i am a professional film editor with feature film experience. just wanted to point out that films will often break the rule- its not a hard and fast one. Once space has been established- and audiences have been orientated, one can often break the line . For example, we can break the line as filmmakers with another establishing wide from the other side- then jump back in, or with any wide lens shot- that gives us perspective. Give the audience a chance to catch up- and you can pull it off. for example breaking bad does this quite often, and well i might add. cutting from cu to cu however is tricky to do, but action films such as bourne, etc do it fast and frequently. And as pointed out in the vid, for frenzy or to disorient- work it that way. just wanted to say this for new filmmakers who hold it as some kind of law, or who use it to argue their coverage. GET IT ALL- shoot it from wherever is interesting. see what works in the cutting room, often when filmmakers stick too hard and fast to these rules- the result is often a show that comes out a bit too tv like- and very generic feeling.
"GET IT ALL- shoot it from wherever is interesting. see what works in the cutting room" -- spoken like a true editor. Sidney Lumet is rolling in his grave.
I am not an editor and have no experience professionally, which makes me a viewer or something. Anyway... I notice the editing techniques when I watch movies. I get bored with a systematic method. The monotony puts me to sleep. Zzzzz.... When a scene makes me wonder how did they film that, I sit a little closer to the screen.
Breaking Bad is the shit man, I love the camera work in that show. I think another scene where they pull this off quite well is when Batman is interrogating the Joker in The Dark Knight.
I disagree to an extent that the interrogation scene in TDK is breaking the rule. Every time the camera crosses the line of action the preceding shot has the camera moving noticeably towards the line, then the next shot (which is indeed on the other side of the previous line) is moving from the center away from the line of action. So, what Nolan has creatively done is use camera movement between the two shots to identify the shift to the other side of the line. In this case I don't think the "rule" is "broken".
its important to understand the rules in filmmaking, but more importantly to know that they aren't rules, and that they aren't hard and fast, a good cinematographer/director will get what s interesting regardless, and a good editor will know how to make it work in any sense of the "rule". what s important is an open mind. I've seen plenty of young filmmakers , grips, etc, question the dp, "oh you can't do that- you re breaking the line!!".
HOLY CRAP thank you so much for this video. It's such a simpler way to think of it than the way we are currently trying to work it out with camera left to actor right etc. Such an elegant and simple way to imagine it. 180 degree rule. You've changed my life!
I learned in the class when i study.This video's very good and easy to understands. Axis is a basic of continuity that Hollywood,TV commercial and MV show a mistake in many time.
It's mind blowing how many scenes in movies, and T.V., I've seen, and yet, knew so little, about how so much goes into them! In a way, it is an art form best not recognized.
This is an absolutely brilliant video. Superb content, and wonderful presentation because of the 'pace' of talking and the clarity of the medium length sentences. This was a presentation by a young and truly gifted teacher. Thanks so much!
Bigger productions have 'continuity editors'. Is this related to this topic? When shooting, are there 'neutral' shots needed as precautions for cut/ edits later? Continuity for sound, lighting - more on this please?
How does Quentin Tarantino do his 360 spinning camera as it goes to each actor when they're talking? For example, the beginning scene of Resevoir Dogs where they're talking about whether or not to tip waitresses or the diner table scene in Death Proof where they're talking about the car chase movie Vanishing Point.
Thank you for this video! I'm in school for digital design and animation. I enjoy editing and have to create a short film for class. This video helped explain the 180-Degree "Suggestion" better for me! It was extremely helpful having actual footage to view with the explanation!
very helpful tutorial i am happy with it, but the question is why the viewer would get lost if u jump out of the 180 degree arc O.o i didn't really notice it or got lost when u did it . because the camera is focused on the person talking also on the first shot he was on right now he is on left so it would totally make sense that he has different background ... is there something i am missing here?
Fight scenes should always break the 180 rule, it adds to the frenetic pace and constantly redirects action and tension, in Bourne Identity, the camera is constantly circling the fighters.
That is helpful guys but I think that your mid shots can be improved. It doesn't cut your subjects including yourself right above the waistline.Sorry for being critical, just finished my assignment on that topic :) and I made the same mistake.
so if someone begins to look at something else its okay to break the rule? for example Actor A talks to Actor B Then A spots something behind B Would it be okay then to break the rule because he is no longer looking at A?
filmmakers brake the rule all the time for example when there is three actors in a scene or for that istance when the actor sports something behind actor B the camera can pan over to the other side, still maintaining the camera position, while establishing a new line between the actor and whatever there is in the background that is important enough to place your point of interest
The 180 rule and the line helps the audience make a mental mindmap of where the characters are in the scene. I think it would be okay just for him to look away and you can definitely break the rule, but only if you're going to focus on what is being looked at. Otherwise I don't advise breaking the rule, cutting from a shot where the line is established to a shot where the line is broken is quite jarring to the audience, it's better to have a cut away or a shot of what is being looked at so that you actually end the line and look at something else and then cut back, instead of crossing it.
Great thank you! Learned more here than in my college class 😊
Rad. Thank you so much!
i am a professional film editor with feature film experience. just wanted to point out that films will often break the rule- its not a hard and fast one. Once space has been established- and audiences have been orientated, one can often break the line . For example, we can break the line as filmmakers with another establishing wide from the other side- then jump back in, or with any wide lens shot- that gives us perspective. Give the audience a chance to catch up- and you can pull it off. for example breaking bad does this quite often, and well i might add. cutting from cu to cu however is tricky to do, but action films such as bourne, etc do it fast and frequently. And as pointed out in the vid, for frenzy or to disorient- work it that way.
just wanted to say this for new filmmakers who hold it as some kind of law, or who use it to argue their coverage. GET IT ALL- shoot it from wherever is interesting. see what works in the cutting room, often when filmmakers stick too hard and fast to these rules- the result is often a show that comes out a bit too tv like- and very generic feeling.
"GET IT ALL- shoot it from wherever is interesting. see what works in the cutting room" -- spoken like a true editor. Sidney Lumet is rolling in his grave.
I am not an editor and have no experience professionally, which makes me a viewer or something. Anyway...
I notice the editing techniques when I watch movies. I get bored with a systematic method. The monotony puts me to sleep. Zzzzz.... When a scene makes me wonder how did they film that, I sit a little closer to the screen.
Dark Knight: Batman interrogating Joker is a perfect example.
Breaking Bad is the shit man, I love the camera work in that show. I think another scene where they pull this off quite well is when Batman is interrogating the Joker in The Dark Knight.
I disagree to an extent that the interrogation scene in TDK is breaking the rule. Every time the camera crosses the line of action the preceding shot has the camera moving noticeably towards the line, then the next shot (which is indeed on the other side of the previous line) is moving from the center away from the line of action. So, what Nolan has creatively done is use camera movement between the two shots to identify the shift to the other side of the line. In this case I don't think the "rule" is "broken".
its important to understand the rules in filmmaking, but more importantly to know that they aren't rules, and that they aren't hard and fast, a good cinematographer/director will get what s interesting regardless, and a good editor will know how to make it work in any sense of the "rule". what s important is an open mind. I've seen plenty of young filmmakers , grips, etc, question the dp, "oh you can't do that- you re breaking the line!!".
One of the most concise and clear break downs of this rule.
HOLY CRAP thank you so much for this video. It's such a simpler way to think of it than the way we are currently trying to work it out with camera left to actor right etc. Such an elegant and simple way to imagine it. 180 degree rule. You've changed my life!
I learned in the class when i study.This video's very good and easy to understands. Axis is a basic of continuity that Hollywood,TV commercial and MV show a mistake in many time.
This was the most clear simple explanation of the rule I've found, thank you
It's mind blowing how many scenes in movies, and T.V., I've seen, and yet, knew so little, about how so much goes into them! In a way, it is an art form best not recognized.
an art form? go fck yourself
@@xxdarkjes294 LOL
This is an absolutely brilliant video. Superb content, and wonderful presentation because of the 'pace' of talking and the clarity of the medium length sentences. This was a presentation by a young and truly gifted teacher. Thanks so much!
that was awesome mate thanks for a great video
+stu crompton Thank you! you're welcome.
One of the best video on 180 rule. Helped me understand the rule with crystal clarity.
Thank you so much.
Great tutorial, I had been wondering for a while how to manage camera angles when dealing with 3 people in the frame like at 4:43, great advice here!
great vid, eye gets better thru out tutorial too....
Yeah 😂
im working on a short comic and this really help on my shot comp!
The best video on this.
Thanks a lot man ! was really easy to understand
Bigger productions have 'continuity editors'. Is this related to this topic?
When shooting, are there 'neutral' shots needed as precautions for cut/ edits later?
Continuity for sound, lighting - more on this please?
fantastic! i had difficulty understanding this rule until now!
Good video, good explanations, good examples of each and how it works and how it doesn't work if you use the rule!
This is brilliantly explained!!! Wish I saw this sooner!
Thank you! you are so kind.
Well presented and exemplified. I am on your channel from now on. Hats off
I've done a few videos but I'm just a novice, this is really helpful and well explained, thanks!
Really great! These infos will definitely improve the quality of my skateboarding videos. Thank you videomaker!
Kubrick broke the rules in the Shining to evoke confusion
How does Quentin Tarantino do his 360 spinning camera as it goes to each actor when they're talking? For example, the beginning scene of Resevoir Dogs where they're talking about whether or not to tip waitresses or the diner table scene in Death Proof where they're talking about the car chase movie Vanishing Point.
Thank you for this video! I'm in school for digital design and animation. I enjoy editing and have to create a short film for class. This video helped explain the 180-Degree "Suggestion" better for me! It was extremely helpful having actual footage to view with the explanation!
Good explanation!! Thanks very much!
Great explanation of the concept, thanks.
Good explanation of the rule. Thank you !
Explained clearly. Good job....ONCE AGAIN
Thanks for the explanation, it was very clearly, nice video
and irl examples? very good!
very helpful tutorial i am happy with it, but the question is why the viewer would get lost if u jump out of the 180 degree arc O.o i didn't really notice it or got lost when u did it . because the camera is focused on the person talking also on the first shot he was on right now he is on left so it would totally make sense that he has different background ... is there something i am missing here?
wonderful video, it helps me learn a lot!
Thanks. Very clear.
Really informative and helpful! Thank you!
Great video! Clear and effective explanation.
Surprisingly insightful. Thank you so much.
Thank you sooooo much. You explained it much better than my Professor!
I always learn great stuff from you gentlemen! Thanks!
Good info,,, to the point... 👌👌
I Love it! Thank you for this Information.
Thanks! This is really helpful.
Great Video. thumbs up
Very helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great work. Thank you.
Thank you too!
Useful, thanks!
Thats such an awesome concept! Well I learned something today ;)
Really informative..... easy to comprehend.
great video easy to follow thanks
Very useful and clear video, thanks!
+Henry Norgrove Thank you!
Great! Thank you! What about line of action in fighting scenes? Can the rule be broken there?
Fight scenes should always break the 180 rule, it adds to the frenetic pace and constantly redirects action and tension, in Bourne Identity, the camera is constantly circling the fighters.
Thank you for uploading this interesting and informative video, which is so clearly presented.
+Valerie J Thank you!
Great lesson for beginners like me. Thaks a lot.
What camera are u using?
Thanks for uploading such an informative video. I learnt a ton of great knowledge through this. This will help surely. :)
Very well explained, thank you.
+Victor H. C. G. Thank you!
awesome information thank u very much.......
thank u very much ...u are an amazing teacher........ plz keep uploading such vidos
You should upload more videos like this, maybe some montage tricks. Great video.
Finally I understand. Thanks for the video!
Thank you very much guys! Nice job!
Great work. Thanks a lot!
really good vid. like others said, learned something important today.
Oooh okay now I get it! @3:13 Thank you!
Awesome advice. Thanks.
Very nice job
That was really helpful!..... thanks guys
So if your implying chaos in perhaps a taping of a political debate can you create quick edits of shifting action lines?
Helpful thanks great video
great!! simple and clean!!
I' ve learned good things here, could you let me know example of action line among 4 people ? ;)
draw a X between your subjects. Choose what of the two lines will be your axis and treat it the same.
really instructive .. thank you
Feeling like this should be in a director's 101 playlist
Brilliant. Thank you very much.
will you please addd closed captioning? thank you
This is crucial info thanks
OUTSTANDING! THANK YOU!!!
That was fantastic. Thank you!
+dpmelson Thank you!
This is great. Make more!
Thanks for the videos. It's helpful :)
Nice .... Worth watch
wow superb video make more of this
I learned so much from this!!!!!
Ilove it...thanks very nice tutorial
great video!
Thanks a lot for this fruitful video
+Rana Mohammed Abdelwahab you're welcome
Thanks for this. Great breakdown of a very crucial rule
Very helpful thanks!
Very informative , well deduced
thanks a lot. really helpful.
I was blind on left eye after watching this video :)
Great video !
+MrMovieMan941 Thanks!
That is helpful guys but I think that your mid shots can be improved. It doesn't cut your subjects including yourself right above the waistline.Sorry for being critical, just finished my assignment on that topic :) and I made the same mistake.
so if someone begins to look at something else its okay to break the rule? for example
Actor A talks to Actor B
Then A spots something behind B
Would it be okay then to break the rule because he is no longer looking at A?
filmmakers brake the rule all the time for example when there is three actors in a scene or for that istance when the actor sports something behind actor B the camera can pan over to the other side, still maintaining the camera position, while establishing a new line between the actor and whatever there is in the background that is important enough to place your point of interest
The 180 rule and the line helps the audience make a mental mindmap of where the characters are in the scene. I think it would be okay just for him to look away and you can definitely break the rule, but only if you're going to focus on what is being looked at. Otherwise I don't advise breaking the rule, cutting from a shot where the line is established to a shot where the line is broken is quite jarring to the audience, it's better to have a cut away or a shot of what is being looked at so that you actually end the line and look at something else and then cut back, instead of crossing it.
00:37 XD whats with the closed eye?
great video!
You guys rock
thanks for the video.. big up
Thank you so much.
Amazing...biiig thanks.this is really helpful ! :)
I always wondered how to break down the 180 degree, though I didn't know how to do it even