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I love the freaky shit in Legends. I am so glad Lucasfilm decided to have freaky shit in Canon as well. Speaking of which... You should really do a video on freaky shit in Canon. Good examples that come to mind are the Ovanis creature and Ravna.
Legends really had something for everyone; futuristic sci-fi, epic magical fantasy, horror...Disney canon is like 90% rebels vs stormtroopers, and it doesn't seem to be changing. :/
Add to the fact that legends had shown the "bad guys" perspective often and showed the "good guys" as evil. Disney usually just sticks to the concept that only one side is good and another is bad.
@@imperialofficerremusblackw8452 Tbf, the expanded material in canon does the same thing, especially in books. Even Rogue One showed the Rebellion as not being so squeaky clean. The rest of the Disney Star Wars films have been shite, though.
Well, there is a fungal infestation with force power taking cybernetics people as host to continue its crusade... But, yeah, for now, there are creating the foundations so they don't stray too far from what ovies shown us.
@@voicegonetohell5234 *Emperor has a eldritch horror mental nightmare fuel train ride through his fracturing psyche with the Mnggal Mnggal* Emperor: "I want that work turned to slag. Kill it now ! I want every dreadnaught to converge on that cursed world and commence a Supreme Delta Zero. Every gun. Every missile. And every ordnance will pulverize that planet !!! Lord Vader will oversee this. Now go..." *Imperial Grand Admiral shaking* Grand Admiral: "It shall be done my lord ! I will rally the Dread Fleet at once."
Starweirds are still the spookiest thing to me. Just the thought of being in a small ship going through hyperspace and some fucked up skeleton thing just appears behind you.
What about abeloth, at least if you have the force or a forcefield you can have somewhat of a chance but with abeloth she will just kill you regardless of your power
The thing that creeps me out even more is the way "mnggal" is read in my langguage is as an abbreviation for the word "menggal/memenggal" which means to decapitate.
Mac Anderson yet I still see fanfics of people justifying the defeat of Warhammer 40k, one guy made a fic where a CIS ship gets stuck in the 40kuniverse and survives chaos encounters with just droids
I absolutely love the fact that the Mnggall-Mnggal is so Lovecraftian! It really gives a whole new perspective on the Star Wars Universe in my opinion, and It really disturbs me that this being inflicts such a terrible fate unto people who unfortunately come across it for pure enjoyment. It really sends shivers down my spine! :)
@@coralbricks People shitted on Waru and the Crystal Star but I absolutely loved it. The weirder to me, the better ! The Mggnal Mggnal is truly a being of fear, dread and delicious terror. Such a being that inflicts terror would make a great asset to The Dread Master 😏
@@Taboose7665 do you serious underestimate me that much? To put down a monster you use monster tactics some might say the death star was a horrible machine it is like a monster thus use the death star to blow it up. That is just one idea.
You know, that planet they come from is ringed with ancient and perhaps even precursor ships of unknown origin. And the ironic thing is, the only thing in the galaxy that I can think of which could purify that planet and the surrounding ring of treasure, would be the Defoliator. Which unfortunately for this case, was destroyed during the Clone Wars
Goroto Jr. Fuck thats a brilliant movie. . . I was so glad i came across the whole movie on youtube (plus TONS of other 80s/90s practical effects based horror)
Would it be morally unethical to destroy something such as the Mnggal Mnggal, it being completely horrific and disturbing as it is? Let me rephrase, would the Jedi see it as morally unethical?
You could say it is unethical to allow it continued existence seeing as the only thing it wants to do is eat you and mess with your mind while doing so. It doesn't matter whether or not it is technically a living being as it is just not compatible with the wants and desires of literally every other living thing the galaxy.
@@lolroflroflcakes the Mnggal Mnggal is like the creator and Eck said: it's a generally malevolent being but has a virus like drive to reproduce itself. Really like the Flood accept the Mnggal Mnggal never stated they want to conquer and absorb the very stars into their almost corporeal being. The Mnggal Mnggal is most likely a sentient life form from a different dimension that's been banished by its own kind as a torture to never being able to relate to anything ever again. Except the Mnggal Mnggal saw that after eons of just moaning and groaning about regrets it finally thought: *Wait !? I can own this bitch. Imma spread like flu season in the summer on these Solid Lifeforms* And since then whoever comes into contact with a Mnggal Mnggal is basically screwed because it believes it has the power and right to do whatever it pleases and in this case as an inter-dimensional being it awkwardly enjoys the occasional sentient rotting puppet act, collecting ancient lore, and dark humor 😥
@@lolroflroflcakes Yeah but it was created that way, wouldn't the Jedi be conflicted in destroying such a creature just for it doing what nature intended, well in this case, the force intended?
Would the Yuuzhan Vong survive the Mnggal Mnggal? Could the Mnggal Mnggal beat the flood? Could the Mnggal Mnggal, Yuuzhan Vong, the Flood, or God Emperor all separately on their own beat Abeloth?
Eckhart already did a video with the Mnggal Mnggal vs The Flood along with the Blackwing Virus, and if you have seen any of Eckharts other Flood Vs. Videos, you'll know who wins,
While I like them, I have the same complaints with them that I have with most other assimilators in sci fi. They’re a Grey Goo scenario with no real weaknesses that is somehow contained. I mean they’re super smart, all knowing, able to use technology, and can consume entire planets reproducing themselves. Their one weakness is fire which I’m pretty sure is a common weakness for organics. I’d like to see something about how they’re extremely susceptible to the force or their hive mind literally can’t grow too big or else it loses track of itself and begins to attack its own body. Lovecraft used the idea that attempts to resist are in the end futile against the old ones once they awake from their slumber. This one seems like it should’ve already destroyed the galaxy. I like their concept but they feel like they’re made of unobtainium.
Since this being comes from the tabletop rpg, I will use that as my source. If you go mechanically, it is dangerous (in large numbers) but not insurmountable. It has some damage reduction (if your familiar with 3.5 d&d stats, it's DR 5. Until its shield is overcome, a droideka has equivalent to 20.) It has higher than normal health, but not loads like say a Rancor. It can infect organics, but that takes hours. If you ignore infection (such as if it fought droids), its damage is pathetic (best attack does 1d6+4, Stormtrooper blaster does 3d8. Though it has decent chance to hit). It has Force Sensitivity, but no actual powers. Meaning it could roll for minor feats like sensing and minor telekinesis, but can never attack with it or boost itself. Now in a large scale engagement (not what the game is meant for), it would be a big threat to infantry but not so much to powerful characters or armoured vehicles. It would probably be hopeless vs the droid army. In space battles it has the advantage of being a hive mind (perfect coordination with each other) but the huge drawback of having no skill points in any piloting or operate naval weapons (meaning it can try, but it rolls with no bonuses. Comparatively I think TIE pilots are at like +8, but that's a tougher rule to find.). Also by stats, its intelligence is just human average.
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 So while they're dangerous in large numbers, they're manageable if you outgun them, have droids, or just have the ability to orbital bombard them. In other words, the perfect thing for a horror campaign.
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 thanks for the in depth! I don't have access to the ancient texts anymore so I couldn't find the stats. Those stats seem reasonable, the lore in Star Wars can quickly get out of control til someone slaps the writers.
@@RaeSyngKane Yeah I really liked some of Legends, such as KotOR 1 & 2, but I think overall canon is better off without crap like Abeloth and The Ones.
Two things, first of I would loooove it if the mnggal-mnggal were fleshed out more and featured in some sort of star wars medium, book or game or something. Secondly, it sorta pains me that they do seem very similar to the flood, and the reason this pains me is that I like star wars much more than halo, so I kind of wish star wars were "first", you know?
Now i want to see what that damn thing does if it's controlled by chaos from 40k, because that probably would be one of the most terryfing things one could think of...
shadow_phoenix 54 The SW universe should hope that it never runs into the 40K universe in a dark alley. The grim dark of the far future be truly scary.
@@beastmendelegate1946 But would the warp even have an effect on the star wars galaxy? I mean Star Wars as a galaxy is better at it's worst then Warhammer is at it's best when it comes to daily life of civilians and people in general. The only reason the warp has such an effect in 40k is because everyone is pretty much slaves or worked to death or dying or just living absolute miserable lives, in other words, negative emotions, without those emotions well everything in the warp goes poof and vanishes. Life isn't like that in the Star Wars universe even at the worst of times in galactic history everyone was happy then the best of times in warhammer.
@@Legionzzzz1 Heres the thing, the Chaos gods embody positive emotions too. Khorne also represents martial pride, bravery, and honor. Slaanesh represents both innocent and not-so-innocent forms of pleasure ranging from art and music to BDSM. Tzeentch represents knowledge and change in general. Hope, Ambition, and Progress included. Nurgle represents the circle of life, perseverance, and survival. Suffice to say, Star Wars has a lot of that.
Lets not forget about the geonosian mind control/zombifications with parasitic worms as well, those were JUST as scary- All in all, deep things like that and more are TERRIFYING...
The concept of the Mnggal-Mnggal seems to be inspired by real life theories surrounding “strange matter” or “strange quarks” in quantum physics. Strange matter is predicted to convert anything that comes in contact with it into the same material.
Stormtrooper TK-72 I mean, as a young man, Palpatine was supposedly rather handsome. But his love affair with Ysanne Isard (who was like 40 years younger) was pretty disturbing.
The Sun Crusher or the Galaxy Gun would likely be the best option outside of creating a localized Black Hole. A supernova would effectively sterilize the entire system and the chain nuclear reaction from the GG's projectile would convert all matter on the planet (including the planet) to energy.
Courier six The Death Star is clearly capable of detonating a planet at full power, but if it was just fired over a longer period of time at lower power, it could be used to boil the planet’s surface.
Your guest editor, Zack, did a pretty good job. At 4:35 when there's a scene from Shawn of the Dead (a brilliant and funny film that succeeds in making a zombie film into a comedy), the people in there are actually still human and not yet zombie. That opening scene in the film is brilliant, as the "normal" people are already acting like zombies. Interesting video, not too heavy for late night RUclips relaxation, given its about evil space zombies. In other words, good job Eck (and Zack for editing the video).
I think what makes the Mnggal-Mnggal so terrifying and disturbing is the fact they were separated behind the great hyperspace anomaly perhaps by the celestials themselves because they or it was such a threat to even them. What makes them/it even more intimidating is the fact no matter who you are in the star wars universe other than perhaps Abeloth nobody is safe from this creature if you come into contact with it, you become lunch almost immediately no matter how in touch in the force or how strong you are.
The Mnggal-mnggal and “the sickness” are so messed up and I love that stuff like that exist in the darkest corners of the galaxy. It’s sad neither have been explored in canon but I do get why they have not returned. Also, does anyone else feel like the two are eerily similar?
That sounds like my former boss. I get the feeling even when everything in the store goes right, he just randomly calls in people to his office because he is lonely.
the replicators would only reall be dangerous agasint a united star wars universe if they come in undedected and build up before attack in some unkown region cause thats billions and billions of ships with energy weapons bombarding them worst case scenario is the replicators find infinite empire tech absorbe it and then can now use the force and never need a power source but maybe if they did that they just give up because they could ascend threw the force which is what they wanted to do but couldnt because only organic things could ascend in the star gate universe unless you count ftl space but the replicators hated being there
I definitely appreciate the link you drew with Death Troopers and logically Red Harvest by extension. Definitely gives those two stories and the Imperial Blackwing project a bit more of a foundation within broader legends lore as opposed to being anomalies.
"I think the Mnggal Mnggal are the most disturbing thing in all of Star Wars." *He says while showing a close up of a woman in a leotard, boots and forearm gloves.*
"Uh excuse me, ever hear of Abelo-... Ok, refocus centerpoint station on their homeworld and get the suncrusher prepped and ready. Let's hope they aren't too many of them out in the universe already."
I'm not sure if something described as definitively evil would count as Lovecraftian as such, since the point is that such creatures ought to be unknowable and beyond the concepts of good and evil... But since such entities tend to end up seeming like evil from the POV of lesser races, I suppose the Mnggal-Mnggal do count. And agreed, eldritch horrors from beyond can definitely have a place even in the SW universe! ^-^ Makes for a nice change of pace when the petty squabbling of the galaxy's myriad factions is interrupted by a threat none of them can deal with or perchance even understand by themselves, requiring a temporary alliance between usually staunch enemies.
I used this being to run a horror game for our group and I also took a lot of insperation from Lovecraft. Everyone was scared at the end of the story which I enjoyed. I even took the time to describe it consuming people and it convenced one of the party help it spread itself.
I was fixing to comment "You know, this sounds like a very Lovecraftian creature" then you start making the connections and I'm like "YES I'M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE SHARES LOVE FOR COSMIC HORROR"
The Whisperer In Darkness Yeah, true. But they’re both an ooze based being and have very creepy and mysterious qualities to them. I’m still disappointed there wasn’t more about the skin of evil, it’s honestly one of my most favorite Star Trek episodes. I wish it showed up again somehow.
Hello Eckhart, do you know how the continuation of Death Troopers is called? I heard that the Vector crashed on Kashyyyk but that wasn’t in the book. Thanks, I enjoy your videos
In Star Wars Galaxies you can go to Dathomir where nightsisters infected with the terrible virus have attacked the Imperial Garrison stationed there. If I remember what I read, I think there might have also been a zombie rancor too ? Still, the overall star wars zombie mix is awesome
Came here to learn more about my second favourite thing, Star Wars. Was delighted to be treated to clips of my first favourite thing, Resident Evil. What a great time!
I’m actually really happy that you’ve made this video because I was trying to find a video on the Mnggal Mnggal and couldn’t find a comprehensive video dedicated solely to them. I’m glad this video got made, thank you. 😊
Welp, Alliance ships seem to have better shields and seem to have a slight edge when it comes with the versatility of their guns, a lot of them firing plasma, and the UNSC did suffer from the Covenant's heavy use of plasma But there's no way to tell how good the Alliance's shields would fair against UNSC MAC guns remember, Reapers don't fire lasers, they fire accelerated high-speed high-temerature high-density matter altough MACs are nowhere near as strong, the principle is the same. Alliance fighters are superior to anything in the UNSC arsenal, just as UNSC troops would stomp anything the Alliance might throw at them ... would be a pretty close matchup but consider this : Without access to the Mass Relays, The Alliance would get thoroughly FUCKED, because Slipspace is much better than Element Zero so, with prolonged conflict, over more and more battles, UNSC would figure out that if they use Hit&Run tactics they could slowly cripple the Alliance's fleet
@@mihailazar2487 I didn't think the alliance fired plasma, is that from andromeda? In the first 3 games pretty much all their ship weapons seemed to be mass driver tech. I agree that without the relays they're going to be handicapped. There is a pretty significant size discrepancy between the two factions. The Pillar of Autumn from the first game, for instance, was an outdated cruiser design. It was well over a kilometer long. The Dreadnought class ships of the alliance were barely that big. The alliance also only has 6 Dreadnoughts. I just dont think they could muster a large enough force to really compete with the resources of the unsc in a meaningful way in space. If it were a fleet battle between numerically similar forces they'd definitely be a lot closer though. But I think the Infinity by itself would would give a task force if alliance ships hell.
You're mis-pronouncing the name- it's actually the "Meow Meow" and they take the deceptive form of cute furry felines... waiting for the moment to strike. We. Are. Doomed. Pray. For. Death.
The most disturbing thing about the Mnggal-Mnggal is that whenever I, a german, try to speak this name, someone thinks I am suffocating and starts to Heimlich maneuver me.
They'd probably fuse and cause the the Flood spread and kill everyone vibe to tone down to just infecting people for "Shits and Giggles." Why does the Mnggal Mnggal do what it does ? Because it can and it's that simple 😓
The Flood can infect Artificial Intelligence and technology in general through the Logic Plague and the Flood can learn everything the host knows like skills. Additionally, the Flood is microscopic and airborne. It's no wonder it was able to destroy many galaxies (The Flood are the corrupted Precursors which colonized multiple galaxies). It took the destruction of all sentient life to starve the Flood.
@@bradmorales4002 It's a bio-weapon launched at the Earth millions of years before humans evolved taksed with eliminating it's biosphere. Have you heared of the Expanse series (both book and tv series)?
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I know the style is different, but there is NOTHING on this topic.
I love the freaky shit in Legends. I am so glad Lucasfilm decided to have freaky shit in Canon as well.
Speaking of which...
You should really do a video on freaky shit in Canon. Good examples that come to mind are the Ovanis creature and Ravna.
I love EckhartsLadder. They show so much stuff from all continuities of star wars yet remains unbiased somehow
When can you do the thing 82 vs the floor?
EckhartsLadder do a video about if a Star destroyed could survive a thing outbreak from the 1982 movie. Sort of like the xenomorph video.
The covenant vs the yuzzhan vong.
*[offtopic imagery]* (shows clip of Harrison Ford dressed up as a hot dog)
Idk about you but that's extremely on topic
@@maxzors8429 puts a spin on whole 'cosmic horror' thing XD
Dammit I thought it was Harrison Ford doing dog roleplay
I saw this comment before seeing the clip and thought you were just being funny. Nah, Harrison Ford was indeed dressed as hot dog.
When
Legends really had something for everyone; futuristic sci-fi, epic magical fantasy, horror...Disney canon is like 90% rebels vs stormtroopers, and it doesn't seem to be changing. :/
Add to the fact that legends had shown the "bad guys" perspective often and showed the "good guys" as evil. Disney usually just sticks to the concept that only one side is good and another is bad.
@@imperialofficerremusblackw8452 wich i don't like it to!
@@imperialofficerremusblackw8452 Tbf, the expanded material in canon does the same thing, especially in books. Even Rogue One showed the Rebellion as not being so squeaky clean. The rest of the Disney Star Wars films have been shite, though.
Well, there is a fungal infestation with force power taking cybernetics people as host to continue its crusade... But, yeah, for now, there are creating the foundations so they don't stray too far from what ovies shown us.
Watch Rise Of Skywalker , if you like legends then you should be pleased
This is why you have a death star
The death star was for yuuzahn vong forces
@@voicegonetohell5234 *Emperor has a eldritch horror mental nightmare fuel train ride through his fracturing psyche with the Mnggal Mnggal*
Emperor: "I want that work turned to slag. Kill it now ! I want every dreadnaught to converge on that cursed world and commence a Supreme Delta Zero. Every gun. Every missile. And every ordnance will pulverize that planet !!! Lord Vader will oversee this. Now go..."
*Imperial Grand Admiral shaking*
Grand Admiral: "It shall be done my lord ! I will rally the Dread Fleet at once."
No, this is is why you makes virus bombs.
This is why you have a Sun Crusher
Yeah but Is it fully operational??¿
The empire should have tested the Death Star on their planet.
And spread them all over?
@@zachcondel7116 yeah u have a point there
Suncrusher would probably be more effective.
@@RikkiTikkiTavi290 yep considering fire is there only weakness getting bathed in solar plasma from all sides from a supernova would kill it
@@zachcondel7116 not really, it instantaneously burns up the atmosphere on the surface of the planet so it's really unlikely.
It's the lack of appropriate number of vowels to pronounce the name easily, isn't it?
Even its own species' name is a nefarious plot of malicious intent, hell-bent on intergalactic mispronunciations!
Eh, more or less.
Clearly Lovecraft inspired
Consonants
@@colebrown8293 what's yo problem you fuckin prick
I had a trailer for Cats as my ad for this video. There's nothing in Star Wars that comes close to being that disturbing.
Starweirds are still the spookiest thing to me. Just the thought of being in a small ship going through hyperspace and some fucked up skeleton thing just appears behind you.
Caesari I agree. Plus, the fact that they spend who KNOWS how long just floating alone in the dark of space somehow makes it more terrifying
@@bobbybquick7511 that would be terrifying
Dude if I had to go through hyperspace knowing those things were out there I’d have a suicide pill kept and ready in my mouth at all times.
What about abeloth, at least if you have the force or a forcefield you can have somewhat of a chance but with abeloth she will just kill you regardless of your power
@@lorddinkdink8937 abeloth is like omnipotent in star wars.
Even said that the only being that could rivalize with her would be Full Potential Anakin
I love it when “kill it with fire!” is actually an appropriate response.
I read the thumbnail as the "wiggle wiggle" and was very confused
That's even more disturbing.
Me too
Space-Ferrets?
I read it as mingle-mingle.
My niggas can I get a UWU
The thing that creeps me out even more is the way "mnggal" is read in my langguage is as an abbreviation for the word "menggal/memenggal" which means to decapitate.
what language?
@@BekeroParyin indonesian
I keep hearing it as "The Now Now" which is the name of an album by the band Gorillaz. It kinda confused me when I figured out how it's pronounced.
Seperti kuyang
"Meme"nggal lol
Lol, every time I see the name, it reminds me of a Filipino vampire called Manananggal.
Yeah
I was wondering why the word reminded me of that (I'm not Filipino, but I've been doing research on "obscure" supernatural beings)
I thank thee
For me i automatically think "wtf are murlocs doing in starwars?"
That’s exactly what I thought too and I’m not Filipino.
Lmao I was looking for this comment 🇵🇭
"Rot God" *Nurgle listens, stiring his cauldron*
underrated but heretical comment
@@gubbikiller
Agreed. Complete heresy.
Burn in the fires of the imperium.
Ryan Sullivan ahhh yes if warhammer ever met Star Wars it would be very one sided
Mac Anderson yet I still see fanfics of people justifying the defeat of Warhammer 40k, one guy made a fic where a CIS ship gets stuck in the 40kuniverse and survives chaos encounters with just droids
I absolutely love the fact that the Mnggall-Mnggal is so Lovecraftian! It really gives a whole new perspective on the Star Wars Universe in my opinion, and It really disturbs me that this being inflicts such a terrible fate unto people who unfortunately come across it for pure enjoyment. It really sends shivers down my spine! :)
**insert generic "hurr durr, good that it's non canon, I want more of the same" comment**
I absolutely love the crazy Lovecraftian stuff from the old EU.
@@coralbricks Same. It's pretty awesome! :)
@@coralbricks People shitted on Waru and the Crystal Star but I absolutely loved it. The weirder to me, the better ! The Mggnal Mggnal is truly a being of fear, dread and delicious terror. Such a being that inflicts terror would make a great asset to The Dread Master 😏
I’m just glad something like that doesn’t really exist 😂
Forget kill it with fire...
Kill it with Thrawn!
He would probably also kill it with fire.
@@Taboose7665 Maybe, it's hard to figure out what he might do with them
Thrawn gonna die
Thrawn would probably try to get that planet thrown into a sun, probably the safest way to get rid of the Mnggal-Mnaggal.
@@Taboose7665 do you serious underestimate me that much? To put down a monster you use monster tactics some might say the death star was a horrible machine it is like a monster thus use the death star to blow it up. That is just one idea.
Gotta say, that video you made about the scariest things in star wars way back was probably one of my favorite vids from you
You know, that planet they come from is ringed with ancient and perhaps even precursor ships of unknown origin.
And the ironic thing is, the only thing in the galaxy that I can think of which could purify that planet and the surrounding ring of treasure, would be the Defoliator.
Which unfortunately for this case, was destroyed during the Clone Wars
Just nuke the damn parasite
Or you could just blow it up
Insert sun crusher or death star here
So they are basically the flesh that hates from the SCP universe
Well, that's a quite good way of describing it.
But in black lol
Almost.
I’d say the flood is closer to scp-610. The mnggal mnggal are closer to the movie “the stuff”
Goroto Jr. Fuck thats a brilliant movie. . . I was so glad i came across the whole movie on youtube (plus TONS of other 80s/90s practical effects based horror)
Would it be morally unethical to destroy something such as the Mnggal Mnggal, it being completely horrific and disturbing as it is?
Let me rephrase, would the Jedi see it as morally unethical?
You could say it is unethical to allow it continued existence seeing as the only thing it wants to do is eat you and mess with your mind while doing so.
It doesn't matter whether or not it is technically a living being as it is just not compatible with the wants and desires of literally every other living thing the galaxy.
@@lolroflroflcakes the Mnggal Mnggal is like the creator and Eck said: it's a generally malevolent being but has a virus like drive to reproduce itself. Really like the Flood accept the Mnggal Mnggal never stated they want to conquer and absorb the very stars into their almost corporeal being. The Mnggal Mnggal is most likely a sentient life form from a different dimension that's been banished by its own kind as a torture to never being able to relate to anything ever again. Except the Mnggal Mnggal saw that after eons of just moaning and groaning about regrets it finally thought:
*Wait !? I can own this bitch. Imma spread like flu season in the summer on these Solid Lifeforms*
And since then whoever comes into contact with a Mnggal Mnggal is basically screwed because it believes it has the power and right to do whatever it pleases and in this case as an inter-dimensional being it awkwardly enjoys the occasional sentient rotting puppet act, collecting ancient lore, and dark humor 😥
It's morally unethical to allow its continued existence.
@@lolroflroflcakes
Yeah but it was created that way, wouldn't the Jedi be conflicted in destroying such a creature just for it doing what nature intended, well in this case, the force intended?
@@necessaryevil9438 that's a great story concept for a new expansion in SWTOR or a novel for the two species
Would the Yuuzhan Vong survive the Mnggal Mnggal? Could the Mnggal Mnggal beat the flood? Could the Mnggal Mnggal, Yuuzhan Vong, the Flood, or God Emperor all separately on their own beat Abeloth?
Eckhart already did a video with the Mnggal Mnggal vs The Flood along with the Blackwing Virus, and if you have seen any of Eckharts other Flood Vs. Videos, you'll know who wins,
@@alaric_3015 I said "separately." Read the question carefully please.
@@itsyaboidaniel2919 Thanks
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These are important questions!
Ryan Johnson is the most disturbing thing in Star Wars
A feminist parasite!
Could it get any worse?
#ohsnap
@The Insufferable Insomniac Congrats, you broke my sarcasm meter.
Mggnal-Mggnal confirmed. I always thought his movements seemed a bit sluggish.
Kathleen Kennedy is up there with Ryan
While I like them, I have the same complaints with them that I have with most other assimilators in sci fi. They’re a Grey Goo scenario with no real weaknesses that is somehow contained. I mean they’re super smart, all knowing, able to use technology, and can consume entire planets reproducing themselves. Their one weakness is fire which I’m pretty sure is a common weakness for organics. I’d like to see something about how they’re extremely susceptible to the force or their hive mind literally can’t grow too big or else it loses track of itself and begins to attack its own body. Lovecraft used the idea that attempts to resist are in the end futile against the old ones once they awake from their slumber. This one seems like it should’ve already destroyed the galaxy. I like their concept but they feel like they’re made of unobtainium.
Since this being comes from the tabletop rpg, I will use that as my source. If you go mechanically, it is dangerous (in large numbers) but not insurmountable. It has some damage reduction (if your familiar with 3.5 d&d stats, it's DR 5. Until its shield is overcome, a droideka has equivalent to 20.) It has higher than normal health, but not loads like say a Rancor. It can infect organics, but that takes hours.
If you ignore infection (such as if it fought droids), its damage is pathetic (best attack does 1d6+4, Stormtrooper blaster does 3d8. Though it has decent chance to hit). It has Force Sensitivity, but no actual powers. Meaning it could roll for minor feats like sensing and minor telekinesis, but can never attack with it or boost itself.
Now in a large scale engagement (not what the game is meant for), it would be a big threat to infantry but not so much to powerful characters or armoured vehicles. It would probably be hopeless vs the droid army. In space battles it has the advantage of being a hive mind (perfect coordination with each other) but the huge drawback of having no skill points in any piloting or operate naval weapons (meaning it can try, but it rolls with no bonuses. Comparatively I think TIE pilots are at like +8, but that's a tougher rule to find.). Also by stats, its intelligence is just human average.
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 So while they're dangerous in large numbers, they're manageable if you outgun them, have droids, or just have the ability to orbital bombard them.
In other words, the perfect thing for a horror campaign.
@@ZKP314So maybe the emperor was right to build the death star.
@@thewhispererindarkness9117 thanks for the in depth! I don't have access to the ancient texts anymore so I couldn't find the stats. Those stats seem reasonable, the lore in Star Wars can quickly get out of control til someone slaps the writers.
@@RaeSyngKane Yeah I really liked some of Legends, such as KotOR 1 & 2, but I think overall canon is better off without crap like Abeloth and The Ones.
Mugg fallow: exists
Me: *this planet stands in the way of the great journey burn its surface into nothing but glass*
A single spore can infect an entire species!
@@serlistogiette4168 If it wasn't for the Arbiter, I would have destroyed the whole planet
@@JuniusHalsey were it so easy...
Two things, first of I would loooove it if the mnggal-mnggal were fleshed out more and featured in some sort of star wars medium, book or game or something.
Secondly, it sorta pains me that they do seem very similar to the flood, and the reason this pains me is that I like star wars much more than halo, so I kind of wish star wars were "first", you know?
Star wars and all this came out before halo... By decades.. :/
@@D1j1tleShr4pnl Did the mnggal-mnggal really come before halo?
@@kanskejonasidag1 the roleplaying tabletop game that they were first introduced came out in the year 2000
The Vang came first which inspired the flood.
@@D1j1tleShr4pnl Halo CE was in development in 1999
Now i want to see what that damn thing does if it's controlled by chaos from 40k, because that probably would be one of the most terryfing things one could think of...
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The SW universe should hope that it never runs into the 40K universe in a dark alley. The grim dark of the far future be truly scary.
Pretty much everything from Warhammer 40k would be terrific for star wars.
Like tyranids?
@@beastmendelegate1946 But would the warp even have an effect on the star wars galaxy? I mean Star Wars as a galaxy is better at it's worst then Warhammer is at it's best when it comes to daily life of civilians and people in general.
The only reason the warp has such an effect in 40k is because everyone is pretty much slaves or worked to death or dying or just living absolute miserable lives, in other words, negative emotions, without those emotions well everything in the warp goes poof and vanishes.
Life isn't like that in the Star Wars universe even at the worst of times in galactic history everyone was happy then the best of times in warhammer.
@@Legionzzzz1 Heres the thing, the Chaos gods embody positive emotions too.
Khorne also represents martial pride, bravery, and honor.
Slaanesh represents both innocent and not-so-innocent forms of pleasure ranging from art and music to BDSM.
Tzeentch represents knowledge and change in general. Hope, Ambition, and Progress included.
Nurgle represents the circle of life, perseverance, and survival.
Suffice to say, Star Wars has a lot of that.
I loved it when SW would add crazy terrifying shit to the outer rim. It just makes the galaxy way more interesting and deadly.
Lets not forget about the geonosian mind control/zombifications with parasitic worms as well, those were JUST as scary-
All in all, deep things like that and more are TERRIFYING...
So they're basically the lovechild of the Thing, the Body Snatchers and the Shoggoths. Oh am I gonna sleep well tonight 🙃
The ocean thing about it reminds me about the changlings from star trek. Minis the hallowing people out and turning them into husk.
The concept of the Mnggal-Mnggal seems to be inspired by real life theories surrounding “strange matter” or “strange quarks” in quantum physics. Strange matter is predicted to convert anything that comes in contact with it into the same material.
I thought the most disturbing thing in legends is palapitine’s singing
I see that and raise you palpatine allegedly having kids with a few women. Enjoy that mental image.
Casual Linguistics, Now that image is stuck in my head
@@spooky3409 Palpatine:
"Oh yes ! The dark side comes !!! Uuuggghhh !!!"
*Emperor nuts lightning bolts and fries partner's insides*
Stormtrooper TK-72 I mean, as a young man, Palpatine was supposedly rather handsome. But his love affair with Ysanne Isard (who was like 40 years younger) was pretty disturbing.
L0L L0L L7L, true, but you should hear him sing.
I guess one thing even Thrawn would sign on using Deathstar on...
@HaloLoreNerd
How would you be able to burn an entire planet? I'm hearing talk about a sun crusher so I presume it has something to do with that.
@HaloLoreNerd
It's basically don't let anything leave the planet and procede to bombard the planet into molten slag.
@HaloLoreNerd
If one ship escapes then the entire bombardment only partially eradicated the problem.
The Sun Crusher or the Galaxy Gun would likely be the best option outside of creating a localized Black Hole. A supernova would effectively sterilize the entire system and the chain nuclear reaction from the GG's projectile would convert all matter on the planet (including the planet) to energy.
Courier six The Death Star is clearly capable of detonating a planet at full power, but if it was just fired over a longer period of time at lower power, it could be used to boil the planet’s surface.
The Flood equivalent in the Star Wars universe, huh? We'll see about that. Someone get me a Halo Ring
The tyranids comes to devour everything .NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM ....
We have the Death Star
The thing
The Thing
@@stunner9005 The Death Star can only kill a single planet at a time. A Halo array can wipe out an entire galaxy at once.
Text: mŋgɑl-mŋgɑl
Speaker: “nɛl-nɛl”
Covenant CAS Assault Carrier vs First Order Resurgent Class Star Destroyer (6th try)
CAS, every time, no contest.
Yeah; Resurgent is not gonna be able to tank that glassing beam
Your guest editor, Zack, did a pretty good job.
At 4:35 when there's a scene from Shawn of the Dead (a brilliant and funny film that succeeds in making a zombie film into a comedy), the people in there are actually still human and not yet zombie. That opening scene in the film is brilliant, as the "normal" people are already acting like zombies.
Interesting video, not too heavy for late night RUclips relaxation, given its about evil space zombies. In other words, good job Eck (and Zack for editing the video).
I think what makes the Mnggal-Mnggal so terrifying and disturbing is the fact they were separated behind the great hyperspace anomaly perhaps by the celestials themselves because they or it was such a threat to even them. What makes them/it even more intimidating is the fact no matter who you are in the star wars universe other than perhaps Abeloth nobody is safe from this creature if you come into contact with it, you become lunch almost immediately no matter how in touch in the force or how strong you are.
Nonsense. Palpatine could easily burn it with lightning or conjure up fire. Unless he doesn't know the person is the bring and is taken by surprise
@@Andromedon777 yea and luke closed a black hole so
Its the Star Wars equivalent of John Carpenter's the Thing
Unfortunately if it wasn't in a video game or a cartoon in the last twenty or so years it won't be much known around here.
The Mnggal-mnggal and “the sickness” are so messed up and I love that stuff like that exist in the darkest corners of the galaxy. It’s sad neither have been explored in canon but I do get why they have not returned. Also, does anyone else feel like the two are eerily similar?
I love these more obscure and weird parts of legends. Please keep doing stuff like this!!
Best Mass Production mechs:
UN Spacey( SDF Macross)
Earth Federation( UC Gundam)
The Clans( Battletech)
Terran Dominion( StarCraft).
The Astartes (Warhammer 40k)
Knightmares (code geass)
Chicken walkers (galactic empire)
What about robo tech
I like the touch of Lovecraftian horror, it broadens an already massive universe.
You’re videos are amazing!
Your*
First time I've ever seen "you're" used wrong.
Jacky Chang thanks for pointing that out
That sounds like my former boss.
I get the feeling even when everything in the store goes right, he just randomly calls in people to his office because he is lonely.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (398th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
Indeed, you won't
NEVER GIVE UP
So it seems
the replicators would only reall be dangerous agasint a united star wars universe if they come in undedected and build up before attack in some unkown region cause thats billions and billions of ships with energy weapons bombarding them worst case scenario is the replicators find infinite empire tech absorbe it and then can now use the force and never need a power source but maybe if they did that they just give up because they could ascend threw the force which is what they wanted to do but couldnt because only organic things could ascend in the star gate universe unless you count ftl space but the replicators hated being there
I also like the theory that the unknown region hyperspace anomaly was put there intentionally to keep the mnggal mnggal out
Nobody:
Not a soul:
Star Wars Names: *Mnggal-Mnggal*
Now I desperately want a part two of five most disturbing things in the star wars universe
Zach forgot the dog 🐶
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." We are Mnggal-Mnggal...
I definitely appreciate the link you drew with Death Troopers and logically Red Harvest by extension. Definitely gives those two stories and the Imperial Blackwing project a bit more of a foundation within broader legends lore as opposed to being anomalies.
"I think the Mnggal Mnggal are the most disturbing thing in all of Star Wars."
*He says while showing a close up of a woman in a leotard, boots and forearm gloves.*
I woke up to a decent mood, saw you uploaded, and clicked without thinking it through, and now my morning is ruined. Thanks again
Sounds like the Flood from halo and I’m surprised you didn’t mention that
The Thing
I love stuff like this in my opinion it WHATS makes Star Wars even more amazing, thank you two for the vid have a great day!
Basically a cross between Venom and the Flood, just weaker, much weaker than both
And add in Ridley’s intelligence and love of murder
@@lepurpleboi3266 wouldn't you say that either the Flood or Venom already has a love of murder (depending on which type of Venom you use)?
Thank You Eck. I love this stuff about Star Wars and the way you do it. This made my day.
These aliens truly remind me of that black gooey substance from the movie Prometheus that created the xenomorphs
black goo pathogen
Don't remind us of that shit movie.
@@Lawliet31101979 your opinion
"Uh excuse me, ever hear of Abelo-... Ok, refocus centerpoint station on their homeworld and get the suncrusher prepped and ready. Let's hope they aren't too many of them out in the universe already."
Well gee it's the SW equivalent of the Flood.
5:47 BROTHER. GET THE HEAVY FLAMER.
Im confused.. theres celestials in star wars who shaped the universe? Threw me off because of the guardians of the galaxy blip
Imagine how terrifying this would be if it showed up in the movies... I really do hope that they bring more Legends stuff into the main canon
I'm not sure if something described as definitively evil would count as Lovecraftian as such, since the point is that such creatures ought to be unknowable and beyond the concepts of good and evil... But since such entities tend to end up seeming like evil from the POV of lesser races, I suppose the Mnggal-Mnggal do count. And agreed, eldritch horrors from beyond can definitely have a place even in the SW universe! ^-^ Makes for a nice change of pace when the petty squabbling of the galaxy's myriad factions is interrupted by a threat none of them can deal with or perchance even understand by themselves, requiring a temporary alliance between usually staunch enemies.
I used this being to run a horror game for our group and I also took a lot of insperation from Lovecraft. Everyone was scared at the end of the story which I enjoyed. I even took the time to describe it consuming people and it convenced one of the party help it spread itself.
Nothing a good Exterminatus can't fix.
I was fixing to comment "You know, this sounds like a very Lovecraftian creature" then you start making the connections and I'm like "YES I'M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE SHARES LOVE FOR COSMIC HORROR"
This actually reminds me a lot of the Skin of Evil from Star Trek the Next Generation.
I hadn't considered that. Sort of, but it spreads and doesn't have the other's powers.
The Whisperer In Darkness
Yeah, true. But they’re both an ooze based being and have very creepy and mysterious qualities to them. I’m still disappointed there wasn’t more about the skin of evil, it’s honestly one of my most favorite Star Trek episodes. I wish it showed up again somehow.
@@JurassicPhilosoraptor Yeah. Possibly both taking inspiration from Shoggoths in Call of Cthulhu.
Dude i love your channel and I thought I was subbed this whole time. I learn more and more about star wars eveytime I watch. Keep it up man
Hello Eckhart, do you know how the continuation of Death Troopers is called? I heard that the Vector crashed on Kashyyyk but that wasn’t in the book. Thanks, I enjoy your videos
In Star Wars Galaxies you can go to Dathomir where nightsisters infected with the terrible virus have attacked the Imperial Garrison stationed there. If I remember what I read, I think there might have also been a zombie rancor too ? Still, the overall star wars zombie mix is awesome
So basically offbrand version of "The Thing", except less gruesome and bloody
Well that was sufficiently disturbing. Great video though haha
Honestly I adore stuff like this.
Maybe the Empire had good reasons when they built the Death Star...
I love the idea of something granting you ultimate knowledge with the trade-off of losing your sense of self and mind
Nice Vid.
I love how the art for the thumbnail is a MTG card (bloodhall ooze)
I thought the most disturbing thing in Star Wars was 'The Last Jedi'
Came here to learn more about my second favourite thing, Star Wars. Was delighted to be treated to clips of my first favourite thing, Resident Evil. What a great time!
A drop of water went into my eye the moment you said the Mnggal-Mnggal infects things through a drop of water.
Welp. Guess we'll die.
I’m actually really happy that you’ve made this video because I was trying to find a video on the Mnggal Mnggal and couldn’t find a comprehensive video dedicated solely to them. I’m glad this video got made, thank you. 😊
UNSC vs the Alliance from Mass Effect
I feel like the unsc could beat some serious alliance ass in space, but would get owned pretty bad on the ground.
Welp, Alliance ships seem to have better shields and seem to have a slight edge when it comes with the versatility of their guns, a lot of them firing plasma, and the UNSC did suffer from the Covenant's heavy use of plasma
But there's no way to tell how good the Alliance's shields would fair against UNSC MAC guns
remember, Reapers don't fire lasers, they fire accelerated high-speed high-temerature high-density matter
altough MACs are nowhere near as strong, the principle is the same.
Alliance fighters are superior to anything in the UNSC arsenal, just as UNSC troops would stomp anything the Alliance might throw at them ... would be a pretty close matchup but consider this :
Without access to the Mass Relays, The Alliance would get thoroughly FUCKED, because Slipspace is much better than Element Zero
so, with prolonged conflict, over more and more battles, UNSC would figure out that if they use Hit&Run tactics they could slowly cripple the Alliance's fleet
@@mihailazar2487 I didn't think the alliance fired plasma, is that from andromeda? In the first 3 games pretty much all their ship weapons seemed to be mass driver tech. I agree that without the relays they're going to be handicapped. There is a pretty significant size discrepancy between the two factions. The Pillar of Autumn from the first game, for instance, was an outdated cruiser design. It was well over a kilometer long. The Dreadnought class ships of the alliance were barely that big. The alliance also only has 6 Dreadnoughts. I just dont think they could muster a large enough force to really compete with the resources of the unsc in a meaningful way in space. If it were a fleet battle between numerically similar forces they'd definitely be a lot closer though. But I think the Infinity by itself would would give a task force if alliance ships hell.
UNSC in space
Alliance on the ground though it would be even.
"so mggnal-mggnal whats your hobby"
"we like collecting spaceships!"
"thats... pretty tame for what you are"
They aren’t nearly as disturbing as the flood but yes, very disturbing indeed.
The Thing
Damn. They make Carnage look like a new born puppy.
You're mis-pronouncing the name- it's actually the "Meow Meow" and they take the deceptive form of cute furry felines... waiting for the moment to strike.
We. Are. Doomed.
Pray. For. Death.
Hahhahhaahah. . . JP, this comment was retarded.
Lol, the mighty empire was also defeated partially by cute fat teddy Bears
The most disturbing thing about the Mnggal-Mnggal is that whenever I, a german, try to speak this name, someone thinks I am suffocating and starts to Heimlich maneuver me.
Lol wtf
Isn't this the monster from the 1982 movie "The Thing"?
One of the best horror movies ever
@@AnnatarCarvour Hell yea it is
Essentially, yes it is.
" I know you've all been through alot but if you find the time I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH "
Ah, the good ol' "make mothers witness their children come back as zombies" form of entertainment.. truly a timeless classic!
Isn't _The Crystal Star_ best known for being _god-awful?_
Covenant with their glassing beam: *it looks like a job for me*
And this is why the empire built the death star people. Wait did I just stumble on a new theory?
Rory O'Brien it was actually the yuuzhan vong
Rory O'Brien This, the Yuuzhan Vong and the fact that old Palps has an inferiority complex.
Yes! I was waiting for you to do a video on this!
0:21 didn’t know you were Canadian lol
I finished reading this comment right as he said "aboot" and almost spat out my water.
The chill wave song in this video is so damn calm, very good choice
#AskEck Do you think the Mnggal-Mnggal could defeat the flood?
They'd probably fuse and cause the the Flood spread and kill everyone vibe to tone down to just infecting people for "Shits and Giggles." Why does the Mnggal Mnggal do what it does ? Because it can and it's that simple 😓
The Flood can infect Artificial Intelligence and technology in general through the Logic Plague and the Flood can learn everything the host knows like skills. Additionally, the Flood is microscopic and airborne. It's no wonder it was able to destroy many galaxies (The Flood are the corrupted Precursors which colonized multiple galaxies). It took the destruction of all sentient life to starve the Flood.
I don't know what are these things but your videos make my every morning epic
So its venom
Venom preserves his host and actually merges with it to make one whole being, this thing just straight eats up you
Please, do MORE videos about such "stranger things" from Legends!
So a star wars version of the protomolecule
What's the protomolecule?
@@bradmorales4002 It's a bio-weapon launched at the Earth millions of years before humans evolved taksed with eliminating it's biosphere. Have you heared of the Expanse series (both book and tv series)?
@@warwolf3005 wasn't that a series from the SYFY channel?
@@bradmorales4002 Yes, it's based on a briliant book series called "the Expanse", written by James S.A. Corey
@@warwolf3005 never heard of those books.