
Ask your mother first
@@milburngomes6951 Koi logic hai teri baat mein...If examiner ask you a question, would you say ask you mother 😂😂 Stupid!!
I'm an Atheist....I understood what u meant...of course it's about islam isn't it?...yes....As an atheist my stand is that just like Hinduism, Islam must also be criticized....
Wtf she meant books written thousands years ago must be changed ? Will she change bible and Quran ?
She meant that the rituals must be changed not the values!!
Undisputed 13 Hindu rituals are not a mere rituals like how current world understands! There be no values if there is no rituals in Hindusim! And Hindusim is all about inclusive and energy not like abrahamic exclusive way!!!
@@hindudaily9173 brother watch the full video nd try to understand the rituals were made on the basis of the circumstances in that particular area in that particular time but now after thousands of years our lifestyles have completely changed,therefore the rituals too need to be eradicated now as many of them (like the sabrimala Temple one) remain baseless
Undisputed 13 ok listen it’s pure disrespect to claim something baseless. I been taking up sabarimala pilgrimage for 10 years now. Sabarimala existing for a cause, unlike normal-temple. However there are more than 5 lakh females visiting sabarimala do you know that? That itself break the claims of gender equality by few pseudos, it’s not restriction, it’s prescription. Coming to point, each temple have its purpose to serve, in sabarimalas case, it’s more like school to experience the lifestyle of bhramachari. And unlike other temples made and set rules by the priest who did pranapradishta, sabarimalas rule is set by lord ayyappa himself. We should change the way to look at temple like how westerns taught. Sabarimala is home to ayyappa and when someone has to go to his house, they indeed need to follow his rules, or else they can go to any regular thousands of ayyappa temples all around the world. And here sadhguru himself said he don’t know much about sabarimala, he assumed the reason behind the age barrier. That’s it!
Well from where those book hv come from, heaven!? They are written by some men ofcourse and humans make mistakes and we need to update these books. Well if u still cannot understand then i cannot sing for a deaf.
There are certain vibrations which can create negative impact on a women's health, not everything can be seen as a discrimination
But Hindu temples never discriminate against women. These things never happened in the Hinduism. Why are we so hecked up about it. Like Sadhguru said we should respect the sensibilities of Bhahmachari Deities. Navika ji is not understanding the depth of the spiritual nature.
We Hindus should first study the depth of our own culture before making it a cause. Sadhguru was clear that occult practices happen. She is not getting it. Very low awareness of spirituality. At least brush up knowledge before asking questions.
Dear Guru, women restriction in Sabharimala is purely due to the faith associated with the nature of the Deity. There is only restriction and no ban. . Although other factors including the facility and security are still an issue as all the state governments were interested only to plunder the devotees money without building basic facility for them. Now the communist government mislead the supreme court by changing affidavit and gained favourable verdict for them to implement their hidden agenda of destroying Hindu temple and Hindu faith. They have been trying to do this even if they were not in power by defaming Shabarimala with various lies. To summarise the faith, as you rightly said, it is like this. Men are not allowed to certain temple in India. Similarly women has some age restriction to enter due to the speciality associated with the Deity. It is probably the only temple in the world where there is no discriminaition in terms of cast and religion. Everybody can go.
Wr r u from?
India or outside?
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited.
Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice.
What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences.
Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies.
If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening.
Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences.
Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond.
We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences.
who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind.
Atleast it did to me.
Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple.
If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible.
Thank you 😊
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
Y womens are not allowed in Mosque 4 pray.. y they wear tent to protect ... V demand 4 entering women in mosque or masjid
They are allowed in masjid to go
Arrey bhai ma chudae ye inhe mosque Jane de ya nahi Hume kya
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) prophet muhammad said : 'Do not stop Allah's women-slaves from going to Allah's Mosques' prevents him." (sahih bukhari 900)
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "If your women ask permission to go to the mosque at night, allow them." (sahih bukhari 865)
And this lady has no sense.
This nation needs more educated and sensible journalists. A degree in journalism is not everything.
Great to see her end the discussion when he started talking about men's prohibition to certain temples. Her mind was not fluid it is rigid with an opinion that is "no matter weather you sound logical or not my point is right anyways".
I am very shocked .. How supreme Court can not understand our culture
Because they follows books written by britishers
Why do you think only women are liked by tigers as they are liked by Men ! We are in Modern India ?
The deity being brahmachari was also born of a mother ! Not a good excuse . Toilet and temple are different you can’t equate these two !
OMG why don't you understand a simple thing even? Carnivores are attracted to creatures only through the smell of the latter' blood .Women menstruate. Men don't. A 41 days vrata is observed in requirement of visiting Sabarimala. Women in their reproductive age if attempted this think what would happen to them. At least one or two times menstruation. 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case. Result would be weakness and even death. I know of a pregnant woman who died there while trying to break free of regulations. Think logically instead of putting up silly arguments with negligible knowledge on show.
you need to understand the essence of this tradition please, we can't put crude logic into this.its like respective someones privacy and acknowledging different sensibilities. not only brahmachari ,but we all are for born from our mothers but that doesn't mean we should not respect each others privacy.
@@PriyankaDas-vw8vo 👍👍👍👍👍
That is not discrimination... That is Sense❤
For all activits and Feminists...
I think we should respect the bramacharya of the holy deity.
Once there was untouchability where a lower caste cannot touch a higher caste . It was part of a religion and it was normalized by our own culture. People started wondering what is the difference between me and you, we are built biologically the same and have the same function of survival. So why cant i be on the same level, i can do business i can own a property i have the right to follow any religion . This was how caste discrimination was destroyed . Now its okay to respect a religion and their ideologies but not to an extent where women and men are discriminated on the basis of religious propaganda and beliefs its totally a new way of discrimination just like the old way of caste discrimination. It must be destroyed. Now some religious followers might comment let women inside a mosque where men are only allowed. I totally side to that fact too only if the women want.
Journalism standards in India seriously needs to improve 😢
Sadhguru is right
Very well explained 👌👍👍
Iam a Malayali.. I have never heard such valuable explanation before... The feminists who all arguing to enter Sabarimala, even didnt visit to their nerby temples..
4:20 Can anyone tell me the difference between god and deity?
God is an eternal power one can find within himself. No external force acts there. Deity is the representation of a culture or a lifestyle
@@pythagoras6313 diety = deva , god is foreign concept(there is only one, praying blabla
I and my FAMILY are kanni swami and I and my FAMILY are comming to sabarimala temple on may fifteenth and my age is forty seven years old my uterus and ovary had been removed and also my menopause has stopped
This comment section shows why we have not built proper toilets for ourselves.
underrated
@@wlqpqpqlqmwnhssisjw6055 lol he is the real dog can u protest for Muslims women
@@gauravlingwal4308 what does he mean?
Sadhguru 🔥🔥
In the last she said that men are not poor in this country men are not discriminated i think she need to go through the facts that men are always exploitated and they are not even given a chance to present themselves as a victim due to societal pressure 🙂
He said it very well
they think temple is like a church/mosque, which is a public facility for those practising the faith, a temple or more accurately a Mandir literally means a house/palace, yes it means a house, ayyappa mandir means the house of ayyappa, and in this particular house/madir located in sabarimala(aka. the hill where Sri Rama met Sabari) ayyappa is living as a monk with vows including celebacy, etc and women do not approach a celebate monk as a sign of "common sense", and there are other mandirs/houses where he is residing in his other phases of life before his brahmacharya like teenage so on, and in these temples obviously women are allowed, people who dont even know what a temple, is trying show political gains, doing stupid things in all that i see. Jaya Shri Indra
And The Women has No Sense 😂🤣🤣
कितना गुस्सा आ रहा है उसपर क्या बताऊँ भाई🙏🙏
@@YogeshSharma-cq7cz the deity himself rejects women, they wants to forcefully enter somebody's house without any consent.
Navika didn't get the point I can see. She was only engulfed with women empowerment thing. This case(ayappa temple) sabrimala is different case because deity is brahmachari, she didn't get this simple point.
Just like woman hugs the stranger woman but not the stranger man , is it gender discrimination. If a woman don't share a bed with his male friend but share a bed with woman friend. Ist a gender discrimination. I think it's the sensibility and intelligence that people need to understand.
In front of God, we all are children of God. If Ayyappa is son of Lord Easwar, then he should be our brother. Then, should not any lady go to see his brother? Is this disturbance to his brahmacharya?
If anyone can explain, please explain to develop my ideology.
I believe women of all age groups shall be allowed to enter the religious places but if they are experiencing their menstrual cycle (same as if any person is not feeling well on a certain day and chooses to stay at home) they should exempt themselves from going.
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ഹരിവരാസനം വിശ്വമോഹനം ഹരിദധീശ്വരം ആരാധ്യപാദുകം|
അരിവിമർദ്ദനം നിത്യനർത്തനം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ|| 1
ചരണകീർത്തനം ശക്തമാനസം ഭരണലോലുപം നർത്തനാലസം|
അരുണഭാസുരം ഭൂതനായകം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ || 2
പ്രണയസത്യകം പ്രാണനായകം പ്രണതകൽപ്പകം സുപ്രഭാഞ്ചിതം|
പ്രണവമന്ദിരം കീർത്തനപ്രിയം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ|| 3
തുരഗവാഹനം സുന്ദരാനനം വരഗദായുധം വേദവർണ്ണിതം|
ഗുരുകൃപാകരം കീർത്തനപ്രിയം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ|| 4
ത്രിഭുവനാർച്ചിതം ദേവതാത്മകം ത്രിനയനം പ്രഭും ദിവ്യദേശികം|
ത്രിദശപൂജിതം ചിന്തിതപ്രദം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ|| 5
ഭവഭയാപഹം ഭാവുകാവഹം ഭുവനമോഹനം ഭൂതിഭൂഷണം
ധവളവാഹനം ദിവ്യവാരണം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ || 6
കളമൃദുസ്മിതം സുന്ദരാനനം കളഭകോമളം ഗാത്രമോഹനം
കളഭകേസരീ വാജിവാഹനം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ || 7
ശ്രിതജനപ്രിയം ചിന്തിതപ്രദം ശ്രുതിവിഭൂഷണം സാധുജീവനം
ശ്രുതിമനോഹരം ഗീതലാലസം ഹരിഹരാത്മജം ദേവമാശ്രയേ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ
ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ സ്വാമി ശരണം അയ്യപ്പാ || 8
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ഹരിയും പുരഹരനും തിരുവിളയാടിയ നാളില്
പുരുതേജസ്സിലുരുവാകിയ ശബരിഗിരിവാസിന്
മമ മാനസമിരുള്ചൂഴ് കയൊരൊളിയാവുക ചേലില്
മധുസൂദനസുത, താവക ചരണം മമ ശരണം!
കലമാനുകള് കളിയാടിയ മലമേടുകളൂടേ
മദയാനകളലറുന്നൊരു വനവീഥിയിലൂടെ
പുലരിക്കതിരൊളിവീശിയ വിജനസ്ഥലിയൂടേ
വരവായ് പല ജനകോടികള് തവദര്ശനകുതുകാൽ.
കുളിരമ്പിളി തൊഴുമേ തവ മുഖമുജ്ജ്വലദീപ് തം
തളിര്മാലകള് വാഴ്ത്തും തവ ചരണാമൃതസൂക്തം
അചരങ്ങളിലുയരും വിളിയറിയും പരഗുപ്തം
അചിരാല് ചരകദനങ്ങളിലലിയും മൃദുചിത്തം.
മഴമേഘമനോഹാരിത ചൊരിയുന്നൊരു ചികുരം
കരിവണ്ടുകള് കളിയാടിയ മിഴിയാമരവിന്ദം
മണിമജ്ഞുള മകുടം തിരുവുദരം മണികണ്ഠം
മൃദുഹാസനിലാവിന്നലയൊഴുകും തിരുഗണ്ഡം.
മടുതാമരമലര്മാലകളണിയും തവ ഗാത്രം
മകരത്തിലെ മഞ്ഞിന്കുളിര് ചൊരിയും തവ നേത്രം
കലിനാശന, മഹിഷീമദദമനം തവ നടനം
അതിവിക്രമ തൊഴുതേന്, ഭവഭയഭഞ്ജകചരണം.
കനകദ്യുതിയൊഴുകു ം തവ കരകങ്കണരണനം
മുഖപങ്കജമനനം ഭവമലസഞ്ചയഹരണം
ചുരികായുധധരനാകിയ പുലിവാഹന ശരണം
വരദായക തവ ദര്ശനമരുളീടുക വേണം.
നളിനദ്വയമിഴിയും മധുചൊരിയും തിരുമൊഴിയും
വിളികേട്ടുടനണയും കൃപ വഴിയും തിരുവടിയും
തവ സേവകരണയുന്നൊരു വഴിയും, മലര്പൊഴിയും
വനിയും ഗിരിനിരയും തവ പടിയും മമ ശരണം.
തരുമാമലശിഖരങ്ങളില് മലയാനിലചലനം
കരുണാകര, തവ തൃപ്പദനടനം മദമഥനം
അരുവിക്കുളിരലമാലയിലുയരും സ്വനരണനം
ഹരിമോഹന വനദേവത ചൊരിയും തവ ഭജനം.
പതിനെട്ടു പുരാണാസ്പദ-വടിവാം തൃപ്പടിയും
അതുലം ചതുര്വ്വേദങ്ങളിലൊളിയും ചേവടിയും
സകലേശ്വര തവ മുദ്രകള് നിറയും ഇരുമുടിയും
കണികാണ്കയിലടിയങ്ങളെയുരുവേദന വെടിയും.
മഹിഷാസുരതരുണിയ്ക്കതിഭയമേകിയ രൂപം
മഹിയില് ജനകോടിക്കൊരു ശരണാഗതികേന്ദ്രം
ശബരീശ്വരവദനം, കൃപ വഴിയും സുമചരണം
അതിലെന്നുമെ മുഴുകാന് കനിവരുളീടുക വേണം.
Thank you
Please Can somebody translate above comment to english.
@@deepakrao612 Here is a translation by Mr. Veeramani S. Iyer . I am reproducing it here with the hope that he would like his work to be available to others.
English
1st stanza
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Hari varaasanam viswa mohanam
Haridha dheeswaram aaraadhya paadukam -
Ari vimardhanam nithya narthanam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
Repository of Hari’s boons, Enchanter of Universe,
Essence of Hari’s grace, He whose holy feet is worshipped,
He who kills enemies by good thought, He who daily dances the cosmic dance,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
2nd stanza
Sarana keerthanam shaktha maanasam -
Bharana lolupam narthanaalasam
Aruna bhaasuram bhootha naayakam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He who likes song of refuge,
He who is in the mind of devotees,
He who is the great ruler,
He who loves to dance,
He who shines like the rising sun, He who is king of all beings,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
3rd stanza
Pranayasathyakam Praananayakam
Pranathakalpakam Suprabhanchitham
Pranavamandiram Keerthanapriyam
Hariharathmajam Devamashraye
Sharanam Ayyappa Swamy Sharanam Ayyappa
Sharanam Ayyappa Swamy Sharanam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He whose is true love, He who is the darling of soul,
He who created universe, He who shines with a glittering halo,
He who is the temple of “OM”, He who loves songs,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord
My refuge is in you Ayyappa,
My refuge is in you Ayyappa
4th stanza
Thuraga vaahanam sundaraananam -
Vara gadhayudham Veda varnitham -
Guru Krupaakaram keerthana priyam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He who rides a horse, He who has a pretty face,
He who has the blessed mace as weapon, He who is glorified by Vedas
He who bestows grace like a teacher, He who loves songs,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord
My refuge is in you Ayyappa,
My refuge is in you Ayyappa
5th stanza
Thribhuvanarchitham Devathathmakam
Thrinayanam Prabhum Divyadeshikam
Thridashapoojitham Chinthithapradam
Hariharathmajam Devamashraye
Saranam Ayyappa Swamy Saranam
Saranam Ayyappa Swamy Saranam
Meaning:
He who is worshiped by the three worlds, He who is the soul of all gods,
He who is lord Shiva, He who resides in holy place,
He who is worshipped three times a day, He whose thought itself is fulfilling,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee, Oh Lord
My refuge is in you Ayyappa,
My refuge you Ayyappa
6th stanza
Bhava bhayaa paham bhaavu kaavaham -
Bhuvana mohanam bhoothi bhooshanam -
Dhawala vaahanam divya vaaranam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He who destroys fear, He who brings prosperity,
He who is enchanter of Universe, He who wears holy ash as ornament,
He who rides a white elephant,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
7th stanza
Kalamrudu smitham sundaraananam -
Kalabha Komalam gaathra mohanam -
Kalabha kesari vaaji vaahanam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He who blesses with enchanting smile, He who has is very pretty,
He who is adorned by sandal paste, He who has a pretty mien,
He who is a like a lion to the elephants, He who rides on a tiger,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
8th stanza
Srithajana priyam chinthitha pradam -
Sruthi vibhooshanam saadhu jeevanam -
Sruthi manoharam geetha lalasam -
Hari haraathmajam devamaasraye -
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Saranam Ayyappa Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Swaami Saranam Ayyappa
Meaning:
He who is dear to his devotees, He who fulfills wishes,
He who is praised by Vedas, He who blesses life of ascetics,
He who is the essence of Vedas, He who enjoys divine music,
Son of Hari and Hara, I take refuge in thee God
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Ayyappa Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa
My refuge is in you Swamy Ayyappa
@@DKMKartha108 are you upsc aspirant?
We should ban all ladies club, no pink busses no ladies parlor no ladies gym either hereafter.
All these public places are violating the fundamental rules of gender equality.
We men are feeling insulted and discriminated because we have
The right to go to clubs
The right to fitness for gym
The right to travel
The right for parlors
The right for gender equality everywhere
So all the public places are violating constitutional fundamental rights. So we men are requesting to ban all ladies club pink busses ladies gym ladies parlors These places are spreading untouchablilty against men
I never thought that Navika kumar would be this mandhbuddhi to not understand the simplest way said by Sadguru... Its so simple to understand .. Even that 10year old child will understand that why is she not allowed to enter the temple.. Navika pl tell me one thing, today no country allows a single Man to adopt or even foster a girl child, why??? Is it because all the govt has labeled that all men in this world are rapist hence this step.. No.. Sometimes you do take some necessary decisions just for the betterment..
One more simpler way for you Navika..
When you hv a guest at home n he is a gentleman, he respects you a lot.. You are sleeping in the your room n he enters your room n uses your washroom. Wont you b uncomfortable.. Will you still be calm about it.. Remember he respects you.. But still you will hv that feeling of invading your personal space..
They take the deity as a living N hence it can make the deity a bit uncomfortable is all they are trying to say.. Getting secularism into religion is totally hinduphobic attitude..
She should have asked J. Sai Deepak for a solid reply.
There are some temples where men are not allowed, and we respect that
Change is law of nature .. may be slow but it’s always towards perfection and more stable state ..
Well saud sadguru!
5:13 fire
Absolutely very correct...namasthe Guruji...
M not comparing both it is just wat i though There are many
me- to cases which hasbeen proved fake , here women entered due political intensiob instead blaming we should find who hasbeen encouraged those womens to enter
Well said Guru, but that Feminist is not ready to accept anything. Women 😂
Sabarimala is not just Temple Visit.. Temple visit is only a part of the complete activity of worshipper.. The people who visit this temple follow Vrata for 40 days.. its not less than Penance.. in which they follow many self-put rules, regulations and one of them is doing pooja every morning and evening.. Once they successfully complete penance these 40 days, they visit the temple..
Now women.. They obviously cannot successfully complete 40 days of Vrata because they have menstrual periods in between.. It is only possible for women / girls of certain age group..
People who do not know all these just bark about discrimination etc.. Really how many women will like to perform the rituals and enter the temple really? There are lakhs of temples in India and world.. how many temples did they really visit? If it was only to discriminate, then Temple just would have put a rule 'ALL WORSHIPPERS SHOULD ENTER THE TEMPLE WITHOUT THE TOP GARMENT' and let in any person who follow this norm.. But Temple did not do that...
God's and Goddesses are above Everything. No more Human made Laws.
she got some agenda rather than understanding the reality with some common sense.
Manusmruti? What is for women?
I like the way Navika Kumari is thinking....
😂😂😂
As of this topic I have no interest but I noticed some people mentioning #north indian ladies....are these n that....so do u think all north Indians r bad n all south Indians r good???
They will never talk about muslims culture and their rituals and reform in islam
Wow Sadhguru what a answer
No debate and all but we got hurted very much due to women entered inside sabarimala that to political intension
Just because of that are you going to kill the women???
Utter nonsense. He himself gives the toilet eg and then says let's not compare temple and toilet. This is nothing but patriarchy. If we start looking at sensitivity n sensibility of sections then no one can do anything cos everyone is sensitive about something. Even the highest court passing a judgement is a joke and gone against in this country.
The woman is confused a lot
Read the book
Women and sabarimala
Wowiwowiwoow finally someone
I feel like what most people know of this restriction is very limited.
Sadhguru tried his best to make people who are unaware of vedic sciences understand why it has come to practice.
What he said is accurate too but if we look it from a vedic science perspective all of us,especially women would be able to understand this far better, through our observations and experiences.
Modern English today has a very limited number of words to perfectly describe and make people understand ancient vedic terminologies.
If only people could understand the science that vedas offered more than 1000s of years ago, people could atleast have a little bit of idea as to why that happened and why is it still happening.
Today in this world not many people follow or rather want to understand vedic sciences. They have their minds set only with modern sciences that was found 100-200 years ago, but not the observations and findings found more than 1000 of years ago from the vedic literature and sciences.
Its fine, its their own choices but if people are trying to find explanation for phenomenon that they have no insight into from a very subatomic level, they will either call it as an abnormality or a very very rare phenomenon but they need to understand that there is another science that pre existed and already had so many answers to various diffrent questions to the phenomenon of the world and beyond.
We must all have a look at vedic sciences as we did or are doing at modern sciences.
who knows maybe you'll find a very resonating and clear understanding of why something could happen, this could open your mind.
Atleast it did to me.
Here's a link of a video posted by shri Sinu Joseph, she has studied vedic sciences pretty well and she has broken down into small bits and pieces, all those misunderstandings associated with menstruation and sabrimala temple.
If you are still reading this I highly recommend you to take time out and do watch this video with as openmindedness as possible.
Thank you 😊
ruclips.net/video/PUX9BtabQfY/видео.html
The deity too has some rights you know.
7:30 anchors argument destroyed.
Sad guru thug life 😎
Hahaha
There are lot of temples in India where men are not allowed to enter. We men respect our tradition and are following that. But all those feminists who are trying to break our culture beware god is watching you.
5:14 🔥🔥🔥
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Egg cell/ ovum ek aisi cell hai jo body k baki cells se 100 times size me badi hoti hai
Periods start hone ke baad 14th day ko leutinizing hormone ki surge ki vajah se ovary se mature hua graffian follicle niklta hai
Wo graffian follicle yani egg ko cornuae abdomenal cavity se utha lete hai aur cilliary action se fallopian tube se uterus tk pahocha dete hai
Agar tb egg fertilize (matlab 14din coitus/sex nahi kiya to) nahi hua to do din me vo egg mar jata hai
Jb tak ovary me corpus luteum hai tab tak kuch nahi hota, mara hua egg vahi uterus me pada rahta hai (upto28day)
Ab egg cell normal body cells k mukable 100bada hone ki vajah se koi phagocyte usko destroy nahi kar sakta aur uterus ke epithelium me fallopian tube jaise cilia bhi nhi hote
Fir To pura ka pura endometrium ka dehiscence chalu hota agle mahine me jb progesterone level decrease hota hai (28day complete cycle)
Degenerative enzymes jo endometrium k epithelium k cells k lysozome k andar hote hai wo egg aur pura endometrium aur blood vessels destroy karte hai
Matlab Endometrium k sath sath uske andar ka sara vasculature destroy hota jiski vajah se bleeding hoti hai
Ab ye jo blood hai wo body ka normal blood hai
Utna hi normal jitna kise aam mard ya jiska period nahi chal raha hai aise aurat ka
Aurat mard ek saman hai aur during periods pad laga ke (because we live where we have already invented sanitary pad) aurat mandir ho ya jo bhi waha jaa sakti hai
Ab Samze!
Tumne sirf process samjhaya he. Baki kahan gayi? Menstruation se blood loss nhi hota kya. Sabarimala ko ghoorne ke liye bhakto ko ek criteria fulfil krna hota hain. 41 days fasting! Matlab at least 1 or 2 times of menstruation. Socho- 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case. Result hoga kamzori or death bhi kyon ki fasting krna parta he 41 days mandir me. Yeh koi tourist attraction samaj ke rakha he kya? Srf bhakt aate he yaha. Women of age range 10 to 50 are prescribed not to enter the temple and not restricted. Ek pregnant woman thi jo zabardasti ghusne par utaaru thi. Uski mandir me hi death ho gayi.
Hypocrisy of Sadhguru exposed
Super
Sadhguru sigma
Our legislative system tells us that by jallikattu people do atrocity on animals I wanna ask them a simple question that is bakra eid is an animal loving festival
They make rules on hindus whether it's about jallikattu,Diwali or Sabrimala they tell us women can't enter into that temple because of our gender inequality but they don't say it on Navrata when we worship only 9 girl children not a single boy that's their hypocrisy they don't talk why women can't enter Mosques why even in 21st century a lot of women are in veiled why still in some communities women genital mutilation is going on and they can't do anything on it because their parents did it
The interviewer is weak and unprepared.
Navika is amazing 🙌🙌🙌.what kind of conversation..
In the name of women discrimination, they are doing anything it should be avoided..
We should ban all ladies club, no pink busses no ladies parlor no ladies gym either hereafter.
All these public places are violating the fundamental rules of gender equality.
We men are feeling insulted and discriminated because we have
The right to go to clubs
The right to fitness for gym
The right to travel
The right for parlors
The right for gender equality everywhere
So all the public places are violating constitutional fundamental rights. So we men are requesting to ban all ladies club pink busses ladies gym ladies parlors These places are spreading untouchablilty against men
Agreed
Anchor justifies the stereotype
This lady need to know the meaning of Bhramchari and Bhramchariya
What the hell she is talking ?
That lady interviewer doesn't know the meaning of Brahmachraya....she didnt do her homework well
Lady....how can u say its gender discrimination...women are allowed its not discrimination.
The opening argument by this woman does generalize the entire group of homosapiens. 😂😂😂
its actually more than that, pls watch Sinu Josheph's video and you will get it's idea better!
I personally did not support the sabarimala system, but there is a more scientifical explanation for why it is followed, so I don't support the system but science is something else. If a woman is fine with going there knowing the biological problems, let her because it's her choice, but it's just that they will face issues (not stupid social issues, but real biological issues).
It ain't about tradition, I don't support all that tradition arguement. But the part which is overlooked is the scientific effect it has on women, so that's all.
(btw I don't supports fools over the internet saying *Athiests should not decide a temple's tradition*)
I am not that typical Hindu/religionist trying to protect his/her culture. I'm only speaking about facts, I personally still find it hard that women can't enter, but when they face problems, you know it's better they stay away for their *biological safety*.
Thank You!
edit : I am a proud feminist, who understands feminism, and personally don't think this has much to do with it. SO, STOP! stop blaming and mistreating feminists, they are better people than other typical males/females and other genders surely. My respect to all feminists who understands it well!
also, Feminists could be of any gender
Its not about doing everything .. its about doing right things.. the psedos are ruining it for everyone 🙄
Some people who thinks they are genius cant even understand this simple logic lol
Simple whoever this lady is, she has no dignity questioning about the sentiments of the temple traditions.
She is bent up on fighting for so called rights
Agnihotra yajna, which is called Mahayajna or in simple terms: Yajna of all yajnas, was performed by both men and women everyday. Women performed this yajna and all yajnas even on their periods. Rishikas like Romasha, Juhu, Lopamudra, Vishwawara,etc. did immense tapas and performed such "occult" practices even in their periods. With no scriptural reference can u ever prove menstruation to be a taboo in Hinduism. It is as respected as Brahmacharya, coz it continues procreation. Girls entering puberty and having first period, are celebrated, venerated with drums and cornets on Rajo. We even worship the vagina of a menstruating Goddess. So people who are claiming that women shouldn't enter temples or do pujas just for periods are totally SHIT. Yes, Swami Ayappa is a Nimbaka Brahmachari for which the other sex is not allowed to be within his vicinity. That is okay. That is his privacy and I respect that. But in other temples and practices where women aren't allowed just for their periods, is totally CRAP. You can't give me any reference from Vedas or Shastras for such irrationality
He is not ready to make a valid statement..............Just beating around the bush........
Not beating about the bush. The real reason is again mentioned by him. 41 days fasting is a mandate to fulfill prior to visiting Sabarimala. How would a woman in her reproductive age do that? At least 1 or 2 times of menstruation. 5 or 6 days of loss of blood in each case that would result in weakness. A pregnant woman who was trying to enter the temple died there. Women of age range 10 to 50 are prescribed not to enter the temple, not restricted. How come that pregnant women enter if she'd been restricted?
God is western ideology not Indian
Our supreme court proved that why Jakki is wrong or say prejudice....but yes he is a good manipulative person
In last she agree that she is pseudo feminist
Remember these deity are created by men in old days. And there is infact a clear discrimination based in this issue. And there is a whataboutism questions of how islam trears woman. First you correct your own religion then everyone will follow.