I ALWAYS advise to NOT get a teaching DEGREE. If they REALLY want to teach, I tell them to get the degree in another area and only do teaching as their minor. Too many closed doors outside of teacher when potential employer sees my degree.
Well my alternative is making 10$ an hour and living with my parents. So glad I followed my passions in college to basically become a loser who had to move back home because nobody will hire you if you don't have experience and you can't get experience without getting hired
I once was two thirds through an interview when a department head looked at at the superintendent and said "I don't think we can afford this guy." I sat there kind of stunned and was debating whether or not to stand up and just walk out. I had traveled 400 miles out of state on my own dime for that interview. Little did I know they were only willing to offer 42k/yr. Which would have been a massive pay cut for me. And no, on that salary I couldn't have afforded to live in district either. The 1,200 sq ft starter homes in that area were going for $550,000. You would have thought that wages would have kept up with inflation or they could have at least let me know their top end before I took one of my only three allotted days off to drive 800 miles round trip.
While I - mostly! - enjoyed working with my students and a lot of my colleagues over my 39 year teaching career, I ended up feeling that the bureaucracy abused their employees’ willingness to go “above and beyond”, turning it into an expectation.
Yeah that’s almost every job nowadays. That’s why bare minimum effort is so common, because it has no consequences and there’s rarely a reward to doing your best; unless you consider a larger workload and higher expectations without accommodating pay a reward
@@trentswag9324 too true! The “best” teachers were always given MORE challenging students and expected to manage higher workloads. In Australia our summer break is over Christmas - around 5 weeks in total - and I recall going into work on 26th December once and ringing security to let them know I’d turned the alarm off and it wasn’t faulty. I figured going in then was unusual, but was told that some teachers even go in on Christmas Day! We NEVER stop - and we should!
This. 😂 I was expecting this. This is why I left teaching. I am a professional with a masters as are most teachers and yet we won't ever be respected as such. I just can't live in that world. It's not for me. I want my time and knowledge to be valued rather than taken for granted. That's really what happens with teaching.
I hated teaching. It sucked out my soul and spat me out and I don't have the right education to do anything else. I wish they had me do my student teaching my second semester so I didn't waste my time
Coming into my 40th year in the educational field... still remember my 5th grader in the advanced class breaking down and crying out "why won't he shut up ?" By that one student who was advanced but a total behavior problem... there because of inclusion smh
I still wanna give it a shot. I want to make a difference in a kids life. My partner makes enough to support me having a lower wage, so thats my privilege in all this. I've always loved working with teens, and I want to support them, make them feel less alone. I dont want any child to feel alone, especially delinquents. If teaching sucks, I'll move on to therapy. Maybe social work. Idk.
Teaching isn't a good career if you want a living wage, rather than barely a few cents away from being under minimum wage. I wish I was joking, but no I've met teachers who worked in special classes (the kind of classes that have the particularly violent kindergarteners). One of them specifically, let's call her Ms. L for simplicity and privacy on her part, has to work multiple other jobs just to afford rent. The things teachers do I will never understand, I mean... you get a degree or three in college, you find a district who's willing to take you in, and then treated worse than dirt by everyone else on planet earth... makes me wonder how some people still want to be teachers, I mean I won't stop them, but I do wonder... are they okay?
I would honestly love to change my career and become a teacher, but I'm unwilling for a multitude of very obvious reasons. It would be such a bad deal in a multitude of ways. The only draw card would be the feeling of the call, but all the downsides tell me No. Very sad about it.
Last time I taught was over 20 years ago. I laugh and recall all these situations talked about. Unfortunately, it sounds like the teaching situation hasn’t improved at all 😢
Me too! I teach piano lessons now one kid at a time. However, I cannot believe how badly behaved some are. And some are so severely challenged. I just don’t know what to do with them. But I’m trying my best.
had a english teacher that commuted from san louis Obispo to venice. like 4 hours each way. one time we had a sub because her car burnt down. anyway that's the day I learned I didn't want to be a teacher.
So I've been trying to think of an excuse for why teachers are paid so poorly. What I came to is that they make the pay so low to find the people who truly care. Who would make a better teacher? The selfless or the selfish? But at the end of the day, they deserve way more.
They do deserve better. I just never understood why teachers weren't afforded the same respect as other professions requiring a degree, certification, and professional development hours to maintain that certification.
No, the reason for low pay is that teaching was once a mostly female profession, and a teacher's income was thought of as supplementary to a household. Well, that and the fact America is extremely anti-intellectual and doesn't value learning. We prefer to wallow in ignorance.
I personally feel it’s because it’s a female-dominated profession and always has been. And you know what’s sad? Because of the horrendous lack of pay, we are losing incredibly intelligent and insightful people to other professions that actually pay people. Which is fine and all, but then some of the people left to become teachers aren’t necessarily the most brilliant in their fields. And I say that as a teacher myself. Or, if a person is truly brilliant and decides to become a teacher, they go work at private schools where quality of life is better and kids in public schools never get access to that kind of intellect. That all being said, being a teacher requires more than just intellect and content knowledge. You do truly have to have a heart for it and for the kids, especially in public schools. I just don’t feel like it’s right that people who have knowledge and passion for learning to share should feel precluded from doing it because of the stress and lack of compensation for that stress.
@@sarah_noodle Any recommendations for someone who sees teaching as an only viable option but doesnt want to get caught up in the issues facing the profession today? Like, alternative career paths?
When I was a a student, I thought teaching would be fun. Luckily, I learnt very quickly what the work conditions are. Today I'm an engineer and still have a bit of a knack for teaching, I just let it out when people actually ask me to introduce them to a topic.
I taught in public schools for 32 years, English-Literature and ESOL. I settled into my last school my last 29 years. Some years behaviorly it was a grade of a C, some years a D. The job gave me all I could handle. I'm male. I got better at teaching, but, yes, it keeps you on your toes. It is an honorable profession but its working conditions have worsened, probably starting in the 1960s. You just get in and depends on the school you're assigned to, rhe type kids, the administration. Things seem tough, try to hang on. I don't believe in child-centered education. Oh sure, I want the best for the students, but I believe in subject-centered. As a teacher, you must believe in and love your subject so much in order to help the students. I actually got in trouble when I explained this to fellow teachers. 😂 You will find teachers will have differing philosophies about teaching. Now get this. True story. My first day of teaching, my first year, bell rings to begin the school year. Here come the high-school students. The first seconds they walk into my class several laugh and say to me, "Hey! Look here! A new teacher! We're going to get you fired!" First seconds! And they proceeded to do just that. They did a number on some parents that I was horrible and unfair. I determined never to show anger to the parents. Try calmly to reason with them. It helped, somewhat. I struggled with all kinds of things. Had to learn by trail and error. My last five years, I was something of a master at teaching and controlling the classes. On my retirement, lots of kids were crying. Go figure. It's God's work. It's a Holy War!
The wise experienced teachers know best, they are at liberty to be honest. Based on my experience the only kind of people who seem completely chipper about being teachers are aspiring teachers who think about teaching in a fantastical way and don't want to hear anything to the contrary. I will put it this way, unless someone has had some sort of divine revelation from Jesus, they better rethink their decision!
I started teaching 26 years ago, left it 3 times for a 4 year total and bad health forced me to early retire for disability 3 years ago at age 44. I used to be against tenure but once I finally got it in the right place full time a principal left and the replaced was a schmuck and the faculty became schmucks dragging students and families in with them. I don’t recommend teaching.
I feel like most often the problem is that a large amount of the people don’t have a good concept of pedagogy: the art and science of of teaching, of being able to share complex and nuanced ideas in ways that are accessible and understandable! And unfortunately a lot of these people who do t understand that there are skills and tools necessary to effectively teach, and key players in the community to promoting quality education. For me what was most informative of this was when my wife was working for a nearby charter school, whose board was composed of 3 community members, 3 parents, and 3 teachers. The idea was to be a teacher led school, because teachers would have the best insight into the needs of the students. Teachers were responsible for the administrative tasks as well. How this turned out was the board would always ignore the insights offered by the teachers. Teachers don’t need work days, or continuing education. Teachers don’t need job security, or an established plan to carry out the administrative duties. The schools does t need a working elevator… etc. The worst was my wife tried to help with them opening a second school, one closer to our hometown, where I lived at the time. The community member of the board involved with this was an older gentleman who always knows best and doesn’t have to listen to anyone. He hired a contractor who would definitely complete the project appropriately because they had a gentleman’s agreement. They needed to worry about the advertising and logo etc. They completely ignored my wife who thought they should make sure the building is ready for students and that the school has all the licenses needed to operate a school completed. Now, a week before opening, having students planning to attend, and multiple faculty members moved in from out of state, they come to find they don’t have bathrooms yet in the building, and don’t have the necessary legal documentation to run a school. But they have a logo😂. My wife is now out of that mess of a school: after they tried not to pay the teachers. It took the schools lawyer about 5 minutes to review the situation and tell the board, no you have to pay the teachers what you contractually said you would pay them. I cannot believe that school is still running.
I love my district and my students (we do have that one ...), but I absolutely can't afford to buy a house there and rentals are super hard to find. There are rentals reserved for teachers, but only if they are new and for no more than 3 years. Which is why most teachers leave after year 3.🤔😒
Or…you are the veteran teacher at a younger age because everyone has either died, retired, or quit and you now get the hellion class because you have so far lasted in the Hunger Games. THAT, my dear, is the current status of teaching in America. What will they throw at you next?!?
Been a teacher for 9 years. Thinking how this isn't sustainable and will probably change careers in the next 5 years. I actively discourage people from this field. If you want a family, pick a career that allows you to maintain your mental and physical health because education ain't it.
Teaching sucks!! I die everyday thinking that teaching is the only thing I am capable of because unfortunately I have no skill set but speaking English as a second language.
Never understood why people do it you after buying supplies for class you barely make enough to survive you would honestly be better off just working in a factory
Teachers whine by far about their jobs more than any other professional. I’m so sick of listening to teachers whine about their low pay and every other thing that they have to deal with. Every profession has its ups and downs the difference is not every profession has good benefits, and tons of time off like teaching. I am an educated person, but I have almost 0 benefits at my job and get five paid vacation days off a year I make good money but I have zero benefits for the most part. I don’t go around, whining to everybody who will listen about it I just had a teacher sitting in my chair today complaining that she wants to retire because she doesn’t have enough time to travel because during the summer she’s busy going to doctors appointments. Like are you serious right now ,you get off 2 1/2 months in the summer, a week off at thanksgiving, two weeks at Christmas, one week off in the spring and you’re complaining? You don’t work nights or weekends unless you’re grading papers like get over yourselves all jobs have some aspect that people don’t care for and as far as money the pay is of public knowledge, why didn’t you look at that before you got into the profession? Both my parents were teachers back in the day but they never complained like this new generation. They were VERY BLUNT about why they became teachers, they liked the time off and benefits , no whining, just work..
Yeah but children and parents have changed. You are much more likely to get blamed for everything. No parental support when discipline is needed, admin also doesn’t discipline them. Students are rude and entitled just like their parents. You’re trying to teach a lesson with constant interruptions such IEPs, phone calls, students talking/whistling, staff meetings, e-mails, schedule changes. These can all happen within the same class period. It’s mentally draining! Not to mention you need to prep them for another state test or “walkthrough” from the admin or leadership team. I used to think like you too. I worked in an office, I laid flooring, worked at a gym, etc. Teaching is BY FAR the most tiring job I’ve ever had. It will literally drain your soul. I went to school for 6 years because I thought “It couldn’t be as bad as they say, I think they just complain a lot”. No bro, shit’s real and it’s why there is a massive teacher shortage.
Your ignorance is beyond baffling. I have had to work Summer School every year. In order to get extra income I had to work another job which I also had to quit because my workload was so out of control and neverending after being tossed into a whole other classroom in October. I’m 8 years deep in Special Education with kids that destroy classrooms and give people serious injuries. I also have multiple support staff in the classroom that are supposed to be there to support the student behaviors so everyone stays on track. But they manipulate the situation by flaking or coming in late and also have the same astounding arrogance you displayed in this comment as if I’m not putting in enough work. Meanwhile I’m not having restful sleep and actually have to put in several extra hours additionally to get things planned out and data collected for students. We’re talking the school day is 7:45-3:15 teachers are required to be there. However to keep my job afloat and stay fighting an uphill battle I am there 6:30 am sometimes as late as 9:30 pm at night because of so much. Oh and let’s not forget the fact I thought I received a huge pay increase after my Masters only for that increase to go towards union protection in case something goes left. Then on top of that I’m lucky to squeeze in my lunch comfortably because my students display behaviors of leaving the classroom destroying property aggression and what not. I feel as though I can’t miss a single day. Then you have the support staff in the room who call out that have the nerve to act disrespectful like I just magically got this job. So yeah every job is tough but would you want to come do my job?
We need better unions. That's what it should be. Alone we struggle, together me negotiate. We are struggling right now. And this is NOT just with teachers, but for the students as well, including the ones who misbehave due to bad home life. They deserve a solid system to set them on the right path. Its just heartbreaking all around. Why doesn't anyone care?
Even as a child it was obvious that most teachers only teach because they have a useless degree or theyre some form of failed artist, because who would go through extra education just to end up bullying kids for basically minimum wage
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I can't in good conscience, recommend teaching as a profession to anyone.
Me, neither.
Yup. It’s really hard. And really stressful.
Same!
I ALWAYS advise to NOT get a teaching DEGREE. If they REALLY want to teach, I tell them to get the degree in another area and only do teaching as their minor. Too many closed doors outside of teacher when potential employer sees my degree.
Well my alternative is making 10$ an hour and living with my parents. So glad I followed my passions in college to basically become a loser who had to move back home because nobody will hire you if you don't have experience and you can't get experience without getting hired
I once was two thirds through an interview when a department head looked at at the superintendent and said "I don't think we can afford this guy." I sat there kind of stunned and was debating whether or not to stand up and just walk out. I had traveled 400 miles out of state on my own dime for that interview. Little did I know they were only willing to offer 42k/yr. Which would have been a massive pay cut for me. And no, on that salary I couldn't have afforded to live in district either. The 1,200 sq ft starter homes in that area were going for $550,000. You would have thought that wages would have kept up with inflation or they could have at least let me know their top end before I took one of my only three allotted days off to drive 800 miles round trip.
Been there. Sorry.
While I - mostly! - enjoyed working with my students and a lot of my colleagues over my 39 year teaching career, I ended up feeling that the bureaucracy abused their employees’ willingness to go “above and beyond”, turning it into an expectation.
Well said!
Yeah that’s almost every job nowadays. That’s why bare minimum effort is so common, because it has no consequences and there’s rarely a reward to doing your best; unless you consider a larger workload and higher expectations without accommodating pay a reward
@@trentswag9324 too true! The “best” teachers were always given MORE challenging students and expected to manage higher workloads.
In Australia our summer break is over Christmas - around 5 weeks in total - and I recall going into work on 26th December once and ringing security to let them know I’d turned the alarm off and it wasn’t faulty.
I figured going in then was unusual, but was told that some teachers even go in on Christmas Day!
We NEVER stop - and we should!
I was expecting you to say the good students are going to turn around and make double your salary working half the hours
This. 😂 I was expecting this. This is why I left teaching. I am a professional with a masters as are most teachers and yet we won't ever be respected as such. I just can't live in that world. It's not for me. I want my time and knowledge to be valued rather than taken for granted. That's really what happens with teaching.
I hated teaching. It sucked out my soul and spat me out and I don't have the right education to do anything else. I wish they had me do my student teaching my second semester so I didn't waste my time
Love your posts. I’m not a teacher but my wife is. The humor helps me get a bit more of a window in what she’s gotta deal with.
Coming into my 40th year in the educational field... still remember my 5th grader in the advanced class breaking down and crying out "why won't he shut up ?" By that one student who was advanced but a total behavior problem... there because of inclusion smh
That is the worst thing to happen to schools
Yes! 💔
The system is flawed and it keeps amazing, passionate people from sharing their talents. It does a disservice to everyone.
I still wanna give it a shot. I want to make a difference in a kids life. My partner makes enough to support me having a lower wage, so thats my privilege in all this. I've always loved working with teens, and I want to support them, make them feel less alone. I dont want any child to feel alone, especially delinquents. If teaching sucks, I'll move on to therapy. Maybe social work. Idk.
Teaching has been ruined by outside influences…
I tried to go back and a single 12 year old boy made the entire otherwise awesome experience not worth it.
It’s always the kid with the mullet.
this. Just, exactly this.
Wow. This whole time I thought I just had a bad attitude
Thank you for the validation brother!
That is weirdly accurate In a moment I was not expecting it. Truth kick to the face. 😉
Teaching isn't a good career if you want a living wage, rather than barely a few cents away from being under minimum wage.
I wish I was joking, but no I've met teachers who worked in special classes (the kind of classes that have the particularly violent kindergarteners). One of them specifically, let's call her Ms. L for simplicity and privacy on her part, has to work multiple other jobs just to afford rent.
The things teachers do I will never understand, I mean... you get a degree or three in college, you find a district who's willing to take you in, and then treated worse than dirt by everyone else on planet earth... makes me wonder how some people still want to be teachers, I mean I won't stop them, but I do wonder... are they okay?
You speak the truth!
I would honestly love to change my career and become a teacher, but I'm unwilling for a multitude of very obvious reasons. It would be such a bad deal in a multitude of ways. The only draw card would be the feeling of the call, but all the downsides tell me No. Very sad about it.
Last time I taught was over 20 years ago. I laugh and recall all these situations talked about. Unfortunately, it sounds like the teaching situation hasn’t improved at all 😢
Me too! I teach piano lessons now one kid at a time. However, I cannot believe how badly behaved some are. And some are so severely challenged. I just don’t know what to do with them. But I’m trying my best.
I really wanted to become a teacher, but I’m also *very* thankful for the internet letting me know how awful the pay is. Going for architecture now
My commute is 50mins... You are a magic man, how do you know me so well
had a english teacher that commuted from san louis Obispo to venice. like 4 hours each way. one time we had a sub because her car burnt down. anyway that's the day I learned I didn't want to be a teacher.
So I've been trying to think of an excuse for why teachers are paid so poorly. What I came to is that they make the pay so low to find the people who truly care. Who would make a better teacher? The selfless or the selfish? But at the end of the day, they deserve way more.
They make it that low because they don’t want to fund public schools.
They do deserve better. I just never understood why teachers weren't afforded the same respect as other professions requiring a degree, certification, and professional development hours to maintain that certification.
No, the reason for low pay is that teaching was once a mostly female profession, and a teacher's income was thought of as supplementary to a household. Well, that and the fact America is extremely anti-intellectual and doesn't value learning. We prefer to wallow in ignorance.
I personally feel it’s because it’s a female-dominated profession and always has been. And you know what’s sad? Because of the horrendous lack of pay, we are losing incredibly intelligent and insightful people to other professions that actually pay people. Which is fine and all, but then some of the people left to become teachers aren’t necessarily the most brilliant in their fields. And I say that as a teacher myself. Or, if a person is truly brilliant and decides to become a teacher, they go work at private schools where quality of life is better and kids in public schools never get access to that kind of intellect. That all being said, being a teacher requires more than just intellect and content knowledge. You do truly have to have a heart for it and for the kids, especially in public schools. I just don’t feel like it’s right that people who have knowledge and passion for learning to share should feel precluded from doing it because of the stress and lack of compensation for that stress.
@@sarah_noodle Any recommendations for someone who sees teaching as an only viable option but doesnt want to get caught up in the issues facing the profession today? Like, alternative career paths?
I don’t you understand how there are any teachers in America. It seems like the worst job to have there
When I was a a student, I thought teaching would be fun. Luckily, I learnt very quickly what the work conditions are.
Today I'm an engineer and still have a bit of a knack for teaching, I just let it out when people actually ask me to introduce them to a topic.
I taught in public schools for 32 years, English-Literature and ESOL. I settled into my last school my last 29 years. Some years behaviorly it was a grade of a C, some years a D. The job gave me all I could handle. I'm male. I got better at teaching, but, yes, it keeps you on your toes. It is an honorable profession but its working conditions have worsened, probably starting in the 1960s. You just get in and depends on the school you're assigned to, rhe type kids, the administration. Things seem tough, try to hang on. I don't believe in child-centered education. Oh sure, I want the best for the students, but I believe in subject-centered. As a teacher, you must believe in and love your subject so much in order to help the students. I actually got in trouble when I explained this to fellow teachers. 😂 You will find teachers will have differing philosophies about teaching. Now get this. True story. My first day of teaching, my first year, bell rings to begin the school year. Here come the high-school students. The first seconds they walk into my class several laugh and say to me, "Hey! Look here! A new teacher! We're going to get you fired!" First seconds! And they proceeded to do just that. They did a number on some parents that I was horrible and unfair. I determined never to show anger to the parents. Try calmly to reason with them. It helped, somewhat. I struggled with all kinds of things. Had to learn by trail and error. My last five years, I was something of a master at teaching and controlling the classes. On my retirement, lots of kids were crying. Go figure. It's God's work. It's a Holy War!
So right on, absolutely.
The wise experienced teachers know best, they are at liberty to be honest.
Based on my experience the only kind of people who seem completely chipper about being teachers are aspiring teachers who think about teaching in a fantastical way and don't want to hear anything to the contrary.
I will put it this way, unless someone has had some sort of divine revelation from Jesus, they better rethink their decision!
I started teaching 26 years ago, left it 3 times for a 4 year total and bad health forced me to early retire for disability 3 years ago at age 44. I used to be against tenure but once I finally got it in the right place full time a principal left and the replaced was a schmuck and the faculty became schmucks dragging students and families in with them. I don’t recommend teaching.
The best jokes are funny by not being funny at all ;(
GREAT!
I feel like most often the problem is that a large amount of the people don’t have a good concept of pedagogy: the art and science of of teaching, of being able to share complex and nuanced ideas in ways that are accessible and understandable! And unfortunately a lot of these people who do t understand that there are skills and tools necessary to effectively teach, and key players in the community to promoting quality education.
For me what was most informative of this was when my wife was working for a nearby charter school, whose board was composed of 3 community members, 3 parents, and 3 teachers. The idea was to be a teacher led school, because teachers would have the best insight into the needs of the students. Teachers were responsible for the administrative tasks as well. How this turned out was the board would always ignore the insights offered by the teachers. Teachers don’t need work days, or continuing education. Teachers don’t need job security, or an established plan to carry out the administrative duties. The schools does t need a working elevator… etc.
The worst was my wife tried to help with them opening a second school, one closer to our hometown, where I lived at the time. The community member of the board involved with this was an older gentleman who always knows best and doesn’t have to listen to anyone. He hired a contractor who would definitely complete the project appropriately because they had a gentleman’s agreement. They needed to worry about the advertising and logo etc. They completely ignored my wife who thought they should make sure the building is ready for students and that the school has all the licenses needed to operate a school completed. Now, a week before opening, having students planning to attend, and multiple faculty members moved in from out of state, they come to find they don’t have bathrooms yet in the building, and don’t have the necessary legal documentation to run a school. But they have a logo😂.
My wife is now out of that mess of a school: after they tried not to pay the teachers. It took the schools lawyer about 5 minutes to review the situation and tell the board, no you have to pay the teachers what you contractually said you would pay them.
I cannot believe that school is still running.
I love my district and my students (we do have that one ...), but I absolutely can't afford to buy a house there and rentals are super hard to find. There are rentals reserved for teachers, but only if they are new and for no more than 3 years. Which is why most teachers leave after year 3.🤔😒
Teaching is a great career choice if you do not need that income. I have known a few such lucky people.
You are so right! 🤣
All so true.
Or…you are the veteran teacher at a younger age because everyone has either died, retired, or quit and you now get the hellion class because you have so far lasted in the Hunger Games. THAT, my dear, is the current status of teaching in America. What will they throw at you next?!?
Been a teacher for 9 years. Thinking how this isn't sustainable and will probably change careers in the next 5 years. I actively discourage people from this field. If you want a family, pick a career that allows you to maintain your mental and physical health because education ain't it.
Teaching isn't a career choice. It's a choice of no career.
People, just DO NOT enter teaching 😂😂😂😂
Truth.
Teachers don't get paid enough
Professing seems like a better deal.
Lmao...all truths.
This is 1000% accurate
What is better a private or public school for teaching??
Probably private
Ha ha the three bad students per class actually! This is all true
I used to want to be a teacher. Then I remembered how it was to be a student.
Yes
Teaching sucks!!
I die everyday thinking that teaching is the only thing I am capable of because unfortunately I have no skill set but speaking English as a second language.
Toxic career choice😢
So only high cost of living areas have the "good districts?" 🤔
Good news, bad news
Awwww. 😒
But yeah... in a nutshell
😂😂
Why not just sat that it’s a bad career choice?
Never understood why people do it you after buying supplies for class you barely make enough to survive you would honestly be better off just working in a factory
Teachers whine by far about their jobs more than any other professional. I’m so sick of listening to teachers whine about their low pay and every other thing that they have to deal with. Every profession has its ups and downs the difference is not every profession has good benefits, and tons of time off like teaching. I am an educated person, but I have almost 0 benefits at my job and get five paid vacation days off a year I make good money but I have zero benefits for the most part. I don’t go around, whining to everybody who will listen about it I just had a teacher sitting in my chair today complaining that she wants to retire because she doesn’t have enough time to travel because during the summer she’s busy going to doctors appointments. Like are you serious right now ,you get off 2 1/2 months in the summer, a week off at thanksgiving, two weeks at Christmas, one week off in the spring and you’re complaining? You don’t work nights or weekends unless you’re grading papers like get over yourselves all jobs have some aspect that people don’t care for and as far as money the pay is of public knowledge, why didn’t you look at that before you got into the profession? Both my parents were teachers back in the day but they never complained like this new generation. They were VERY BLUNT about why they became teachers, they liked the time off and benefits , no whining, just work..
Yeah but children and parents have changed. You are much more likely to get blamed for everything. No parental support when discipline is needed, admin also doesn’t discipline them. Students are rude and entitled just like their parents. You’re trying to teach a lesson with constant interruptions such IEPs, phone calls, students talking/whistling, staff meetings, e-mails, schedule changes. These can all happen within the same class period. It’s mentally draining! Not to mention you need to prep them for another state test or “walkthrough” from the admin or leadership team. I used to think like you too. I worked in an office, I laid flooring, worked at a gym, etc. Teaching is BY FAR the most tiring job I’ve ever had. It will literally drain your soul. I went to school for 6 years because I thought “It couldn’t be as bad as they say, I think they just complain a lot”. No bro, shit’s real and it’s why there is a massive teacher shortage.
Your ignorance is beyond baffling. I have had to work Summer School every year. In order to get extra income I had to work another job which I also had to quit because my workload was so out of control and neverending after being tossed into a whole other classroom in October. I’m 8 years deep in Special Education with kids that destroy classrooms and give people serious injuries. I also have multiple support staff in the classroom that are supposed to be there to support the student behaviors so everyone stays on track. But they manipulate the situation by flaking or coming in late and also have the same astounding arrogance you displayed in this comment as if I’m not putting in enough work. Meanwhile I’m not having restful sleep and actually have to put in several extra hours additionally to get things planned out and data collected for students. We’re talking the school day is 7:45-3:15 teachers are required to be there. However to keep my job afloat and stay fighting an uphill battle I am there 6:30 am sometimes as late as 9:30 pm at night because of so much.
Oh and let’s not forget the fact I thought I received a huge pay increase after my Masters only for that increase to go towards union protection in case something goes left. Then on top of that I’m lucky to squeeze in my lunch comfortably because my students display behaviors of leaving the classroom destroying property aggression and what not. I feel as though I can’t miss a single day. Then you have the support staff in the room who call out that have the nerve to act disrespectful like I just magically got this job.
So yeah every job is tough but would you want to come do my job?
@@Styliesinceninedeuce no I was smart enough to look into what teachers made and listened to all the complainers and decided it was NOT FOR ME.
We need better unions. That's what it should be. Alone we struggle, together me negotiate. We are struggling right now. And this is NOT just with teachers, but for the students as well, including the ones who misbehave due to bad home life. They deserve a solid system to set them on the right path.
Its just heartbreaking all around. Why doesn't anyone care?
@@heyfella5217 read 2 Timothy 3 1-5 and you will find your answer as to what no one seems to care.
hahaha yes it's true. Young people, please don't become teachers.
Even as a child it was obvious that most teachers only teach because they have a useless degree or theyre some form of failed artist, because who would go through extra education just to end up bullying kids for basically minimum wage