@@Straykids_OatMilk I personally don't care either, but usually there are people who are either like "lucky you got a pin and are early!" or people who say things like "no one cares"
I didn't comment "first" just to get pinned or that much of likes . I said "first" just because I love her videos and I was the first person who watched it........I didn't even tell her to pin my comment but I'm glad that she did..
I think those bad comments are actually hurting Lia. because I'm a singer, not a professional one, but everybody experience anxiety, and when I feel anxious oofff my throat start to close and shake, and my voice sound terrible.
Actually it was Albert Einstein who was called to do the times table so he got every single one right but he purposely messed up on one and everyone started laughing. He then gave a speech on how no one congratulated him for his rights but laughed at his wrongs.
They are also human that needs improvement on something, they weren't born perfect just like us non-celebrity people and not everyday they have good and perfect vocals Criticism and hate is different. They did a mistake but look at them now, improving and doing great. Before you make fun of them, THINK!
Kinda out of context but I need to say this It’s funny when some fans say things like what u said but when idols like Giselle from aespa made a mistake so many kpop fans hate her and don’t even try to understand her
@@afeliz2642 Exactly! People excuse their faves from every thing but throw a huge tantrum when idols like Giselle make a single mistake honestly I didn’t even notice it at first until people started pointing it out.
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 No they mean Jimin get off easier/less harsh criticism because he's a guy while Lia has to suffer a lot more just because she's a girl
@@aki_times_ten No, it's clear that you don't. Where do you see Rosé in the og poster's comment. They're talking about double standards when it comes to gender in kpop, not making a similarities and differences venn diagram about a girl that wasn't even mentioned in their comment.
@@millihehethe thing is that you guys are jealous of what they have kings/queens also get a crown then why don't you think of being one because you can't
Yes but there should at least be an industry standard. Allowing idols to have proper vocal training before their debut is necessary, and also unfair to trainees who spend years practicing their singing only to get beaten by someone with just a prettier face than them.
they need to know idols have bad days edit: those ppl barking in the comments "youre just defending them" tf bruh. i literally said they have bad days i nvr said anything abt their singing abilities or defended them on their singing yall barking down the wrong tree. i was stating a fact. everyone has bad days and they could be having one. i still love the idols and their singing, if thats not what youre getting from this comment:)
@@diana913 thing is idols are always excused for sounding bad while singing live and i thought that the point of music is to, yknow, sing???? i wonder if these companies even train their idols to sing well since they’re making mistakes 24/7 and all their fans excuse them…. You can’t expect a doctor to make mistakes while performing surgery because he’s having a bad day, now would you?
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 so? That doesn’t take away the fact that she has amazing vocals and absolutely slayed the cover. You don’t need to always sing live to be good at singing.
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 She is good singling live and even if she sometimes sounds like she’s not good it’s obviously because of the hard dancing choreography Itzy does as well as pressure from fans and anxiety. You can’t really blame her for that and she recently had to go on hiatus due to high levels of anxiety and health hazards. I’m sure she sings much better when she’s alone or with her members and she’ll def sing a lot better when she comes back from hiatus.
@@cristiansandovalmartini53321 bad live performance does not impact Lia’s vocal ability. She sings much better live the most idols who lip sync almost every performance. JYP would not have made her main vocal if she wasn’t capable of seeing live. Lia has the best vocal range out of all Itzy members and IMO is most suitable for the position.
Rosè was warming up and she slayed that part in the concert......she's already least popular now I don't want my precious bias to be the most hated.....and about her vocals are amazing and even if someone took rest for 2 years and makes a single mistake *IT'S OK* If sometimes she's outta tune then what's the problem it's ok!! And I am sure she or any other idol would regret it a *LOT* backstage......
Exactly and they are same people who appreciates people with pretty face no matter you are singing live or lipsyncing. Atleast my Queensé slays wth her live vocals...
Yes, they are always “sick” when they sound bad. Now try saying that about Beyoncé who performed while sick multiple times and still sounded great. They have poor vocal technique and that is the issue here.
@@fireproof2767 Why tf are you going to every damn comment commenting this? Beyonce has WAYY more experience with this. She obviously knows how to cope. You should NEVER strain your voice while being sick.
@@user-wc5pc I was simply joking, but... if someone needs a production team for autotune and things like that on a live show, it means they probably can't sing anyway.
@@reporterg08autotune what they don't need autotune their natural singing is good ??hey were doing 24 concerts we weren't even sure they will come that day there are tones of performances they sang so good stop judging over few sec clips
Rosé didn't get criticism that time, they know that it was a rehearsal and she did completely good at the actual performance and proceeds to the next round
I hate it when anti use this one clip of Jimin's voice cracking and make it as if his vocals are always that way. It's one time out of numerous fantastic performances.
Well and i guess we really need these types of voice cracking moments too.. Like that tell that there humans with flaws and thus prove they're singing live. Also I agree why they troll someone on one bad thing when they don't have the courage to appreciate like thousands of their superb performances
“Fans” are so confusing…. when idols don’t perform enough they get annoyed when they perform too much they get worried when they lip sync they are fake when they sing live and make mistakes they don’t have skill How can someone improve when they don’t make mistakes and practice? Performing in front of an audience feels different from a training room I hope everyone remembers that and be kinder or at least funny when giving critique
I am a singer. It's not easy to put your voice in the right position sometimes. It depends on the situation. Some days my voice sounds better than others, some days I can sing songs perfectly and other days I make mistakes. And it's even harder when you have to perform in a 2h concert where you have to sing and dance at the same time. Besides, these are very few videos of very specific situations, you cannot judge someone's vocal skills by just watching 2 videos of them. These idols have had great vocals moments too, as well as bad ones. Singing is a very hard skill to manage and I understand their voice cannot be great sometimes.
Yes you are right...i also sing , when i also sing the same thing happened with me sometimes it sounds soo well and sometimes it's not... Idols also have some hard time and difficulties too..it's really not a small thing that u are dancing and singing at the same time for almost 2 hours..it gets really hard sometimes to breathe while dancing but I don't know why they see these all things why they don't see the reality 😖
You're a singer, so you should have a better idea who can sing and cannot sing, right? There is a difference between someone who is having a bad throat day and someone who singing like a dying whale. You're a singer, I get your point about people can make mistakes but idols are professionals that they should sing live sometimes with live vocals perfectly. They can't sing horribly everytime they are singing live. They are not Villi Minelli who only used recorded voice to gain success, aren't they?
@@brightstar7446 well these idols don't sing terribly everytime they're on stage. I've seen other live performances from them and their vocals were great. As I said these are very specific situations. I know they are not the best vocalists in the world and they have a lot of things to improve but still, they can sing. Although I gotta admit that idols' vocal training is usually very poor and it should be improved or something cause companies always focus on dance skills rather than vocals
@@marunux Not all idols are horrible singers, definitely. There are idols who are great singers AND great dancers, too. They are not called simply singers, not dancers, not MCs but idols. If we would go back to the start of idol culture in Korea, idols are not simple dancers or singers, they are all-rounder talents. Idols should start showing their singing prowess at some point in the height of their careers. I don't get it when fans always make excuses everytime their idols sing really horribly on stage. How some idols are great "singers" in albums but can't even give a single remotely decent live performance? How is it always when they are scheduled to perform live there is something not good on them? Is it still chances or excuses already?
Tbf, those were probably the clips that went viral, and it'd be misleading to put new clips since we couldn't know why the public thought what they did.
I went to the Phoenix concert where ITZY held their world tour for Checkmate. And I can assure you she sounded AMAZING! And if that happened, nobody noticed!😂❤
@@winwinner6674what do you mean "fOr TeN YeArS", the man has been singing since debut without any training at first, and was always singing the high notes that females can't hit, he's been singing while dancing to the most hard dance spots given to him, since he travels the most on stage because of his TALENT, and he always killed it, but whenever he was having a bad day or he was sick you could tell that he was because he always sings live, unlike some kpop idols that move their hands up and down and call it a choreography, while lip syncing and being called 'perfect singers!' ,you said that he was singing for ten years and if he was bad like you said then he wouldn't be where he is now so the shit you said doesn't even make sense+ you don't know better than vocalists or voice coaches and musicians, so just get your hater ass out of here...
@winwinner6674 Jimin had a sore throat that day that's why he sounded like that, and have you ever heard his vocals? his high notes are chefs kiss, go find something else to do instead of hating on idols.
@@I.like.sleeping532 bffr, he was never vocally trained or took singing lessons during trainee days or after the group gained popularity and money, not that there was something to be trained in the first place since he never had a good or pleasant voice for singing.💀
Not a BTS stan but Im a fan of Jimin. I really love his vocals. Voices do cracks, even if we speak sometimes our voices cracks 🤣 and considering that BTS are always busy doing tours, singing, and stuffs. They need REST!
Jimin was sick. He couldn’t even perform at their own concert. The boys were tired and we thought they won’t attend that event ( and didn’t focus on voting) They almost fainted after the performances. But guess what? Jimin and Tae were criticized for having weak vocal. Jungkook for being inactive and giving no reaction. Jimin was bullied by netizens and media for many days as they waited that moment for whole life. People still come up with this clip to talk s**t about him. He barely have bad performances apart from that old time when he was not in good condition. He needed to train? No. needed to REST. That boy perfectionist ass trained himself harder than all trainers out here.
I bet you fucking sleep with him too from how much you supposedly know about him that day, by the way singer's are trained to not be too agresive with their voices if thry are sick, if he actually was sick or had the correct training he would know to not start BELTING for those notes and would've kept it low. Not to say he hasn't gone through enough hate but saying that we get our facts straight, he has worked hard an will till the forseable future.
Its sad how kpop fandoms hate Jimin over a 2018 clip where he and V were sick, had 24 concerts each year in 2018-19. It’s obvious after so many continuous concerts their voice will break. Well as of 2021 Jimin got rest and his vocals have improved a lot like alot after Butter, atleast you can be relieved that he doesn’t break anymore. Please understand that BTS didn’t get proper rest in 2018-19, BTS was giving out concerts like mad(24 concerts in each year damn!)
Did everyone just forget that she had a major case of the flu that time? She was feeling really insecure that she couldn’t sing to her best ability because she was sick
Rose was just warming up that's why the high note didn't go how she wanted in the performance she did good Lia was panicking and people sometimes have bad days plus just because she didn't sing perfectly that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the title of main vocal and she is the strongest in vocals in her group Jimin was sick that day but still performed and did the high note and honestly at the starting of the performance I didn't even notice his voice was cracking
@@kookiemonster6035 cause that kind of people don’t move on..in my country we have phase “people already go to the moon..meanwhile she doesn’t even move from her bed..”
Jimin actually was sick and had a bad throat if you watch the behind the scenes of that performance it clearly says that he had a bad throat and he even said it himself.
@@nehaa_b15 even if it did occur more than once, it's not like most of his performances are bad. He also had many amazing vocal moments. And on tour, he was often in a bad health condition which does affect singing. It just irks me when people make it seem that he can't sing at all because he makes mistakes... you know like a human being
@@_etherealisms You know, there are times when a question should be ask. When other's ask a question doubtfully after you tell something, it make you sounds like you're lying, no?
@@shialee6342 she really had sore throat... Everyone in rehearsal were kept saying that she is suffering from sore throat.. if you don't know dan don't even comment... You plonk*r
@@theshortmemes00 lmao she cant be sick everytime even in mv's her voice is so annoying she cant use techniques well and she sounds like a fucking crying baby EVERYTIME LMAOOO ☠️
Check her full solo, make your own opinion. Imo she sounded quite good, considering she was obviously nervous etc. But I think she really did a good job!
@@trollsoifyoufightwithmeyou2472 I think this performance was pretty bad for her standards as well. Lia has a really nice voice, she's easily the best vocalist in Itzy, but she runs out of breath fast and sometimes sounds flat. Her lower register is also way stronger than her high notes.
tbh she sounds way better than the clip shown here in this video. midzys who filmed her in the concert during this song posted the video and she was totally fine
That Rose one was a bit serious. I don't know much about her vocal agility, she really messed up that one. But melisma is not easy stuff tho. Even well-trained singers struggle with that one.
They were just practicing backstage though. It wasn’t a big performance and it wasn’t even one with other idols I don’t think? I think she’s usually fine like in her Masked Singer or Busking performances she sounds great with Suhyun and Onew etc. but the example used was the other idols trying to help her hit her notes so they sang it and then she tried to copy it but was struggling I believe
Yes. Lia's voice went unstable cuz her mom was at the concert. It's totally reasonable to get your throat tight when you feel like crying. tbh JYP's recording/livestream of the performances really did ITZY dirty. Like literally look at the recording any fan who went to the concert and recorded the performances live and in person, itzy sounded wayyyy better and slayyed.
I think rosé was just warming up her voice many idols do like that and Lia was singing without autotune and background music and after their group performance it's difficult to sound good and jimin's one his voice cracked during the performance and he cried after the performance so let's not expect idols to be perfect all the time
Thank you for this. I see so many people hating on Lia for hee vocals in ITZY. She's more comfortable with songs like her cover of Let Me Love You. And Rosè was still getting used to her knew technique. And I'm pretty sure Jimin was either sick or had some throat pain all in all. We need to not judge idols based off of years old clips, around debut. They're still learning and improving.
I'm sorry and I'm not hating but "she was singing without autotune and background music", girl that is what live singing is supposed to be. Some of y'all have literally forgotten what normal norms are because shit like back tracks and autotune even in a vocal performance are so normalised in kpop
Rosé was warming up there, she ATE that part on the stage. The reason why she was on top of naver searching cause her appearence there was amazing, knetz praised her
@@zhisu2665 lol she win the runner up there for SINGING and Gummy herself chose her. Being praised by diva that rosé used to adore during her trainee days was a great achivement for a rookie idol. Her The King Masked Singer and Fantastic Duo episode are one of the highest rating. She was a rookie and compete against 10years+ experience musical actor, and Sungjae (BTOB), but she could be 2nd best is amazing
@@zhisu2665 she is not typical of idol would get praised just by her visual, she attracts people by her trendy n unique vocal that never heard in kpop. Her uniqeness definitely makes her different and stand out from others.
First rose was warming up she sang better in show and proceed to second level Second jimin was sick on that day Every idol is a human no one can be perfect ❤❤❤❤
I probably have died lots of times already cause Jimins voice is heaven😍✨💜 And for that clip in the video, I think the production team used the wrong key, and Jimin was sick that time.
I'm sorry , but their right ! Rosé is my bias but sometimes she sing offtone and it's not being an hater to realize that some idol need to improve or that their teacher teaches them in the wrong way ! Cause if you know the REAL voice of Rosé you know she sing very well but in slow and deep song , but YG want here to sing nazal and high voice . Edit: I know rosé sing well , and sound pretty good in high voice , but if you listen to raw vocal of rosé ( youtube or even their documentary on Netflix ) you can tell that it's not the best way for her to sing like that , and she can be off tone pretty easily. She has a pretty voice but not a lot of technique. And I repeat : I LOVE ROSÉ ! And I think it's just wanting the best for her to realize that yg is ruining her voice by asking her too much and/or teaching her the wrong way .
It's not like Rosé sings offtone all the time. Sometimes she makes mistake like every human does. Ik yg wants to sing her in high pitch but still I won't say that she doesn't sound good in high pitch. Though it's forced but still she sounds perfect to me . It's just sometimes she sings outta tune which is a mistake
@@praveenw.4393 Do you have any knowledge in singing or vocal coaching? The way the vocal trainers at YG teaches rose is a very somewhat old method and her voice isn't "naturally nasally" Its the way the vocal teachers are teaching her which can obviously strain her voice or in instance make her sound a little offtune. Rose has a really nice when she sing in her natural voice. Yall will disagree with anything lmfao if you don't know how the industry works then be quite.
@@praveenw.4393 hey I am tenor so I can sing A#2 comfortably I can also go more deeper and can go high till E6 which is whistle but I don't know I can't sing comfortably in mid ranges can u help me I mean any vocal exercise
well yeah, pitch is one of rosé’s weaknesses and i used to think that she was one of the worst main vocalists in kpop but i think she’s gotten better! (although she still strains quite a lot)
The way people are criticizing every ITZY member over a single thing in the comments is disgusting for real, like y’all couldn’t do the quarter of what they did.
itzy is very talented, they probably have one of the best dance lines in kpop, and yuna is very good a rapping, they also have amazing stage presence and amazing songs, but amongst main vocalist lia is one of the weakest, she can still improve but as of now she is not that good
@@justme-ee9xc bc lia doesn’t get lines that will suit her voice. she trained at a vocal academy in korea and she’s stable when dancing too. lia and yeji are both the top vocalists of itzy, with chaeryeong and yuna very close behind them.
@@nnursesharkkk yeji is actually the most stable in itzy, lia is definitely the best vocalist is her group but no where near being the best in 4th gen, and it does matter about lines she does covers on live stages and reality shows
not Rosé going viral for singing bad when 1) she sounded good during the actual performance and 2)she was actually really sick that day. my girl slayed
To talk about Jimin's vocals..his vocals are insane and as a person who knows him for over like 5yrs,I'm damn sure that day he might have criticized himself for the mistake and imagine seeing netizens write all these comments,how much more would have criticized on his own ability..and with one span of verse,you can't judge a person's ability to sing.. moreover,these guys overwork and might me tired.. about rosé,she might was be just playful during rehearsal and Lia,she has the ability..she does sound like a lead vocalist but she's is not less for taking the main vocalist position.. netizens just doesn't have anything to do other than to say nonsense
Nah, they actually doesn't have good singing skill. Lia has better support than both rose and jimin but still she is considered weak. Rose and Jimin both have nasally tone n high pitched tone . Sometimes it may sound very unique but most often it will sound very bad cuz they don't have any good technique and none support.
@@praveenw.4393 Yeah they don’t have good techniques their vocal sounds good doesn’t mean It's really good all the time..I got vocal training about 10yrs+( for no reasons) but i've some idea about vocal
Y’all gotta understand that BTS had 24 concerts in each of 2018-19 without proper rest. Continuous concerts can obviously ruin your voice(and we know BTS has so many hype songs in concerts which took a toll on Jimin,V’s voice). Look at Proof live performances, they’ve improved alot in 2021-2022.
@@loonaism6177 i think its not about her vocal problem, its sound like she was nervous on the stage, because if she sing on live radio, her voice are pretty good but if on stage its like... Errr..
this video just a rehearsal, so it doesn't matter, when the actual performance, she nailed it..just like Rosé as a rookie did so well performing a collaboration with a guy (i forget his name) and Jihyo
Those who are saying that the army is lying to save the jimin , they should first watch full video and then speak . And what they are saying is that army should agree with one thing, they themself should first know that itbis a matter of two places . First one from 2018 MGA award show and second one brazil show. In this video jimin sing fake love at MGA award show and he was ill and during brazil show his throat hurt so much that it's hard to breath . And those think that this is lie then go and check video and see full video you know everything. It does not matter you are army or not But truth is that he was sick . If you only decide to hate him then no one care . Because this show your jeaulousy you hate him because he was famous but you forget his hard work if you do not like him then do not hate him . Because a good person always support hard work people
I do agree with Jimin's one But this clip is very old ( 2017 ?) And he himself told in a interview that he's training to improve his vocals and you should definitely listen to recent songs before judging Everyone trains to improve
Itzy is not a group that need strong vocals, their focus is dance and rap so jyp might only have gave her the position to have at least one person that has vocal support, that’s why she sounds “weak” compared to other main vocalist, but you have to consider her role in the group, and you’ll see she fits perfectly in the description jyp wanted…
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I'm not a midzy but I have heard lia sing in Lee mujin's service and she is an incredible singer. I think in that stage she was just nervous. She has the best technique out of everyone in itzy but she's just not a very stable singer (as in when singing on stage and while dancing). Yeji's technique isn't as good as her but she's rather stable.
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I think their focus is mostly dance (they have really good stage presence tho). I am not sure they have good rap skills .. none of their members is even close to being one of the best female rappers of any generation
I think Lia is the perfect main vocalist for ITZY Like I'm not a professional singer but I've performed in an opera and in the O2 arena(it's a place in London actually BLACKPINK performed there for their world tour) for something called Young Voices but when I'm singing in a large group/with someone else or alone I sing in tune and nicely but when I sing solo or Infront of people I sing very out of tune because I get very anxious around people So I think their could be a similar situation with Lia
I agree with you i also sang n front but in the school stage but i was really scared and my voice kinda cracked but it was okay cause lots of people thought that i was really young and it happens it also happened to my sis
@@lizzymusa6525 look voice do cracks. Even great vocal group lime exo has these type of vocal cracks. That year bts literally had 24 concerts. It was literally the first time jimin had a performance like that since he and V were sick. And bcz of this one clip kpopies on Twitty drags him till this day.
Every singers are having their bad day. I'm a singer too and a musical theater actor, but I never criticized my fellow singers if ever they had mistake in a single performances. Because I know to myself that every singers are not perfect all the time. Even Mariah Carey had her own bad days in singing. It's just funny how these people who cannot sing at all, are brave enough to criticize these singers. Lol. If you cannot sing, and you are criticizing these idols, then it's the same thing as criticizing your own self even worse.
Listen people,like us they also have their good and bad days and rosé’s one was just a rehearsal she slayed on the stage and Lia’s one is anxiety while singing if you start panicking you voice with slowly close cause you to sound bad and Jimin’s one…I heard some comments say that he was sick during the video or like I said before he was probably having a bad day let them breathe
Rose improved a lot, the clip was during her rookie days . Her performance with Chanyeol, Jihyo and 10cm in MAMA was so good. Lia is a good singer but she really seems nervous during the performance. Its also understandable that she might be exhausted too since it was a concert.
am I the only one who thinks that the rosé one wasn’t that bad? seems like she was just having fun and goofing around for the most part and messed up a bit. but she wasn’t taking herself too seriously. rosé can definitely sing so I feel like there’s nothing really to worry about
first of all kpop idols cant be perfect all the time ! like just because they mistake ONCE u start hating on them like- just because they are known as the best vocalists in their group doesn't mean they have to sound best everytime WE STAN OUR AMAZING IMPERFECT KING N QUEENS
According to me, jimin is one of the best vocalist in kpop! And that video is old, also jimin cried just because of his voice and now has improved a lot!💜💜
@@minjeong384 listen to other performances and you’d realise he is a good singer. He (like everyone else) has moments where his voice cracks or he isn’t performing as well. Condemning a person because of one bad performance and believing that good singers have to sound amazing all the time is foolish
@@riveroverland5902 🌚 I used to listen they're performance,song blah blah and also i love jimins voice he's voice good in the song not in performance bcs he's voice cracks some time 🌚 and also u can't say that he was sick every single performance well I'm not your math teacher
Rosé’s one was a practice tho- Lia’s vocals were not even that offtone Jimin’s strength is his dancing, and that clip was 4 year old(I suppose) he has improved now. I’m not saying whatever these idols did is vocally correct, but it’s okay sometimes it happens.
I heard that jimin had a problem that day (not sure) just to say that criticisms isn’t a good solution and a lot of factors can be behind a bad performance
You crack your voice once after giving thousands of great performances and bitches gonna remember it for like forever.. 💀 Jimin literally have one of the most stable vocals in music industry..
Jimin literally is the least stable vocalist in k-pop, go outside and come out of your bts bubble. He has had more voice cracks that any other k-pop idol. I could show 10 performances where he messed up while singing live. He's a terrible live singer but y'all ego is so big to accept it.
Bro I feel bad that everyone is clowning them- I’ve been singing actively all the time (like officially in classes and choirs and events n stuff) for like the past 9 years and damn, I feel like the people who judge em don’t understand how hard it is to actually sing and improve if you weren’t born with a miracle voice. Espeically with how continuously they have to to sing, really strains the throat and makes it real painful. Also performing in front of thousands to millions of people makes it so nerve racking so it’s hard to sing truly to how you usually do. I love how understanding all the comments are 🤌💖
Im love singing and this problem randomly happen to me sometime i don't know why maybe its bc i didn't warm up my throat or my throat is not ready or maybe a bit sick im not sure bout it. anyway this problem is suck n i respect everyone who ever missed and brave enough to give themself a chance to sing in the state again
Burh that's clip are old !! How can you judge her by looking old video , now she already proved her self you haven't watch blackpink let's kill this love live profomace and what about on the ground high notes???
the people who say those things have to try to sing and then they can talk about other people because it's so difficult to sing well without an difficult
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How do you have 614 likes, a pin, but no comments!?
@@ENowak99 Because no one cares that they were first, 916 likes and I’m the second comment.
@@Straykids_OatMilk I personally don't care either, but usually there are people who are either like "lucky you got a pin and are early!" or people who say things like "no one cares"
I didn't comment "first" just to get pinned or that much of likes .
I said "first" just because I love her videos and I was the first person who watched it........I didn't even tell her to pin my comment but I'm glad that she did..
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watching the Lia one is painful cause you can actually see her panicking when her voice goes out of tune 😭😭 Lia fightingggg
I think those bad comments are actually hurting Lia. because I'm a singer, not a professional one, but everybody experience anxiety, and when I feel anxious oofff my throat start to close and shake, and my voice sound terrible.
@@rowanjoy419 that explain why i sings bad when i sing at kbox but sings really good while at home
@@carlxox797 yeah. That's why our bathroom is the best concert hall.
@@diarythatyouforgot8704 ahahaha so true
What is “out of tune” I am French 😭
This clips gone viral
Me who have seen it for the first time: 👁️👄👁️
Yeah fr
Me too. I never saw that rosé's clip
Fr, i was waiting for this
Me too
@@Apobangpo6888 y’a that clip of her was just her practicing she hit that high note really well on the performance 🤭
Someone Wise Said:-
You Can Do 99 Things Good For Them But The Will Remeber That 1 Bad One..
Yup 😢
Actually it was Albert Einstein who was called to do the times table so he got every single one right but he purposely messed up on one and everyone started laughing. He then gave a speech on how no one congratulated him for his rights but laughed at his wrongs.
One Stage is all it takes
Rosé: She was just practicing
Jimin: He was sick
Lia: She was panicked
Lia was actually nervous the whole performance
It's just a taylor swift song not celine dion's
@sashmitdas203. I think you are right❤
Hmm was jimin sick during his encore too? 😀
Excuses
The examples did them DIRTY💀💀
That’s the point though. the examples are the literal clips that made their vocals go viral for bad reasons as the title says
As they should. These people call themselves singers.
@@bobababy6089 And they are what about it?
@@bobababy6089 and they are singers. one instance doesn't define their entire career, smh.
@@bobababy6089 like you call yourself opinion?
They are also human that needs improvement on something, they weren't born perfect just like us non-celebrity people and not everyday they have good and perfect vocals
Criticism and hate is different. They did a mistake but look at them now, improving and doing great. Before you make fun of them, THINK!
Kinda out of context but I need to say this
It’s funny when some fans say things like what u said but when idols like Giselle from aespa made a mistake so many kpop fans hate her and don’t even try to understand her
They can sing well that's why they are idols. If they can't be good singers, what's the point of being idol?🙄
Yes but there's nothing wrong with pointing out their flaws so they can improve. Like you said they're human they have imperfections
@@afeliz2642 Exactly! People excuse their faves from every thing but throw a huge tantrum when idols like Giselle make a single mistake honestly I didn’t even notice it at first until people started pointing it out.
That same goes for aespa too they are human too (for their haters)
Jimin:Practice and improve
Lia:Never sing again!
Double standards
You mean Lia and Rosé, they both were trashed by others for their voice
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 No they mean Jimin get off easier/less harsh criticism because he's a guy while Lia has to suffer a lot more just because she's a girl
@@extravagantme1047you clearly didn't understand. they meant that rosé also experienced what lia did
@@aki_times_ten No, it's clear that you don't. Where do you see Rosé in the og poster's comment. They're talking about double standards when it comes to gender in kpop, not making a similarities and differences venn diagram about a girl that wasn't even mentioned in their comment.
Lol, he received a lot of criticism for that and he's also a human and he can make mistakes too yk?
These “fans” really be expecting idols to sound perfect all the time💀
They gotta realize that they are only humans just like us.
LMFAO we should get paid stacks like them too then. we're the same aren't we?
dude seriously, the 'US' is not a singer. wattahell
I agreed 💯
@@millihehethe thing is that you guys are jealous of what they have kings/queens also get a crown then why don't you think of being one because you can't
Yes but there should at least be an industry standard. Allowing idols to have proper vocal training before their debut is necessary, and also unfair to trainees who spend years practicing their singing only to get beaten by someone with just a prettier face than them.
Rosè was only practicing backstage and the other idol was helping her hitting high notes. Her actual performance was amazing with other idols.
The other idol was sungjae from BTOB
@@yu-mik6150 wasn't it Miyeon?
The who was helping rosie was sungjae
@@NoctLightCloud she debuted in 2018
Autotune sweetie xx
they need to know idols have bad days
edit: those ppl barking in the comments "youre just defending them" tf bruh. i literally said they have bad days i nvr said anything abt their singing abilities or defended them on their singing yall barking down the wrong tree. i was stating a fact. everyone has bad days and they could be having one. i still love the idols and their singing, if thats not what youre getting from this comment:)
Nah they as fans think they can perform than an artists who’s having 24 concerts each year (Jimin)
idols should also be trained more vocally since that’s their job… to SING…
@@jvangs5231 ok so?? Making mistakes is normal even if you're a professional lmao
@@jvangs5231 so idols also make mistakes are you a professional
@@diana913 thing is idols are always excused for sounding bad while singing live and i thought that the point of music is to, yknow, sing???? i wonder if these companies even train their idols to sing well since they’re making mistakes 24/7 and all their fans excuse them…. You can’t expect a doctor to make mistakes while performing surgery because he’s having a bad day, now would you?
Lia’s price tag cover was so good bruh-
Not live
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 so? That doesn’t take away the fact that she has amazing vocals and absolutely slayed the cover. You don’t need to always sing live to be good at singing.
they edited her voice in the studio. she's not good singing live
@@cristiansandovalmartini5332 She is good singling live and even if she sometimes sounds like she’s not good it’s obviously because of the hard dancing choreography Itzy does as well as pressure from fans and anxiety. You can’t really blame her for that and she recently had to go on hiatus due to high levels of anxiety and health hazards. I’m sure she sings much better when she’s alone or with her members and she’ll def sing a lot better when she comes back from hiatus.
@@cristiansandovalmartini53321 bad live performance does not impact Lia’s vocal ability. She sings much better live the most idols who lip sync almost every performance. JYP would not have made her main vocal if she wasn’t capable of seeing live. Lia has the best vocal range out of all Itzy members and IMO is most suitable for the position.
Lia was clearly extremely nervous, one bad performance doesn't mean someone is bad at what they do.
Netizens be like 'they need to improve' then go back to their mum's basement.
Lmao true💀✋🏻
🤣🤣🤣👌
Yes lol
Frr
LMFAOO
Rose wasn't even performing that on stage, they were just rehearsing.
And she killed the performance afterwards, and that’s what it’s about, so I don’t really get why people were hating on her
@@chief2689 it was decent , but she really didn’t deserve hate
Yes, it's just practice, but when she performs there are some crack on high notes.
*Not hate but fact.
@@kimtesa7534 can i get the video of that please
@@kimtesa7534 ohh is that so? Then pls name the performance or share the link.
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it doesnt matter hes fucked up
@@popcorn-ks7wj that's the worst comeback u could have made bruh
thats all excuses cause he was out of key 💀💀
@@nicoloabeltino1670 yes, BECAUSE HE WAS SICK
@@nicoloabeltino1670tht's so rare for him...nd he was sick
Rosè was warming up and she slayed that part in the concert......she's already least popular now I don't want my precious bias to be the most hated.....and about her vocals are amazing and even if someone took rest for 2 years and makes a single mistake *IT'S OK*
If sometimes she's outta tune then what's the problem it's ok!! And I am sure she or any other idol would regret it a *LOT* backstage......
Exactly and they are same people who appreciates people with pretty face no matter you are singing live or lipsyncing. Atleast my Queensé slays wth her live vocals...
Idols: voice cracks during high notes years ago.
Haters: omg another opportunity to ruin the idols image.
That rosé one was literally just practice. She killed it on the actually run of it
Yeah, she was just very nervous, and one of the kind idol actually comforted her about it
@@salwazhr107 She actually has a sore throat that time. They film that show after she perform in a music show.
Why was this clip made Public ?
@@Raphael-2 the Rosé clip? It was a bts... I think
@@salwazhr107 oh ok, so they actually released it on purpose. I was wondering if it was something that wasn't supposed to be seen.
Jimin and Rosé were literally sick 💀 of course they're not gonna sound their best.
They told you 😂😂 you guys are good at making up lies
Yes, they are always “sick” when they sound bad. Now try saying that about Beyoncé who performed while sick multiple times and still sounded great. They have poor vocal technique and that is the issue here.
@@fireproof2767 Why tf are you going to every damn comment commenting this? Beyonce has WAYY more experience with this. She obviously knows how to cope. You should NEVER strain your voice while being sick.
Jimin always sick😂
Why did Jimin's voice crack kill me LOL
He was sick that day
Also production team used wrong key that day
@@user-wc5pc I was simply joking, but... if someone needs a production team for autotune and things like that on a live show, it means they probably can't sing anyway.
And I mean that for any singer, not just Jimin or BTS.
@@reporterg08autotune what they don't need autotune their natural singing is good ??hey were doing 24 concerts we weren't even sure they will come that day there are tones of performances they sang so good stop judging over few sec clips
Rosé was warming up. At the end, on the stage she did the high note perfectly
@@Carlottinagiannuzziii sure girlie 😘
@@Carlottinagiannuzziii skz fan talking about autotune..
@@explicityy LMAO RIGHT
YEAH
Still sounded awful
Rosé didn't get criticism that time, they know that it was a rehearsal and she did completely good at the actual performance and proceeds to the next round
Ikr
Rosé didn't get criticism back then but now she gets criticized by some jobless kpop stans that have 0.001 idea about vocals and things 😭
Whats the name of the actual performance?
@@moonxyy_ fantastic duo
@@alfa3585 tyy
The fact that Rosé was literally warming up-
Bro jimin is slaying it idk why everyone critizing so much a peice of advice u should see urself first !
LMAOO THE WAY THAT GIRL LOOKED AT ROSE IM CRYING
she is cringing hard
I hate it when anti use this one clip of Jimin's voice cracking and make it as if his vocals are always that way. It's one time out of numerous fantastic performances.
Well they need something to bark on
@@m00nbow7 Lmaooo trueee...
Well and i guess we really need these types of voice cracking moments too.. Like that tell that there humans with flaws and thus prove they're singing live. Also I agree why they troll someone on one bad thing when they don't have the courage to appreciate like thousands of their superb performances
Fr tho it’s like they have nothing else to do
@@i.luvAgustD Truee
Lia has an amazing voice and she deserve her role, stop hating on her
“Fans” are so confusing….
when idols don’t perform enough they get annoyed
when they perform too much they get worried
when they lip sync they are fake
when they sing live and make mistakes they don’t have skill
How can someone improve when they don’t make mistakes and practice?
Performing in front of an audience feels different from a training room I hope everyone remembers that and be kinder or at least funny when giving critique
I am a singer. It's not easy to put your voice in the right position sometimes. It depends on the situation. Some days my voice sounds better than others, some days I can sing songs perfectly and other days I make mistakes. And it's even harder when you have to perform in a 2h concert where you have to sing and dance at the same time. Besides, these are very few videos of very specific situations, you cannot judge someone's vocal skills by just watching 2 videos of them. These idols have had great vocals moments too, as well as bad ones. Singing is a very hard skill to manage and I understand their voice cannot be great sometimes.
Yes you are right...i also sing , when i also sing the same thing happened with me sometimes it sounds soo well and sometimes it's not...
Idols also have some hard time and difficulties too..it's really not a small thing that u are dancing and singing at the same time for almost 2 hours..it gets really hard sometimes to breathe while dancing but I don't know why they see these all things why they don't see the reality 😖
"Im a singer" mmm okay 😕
You're a singer, so you should have a better idea who can sing and cannot sing, right? There is a difference between someone who is having a bad throat day and someone who singing like a dying whale. You're a singer, I get your point about people can make mistakes but idols are professionals that they should sing live sometimes with live vocals perfectly. They can't sing horribly everytime they are singing live. They are not Villi Minelli who only used recorded voice to gain success, aren't they?
@@brightstar7446 well these idols don't sing terribly everytime they're on stage. I've seen other live performances from them and their vocals were great. As I said these are very specific situations. I know they are not the best vocalists in the world and they have a lot of things to improve but still, they can sing. Although I gotta admit that idols' vocal training is usually very poor and it should be improved or something cause companies always focus on dance skills rather than vocals
@@marunux Not all idols are horrible singers, definitely. There are idols who are great singers AND great dancers, too. They are not called simply singers, not dancers, not MCs but idols. If we would go back to the start of idol culture in Korea, idols are not simple dancers or singers, they are all-rounder talents. Idols should start showing their singing prowess at some point in the height of their careers. I don't get it when fans always make excuses everytime their idols sing really horribly on stage. How some idols are great "singers" in albums but can't even give a single remotely decent live performance? How is it always when they are scheduled to perform live there is something not good on them? Is it still chances or excuses already?
I think the rosie one and jimin's one are old. They have improved a lot now
Ps: guys stop fighting! Why you all wanna create fanwars
Ofc, Jimin had throat pain that time due to continuous concerts going on.
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 ohh :(
@@chaelisa_stan oh don’t be sad, get used to big3 especially sm stans mocking Jimin over a 4 year old clip where he wasn’t well.
@@rikhmjustsomeguywithmousta4971 yeah 💀
Tbf, those were probably the clips that went viral, and it'd be misleading to put new clips since we couldn't know why the public thought what they did.
I went to the Phoenix concert where ITZY held their world tour for Checkmate. And I can assure you she sounded AMAZING! And if that happened, nobody noticed!😂❤
jimin was sick bruh
Edit: in this one scene. I'll defend him this once. I'm not gonna defend him the other times, but he was sick just this ONCE.
For 10 years?💀
@@winwinner6674what do you mean "fOr TeN YeArS", the man has been singing since debut without any training at first, and was always singing the high notes that females can't hit, he's been singing while dancing to the most hard dance spots given to him, since he travels the most on stage because of his TALENT, and he always killed it, but whenever he was having a bad day or he was sick you could tell that he was because he always sings live, unlike some kpop idols that move their hands up and down and call it a choreography, while lip syncing and being called 'perfect singers!' ,you said that he was singing for ten years and if he was bad like you said then he wouldn't be where he is now so the shit you said doesn't even make sense+ you don't know better than vocalists or voice coaches and musicians, so just get your hater ass out of here...
why is he always sick
@winwinner6674 Jimin had a sore throat that day that's why he sounded like that, and have you ever heard his vocals? his high notes are chefs kiss, go find something else to do instead of hating on idols.
@@I.like.sleeping532 bffr, he was never vocally trained or took singing lessons during trainee days or after the group gained popularity and money, not that there was something to be trained in the first place since he never had a good or pleasant voice for singing.💀
Not a BTS stan but Im a fan of Jimin. I really love his vocals. Voices do cracks, even if we speak sometimes our voices cracks 🤣 and considering that BTS are always busy doing tours, singing, and stuffs. They need REST!
It's not a crack, it's his way of singing
@@user-fo1ni8wz7f huh
Meanwhile my voice cracks all the time 🤣🤣
of course they need rest but i also think jimin kind of did it purposely to prove they were singing live
@@pastelcosplays that's very unconvincing
Jimin was sick. He couldn’t even perform at their own concert. The boys were tired and we thought they won’t attend that event ( and didn’t focus on voting) They almost fainted after the performances. But guess what? Jimin and Tae were criticized for having weak vocal. Jungkook for being inactive and giving no reaction. Jimin was bullied by netizens and media for many days as they waited that moment for whole life. People still come up with this clip to talk s**t about him. He barely have bad performances apart from that old time when he was not in good condition. He needed to train? No. needed to REST. That boy perfectionist ass trained himself harder than all trainers out here.
I bet you fucking sleep with him too from how much you supposedly know about him that day, by the way singer's are trained to not be too agresive with their voices if thry are sick, if he actually was sick or had the correct training he would know to not start BELTING for those notes and would've kept it low. Not to say he hasn't gone through enough hate but saying that we get our facts straight, he has worked hard an will till the forseable future.
Fr
This underrated comment need more praise
we get it
I am proud of you, you wrote well
Every singer has bad days, they are human 😊 no need to make up fake excuses, idk why k pop fans in particular feel the need to do this 💀
First see full video 2018 MGA award show and brazil show then comment
Sometimes you have a voice crack now and then
Its sad how kpop fandoms hate Jimin over a 2018 clip where he and V were sick, had 24 concerts each year in 2018-19. It’s obvious after so many continuous concerts their voice will break. Well as of 2021 Jimin got rest and his vocals have improved a lot like alot after Butter, atleast you can be relieved that he doesn’t break anymore. Please understand that BTS didn’t get proper rest in 2018-19, BTS was giving out concerts like mad(24 concerts in each year damn!)
😧😧
@@Igorbsouza lmao shut up and stop being ignorant. your stupidity is astounding
@@Igorbsouza wdym by that?
@@Igorbsouza no way you said that💀
@@Igorbsouza that one there was a violation personally i wouldnt have it
Rosé was literally warming up 😭
warming up out of tune
@@miaaa_c7lol no one cares abt the warming up voice at least she did the actual performance well
@@tahs597 I didn’t say anyone cared
@@miaaa_c7 ik cus I said that the warming up voice dosent matter 🤦♀️
Did everyone just forget that she had a major case of the flu that time? She was feeling really insecure that she couldn’t sing to her best ability because she was sick
Rose was just warming up that's why the high note didn't go how she wanted in the performance she did good
Lia was panicking and people sometimes have bad days plus just because she didn't sing perfectly that doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the title of main vocal and she is the strongest in vocals in her group
Jimin was sick that day but still performed and did the high note and honestly at the starting of the performance I didn't even notice his voice was cracking
People act like vocalists can’t have bad days.
Wasn’t that video of Rosé 5/6 years old. Do y’all not know people improve over time
Lol this just showing idols that received backlash from those videos that’s all
@@kookiemonster6035 & some people are still hating in this comment section because of 5/6 years old video
@@kookiemonster6035 cause that kind of people don’t move on..in my country we have phase “people already go to the moon..meanwhile she doesn’t even move from her bed..”
@@hani28304 then just ignore them..haters only want attention don’t give into them
Well she didnt lmao she only improved at modeling
Jimin:
has tons of videos that he sings perfectly.
has 1 video his voice cracked.
Nope. Ive heard many of his live that he cracked a lot. Not hating. This is a fact. But I dont blame Jimin coz he is not the main vocal. No issue
Jimin actually was sick and had a bad throat if you watch the behind the scenes of that performance it clearly says that he had a bad throat and he even said it himself.
@@user-ny3ut7bj3u pls this is the 1st time I'm hearing his cracking voice 😂😂
@@nehaa_b15 even if it did occur more than once, it's not like most of his performances are bad. He also had many amazing vocal moments. And on tour, he was often in a bad health condition which does affect singing. It just irks me when people make it seem that he can't sing at all because he makes mistakes... you know like a human being
And also there was some technical problem thats why background music is not much loud
What joy do some people find in criticizing other people ?
EVERY IDOL'S VOCALS ARE AMAZING IN THEIR OWN WAY!!
The Jimin one really upsets me that it's there because the production team used the WRONG KEY for the performance & he wasn't able to make it
Yes and he doesn't deserve all that hate afterall he's one of the most sweetest and talented idols
Ah really? 😂
@@yoonzino1044 yes! Sigh it was so upsetting
plus i heard that most of the bts members were sick that day too
@@astrideyre5114 aww that's so sad 🤣
rosè was sick that day btw, she had to sing but luckily sungjae was there! to help
How do u know she was sick?
@@Ichigo-dh9rd she mentioned she had a sore throat and she was scared of singing. but sungjae was really nice and gave her advice
@@Ichigo-dh9rd Because she didn't comment without knowing anything unlike you.
@@mateachhakchhuak3960 all they did was ask a question lol
@@_etherealisms You know, there are times when a question should be ask.
When other's ask a question doubtfully after you tell something, it make you sounds like you're lying, no?
Yall think idols dont have bad days/ sick days plus at least they actually sang live
BTW they have the most sweet vocals!!👀✨
i mean rosé was sick during the show but she still pulled it off anyways ..
You guys always say she was sick lmao ☠️
@@shialee6342 she really had sore throat... Everyone in rehearsal were kept saying that she is suffering from sore throat.. if you don't know dan don't even comment... You plonk*r
@@theshortmemes00 lmao she cant be sick everytime even in mv's her voice is so annoying she cant use techniques well and she sounds like a fucking crying baby EVERYTIME LMAOOO ☠️
@@shialee6342 okey and she was sick you want us to lie
@@shialee6342 now idols cant get sick now?? Talk about unrealistic expectations
Lia sounded fine though? Of course not amazing but it wasn’t bad
Check her full solo, make your own opinion. Imo she sounded quite good, considering she was obviously nervous etc. But I think she really did a good job!
@@trollsoifyoufightwithmeyou2472 jyp didn’t even train their vocals much mostly dance and rap
Plus it was after they Sang songs and danced !! I think she was nervous cuz it was their first concert ever
@@trollsoifyoufightwithmeyou2472 I think this performance was pretty bad for her standards as well. Lia has a really nice voice, she's easily the best vocalist in Itzy, but she runs out of breath fast and sometimes sounds flat. Her lower register is also way stronger than her high notes.
tbh she sounds way better than the clip shown here in this video. midzys who filmed her in the concert during this song posted the video and she was totally fine
Instead of pointing out their mistakes try to appreciate thier good works
wow.. it’s almost like, get this- they’re humans and they make mistakes and have off days just like the rest of us 🤯 crazy i know
That Rose one was a bit serious. I don't know much about her vocal agility, she really messed up that one.
But melisma is not easy stuff tho. Even well-trained singers struggle with that one.
she always strains her voice tho lmao
They were just practicing backstage though. It wasn’t a big performance and it wasn’t even one with other idols I don’t think? I think she’s usually fine like in her Masked Singer or Busking performances she sounds great with Suhyun and Onew etc. but the example used was the other idols trying to help her hit her notes so they sang it and then she tried to copy it but was struggling I believe
well its your opinion...
look at her high notes in Ready for love..
She is one of the best Vocalist in Kpop industry
@@__saima__ I love rose, but she isn't one of the best..
@@quartz2999 yes she is...
like you should watch her videos and live singing
atleast she dont use autotune or lipsync..
lia was nervous,tierd after preforming lots of songs and felt emotional seeing midzys ,like u can even see the tears in her eyes
Yes. Lia's voice went unstable cuz her mom was at the concert. It's totally reasonable to get your throat tight when you feel like crying.
tbh JYP's recording/livestream of the performances really did ITZY dirty. Like literally look at the recording any fan who went to the concert and recorded the performances live and in person, itzy sounded wayyyy better and slayyed.
even the best make mistakes because we are all human and our voices are produced by muscles that can be bad when we are also bad or sick
What- these idols have iconic voices
I think rosé was just warming up her voice many idols do like that and Lia was singing without autotune and background music and after their group performance it's difficult to sound good and jimin's one his voice cracked during the performance and he cried after the performance so let's not expect idols to be perfect all the time
Thank you for this. I see so many people hating on Lia for hee vocals in ITZY. She's more comfortable with songs like her cover of Let Me Love You. And Rosè was still getting used to her knew technique. And I'm pretty sure Jimin was either sick or had some throat pain all in all. We need to not judge idols based off of years old clips, around debut. They're still learning and improving.
I'm sorry and I'm not hating but "she was singing without autotune and background music", girl that is what live singing is supposed to be.
Some of y'all have literally forgotten what normal norms are because shit like back tracks and autotune even in a vocal performance are so normalised in kpop
Rosé was warming up there, she ATE that part on the stage. The reason why she was on top of naver searching cause her appearence there was amazing, knetz praised her
appearance, not vocals
@@zhisu2665 lol she win the runner up there for SINGING and Gummy herself chose her. Being praised by diva that rosé used to adore during her trainee days was a great achivement for a rookie idol. Her The King Masked Singer and Fantastic Duo episode are one of the highest rating. She was a rookie and compete against 10years+ experience musical actor, and Sungjae (BTOB), but she could be 2nd best is amazing
@@zhisu2665 she is not typical of idol would get praised just by her visual, she attracts people by her trendy n unique vocal that never heard in kpop. Her uniqeness definitely makes her different and stand out from others.
@@zhisu2665appearance means when she was there not looks 🤦♀️
Fr
First rose was warming up she sang better in show and proceed to second level
Second jimin was sick on that day
Every idol is a human no one can be perfect ❤❤❤❤
I probably have died lots of times already cause Jimins voice is heaven😍✨💜 And for that clip in the video, I think the production team used the wrong key, and Jimin was sick that time.
Yeah he had a sore throat
@miumojunaww what a dog 😂 go cry to mom bitch don't cry here
@miu mojun fr 💀
@miu mojun LOL! Savage!!
I'm sorry , but their right ! Rosé is my bias but sometimes she sing offtone and it's not being an hater to realize that some idol need to improve or that their teacher teaches them in the wrong way ! Cause if you know the REAL voice of Rosé you know she sing very well but in slow and deep song , but YG want here to sing nazal and high voice .
Edit: I know rosé sing well , and sound pretty good in high voice , but if you listen to raw vocal of rosé ( youtube or even their documentary on Netflix ) you can tell that it's not the best way for her to sing like that , and she can be off tone pretty easily. She has a pretty voice but not a lot of technique.
And I repeat : I LOVE ROSÉ ! And I think it's just wanting the best for her to realize that yg is ruining her voice by asking her too much and/or teaching her the wrong way .
It's not like Rosé sings offtone all the time. Sometimes she makes mistake like every human does. Ik yg wants to sing her in high pitch but still I won't say that she doesn't sound good in high pitch. Though it's forced but still she sounds perfect to me . It's just sometimes she sings outta tune which is a mistake
@@laylahh9889 education
@@praveenw.4393 Do you have any knowledge in singing or vocal coaching? The way the vocal trainers at YG teaches rose is a very somewhat old method and her voice isn't "naturally nasally"
Its the way the vocal teachers are teaching her which can obviously strain her voice or in instance make her sound a little offtune. Rose has a really nice when she sing in her natural voice. Yall will disagree with anything lmfao if you don't know how the industry works then be quite.
@@praveenw.4393 hey I am tenor so I can sing A#2 comfortably I can also go more deeper and can go high till E6 which is whistle but I don't know I can't sing comfortably in mid ranges can u help me I mean any vocal exercise
well yeah, pitch is one of rosé’s weaknesses and i used to think that she was one of the worst main vocalists in kpop but i think she’s gotten better! (although she still strains quite a lot)
The way people are criticizing every ITZY member over a single thing in the comments is disgusting for real, like y’all couldn’t do the quarter of what they did.
Finally someone who understands!!
Fr 😤
itzy is very talented, they probably have one of the best dance lines in kpop, and yuna is very good a rapping, they also have amazing stage presence and amazing songs, but amongst main vocalist lia is one of the weakest, she can still improve but as of now she is not that good
@@justme-ee9xc bc lia doesn’t get lines that will suit her voice. she trained at a vocal academy in korea and she’s stable when dancing too. lia and yeji are both the top vocalists of itzy, with chaeryeong and yuna very close behind them.
@@nnursesharkkk yeji is actually the most stable in itzy, lia is definitely the best vocalist is her group but no where near being the best in 4th gen, and it does matter about lines she does covers on live stages and reality shows
Me: "They better not show that sick clip."
Video: *Shows Jimin's sick clip*
Me: *RAGES*
It's actually nice to see this, this shows they are not fake, which makes their talent more beautiful.💖
not Rosé going viral for singing bad when 1) she sounded good during the actual performance and 2)she was actually really sick that day.
my girl slayed
To talk about Jimin's vocals..his vocals are insane and as a person who knows him for over like 5yrs,I'm damn sure that day he might have criticized himself for the mistake and imagine seeing netizens write all these comments,how much more would have criticized on his own ability..and with one span of verse,you can't judge a person's ability to sing.. moreover,these guys overwork and might me tired.. about rosé,she might was be just playful during rehearsal and Lia,she has the ability..she does sound like a lead vocalist but she's is not less for taking the main vocalist position.. netizens just doesn't have anything to do other than to say nonsense
Ok but how do u know jimin for 5 years😭 say you're his fan
Nah, they actually doesn't have good singing skill.
Lia has better support than both rose and jimin but still she is considered weak.
Rose and Jimin both have nasally tone n high pitched tone . Sometimes it may sound very unique but most often it will sound very bad cuz they don't have any good technique and none support.
As a girl vocalist myself Jimin's on stage vocals ain't even near stable. The one one in the group with stable voice is Jungkook
@@praveenw.4393 Yeah they don’t have good techniques their vocal sounds good doesn’t mean It's really good all the time..I got vocal training about 10yrs+( for no reasons) but i've some idea about vocal
Y’all gotta understand that BTS had 24 concerts in each of 2018-19 without proper rest. Continuous concerts can obviously ruin your voice(and we know BTS has so many hype songs in concerts which took a toll on Jimin,V’s voice). Look at Proof live performances, they’ve improved alot in 2021-2022.
Rosé was literally warming up 😂
The reason Rosie's voice is like that is because she has different vocal range.
Lia has showed us many times her vocals are good so one bad performance doesn't change the fact that she has great and sweet vocals
AGREE!!!
she has MULTIPLE bad vocal moments 💀
@@loonaism6177 i think its not about her vocal problem, its sound like she was nervous on the stage, because if she sing on live radio, her voice are pretty good but if on stage its like... Errr..
@@loonaism6177 Lol she has only one
@@loonaism6177lmao no
Rose that time at early of BP right. But I saw her duet with jihyo and other two male idols that was awesome a cool
this video just a rehearsal, so it doesn't matter, when the actual performance, she nailed it..just like Rosé as a rookie did so well performing a collaboration with a guy (i forget his name) and Jihyo
You mean the butterfly one where she is out of tune?
Those who are saying that the army is lying to save the jimin , they should first watch full video and then speak . And what they are saying is that army should agree with one thing, they themself should first know that itbis a matter of two places . First one from 2018 MGA award show and second one brazil show. In this video jimin sing fake love at MGA award show and he was ill and during brazil show his throat hurt so much that it's hard to breath . And those think that this is lie then go and check video and see full video you know everything.
It does not matter you are army or not
But truth is that he was sick . If you only decide to hate him then no one care . Because this show your jeaulousy you hate him because he was famous but you forget his hard work if you do not like him then do not hate him . Because a good person always support hard work people
Atleast they sang live unlike other idols
I do agree with Jimin's one But this clip is very old ( 2017 ?) And he himself told in a interview that he's training to improve his vocals and you should definitely listen to recent songs before judging Everyone trains to improve
Yes
Agree
Lia's vocals are killing me from inside 😭😭
Itzy is not a group that need strong vocals, their focus is dance and rap so jyp might only have gave her the position to have at least one person that has vocal support, that’s why she sounds “weak” compared to other main vocalist, but you have to consider her role in the group, and you’ll see she fits perfectly in the description jyp wanted…
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I'm not a midzy but I have heard lia sing in Lee mujin's service and she is an incredible singer. I think in that stage she was just nervous. She has the best technique out of everyone in itzy but she's just not a very stable singer (as in when singing on stage and while dancing). Yeji's technique isn't as good as her but she's rather stable.
@@nemeuseiquemeusouquemdirav7416 I think their focus is mostly dance (they have really good stage presence tho). I am not sure they have good rap skills .. none of their members is even close to being one of the best female rappers of any generation
not in a good way LMFAOOO
some of these comments are just disrespectful 💀 idols are people as well.
I find them extremely relatable as everyone even people who are the best of the bests all get mistakes
I think Lia is the perfect main vocalist for ITZY
Like I'm not a professional singer but I've performed in an opera and in the O2 arena(it's a place in London actually BLACKPINK performed there for their world tour) for something called Young Voices but when I'm singing in a large group/with someone else or alone I sing in tune and nicely but when I sing solo or Infront of people I sing very out of tune because I get very anxious around people
So I think their could be a similar situation with Lia
I agree with you i also sang n front but in the school stage but i was really scared and my voice kinda cracked but it was okay cause lots of people thought that i was really young and it happens it also happened to my sis
the jimin one was so funny lol
I'm jimin biased like hardcore and that was so funny to me💀
They did my man dirty ☠️,I just know he felt bad after that performance.
@@lizzymusa6525 oh lmao
@@lizzymusa6525 yeah he was crying
@@lizzymusa6525 lmao
@@lizzymusa6525 look voice do cracks. Even great vocal group lime exo has these type of vocal cracks. That year bts literally had 24 concerts. It was literally the first time jimin had a performance like that since he and V were sick. And bcz of this one clip kpopies on Twitty drags him till this day.
Fans when their idols struggle to sing or are out of tune: "THEY WERE SICK THAT DAY!!" 🥴
Omg why did i feel like agreeing😭 like obviously most of the time they would say that
Every singers are having their bad day. I'm a singer too and a musical theater actor, but I never criticized my fellow singers if ever they had mistake in a single performances. Because I know to myself that every singers are not perfect all the time. Even Mariah Carey had her own bad days in singing. It's just funny how these people who cannot sing at all, are brave enough to criticize these singers. Lol. If you cannot sing, and you are criticizing these idols, then it's the same thing as criticizing your own self even worse.
he's still sick until now because his voice is still like that 😅🤣
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PLSSS
Listen people,like us they also have their good and bad days and rosé’s one was just a rehearsal she slayed on the stage and Lia’s one is anxiety while singing if you start panicking you voice with slowly close cause you to sound bad and Jimin’s one…I heard some comments say that he was sick during the video or like I said before he was probably having a bad day let them breathe
Lia's voice is different, singular, unique. But it's not in a bad way. Her voice is an important addition to the group.
Rose improved a lot, the clip was during her rookie days . Her performance with Chanyeol, Jihyo and 10cm in MAMA was so good.
Lia is a good singer but she really seems nervous during the performance. Its also understandable that she might be exhausted too since it was a concert.
It was during her rookie days but she had to flu
am I the only one who thinks that the rosé one wasn’t that bad? seems like she was just having fun and goofing around for the most part and messed up a bit. but she wasn’t taking herself too seriously. rosé can definitely sing so I feel like there’s nothing really to worry about
thankfully you don't make music or sing because gurl that one was absolutely horrendous 😭
that was just a practice not even performance it's not that important at all, she slayed in the performance though
Not hating, but she sounded horrible there. Either way she did great on the actual performance
first of all kpop idols cant be perfect all the time ! like just because they mistake ONCE u start hating on them like- just because they are known as the best vocalists in their group doesn't mean they have to sound best everytime
WE STAN OUR AMAZING IMPERFECT KING N QUEENS
According to me, jimin is one of the best vocalist in kpop! And that video is old, also jimin cried just because of his voice and now has improved a lot!💜💜
Kpop idols bad at singing:
Their defensive fans : They are sick 💀
I mean for jimin, its kinda true.
@@bloomz2748 r u gonna say that he's sick since 2013 and still sick?
Agreed lol
@@minjeong384 listen to other performances and you’d realise he is a good singer. He (like everyone else) has moments where his voice cracks or he isn’t performing as well. Condemning a person because of one bad performance and believing that good singers have to sound amazing all the time is foolish
@@riveroverland5902 🌚 I used to listen they're performance,song blah blah and also i love jimins voice
he's voice good in the song not in performance bcs he's voice cracks some time 🌚 and also u can't say that he was sick every single performance well I'm not your math teacher
Rosé’s one was a practice tho-
Lia’s vocals were not even that offtone
Jimin’s strength is his dancing, and that clip was 4 year old(I suppose) he has improved now.
I’m not saying whatever these idols did is vocally correct, but it’s okay sometimes it happens.
Actually jimin was sick during fake love and his throat was sore but he still performed because he did not want to disappoint ARMY💜💜💜🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷
I was so sad after Lia because she was panicking after being out of tune JYP please give these girls rest
Lia's vocal is amazing it's not her fault that jyp didn't choose a good song for her
The song is good for her, she’s just nervous because that’s first time she performing solo and her first world tour
@@OnceUnnie6 yeah
There’s nothing easier than a taylor swift song 💀
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Yall blaming jyp for every fucking thing is so cringe like grow up she is not the best nor will be , not as main vocalist maybe sub or lead
Umm rose voice wasn’t feeling well during the show even sungjae was tryna help her
I heard that jimin had a problem that day (not sure) just to say that criticisms isn’t a good solution and a lot of factors can be behind a bad performance
Bro this is just a way Rosie warms up her voice...
You crack your voice once after giving thousands of great performances and bitches gonna remember it for like forever.. 💀 Jimin literally have one of the most stable vocals in music industry..
Jimin literally is the least stable vocalist in k-pop, go outside and come out of your bts bubble. He has had more voice cracks that any other k-pop idol. I could show 10 performances where he messed up while singing live. He's a terrible live singer but y'all ego is so big to accept it.
@@ihtes2236 Don't want to waste my time making a solo understand anything about Jimin's vocals when it's clearly visible that you hate him.
ok now stop lying lol
@@ihtes2236 jimin was sick you b****
Jimin is a really good vocalist but girl he's nowhere near stable
Bro I feel bad that everyone is clowning them-
I’ve been singing actively all the time (like officially in classes and choirs and events n stuff) for like the past 9 years and damn,
I feel like the people who judge em don’t understand how hard it is to actually sing and improve if you weren’t born with a miracle voice. Espeically with how continuously they have to to sing, really strains the throat and makes it real painful. Also performing in front of thousands to millions of people makes it so nerve racking so it’s hard to sing truly to how you usually do.
I love how understanding all the comments are 🤌💖
Getting hate for warming up is wild
Im love singing and this problem randomly happen to me sometime i don't know why maybe its bc i didn't warm up my throat or my throat is not ready or maybe a bit sick im not sure bout it. anyway this problem is suck n i respect everyone who ever missed and brave enough to give themself a chance to sing in the state again
The only reason they doubted Lia’s vocals is because they were used to her voice being covered by loud backtracks and autotune 💀
The rosè was is so funny LMAO why does she sound like that 😭
it was when she was a rookie and she was sick here, she was just practicing, the real performance she ate!
@@lol-zz2jw oh ok
@@lol-zz2jw true, but she was not sick.
Burh that's clip are old !! How can you judge her by looking old video , now she already proved her self you haven't watch blackpink let's kill this love live profomace and what about on the ground high notes???
@@myg8384 no nigga I don’t like blackpink!! and rosè is not the best vocal wise.. sure she has improved but she’s..
the people who say those things have to try to sing and then they can talk about other people because it's so difficult to sing well without an difficult