This ticks all the right boxes in terms of its mechanical design features. It's perfect in that regard. The negatives are the range and price. Create a non-integrated battery option where you slide a fresh battery down inside the shaft from the top and I am sold.
I don't see this design getting enough credit for how much space it could save in small craft with motor wells. Like cruising dinghy's. Its a niche market for sure. The well could be made much smaller. The well doesn't have to accommodate a traditional 'head' that extends forward of the mount and requires swing space inside the well.
Loving this unit. What are we looking at for the amount of charge cycles that consumers can expect until end of life? Also, warranty is full replacement? Thinking for batteries and speed controller or shaft leaks into the motor.
Most users will need to replace their electric outboard batteries due to time, not charge cycles. We expect a battery life on the eLite of about 7-10 years if it is properly cared for. Each warranty claim is different, but given that the eLite has relatively few serviceable parts, we expect full replacements to be more common than with the Spirit.
Really great video this and the best out there so thanks. I really want to move on one of these but here in the Bristol Channel UK we have quite fearsome high tides and it can be choppy. With a 2.3m inflatable as a tender and having to travel a round trip of say 1.5nm, I'm wondering if this will have the power/guts to cut through the water and get me home?
Glad that you enjoyed the video! We'd expect a 2.3m inflatable to do between 4 and 4.5 knots with an eLite in calm conditions. You'd have about 45 minutes of run time at full power, which would give you about 3nm of range. If you're fighting current and chop, your speed at full power and range will certainly decrease, although by how much is difficult to say. Do you know how many knots of current you're usually dealing with?
@EMOElectric - 1. How exactly does one tighten the steering friction? 2. I have a 6" thick ISLE Switch Pro SUP with mounting plates for a transom. What would be the optimal depth or shaft length for the propeller? 3. What range would you guess the eLite would have at @1/4 power?
The steering friction can be tightened by tightening the nut on the bottom of the transom bracket with a 10mm hex wrench. The top of the propeller should be just below the bottom of the SUP. We'd need to know the distance from the top of the mounting bracket to the bottom of the SUP to figure out the ideal shaft length for the eLite, but I suspect it that the elite would work well for that. In terms of range, I would expect that you'd get about 3 hours of run time at 1/4 power. Feel free to send us an email to luke@emoelectric.co and I'd be happy to work out the details of this with you!
Yes, it can be charged with solar during use, but it would be a trickle charge. Whatever wattage panels you are using to charge the motor, once you are over that wattage while using the motor it would start to discharge but slowly. We haven't had a chance to test the solar charge controller with the eLite yet to get an idea of charge time.
@@EMOElectric If you can charge w/ solar while operating, then I assume the 12v charger option for the Elite can be used while in use. If this is correct, then maybe you can really extend the range and charge at more than a trickle with the right battery.
Shaft measurements are slightly different for most electric outboards compared to combustion outboards. The highest transom the eLite can accommodate is about 15.5 inches. Please take a look at this guide from ePropulsion. At its longest setting, the eLite has the same shaft length as the Spirit 1.0 Plus extra short. You would likely need the Spirit 1.0 Plus short shaft. www.epropulsion.com/post/measure-electric-outboard-shaft-length/
I'm a bit worried about any kind of potentially missing internal battery management software if they are really worried about having to babythe batteries state of charge, especially considering the products seasonality. Besides that I think it's a pretty awesome design overall. Like others have mentioned I really wish that the internal battery was hot-swappable, or if they made a version that had twice the internal capacity with the same sleek design.
Like all ePropulsion batteries, the eLite has an internal BMS. You do need to check the state of charge when the motor is not in regular use, but ePropulsion recommends once every three months. ePropulsion doesn't tell us anything about products that are in development, but we wouldn't be surprised if there is a bigger version of the eLite in the works!
Is the elite variable speed? In other words, can you go at a very slow speed for trolling, etc... I am only seeing references to half and full speed. thanks
it is sad there is no provision to add a supplementary battery power source to the Elite because the battery is "built in"side of the shaft. Seems to me that 45 minutes of runtime is not much for an auxiliary electric outboard that has no provision to add additional battery. Some thought should be considered for a simple clamshell housing to secure the 2 motor bracket screw downs to eliminate their loosening & unscrewing with loss of the motor overboard. It is a good idea that might benefit from improvement.
We haven't heard of any issues with the bracket loosening up, but there is a small area where you can tie a line through the elite and to your boat if you are concerned about it falling off. If you are looking for something with longer range and the option to add third party batteries, or batteries that you can swap out, we would recommend the Spirit Evo or Spirit 1.0 Plus.
Yes, we have 12v and solar charge controllers available for the eLite. emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-standard-charger-copy
Yes, we sell 12v chargers and solar charge controllers for the eLite. They are backordered at the moment but we expect to have them in September. emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-solar-charge-controller
@@EMOElectric I guess this answers my previous questions regarding AC charging. Thanks. Since the Elite can be AC charged during operation, is there an ideal fast charge method (charger plus external battery combo)
@@BrookStockton The same is true of most electric outboards; the batteries need to be disposed of. I have just had to dispose of two batteries for a Torqeedo after 10 years.
Good question! If you do the math, 500w does not equal 1.5hp. But this 500w motor will perform like a 1.5hp combustion outboard. Electric outboards are much more efficient than gas outboards, and their power output is measured differently. Check out our blog post on the topic for the full explanation. emoelectric.co/blogs/electric-outboard/understanding-electric-outboards-horsepower-vs-kilowatt
We would not recommend attempting this, and doing so would certainly void the warranty. If you need more range, we'd recommend the Spirit 1.0 Plus or Spirit Evo, both of which can be used with external and/or third party batteries.
The eLite is designed to be light weight, low cost, and portable. If you'd like to use an electric outboard that hooks up to an external battery, we'd suggest the ePropulsion 1.0 Plus. ruclips.net/video/U1CYLdZm0DY/видео.html
Love this new setup keep the battery cool aswell
This ticks all the right boxes in terms of its mechanical design features. It's perfect in that regard. The negatives are the range and price. Create a non-integrated battery option where you slide a fresh battery down inside the shaft from the top and I am sold.
Absolutely the best RUclips video on this motor
Glad you found it helpful!
Couldn't agree more! Superb video and certainly the best on YT. Even better than ePropulsion's tutorial vids!
Can you lock the transom bracket to your dingy to minimise theft?
I don't see this design getting enough credit for how much space it could save in small craft with motor wells. Like cruising dinghy's. Its a niche market for sure. The well could be made much smaller. The well doesn't have to accommodate a traditional 'head' that extends forward of the mount and requires swing space inside the well.
Absolutely- that's what the eLite is designed for. It isn't a perfect solution for every boater, but it's a great solution for some!
Loving this unit.
What are we looking at for the amount of charge cycles that consumers can expect until end of life?
Also, warranty is full replacement? Thinking for batteries and speed controller or shaft leaks into the motor.
Most users will need to replace their electric outboard batteries due to time, not charge cycles. We expect a battery life on the eLite of about 7-10 years if it is properly cared for. Each warranty claim is different, but given that the eLite has relatively few serviceable parts, we expect full replacements to be more common than with the Spirit.
A few concerns:
Water ingress
Materials used in re corrosion resistance
Battery life/ eventual replacement
Recharge options/specs
Really great video this and the best out there so thanks. I really want to move on one of these but here in the Bristol Channel UK we have quite fearsome high tides and it can be choppy. With a 2.3m inflatable as a tender and having to travel a round trip of say 1.5nm, I'm wondering if this will have the power/guts to cut through the water and get me home?
Glad that you enjoyed the video! We'd expect a 2.3m inflatable to do between 4 and 4.5 knots with an eLite in calm conditions. You'd have about 45 minutes of run time at full power, which would give you about 3nm of range. If you're fighting current and chop, your speed at full power and range will certainly decrease, although by how much is difficult to say. Do you know how many knots of current you're usually dealing with?
@@EMOElectric Thanks for the reply! Tide flows at around 3 knots
@EMOElectric - 1. How exactly does one tighten the steering friction? 2. I have a 6" thick ISLE Switch Pro SUP with mounting plates for a transom. What would be the optimal depth or shaft length for the propeller? 3. What range would you guess the eLite would have at @1/4 power?
The steering friction can be tightened by tightening the nut on the bottom of the transom bracket with a 10mm hex wrench. The top of the propeller should be just below the bottom of the SUP. We'd need to know the distance from the top of the mounting bracket to the bottom of the SUP to figure out the ideal shaft length for the eLite, but I suspect it that the elite would work well for that. In terms of range, I would expect that you'd get about 3 hours of run time at 1/4 power. Feel free to send us an email to luke@emoelectric.co and I'd be happy to work out the details of this with you!
Any data on using the solar set up with this unit? Can it solar charge while being in use?
Yes, it can be charged with solar during use, but it would be a trickle charge. Whatever wattage panels you are using to charge the motor, once you are over that wattage while using the motor it would start to discharge but slowly. We haven't had a chance to test the solar charge controller with the eLite yet to get an idea of charge time.
@@EMOElectric If you can charge w/ solar while operating, then I assume the 12v charger option for the Elite can be used while in use. If this is correct, then maybe you can really extend the range and charge at more than a trickle with the right battery.
I need a 20 inch shaft. It sounded like the eLite will not work for that length. What is maxium measurement from top of transom to bottom of boat?
Shaft measurements are slightly different for most electric outboards compared to combustion outboards. The highest transom the eLite can accommodate is about 15.5 inches. Please take a look at this guide from ePropulsion. At its longest setting, the eLite has the same shaft length as the Spirit 1.0 Plus extra short. You would likely need the Spirit 1.0 Plus short shaft.
www.epropulsion.com/post/measure-electric-outboard-shaft-length/
I'm a bit worried about any kind of potentially missing internal battery management software if they are really worried about having to babythe batteries state of charge, especially considering the products seasonality. Besides that I think it's a pretty awesome design overall. Like others have mentioned I really wish that the internal battery was hot-swappable, or if they made a version that had twice the internal capacity with the same sleek design.
Like all ePropulsion batteries, the eLite has an internal BMS. You do need to check the state of charge when the motor is not in regular use, but ePropulsion recommends once every three months. ePropulsion doesn't tell us anything about products that are in development, but we wouldn't be surprised if there is a bigger version of the eLite in the works!
Is the elite variable speed? In other words, can you go at a very slow speed for trolling, etc... I am only seeing references to half and full speed. thanks
Yes! The throttle works just like a gas outboard tiller throttle and does have variable speed. You can use it to go very slowly.
it is sad there is no provision to add a supplementary battery power source to the Elite because the battery is "built in"side of the shaft. Seems to me that 45 minutes of runtime is not much for an auxiliary electric outboard that has no provision to add additional battery. Some thought should be considered for a simple clamshell housing to secure the 2 motor bracket screw downs to eliminate their loosening & unscrewing with loss of the motor overboard. It is a good idea that might benefit from improvement.
We haven't heard of any issues with the bracket loosening up, but there is a small area where you can tie a line through the elite and to your boat if you are concerned about it falling off. If you are looking for something with longer range and the option to add third party batteries, or batteries that you can swap out, we would recommend the Spirit Evo or Spirit 1.0 Plus.
What’s the cost for a new battery?
Are there any power box options available to charge the battery while in use on the water?
Yes, we have 12v and solar charge controllers available for the eLite.
emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger
emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-standard-charger-copy
Can it be charged on the go?
Yes, we sell 12v chargers and solar charge controllers for the eLite. They are backordered at the moment but we expect to have them in September.
emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger
emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-solar-charge-controller
@@EMOElectric hi, does it mean it can run while being charged? Thanks.
@@paulschlemmer3825 We did test that the eLite will run while being charged with the standard AC charger.
@@EMOElectric I guess this answers my previous questions regarding AC charging. Thanks. Since the Elite can be AC charged during operation, is there an ideal fast charge method (charger plus external battery combo)
@@GuySkellenger You're welcome! The fastest way to charge the eLite is with the AC charger.
is the battery replaceable?
Hi- the battery is not replaceable.
@@EMOElectricso unit has to be thrown away when batteries are end of life?
@@BrookStockton The same is true of most electric outboards; the batteries need to be disposed of. I have just had to dispose of two batteries for a Torqeedo after 10 years.
How can 500w equate to 1.5hp ?
Good question! If you do the math, 500w does not equal 1.5hp. But this 500w motor will perform like a 1.5hp combustion outboard. Electric outboards are much more efficient than gas outboards, and their power output is measured differently. Check out our blog post on the topic for the full explanation. emoelectric.co/blogs/electric-outboard/understanding-electric-outboards-horsepower-vs-kilowatt
surely you could remove that black top cap , drill a small hole & run some wires for an external battery
We would not recommend attempting this, and doing so would certainly void the warranty. If you need more range, we'd recommend the Spirit 1.0 Plus or Spirit Evo, both of which can be used with external and/or third party batteries.
When these gadgets evolve into 120 amp hour lifepo battery and 70 pounds of thrust , im in
People like you will ALWAYS find an excuse to rebuke technology, no matter how advanced it gets.
It would be perfect is we could attach an external battery. Cant believe they did not add that. Such a shame.
The eLite is designed to be light weight, low cost, and portable. If you'd like to use an electric outboard that hooks up to an external battery, we'd suggest the ePropulsion 1.0 Plus.
ruclips.net/video/U1CYLdZm0DY/видео.html
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