I bought that exact rollbar and canopy that is on that tractor in video before it was restored, I knew the pictures were framiliar. I fixed it up a bit and mounted it on my 72’ 4000, can’t beat working in the shade in the summer.
Awesome tractor, I have seen them, but never used or ran one, sure would like to. Oh well, I guess I can just enjoy watching these videos for my fulfillment. Thanks for sharing and have a nice week ahead!
These tractors were designed and built from a whole different mindset from the engineers today. Tractors have never really been cheap. If you work on new equipment and see how cheap the parts are made its obvious they are not designed to last very long. My and my Grandfather tore down a 1953 Catapillar crawler dozer, it was cable operated. I hated to scrap it but it was too far gone to repair for any reasonable price. I still have the crank shaft out of it it only weighs about 500 lbs. That machine in every aspect of its engine transmission and drive assembleys would have easily lasted a lifetime of use if properly maintained. In the early 70s 10,000 usd is about 60,000 todays money. and thats what those big heavy JD tractors cost give or take depending on your options and equipment. If you buy a newer 50-70 hp tractor it is so light it wont actually put the horsepower to the ground with out adding weight! I had to add over 1000lbs to get my 50hp Kubota to ever work right and do what I needed it to do!!!
Back when these tractors were new they were the big tractor on most farms and were used for plowing. My dad bought a new 3020 in '72 along with a 4 bottom plow and it was the big tractor on our farm until 1979 when he bought a 4440. Nobody uses a 50-70 HP tractor for plowing anymore, (nobody does much plowing anymore anyway) so that size tractors are designed completely differently than what they were 50 years ago. I had to hang 600lbs of wheel weights on my 2001 JD 5210 to keep the ass end from coming off the ground when using the 521 loader.
So did you install a different hood without the opening for the upright exhaust or was the hood you currently have the one this tractor was "supposed" to have?
They all used the same hood. If you got the down exhaust option it came with an oval plug made of sheet metal that fit over the hole in the hood. You could put the down exhaust on any of them not just low profile models.
To be for sure it was an orchard tractor can't the VIN number be researched and find out that way? Because it had the smaller rear tires that could have been scavenged and put on the tractor later and the exhaust was in the right place and it had the original roof over the seat instead of being added later or moved later. To me it could go either way being it was originally in Florida that could possible make it an orchard tractor but it's just as possible that the rims and tires were added later as the muffler and roof over the seat could be a modification after it was an orchard tractor. I'd lean more towards it wasn't an orchard tractor and it's more likely the rims and wheels were scavenged off a broken down orchard tractor and added later in its life instead of buying new rubber. I think he wanted it to be an orchard tractor so badly he rationalized one thing into meaning it was, over two things that could have been original saying it's not. Just my opinion. 👍
So I take it that particular 3020 did not have the underslung exhaust. It was what he wanted rather than factory. Customized in other words. Nice restore nonetheless.
It had an upright exhaust in the pre restoration photos but who knows if that wasn't something done by a previous owner. I would have thought that exhaust could have been made using preformed bends and something a bit less "off the shelf" for clamps.
John Deere Low Profile tractors did come factory with under slung exhaust to keep it from snagging on the tree branches. This one obviously had been changed at some point in its life prior to the restoration.
@@martingardener90 Just looking at the original photos it appears that the muffler came up through an opening in the hood as the standard 3020's did. Nice bit of body work by the students.
@@badriv455 The under slung exhaust was an option on them. They all used the same hood, the ones that came from the factory with under slung exhaust had a metal plate that snapped into the opening in the hood. I had a summer job working at a Deere dealership when I was a teen back in the 1980s and some guy bought a used 3020 and he wanted to park it in his garage and the exhaust pipe was too tall to fit in the door and I managed to track down the under-slung exhaust pipe and the plate for the hood for him. I am sure those parts are NLA from Deere at this point because these tractors are over 50 years old.
We had a 4020 powershift/side console with 34 rears. It was rated at like 90 HP. It was rated for 82/84 drawbar, and in reality pulled like it was about 70. Super nice chore tractor, but when it came time to pull or work hard it barely outpaced our David Brown 1200 that had 30's on the back. The 10 and 20 series JD had no guts, well built and nice, but once they started to lug down they just plain ran out of steam. We had Case, the DB(and a 1210) a MM U302 Super(Gas) even a couple old 2cyl JD and an IH H. All of them could lug down and recover, except the 4020. That's why people compare 5020's to Case 1030's and 1070's, and 4320's and 5020's to Oliver 1950's etc. JD made some nice stuff, but it sure gets put on a pedastal.
Wow that’s a great way to educate the mechanical class by diving head first into a tractor. Fantastic job you all did!
Loved the 3020 and 4020 series!!
And now Ted is well known for his hydraulic remote rebuilding. Does a fantastic job at a reasonable price!
I bought that exact rollbar and canopy that is on that tractor in video before it was restored, I knew the pictures were framiliar. I fixed it up a bit and mounted it on my 72’ 4000, can’t beat working in the shade in the summer.
So that tractor spent some time in northwest Iowa, I know that is the one.
The proper term for the exhaust is MANDREL bending. It is desired because there is no flow restriction in the pipe.
I was thinking the same thing. When I was younger I operated a mandrel bending machine to bend coil return pipes for heating and cooling coils.
Awesome tractor, I have seen them, but never used or ran one, sure would like to. Oh well, I guess I can just enjoy watching these videos for my fulfillment. Thanks for sharing and have a nice week ahead!
That's a cool unit., I didn't know that they were 71 HP.
These tractors were designed and built from a whole different mindset from the engineers today. Tractors have never really been cheap. If you work on new equipment and see how cheap the parts are made its obvious they are not designed to last very long. My and my Grandfather tore down a 1953 Catapillar crawler dozer, it was cable operated. I hated to scrap it but it was too far gone to repair for any reasonable price. I still have the crank shaft out of it it only weighs about 500 lbs. That machine in every aspect of its engine transmission and drive assembleys would have easily lasted a lifetime of use if properly maintained.
In the early 70s 10,000 usd is about 60,000 todays money. and thats what those big heavy JD tractors cost give or take depending on your options and equipment. If you buy a newer 50-70 hp tractor it is so light it wont actually put the horsepower to the ground with out adding weight! I had to add over 1000lbs to get my 50hp Kubota to ever work right and do what I needed it to do!!!
Back when these tractors were new they were the big tractor on most farms and were used for plowing. My dad bought a new 3020 in '72 along with a 4 bottom plow and it was the big tractor on our farm until 1979 when he bought a 4440.
Nobody uses a 50-70 HP tractor for plowing anymore, (nobody does much plowing anymore anyway) so that size tractors are designed completely differently than what they were 50 years ago.
I had to hang 600lbs of wheel weights on my 2001 JD 5210 to keep the ass end from coming off the ground when using the 521 loader.
💗💗💗💗💗 Nice Video My Friend 💗💗💗💗💗
I wish my Paint Job looked that good.....
Curious what a 1966 JD 3020 LP power shift what would be worth.
So did you install a different hood without the opening for the upright exhaust or was the hood you currently have the one this tractor was "supposed" to have?
They all used the same hood. If you got the down exhaust option it came with an oval plug made of sheet metal that fit over the hole in the hood. You could put the down exhaust on any of them not just low profile models.
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To be for sure it was an orchard tractor can't the VIN number be researched and find out that way? Because it had the smaller rear tires that could have been scavenged and put on the tractor later and the exhaust was in the right place and it had the original roof over the seat instead of being added later or moved later. To me it could go either way being it was originally in Florida that could possible make it an orchard tractor but it's just as possible that the rims and tires were added later as the muffler and roof over the seat could be a modification after it was an orchard tractor. I'd lean more towards it wasn't an orchard tractor and it's more likely the rims and wheels were scavenged off a broken down orchard tractor and added later in its life instead of buying new rubber. I think he wanted it to be an orchard tractor so badly he rationalized one thing into meaning it was, over two things that could have been original saying it's not. Just my opinion. 👍
It’s a standard model. Not an orchard.
That fact that it originated from Florida in early 70 would strongly suggest it was. Basically orchards and horse farms down there at that time.
So I take it that particular 3020 did not have the underslung exhaust. It was what he wanted rather than factory. Customized in other words. Nice restore nonetheless.
It had an upright exhaust in the pre restoration photos but who knows if that wasn't something done by a previous owner. I would have thought that exhaust could have been made using preformed bends and something a bit less "off the shelf" for clamps.
John Deere Low Profile tractors did come factory with under slung exhaust to keep it from snagging on the tree branches. This one obviously had been changed at some point in its life prior to the restoration.
@@martingardener90 Just looking at the original photos it appears that the muffler came up through an opening in the hood as the standard 3020's did. Nice bit of body work by the students.
@@badriv455 The under slung exhaust was an option on them. They all used the same hood, the ones that came from the factory with under slung exhaust had a metal plate that snapped into the opening in the hood. I had a summer job working at a Deere dealership when I was a teen back in the 1980s and some guy bought a used 3020 and he wanted to park it in his garage and the exhaust pipe was too tall to fit in the door and I managed to track down the under-slung exhaust pipe and the plate for the hood for him. I am sure those parts are NLA from Deere at this point because these tractors are over 50 years old.
Not an orchard. It’s a standard.
JD refers to it as a utility model. Standards had the same tires as a row crop.
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Rated horsepower and rear horsepower was a lie, powershift sucked a lot of power.
We had a 4020 powershift/side console with 34 rears. It was rated at like 90 HP. It was rated for 82/84 drawbar, and in reality pulled like it was about 70. Super nice chore tractor, but when it came time to pull or work hard it barely outpaced our David Brown 1200 that had 30's on the back. The 10 and 20 series JD had no guts, well built and nice, but once they started to lug down they just plain ran out of steam. We had Case, the DB(and a 1210) a MM U302 Super(Gas) even a couple old 2cyl JD and an IH H. All of them could lug down and recover, except the 4020. That's why people compare 5020's to Case 1030's and 1070's, and 4320's and 5020's to Oliver 1950's etc. JD made some nice stuff, but it sure gets put on a pedastal.