8 - another killer build dude! I love how your videos are packed with tips while you build. It’s cool to see that stuff used in real world projects. I have never seen anyone ebonize like you did but man, that looks amazing. I’ll definitely have to give that a try. Thanks for sharing and I’m eagerly awaiting the final product, it’s looks beautiful.
I would recommend general finishes water-based wood stain in black if you haven't tried it yet. I have used it on a bunch of projects to get a super deep black finish that looks great. Its super easy to apply and would save a ton of time.
I truly love your work and attention to detail. I have learned a lot watching you. Thanks! Even though I am not a fan of the all-black look, the technique is amazing, and I will use it on some of my builds in the future.
I love to hear that! I’m glad you’re finding the videos helpful. Yeah, the ebonizing is definitely a very specific look so it has to be done with purpose.
VII - wow, this cabinet is incredible! I love the black top and how you managed to pull that into the frames. I’ve never tried veneer but I would love to give it a shot although I don’t know that it’s as easy as you made it look. Lol- great work, I can’t wait to see the next one!
Nice work! I add some instant coffee powder to my iron acetate solution to give pine panels a nice brownish tint. The coffee also helps turn red oak super black.
7,5/10 Why not just use the blue tape when glueing the veneer? And why not just use something like a black monocoat? This seems like a whole lot of trouble for a similar result. Anyways, good build. Again. If you keep at it your channel is gonna really grow. Maybe take a little inspiration from bigger creators and add some of those nice beauty shots at the end. With the contrasty lighting and all that. Other than that, perfect video. I love that youre explaining everything so well too.
The gum tape doesn’t stretch like painters tape and is a lot thinner, so when the veneer is pressed it doesn’t leave lines. There’s a lot of ways to get black finishes, in this case I think the ebonizing just gives it a finish that look better than the other options. Glad you enjoyed this one, and don’t worry the beauty shots will be there in the finale.
7/10 seems about right, but honestly, I hate when you tubers do the whole start your comment with X to show you're paying attention, but I'll play your little game.... anyway, Dude, every project you make gets better and better. This is gorgeous, and those little walnut infill piece things really make the doors pop. Well done, brother.
@TimberBiscuitWoodworks word, also that wasn't supposed to come off as mean as it sounds. It was supposed to be more tongue in cheek, text doesn't translate tone well. 😅
7/9 - only one fingernail needed to grab the little guy hanging on! Nice project. I trust my miter saw as much as my table saw - but have a small hand one for delicate pieces (shop made miter)
I’m going to have to try ebonizing. Looks nice. How does durability compare to stain? I know it depends on top finish coat, but seems like a lot of work. Looks beautiful.
Good question! Because the solutions soak in, they are pretty deep in the wood grain. Your finish coat will do a lot to protect the surface as you said but I wouldn't worry too much about it. It is a lot of work but the process is pretty fun and the results are awesome so give it a go!
8 :) Quick quesion - you said that's "it's important to veneer both sides to prevent warping as the glue dries" does this also apply to contact cement? as it's already dry when gluing... Thanks!
You can get away with just one side with contact cement, but make sure that it’s not a raw veneer and that it paper backed. I’ve also had mixed results with bubbling using contact cement, so it’s not my recommendation to go that route.
Boom Shacka Lacka this is so freakin DOPE Shane!! Also as I'm watching the video wifey was bext to me doing something & randomly goes wow the guy you're watching fires out the jokes nonstop huh...😂 I was like... YUP!! Hoping all is well my friend, Dirty Jersey out!!
Another great video, as always. Are you in contact with any other popular RUclips woodworkers? I think people would love to see some collaboration projects.
IX/X - broke the tape, but kept the continuous pull. Okay... so many questions, but first - yes, my dude, you nailed it. That contrast is amazing and I can't wait for the finish application p0rn. I've done a lot of ebonization, but won't claim to be an expert. I did use just regular cold-brew tea (yes, Lipton) for a while, but noted it didn't do much for the depth of ebonizing. I also have found that if you cheat the vinegar volume up a bit, the steel wool will completely dissolve, no filtering needed. Now, what I've never done is the tea rinse and burnish step, which leads to my question: Is skipping the rinse and wipe the reason I've had pieces literally rust if I don't immediately finish them? Can't wait for the final episode of this!
Thank you man, I appreciate it! Yeah, if you don’t do those rinses then the iron shavings just sit on the surface since they don’t penetrate the wood. But that’s also minimized by filtering the solution since the larger ones are caught in the filter. Give both a shot and I’m sure you will love the results.
Can you veneer over veneer? I have this tv stand that is beat up with dings. I wanted to either apply contact vinyl paper or go over it with a veneer and resell it. Nice build! I really enjoy your videos and thought process.
You can, but it’s kind of tricky and has mixed results. I really depends on what the substrate is and what the veneer is like you’re laying it on. I’m glad you enjoy them! Thank you!
Checked other videos and IG for the vacuum setup and didn’t see anything. I know it’s just a backflow thing and a release with PVC tanks for a little more hang time. Maybe another channel covered this and you made it based on their design. That would explain why you didn’t cite it if it wasn’t your design.
Doesn't the ebonizing & post-ebonizing rinse end up raising the grain? Do you do a do a super light sanding pass or anything to smooth things out afterwards?
Great question, so the initial tea and iron solutions will pop the grain but the process of resanding and wiping away all the iron fibers with a shop towel kind of burnish the surface. For that reason when it comes time to do the rinse, the popped fibers have been removed.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks Interesting. I've done the iron acetate thing before, but found myself chasing my tail trying to get a smooth surface, but also not sand through the ebonized layer. I also couldn't get the surface clean. No matter how much I wiped or vacuumed, running a clean shop towel across the surface would leave the towel covered in black dust. Will have to give your method a shot the next time I break out the iron & vinegar.
Yeah I hear ya. That was one of the issues I’ve run into on past projects as well. The rinses do a fantastic job of removing the surface iron and the burnishing takes care of the grain.
This is one of those that I debated for a while. But I ultimately went with rift saw white oak, because you can still see the grain structure through the ebonization process and I wanted it to be consistent.
The gum tape holds the two sheets of veneer together during the glue up. The blue tape is only on there so you can apply the gum tape. Once the gum tape is dry the blue tape (on the glue side) is removed.
Haha, well played. I actually mentioned that a few videos ago, but I like audio books when I’m doing things that I don’t really have to be alert for like sanding. When I do need to pay attention I put on music I know so it’s just background noise.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks It took almost half an hour of my life to see ordinary video of woodworking that has nothing along with it's dark side. Why to name it like that?
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7.9, The east german judge is a hardass
Haha
8 - another killer build dude! I love how your videos are packed with tips while you build. It’s cool to see that stuff used in real world projects. I have never seen anyone ebonize like you did but man, that looks amazing. I’ll definitely have to give that a try. Thanks for sharing and I’m eagerly awaiting the final product, it’s looks beautiful.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it! This has been a fun project so far and I have some pretty cool plans for the base.
I would recommend general finishes water-based wood stain in black if you haven't tried it yet. I have used it on a bunch of projects to get a super deep black finish that looks great. Its super easy to apply and would save a ton of time.
I haven’t used that one yet, I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.
Love the video quality. Deserve a lot more subscribers! Keep it up!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Dude that build is insane. I love the trim work !!!
Thank you man! That trim really pops off the white oak.
Looking super sharp! Love the new drill press setup by the way.
Thank you! Yeah, it’s a lot better than the Ryobi I had haha
I'm impressed.
Win
I truly love your work and attention to detail. I have learned a lot watching you. Thanks! Even though I am not a fan of the all-black look, the technique is amazing, and I will use it on some of my builds in the future.
I love to hear that! I’m glad you’re finding the videos helpful. Yeah, the ebonizing is definitely a very specific look so it has to be done with purpose.
Looking amazing can’t wait to see it finished. Great job
Thank you! It’s gonna be a stunner
Beautiful, great design great craftsmanship..
Thank you!
VII - wow, this cabinet is incredible! I love the black top and how you managed to pull that into the frames. I’ve never tried veneer but I would love to give it a shot although I don’t know that it’s as easy as you made it look. Lol- great work, I can’t wait to see the next one!
Thank you! Yeah, you should give it a go. It isn't as intimidating as it sounds; you just have to work with intent.
Loving the contrast
It is quite stark!
Nice work! I add some instant coffee powder to my iron acetate solution to give pine panels a nice brownish tint. The coffee also helps turn red oak super black.
Thanks! Yeah the iron acetate reacts pretty quickly to oak.
So many takeaways from this vid - def a IX out of X 👍
Happy to hear that!
Nice work,
Thank you!
9.9/10
This project is looking beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing!
Thank you for watching!
Cool, interesting and I can't wait to see how it turns out. ❤❤
Thank you! It’s coming along nicely.
8/10 Loved your coaching on the veneering.
Heck yeah, happy to hear that!
"That's a grave mistake" - classic 😂
Haha, I love when the shoe fits.
Beautiful!
Thank you!
Love your channel! Keep it up! Good job
Thanks for the support!
10/10! Not judging at all but I think it's funny that you use a $500+ crosscut sled but you haven't picked up a second featherboard yet.
Hahaha, the irony is not lost on me either! Oh, and would you look at that, “new item in the cart.”
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks Just doing my tiny bit to make the RUclips woodworking world safer. 😉
I appreciate it!
I remember rails and stiles because the I in stile is vertical.
I like that one too!
7,5/10
Why not just use the blue tape when glueing the veneer?
And why not just use something like a black monocoat? This seems like a whole lot of trouble for a similar result.
Anyways, good build. Again. If you keep at it your channel is gonna really grow. Maybe take a little inspiration from bigger creators and add some of those nice beauty shots at the end. With the contrasty lighting and all that. Other than that, perfect video. I love that youre explaining everything so well too.
The gum tape doesn’t stretch like painters tape and is a lot thinner, so when the veneer is pressed it doesn’t leave lines. There’s a lot of ways to get black finishes, in this case I think the ebonizing just gives it a finish that look better than the other options. Glad you enjoyed this one, and don’t worry the beauty shots will be there in the finale.
7/10 seems about right, but honestly, I hate when you tubers do the whole start your comment with X to show you're paying attention, but I'll play your little game.... anyway, Dude, every project you make gets better and better. This is gorgeous, and those little walnut infill piece things really make the doors pop. Well done, brother.
Well, I appreciate you playing along haha. Thank's mate, I think the contrast really works with this design.
@TimberBiscuitWoodworks word, also that wasn't supposed to come off as mean as it sounds. It was supposed to be more tongue in cheek, text doesn't translate tone well. 😅
Haha, no worries!
7/9 - only one fingernail needed to grab the little guy hanging on! Nice project. I trust my miter saw as much as my table saw - but have a small hand one for delicate pieces (shop made miter)
See that’s my feeling as well haha. I wish I had a trustworthy miter setup but I’m just used to the table saw at this point.
I’m going to have to try ebonizing. Looks nice. How does durability compare to stain? I know it depends on top finish coat, but seems like a lot of work. Looks beautiful.
Good question! Because the solutions soak in, they are pretty deep in the wood grain. Your finish coat will do a lot to protect the surface as you said but I wouldn't worry too much about it. It is a lot of work but the process is pretty fun and the results are awesome so give it a go!
0 - Rebelling. Are those the Harbor Freight band clamps? If so, how do you like them given their price?
Cabinet is looking sharp 👍
Haha! No, those are the Bessey strap claps but they are great! Thank you!
Great Video! Can you say which glue you used for the commercial veneer? You mentioned it was a cold press glue, but not by name. Thanks!
Thanks! Yeah, I used x-press glue but tite bond also makes a cold press glue that I’ve had good results with.
VI thank you
Thanks for watching!
very cool. Love it!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
8 :)
Quick quesion - you said that's "it's important to veneer both sides to prevent warping as the glue dries"
does this also apply to contact cement? as it's already dry when gluing...
Thanks!
You can get away with just one side with contact cement, but make sure that it’s not a raw veneer and that it paper backed. I’ve also had mixed results with bubbling using contact cement, so it’s not my recommendation to go that route.
Boom Shacka Lacka this is so freakin DOPE Shane!! Also as I'm watching the video wifey was bext to me doing something & randomly goes wow the guy you're watching fires out the jokes nonstop huh...😂 I was like... YUP!! Hoping all is well my friend, Dirty Jersey out!!
Thank you buddy! I'm glad I could bring some laughs your way too. Hopefully they were spouse approved haha
She was chuckling 🤣🙏
That's a W
Another great video, as always. Are you in contact with any other popular RUclips woodworkers? I think people would love to see some collaboration projects.
Thank you! I know a few, that might be something we do in the future. Right now this is all still my night and weekend project.
IX/X - broke the tape, but kept the continuous pull. Okay... so many questions, but first - yes, my dude, you nailed it. That contrast is amazing and I can't wait for the finish application p0rn.
I've done a lot of ebonization, but won't claim to be an expert. I did use just regular cold-brew tea (yes, Lipton) for a while, but noted it didn't do much for the depth of ebonizing. I also have found that if you cheat the vinegar volume up a bit, the steel wool will completely dissolve, no filtering needed. Now, what I've never done is the tea rinse and burnish step, which leads to my question: Is skipping the rinse and wipe the reason I've had pieces literally rust if I don't immediately finish them?
Can't wait for the final episode of this!
Thank you man, I appreciate it! Yeah, if you don’t do those rinses then the iron shavings just sit on the surface since they don’t penetrate the wood. But that’s also minimized by filtering the solution since the larger ones are caught in the filter. Give both a shot and I’m sure you will love the results.
8/10... it was only a tiny tear
Do you really value having both sides of the woodpeckers sled or do ya think left is enough?
There are certain miter cuts that I need both sides for but I would say start with the left and see how often you need the right.
Can you veneer over veneer?
I have this tv stand that is beat up with dings. I wanted to either apply contact vinyl paper or go over it with a veneer and resell it.
Nice build! I really enjoy your videos and thought process.
You can, but it’s kind of tricky and has mixed results. I really depends on what the substrate is and what the veneer is like you’re laying it on. I’m glad you enjoy them! Thank you!
8 - Have you tried Mohawk NGR jet black stain? You get those same results with way less effort. Give it a try! It works great!
I have not tried that. I feel like this process just gets me in touch with my pure woodworking side. But with that said, I’d love to give it a try.
i love spending time in the damp dark hole
Living that Hobbit lifestyle
Let’s go!
Haha, enjoy!
Checked other videos and IG for the vacuum setup and didn’t see anything. I know it’s just a backflow thing and a release with PVC tanks for a little more hang time. Maybe another channel covered this and you made it based on their design. That would explain why you didn’t cite it if it wasn’t your design.
It’s a kit from veneer supplies. I didn’t mention because I am working on a potential future project with them.
Doesn't the ebonizing & post-ebonizing rinse end up raising the grain? Do you do a do a super light sanding pass or anything to smooth things out afterwards?
Great question, so the initial tea and iron solutions will pop the grain but the process of resanding and wiping away all the iron fibers with a shop towel kind of burnish the surface. For that reason when it comes time to do the rinse, the popped fibers have been removed.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks Interesting. I've done the iron acetate thing before, but found myself chasing my tail trying to get a smooth surface, but also not sand through the ebonized layer. I also couldn't get the surface clean. No matter how much I wiped or vacuumed, running a clean shop towel across the surface would leave the towel covered in black dust. Will have to give your method a shot the next time I break out the iron & vinegar.
Yeah I hear ya. That was one of the issues I’ve run into on past projects as well. The rinses do a fantastic job of removing the surface iron and the burnishing takes care of the grain.
10/10 On the Dad puns as well…
Thanks mate!
Lol - ""...This doesn't hurt the tree"
Can’t ever be too careful. Haha
IX- nice build sir. Keep up the great work.
Haha, yes! Thank you!
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks I figured you would like the use of Roman numerals!
Definitely a X/X response.
cool
Thanks!
8 - why did you choose white oak if you were ebonizing? Wouldn't a red oak cost a lot less but still end up looking the same?
This is one of those that I debated for a while. But I ultimately went with rift saw white oak, because you can still see the grain structure through the ebonization process and I wanted it to be consistent.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks makes perfect sense! Thanks for explaining your thought process
Not a problem, it was definitely a tough decision given the cost but I think it worked out well.
Dumb question, can you use contact cement to fix wood veneer to MDF?
Not dumb at all. I know some people like contact cement for veneer and it work okay on MDF, I just think cold press glue is a better way to go.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks appreciate the lightening quick response!!
No worries!
Hi there .What was the first coating you put on the wood before the acetate.I couldnt quite catch it?
No worries, the first solution is quebracho powder tea.
What bandsaw do you have my man?
It’s the Grizzly 17” - G0513ANV
8.5 - What is the purpose of the gum tape?
The gum tape holds the two sheets of veneer together during the glue up. The blue tape is only on there so you can apply the gum tape. Once the gum tape is dry the blue tape (on the glue side) is removed.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks ahhh ok thanks
No problem!
What miter slead is that
It is the auto scale sled from woodpeckers
7.88762527483819/10 (as a metric user, I felt the need to imperialise it 😜) what do u listen to when you’re working with wood?
Haha, well played. I actually mentioned that a few videos ago, but I like audio books when I’m doing things that I don’t really have to be alert for like sanding. When I do need to pay attention I put on music I know so it’s just background noise.
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7.... Such a stupid game...
Nice work
Haha, can’t win em all. I appreciate it though.
Sup
How's it hang'n
I am in the midle of the video and still waiting for that bloody dark side of woodwork, but I see just boring process of ordinary work
Damn. Based on the tone of your comment, I’m going to guess you’ve already been lost to the dark side.
@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks It took almost half an hour of my life to see ordinary video of woodworking that has nothing along with it's dark side. Why to name it like that?
From the looks of it, it sounds like you weren’t very busy, buddy..
@@SauliusKAYwhat an ordinary jackass you are 😂 I bet you ask to speak to the manager regularly.
1 out of 10.... comment.
Oof a harsh score from the judges
8/10 good pull
“Would pull again.”