Robert Greene's Thoughts on AI
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In my most recent live talk with @RyanHolidayOfficial I shared my thoughts about Artificial Intelligence. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below.
Robert Greene is the author of the New York Times bestsellers The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law, Mastery, The Laws of Human Nature, and most recently, The Daily Laws.
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He summed up my unease about AI in a way I couldn't articulate. Robert Greene is a master.
Very good sharing, worth listening to, very impressed with you because sharing is so great.
I completely agree. As an artist I cannot understand how AI image makers find satisfaction from creating with AI, skipping the whole process and going straight to the result. The process of work including the struggles, frustration, time invested, solution finding, doubt, search and many more stages and emotions is the reason for that imense sense of purpose, satisfaction and improvement at the completion of an artwork. I also cannot understand those who claim they need AI to imagine better than they can. There's nothing the human brain cannot imagine. I've never met an artist without imagination.
people said the exact same thing about photographers and yet many years later it’s been accepted as a form of art
@@jonathanguzman1137 Photography is more about capturing the moment and preserve that as an art form and as history. AI tho, it's just different so you can't compare with photographers.
And you can't really say you thought of that exact image is the same as AI produced. It's just process of multiple choice and elimination with AI so both painting or photography comparison with it is not right.
Mr. Robert, I was a stranger to my community. I wanted power. God introduced you to me.Thank you so much for your wonderful books.
Thank you for this, Mr. Greene! you summed up some of the major issues with the growing dependency on technology. amazing as always!
Very good sharing, worth listening to, very impressed with you because sharing is so great.
I love Greene’s work and think he understands much about the human condition. I think he needs to realize here he’s contradicting one of his own core tenets (48th law, assume formlessness, adapting, etc).
I think he should be discussing ways to stay relevant in the coming AI- influenced economy. He mentions in Mastery about learning a skill deeply and perhaps even learning other skills with the same process. The more diverse your skill set, the less repetitive and more creative of a thinker you are, the more you are likely to actually thrive in this new world. This way you reap the benefits of AI automating repetitive tasks and leave more time for your creative mind to thrive.
He does make a good point about people just assuming they can just ChatGPT and Google everything and that’s it. In my opinion, it’s going to be a while before AI automates almost everything. You should still learn a craft and learn it well. AI is your augmentation, not your replacement.
The dude doesn’t have to live by every law of power so he’s not contradicting any.
1:01 if ai takes art u don’t really have anything everything else is pretty much already on buying time except sports.
As an English major I couldn’t agree more. People always ask if my college experience was worth it, and as an economic match the surface answer would seem to be no. But the education of learning what great writers meant has served me in everything I have encountered. And I notice how it’s missing from most people and that’s sad because it’s so valuable. The same way one can learn art appreciation and see everything in a deeper way. I hadn’t thought of AI taking that even further away. 😢
I read the 48 laws of Power cover to cover for 2 years, and have been afraid to apply one's laws Once a person uses the 48 laws you can't unuse these laws
My man addressed Ai as a toy
Legend
As a classics student with access to GPT this hit very close to home. Thanks
Do you have any idea if i could have a master degree in classics with a bachelor degree in French literature
Much needed insight here. Thank you for sharing Robert.
Robert Greene, one of the brightest thinker of our times.
At somepoint in our life, when the AI trend came up. We subconsciously realised that this AI stuff is going to make us really weak. We didn't summarised it into the words but Mr Greene did it so well. Now we are aware. Greene was right, our brain is the most mysterious yet so fascinating things. I hope i get to meet Mr Greene one day in my life.
AI is a very dangerous thing and people can't understand now and say "oh no it's for good", but come 15 - 30 years, AI will be the biggest problem of the human civilization. Every new things require time but also we've to look into both advantages and disadvantages at the same time. Sir Robert Greene I totally agree with what you've said. I am also mad at our generation. Majority of the people of our generation don't even know how to make new friends or socialize. Every single one of us has great potential but how we're going to use it is the most important thing.
It is the way its meant to be. Look deeper into why this is happening. And how the universe works
You think in only extremes. It’s fascinating reading when one actually notices.
There's a lot of shared sentiment I have with Greene here yet there is a side of me that is a little bit optimistic believes that because AI can automate some parts of thought labor that are simply demands on time, we'll be able to focus on more bigger picture strategic concerns since AI can automate some of the detail work. It's going to graduate us to a new problem space that some elements of heavy lifting prevented us from having. The best parallel I can think of is something like this: We don't appreciate food as much because so much of it is packaged and delivered to us in a sense, but we are able to make new strides in this and that because we can get our meals "handed to us" and then spend a significant more amount of time on abstract problem solving because we don't have to sit in the woods for hours setting up traps for food every day.
But there is a big problem where people can have a baseline of survivability without requiring critical thinking skills, a problem that exists now and will only get worse as more and more things are automated.
Win some, lose some, overall.
I feel like social media can cause atrophy of the mind let alone the dangers of AI. Very well and eloquently put Mr. Greene.
May GOD keep you safe you’re treasure Robert Greene.
Sounds like Planetary Chess!
I love Robert Greene, he's had a great influence on me but he's wrong about this. Our brains will just think deeply about other things that AI doesn't have answers to.
He’s a globalist atheist. He’s 100% wrong on a lot of existential questions that don’t involve reductionist power dynamics or some random anecdote about Voltaire
Feeling similar to you. I still rely on my brain for interpersonal relationships, but I’m not going to write a professional brief better than AI in a limited time frame
AI is not at the stage yet where it can "take over". AI needs work. The fact we even have AI is fascinating, but AI is meant to enhance our critical thinking not replace it. I welcome AI, but AI cannot replace humans. Not yet, anyway.
I'm more concerned about the creative arts. I'm an amateur author that wants to formally publish a novel one day, and I know one day AI will be utilized to do what I do faster and better and kill off the market for any debut authors.
@@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308 You might pick a different line of work if your goals are money and the market. In any case, editorials will attempt to ruin your work anyways.
@@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308it already does lol
Aptly said 🎉
Excellent talk Mr Greene
Thank you so much for your teaching Robert, the world needs people like you
It is concerning that there might be great humans with revolutionary ideas in the future who are ignored and outcasted due to AIs that can work thousands of times faster.
But what if the AI can already come up with these revolutionary ideas. I’m not saying they will I’m just wondering like what if they really could think in such a way? And how do you think humans can overcome this and get their ideas out there. Btw you concerns also bother me as well and I think they are very valid and wise.
The reason ai is a problematic is it takes the purpose of so many peoples life’s. Every occupation will be impacted, ai cameras will measure how much work you do at coffee shops and fast food. AI will takes people’s passion and destroy it replacing it with making 10x more artwork. AI is business men’s dream, in no way or shape or form do I see ai as a good thing. Replacing RUclipsrs with ai generated ones like Kwebbelkop is doing, ai can make books tons of them taking away purpose from a human is deadly to our society.
*We are advertised to believe that A.I. in this dimension, will evolve like Skynet or Cobalt in the movies. We shouldn’t be so rigid with our field if vision.*
100 percent!!! This is what I’ve been thinking for years when I first saw a documentary on A.I.. The old saying.” Use it or lose it” rings so true here.
AI is the future Mr. Greene. Let’s not be in denial.
I was about say. I love Greene’s work and think he understands much about the human condition. I think he needs to realize here he’s contradicting one of his own core tenets (48th law, assume formlessness, adapting, etc).
I think he should be discussing ways to stay relevant in the coming AI- influenced economy. He mentions in Mastery about learning a skill deeply and perhaps even learning other skills with the same process. The more diverse your skill set, the less repetitive and more creative of a thinker you are, the more you are likely to actually thrive in this new world. This way you reap the benefits of AI automating repetitive tasks and leave more time for your creative mind to thrive.
I am so glad that I found his videos....
Great content as always
As a professional musician, I probably ought to hate AI. However, I find it fascinating and can't stop obsessing over how it could be used for innovation. For a project, to make my deadline, I taught myself how to use AI for concert visuals. I had to teach myself Python, deal with troubleshooting, and figure everything out on the fly. Now, I'm following machine learning tutorials. It's all math. As a person with only high school level math, this whole journey has been a struggle and required lots of grit. I can only have faith that I will eventually discover something meaningful to bring to my field. So, I can't completely agree that AI itself will atrophy the brain. If anything, you have to develop problem-solving skills to make the AI do what you envision. For the animation project, it took a year teaching myself, including months of experimentation. Like any tool, you need practice, and it was exasperating when programs inevitably crashed. It was not easy at all. However, I do agree that over-reliance on technology leads to lack of social skills and understanding of human nature. I certainly have been isolated during all those months studying by myself.
BRAIN-TRAIN, ROBERT!! TY😊❤
He really put it beautifully and clearly
Very good sharing, worth listening to, very impressed with you because sharing is so great.
You wont need language and deduction skills as much in the future but the human mind will be used in more in other areas.
I imagine the old writers before the printing press was invented were saying similar stuff about the new technology...
It worked out fine.
Exactly, this is an old person's take on young people things. Which is fine. Robert is still great, but he's wrong here.
Robert interrogates the subject as a matter of priority, hardened resolve
I thought what he described about translating Thucydides was a good way to look at dealing with contradicting information/uncertainty. There’s a bunch of ways to interpret the text, even within your own language. The the professor said, you translated this paragraph wrong but you got something there. Robert mentioned it’s humiliating to be stuck on a single paragraph for an entire day.
Terrific point. wow.
I agree 💯
I am totally relying on chat GPT for my writing, and then I call myself a writer. Though I was able to write sooner because AI corrects my grammatical mistakes and I didn't have to wait to work on my writing and then publishing but the reality is I am completely dependent on it and I can not learn it like masters. We gave up thinking, and that's not good.
Thucydides is my dad’s first cousin: he and his brother Xenophon run the souvlaki joint a couple of blocks down the street from my place. I’ve never thought of him as being particularly “difficult”; true, he’s been known to freak out at the kitchen staff from time to time - especially Diogenes, his distractedly ‘chill’ short-order cook (and, of course, ‘Uncle Thuce’ has always cultivated a fierce hatred of all Turks, together with a healthy hostility towards the Persians) but “difficult”? Not at all: in fact, he’s quite an easy-going, agreeable fellow - at least, as Greek restauranteurs go...
Devellope yourself and your mind. Also use Ai to do so. Find ways to devellope your character your discipline and use Ai to evolve. The next important stage (Quantum computing -Ai - + Fusion - & new high level Mental Paradigme Systeme Usage).
We shall see
Amazing thoughts 😍😍😍!!!
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My GPS is a crutch, I cannot imagine what AI will be like for those attempting to navigate other discourses.
Cool speech but its like fearing airplanes. "I had a lot of great adventures using a stage coach!" So? The destination matters more.
Great video
I think AI, like the rest of technology, is a tool and should be kept as a tool.
I rely on my brain 90% of the time, and I only use AI as a tool to amplify the results I get from my own brain, I don't use it as a crutch, for example to generate information or essays I don't want to figure out myself. The problem is the same as every piece of technology humans invented: Will humans use it to replace their abilities and live life on easy mode? Or will they use it as a tool to amplify their strengths? Most humans tend to be sheep and will be the type to generate an answer to a question they have to answer, using AI. They will let the AI figure life out for them. This is very dangerous. But for the smart individual, AI can be so interesting and useful. For example, I was recently using AI to have a philosophical discussion and see the machine's point of view on things, because a machine can only give a logical/rational answer. I used those rational answers to generate more creativity on my part, something the machine/AI cannot do because no matter how advanced an AI can be, it remains an algorithm and nothing but an algorithm. It simply cannot generate the true creativity that necessitates human emotions.
Creativity is the result of memory and experiences-your database; nothing's created out of thin air. Human minds are algorithms.
@@AA-lz4wq How do you quantify emotions such as anger, love, lust, envy, etc though? How does that fit into any algorithms? It's obvious that human actions and emotions can't fit into algorithms as we're fundamentally irrational. There's something about humanity that can't be captured by AI and simple binary models.
@@Bahamut998 Neurochemical phisiological interactions in a series of cause-and-effect dimamics (this is why antidepressants exist) A rock hits a guy on the head, and his personality and even the way he loves and interacts with others might change, like deleting a line on a code.
@@AA-lz4wqI have never read a more foolish opinion in my life
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amen
Ppl like Robert greene are those that don't like the short cut to success and achievement because you won't get fulfilled at the later time
Robert I agree with you on this but I believe that we are heading towards a world where every human brain will be connected to the greater computer.
That’s communism
Dependency on technology is a giant problem. Toxic social media usage is destroying ability to focus and reason hard enough.
Unregulated AI is capable to bring a lot of damage to the economy.
This is where he's 100% wrong. AI is 100x further along than 99% of people understand.
I build fully autonomous agents right now that can do most people's jobs better, faster and cheaper.
Within a year, you'll have startups completely run by AI, within two years the only jobs that won't be automated are those with cultural pushback and within 3 years the idea of money will be called into question.
That is a new world order. One in which traditional power structures won't stand. The average person will have more ability to create value than entire companies today. He's allowing his historical biases to cloud his judgement.
If it were up to Robert, we'd live in a Machiavellian dystopia for the rest of human history just because he likes that struggle. People won't atrophy, they'll be set free to pursue what they're actually meant to pursue.
awesome
I understand some of what you're saying here. I think it's only fair for me to say I'm a 21 year old computer science student so people know where I'm coming from. I sort of agree but I think the that's how most humans are and it's not necesserily a fault of ai technology. I mean think about it, when people created paper books, did the society decay from lack of having to memorize large portions of information just to advance science or did it free up the mind to take on harder challening task. That's how I view ai and new technology in general. I think most of the poulation will use the technology as a crutch but the aware or "woke" people, (not those who just say that they are but those who actually are awake) will be intentional with how they navigate a new technology or anything like that. Of course we lose a lot of opportunity for critical thinking by removing large amounts of decisions processes in society but in order to produce ai tools humans inherantly have to use their critical thinking and all the skills you mentioned to create it in the first place. I think nothing has changed, apart from proportions. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what my instinct tellls me, as someone with a science background, that there are laws and they're always correct, if they're wrong at least wrong, the law was wrong in the beginning. Love your books by the way, I can't even imagine how your thoughts are based on what we can gleam through your content.
I hope you live to see the cultural change I'll bring to this world.
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rob please live another 100 years...
Robert, I was wondering how might some of your key characters be analyzed under different perspectives. Specifically Glenn Gould and other masters under the Laws of Human Nature lense.
I apologize if this is a hypothetical question, but Im curious.
If a tree fell in the forest but nobody was there to witness it, did it fall at all? In the same way, if a solution was reached but no mental process was there to create it, did it happen at all?
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Society is dumbed down with lack on displine unfortunately if art is not
Appreciated and has not much has value everything becomes very generic and boring. 😱
Fun Fact: the creepy robot kid in AI: Artificial Intelligence was named *DAVID* (as were all of the Y2K generation of creepy pre-adolescent boydroids) He was “adopted” by a family to replace their dying kid, but in this universe the real kid gets better, and his presence in the home makes David look like the uncanny little freak he actually is…
I love A.I. as a tool used occasionally but I am a classicist at heart with a Rock n Roll edge. Tech is just a tool and people worship it like a God. That is the problem. We need a new Golden Age of culture and urban planning.
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But Robert, what would be our future where everyone will worship AI artists and not human artists?
What's AI?
Won't it will free up our time to solve bigger problems?
you will never solve bigger problems if your brain didn't devolpe by solving smaller problems, you can't expect to bake a wedding cake when you didn't learn how to make a simple desert, even if you had double the time to do it
@@starsandallwitch Agree and got it 👍
@@starsandallwitchyup. That's a great example to sum it up the convo.
What will you think when AI create brains
sir get the idea of reading books
I didn't thought u would talk about ai !
today's AI is more of tool...
it helps us to create something faster and easier.
you still need to use your imagination to actually write the right prompts
now i am experimenting with AI dall-e (picture generator)
and actually have to think twice what word to use as prompt , what i want to look it like.
maybe i miss the point.
I think you are missing the point, the brain power to write prompt are minimal at best and is no where near the level that it takes to learn and master a skill, I really suggest you pick up a skill instead and you'll realize how much different your perspective will be
Very bad vibes from the interviewer every time he went like “sure” “yeah”
The truth is that AI could solve problems in realms of health, wealth and quality of life that any amount of human intelligence could...
I think it's just too silly and overly optimistic to think that we humans can solve our own problems through some kind of cultural change. We've been changing culturaly for centuries and we just create more problems.
I think it's time to give a chance for AI to try to solve those problems for us.
When it comes to anything creative and artistic it should be banned
I totally disagree! To compare the advancement of AI to the creation of toys is nonsense! Al is a tool, and like all tools can greatly enhance and simplify various aspects of our lives when used correctly.
A language Model it is not a true intelligence...to understand... It is incredible human. Not free will...nut free won't like Robert Greene says.
*not free will but free won't
-> I believe we are meant to be like Jesus in our hearts and not in our flesh. But be careful of AI, for it is just our flesh and that is it. It knows only things of the flesh (our fleshly desires) and cannot comprehend things of the spirit such as peace of heart (which comes from obeying God's Word). Whereas we are a spirit and we have a soul but live in the body (in the flesh). When you go to bed it is your flesh that sleeps but your spirit never sleeps (otherwise you have died physically) that is why you have dreams. More so, true love that endures and last is a thing of the heart (when I say 'heart', I mean 'spirit'). But fake love, pretentious love, love with expectations, love for classic reasons, love for material reasons and love for selfish reasons that is a thing of our flesh. In the beginning God said let us make man in our own image, according to our likeness. Take note, God is Spirit and God is Love. As Love He is the source of it. We also know that God is Omnipotent, for He creates out of nothing and He has no beginning and has no end. That means, our love is but a shadow of God's Love. True love looks around to see who is in need of your help, your smile, your possessions, your money, your strength, your quality time. Love forgives and forgets. Love wants for others what it wants for itself. Take note, love works in conjunction with other spiritual forces such as faith and patience. We should let the Word of God be the standard of our lives not AI. If not, God will let us face AI on our own and it will cast the truth down to the ground, it will be the cause of so much destruction like never seen before, it will deceive many and take many captive in order to enslave them into worshipping it and abiding in lawlessness. We can only destroy ourselves but with God all things are possible. God knows us better because He is our Creater and He knows our beginning and our end. Our prove text is taken from the book of John 5:31-44, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, Daniel 7-9, Revelation 13-15, Matthew 24-25 and Luke 21. Let us watch and pray... God bless you as you share this message to others.
Couldnt agree more. Ai is not a good thing for human brain. When I was studyijg my bachelors..our teachers even did not allow calculators for calculations in Physics n here we are. A software tool that is saying that it will do almost everything for you. Pathetic.
Computers aren’t random. Although we have a bad habit of making our words not mean much anymore… there is no such problem we’ve faced here that is internet…
I don’t believe that you’re following your own principles of the whole AI thing. Taking apprehension and lack of knowledge and importance and turned it into dislike. Me and you both do not know what it truly going to do. Luke human nature we don’t like it at first
We should be worshiping the ‘brain’? How about let’s start with God first
The brain is being worshipped everyday. Literally. And the Bible was wrote by someone who used their brain
As well
I disagree, people will continue learning languages, they are just going to do it faster. Generalizations lead to confusions, the problem is not the tool but the one using it. We can now learn much faster and be even better than any human ever on earth. It all depends on people. Make no mistake, humans that use AI as a tool to improved themselves will be more advanced than the ones using it to replace them. The gap is getting wider.
Let See the Worst Future Coming...
Atrophy of the brain 😢
Hi Robert, I know and respect that you are a Jew but you have to give your opinions on Israel-Palestine issue.
Have to is the wrong words
He doesn't have to do a damn thing.
Law 4
Every person is free to have their opinions but they are equally free to not have certain opinions. And that's good.
We don't need to have an opinion on everything that's happening around the world.
Prayers to the people of Gaza 🙏
@@stoddard1953 never pick a side ?