A Brief Conversation about Ephesians with Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger

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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
  • When it comes to women in ministry who know a thing or two about studying the Bible, Jackie and her two guests, Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger, have a ton to offer. On this episode of With The Perrys, they sit down to discuss a new Bible study resource called "Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice." Jackie, Jasmine, and Melissa talk about the way they went about writing this Bible study together so that we can more clearly understand how we are oriented to God through Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit.
    "Ephesians: A Study of Faith and Practice" will be released in June 2024. Learn more about it here.
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  • @marciemae1980
    @marciemae1980 Месяц назад +228

    Jackie has the most interesting friends. I’m praying that God will allow me to find my “tribe “…a group of women that I can share with AND glean, and we all grow in the Lord TOGETHER. ❤

    • @user-zm9db9si5m
      @user-zm9db9si5m Месяц назад +9

      This has been my prayer

    • @aliciawilson2459
      @aliciawilson2459 Месяц назад +4

      Have you checked out their podcast "Let's Talk" before?

    • @jenniferoliver8663
      @jenniferoliver8663 Месяц назад +6

      This is a heart desire of mine ❤😢

    • @dredayful
      @dredayful Месяц назад +2

      That part ❤

    • @marciemae1980
      @marciemae1980 Месяц назад +1

      @@aliciawilson2459 I have not, I hadn’t even heard of it until today! But I’m going to go back and listen to some of those episodes.

  • @Ellington3
    @Ellington3 Месяц назад +192

    I think part of the problem is that we are not reading the Bible with an understanding of historical context with an eye how it relates to us today.

    • @elsbeth1
      @elsbeth1 Месяц назад +7

      say it louder for the people in the back. I've been looking into this and it's eye opening for sure

    • @anonimome
      @anonimome Месяц назад +3

      This is called the difference between exegesis vs eisegesis. And it is shocking how many pastors don’t know what the words mean or how to do proper exegesis 🤦‍♀️

    • @Blovely007
      @Blovely007 Месяц назад

      @@anonimomewhere do we learn fire to do this?

    • @anonimome
      @anonimome Месяц назад +4

      @@Blovely007 I learned this in seminary. Exegesis is basically doing a linguistic, cultural, political, geographical, and anthropological deep dive into the text. The text isn’t being written in a silo. It’s being written to a particular audience addressing specific things that are happening in that time and space. I 💯 percent believe God still speaks to us in modern times through the text, but if you don’t know how to do proper exegesis you will end up with bad theology every 👏🏽 single 👏🏽 time 👏🏽. That’s how slave owners justified slavery via bad exegesis. To see what stellar exegesis looks like, check out Philip Payne’s “Man and Woman: One in Christ.” Hands down the BEST exegetical study on women in the Bible.

  • @EverythingEbb
    @EverythingEbb Месяц назад +85

    Indicative - facts, signs
    Imperative - actions; commands

  • @sleevedtwins
    @sleevedtwins Месяц назад +61

    I just gotta say it… I miss this podcast 😔 hearing powerful, intelligent women speak on the Bible in such a clear point of view is amazing ❤

  • @christinajanner1500
    @christinajanner1500 Месяц назад +62

    Ain’t even a full minute in & we’re already preaching, “to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord”. That’s a whole praise.

  • @AntoniaOkafor
    @AntoniaOkafor Месяц назад +51

    We want more Bible studies from you Jackie! Video Bible studies, please 🙏🏾

  • @nursed.porchae990
    @nursed.porchae990 Месяц назад +24

    I absolutely love this! We've started reading as a family and I am so blown away at how much I've learned from both my husband and children by way of holy spirit. Group bible study is so important and to pray before reading, Holy spirit will show up and show out! 🙏🏽

  • @janejanelady
    @janejanelady Месяц назад +17

    It’s a “let’s talk “ reunion ! Woo hoo 👏

  • @charleslewisanthony6471
    @charleslewisanthony6471 Месяц назад +23

    Yay! I went to Jackson State also!🤗
    Read Philemon. Oniscemus was a slave who escaped and got saved. Paul wrote Philemon, who was his master to let him know Oniscemus was coming back as his brother in Christ.

  • @andresgutierrez2757
    @andresgutierrez2757 Месяц назад +3

    Something that I was taught and I recognized that Jackie had done in her Jude study was this cascading set of questions.
    Provide about five observation questions. This helps my members focus on the concrete stuff of the verse.
    Then I provide about three contextual questions. Jackie did an awesome job of this by providing the context of common Hellenistic writing styles in the Pauline letters then asked about their significance.
    Finally providing two open-ended questions so that my members can really build on the stuff we discovered in the verse beforehand.
    I find this method really helps build on the context of the verse so people aren't just going under their feelings and prevents crickets from open-ended questions they felt were too difficult to answer.
    Thank you so much for all of your time and energy into these studies.

  • @singasong1530
    @singasong1530 Месяц назад +8

    I'm from Jackson, MS and a graduate of Jackson State (currently living in NJ), and Jasmine's link to my hometown was the Godwink I didn't know I needed. ❤

  • @Amarisg93
    @Amarisg93 Месяц назад +11

    Please bring them again❤

  • @felicierroco
    @felicierroco Месяц назад +6

    I loved this style of Bible study and discussion. I hope you guys do more of this study.

  • @abigailcrispin4957
    @abigailcrispin4957 Месяц назад +4

    4:35 I just love how you all spoke to my soul about the confusion on when to place dashes and semi colons in text, I feel so seen right now

  • @esmerayolivas3533
    @esmerayolivas3533 Месяц назад +7

    I loved this, so refreshing and smart

  • @moet131
    @moet131 Месяц назад +19

    Jasmine's hair is beautiful

  • @princezsarfo1
    @princezsarfo1 Месяц назад +3

    Not me finding out about Let's Talk on today! I am excited!

  • @GabrielleKynis
    @GabrielleKynis Месяц назад +3

    any submission to a difficult situation is God reminding us that the battle is His! God can bring us through anything and everything if we would ultimately submit to Him which in turn means to listen when he say submit to x,y,z.God is good!

  • @sibongisenisakhele3114
    @sibongisenisakhele3114 Месяц назад +2

    Appreciate the rich insights! Blessed

  • @lauramczig
    @lauramczig Месяц назад +1

    Our pastor has been preaching through Ephesians this year. Watching this has helped to cement that teaching in my mind and bind it to my heart. Thank you! 💕

  • @QueenZsWorld
    @QueenZsWorld Месяц назад +2

    when she was talking about knocking down the idols that are present in parenting... I have never heard a parent admit that or say it like that. I'm praising God for you, Melissa Kruger. that is deep. your book is going to set so many people free--both parents and children.
    (and that is how you use a dash mid-sentence lol I was also a grammar / English nerd)

  • @cassieshirah969
    @cassieshirah969 Месяц назад +2

    I have been longing for a study on Ephesians, so thank you ladies so much. I can't wait to get it!

  • @Lohuma.Nd_
    @Lohuma.Nd_ Месяц назад +3

    I just love it here!💕

  • @janiyah7366
    @janiyah7366 Месяц назад +5

    i smiled so hard when i saw the thumbnail !!

  • @DumebiOnoh-mz8oo
    @DumebiOnoh-mz8oo Месяц назад +1

    My girlssss! I missed y’all on Let’s Talk. Such insightful conversations. So glad to see you 3 coming together like this again! 🫂❤

  • @templefuel5408
    @templefuel5408 Месяц назад +2

    26:21 THAT PART! This is good🔥

  • @okenyjordan1678
    @okenyjordan1678 Месяц назад +9

    Add a few more cities ... We are out here in Toronto, Canada!

  • @elliem1606
    @elliem1606 Месяц назад

    Wonderful podcast. I could listen to the three of them talk all day. I am definitely interested in all of the books mentioned and for the record, my dear Mrs Perry, 35 is very very young! Blessings to you hubby and family❤

  • @0321Anastasia
    @0321Anastasia Месяц назад +1

    Jackie is too funny 😂 . This was a fun and well needed episode.

  • @MotherMogashoa_Mmathapelo
    @MotherMogashoa_Mmathapelo Месяц назад +15

    "you're the English person" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lisathaleni1338
    @lisathaleni1338 Месяц назад +9

    Melissa and Jackie forgetting Jasmine’s birthday is so real😭😭🤣🤣adulting

  • @rhondamckinley4373
    @rhondamckinley4373 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you!

  • @TheNyah333
    @TheNyah333 Месяц назад +2

    Let's go JSU🎉🎉🎉

  • @randomreality522
    @randomreality522 Месяц назад +2

    Look at God ! Coming through with confirmation because I just started the plan on the Bible app

  • @gloriambulacharles8449
    @gloriambulacharles8449 Месяц назад

    I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE BOOK. I have been waiting to read something else from Jackie. She writes so well.

  • @vickihammond8403
    @vickihammond8403 Месяц назад +7

    What a sweet group of friends! You all are blessed. I appreciate listening to what the Lord reveals to you. Also, Jackie, where did you get that couch? I adore the style and the color...and it would be perfect in my living room. Please, do more Let's Talk reunions. We Christian women need to be exposed to more thinking women friendships. I long for it. thanks and God bless.

  • @Kellys_Diary
    @Kellys_Diary Месяц назад +3

    shame, not Jackie being shy receiving love and expressing love and Jasmine just pushin her buttons doing it hahahah! cute relationships in Christ!🙃

  • @temmietaft2552
    @temmietaft2552 Месяц назад +3

    I loved this video ✝️

  • @mtaulton51
    @mtaulton51 Месяц назад

    I love this reunion!

  • @ashleerogers8664
    @ashleerogers8664 Месяц назад +2

    Oh yes❤.

  • @Xoxoquan
    @Xoxoquan Месяц назад +4

    39:27 as I have my neck fan sitting outside watching this podcast 😂😂

  • @mckennasheetz2577
    @mckennasheetz2577 Месяц назад +1

    Ayyy love y’all
    Come to worship night in San Luis Obispo Sunday night

  • @chriswiththeassist2733
    @chriswiththeassist2733 Месяц назад

    Yay! This is taking me back to 2020-22 working at Amazon sneaking my headphones in a busting out shifts listening to y’all 🫶🏽🥹!
    Nostalgic 😭🙌🏽!
    And nowww I get to look at yall 🤣!

  • @beechannel27
    @beechannel27 Месяц назад +1

    This was so good. 😊❤

  • @HaleemaMcCree
    @HaleemaMcCree Месяц назад

    I can’t wait to get this!

  • @HeartCheckpod
    @HeartCheckpod Месяц назад +1

    jasmineeeeeee teachhhhhh girl!

  • @journeywithjasmine_
    @journeywithjasmine_ 29 дней назад

    I love this

  • @Faithwalk212
    @Faithwalk212 Месяц назад +3

    Yes, my late pastor would check you, or should I say, teach correctly by letting you know in a small group if you are incorrect about the Bible. She had the
    " Teaching Spirit " for that I am disciplined.

  • @cameophillips
    @cameophillips Месяц назад +1

    This is good!

  • @bjoneswhite306
    @bjoneswhite306 Месяц назад +2

    The Lord actually has me reading Ephesians. I have read it almost everyday except this past week. Still trying to figure out exactly why though.

  • @whitneyallen540
    @whitneyallen540 Месяц назад +8

    I need yall to come to Northern Cali

    • @kaylachiles6586
      @kaylachiles6586 Месяц назад +3

      Right! Nobody comes to NorCal. I would love them here.

    • @Its_tiy
      @Its_tiy 13 дней назад

      RIGHTTTTT

  • @tasha6734
    @tasha6734 Месяц назад +2

    Hope Austin texas is on the list

  • @comedianandreaj2917
    @comedianandreaj2917 Месяц назад

    Not a JSU grad but born and raised in Jackson! S/O to our HBCU!

  • @ines-simpson
    @ines-simpson Месяц назад +11

    What about when teaching adults the bible with learning disabilities? eg: autism, adhd etc..

    • @vee22354
      @vee22354 Месяц назад +2

      Megan Ashley and Preston Perry touched on this with the InTotality Podcast

  • @BelovedofYahua
    @BelovedofYahua Месяц назад +1

    You are all "real"and love that

  • @miriamrabbani8840
    @miriamrabbani8840 Месяц назад

    This was good! The favorite things part is hilarious.

  • @Jirehs.society
    @Jirehs.society Месяц назад +2

    🙏🏽

  • @roseclermont3221
    @roseclermont3221 Месяц назад +2

    Add more cities pls in FL!!

  • @Superiorman923
    @Superiorman923 Месяц назад +2

    I wish AZ would get some love at some point lol

  • @jofullofbeauty_
    @jofullofbeauty_ Месяц назад +3

    Please add more New York City dates. So sad it’s sold out!😢

  • @ebonys3032
    @ebonys3032 Месяц назад +1

  • @SoFocusedonTheMark
    @SoFocusedonTheMark Месяц назад +2

    Can we preorder? I would love this to be our next Bible study for my church. Super excited.

  • @user-eg2sw6gn2g
    @user-eg2sw6gn2g Месяц назад

    I think historical context is wonderful regarding slavery. I do believe the practical application of the workplace is a valid interpretation spiritually . With regards to applying it to our lives today. Just a little hit at Jackie😂

  • @alexn8767
    @alexn8767 Месяц назад

    The tour is literally sold out!!!! Omg I’m so jealous! I would do Michigan but there are no VIP tickets left. Ima be better next year 😮😢😂

  • @beholding3
    @beholding3 Месяц назад +3

    Can DC get a second date? Because the first time I looked awhile ago, it was already sold out😭😭

  • @leilaniwilliams1944
    @leilaniwilliams1944 Месяц назад

    y’all are speaking a word and i’m truly grateful!! the world needs more of yall keep letting god lead you all🙌🏽🙌🏽 I was wondering if you had any recommendations for a good bible study book that includes more than one book of the bible?

  • @wayNAY87
    @wayNAY87 Месяц назад

    Can you do another episode with Jasmine Holmes 😭

  • @sassyasme1236
    @sassyasme1236 Месяц назад +3

    Dallas was SOLD OUT 😢

  • @just.laur3n
    @just.laur3n Месяц назад +1

    I always hear people say "slaves obey your masters", but the KJV says "servants obey your masters", which is largely what I think was being referred to.. if you are put in a position to serve, whether through leadership or subordination in any way at all, do so as unto God

  • @HisGraceAndMercy
    @HisGraceAndMercy Месяц назад

    Where did Preston get his hoodie???

  • @nythibodeaux6739
    @nythibodeaux6739 Месяц назад +1

    Omg I went to the website and everything is sold out from the merch to the tickets on the tour🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @tiffanyagyarko6295
    @tiffanyagyarko6295 Месяц назад

    Can y’all talk more about being a part of a house church (@Jackie and Preston)

  • @nathanbourjolly8328
    @nathanbourjolly8328 Месяц назад +3

    With the Perry’s is missing a Perry 😬

  • @tayloranderson9972
    @tayloranderson9972 26 дней назад

    Thank you for this bible study! God has been calling me to read Ephesians and I knew I lacked understanding, and this study has helped me understand the book soooo much better!

  • @ae7091
    @ae7091 Месяц назад +2

    Cleveland OH

    • @user-qs7wc8xp5s
      @user-qs7wc8xp5s Месяц назад +1

      Ayeeeee 216!

    • @ae7091
      @ae7091 Месяц назад

      @@user-qs7wc8xp5s hey there! Would love for them to come remotely near the Midwest!! I’m there! Been to 2 Glory conferences and man!

  • @hb8413
    @hb8413 Месяц назад +1

    "Ewww you love him" 😂😂😂

  • @sdc6212
    @sdc6212 Месяц назад

    She attended Jackson State university in Jackson, MS? ❤

  • @latonyadover3588
    @latonyadover3588 Месяц назад +3

    Jackie! Don’t talk about my fan😂😂

  • @nancybatal397
    @nancybatal397 Месяц назад +9

    Ewww you love him🥰😂

    • @keena20071987
      @keena20071987 Месяц назад +1

      That part made me giggle ❤😂

  • @alicia_nicole444
    @alicia_nicole444 Месяц назад +1

    I’m 36 going on 37 and I have a neck fan 😂😂😂. I don’t wear it in church tho

  • @myra9755
    @myra9755 Месяц назад

    30:45 is me. Although I’m 22 now. I just don’t want the word watered down. I’m not a cute daily devotional/soap note person😭

  • @jainicole
    @jainicole Месяц назад

    Middle aged is 35 / 40 for our generation 😫🤣. I'll be turning 35 June 20th!!

  • @kenyettaaldridge3782
    @kenyettaaldridge3782 Месяц назад +2

    Birmingham Al

  • @anonastjuste5888
    @anonastjuste5888 Месяц назад

    19:38 hilarious

  • @mckennasheetz2577
    @mckennasheetz2577 Месяц назад

    Canyon Hills SLO

  • @nondyebodumeko9682
    @nondyebodumeko9682 Месяц назад +2

    Preposition 😭what?????

  • @MamaShawnyD
    @MamaShawnyD Месяц назад

    You have about 10 more years until neck fans unless the Lord bless you not to have hot flashes!

  • @savagebull9183
    @savagebull9183 Месяц назад

    Jackie, are you pregnant?

  • @tatianaclare
    @tatianaclare Месяц назад

    FIRST OF ALL WHYYYY do you have to be old to get a neck fan??!!

  • @yinksminks2346
    @yinksminks2346 Месяц назад

    Please, Jackie I hope I am wrong but the lady called Jasmine on your seems jealous of you. Please, pray about her. Some women are always jealous even when they have their own blessings. I felt a discomfort in my spirit when looks at you when you are not looking at her. May God reveal her heart towards you. God bless you Jakie and your family.❤

    • @faithfiso7618
      @faithfiso7618 Месяц назад +18

      Please don't do this...atleast pray about this privately if you feel the need to.Please......please.

    • @HernameisPurpose
      @HernameisPurpose Месяц назад +11

      @@faithfiso7618 Exactly, this was not needed.

    • @DSN430
      @DSN430 Месяц назад +6

      Don't. She was nothing but sweet, smiling and complimentary.

    • @wayNAY87
      @wayNAY87 Месяц назад +7

      What a bizarre comment

    • @Velvetvoice06
      @Velvetvoice06 Месяц назад +1

      Man. I’ll pray for you because the spirit of pessimism and divisiveness that must regularly oppress you to come to this conclusion and articulate this viewpoint must be heavy. I mean just demonic. God bless you.