Great review, I would be definitely pairing this with either a Kinekt or byschulz parallelogram for a massive rider enjoyment upgrade. The adjustable steering column also, just like on the Load! I love that feature, especially for shared bikes.
Great for food delivery, pharmacy maybe even auto parts. If the Batt is easily removed one can be charging while one is on the bike. The adjustable components work for that as the next shift rider would be bigger or smaller. Easy or no shifting good for delivery too!
@@EbuzzNYC more thinking a company that supply's the vehicle. It is good marketing as tons of people are going to prefer a company that has a smaller carbon footprint. Not me I just bought an 8cyl pu truck! But it would be money well spent even if they could only use it 180 days a year in NYC
I have a Tern GSD S10 (gen 1) that is almost 4 years old. We've got almost 8000 miles on it but have been thinking about upgrading to one with a better motor plus the suspension fork. For awhile I was thinking the newer generation GSD S00 LX but after seeing this one, I think this is the one! It's gorgeous and I love all the thoughtful details. Now just waiting for my local shop (The Cargo Bike Shop Madison) to get theirs in for a test ride.
I really hope that the prices can eventually come down on some of these products. Unfortunately, there’s a big push to continue to go further and further with the technology. I think there’s an opportunity to focus more on scaling it right now and bringing prices down.
I want it , what is it ? :) love everything about it . The future of 'moving stuff' . Thanks for the great content Propel, really enjoying your channel since I bought my new ebike.
thx -- looks nice & useful but hmm the front rack seems unneccessarily weak to me, with all the possible weight that's possible on the rear axle, plus i wonder if that charging port is properly weather resistant i.e. e.g. ice or rain creeping in and the adjustable steering column ist great, but how solid are the pins, that take up a lot of the stress - ?
Great looking bike. Love the features and the design. However, couldn't see spending $7000+ on an e-bike. I am on the market for an alternative transportation to a car. A Vespa 250 or 300 for about $8000 or a micro e-car for around $10,000 would be better options. To work for me, the price of the cargo bike, with similar features, would have to be around $4000 tops.
Definitely fair points! I think the price point isn’t for everyone, but it’s a solid eBike nonetheless. There are some less expensive cargo bikes out there like the one mentioned above, so don’t lose hope
I realize that you are likely reluctant to choose a clear favorite between the Tern GSD and this one but would you be able to highlight features which you think differentiate the two?
i feel like this stuff is all great, and the tech is great, but they are going against the GSD. the only reason most people go with the GSD is the clubhouse fort. even if they don't get it, they have the option for it. I'm sure this is probably technically better than the GSD with the latest stuff, but the GSD is already good enough. all R&M need to do is make something like the clubhouse fort for people to see it as a car replacement.
The sad thing with Propei you don't have Tinker batteries for hire as we travel with both our R&M Tinkers from New Zealand. If I buy 2 batteries from your LA store and use them for the whole month July 2023 Would you send both these batteries to your New York store for July 2024 next year & back to your LA store for our friends to drop off & pick up.
Looks like a AWESOME bike! Thanks for video. I do see an issue coming down the road, china is starting to put out low cost EV cars. Recent one is going for $9,000 US 4 door 150 mile compact car. It's not going to be shipped over seas for another year or so, but still when you see some of the Muller Box bikes costing more than that I worry the surge in EV bikes is going to go down. Which would be terrible, as they are a pathway to a better quality of life.
I know you guys dont sell oa lot of the lower end products (Aventon, Lectric, etc) but it would be good to hear your comparitive reviews and thoughts...i know uts hard case to make since oyu woudl have to buy outright and no potential for sales generation, but a guy can hope you know, lol
I would like to do that. I do wonder if we can do it effectively. I definitely have thoughts and at times I feel limited since we are a retailer and some may feel we are biased. But I think everyone is biased in some way
2 things Chris 1). I need a test ride one of these-your Long Beach shop is closest for me. My concern is with all of the adjustments, the bike would feel " loose" or "not solid" 2). I would really want to have the high speed mid-drive motor. In fact, if this bike IS SOLID, and the high speed motor can be installed, I will park 2 in my garage. Can that happen Chris?
The mount points on the sides of the headset for racks... I hava an Okai EB50 with similar mount points and I have been searching for racks that mount to it... any place you could point to to try and match those mount points to a rack? I saw a few in this video
Bike seems great, and comparisson with Tern GSD should be interresting. But, where can you attach a D lock or a chain to secure this bike ??? And it's a pitty that Rohloff seems not to be compatible with latest Bosch systems.
Very interesting bike and good to see R&M coming out with an 20 inch cargo bike. I am big fan of R&M - the family has both a Load 75 and a Multicharger - but one thing continues to baffle me. Why do they always supply their bikes with that useless 1$ warning bell? It hardly makes a sound on a good day and if it's wet it makes no sound at all. A weird choice to put in front of the eyes of a customer that has spent several thousand dollars on a top of the line bike.
Maybe because they don’t want to create noise pollution with their bikes in cities. Cycling and e-biking significantly diminish noise pollution in urban settings and they created a bell or horn with high quality loud sound it’ll pollute urban centers with noise that cities are trying to reduce.
Agree with the bell it's only suitable for not frightening children and the elderly! However, traffic indicators and an electric horn are essential for road use. I speak as someone who has decorated a car hood and also had two pedestrians doing the same to my cycle.
@@oddball7483 as some one who has been thrown off my e-bike going 17 mph being hit by a car. No amount of lights, bells, whistles, driver education would have done anything to prevent me getting plowed over… cycling infrastructure with separated bike lanes are the only answer.
Is it possible to lock this bike safely with a chain? It looks like there is no way to attach a chain safely in the front, and with the cain guard on not in the back either?
@@Propelbikes thanks for the quick reply. In your opinion is the newer gen Bosch equipment and phone integration a compelling reason to choose the R&M over the Tern. I have only heard about it, never seen it.
I think you should do a side-by-side comparison with the Tern GSD. Actually i don't see much reason to prefer the R&M. Also, the coil fork is a bit of a disappointment.
That’s a fair point. It’s been brought up recently and I have no problem not using that name. I guess it boils down to the intent. But I think this is a point well taken and something I’ll think more on
It'd be difficult for me to critically compare models and brands if I was selling both. Probably why I'm not in sales. Chris I've said it before you're super good at what you do and we need you to keep doing it for many reasons. Review? Yes it's a still a review but I don't know what else you could call it without time filling disclaimers.
The tires that come on the bike actually have a considerable amount of puncture protection. Often times people do choose to put Tannus tire liners in there to reduce the flat chances even further.
I just purchased a slightly used (90 miles) Gazelle 380 plus thst has a belt drive, Bosch mid drive CVT for $3,200. There is nothing this German company offers that is not on the Gazelle.
I owned two Gazelle bikes, including the C380 plus. I sold mine and bought the Multitinker--its totally different ride. I got the sport tires. The gazelle is a great bike and its lighter but the Multitinker is a long tail cargo, it has weight capacity of 450lbs, its low to the ground and has 20 inch tires with a totally different center of gravity and can haul heavy loads and adult passengers. The battery on the Multtitinker is also larger at 650w.
Tern GSD Knockoff!! That bike is definitely a knockoff of my Tern GSD. I suppose that’s a compliment to Tern, but the Riese and Muller geometry looks a bit awkward compared to a GSD.
I think Tern did a great job of defining the 20” cargo bike market and I think both of these bikes have their strengths. R&M is certainly no stranger to compact or cargo bikes so it’s a pretty natural addition to their line if you ask me.
R&M builds their bikes to a different standard and they use many premium and custom parts. it all adds up, but there are definitely some cheaper options out there if you’re on a tighter budget
Straight to the buzzkill. ... Still over $10k CDN kitted out before taxes, not the Honda Civic of ebikes. ... Though new Civic Type Rs seem to be going for $80k CDN, so everything's expensive now.
Have a read of my reply to @r.d.9399 in the comments. Basically went from two cars to one, sold my diesel Prado. Has worked out perfect over the last 5 years😎
@@TaisToiRQ I commute by bicycle and have another bike set up with front and rear baskets for shopping, but if I want to carry something large or transport passengers, I have a van just for that purpose; it's only worth around 1k and costs very little to maintain, actually cheaper than buying a cargo bike and frankly, far more useful.
I think this is a fair point, it’s definitely capable of carrying more weight and it’s a more developed product. I love both of the bikes and would recommend each of them differently for different scenarios
@@Propelbikes and better accessories. Thanks for the channel. I recently bought a tern gsd from propel and got to meet your dad as he delivered to us in the DC area.
@@Propelbikes my 3 year old loves it. His new favorite thing is to be in a pope mobile and being ridden around. Hopefully soon the paths by use will be opened so we can finally take him to day care in it. Also glad your father and the other person got some good crab cakes in Baltimore. It was a pleasure to deal with everyone at propel. We already have neighbors very interested in the bike.
This bike is not meant for the likes of you or I. It is meant for the children of oil executives, whose other vehicle in the garage might be a Mercedes AMG SL 63, or maybe a cheap BMW XM, so they can show their wealthy neighbors how "green" they are as they stop by the Carmel Farmers Market to pick up some locally sourced organic Pink Oyster mushrooms and a bottle of Napa Valley Screaming Eagle Cabernet on their way to their vintage reproduction sailboat trimmed with ethically-sourced teak. If you don't know the name of the person who sewed your organic hemp cargo pants, this is not your bike. If my goal in life were to get as many Americans as possible into e-bikes as viable transportation alternatives, I'd have a really tough time finding space in my showroom for these.
Key in on what he said about their sourcing and manufacturing. This is what a bike costs when you make it with German labor instead of Chinese slave labor 🤷🏽 Not so much about what "they think this is worth", but just realistically what it costs. Also, Riese & Muller sell plenty of bikes, so plenty of people find it worth that.
@@47f0 I think your point has some merit, saltier than needed and also lacks the idea that every new product is expensive because of economies of scale. The number of honda supercubs made, just no comparison.
@@libraryofpapel - The Honda Cub is an interesting example, because it is precisely counter to the notion of scale economics exhibited in the Riese & Müller bike. I had, and rode the wheels off of one of the original Honda Cubs - it was built by a small island nation with very few natural resources (other than WWII scrap metal) and a manufacturing infrastructure that only a decade and a half prior had been bombed back to the level of a high-school shop class. It was designed, manufactured, marketed and distributed precisely to leverage economies of scale. That is the opposite of the concept behind the R&M e-bike. The R&M e-bike is not expensive due to anything that's all that new - or even especially unique. It's not trying to hit the Rad RadWagon or even the Specialized Globe Haul ST market - it's not shooting for economies of scale - it's after folks who can afford Gwyneth Paltrow candles - and actually buy them.
Great review, I would be definitely pairing this with either a Kinekt or byschulz parallelogram for a massive rider enjoyment upgrade. The adjustable steering column also, just like on the Load! I love that feature, especially for shared bikes.
Totally agree!
@@Propelbikesany chance of a review on Byschulz suspension dropper? Thinking of getting one for my Super Delite 🤕
Great for food delivery, pharmacy maybe even auto parts. If the Batt is easily removed one can be charging while one is on the bike. The adjustable components work for that as the next shift rider would be bigger or smaller. Easy or no shifting good for delivery too!
Certainly could be!
for $7,000, most people that would be working in delivery would not be able to afford it. They usually ride around in Arrows in NYC.
Way too expensive. Better off buying a used car or a new moped.
@@EbuzzNYC more thinking a company that supply's the vehicle. It is good marketing as tons of people are going to prefer a company that has a smaller carbon footprint. Not me I just bought an 8cyl pu truck! But it would be money well spent even if they could only use it 180 days a year in NYC
@@r.d.9399 See the comment below!
or a 'step-thru' frame. Love your videos. I'll be looking for a new ebike next year and the Riese and Muller ones really have my attention.
I have a Tern GSD S10 (gen 1) that is almost 4 years old. We've got almost 8000 miles on it but have been thinking about upgrading to one with a better motor plus the suspension fork. For awhile I was thinking the newer generation GSD S00 LX but after seeing this one, I think this is the one! It's gorgeous and I love all the thoughtful details. Now just waiting for my local shop (The Cargo Bike Shop Madison) to get theirs in for a test ride.
We held off on a Tern for that reason
Coz we thought it was under powered...
8:55 mark - I live on an island. Yeah, buy a couple of locks because it it is amazing just how far they CAN get.
Excellent walkthrough Chris. Reminds me of your review of the Super Delight once upon a time. 🤗
Thanks as always Andrew!
I love your videos, and the bikes you sell are THE BEST, but very expensive. I'll talk to you when my daughter's out of college
I really hope that the prices can eventually come down on some of these products. Unfortunately, there’s a big push to continue to go further and further with the technology. I think there’s an opportunity to focus more on scaling it right now and bringing prices down.
I want it , what is it ? :) love everything about it . The future of 'moving stuff' . Thanks for the great content Propel, really enjoying your channel since I bought my new ebike.
Fantastic review with great information. Looks like a superb bike. On the bucket list for me.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really great overview! Thanks for highlighting another great cargo bike option from R&M!!
Thanks for watching!
thx -- looks nice & useful but hmm the front rack seems unneccessarily weak to me, with all the possible weight that's possible on the rear axle, plus i wonder if that charging port is properly weather resistant i.e. e.g. ice or rain creeping in and the adjustable steering column ist great, but how solid are the pins, that take up a lot of the stress - ?
R&M are solid. I've bought two.
This bike would be perfect with a Rohloff. Have R&M given you any clues yet @propelbikes regarding Rohloff going into their new Bosch systems?
I cant wait also the one i order from you guys the Load4 75 Vario HS…
Awesome! Thanks for the support! That bike is awesome!
🤓 Excellent review.🤓 Could we have a comparison between R&M, Tern and Yuba? They all have a similar longtail model. Cheers!
Please
Great looking bike. Love the features and the design. However, couldn't see spending $7000+ on an e-bike. I am on the market for an alternative transportation to a car. A Vespa 250 or 300 for about $8000 or a micro e-car for around $10,000 would be better options. To work for me, the price of the cargo bike, with similar features, would have to be around $4000 tops.
Look at the aventon abound
Definitely fair points! I think the price point isn’t for everyone, but it’s a solid eBike nonetheless. There are some less expensive cargo bikes out there like the one mentioned above, so don’t lose hope
Check out a tern Quick Haul or HSD then!
Really like this - it's a bit like the Tern GSD. Would really like to see the accessories as they really make these bikes shine.
You can see some more of the accessories in the video I did with them at Eurobike
@@Propelbikes thanks, I missed that, will take a look!
I love my Tern GSD and the dealer in Tucson AZ had plenty of accessories and I chose the dog house that I mainly use for groceries.
I realize that you are likely reluctant to choose a clear favorite between the Tern GSD and this one but would you be able to highlight features which you think differentiate the two?
Great review of a magnificent and versitile e-bike
Thanks!
i feel like this stuff is all great, and the tech is great, but they are going against the GSD. the only reason most people go with the GSD is the clubhouse fort. even if they don't get it, they have the option for it.
I'm sure this is probably technically better than the GSD with the latest stuff, but the GSD is already good enough. all R&M need to do is make something like the clubhouse fort for people to see it as a car replacement.
Agree. Wife wants a dog box option.
The sad thing with Propei you don't have Tinker batteries for hire as we travel with both our R&M Tinkers from New Zealand. If I buy 2 batteries from your LA store and use them for the whole month July 2023 Would you send both these batteries to your New York store for July 2024 next year & back to your LA store for our friends to drop off & pick up.
Shoot us an email Dean, I bet we can make something work for you.
@@Propelbikeswonder what the market will be for this in the years to come?
Looks like a AWESOME bike! Thanks for video. I do see an issue coming down the road, china is starting to put out low cost EV cars. Recent one is going for $9,000 US 4 door 150 mile compact car. It's not going to be shipped over seas for another year or so, but still when you see some of the Muller Box bikes costing more than that I worry the surge in EV bikes is going to go down. Which would be terrible, as they are a pathway to a better quality of life.
I know you guys dont sell oa lot of the lower end products (Aventon, Lectric, etc) but it would be good to hear your comparitive reviews and thoughts...i know uts hard case to make since oyu woudl have to buy outright and no potential for sales generation, but a guy can hope you know, lol
I would like to do that. I do wonder if we can do it effectively. I definitely have thoughts and at times I feel limited since we are a retailer and some may feel we are biased. But I think everyone is biased in some way
With the dropper it looked like footage from Ross 😅
Can you stand the bike on it's end for storage and maintenance like the Tern?
I have watched a few reviews and that has not been mentioned in any of them.
It is worth more, because we also stay in a healthy condition, and it is less poluting
2 things Chris 1). I need a test ride one of these-your Long Beach shop is closest for me. My concern is with all of the adjustments, the bike would feel " loose" or "not solid" 2). I would really want to have the high speed mid-drive motor. In fact, if this bike IS SOLID, and the high speed motor can be installed, I will park 2 in my garage. Can that happen Chris?
The mount points on the sides of the headset for racks... I hava an Okai EB50 with similar mount points and I have been searching for racks that mount to it... any place you could point to to try and match those mount points to a rack? I saw a few in this video
Bike seems great, and comparisson with Tern GSD should be interresting.
But, where can you attach a D lock or a chain to secure this bike ???
And it's a pitty that Rohloff seems not to be compatible with latest Bosch systems.
I think will likely see the Rohloff E14 with the smart system next year
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Great Review 🚲👀
Thanks! 👍
Very interesting bike and good to see R&M coming out with an 20 inch cargo bike. I am big fan of R&M - the family has both a Load 75 and a Multicharger - but one thing continues to baffle me. Why do they always supply their bikes with that useless 1$ warning bell? It hardly makes a sound on a good day and if it's wet it makes no sound at all. A weird choice to put in front of the eyes of a customer that has spent several thousand dollars on a top of the line bike.
Maybe because they don’t want to create noise pollution with their bikes in cities. Cycling and e-biking significantly diminish noise pollution in urban settings and they created a bell or horn with high quality loud sound it’ll pollute urban centers with noise that cities are trying to reduce.
Great points and considerations from both of you. I guess they think of them like pedals, easily swappable to your preferred ones
Agree with the bell it's only suitable for not frightening children and the elderly! However, traffic indicators and an electric horn are essential for road use. I speak as someone who has decorated a car hood and also had two pedestrians doing the same to my cycle.
@@oddball7483 as some one who has been thrown off my e-bike going 17 mph being hit by a car. No amount of lights, bells, whistles, driver education would have done anything to prevent me getting plowed over… cycling infrastructure with separated bike lanes are the only answer.
Ha ha yes the first thing I did on both of my R&M's was to change the bell. Everything else is fine😃
Is it possible to lock this bike safely with a chain? It looks like there is no way to attach a chain safely in the front, and with the cain guard on not in the back either?
Wondering the same thing.
it comes with a cafe lock ---Abus Cafe Bike Lock + Abus 6ks Chain
Any options for connecting trailers to it, like the Tern GSD has?
Yes, there is a R&M universal hitch adapter available , that bolts to the left rearend
Looks like a great bike. Curious about size. Is this roughly the same size as the HSD? Little larger?
Should be the same size as the GSD, so a bit bigger than the HSD.
How does this compare with the Tern GSD?
The GSD is capable of carrying more weight and has a larger battery capacity capability. I think both of them are solid choices though
@@Propelbikes thanks for the quick reply. In your opinion is the newer gen Bosch equipment and phone integration a compelling reason to choose the R&M over the Tern. I have only heard about it, never seen it.
I wonder if that front rack would fit on my 2023 Aventon Abound ?
I'm wondering about the panniers too. The Abound panniers don't work with kids on the back.
Doesn't market in Singapore how can i have its
I think you should do a side-by-side comparison with the Tern GSD. Actually i don't see much reason to prefer the R&M. Also, the coil fork is a bit of a disappointment.
Hey Chris @propelbikes not sure if you do side by side reviews but that would be appreciated.
Wheel base?
Orange colour can it request if bought the bike
How is a Weight?
Nevo is my favorite RS bike
The Nevo is a personal favorite of mind too, but the Load tops the list for me
I like your videos, including this one. However, if you sell the bike in your store is it really a "review"?
That’s a fair point. It’s been brought up recently and I have no problem not using that name. I guess it boils down to the intent. But I think this is a point well taken and something I’ll think more on
It'd be difficult for me to critically compare models and brands if I was selling both. Probably why I'm not in sales. Chris I've said it before you're super good at what you do and we need you to keep doing it for many reasons. Review? Yes it's a still a review but I don't know what else you could call it without time filling disclaimers.
This bike looks cool ;-)
I WAS going To Ask Abot Puncture protection?
The tires that come on the bike actually have a considerable amount of puncture protection. Often times people do choose to put Tannus tire liners in there to reduce the flat chances even further.
do they do none electric? a lot of these ebike would just be stolen where i live.
I just purchased a slightly used (90 miles) Gazelle 380 plus thst has a belt drive, Bosch mid drive CVT for $3,200.
There is nothing this German company offers that is not on the Gazelle.
I owned two Gazelle bikes, including the C380 plus. I sold mine and bought the Multitinker--its totally different ride. I got the sport tires. The gazelle is a great bike and its lighter but the Multitinker is a long tail cargo, it has weight capacity of 450lbs, its low to the ground and has 20 inch tires with a totally different center of gravity and can haul heavy loads and adult passengers. The battery on the Multtitinker is also larger at 650w.
can't get it in TAIWAN . . . . . . although most part are made here
Do you know when R&M will be shipping bikes with ABS?
I think they are starting in Europe, but it will be at least another year in the Us
@@Propelbikes do you know if this is something that can be added pretty easily at a later time?
This looks more like a multi-passenger bike than a cargo bike
Tern GSD Knockoff!!
That bike is definitely a knockoff of my Tern GSD. I suppose that’s a compliment to Tern, but the Riese and Muller geometry looks a bit awkward compared to a GSD.
I think Tern did a great job of defining the 20” cargo bike market and I think both of these bikes have their strengths. R&M is certainly no stranger to compact or cargo bikes so it’s a pretty natural addition to their line if you ask me.
Are there any cargo ebike that has regen braking?
Seriously, how many Canadians have the ability to buy a ten thousand dollar bike? Probably only the very well-off.
how much
It’s about $7000. Not cheap for a bike but a lot cheaper than a car.
Why is it so expensive?
R&M builds their bikes to a different standard and they use many premium and custom parts. it all adds up, but there are definitely some cheaper options out there if you’re on a tighter budget
What is the IP rating?
This is rated to IP67
@@Propelbikes Outstanding, thanks!
$7,000
Straight to the buzzkill. ... Still over $10k CDN kitted out before taxes, not the Honda Civic of ebikes. ... Though new Civic Type Rs seem to be going for $80k CDN, so everything's expensive now.
😬
It literally costs the same amount as that new Metacycle from Sondors lmao, which packs far more power.
Great but too expansive
🇧🇷?
Elephant in the room - its an Expensive copy of a Tern GSD
These sell for around 10 grand in Australia.. rich persons toy.
Have a read of my reply to @r.d.9399 in the comments. Basically went from two cars to one, sold my diesel Prado. Has worked out perfect over the last 5 years😎
@@TaisToiRQ I commute by bicycle and have another bike set up with front and rear baskets for shopping, but if I want to carry something large or transport passengers, I have a van just for that purpose; it's only worth around 1k and costs very little to maintain, actually cheaper than buying a cargo bike and frankly, far more useful.
Some good ideas but tern has way better execution of this style cargo bike
I think this is a fair point, it’s definitely capable of carrying more weight and it’s a more developed product. I love both of the bikes and would recommend each of them differently for different scenarios
@@Propelbikes and better accessories. Thanks for the channel. I recently bought a tern gsd from propel and got to meet your dad as he delivered to us in the DC area.
Thanks Evan! I thought that was you! Thanks for your support! I hope you’re enjoying the bike!
@@Propelbikes my 3 year old loves it. His new favorite thing is to be in a pope mobile and being ridden around. Hopefully soon the paths by use will be opened so we can finally take him to day care in it. Also glad your father and the other person got some good crab cakes in Baltimore. It was a pleasure to deal with everyone at propel. We already have neighbors very interested in the bike.
Holy crap, they copied the Aventon Abound!
Pretty sure it's the other way around
10'000 euro's !!!!
I can't believe they think this is worth more than a moped or motorcycle. Absolutely ridiculous price.
This bike is not meant for the likes of you or I.
It is meant for the children of oil executives, whose other vehicle in the garage might be a Mercedes AMG SL 63, or maybe a cheap BMW XM, so they can show their wealthy neighbors how "green" they are as they stop by the Carmel Farmers Market to pick up some locally sourced organic Pink Oyster mushrooms and a bottle of Napa Valley Screaming Eagle Cabernet on their way to their vintage reproduction sailboat trimmed with ethically-sourced teak. If you don't know the name of the person who sewed your organic hemp cargo pants, this is not your bike.
If my goal in life were to get as many Americans as possible into e-bikes as viable transportation alternatives, I'd have a really tough time finding space in my showroom for these.
Key in on what he said about their sourcing and manufacturing. This is what a bike costs when you make it with German labor instead of Chinese slave labor 🤷🏽 Not so much about what "they think this is worth", but just realistically what it costs.
Also, Riese & Muller sell plenty of bikes, so plenty of people find it worth that.
@@47f0 I think your point has some merit, saltier than needed and also lacks the idea that every new product is expensive because of economies of scale. The number of honda supercubs made, just no comparison.
@@libraryofpapel - The Honda Cub is an interesting example, because it is precisely counter to the notion of scale economics exhibited in the Riese & Müller bike.
I had, and rode the wheels off of one of the original Honda Cubs - it was built by a small island nation with very few natural resources (other than WWII scrap metal) and a manufacturing infrastructure that only a decade and a half prior had been bombed back to the level of a high-school shop class.
It was designed, manufactured, marketed and distributed precisely to leverage economies of scale. That is the opposite of the concept behind the R&M e-bike.
The R&M e-bike is not expensive due to anything that's all that new - or even especially unique. It's not trying to hit the Rad RadWagon or even the Specialized Globe Haul ST market - it's not shooting for economies of scale - it's after folks who can afford Gwyneth Paltrow candles - and actually buy them.
@@milesmccall2301 Boom!
no tara?