Well, as far as treasure hunting goes, the Master Emerald is a strong prize. Maybe Knuckles has had to deal with treasure hunters besides Rouge? Also, I like the theory you have about the MeteoTech robots. It certainly fits.
Same. If they hadn't shoved in that shitty Kinect, or at least if the motion controls actually worked, it wouldn't have killed the Sonic Riders series.
Either Knuckles has been taking lessons from Rouge or he's hunted the M.E. shards a lot more times than what we've actually seen onscreen. Probably a mix of both.
Haha! You noticed it too eh? I caught that right on the first time I played this game. That model of the Eggmobile's design is so hard to forget that I knew there was no doubt in my mind it was ripped from Sonic Adventure or DX.
The Knuckles fan in me wants a bridge game to explain why his role as a guardian is suddenly unrelevant. I don't care if it doesn't make perfect sense, I just want... something. Maybe the Master Emerald was destroyed/lost at some point? Maybe he decided that living the island alone in the ocean isn't much of a big deal anymore because the only one trying to go for it is Eggman, and he is clearly doing other things and won't care for it anymore? SOMETHING!
Pro Tip:For those of you who want to gain more GP in Tempest Water Way (finding yourself running short anyway) , you can jump off the little waterfall platforms in the beginning, really easy to get the X rank on them, and two out of the three can give you 2/3 of your bar back.
Fun Fact for the Gigan Rocks track. If you use the Gravity Dive and do a dash blast thing off of one of the things near the Jump you get an automatic X rank trick.
Well technically we know that all the chaotic members, of the original group included mighty and Ray, but we haven't seen mighty and Ray working with the detective agency, and considering possible bands it makes sense that they would be other treasure hunters.
6:48 Knuckles: "Let's see, there's Rouge, Fang the Sniper, haven't seen him in a while, Mighty, and of course, the Chaotix. Man, for being isolated on an island, I have quite the circle of friends, don't I?"
More fun facts. In that last scene when Eggman stole the (ill call it Gravity Stone) gravity stones from Jet that song was a remix from the first Riders game.
Jet: You're late! Storm: Sorry boss, but I had to ride my board around the area three times before I was allowed to come inside the ship. Racing game rules.
SCR-HD is the leader robot. He's an Air Ride-type Flying character, as opposed to the Wheel-type Power SCR-GP (the other mass-produced robots). He functions as the only permanent Air Ride-type Gear with no gear parts.
Then I guess that in another few years, Knuckles will be wearing the Master Emerald in a ring around his finger. But wait, he wears gloves so that wouldn't be right.... Necklace!
When Wave starts talking, the music playing is a remake of the Sonic the Hedgehog 02 (Sega GS) version of Hidden Palace Zone. It's never really mentioned, but it's worth knowing. :) ~ Roya
Actually, to the best of my recollection, SCR-GP (the normal robot) is a power type, and SCR-HD (the leader robot) is a flying type. They may handle awkwardly, but that's because they are designed to emphasise the wheel mechanic instead of using the gravity turn (in a sharp turn, you are expected to jump, and hold the button while turning to grind along the ground and shoot off again at a great speed. The game doesn't do a great job at telling you this, but it's something you learn over time).
To simplify things how about we say the reason the Master Emerald keeps changing sizes when Knuckles holds it is because as the guardian of the Master Emerald he has the power to interact with it in more ways than anyone else just like Tikal
Yeah that's a very good point.....SA2 had Sonic magically knowing how to Chaos Control.....I should just go with these things....roll with it....aliens exist.
When Clement was talking about Crunch being a horribly controlled racer, I thought he was talking about Crunch Bandicoot. Which is funny because in Crash Nitro Kart, Crunch had horrible handling as well. So I guess that means if your name is Crunch, you're automatically a bad driver.
In all the times I've played this game I've never noticed that the Eggomatic model was from SA1. Guess that shows how much of an impact Zero gravity left on me
Wait, what?? How did Eggman do that? There were three people in that room! Eggman didn't even make a sound. At least Storm should have noticed somebody taking the important objects. And then Eggman was already outside the ship in his eggmobile in, like, seconds! That dude really is the fastest thing alive. He's also a better ninja than Espio. Also, that was one creepy face he made through the window, haha.
The major difference between the Mook Robots and the Leader Robot is that the Leader robot is capable of flight... and isn't a power character. Other than that... who knew that Eggman was a Level 20 Trickster.
The theory makes sense since in Riders universe, everyone's way slower on foot unless with a special power-up... just like 2006 and Sonic can't directly fight robots... just like how he can't use the super sonic spin attack on robots in 2006... aunno, I could see STH and Riders universe being the same.
maybe since knuckles is sopost to watch the master emerald so much he goes on his computer to look up treasure hunting stuff and maybe he found those people out
I really think the writers for this game initially thought the races were linear rather than lap-based. But they found out way too late in the process. Wouldn't be the first time Sonic Team rushed a game...
That's not gonna be for a while. He's playing the games in order of release. We still have Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Black Night, Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games, a possible Look At of Sega All Stars Tennis, Sonic Free Riders, and Sonic's move-set in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, then Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing, and Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 (Not exactly in that order maybe). Then it's Sonic Colors.
14:55-15:20 Is that? Was that!? Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik's Egg mobile model from the first Sonic Adventure game!? It is or at least its gotta be, because I played that old gem dozens of time throughout my childhood and life. It even moves like it did in Sonic Adventures as well as the model's texture choice make it stand out when seen Robotnik's riding it and the Egg Mobile is flying away from the Babylon Rogues' ship like when Tails and Amy were escaping the Egg Carrier that was "losing altitude" at the time in SA1 with everything in that scene being proper CGI except for Amy and Tails. Thanks game! ^w^ 15:21 HA! X3 ^w^
Actually, SCR-HD is a Fly Type despite being a wheel. I've tried taking power shortcuts with it, but it crashed. SCR-GP can take power shortcuts as it is a Power Type, but you're right about it having the worst control in the game.
Wait... the plot remembered that Knuckles isn't just a caricature of stupidity? That's pretty impressive Sonic Team, I thought that Shadow stole all Knuckles' potential to be interesting. Can... I have this Knuckles back?
The only beef I have with Zero Gravity's soundtrack (I have the soundtrack, but not the game) is the heavy orchestral-ness. I kind of liked the more electronic songs from the original game because they felt like they had more variety between tracks -- every song being based on a different set of sounds. I do like the overdriven TB-303s though.
This is so perfect, Eggman brings back his SA1 vehicle to serve it's greatest function: Snagging magic rocks from protagonists and getting away.
About that theory at the beginning of this video...that doesn't sound too far fetched. I was actually kinda thinkin' the same thing.
Well, as far as treasure hunting goes, the Master Emerald is a strong prize. Maybe Knuckles has had to deal with treasure hunters besides Rouge?
Also, I like the theory you have about the MeteoTech robots. It certainly fits.
Jet's reaction to Eggman stealing the gravity stones was priceless!
The pog
Thats the theory im stickin with clement is a genius
If Free Riders wasn't motion controlled, it'd be fine
I agree
Same. If they hadn't shoved in that shitty Kinect, or at least if the motion controls actually worked, it wouldn't have killed the Sonic Riders series.
Either Knuckles has been taking lessons from Rouge or he's hunted the M.E. shards a lot more times than what we've actually seen onscreen. Probably a mix of both.
TobyandMavisforever or me met Indiana jones or other treasure hunters
4:44 Honestly, this may be my favorite bit of character development in the series. Knuckles is "the world's greatest treasure hunter" after all.
"We'll be risking our necks!"
"YEAH! Don't worry.... we don't HAVE necks!"
The cutscene in which Eggman steals the arks of the cosmos from Jet is priceless. Eggman trolling at his finest.
Finally! Someone who didn't bash "Free". I've seen reviews or brief reviews bash it, and I don't know why.
Haha! You noticed it too eh? I caught that right on the first time I played this game. That model of the Eggmobile's design is so hard to forget that I knew there was no doubt in my mind it was ripped from Sonic Adventure or DX.
The Knuckles fan in me wants a bridge game to explain why his role as a guardian is suddenly unrelevant. I don't care if it doesn't make perfect sense, I just want... something. Maybe the Master Emerald was destroyed/lost at some point? Maybe he decided that living the island alone in the ocean isn't much of a big deal anymore because the only one trying to go for it is Eggman, and he is clearly doing other things and won't care for it anymore? SOMETHING!
14:57 THAT MUSIC! SO FREAKING GOOD!
Pro Tip:For those of you who want to gain more GP in Tempest Water Way (finding yourself running short anyway) , you can jump off the little waterfall platforms in the beginning, really easy to get the X rank on them, and two out of the three can give you 2/3 of your bar back.
Fun Fact for the Gigan Rocks track. If you use the Gravity Dive and do a dash blast thing off of one of the things near the Jump you get an automatic X rank trick.
Sonic Riders may have a premise that's backward from Sonic's concept, but the story's the best I've ever seen in a Sonic game.
Well technically we know that all the chaotic members, of the original group included mighty and Ray, but we haven't seen mighty and Ray working with the detective agency, and considering possible bands it makes sense that they would be other treasure hunters.
Heheheh, only Clement would notice something so trivial like that model at the end. Props. Good eye.
5:20 knux: we´ll be risking our necks. Sonic: Don´t worry, we dont have necks
6:48 Knuckles: "Let's see, there's Rouge, Fang the Sniper, haven't seen him in a while, Mighty, and of course, the Chaotix. Man, for being isolated on an island, I have quite the circle of friends, don't I?"
Aquatic city is my favorite track and song, when I was a younger I wondered what that city would be like if it was real
Is it me or this game gets better and better? Even in 2020 this game makes me proud to say that I have played omg
14:47 And that was the day that eggman has an IQ of 300!
Knuckles joined the 'Treasure Hunter" group on Facebook. That's how he knows about other Treasure hunters.
Because its too happy for him , he likes dark and gritty games
jet actually sounds like a legit badass in this game
i would love to hear the robotnik theme as he went away at the end. lol.
More fun facts. In that last scene when Eggman stole the (ill call it Gravity Stone) gravity stones from Jet that song was a remix from the first Riders game.
Thanx for making 06 cannon now Clement🤣
Jet: You're late!
Storm: Sorry boss, but I had to ride my board around the area three times before I was allowed to come inside the ship. Racing game rules.
So Dr Eggman can sneak into a room where there are 3 people, steal two big objects and leave the airplane with a evil laugh? He's amazing.
Master Emerald Theory: the emerald has the power to change size at the beholder’s wield or can adjust to different spaces over time.
clement must be real proud with eggman in the last scene here (well when isnt he?) and amy sure is aggressive in this game
I was half expecting Eggman to go Ssssssss Boom! since he was creepin.
I love Zero Gravity's sound track. Other than the 2 main themes Gigan rock and the final boss themes are some of my favorite in the series.
the leader robot is SCR-HD and he is a power/flight types
Oh Jet. You'll never catch eggman for he is the TRUE fastest thing alive. HO HO HO!
That fan theory is actually pretty logical.Seems smart
The music when Eggman steals the stones is an instrumental version of 'I am de eggsman"
He's literally a master of everything except world domination
SCR-HD is the leader robot. He's an Air Ride-type Flying character, as opposed to the Wheel-type Power SCR-GP (the other mass-produced robots). He functions as the only permanent Air Ride-type Gear with no gear parts.
I think he got it all out of his system with review.
If there was ever a stealth type, Eggman would be an obvious character for it :D
Then I guess that in another few years, Knuckles will be wearing the Master Emerald in a ring around his finger. But wait, he wears gloves so that wouldn't be right.... Necklace!
When Wave starts talking, the music playing is a remake of the Sonic the Hedgehog 02 (Sega GS) version of Hidden Palace Zone.
It's never really mentioned, but it's worth knowing. :)
~ Roya
Every time Knuckles does the boost thing, he sounds like he's shouting Fus-Roh-Dah or another shout.
How the heck does Eggman, with his big self, can sneak in and steal those stones without being notices? Go Eggman!
Finally a game where Knuckles is not an idiot
Actually, to the best of my recollection, SCR-GP (the normal robot) is a power type, and SCR-HD (the leader robot) is a flying type. They may handle awkwardly, but that's because they are designed to emphasise the wheel mechanic instead of using the gravity turn (in a sharp turn, you are expected to jump, and hold the button while turning to grind along the ground and shoot off again at a great speed. The game doesn't do a great job at telling you this, but it's something you learn over time).
13:32
Can we all take a minute to appreciate the painting hanging above Jet?
To simplify things how about we say the reason the Master Emerald keeps changing sizes when Knuckles holds it is because as the guardian of the Master Emerald he has the power to interact with it in more ways than anyone else just like Tikal
One treasure hunter Knuckles knows is Rouge, she gets around a bit....
Looks like both Dr. Wily and Dr. Eggman are ninjas, who knew.
That doesn't stop regular fans from speculating.
clement you have inspierd me your the best and i hope to see you again in summer
Yeah that's a very good point.....SA2 had Sonic magically knowing how to Chaos Control.....I should just go with these things....roll with it....aliens exist.
Well in SA2 Sonic is consumed with chaos energy so teleporting was possible as Sonic has the ability to copy abilities like tail's spindash
i was about to say about Eggman's machine until you said at the end hahah
Knuckles: We'll be risking our necks!
Me: What necks?!
When Clement was talking about Crunch being a horribly controlled racer, I thought he was talking about Crunch Bandicoot. Which is funny because in Crash Nitro Kart, Crunch had horrible handling as well. So I guess that means if your name is Crunch, you're automatically a bad driver.
So Meteotek must be Robotnik's legitimate business, and how he funds his evil robot empires.
His sneak skill was at 100, and he had the Silent Running perk.
A "lightless black" connected to gravity maguffins... hmm... I got it! It must be a stormcloud!
I'm JUST now realizing how painful it would be if anybody actually tried to wear those goggle they have on
I want to imagine a fan comic about that theory. It does sound like an interesting theory, and it explains the bland, shitty look of the bots from 06.
i just thought sonic riders took place in an alternate universe where eggman was a corrupt businessman
In all the times I've played this game I've never noticed that the Eggomatic model was from SA1. Guess that shows how much of an impact Zero gravity left on me
"We'll be risking our necks"
Me: You don't have a neck Knuckles...
That SA1 Eggmobile sticks out like a sore thumb. 1998 model in a 2007 game, if it wouldnt be for the nostalgia I would be like WTF?!
Wait, what?? How did Eggman do that? There were three people in that room! Eggman didn't even make a sound. At least Storm should have noticed somebody taking the important objects. And then Eggman was already outside the ship in his eggmobile in, like, seconds! That dude really is the fastest thing alive. He's also a better ninja than Espio. Also, that was one creepy face he made through the window, haha.
Maybe the Master Emerald is like the Allspark from those goddawful live-action Transformers movies.
You know maybe their going in circles so they can find what their looking for and Judy fail at it until the third try.
I totally noticed that Eggmobile from SA1! :D
The major difference between the Mook Robots and the Leader Robot is that the Leader robot is capable of flight... and isn't a power character.
Other than that... who knew that Eggman was a Level 20 Trickster.
that's good fanfic clement
Your logic, makes sense. Btw, you have a terribly adorable laugh and you're terribly funny ^.^"
I imagine that Knuckles goes to TreasureCon every year.
The theory makes sense since in Riders universe, everyone's way slower on foot unless with a special power-up... just like 2006
and Sonic can't directly fight robots... just like how he can't use the super sonic spin attack on robots in 2006...
aunno, I could see STH and Riders universe being the same.
grraaah Knuckles you are not a treasure hunter! You're a neglegent guardian!
SCR-HD is a flying character, while SCR-GP is a power character. SCR-HD is the leader.
Airplanes and a skyfall like shooting stars!
Maybe he's wearing the ring under his gloves, that'd explain why his gloves change sizes in between games.
maybe since knuckles is sopost to watch the master emerald so much he goes on his computer to look up treasure hunting stuff and maybe he found those people out
You're not missing much. Lol Generations is the only PS3/360 Sonic game worth talking about.
video game logic aint nobody got time for that
I really think the writers for this game initially thought the races were linear rather than lap-based. But they found out way too late in the process. Wouldn't be the first time Sonic Team rushed a game...
That theory- that...th-that's actually a good point o.o; Never thought of it.
That's not gonna be for a while. He's playing the games in order of release. We still have Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Black Night, Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games, a possible Look At of Sega All Stars Tennis, Sonic Free Riders, and Sonic's move-set in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, then Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing, and Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 (Not exactly in that order maybe). Then it's Sonic Colors.
WOW, KNUCKLES KNOWS SOMETHING.
14:55-15:20 Is that? Was that!? Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik's Egg mobile model from the first Sonic Adventure game!? It is or at least its gotta be, because I played that old gem dozens of time throughout my childhood and life. It even moves like it did in Sonic Adventures as well as the model's texture choice make it stand out when seen Robotnik's riding it and the Egg Mobile is flying away from the Babylon Rogues' ship like when Tails and Amy were escaping the Egg Carrier that was "losing altitude" at the time in SA1 with everything in that scene being proper CGI except for Amy and Tails. Thanks game! ^w^
15:21 HA! X3 ^w^
Actually, SCR-HD is a Fly Type despite being a wheel. I've tried taking power shortcuts with it, but it crashed. SCR-GP can take power shortcuts as it is a Power Type, but you're right about it having the worst control in the game.
0:29 - 1:20
MINDBLOWN
It sure does look nice!
Let's face it.
Eggman has gotten betrayed by pretty much EVERYTHING since Sonic became a 3D series...
Except infinite. Eggman betrayed him.
If I remember correctly, the "leader Robot", when you're playing as him he's not actually a power type, he's a flying type
Clement states his fan theory
My mind= Blown
It is ripped straight outta Adventure 1.
Wait... the plot remembered that Knuckles isn't just a caricature of stupidity? That's pretty impressive Sonic Team, I thought that Shadow stole all Knuckles' potential to be interesting. Can... I have this Knuckles back?
fun fact: Amy's voice actress also voiced acted Miss Maiden from Yu gi oh GX (sorry for my english.)
The only beef I have with Zero Gravity's soundtrack (I have the soundtrack, but not the game) is the heavy orchestral-ness. I kind of liked the more electronic songs from the original game because they felt like they had more variety between tracks -- every song being based on a different set of sounds. I do like the overdriven TB-303s though.