Really like this video, when I started bartending I was taught muddle orange and cherry and simple, strain add bourbon then stir with ice then as I progressed I learned death and co. Recipe and I really stuck with that and would always ask my guest from that point “how do you want your old fashioned” giving the option of the muddled fruit and simple, sugar cube, bitters, and bourbon, or Demerara, bitters and bourbon. Its really fascinating when you meet other bartenders and explain the difference across the board of how to make a “old fashioned” cause so many bartenders are taught different ways but theirs always the friendly debate on what’s the right way. So I bring that question to the guest while I’m working and it’s always vastly different because the bar or bartenders they’ve ever ordered from has learned it all a different way. So in a night you can get a server who rings in a OF and the simple quest is “how do they want it?”
I typically ask the bartender how they make the old fashioned. If they muddle the cherry with simple syrup, I will forgo the cocktail for something else, as I'm not a fan of that style. I make mine almost exactly they way tEB makes #4, only I prefer Peychaud bitters, and add a luxardo cherry.
I almost exclusively drink Old Fashioned here at home. I like Basel Hayden's quite a bit but have tried quite a few other things and keep coming back to that. I know a lot of folks don't like it but to each his/her own. I put in a bit of sugar and a bit of Luxardo cherry syrup in. Mix it up with a few splashes of orange bitters. Put in my Basel, and mix it all with some ice in a mixing glass. Pour it over a clear ice cube and garnish with orange and a Luxardo cherry.
This was the first cocktail I learned as well. In fact its one of those that launched my interest into the cocktail field. Just the simplicity of it and the flavours, and it just looks so....
Nice video Leandro. As a Brit I was never bought over by American whiskey, until I tried an Old Fashioned just a few months ago. One of those drinks that simply, hits the spot. Keep it up!
1st drink that I learned to make too. Just beginning my journey as a bartender myself. Love this channel, it's been a great resource for me as I hone the craft!!
I’ve been enjoying old fashioned’s a lot lately and I’ve been making them with a little twist. I didn’t have any oranges or lemons to use and I also didn’t have any sugar cubes so here is what I did and it is now my go to drink. About 0.5 ounce of rich simple syrup About 0.5 ounce of Cointreau 4 dashes Angostura bitters 2 ounces Rye ( have really been enjoying Bulleit Rye here) Have used Wild Turkey Rye; it’s nice and smooth in this. Monkey Shoulder has been good too. Tried Woodford Reserve and is just too sweet.
The old fashioned is my favorite cocktail of all time and I love playing with all of the riffs and variations bartenders have been coming up with (right now im obssessed with the Don Lockwood from Dutch Kills, split base of bourbon and Islay Scotch, maple syrup as the sweetener, and a drop or two of Bitterman's chocolate mole bitters),
Thank You !!! No Cherry !!! My father taught me to make three cocktails. The first cocktails was the Old Fashioned, and to this day, it is my favorite. The other two were the Martini and the Manhattan. This is the drink that defines the bar for me and I sincerely agree. When you find a bar that makes the Old Fashioned that suites your taste, that is your bar for life.
Also the first drink I learned to make. To this day, still one of my favorites. If I could only have one cocktail the rest of my life it would probably be a tough decision between and Old Fashioned and a Negroni.
Enjoy your channel! Trying to improve my repertoire of cocktails.(seems to be a big shortage of sugar cubes, of all things, in my area. Used 1 tsp sugar.)
Like the evolution of whiskey cocktails that culminated in the Old Fashioned, we have witnessed a steady improvement and evolution of The Educated Barfly into the well-balanced, classic channel we enjoy today...😉
Great video, is there a specific absinthe you used for the traditional whiskey cocktail? Im a fan of the old fashioned and would love to try this variation of a whiskey cocktail.
love the editing of this video as it progresses through the history of this icon in under 7 minutes 🤯...have you experimented with demerara cubed sugar for the modern vs white? cheers!
Yeah of course you can get em right here: Old Fashioned Glass: www.amazon.com/dp/B0964FRPJW?fbclid=IwAR1kLojU-8f_taWUX0HSt1zgo4lQQdhaW2tkS4LsgSGoH6bu02Ix6SjybVM&linkCode=sl1&tag=theeducated00-20&linkId=77431b896d1bff3761bf58fecb7483e2&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
I was rambling through the cocktail internet as the temperature in Silverthorne, CO was dropping 25 degrees in 4 hours (it’s 11 F and dropping) and ran across a Punch story about the Buenos Aires OF. Any idea how that one goes?
I find it interesting that the Old fashioned was actually the result of removing some ingredients from the previous step, the improved whisky. Am I right? Often perfection has to be found in simplicity.
I hadn’t heard the Tilden portion of the Old Fashioned story. He was from the area near where I live and there is even a small “town” (used to be a railroad stop) called Tilden that is close enough that some apps believe that is my location!
Possibly that the sugar cube hasn't fully dissolved and spread throughout the drink, but with simple syrup this process happens very quickly and completely!
I use a little gran marnier, a little luxardo cherry liqueur, a cask strength bourbon, a couple dashes of angostura, and a teaspoon of maple syrup on top.
Would ice have been commonly available for whiskey slings in early-18th Century colonial taverns? 🤔 I was out of ice tonight, so that was my excuse to try a sling without chilling it, and honestly it wasn’t bad.
Slings were available since the mid 1700s in taverns but ice would’ve have been available since the mid 1800s. The sling i made was one that would have been made around 1860 or so...
The Educated Barfly Yes, I noted that you mentioned your version was an 1860’s recreation. I was just wondering if omitting ice would’ve made mine accurate to the 1700’s. 😂 It was a lot like a rum drink which I think I also learned from you. It was just sugar, lime, and rum. No ice. Can’t remember what it was called.
This version of the Old Fashioned is more to my liking than the one you featured from Death and Co about a year ago ( It used bourbon I think..) While I much prefer the Rye Whiskey in this one The demerara gomme syrup in the Death and Co. version was really good , too. Hey! where's my Luxardo Cherry?
Looks great. I've been collecting "Improved" recipes. Most use more Luxardo than this one. Great Old Fashioned version here as well. I'm going to try it with a Demerara sugar cube.
Why the powdered sugar? It is 3% corn starch to keep it from fusing together. Would that potentially be an issue in the drink? Could be a problem for people with allergies. You might be better off using a spice grinder with regular granulated sugar.
I can't think of a better way to use that bottle of Rittenhouse!! I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks, guys! Though I have to agree with many other commenters: I'm not such a huge fan of the music.
I'm only weeks away from being back at work and available to get my youtube membership fucking finally. Thats some Surfside sips and argonaut shall finally be mine
I appreciate that you're experimenting with your formats. This video is a little off to me though, and I'm trying to figure out who it's aimed at. Hopefully this is helpful and constructive feedback, I know I tend to ramble. ;-) First off, this covers 4 variations of a well-known drink, 3 of which are likely to be unknown to many people. So in that sense the audience would seem to be people who are a little more on the enthusiast side, or at least moving in that direction, i.e. "starting to get serious about cocktails". But then aside from the first and last drinks, there is minimal history about the variations themselves, nor consistent explanation as to why one may have succeeded the other (granted you might not know). Perhaps more problematic is the lack of tasting notes. If this is for someone who has tasted all 4 of these before, they might want to know the history more in-depth (only partially covered). For someone who hasn't, surely they want to know what each variation is like? Ingredients like gum syrup aren't explained either, what they are, or what they contribute to the drink. And again someone starting to get serious about cocktails would probably want to know. It would also be good to have an explanation of more of the techniques and choices, e.g. why you want the grain from the sugar in there. I prefer those last few sips to be sweet and sometimes a tad grainy myself, but there's no explanation of your preference in the video. Overall just less informative than your usual. The focus seems to be on how to make the drinks, making it a bit more like the "x drink in 60 seconds" videos, but it's not as succinct and becomes kind of a mishmash, not the best of that format nor your usual more in-depth. I thought your "Gin challenge" video was a better balance, covering a similar number of cocktails but with better detail. And not even much longer at that. I could take or leave the music, but it's definitely not necessary ;-)
Of course the view count may speak for itself and I may be full of it. 😄 But I'd wager that the inherent popularity of the old fashioned itself might be boosting its numbers. 🤔
Am I the only one who uses more varied whiskies in old fashioneds? Like all I see is burbon and rye but I love them with scotch, Japanese, Irish ect depending on the mood I am in
The old fashioned is a great template to experiment with your local spirits! Most recipes call for rye and bourbon because it's a cocktail off the US, but I like mine with scotch and irish as well
I work at a members only club and make Old Fashioneds like this the proper way. Problem is a lot of these people have been drinking the muddled cherry and orange monstrosity that they don’t know any better
Wondering about the original sling. Why powdered sugar? Does the corn starch add anything? Side note- please don’t say “mouthfeel” please don’t say “mouthfeel”
@@TheEducatedBarfly Thank you!! I love the cherry, as well. It's like a little treat after finishing the drink. I always feel awkward asking for a cherry after my old fashioned comes without one. Maybe I just need to ask for a cherry when I order it but that feels weird too 🤣
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"When you find a bar that makes a great old fashioned, that is your bar for life"
So true!
I found a bar like that where I moved recently, and it's true. They have a whole menu section on old fashioned variations!
Really like this video, when I started bartending I was taught muddle orange and cherry and simple, strain add bourbon then stir with ice then as I progressed I learned death and co. Recipe and I really stuck with that and would always ask my guest from that point “how do you want your old fashioned” giving the option of the muddled fruit and simple, sugar cube, bitters, and bourbon, or Demerara, bitters and bourbon. Its really fascinating when you meet other bartenders and explain the difference across the board of how to make a “old fashioned” cause so many bartenders are taught different ways but theirs always the friendly debate on what’s the right way. So I bring that question to the guest while I’m working and it’s always vastly different because the bar or bartenders they’ve ever ordered from has learned it all a different way. So in a night you can get a server who rings in a OF and the simple quest is “how do they want it?”
I typically ask the bartender how they make the old fashioned. If they muddle the cherry with simple syrup, I will forgo the cocktail for something else, as I'm not a fan of that style.
I make mine almost exactly they way tEB makes #4, only I prefer Peychaud bitters, and add a luxardo cherry.
I almost exclusively drink Old Fashioned here at home.
I like Basel Hayden's quite a bit but have tried quite a few other things and keep coming back to that. I know a lot of folks don't like it but to each his/her own.
I put in a bit of sugar and a bit of Luxardo cherry syrup in. Mix it up with a few splashes of orange bitters.
Put in my Basel, and mix it all with some ice in a mixing glass.
Pour it over a clear ice cube and garnish with orange and a Luxardo cherry.
This was the first cocktail I learned as well. In fact its one of those that launched my interest into the cocktail field. Just the simplicity of it and the flavours, and it just looks so....
Nice video Leandro. As a Brit I was never bought over by American whiskey, until I tried an Old Fashioned just a few months ago. One of those drinks that simply, hits the spot. Keep it up!
1st drink that I learned to make too. Just beginning my journey as a bartender myself. Love this channel, it's been a great resource for me as I hone the craft!!
I’ve never tried the dash of club soda, will give it a shot. I sometimes throw in an absinthe for fun. Now I can call it a throwback
I really like this showing the history and progression of the drink. Would love more episodes like this!
I’ve been enjoying old fashioned’s a lot lately and I’ve been making them with a little twist. I didn’t have any oranges or lemons to use and I also didn’t have any sugar cubes so here is what I did and it is now my go to drink.
About 0.5 ounce of rich simple syrup
About 0.5 ounce of Cointreau
4 dashes Angostura bitters
2 ounces Rye ( have really been enjoying Bulleit Rye here)
Have used Wild Turkey Rye; it’s nice and smooth in this. Monkey Shoulder has been good too. Tried Woodford Reserve and is just too sweet.
My favorite cocktail. Make it at least 1-2 a week. I prefer using demerara cubes for that additional full bodied grittiness. 🥃
The old fashioned is my favorite cocktail of all time and I love playing with all of the riffs and variations bartenders have been coming up with (right now im obssessed with the Don Lockwood from Dutch Kills, split base of bourbon and Islay Scotch, maple syrup as the sweetener, and a drop or two of Bitterman's chocolate mole bitters),
Is that a thing, an old fashioned with Islay & bourbon?
I prefer having no music. Its enough just hearing your sweet sweet voice and info
Thank You !!! No Cherry !!! My father taught me to make three cocktails. The first cocktails was the Old Fashioned, and to this day, it is my favorite. The other two were the Martini and the Manhattan. This is the drink that defines the bar for me and I sincerely agree. When you find a bar that makes the Old Fashioned that suites your taste, that is your bar for life.
Great show buddy. Thanks for all the info. Much appreciated.
my all time favorite! totally agree when you find the right one, score!!!
Also the first drink I learned to make. To this day, still one of my favorites. If I could only have one cocktail the rest of my life it would probably be a tough decision between and Old Fashioned and a Negroni.
The first bar book I got has lemon peel, a thin slice of orange and a cherry get muttled before stirring with ice.. try it out I love it.
That's almost like a Wisconsin Old Fashioned
Enjoy your channel! Trying to improve my repertoire of cocktails.(seems to be a big shortage of sugar cubes, of all things, in my area. Used 1 tsp sugar.)
Thank you for educating us!
Like the evolution of whiskey cocktails that culminated in the Old Fashioned, we have witnessed a steady improvement and evolution of The Educated Barfly into the well-balanced, classic channel we enjoy today...😉
Thanks! Love starting my morning with an informative, entertaining video.
I use the syrup from the Luxardo Cherries in an Old Fashioned instead of white sugar.
Great video, is there a specific absinthe you used for the traditional whiskey cocktail?
Im a fan of the old fashioned and would love to try this variation of a whiskey cocktail.
Do it the same way except for the lemon. Tough enough keeping fresh oranges around. Thanks for the evolution of the drink.
love the editing of this video as it progresses through the history of this icon in under 7 minutes 🤯...have you experimented with demerara cubed sugar for the modern vs white? cheers!
best video yet. always liked the history and this really brought it to life
When are we getting our battle of the Boggarts bitters episode?
what is the style of glasses you are using? Do you have a link for them? I cannot find them anywhere and love they way they look. Thank you.
Yeah of course you can get em right here:
Old Fashioned Glass:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0964FRPJW?fbclid=IwAR1kLojU-8f_taWUX0HSt1zgo4lQQdhaW2tkS4LsgSGoH6bu02Ix6SjybVM&linkCode=sl1&tag=theeducated00-20&linkId=77431b896d1bff3761bf58fecb7483e2&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Love making all kinds of old fashions
How do you feel about brown sugar cubes vs white sugar cubes in old fashioneds?
Townsends has taught me enough to call out grated nutmeg in my mind before it's announced in videos.
🤔😂
Does it matter is raw cane sugar is used? I'm wondering if it would impact the flavor of any of these variations.
I was rambling through the cocktail internet as the temperature in Silverthorne, CO was dropping 25 degrees in 4 hours (it’s 11 F and dropping) and ran across a Punch story about the Buenos Aires OF. Any idea how that one goes?
I find it interesting that the Old fashioned was actually the result of removing some ingredients from the previous step, the improved whisky. Am I right? Often perfection has to be found in simplicity.
I hadn’t heard the Tilden portion of the Old Fashioned story. He was from the area near where I live and there is even a small “town” (used to be a railroad stop) called Tilden that is close enough that some apps believe that is my location!
Interesting! If I want an Old Fashioned and don’t have any oranges at home, I grate some nutmeg on top.
Where can I find the old-fashioned glasses you used in this episode?
Hi Leandro, why can't I ever get the balance right when using the sugar cube like when I use simple syrup? What could I be doing wrong?
Possibly that the sugar cube hasn't fully dissolved and spread throughout the drink, but with simple syrup this process happens very quickly and completely!
Thanks! Def ups my game.
I use a little gran marnier, a little luxardo cherry liqueur, a cask strength bourbon, a couple dashes of angostura, and a teaspoon of maple syrup on top.
Would ice have been commonly available for whiskey slings in early-18th Century colonial taverns? 🤔 I was out of ice tonight, so that was my excuse to try a sling without chilling it, and honestly it wasn’t bad.
Slings were available since the mid 1700s in taverns but ice would’ve have been available since the mid 1800s. The sling i made was one that would have been made around 1860 or so...
The Educated Barfly Yes, I noted that you mentioned your version was an 1860’s recreation. I was just wondering if omitting ice would’ve made mine accurate to the 1700’s. 😂
It was a lot like a rum drink which I think I also learned from you. It was just sugar, lime, and rum. No ice. Can’t remember what it was called.
Quick question, what do you do with all the lemons and oranges you have left over?
I'd assume he juices them.
He might dehydrate them after juicing them.
This version of the Old Fashioned is more to my liking than the one you featured from Death and Co about a year ago ( It used bourbon I think..) While I much prefer the Rye Whiskey in this one The demerara gomme syrup in the Death and Co. version was really good , too. Hey! where's my Luxardo Cherry?
Hi! Was curious where I can find those double old fashioned glasses?
As far as we know they're out of production, but we're working on it.
Got it, thanks for the response! Will stay tuned.
Heck yeah! Love me some old fashioneds
Looks great. I've been collecting "Improved" recipes. Most use more Luxardo than this one. Great Old Fashioned version here as well. I'm going to try it with a Demerara sugar cube.
Why the powdered sugar? It is 3% corn starch to keep it from fusing together. Would that potentially be an issue in the drink? Could be a problem for people with allergies.
You might be better off using a spice grinder with regular granulated sugar.
Great Job!
Nice looking drinks
I can't think of a better way to use that bottle of Rittenhouse!! I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks, guys!
Though I have to agree with many other commenters: I'm not such a huge fan of the music.
Nice. Love this type of video. At some point, devolution of Mai tai.
Absolutely love ur videos
Thank You 👌
Check the specs for the old fashioned in the notes,2oz are regarded as 30ml (sorry for the nitpick)
fixed
Well now I have to make an Old Fashioned tonight....Great job! Lol
Great stuff! Making me miss Cole's.
The fourth drink (the old fashioned) diluted suspiciously quickly!
Well played mate.
Love this 🥃👌🏼
Anybody know these type of old- fashioned glasses? Can’t find them anywhere
You can buy them here amzn.to/2Yuv42Q :)
@@TheEducatedBarfly thank you!
I’m obsessed with the pineapple on your barspoon!
amazon.com/shop/theeducatedbarfly :)
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No Luxardo Cherry?
Definitely drinking an improved whiskey cocktail tonight 👍🏽
Yeah man, I may be getting old but no reason to be old fashioned! ;)
nvm me, just helping the algorithm
Oh hell yea👍🏼👍🏼🥃
This was awesome. Didn't know there was such a historic evolution to it. Which one do you prefer to drink out of the 4?
I like an old fashioned but am also partial to the Improved Whiskey Cocktail
@@TheEducatedBarfly It's interesting how similar but still different they are. You think you could do a blind taste test? lol
What's with the music?! 😳 Sounds like there's a different window open in the background?!
I thought the same thing and searched for it xD
Wow
yum.
I don't see the gum syrup recipe
I appreciate that you're experimenting with your formats. This video is a little off to me though, and I'm trying to figure out who it's aimed at. Hopefully this is helpful and constructive feedback, I know I tend to ramble. ;-)
First off, this covers 4 variations of a well-known drink, 3 of which are likely to be unknown to many people. So in that sense the audience would seem to be people who are a little more on the enthusiast side, or at least moving in that direction, i.e. "starting to get serious about cocktails". But then aside from the first and last drinks, there is minimal history about the variations themselves, nor consistent explanation as to why one may have succeeded the other (granted you might not know).
Perhaps more problematic is the lack of tasting notes. If this is for someone who has tasted all 4 of these before, they might want to know the history more in-depth (only partially covered). For someone who hasn't, surely they want to know what each variation is like?
Ingredients like gum syrup aren't explained either, what they are, or what they contribute to the drink. And again someone starting to get serious about cocktails would probably want to know.
It would also be good to have an explanation of more of the techniques and choices, e.g. why you want the grain from the sugar in there. I prefer those last few sips to be sweet and sometimes a tad grainy myself, but there's no explanation of your preference in the video.
Overall just less informative than your usual. The focus seems to be on how to make the drinks, making it a bit more like the "x drink in 60 seconds" videos, but it's not as succinct and becomes kind of a mishmash, not the best of that format nor your usual more in-depth. I thought your "Gin challenge" video was a better balance, covering a similar number of cocktails but with better detail. And not even much longer at that.
I could take or leave the music, but it's definitely not necessary ;-)
Of course the view count may speak for itself and I may be full of it. 😄 But I'd wager that the inherent popularity of the old fashioned itself might be boosting its numbers. 🤔
The extended version is for their RUclips members only...... great.... now they are also paywalling
@@TriggaWarning Ohhh really? I guess that would explain, but... shouldn't they plug the RUclips membership for that in the video then? 😄
Ope, idk about yall but bein here in Wisconsin an old fashion is a bit different than we he just said. But hey I cant kock it till I try it right.
4x modern Old Fashioned cocktails next please
Greatly prefer this channel to How to Drink. Less nonsense
Am I the only one who uses more varied whiskies in old fashioneds? Like all I see is burbon and rye but I love them with scotch, Japanese, Irish ect depending on the mood I am in
The old fashioned is a great template to experiment with your local spirits! Most recipes call for rye and bourbon because it's a cocktail off the US, but I like mine with scotch and irish as well
The beauty of the Old Fashioned is the fact that if you stick to the template (spirits, sugar, bitters), you can really use any spirit.
That's a nice algorithm you got there
Lol why is Leandro trying so hard not to laugh while doing the peels for the 2nd and 3rd drinks? 😂
lol this video was originally 30 minutes long, there's an extended members cut coming for those that are interested in that :)
@@TheEducatedBarfly oooo, exclusive members only cut. Is that for RUclips memberships? Or going on freepour maybe?
RUclips memberships yeah. Should be coming out very soon. We have some extended cuts of other videos on there as well
Uh yeah gimme that paywall.
i made my first over the weekend! thx for the vid
My choice of citrus twist depends entirely on what whiskey I'm using.
Was there such thing as a fancy whiskey cocktail that would be worth remembering on that list?
I’m an advocate of being a REAL premillennial MAN and drink cask strength whisky by the PINT!
don't mind me, just helping the algorithm
(oh, and asking for that gum syrup instructions)
Yes, where is the gum syrup recipe?
Do you know a cocktail called “Aiding the Algorithm”?
😂
Clicks like before the video starts
Nice
I work at a members only club and make Old Fashioneds like this the proper way. Problem is a lot of these people have been drinking the muddled cherry and orange monstrosity that they don’t know any better
Wondering about the original sling. Why powdered sugar? Does the corn starch add anything? Side note- please don’t say “mouthfeel” please don’t say “mouthfeel”
Nice :)
That is precisely how an old fashioned should be served. If you're muddling fruit in your old fashioned you're making fruit cocktail, end of story
Five stars
Why do some bars not include a cherry in the old fashioned?
It’s not traditional to put a Cherry. It’s an advent of the mid century old fashioned and I like to add it to be cheeky and because it’s delicious
@@TheEducatedBarfly Thank you!! I love the cherry, as well. It's like a little treat after finishing the drink. I always feel awkward asking for a cherry after my old fashioned comes without one. Maybe I just need to ask for a cherry when I order it but that feels weird too 🤣
Seems like I have seen some say that a cherry was also part of this true game? No?
The earlier recipes don't call for a cherry, but the addition became popular in the later part of the 1800s/ early 1900s!
Cheers for the upload! I want to get a bottle of Rittenhouse now.
Would be cool to see you using Green Chartreuse or the vegan Almond Baileys.
Doesn't the use of so much water in the sling mean there was no ice? That was the point wasn't it? Ice wouldn't have been readily available
Yes but we have ice now and nobody wants a warm drink 😂
This seems like it might be your favorite drink.
Definitely one of them
lemon ? ehhhh
A l g o r i t h m
The acoustics on this video are weird and a little distracting.
Luckily big changes are coming and acoustics won’t be an issue anymore :)
#algorithm 🥃