Spire 4 plastic coating peels, the chrome on my teammates spire 4 has stained and changed colors, after cleaning. save your money and stick with the spire 3
gotta say there is a lot of extra on the 3 and 4 but considering the IR version feeds 15 BPS with eyes and is only $110. its hard to beat that option vs these. since the price for the 3 and 4 will be $250+ . you can pick up the Ir with the speed feed, ramp and 260 count shell still spend under $200!
I have the same problem with my virtue spire IR2 it’s a problem with the virtue spire loaders for some reason the loader neck is just generally small….I threw my dye rotor R2 on there and it fits snug
Back in the old days, the fix was to throw some electrical tape around the neck of the loader, which widens it and allows the feeneck something thicker to grip onto.
I hear the spire 4 will be able to notice when the gun is shooting or sitting still? Or does that only apply to when it is in sink with the virtue gun?
i have two friends who are pro and i play semi pro and trust me the gtek 170r shoots so damn nice and you'll never wanna shoot anything else ever again planet eclipse makes some really nice guns and overall everything they come out with is extremely nice.
Virtue Ace combo version hopper has limited edition spire logo on the backside of the hopper. The combo version shows Spire IIII, but the individually sold hopper shows Spire IV. Does it really matter, idk, but I guess it’s more rare or could be more valuable to some people. #ThanksLoneWolfPaintball #ProudOwnerOfAceLuxe
god dont waste your money on a mini gs you will end up hating it. ask yourself do u wanna do the camo and military style guns or do you want to do the tournament ball. then look online for what u like. empire guns are trash i had to fix three this past weekend. remember u get what you pay for so id recommend a shocker xls for a gun. i have a cs2 but its a little much for someones first gun lol
I have a spire 3 and ctrl. Used the CTRL once, then sits in bag as a backup. Just don't like it as much. If you want smaller for some reason, go for it, but Spire III is more robust and holds more paint.
Can someone please let me know will the Spire 4 run smooth on the Empire Mini Gs? I own a mini gs and 8m looking to buy an electric hopper but I don't know which electric hopper would be good
I don't run a Spire 4 on my mini GS, but I have a Dye LT-R that I run. Reliable and efficient, save you a little money, and it holds 250 rounds versus the spire which is 200 rounds. Just a good starter hopper. Hope this helps.
I have the spire 3 and you can adjust the settings on it like reload alarm, sound, etc. I'm pretty sure the spire IV has the features it would seem dumb if it didn't
that spire3 speed feed is a really bad design. I have replaced two fingers in three sessions and it will let paintballs fall out the top. For whatever reason the speed feed for Spire2 was much better
@@hulagukhan123223 I also noticed a lose more paintballs falling out between the fingers than on previous version. I also have a hard time knowing if it is on or not. Several rounds I have started with it off.
250 bucks! Wow a lot of money for a little fluff that says a lot about the manufacture first thing to sell you a model that doesn’t see it will keep up with the boss per second for the marker it’s made for mated with then they have to put in a chip to make it do that there’s not one hopper in the world that’s worth 250 bucks or even more than 100 bucks give me a good old revi any day it’s outrageous the prices for paintball gear these days manufacturer should be ashamed of themselves!
If you have an unlimited expense account, it's a no brainier...especially if you have the matching Luxe X bluetooth. And obviously down grade you to a poser with no skills on the dirt. It's laughable when I see corporate paintball selling snake oil to kids and also big KIDS. ....there just going from village to the next...as we all know there's always one...or two! Lmao!
Same size, same shape, same speedfeed, same tray "type"; interchangeable,........ $240ish, useless bl t connect at locked 10bps.........fucking stupid, port for plug n charge batt.; the only useful and great idea........, wow what a buy. I will stick with the Spire IR for 90-99 dollars. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I don’t think the spire 4 is worth buying since your just getting a hopper that has an extra feature that doesn’t work with 99% of the guns
Spire 4 plastic coating peels, the chrome on my teammates spire 4 has stained and changed colors, after cleaning. save your money and stick with the spire 3
I’m staying with the spire 3. It’s just there’s just not that much changes that will make me switch
I think the new Spire IV should say "OH Yeah" after the Luxe gun powers on and says Welcome to the Luxe experience.
The Spire 4 also connects to the CS2 Pro as well with the new software update from E-Portal.
gotta say there is a lot of extra on the 3 and 4 but considering the IR version feeds 15 BPS with eyes and is only $110. its hard to beat that option vs these. since the price for the 3 and 4 will be $250+ . you can pick up the Ir with the speed feed, ramp and 260 count shell still spend under $200!
The success of this loader hinges on other marker manufacturers releasing compatible boards. As is? It's a tough sell.
The Spire 4 also has the Bunker Kings CTRL loader feed logic
How’s that differ from the 3?
I like the subtleness of the spire 3, I might stick with that.
Main difference
One is blue
Thanks for watching
Just bought the spire iv and it fits loose on my shocker amp and I have the shocker AMP feed neck tighten all the way. Any suggestions?
I have the same problem with my virtue spire IR2 it’s a problem with the virtue spire loaders for some reason the loader neck is just generally small….I threw my dye rotor R2 on there and it fits snug
Back in the old days, the fix was to throw some electrical tape around the neck of the loader, which widens it and allows the feeneck something thicker to grip onto.
@@SHADOWSTRIKE1 tried that didnt fit well
I hear the spire 4 will be able to notice when the gun is shooting or sitting still? Or does that only apply to when it is in sink with the virtue gun?
I’m getting a gtek 170r
i have two friends who are pro and i play semi pro and trust me the gtek 170r shoots so damn nice and you'll never wanna shoot anything else ever again planet eclipse makes some really nice guns and overall everything they come out with is extremely nice.
I know There really nice
I want to see you guys review the new first strike revolver
Thanks for making this video! I’m still trying to decide though
Virtue Ace combo version hopper has limited edition spire logo on the backside of the hopper. The combo version shows Spire IIII, but the individually sold hopper shows Spire IV. Does it really matter, idk, but I guess it’s more rare or could be more valuable to some people. #ThanksLoneWolfPaintball #ProudOwnerOfAceLuxe
Will the Bluetooth connect with cs2 platform? Same as luxe? Also when you shipping? i ordered my virtue iv 2 weeks ago! Lol
Only if PE releases a firmware or flash for the marker, otherwise no.
How do you change the locking button on the IV?
I want to.start playing paintball what is a good starting gun and gear
A tippman gun or if u want to start speedball empire mini gs
Speedball is the more expensive side of paintball buy its is so much more adrenaline pumping
god dont waste your money on a mini gs you will end up hating it. ask yourself do u wanna do the camo and military style guns or do you want to do the tournament ball. then look online for what u like. empire guns are trash i had to fix three this past weekend. remember u get what you pay for so id recommend a shocker xls for a gun. i have a cs2 but its a little much for someones first gun lol
Don't listen to any of these guys get a gtek
Etha2
Do you think there will be other markers with the same tech as the Ace ?
Whens the next giveaway!?
"It's kinda up to you guys" except the Spire 3 has been sold out everywhere for months and the Spire 4 is $50 more expensive.
Robert Lew The 4 is the same RRP as the 3. The 3 was only cheaper because it was end of line, they were clearing stock so cut the price.
There are no hoppers out there right now except the spire 4🤬🤬🤬🤬😅😅😅😅
@@reubenhernandez276 Or the Spire IR. Isn't the IR the same performance as the III but without that spring ramp it comes with?
For the Virtue IV will it work on a non-Lux marker or just lux only is so then I’m going to be super bummed as the virtue 3 is hard to find nowadays
Veson Douangmanilay Yes it will work with any marker.
TheBroz thank you!
TheBroz i have a IV and i don’t know how to use it with my shocker
Are you guys shipping these spires 4s out now?
How many paintballs does it hold
Can you guys do a spire 4 vs bunkerkings ctrl?
I have a spire 3 and ctrl. Used the CTRL once, then sits in bag as a backup. Just don't like it as much. If you want smaller for some reason, go for it, but Spire III is more robust and holds more paint.
Can someone please let me know will the Spire 4 run smooth on the Empire Mini Gs? I own a mini gs and 8m looking to buy an electric hopper but I don't know which electric hopper would be good
I don't run a Spire 4 on my mini GS, but I have a Dye LT-R that I run. Reliable and efficient, save you a little money, and it holds 250 rounds versus the spire which is 200 rounds. Just a good starter hopper. Hope this helps.
So basically spire is the iPhone of the hopper world?
the spire 3 could be adjusted using ur phone right?????.....by what they said the 4 no longer has that feature...am i wrong????
I have the spire 3 and you can adjust the settings on it like reload alarm, sound, etc. I'm pretty sure the spire IV has the features it would seem dumb if it didn't
@@t-four9473 I agree, which is why it seems so odd to me that it wasn't emphasized more as to if it is currently still a feature or not
So is the only difference the Bluetooth comparison
my setup got stolen what should i do?
File a police report first then post up on social media
@@adamgriffin thanks
buy a new setup from lone wolf paintball
I asked for this on Facebook Haha
Paintball > Airsoft. You just haven't accepted that yet, Charlieboy
Oh, Charlie!
nevermind the video answered my question.
that spire3 speed feed is a really bad design. I have replaced two fingers in three sessions and it will let paintballs fall out the top. For whatever reason the speed feed for Spire2 was much better
Agree, the fins/fingers are terrible and damn costly!
@@hulagukhan123223 I also noticed a lose more paintballs falling out between the fingers than on previous version. I also have a hard time knowing if it is on or not. Several rounds I have started with it off.
Second
They didn't feed any paint through it
RussKP Media It’s a Spire, they feed great.
TheBroz I heard that the motor has a constant pulse but haven't actually seen
250 bucks! Wow a lot of money for a little fluff that says a lot about the manufacture first thing to sell you a model that doesn’t see it will keep up with the boss per second for the marker it’s made for mated with then they have to put in a chip to make it do that there’s not one hopper in the world that’s worth 250 bucks or even more than 100 bucks give me a good old revi any day it’s outrageous the prices for paintball gear these days manufacturer should be ashamed of themselves!
It’s virtue. Give it a couple months and there will be a sale on it.
$250 for a hopper!!!
If you have an unlimited expense account, it's a no brainier...especially if you have the matching Luxe X bluetooth. And obviously down grade you to a poser with no skills on the dirt.
It's laughable when I see corporate paintball selling snake oil to kids and also big KIDS. ....there just going from village to the next...as we all know there's always one...or two! Lmao!
Same size, same shape, same speedfeed, same tray "type"; interchangeable,........
$240ish, useless bl t connect at locked 10bps.........fucking stupid, port for plug n charge batt.; the only useful and great idea........, wow what a buy.
I will stick with the Spire IR for 90-99 dollars. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
The Spire IR vs the Spire III, is it the same BPS? Same performance just the IR doesn't come with that spring ramp inside right?
first! yay!
Totally overpriced for what you get
Not worth it]