Thanks for putting this together! One thing - your chart where at 6:30 is a little confusing when you just say "1" instead of "1 on 1." I had to go to wowhead to make sure I was doing that part right. Really appreciate this!
I think the advice to reset can create a bug, as mentioned below. I did it, then had no rats whatsoever. I unlocked it by putting a statue on the P4 and submitted. It worked and I had no catacomb rats for the whole puzzle!
If you go to the room behind Enigmatic Door in the felcycle room that we just unlocked by this, i can see new small orb on the 10th pillar (the Red Button one)
I dont understand. You said in STEP4: "For the third lock I had 7 rats, so I need 1 statue on pad 7". But in the table in case of 7 rats it says just 1. How did you know that it should be 1 statue on 7th pad? How can I be sure that in my case of 8 rats for 3rd lock I need 4 objects on 7th pad? Or what pad? Or I should refer to the table with the number 4 and use its mapping? Could you please explain?
So, by using the table at 06:20 you can see that for the first lock, if you have 7 rats you need to put 1 statue on pad 7. Then you need to submit, and do the same for the second lock. And here you need to refer to the second column in the table.
@@thraungaming824 Maybe I explained badly. I got the sequence, but I have question about 3rd table. What should I do in case of 8 rats using 3rd table? It says just 4.
i keep getting to 3 or 4 and the no matter the chart it all resets back to step one, about to throw my computer out of my window, any advice? maybe this chart isnt completed??
Hey thanks for the video. I only don't understand what should be done, for example if on my 3rd run I have 7 rats. On your table it just says 1, no number oof statues mentioned. What does it mean?
You remove the statues from the previous pad, then kill/count the normal “Rats” don’t count the catacomb ones. Then once you’ve placed your statues on the new pad, submit and do it again, until all the locks have been unlocked.
In the chart spaces which don’t specify how many statues on a pad, is it only 1 statue for those? Also, Thank you for putting these guides out there for people to try and understand.
the third lock keeps failing over and over. cant be me, i go over the whole place multiple times just to see if there are more rats or catacombs rats appearing out of no where.
There's a weak aura that has been created to help with the rat counting and the indicating of which solution you should have. Apprently I'm not allowed to link it. Better to triple check on your rat kills, I just failed at the 6th lock. Don't forget to check the stairs and they sometimes clip through walls. And now I'm stuck myself as I can't open up the door to the arcane room. I'm assuming the Arcane Device with the bejeweled game has something to do with it ?
it opened the vault door and theres a portal that reacts to the torch but i have no idea what to do now, also with the goggles on the owel chest statue thing is glowing but its still locked
I once got the message that a mechanism is unlocked but then I made a mistake. When I start again do I do it from table 1? Also, after leaving the catacomb and re-entering I hit Start and then Submitand it electrocutes me...
@@thraungaming824 Please I hope you're able to answer this. I enter the dungeon after resetting. I clear the non important rats, then I hit Begin. Nothing happens. No rats. So I do what others are saying and just put a random statue or submit and fail then Begin again. Once I do that then the rats appear. But when I start from lock 1, it fails every time even with the right statue. What do I do since failing one time you said to reset the instance but I'm forced to fail first to get rats to appear
@alexmoreno4310 honestly I'm not sure why this bug is happening. When I did it this morning I didn't have this issue, and always had rats even after resetting the instance..
I think that Bejeweled game will be in a future step, for this step that’s not required, the only thing we have to do for this is place the #of statues on each pad in accordance with how many Rats were counted each time. The statue will follow you through the gate with the teleport item.
Macro for the rats. I wish there was a addon/macro to count them each round /target Rat /run SetRaidTarget("target",8) /cleartarget [help] /stopmacro [noexists][dead] /ping [@target]
ok. to begin slick on EM/begin/submit Rd 1 begin kill rats set stutes click submit. Got the Mglass. Round two: clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked submit. Round 3 Clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked on submit got zapped. why I have done this like 5 times and keep getting zapped on the 3rd round. The statues are in the right place i killed all the rats and I mean ALL the rats. Why do I get zapped on the 3rd round?
Ok I unlocked it by putting a statue on a mechanism and submit, it seems to reset the thing but that does not count as an unlock. Strange then I didn't had catacomb rats for the whole puzzle (which is not bad)!
How the F was this solved? The amount of variables and time to try each one make this a mammoth task even for a brute forcing community! Anything to do with all those quests unflagged / flagged messages in your chat log?
I was in the discord last night. The guy that solved it had a spreadsheet where he, based on the rat theory, mapped each pressure plate to Success or Fail depending on nr of existing rats and statues needed. After a while a pattern emerged and then he solved it.
@@samuelllooking at the table there does appear to be a pattern. Just the amount of variables, plus time spent dragging statues and resetting the instance must have made it inordinately time consuming for one person to come up with. That they did it in an evening.. I think with these secrets I’m more interested in how things are solved, and more so what the in game content is in terms of clues and puzzles. Brute forcing it, however that s done, seems like the result of bad puzzle design
@ I did not know that the wicker pup couldn’t die and be resurrected during the battle or it would fail. I was using him in position number one and letting him die before switching pets so I kept winning and winning and winning and I wouldn’t get the quest. It took me forever to figure it out.
Thanks for putting this together!
One thing - your chart where at 6:30 is a little confusing when you just say "1" instead of "1 on 1." I had to go to wowhead to make sure I was doing that part right.
Really appreciate this!
got to number 3, had 9 rats. Didnt know how many statues to put on pad 7 so I tried one statue. Not the answer. Is this chart incomplete?
Same question
Very helpful..thanks! getting closer n closer! see ya on the next.
I think the advice to reset can create a bug, as mentioned below. I did it, then had no rats whatsoever. I unlocked it by putting a statue on the P4 and submitted. It worked and I had no catacomb rats for the whole puzzle!
@@leaverpool8059 weird.. I didn't get that but even after reset many times the catacombes
i got that too
Thanks for this. @Thraun Gaming are there no 9 Oclock guides out yet? I havent seen any yet. :(
If you go to the room behind Enigmatic Door in the felcycle room that we just unlocked by this, i can see new small orb on the 10th pillar (the Red Button one)
but it disapears when I leave the room
I dont understand. You said in STEP4: "For the third lock I had 7 rats, so I need 1 statue on pad 7". But in the table in case of 7 rats it says just 1. How did you know that it should be 1 statue on 7th pad? How can I be sure that in my case of 8 rats for 3rd lock I need 4 objects on 7th pad? Or what pad? Or I should refer to the table with the number 4 and use its mapping?
Could you please explain?
So, by using the table at 06:20 you can see that for the first lock, if you have 7 rats you need to put 1 statue on pad 7. Then you need to submit, and do the same for the second lock. And here you need to refer to the second column in the table.
@@thraungaming824 Maybe I explained badly.
I got the sequence, but I have question about 3rd table.
What should I do in case of 8 rats using 3rd table? It says just 4.
Well. Table in this video is incomplete. But there are full tables on internet already, I used them and solved the puzzle.
Lock#4: 7 rats killed = 2 statue on pad#1. (the single number represents 1 statue on pad#)
Btw this puzzle open the big circular door in the back of the Incognitro mount, the one with the bell.
use a macro /tar rat to find all rats, it helped me a lot
i keep getting to 3 or 4 and the no matter the chart it all resets back to step one, about to throw my computer out of my window, any advice? maybe this chart isnt completed??
Hey thanks for the video. I only don't understand what should be done, for example if on my 3rd run I have 7 rats. On your table it just says 1, no number oof statues mentioned. What does it mean?
It means one statue on the pad number 1
@thraungamingfr7464 Thanks very much for the help again!
lock 1: 7 rats killed = 1 statue on pad #7
/tar the rats and look for the target on minimap. Easy. No need to reset the instance either, rats respawn after failure.
At the final lock I got zipped for 30 mil... And had to start all over... WTF... And the rats were 11...
You talked about a map with numbers on it, but didn't add it to the video.
Be a BM Hunter for this! Sending your pets on the pads is a fast +2 so you have to have only 1 statue next to you ;)
Ohhh this is big brain power
@@beerfish109 they should not despawn, because you never should be too much away, but check if your pets are up before you press enter^^
When i have unlocked 1 of 7, what do i do? felt like u missed saying somethings
You remove the statues from the previous pad, then kill/count the normal “Rats” don’t count the catacomb ones. Then once you’ve placed your statues on the new pad, submit and do it again, until all the locks have been unlocked.
So the same time i submit to unlock the first lock i get new rats?
@@TheJovinski correct
In the chart spaces which don’t specify how many statues on a pad, is it only 1 statue for those?
Also, Thank you for putting these guides out there for people to try and understand.
Yes, it's only one statue :)
the third lock keeps failing over and over. cant be me, i go over the whole place multiple times just to see if there are more rats or catacombs rats appearing out of no where.
There's a weak aura that has been created to help with the rat counting and the indicating of which solution you should have. Apprently I'm not allowed to link it. Better to triple check on your rat kills, I just failed at the 6th lock. Don't forget to check the stairs and they sometimes clip through walls.
And now I'm stuck myself as I can't open up the door to the arcane room. I'm assuming the Arcane Device with the bejeweled game has something to do with it ?
No, you just need to use the humming crystal on top of the door
@thraungaming824 that would be to get in and out of the room yeah, but I can't get one of the statues in
@@beerfish109 with a statue following you, use the crystal to pot in. the statue follows thru gate
@@liquido85 I'll try again so, didn't work for me when I tried earlier
it opened the vault door and theres a portal that reacts to the torch but i have no idea what to do now, also with the goggles on the owel chest statue thing is glowing but its still locked
I once got the message that a mechanism is unlocked but then I made a mistake. When I start again do I do it from table 1? Also, after leaving the catacomb and re-entering I hit Start and then Submitand it electrocutes me...
I you fail you need to exit and reset the instance, by clicking on reset all instances
What to do at Lock 3 with 9 Rats? I don't get it... Table says Pad 7. But how many statue on it?
Only 1! When theres just a number it means you need to just put one statue on that specific pad
the table is incomplete x.x what is 6 rats in phase 4 ?
Do I have to keep clicking on Begin after each lock? Or after Submit and a lock opens just move on to the next lock and submit again when done?
@@alexmoreno4310 you don't need to click on begin after you do it at the beginning. So you're correct, just move on to the next one :)
@@thraungaming824 Please I hope you're able to answer this. I enter the dungeon after resetting. I clear the non important rats, then I hit Begin. Nothing happens. No rats. So I do what others are saying and just put a random statue or submit and fail then Begin again. Once I do that then the rats appear. But when I start from lock 1, it fails every time even with the right statue. What do I do since failing one time you said to reset the instance but I'm forced to fail first to get rats to appear
@alexmoreno4310 honestly I'm not sure why this bug is happening. When I did it this morning I didn't have this issue, and always had rats even after resetting the instance..
how can i get out of path 3 Room??? i can use teleport in, but after placing the statue, i cannot go out....
Having the same issue, sadly.
hi, how do you open the room that gets to pad 3? its the bejewelled game but i'm not sure what i'm aiming to do. Thanks!
You use the teleport item in your bags from one of the previous orbs. You click on the crystal inside and use the teleport item to get in and out
As far as the game inside not sure which order has to be done to open the room
I think that Bejeweled game will be in a future step, for this step that’s not required, the only thing we have to do for this is place the #of statues on each pad in accordance with how many Rats were counted each time. The statue will follow you through the gate with the teleport item.
@@ryanburden8060 cant get out ?
@@Bourrega how to get out of that room?
Does anyone know why Im not seeing any regular rats appear? I reset the instance. I click begin and nothing appears just the rats we dont need
Click begin and then follow it with an initial submit. That will start round 1
So if im on step 3 and i got 9 rats but it just says 7 under pads.. wth does that mean ? what am i missing here ?
It means place one statue on pad 7
Macro for the rats. I wish there was a addon/macro to count them each round
/target Rat
/run SetRaidTarget("target",8)
/cleartarget [help]
/stopmacro [noexists][dead]
/ping [@target]
ok. to begin slick on EM/begin/submit Rd 1 begin kill rats set stutes click submit. Got the Mglass. Round two: clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked submit. Round 3 Clicked on begin killed rats set statues clicked on submit got zapped. why I have done this like 5 times and keep getting zapped on the 3rd round. The statues are in the right place i killed all the rats and I mean ALL the rats. Why do I get zapped on the 3rd round?
chaotic ,and your accent is rly very funny ;-)
When is 9th comingg
if you have no rats but only catacomb rats?
Same issue here...
@@leaverpool8059 i have solved the issue by selecting "submit" after starting the enigma machine. it make the rat spawn
Same here, I have reset the instance many times and they still do not spawn.
Ok I unlocked it by putting a statue on a mechanism and submit, it seems to reset the thing but that does not count as an unlock. Strange then I didn't had catacomb rats for the whole puzzle (which is not bad)!
did you pull on the enigma mashine "begin" and "submit" to relise the rats?
How the F was this solved? The amount of variables and time to try each one make this a mammoth task even for a brute forcing community! Anything to do with all those quests unflagged / flagged messages in your chat log?
Most likely brute force
data from ingame files probly
Never underestimate the power of 10 thousand autistic people with nothing to do and a discord server to organize their efforts.
I was in the discord last night. The guy that solved it had a spreadsheet where he, based on the rat theory, mapped each pressure plate to Success or Fail depending on nr of existing rats and statues needed. After a while a pattern emerged and then he solved it.
@@samuelllooking at the table there does appear to be a pattern. Just the amount of variables, plus time spent dragging statues and resetting the instance must have made it inordinately time consuming for one person to come up with. That they did it in an evening..
I think with these secrets I’m more interested in how things are solved, and more so what the in game content is in terms of clues and puzzles. Brute forcing it, however that s done, seems like the result of bad puzzle design
"Not to difficult" my ass the damn cata comb rats keep going over pressure plates
I just kept killing them
I’m on 7, and the pet battle almost made me lose my mind.
Why :D
@ I did not know that the wicker pup couldn’t die and be resurrected during the battle or it would fail. I was using him in position number one and letting him die before switching pets so I kept winning and winning and winning and I wouldn’t get the quest. It took me forever to figure it out.
No way all of you have the toy from Nzoth , the all seen eye, or something like that . That was already the killer for me .
you don't need that toy, just wait for someone who has it then all people within 10 yards will aslo get secret as complete
This seems so horrible, imagine doin 6 and then failing on one and have to do it all over..
That was me, a catacomb rat went over the pressure plate just when went to submit. Got zapped and died
For me too. That Sucks 1 Hour lost for this.
Pls update orb 9
WASTE time mount ever trash
1st
by most challenging what Josh really means it'll be the most expensive, most boring part that requires items that only 5% of the playerbase has