I think the grim move is terrible. Not because Grim is terrible but because of the environment he's being put in. He was the star player on triumph and other teams he was on, but now he's playing with elige, twistzz and naf. No way he is going to be able to outfrag those three. He is kinda being forced onto a supportive role on the team and that could hurt him in the long run
That would be true if they set the prices. The market sets the price. Unless they are literally lying about the 20% discount, then we should assume that it is 20% below market value.
I think its great to be skeptical about grim. While its sad to see Nitro go he accomplished so much so I hope he can find a new home or stay with liquid in another way. Grims got big shoes to fill
Also they don't need a fragger, they need something different like a good dedicated support or a IGL. However it seems like Liquid just wanna blame the bottom frag or playing bad whenever they don't do well or lose.
If COVID doesn't exist, this move doesn't happen. Grim is a fantastic player and has proven to be online, but hasn't yet proven himself at a high tier LAN. Therefore, it's a good move for Liquid in the Online Era, but it becomes a risky one when LAN tournaments come back around.
Agreed, Dick Lewis made a similar point. I think without the pressure of LAN and being online, it will be a lot less stressful for him to fill the role. Stoked to see how this works out. Grim is nutty.
@@TheZeltins he's talking for 20 minutes dude. We can't even present a powerpoint for 5 minutes of course he needs some sort of notes to talk for 20 minutes
With an actual mic in front of his face, the headset is what confounds me the most. And I'm assuming he woke up halfway (1/4's way?) through somebody shaving his eyebrows while he was asleep.
RVMLath the thing is that they are playing well together right now. It could work just like the Golden of Xizt swap out. And then the team falls apart. Once you have a good IGL you keep him. Fragging igls are also a rare breed
@@varixalint he is but if he stuck to csgo, he could've been the one to join liquid as a dedicated awper while naf/stewie could be secondary awp. That is what thorin was saying.
ngl the move kinda reminds me of when astralis added magisk. Only thing different is that kjareby left and nitro was benched. I think its similar cause the team has had a solid streak where all the players are peaking at the same time in form. This could be really big.
@@torts560 Stuck in ghost? He was not that special in ghost. He was a free agent for months and nobody wanted to pick him largely because he was apparently not a great teammate.
Would be interesting to see a video on why Stewie2K has lost his edge in fragging beside from just playing supportive roles since it still seems like he frags lower than his mechanical skill would suggest based off of flashes. And how this contrasts with NAF who didn't even start his career as a star player but developed into one after joining Renegades.
What Thorin said at 3:40 is something I have thought about for a very long time. Ever since nitr0 apparently took over as IGL, he seemed to be the guy that spoke the least out of all the players on Liquid. Every time the cameras were on team Liquid at a LAN, nitr0 barely even opened his mouth. Even during TACTICAL timeouts he seemed completely quiet. I guess he did most of his IGL:ing behind the scenes, during practices and bootcamps and such because of he didn't, I have no idea where else he could have done it.
Loose calling is a style of calling. You don't need complicated executes to be a good team, you just need to know what nades are going where and it gives the space to the players to exploit the patterns that they see in the game. It gives space for anyone on the team to be like " yo this dude is going to be here and i need x nade and x flash to fuck him over" 5 minds are better than one and if you have the "4 best raw skill players in NA" it's a style of calling that works or at least DID work at a high level. If I had to bet nitr0 and co have been trying to implement a more complicated system since they fell off last player break or have been trying a little too hard to make nitr0s system work again. With stew as an IGL trying to implement his system, I think they have realized that this is the perfect time to implement another big fragger and that nitr0 isn't up to be a star player. I think this is the best move that TL could have made. I'm scared that nirt0 doesn't really have a team to go to though other than MAYBE c9 or chaos (even then i don't think any of those teams are in a space where they need a new igl and I think he might have to go play mdl or take a break)
What would you guys think if nitro went to Chaos? They're an NA team with some young promising players, and since steel can't play at valve sponsored events, could take over as an IGL during those tournaments rather than their coach
Don't even do that to my boy Wardell. He literally gave orgs a solid year to pick him up. Anyone from ORGLESS and SwolePatrol could have been on top tier teams in NA, but no one wanted to give them a chance.
Noone gave him a chance because liquid and eg were bursting in the scene and were at the top and even cloud 9 had picked the atk roster and when time came when they needed the change he had already gone to valorant
Wardell on Liquid would've been amazing. Already super good friends with Stewie, probably the best awper in NA. Unfortunate but he will do big things in Valorant.
Wardell was the most overrated pugstar I've ever seen put in the conversation for being in a T1 NA team, only performed online/offline against T2-3 teams
@@rhuboy8048 not that insane tbh .... EG would honestly try harder to hold on to Brehze and Ethan rather than Cerq . But the man has been playing with this squad for 2 years now so it's hard for me to see Cerq actually agree to move to another Org .
I think this team is going to be really successful, but if they aren’t I couldn’t see them ever kicking Stewie. He’s the only Swiss Army knife on the team. He’s the best support player in na at this point and I think they would only get worse if they were to kick him
FalleN with TeamLiquid. ohhhhhhhhhhhhh sweeet baby jebus. witihin the 2 matches scrims of practice, he would channel his BadFALLEN aura around his team-mates, and when Fallen's IGL qualities x BadFALLEN x TeamLiquid firepower combined . They would have ripped apart every team , plus everybody adores fallen, he is one of the CS Royalties.
@@notverysmart42069 My only issue with him is how his personality meshes with the team. Thorin has touched on this as well. All the guys in liquid except for stewie all seem a bit too passive. Last summer when they were on top they had so much energy, were shit talking and overall boosting their own morale. When they aren't winning it seems like stewie is the only one who attempts to boost morale. I just feel like a coach should be tactical as well as boost the players morale, kind of like how zonic,ynk and even kassad do it. From what I know Adren is decent with tactics but doesn't do much to boost morale.
I think Alex should be more realistic and reliable roster move in my opinion because he has played with similar kind of players earlier in vitality squade and he is good fragging and awesome tactical igl.also fallen angle was very interesting in my money because he is just tired from those fucking mibr situation he need some fresh air and he had played with stew and also fimilier with NA culture I guess.he is still one of the best deadly and chaotic awper in the world so it would be great to add either fallen or Alex as an igl in the team liquid. But for igl Alex is more suitable for team liquid.if you want some awping strength you should go with fallen.but right now it's time to see what team liquid can do in the future and in online DH master summer tournament which isn't far from now.
ALEX is a solid choice ... But i can't see Fallen as a long term solution for team Liquid . Either way NA desperately need a new generation of IGL instead of star players .
people are rumoring Nitr0, Shroud, JasonR, and ScreaM are going to be the liquid valorant roster thats getting announced tomorrow. not sure who the 5th would be but its probably that core or the fish123 roster + scream.
Allen Liang they did signed him to be the captain, and then they signed a whole other team and he hasn’t played for them yet so he’s probably going to sign with another team
i hope grim does well but man i wish they would pay for karrigan or someone like that who has shown the ability to use talent better than most other igls
When you were talking about the face of the franchise...you omitted that Team Liquid had yet to exist in CS without nitr0. He and EliGE were there from day one. Original roster. Longer than Pasha, Taz, and neo were with VP.
Liquid made a great move. A 19 y/o like grim once they make it to a t1 team his confidence is even more boosted. There first match is this coming Saturday, they will destroy everyone
Grim signs for the TL organization as the TL organization signs Grim. lol I don't even know much about Grim but if I didn't comment this somewhere I was gonna die.
auti would be a legendary move, he could be a great support and secondary caller, but I actually also think that they could use an actual primary AWPer like Wardell or someone else with more LAN experience.
Yea but why grim? Why another fragger? An unproven one at that.Why not a supportive element? I bet taco would be hella down to go back to liquid now that MIBR has turned into the shitshow that it is rn. Maybe one of the geng or C9 boys (Koosta maybe? Or autimatic?). Heck even envy has some players that i believe would fit right into this team, like michu for example.
I've been ranting about Nitro leaving to anyone who will listen. However I'm not convinced Grim will fit well under Stewie as a new player, I hope he doesn't suffer from the "too soon" issue that many less experienced players end up going through, its happened to many players and some have not rescued their careers.
That's the beauty of cs being online right now. That pressure from being on LAN will not be there. So it's a perfect time to bring in a less experienced player, molding him to the team before they go 2 LAN.
Too soon? Do you even follow counterstrike? He's been chugging away at tier 2 NA for almost two years now. He's 19 how much longer does he need to wait?
@@daedaethomas47 I can get behind this, if they bring him on slowly they could have a really sick raw talent that hasn't been in NA for some time, I don't mean that to sound like I'm bashing NA, I'm not, but occasionally there is someone with incredible talent and it gets wasted. Exciting times though!
@@parikshitrao4208 I've been following NA and CS in general for some time and trust me, there are countless amounts of players who end up going to T1 teams in their region and don't have the happiest of endings and they slowly fade out to being bang average and then retiring. Talents need to be nurtured, now we're online and the environment is volatile we may see players like this flourish or everyone chopping and changing
I'm a month late but Nitro was a decent awper in the last few months and that's about it sadly. Especially on Overpass he always played very well with awp but he had to go :/
thooorin don't help them let them choose grim but if the TL organisation they would watch this video and add someone like fallen you really giving free content that can save liquids future outcomes if i was liquid organisation am just gonna steel thoorins ideas given in this video or rather take advantage of him but no the organisation will not do that
It makes me sad that nitro is gone but I’m glad grim got a chance to play at the next level
He's more than deserving! Grim is nutter butterz.
I think the grim move is terrible. Not because Grim is terrible but because of the environment he's being put in. He was the star player on triumph and other teams he was on, but now he's playing with elige, twistzz and naf. No way he is going to be able to outfrag those three. He is kinda being forced onto a supportive role on the team and that could hurt him in the long run
@@zayb0906 They have given him all of the roles he had in triumph.
VShadow111 yeah and? he still isn't going to outfrag those three
HyperFX he will most probably out frag these guys he did 60 kills against mibr
Thorin, I think your kind of content could REALLY benefit from the new chapter feature on videos.
if CSMoney has a "constant 20% discount" on their prices, then that isn't a "discount" - that's just their base price.
That would be true if they set the prices. The market sets the price. Unless they are literally lying about the 20% discount, then we should assume that it is 20% below market value.
It is a bit cheaper than the steam market place but it’s a bit of a double edged sword as they value your trade in value at much less as well
I think its great to be skeptical about grim. While its sad to see Nitro go he accomplished so much so I hope he can find a new home or stay with liquid in another way. Grims got big shoes to fill
Also they don't need a fragger, they need something different like a good dedicated support or a IGL. However it seems like Liquid just wanna blame the bottom frag or playing bad whenever they don't do well or lose.
@@worm9862 Nitro had to go. He was fragging far to low while not being IGL. Twistzz and Stewie have been sharing the support role for a long time.
i think nitro should join 100T and take over gratisfaction postion
@@brocksinclair66 wtf
hope captain america finds a new home
imagine its Brazil
Going to miBr to give stewie the middle finger
@Charu Holland bruh dont even know what to say to you charu holland
@Charu Holland oh ok sorry didnt know it bothered you charu holland
@Charu Holland sorry on their behalf charu holland
If COVID doesn't exist, this move doesn't happen. Grim is a fantastic player and has proven to be online, but hasn't yet proven himself at a high tier LAN. Therefore, it's a good move for Liquid in the Online Era, but it becomes a risky one when LAN tournaments come back around.
Agreed, Dick Lewis made a similar point. I think without the pressure of LAN and being online, it will be a lot less stressful for him to fill the role. Stoked to see how this works out. Grim is nutty.
Honestly if grin doesn't work, that's ok allegedly it was free
@@jasonwithrow9161 I think so too and I hope he does
@Charu Holland yep and now ZPG is looking scary too
That's legit what Thorin said lmao, you just repeated it.
Lol I cant stop looking at his eyebrow what happened
Tru. For me was eyes, he is partly reading script or smth
rick oh no I never released he’s eyebrows was like that :C
@@TheZeltins he's talking for 20 minutes dude. We can't even present a powerpoint for 5 minutes of course he needs some sort of notes to talk for 20 minutes
With an actual mic in front of his face, the headset is what confounds me the most. And I'm assuming he woke up halfway (1/4's way?) through somebody shaving his eyebrows while he was asleep.
Does Duncan have a new camera or am I just seeing things?
Looks HDAF
Yeah lmao just noticed, man looks high quality now
He has purchased sony A7S ll camera I guess😂😂😂😂
You are seeing things because of his new camera.
he bought a new cam
I thought the cs money thing was a joke lol but its actually an ad xd
cs money is the raid shadow legends of csgo smh
Cs money is actually good unlike raid shadow legends
Maxwell Möllersten noo
@@maxwellmollersten8979 Cs money is a trash market place
@@saitama4128 why?
@@SoyFelipeCTM Insane fees and bad deals
I like the moses intro at the end so you dont get demonetized haha
yeah thats why he added it pepeLaugh
forgot floppy for an option in NA but probably wouldn't have happened. C9 definitely want to build around him and oSee
RVMLath they also have a fragging igl in jt
@@phsycresconquest6636 jt is defintely their third best piece but i could see them removing him if there was a decent option available
RVMLath the thing is that they are playing well together right now. It could work just like the Golden of Xizt swap out. And then the team falls apart. Once you have a good IGL you keep him. Fragging igls are also a rare breed
i was hoping for autimatic to join liquid for nitro.
He is better in gen.g I think he seems comfortable in gen.g.
@@sahajranipa stewie and automatic combo is good though. They were doing great in cloud 9
They need tarik and stew back
Слава Ошейко why are you here
Yes, we need the Great Wall of china
Liquid still have the sickest jersey, looks good on you thorin
Clever foreshadowing with the Moses outro. Thought that was a bit odd at the time
The idea of wardell in liquid intrigues me.
Isn’t wardell in TSM for VALORANT?
@@varixalint yep he is
@@varixalint he is but if he stuck to csgo, he could've been the one to join liquid as a dedicated awper while naf/stewie could be secondary awp. That is what thorin was saying.
Stewie will never get kicked, feel like he’ll quit before that
stewie was never the problem hes the reason why elige and twistzz got "better" because he made space for them to carry,
@@azuhh1431 i think a lot of people dont understand what he does for the team
ngl the move kinda reminds me of when astralis added magisk. Only thing different is that kjareby left and nitro was benched. I think its similar cause the team has had a solid streak where all the players are peaking at the same time in form. This could be really big.
6:29
im willing to give him a chance
Chinese fans: "nOoOooOO baNaNA mAN BaNana mAn"
If I were TL, I'd just ask s1mple if he wants to actually win.
Don't think he'd rejoin them
JimmyNeutron7 especially not with adren as coach
@@suryachinnareddy9150 Seriously though why did they not replace adreN with zews and nitr0 with autimatic, come on.
@@suryachinnareddy9150 S1mple wouldn't even watch VOD's at MLG Columbus with the crew. adreN and co. don't need those headaches again.
He wouldn’t join, he actually feels like Navi is his home that he doesnt rage at. He has a good bond with them also
Wardell is seriously underrated too bad he went to the dark side
Ha! Valorant's not a bad game
@@torts560 Stuck in ghost? He was not that special in ghost. He was a free agent for months and nobody wanted to pick him largely because he was apparently not a great teammate.
@@vshadow1115 apparently hes really improved in TSM
Team Liquid's play style in 2019 is like the charge of the light brigade - just rush in there completely not caring about what's in the site lmao
Duncan in HD; finally something working out for the better in 2020
nitr0 isn't the franchise player in the same way that rain isn't FaZe's; NiKo and Elige ftw
Would be interesting to see a video on why Stewie2K has lost his edge in fragging beside from just playing supportive roles since it still seems like he frags lower than his mechanical skill would suggest based off of flashes. And how this contrasts with NAF who didn't even start his career as a star player but developed into one after joining Renegades.
Not really a response, so much as a comment. His awping is annoying to watch, and writes checks his aim can’t cash.
I love the NFL analogy
Thoorin!! I love you!! So excited to listen to this one!!
I don’t even watch pro counter strike that much anymore but I still watch almost every Thorin csgo video
The intro on nitr0's video is in the outro.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO
What Thorin said at 3:40 is something I have thought about for a very long time. Ever since nitr0 apparently took over as IGL, he seemed to be the guy that spoke the least out of all the players on Liquid. Every time the cameras were on team Liquid at a LAN, nitr0 barely even opened his mouth. Even during TACTICAL timeouts he seemed completely quiet. I guess he did most of his IGL:ing behind the scenes, during practices and bootcamps and such because of he didn't, I have no idea where else he could have done it.
nobody excepted
liquid.pashabiceps
liquid.scream
(im not sure)
Scream is playing valorant.
@@saltymuch3561 u think
looks like you got a new camera mate, nice
IGLs are a rare commodity now... Especially good dragging ones.
Even I though am not a Tl fan i feel sad intro leaving =((
grim is okay idk
lookin healthy as fuck Thorin, keep securing that bag king
Wardel would have been interesting
He was proven to never be good on LAN against top teams though
That would have been my favorite move. Not just because it would be the best move ever, but just because he would be fun to watch on TL.
I think he's full-time with Valorant now. Which sucks, he had so much potential.
Thicc Boy Did you see him carry Ghost Gaming on LAN?
He’s extremely invested in valorant and streaming.
Loose calling is a style of calling. You don't need complicated executes to be a good team, you just need to know what nades are going where and it gives the space to the players to exploit the patterns that they see in the game. It gives space for anyone on the team to be like " yo this dude is going to be here and i need x nade and x flash to fuck him over" 5 minds are better than one and if you have the "4 best raw skill players in NA" it's a style of calling that works or at least DID work at a high level. If I had to bet nitr0 and co have been trying to implement a more complicated system since they fell off last player break or have been trying a little too hard to make nitr0s system work again. With stew as an IGL trying to implement his system, I think they have realized that this is the perfect time to implement another big fragger and that nitr0 isn't up to be a star player. I think this is the best move that TL could have made. I'm scared that nirt0 doesn't really have a team to go to though other than MAYBE c9 or chaos (even then i don't think any of those teams are in a space where they need a new igl and I think he might have to go play mdl or take a break)
There is more of a chance of him adapting to lan if he's so good
Back at them thoughts
Thank you!
Shoulda got autimatic the duo between him and stew was amazing on c9 plus he has igled before
But I’m no expert
@@fadedadvice4363 Seems likes Autimatic wants to push GenG as far as it'll go. Doubt they didn't, at least, think about it
Al1ve
i agree, i think autimatic’s loyalties currently lie with daps and koosta. if gen.g fall into a particularly long slump, he may make a switch
What would you guys think if nitro went to Chaos? They're an NA team with some young promising players, and since steel can't play at valve sponsored events, could take over as an IGL during those tournaments rather than their coach
makes sense now why you had moses on the outro
Don't even do that to my boy Wardell. He literally gave orgs a solid year to pick him up. Anyone from ORGLESS and SwolePatrol could have been on top tier teams in NA, but no one wanted to give them a chance.
Noone gave him a chance because liquid and eg were bursting in the scene and were at the top and even cloud 9 had picked the atk roster and when time came when they needed the change he had already gone to valorant
Wardell on Liquid would've been amazing. Already super good friends with Stewie, probably the best awper in NA. Unfortunate but he will do big things in Valorant.
I know Cerq isn’t from NA, but I’d say he is definitely better in an NA team.
Wardell was the most overrated pugstar I've ever seen put in the conversation for being in a T1 NA team, only performed online/offline against T2-3 teams
@@LeaveMeDead also seems to be arrogant and kind of annoying from his streams
@@objax cerq to liquid would win majors imo but he has a champion team currently and I'd imagine he would have an insane buyout
@@rhuboy8048 not that insane tbh .... EG would honestly try harder to hold on to Brehze and Ethan rather than Cerq .
But the man has been playing with this squad for 2 years now so it's hard for me to see Cerq actually agree to move to another Org .
I think this team is going to be really successful, but if they aren’t I couldn’t see them ever kicking Stewie. He’s the only Swiss Army knife on the team. He’s the best support player in na at this point and I think they would only get worse if they were to kick him
Honestly, I was hoping that Liquid would pick up Floppy instead. He’s carrying cloud9, however I do think that grim was still a good pickup
just throwing in another name but i think floppy could also fit in TL very well
FalleN with TeamLiquid. ohhhhhhhhhhhhh sweeet baby jebus. witihin the 2 matches scrims of practice, he would channel his BadFALLEN aura around his team-mates, and when Fallen's IGL qualities x BadFALLEN x TeamLiquid firepower combined . They would have ripped apart every team , plus everybody adores fallen, he is one of the CS Royalties.
I understand the move but I would've wanted them to change coaches instead before they touched the 5 man line up.
what’s wrong with adren?
@@notverysmart42069 My only issue with him is how his personality meshes with the team. Thorin has touched on this as well. All the guys in liquid except for stewie all seem a bit too passive. Last summer when they were on top they had so much energy, were shit talking and overall boosting their own morale. When they aren't winning it seems like stewie is the only one who attempts to boost morale. I just feel like a coach should be tactical as well as boost the players morale, kind of like how zonic,ynk and even kassad do it. From what I know Adren is decent with tactics but doesn't do much to boost morale.
Alberto Julio I will admit, if there’s one thing I noticed about him is that he does seem like a quiet person.
New cam? Lookin great.
If there was someone I wanted to make an ad for me. It would Thorin.
Lol
Also, isn’t it Jake, I mean it’s obvious this isn’t him but still, don’t you want to be accurate
The question now is, if this lineup implodes who is next to go? Im torn between Stewie and Grim, any thoughts Thooorin?
I think it would've been very difficult to convince Liquid to pick up Wardell. He effectively fucked up his own career with his choices and behaviour.
I think Alex should be more realistic and reliable roster move in my opinion because he has played with similar kind of players earlier in vitality squade and he is good fragging and awesome tactical igl.also fallen angle was very interesting in my money because he is just tired from those fucking mibr situation he need some fresh air and he had played with stew and also fimilier with NA culture I guess.he is still one of the best deadly and chaotic awper in the world so it would be great to add either fallen or Alex as an igl in the team liquid. But for igl Alex is more suitable for team liquid.if you want some awping strength you should go with fallen.but right now it's time to see what team liquid can do in the future and in online DH master summer tournament which isn't far from now.
ALEX is a solid choice ... But i can't see Fallen as a long term solution for team Liquid .
Either way NA desperately need a new generation of IGL instead of star players .
I believe blamef is one of the best IGLs considering he also frags like a beast.
nitro's gonna play valorant. You heard it first here
people are rumoring Nitr0, Shroud, JasonR, and ScreaM are going to be the liquid valorant roster thats getting announced tomorrow. not sure who the 5th would be but its probably that core or the fish123 roster + scream.
@@ahyes7499 PASHA BICEPS
@@ahyes7499 i thought faze already signed jasonr
Allen Liang they did signed him to be the captain, and then they signed a whole other team and he hasn’t played for them yet so he’s probably going to sign with another team
@@ahyes7499 yea, on liquipedia it says he left 4 days ago
Nitr0 to c9? I'm not expecting it, but it's an interesting thought experiment. The team could definitely use the experience
i think liquid might consider an international valorant roster and hes still part of liquid
@@gautamvaze1101 Like I said, I certainly don't expect it. It was more a thought experiment, like -motm +Nitr0, how much would c9 improve?
Pasha just Joined TL
Missed out on a Liquid Wardell fck
i hope grim does well but man i wish they would pay for karrigan or someone like that who has shown the ability to use talent better than most other igls
When you were talking about the face of the franchise...you omitted that Team Liquid had yet to exist in CS without nitr0. He and EliGE were there from day one. Original roster. Longer than Pasha, Taz, and neo were with VP.
*vigorous shoulder vibrating*
1 min silence for WARDELL
Liquid made a great move. A 19 y/o like grim once they make it to a t1 team his confidence is even more boosted. There first match is this coming Saturday, they will destroy everyone
It's basically impossible but think if team liquid were able to snatch gla1ve
Grim signs for the TL organization as the TL organization signs Grim.
lol I don't even know much about Grim but if I didn't comment this somewhere I was gonna die.
twistzz entry - elige x grim - stew and naf to clutch.
Cool thing about this is; everyone can clutch or entry or rifle.
What do you think about Smooya instead of Grim? :))
i mean he is an awper, the only problem is he is very erratic and a little too aggressive
edit: but that aggression could also be useful though
automatic in liquid
auti would be a legendary move, he could be a great support and secondary caller, but I actually also think that they could use an actual primary AWPer like Wardell or someone else with more LAN experience.
Worm auti is a primary awper tho, a damn solid one at that, he’s been looking nutty as of late on GenG
Worm bro wardell playing valorant now he’s done with cs
cerq
@@antonienortje4120 Maybe if they want to dissolve in six months.
Just imagine this Naf, Twistz and Elige core with Karrigan...
Yea but why grim? Why another fragger? An unproven one at that.Why not a supportive element? I bet taco would be hella down to go back to liquid now that MIBR has turned into the shitshow that it is rn. Maybe one of the geng or C9 boys (Koosta maybe? Or autimatic?). Heck even envy has some players that i believe would fit right into this team, like michu for example.
Floppy or tim on liquid woulda been fireeeeee
Lol koosta is a joke
@@schwii.-9306 im talking sups here he dosnt have to be a superstar man and he is good in the clutches and can roleawp
Or just give grim a chance
k0_0stA 0meGaLUL
Any strat better than no strat
I've been ranting about Nitro leaving to anyone who will listen.
However I'm not convinced Grim will fit well under Stewie as a new player, I hope he doesn't suffer from the "too soon" issue that many less experienced players end up going through, its happened to many players and some have not rescued their careers.
That's the beauty of cs being online right now. That pressure from being on LAN will not be there. So it's a perfect time to bring in a less experienced player, molding him to the team before they go 2 LAN.
Too soon? Do you even follow counterstrike? He's been chugging away at tier 2 NA for almost two years now. He's 19 how much longer does he need to wait?
@@daedaethomas47 I can get behind this, if they bring him on slowly they could have a really sick raw talent that hasn't been in NA for some time, I don't mean that to sound like I'm bashing NA, I'm not, but occasionally there is someone with incredible talent and it gets wasted.
Exciting times though!
@@parikshitrao4208 I've been following NA and CS in general for some time and trust me, there are countless amounts of players who end up going to T1 teams in their region and don't have the happiest of endings and they slowly fade out to being bang average and then retiring.
Talents need to be nurtured, now we're online and the environment is volatile we may see players like this flourish or everyone chopping and changing
@@BMJYDK I agree with what Thomas said basically.
Damn why the intro to at the end of the video 😂
Omg fallen with the other 4 liquid players would have been nuts wtffff
Fallen in liquid would be fucking amazing
Man i can hear thorin for hours..
I was just sad to hear that he's going to play Valorant. I guess I'll never see him play ever again
I know it would have been an even huger risk but I like Junior on primary AWP
hmm, unlucky wardell is probably #1 op next to ska probably
FalleN on liquid would be deadly.
Nitro will join faze and destroy liquid
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But why hes been in the org for 5 years changes gotta happen
I think grim will frag well but either Twistzzz or naf will fall off smh
Grim is a monster I cant see him buttomfragging or something lol
I'm a month late but Nitro was a decent awper in the last few months and that's about it sadly. Especially on Overpass he always played very well with awp but he had to go :/
21:40 noice
Grim has played on lan before lol he played in the faceit minor
thooorin don't help them let them choose grim
but if the TL organisation they would watch this video and add someone like fallen
you really giving free content that can save liquids future outcomes if i was liquid organisation am just gonna steel thoorins ideas given in this video or rather take advantage of him but no the organisation will not do that
Automatic is better he have more experience than grim
Does the camera quality seem off this episode? feels like theres lots of stutter and tearing, low frames.
How the fuck did he guess mibr would all leave
RIP liquid Nitr0(GEN)
4:50-5:37
LEMME SAY IT 1st. Daps kicked from GenG to pick up Nitr0
holy shit now i wish fallen was in liquid so bad
Fallen is a decent to good awper. But honestly from a human-perspective I cant stand him. Also NAF>Fallen for Awping...
@@imaxix7779 you're tripping if you think NAF is a better awper. i agree on the human thing
Hey thorin, is elige the greatest NA player in CSGO history? I believe he is, no other player has the consistency of greatness that he has.
NAF and elige top 2 and I could put one over the other in diff criteria
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yes
I'd say twistzz
All three of them will go down as all-time NA talents.
nothing will motivate the liquid boys like a bit of caralho
hes not gonna get 6 months to perform
I think liquid will go down-hill from here.