A big part of affliction warlocks dmg comes from shadow bolts still, so no, you can't have less hit unless you want to suck. It's good to put points into +hit for affliction spells early on when you won't be hit capped any way, but in no way would you ever keep being uncapped for hit later on if you have the option to cap.
I don’t play on private servers, and my memory could be wrong, but I recall that you start the rotation with a trinket macro on Shadowbolt to try and proc shadow weaving ( along with your trinket) before you apply DoTs.
Affliction hit rating needs to be the same as destro , shadow bolt is still the main big dmg of this spec regardless of how strong your dots are, and is not affected by suppression talent
Immolate in my opinion is still good to cast especially if you have a fire mage in raid. If you're really wanting to increase dps I personally suggest it. If you have reliable healers and also know when to life tap you should be fine mana wise.
Hey, man. Are you playing on the official server? Do you have the opportunity to check the effect of the +95 spd ring Band of the Eternal Saga from the spells of the affliction branch?
I will be going affliction because in tbc it probably is the most diverse caster im the game. More buttons to hit is more entertaining than spamming 1-2buttons for max dps.
I feel like snapshotting COA at the beginning of the trinket would be a loss of DPS. Ideally you time it so your previous COA runs out as your trinket buff is about to fall off, then snapshot. Have you tested this at all, Meta?
I mean if he is affliction he will never do CoA in raid anyway, snapshotting in the beginning of the trinket isn’t too bad but tbh it dipends if it’s already up or not, because never want to refresh CoA before it ends since it does most dmg in the end, so this a very timing specific case
You go aff for shadow embrace and malediction. You go to ruin with this build. You are a support. This debuff limit thing people are talking about is moot. First of all, you dont need that many extra slots in the first place. Second its no limit in tbc classic.
For PvP: Tankiness and self healing CC Very few ways for other players to avoid DoT damage and very little self healing for other dps classes Consistent damage not requiring hard casts
aoe packs => cycle with tab targeting and cast seeds on multiple mobs. regular 3-4 mob packs in raids => first coe main dps target, then put corruption on all targets.
The best rotation for AoE is too early on spam curse of elements on mobs while tank builds aggro, then spam seed. Curse of elements will "outdps" any other curse in 25-man. If you're on a 5-man or something just spam curse of agony then seed.
@@MiceDnP i mean those are the main classes that ppl play. And horde are overhelming with belf paladins. Thats sad in some way. Butt still cant wait TBC again!
@@huppupappa1637 not true. If you’d talk about pve and add druids, then i’d agree. But if we count in pvp- then all the classes that you mentioned except locks and a rarely seen good hunters do not scale high in arena. Here the rogues, priests, warriors and mages come in 🙂 Me myself wanting to play holy pala in pve, but i’m afraid of not being able to get a spot because of pala overdose- specially in horde side 😬
@@MiceDnP that overdose yes. Overall most played ClassRace combo is Belf paladin. Never understand why. Maybe i do Belf paladin this time. Ditch my orc lock and tauren dudu. Maybe its hard to play anyways when portal is open. 10x layers gonna be enough?
I know that you brought it up, but I will just ask to make things clear - Is the destro better dps in PRE RAID BIS then affliction ? Are u able to get close to the hit cap ? Thanks for responding.
@@TheSabakuna Affliction is never the de facto spec. Crafted gear is so powerful that fire destruction is better than affliction from the very start of tbc.
I am asking because I want to rush either shadoweave or spellfire set right from the get go. So far I did not get an exact information about what is going to be the stronger spec - Fire destro if fire mage in group, destro if SP in group.
As far as I remember, u had a haste cap to have an extra tic on your dots and that made the affl lock BiS, even over pure shadow bolt locks, but that built came late into the expac, on par with sunwell.
@MetaGoblin. There, be no more using 2 old trinket xD. Private Server should have permanent Skull of Guldan & The Hexx Shuriken Head ZA 5th witch doctor
SL/SL is great in Arena but pro warlocks go into 2s with unstable affliction and a 30/0/21 priest which means the enemy team has to constantly LOS your hard cast burns and drains while having dots they cant dispell. Rank 1 unstable felhunter silence priest silence shadow weaving (obviously undead warlock to inner focus a extra dot) lock goes engie+mining for the extra 2k HP as they are squishy AF in affliction, also your priest is very squishy so the goggles are a MUST for both and so is Felhunter, you CANNOT get open up on, yeah you have 2 instant cast AOE fears thats regardless itll get trinket)
"What made affliction locks so good" Nothing. Their dps was and continues to be terrible. Imp CoE and Shadow Embrace are the ONLY reason a competent guild will bring an Affliction lock.
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A big part of affliction warlocks dmg comes from shadow bolts still, so no, you can't have less hit unless you want to suck.
It's good to put points into +hit for affliction spells early on when you won't be hit capped any way, but in no way would you ever keep being uncapped for hit later on if you have the option to cap.
Especially in the second spec I mentioned where the only affliction DPS spell you use is corruption.
İf i remember correct the epic crafted tailor gear improved your hit rating so you wont have to worry about it at the prebis part.
The biggest dps buff to affliction was the debuff limit increase
I don’t play on private servers, and my memory could be wrong, but I recall that you start the rotation with a trinket macro on Shadowbolt to try and proc shadow weaving ( along with your trinket) before you apply DoTs.
Affliction hit rating needs to be the same as destro , shadow bolt is still the main big dmg of this spec regardless of how strong your dots are, and is not affected by suppression talent
I played as affliction in tbc most fun I have had with a character going to play the same in tbcc
Immolate in my opinion is still good to cast especially if you have a fire mage in raid. If you're really wanting to increase dps I personally suggest it. If you have reliable healers and also know when to life tap you should be fine mana wise.
1:33 to byla ta ryba!!:D
Hey, man. Are you playing on the official server? Do you have the opportunity to check the effect of the +95 spd ring Band of the Eternal Saga from the spells of the affliction branch?
dang would have loved to see some stuff about affliction pvp, I remember it being a ton of fun
Sl/sl was love
Shadow weaving goes down from 15% to 10% in TBC. But shadow priest get Misery for 5% more spell damage for the raid.
Really enjoying you content! 💚
what is the addon called , the left purple circle
I will be going affliction because in tbc it probably is the most diverse caster im the game. More buttons to hit is more entertaining than spamming 1-2buttons for max dps.
Enjoy never being invited to a group. Affliction is trash
@@Abysia A good guild will always want atleast 1 affliction spec warlock for the debuffs it brings though.
12:40 wasted talent point on health funnel. Only needed 1 point in it.
I feel like snapshotting COA at the beginning of the trinket would be a loss of DPS. Ideally you time it so your previous COA runs out as your trinket buff is about to fall off, then snapshot. Have you tested this at all, Meta?
I mean if he is affliction he will never do CoA in raid anyway, snapshotting in the beginning of the trinket isn’t too bad but tbh it dipends if it’s already up or not, because never want to refresh CoA before it ends since it does most dmg in the end, so this a very timing specific case
You go aff for shadow embrace and malediction. You go to ruin with this build. You are a support. This debuff limit thing people are talking about is moot. First of all, you dont need that many extra slots in the first place. Second its no limit in tbc classic.
For PvP:
Tankiness and self healing
CC
Very few ways for other players to avoid DoT damage and very little self healing for other dps classes
Consistent damage not requiring hard casts
Great video. But every tbc lock guide ive saw skipps on the aoe rotation. Do i multidot, do i only spam seed?
Best question i’ve seen. Usually people only explain basics in guide- this is the stuff we really want to know!
aoe packs => cycle with tab targeting and cast seeds on multiple mobs. regular 3-4 mob packs in raids => first coe main dps target, then put corruption on all targets.
spam seed
The best rotation for AoE is too early on spam curse of elements on mobs while tank builds aggro, then spam seed. Curse of elements will "outdps" any other curse in 25-man. If you're on a 5-man or something just spam curse of agony then seed.
I did some good damage on Illhoof with seed of corruption IIRC
Seed of corruption all day
PLS give me your Addons and HUD it looks so good
Look up ElvUI and Necrosis I believe. That appears to be a majority of what you're seeing.
Can't wait to experience the power of TBC warlock!
Only locks, Hunters and paladins in TBC. Maybe few shamans. And few rogues in arena.
@@huppupappa1637 wtf?
@@MiceDnP i mean those are the main classes that ppl play. And horde are overhelming with belf paladins. Thats sad in some way. Butt still cant wait TBC again!
@@huppupappa1637 not true. If you’d talk about pve and add druids, then i’d agree. But if we count in pvp- then all the classes that you mentioned except locks and a rarely seen good hunters do not scale high in arena. Here the rogues, priests, warriors and mages come in 🙂
Me myself wanting to play holy pala in pve, but i’m afraid of not being able to get a spot because of pala overdose- specially in horde side 😬
@@MiceDnP that overdose yes. Overall most played ClassRace combo is Belf paladin. Never understand why. Maybe i do Belf paladin this time. Ditch my orc lock and tauren dudu. Maybe its hard to play anyways when portal is open. 10x layers gonna be enough?
I know that you brought it up, but I will just ask to make things clear - Is the destro better dps in PRE RAID BIS then affliction ? Are u able to get close to the hit cap ? Thanks for responding.
I just heard that it is good to start as affliction and that he is actualy better dmg then destro in pre-raid
@@TheSabakuna Affliction is never the de facto spec. Crafted gear is so powerful that fire destruction is better than affliction from the very start of tbc.
You can get close to hit cap (98% chance to hit) in pre-raid gear so honestly not really.
@@MetaGoblin So the meta for dmg is fire destro or destro ?
I am asking because I want to rush either shadoweave or spellfire set right from the get go. So far I did not get an exact information about what is going to be the stronger spec - Fire destro if fire mage in group, destro if SP in group.
As far as I remember, u had a haste cap to have an extra tic on your dots and that made the affl lock BiS, even over pure shadow bolt locks, but that built came late into the expac, on par with sunwell.
That can’t be real, except it was Wotlk prepatch, because in TBC hots and dots didn’t scale with haste at all
@@Stutzi152 aha, yeh, you are most likely right, thats why I said I remembered it very late in the xpac, prolly close to WotLK launch
@@Quankhi1 Ye I read that, didn’t want to bash or anything, but it has to be the wotlk prepatch what in my opinion isn’t part of tbc anymore :)
@@Stutzi152 hehe, yeh, I remember pugging BT and MJ with the new skills and talents after the prepatch, it was that easy 😂👍
@MetaGoblin. There, be no more using 2 old trinket xD. Private Server should have permanent Skull of Guldan & The Hexx Shuriken Head ZA 5th witch doctor
Tbc classic has not even come out yet, and metagoblin talking in past tense already
agreed it just sounds weird
TBC released in 2007
@@markbay9275 Look at the video title
@@Permuh The title says TBC Classic, not TBC.
@@misantrope6267 now look at the release date of the video
Where are subtitles?
Can someone (hopefully MetaGoblin) help me get that same lower middle health bar/casting bar. Not sure if its Weakauras or not. I would love that.
Addon called quartz for the cast bar
Dots can’t crit means affliction lock can’t be a max DPS
I played affli in tbc (real one) and it was my fav spec... kinda shame dots don't crit
Man what is that fizzling sound in the background. Unwatchable man
Why is affliction so good in tbc?
It is like… semi viable in tier 4, as in like so your demo locks can gear uo
not enough debuff slots for affi locks, go destro for raids.
Hey.
SL / SL
SL/SL is great in Arena but pro warlocks go into 2s with unstable affliction and a 30/0/21 priest which means the enemy team has to constantly LOS your hard cast burns and drains while having dots they cant dispell.
Rank 1 unstable
felhunter silence
priest silence
shadow weaving
(obviously undead warlock to inner focus a extra dot)
lock goes engie+mining for the extra 2k HP as they are squishy AF in affliction, also your priest is very squishy so the goggles are a MUST for both and so is Felhunter, you CANNOT get open up on, yeah you have 2 instant cast AOE fears thats regardless itll get trinket)
Let’s go! First
it isn't that good :D
"What made affliction locks so good" Nothing. Their dps was and continues to be terrible. Imp CoE and Shadow Embrace are the ONLY reason a competent guild will bring an Affliction lock.
this comment didn't age well :l. AFF pumps