To be fair you can literally see the weight pulling down arms and aim whenever it happens. Lighter weapon has the advantage, easier to aim but just as deadly. I doubt a lowly infantry man from that period would be that much stronger.
A well made battle axe is usually substantially lighter than most people would assume. Some surviving Dane axes were forged so thin that the blades have corroded straight through in the center. Matt Easton at scholagladiatoria has a great video about it.
@@Darmani2MB you wouldnt see the guys heart flyin out thats for sure. Just reaching the heart would be a tough challenge as a real ribcage can take massive ammounts of force before it would crack. In conclusion there would be more blood but a lot less tissue flyin through the air
Awwwww, the sportsmanship exhibited in this episode is really refreshing. I really like the head judge a lot he's really good at breaking bad news to people who have worked extremely hard and are awaiting a potentially huge payoff.
This is so much better when the weapons are both of high quality. When it's this close though I wish they should a little more of the deliberation process from the judges.
series ideas: FIF: Champion (episode winner) FIF: Grand Champion (winner of the entire season) FIF: Grand Master Champion (winner between multiple seasons)
@@jackohearts9108 so light it rolls? that really doesn't even make sense...once you have a grip on something it doesn't just roll in your hands because its to light...
@@ziggie16 it's less rolling in the hand then deflecting of a target, it happens when hitting a rounded target or if there's not enough momentum to carry it through. The lighter a weapon the less power and momentum.
@@jackohearts9108 yea i understand the last part of what you said but if you watch the video the blade is at a off angle before its hitting. at 5:15 you can even see after he hit it doug instinctively moved his hand back to the right spot to have the blade indexed properly
If we are discussing momentum, then it is important to understand the definition of momentum: mv, where m = mass and v = velocity. You are correct in stating that having less mass reduces momentum; however, velocity is as significant a factor. It should be quite clear that to accelerate an object of lesser mass at the same rate as an object with greater mass requires less force, so this implies that if the same force was used for each weapon, then the acceleration must have been greater for the weapon of lesser mass. Thus, the velocity of the weapon with lesser mass was greater prior to impact, which varies directly with momentum as stated above. Assuming by power you are referring to energy, then the statement that the weapon with greater mass had more energy is slightly flawed. In the aforementioned, I argued how the velocity of the weapon with less mass is greater with the same amount of force applied. Because kinetic energy is defined as mv^2, we see that velocity has a greater contribution to the value of energy, relative to momentum. So, the energy involved would be considerably greater for the weapon with less mass. I believe your intuition was leading you in the right direction. You will probably want to explore the concept of inertia, because that would be a more "correct" avenue to explore.
Anyone else thinks that when they say "it's not what you do to the object, but what the object does to your weapon" I say who cares, I want to see the object get destroyed?
@@Brackinforgeandhomestead You still made a powerful blade in 23 hours; no small accomplishment. You should make a video about what it was like being on the show!
@@jack1234473 Only partly true. If they perform the same in tests it comes down to craftsmanship. If two blades perform exactly the same wouldn't you rather have the blade with finer craftsmanship? I know I would. Anyone can make something that kills. True craftsman set themselves apart by making something deadly appear beautiful without sacrificing functionality.
@@jack1234473 Very untrue, weapons in history were very often made to show status and wealth and would be made to look very nice with interesting shapes and gold inlays and all that, a well crafted weapon is both effective and good looking. not trying to say the other axe didn't look nice but the winner's one looked a bit better, besides it was lighter in weight so easier to use.
I objectively object with their decision. Keaton's axe was lighter, yes, but that also leads to more deflections... and it wasn't as sharp as the other guy's during the tube-cut, as evidenced by the one tube that got hung and pulled out of place. But eh... I'm not the guy that dishes out the prize money, so o well.
This always happens. One person has amazing luck and everything goes well and then the other person has terrible luck and still manages to turn in a great weapon. Props to these smiths.
One of the best episodes in a long time, interesting pieces and a fun one to watch. Always impressive when the woodpole handles endure the strength test.
for me Logan should have been the winner! Keith's kono twists during the swings because its too light. yes its sharp but look at the slo-mos it hits the targets twisting before it lands. Good thing its sharp, coz it would have slid on the target's surface and injured the wielder's arm, or someone else.
In every case , when the weapon is lighter, and still holds it's sharpness, plus there's no warp, or broken handle its as always a winner, I know when there is a artistic flare too, it's as perfect as can be perfect , the judges had a difficult time making a decision on this one or maybe not. One thing for sure, both was winners today. In real life, when in battle for a hour or more, when your opponents is wearing armour, whether its raw hide or brass or both how well these weapons will last, I believe the test should last longer. That will separate the men from the boys . Remember battles back in the day always last longer.
The reason for having the sharpness last, is that the blades need to endure the strength. If they still are sharp after that, it shows the craftsmanship
I think the orders perfect. The kill test is basically a gimme round to showcase the weapon. The strength test pushes it's limits and then the sharpness test shows if after all that the weapon can still perform top notch.
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This was expandebals....
I like you video's
Next time a dutch weapon please?
I want sub
It will keal
That was an awesome experience! Thank you to everyone at Forged ❤️
You did great Keaton!
Well done fella.. That Ono you made was absolutely gorgeous..
Good job man lots of talent
You made a beautiful Ono bruh congrates!
Yeah. It was a truly beautiful piece of craftsmanship.
Doug is hands down the best judge on the show. He always appreciates each blade and is optimistic when testing the weapons.
Yesss him and ben
@@taualphanu2920 I like that Ben was a competitor and they brought him on as a judge
and now he is in the Latin American version of forged in fire too ...they're exporting him
And I like his style as well
doug is a trained swords man and martial arts thats how he got the part
Heart: *gets ripped out*
Doug: hehe squish squish
You can almost hear him thinking, "Kali maa. Kali maa. Kali maa shakti dae."
Mortal Combat: Fatality!
@@jrm48220 What is that
@@imthkng1224 it is from Indian Jones temple of doom where the one guy rips the heart out.
@@hockeycheck1224 Ohhh ok
As long as their axe is better than that “Oh yes” joke, then they are winners in my book.
Ono, the joke didn't land, somebody is definitely getting the axe tomorrow
Was half expecting them to use a kool aid jug for a test. Ono, oh no, oh yeah!
this is the fabled axe that destroyed the beatles
The way it’s edited, they give no time to recover from such a punny line.
I agreed with Devin.. For the 1st joke is funny.
2nd is..kinda.
3rd is boring
4th is... Im out..
A judge gets injured,
Douge: It’s fine, it will HEEL
Not bad
Doug - the Ghost of Tsushima
😂😂😂
Mind blowned
Poisons and slaughters the whole camp with a tango knife “it will keel”
Except he's Philipino
The Japanese Ono. Named after the last words of its victims.
🤣
Ono reverse card
Lol
🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅🤣😂😅
😂💀
When a judge folds about the weight it’s over for you.
To be fair you can literally see the weight pulling down arms and aim whenever it happens.
Lighter weapon has the advantage, easier to aim but just as deadly.
I doubt a lowly infantry man from that period would be that much stronger.
I think Jay is just weaker than the other judges. He's the one that usually complains first and loudest about weight.
Unless the weapon of your competitor breaks, or gets damaged more or cuts less.
@@garrettfuchs2164 finishing product also matter not just the weight. You can see crafting on Keith Ono .
@@Xerxes1688 one guy won even tho his weapon didn't cut at all just because his opponent's weapon was heavier
5:10 Can we talk about how awesome that trail of fake blood from the axe was?! It was like art!
It look like a anime when they swing there sword with blood on it
Forged in fire is actually just a ultra realistic anime
@@marblemarble7113 cool same for awe me
This was one of the closest challenges ever
it was close. Keaton Was a great smith to forge against and now He's a great Friend!
One was lighter and performed just as good.
I wish they would have included the reason they picked one blade over the other in this one. Personally I really like the first blade my self.
@@judgedredd2039 We all know why Keaton won. His weapon was lighter.
@@judgedredd2039 i mean ya anything thats lighter and preforms just as good is pretty much a instant win
Chopping weapon but he manage to make it lighter and tougher yet have the strength and sharpness.
heat treat, temper, and the finer points of grinding
A well made battle axe is usually substantially lighter than most people would assume. Some surviving Dane axes were forged so thin that the blades have corroded straight through in the center. Matt Easton at scholagladiatoria has a great video about it.
@@lukediehl1210 That good info right there.
Doug, the guy who's actually an assassin, picked up the heart from the dummy and squeezed it as he has many times, relishing in the kill
The keel*
Yes
"Is that your smiling face? Because it looks like you're in pain right now”
R O A S T E D
Zann Christo those are the type of comments that haunt a man, especially being on national television LOL
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CE Drawing I took away my like to ruin your comment, if only momentarily
@@BikingVikingHH noooo I have been defeted
Seeing Doug’s testing really makes you wonder “What if it was an actual human?”, this episode really made me question this
If it was an actual human, it will keel.
Just keep hackin'.
The result would be pretty much the same, if not a bit messier
@@Darmani2MB you wouldnt see the guys heart flyin out thats for sure.
Just reaching the heart would be a tough challenge as a real ribcage can take massive ammounts of force before it would crack.
In conclusion there would be more blood but a lot less tissue flyin through the air
@@julianeder3383 imagine a dude doing that just a bit stronger / bigger than Doug. Either way, devastating results.
This is probably one of the only episodes where I honestly didn't know which weapon the judges would choose
When it's this close it'll almost always be the lighter/better looking weapon.
Lighter weapon always wins unless it suffers a catastrophic failure.
@@Durwood71 yeah I know that's usually the case, but they were both very well made and both performed incredibly well. Hats off to the blademiths!
Don't stop that show I want this show to be keep going
Too many “oh no” and too many “oh yes” puns
What a pun!!!
This is a lot of fun.
Doug after murdering that dummy
3:50 - I Was supper pumped with how it performed.
@farawayforge
Your axe was amazing, mate! The best of luck in your future endeavors
Great show! it was a really good time and the final weapons were Amazing great job Keaton and Logan
thanks brother!
Thanks Nic!
At 4:10 whenever I hear that background sound I thought now it's going to be break now but luckily it's nooot 😂😂😂
Cz it will keeeeel 😆😆😆😆
THE SLOW MO'S
@0:12 nobody is gonna mention that epic moment?
Awwwww, the sportsmanship exhibited in this episode is really refreshing. I really like the head judge a lot he's really good at breaking bad news to people who have worked extremely hard and are awaiting a potentially huge payoff.
Am I the only one that gets inspired by watching FiF and Alec steele
This is so much better when the weapons are both of high quality. When it's this close though I wish they should a little more of the deliberation process from the judges.
Amazing weapons. Very good job from the both of them
thank you brother!
Thank you sir 🙏
series ideas:
FIF: Champion (episode winner)
FIF: Grand Champion (winner of the entire season)
FIF: Grand Master Champion (winner between multiple seasons)
im surprised none of them said anything about it being hard to index the winners weapon the first 2 tests both judges kept hitting at bad angles
I think it's less about indexing but more about it being so light it rolls because it doesn't have enough momentum
@@jackohearts9108 so light it rolls? that really doesn't even make sense...once you have a grip on something it doesn't just roll in your hands because its to light...
@@ziggie16 it's less rolling in the hand then deflecting of a target, it happens when hitting a rounded target or if there's not enough momentum to carry it through. The lighter a weapon the less power and momentum.
@@jackohearts9108 yea i understand the last part of what you said but if you watch the video the blade is at a off angle before its hitting. at 5:15 you can even see after he hit it doug instinctively moved his hand back to the right spot to have the blade indexed properly
If we are discussing momentum, then it is important to understand the definition of momentum: mv, where m = mass and v = velocity. You are correct in stating that having less mass reduces momentum; however, velocity is as significant a factor.
It should be quite clear that to accelerate an object of lesser mass at the same rate as an object with greater mass requires less force, so this implies that if the same force was used for each weapon, then the acceleration must have been greater for the weapon of lesser mass. Thus, the velocity of the weapon with lesser mass was greater prior to impact, which varies directly with momentum as stated above.
Assuming by power you are referring to energy, then the statement that the weapon with greater mass had more energy is slightly flawed. In the aforementioned, I argued how the velocity of the weapon with less mass is greater with the same amount of force applied. Because kinetic energy is defined as mv^2, we see that velocity has a greater contribution to the value of energy, relative to momentum. So, the energy involved would be considerably greater for the weapon with less mass.
I believe your intuition was leading you in the right direction. You will probably want to explore the concept of inertia, because that would be a more "correct" avenue to explore.
Nobody has more fun than Doug on this show
Cause he gets to KEAL
I hope they do an episode about the Japanese Kanabo.
I don't think it would be as exciting to forge hundreds of rivets and then shape a massive wooden club...
When i saw his Axe i already knew he will win because i can See Quality
Thank you sir 🙏
@@FarawayForge Good job man!
Well deserved.
@@FarawayForge what happens to the winner weapons on the show? do they keep them or do you get to take it home?
Kool aid man: *busts into room*
“OH YEAH!!!”
If any of the judges change from episode to episode I usually dont mind. But without Doug the show just wouldnt be the same.
Anyone else thinks that when they say "it's not what you do to the object, but what the object does to your weapon" I say who cares, I want to see the object get destroyed?
Yep, it's also why in the bone test they prebreak the bones diagonally so they can break in half more easily
4:16 I've heard about getting your heart broken but Doug will rip it right out of your chest 😂
RIght!
That... Wasn't the heart
@@nikoraasu6929 galbladder?
Ono
Oh, no.
Oh, yes.
I said more than Oh No when the welds didn't stick
@@Brackinforgeandhomestead You still made a powerful blade in 23 hours; no small accomplishment. You should make a video about what it was like being on the show!
Thanks!
I like when both blades stay strong and together and it comes down to minor things
They performed exactly the same, but Keatons was much more beautiful and sleek. A real work of art.
A true weapon is not about beauty. A true weapon is one that perfects the art of severing the life from an opponent as quickly as possible.
@@jack1234473 Only partly true. If they perform the same in tests it comes down to craftsmanship. If two blades perform exactly the same wouldn't you rather have the blade with finer craftsmanship? I know I would. Anyone can make something that kills. True craftsman set themselves apart by making something deadly appear beautiful without sacrificing functionality.
@@jack1234473 Very untrue, weapons in history were very often made to show status and wealth and would be made to look very nice with interesting shapes and gold inlays and all that, a well crafted weapon is both effective and good looking. not trying to say the other axe didn't look nice but the winner's one looked a bit better, besides it was lighter in weight so easier to use.
I objectively object with their decision. Keaton's axe was lighter, yes, but that also leads to more deflections... and it wasn't as sharp as the other guy's during the tube-cut, as evidenced by the one tube that got hung and pulled out of place. But eh... I'm not the guy that dishes out the prize money, so o well.
I whole heartedly agree (also notice how the lighter weapon kept rotating every time they struck something)! Both were cool axes though.
Sometimes that’s the way it goes. I appreciate your support.
Doug's wife: The food is ready
Doug: Tastes the food
Doug's wife: How is the food
Doug: It will KEAL
it will MEAL.
@@dynamitedingo8183 Doug's neighbour: Doug please stop selling knifes on the corner
Doug: I will DEAL
It would been funny if the axe was called "Ono Ono Ono" then for one of the judges to say "Oh yeah."
This always happens. One person has amazing luck and everything goes well and then the other person has terrible luck and still manages to turn in a great weapon. Props to these smiths.
One of the best episodes in a long time, interesting pieces and a fun one to watch. Always impressive when the woodpole handles endure the strength test.
I agree!
Was expecting the kool-aid man to break through a wall and say " oh yeah!" When the host said ono
They were head to head. It came down to his being lighter than his opponents.
The light one wins again!
Both weapons were beastly and did amazingly. It came down to weight and looks.
Doug what is ur favorite fruit... Doug... Banana..why Doug.. Because it will peel
This video
20% forging the blades
30% testing the blades
50%... oNO? More like oYES... You know? OYES.... I know you know
The weapon is named after the sentence they are going to say if there blade broke
Got to love how they skipped day 1 and day 4 of the forging process
Both had awesome blades.
The ono ,most infamous for killing the best band that ever existed!
Do an episode on the Japanese Yoko Ono sword. Able to slice through the members of a rock band like a hot knife through butter😛
They aren't going to explain why they chose his blade?
Both are equal in performance.
But winner blade is more beautiful
Doug scares me sometimes as I believe he might have some underlying homicidal tendencies.
probably less than your underlying racist tendencies.
@@daviduribe004 🤣...👌, sure thing bro! ✌❤🖖
They call it an Ono cause when you get hit by it you say "oh no"
I laughed way to hard at this. HA!
IF they can still speak or not is the question 😂
@@annaxuldraugworc7832 well, if they cant say it, they think it.
for the split second before it rips their heart out lol
wonder this vedio will be probably demonitized!!xD
for me Logan should have been the winner! Keith's kono twists during the swings because its too light. yes its sharp but look at the slo-mos it hits the targets twisting before it lands. Good thing its sharp, coz it would have slid on the target's surface and injured the wielder's arm, or someone else.
thanks man I appreciate that!
They didn't even explain why the other guy lost. Yes, we all KNOW it was weight related, but I still wanted to hear it from the horses mouth. 🤷
It looked like it was forged by a pre-pubecent ballerina
Japanese army: We have a new Weapon.
another Japanese army : Oh No.
Japanese army: We have a Name.
“The Japanese ‘Ono’.”
*”Oh yes.”*
I still think the winners should he able to keep their weapons. Very close round though.
Agreed. I'd be fairly upset if I won the show and couldn't even keep my winning weapon.
Make south Indian iconic weapon ARUVA
I'm surprised they didn't take advantage of the weapon being an Ono by saying "Oh yes" at every opportunity..
All of these Ono puns can get very...
*Ono-ying* very quickly...
We all know that Doug is a psychopath when he pick up the dummy's heart,squeeze it like it was beating and said "that was a lot of fun"
So many "oh yes" jokes I expected the Kool-Aid man to show up.
Peasant 1: "Ono!"
Peasant 2: "Ono!"
Peasant 3: "Ono!"
Soldier: "Oya!" cuts all the peasant's heads off in a single swing
Axellent episode
I kinda liked the other guy's ono more...
I feel like they should show more of the forging parts of the weapons
Doug was definitely having fun with Logan's Ono... that thing just demolished that dummy
thank you!
Hitting the ono/oyes puns so hard it will keel
Every time it smacked against the bamboo I was like "Oh No." hahaha
He doesent even get an explanation he had to left the building as fast as he could
The Japenese Ono
Me:Playing the Oh no meme
Dude, if I had a hundred ninety five dollars for every time that they said “Oh Yes” with that finale weapon, I’d be even richer.
"Oh Yes"
Badumm-Tsss.
The name is true, when you see a Ono you go "O no"
The japanese ONO!!!!!........ oh YES lol
5:52 why is he standing so awkwardly 😂
0:12 You know he was just itching to say that
Always gonna be an axe man at heart.
Cleanest competition ever in FIF imo
Everyone: Oh no! Oh no! Oh no!
Will Willis: OH YEAAHHHH!
One of the only episodes where I would've been satisfied regardless of who won, the weapons were both JUST THAT GOOD :D
I can't stop watching all this forged in fire videos, man.
I would hate to go into any weapons fight with Doug
if that strength test was something tougher or harder than bamboo, I'm not sure that thin blade would have survived very well.
I want to walk up to one of the winners one day and ask them to make me a sword...
In every case , when the weapon is lighter, and still holds it's sharpness, plus there's no warp, or broken handle its as always a winner, I know when there is a artistic flare too, it's as perfect as can be perfect , the judges had a difficult time making a decision on this one or maybe not. One thing for sure, both was winners today.
In real life, when in battle for a hour or more, when your opponents is wearing armour, whether its raw hide or brass or both how well these weapons will last, I believe the test should last longer. That will separate the men from the boys . Remember battles back in the day always last longer.
5:15 They are dead Doug, they are all dead.
I freaking love Doug😂🤩
Wait. Where is the explanation?
Altogether now: IT WILL KEEL
I hate the order. It should be sharpness, strength, then keel test. Smh.
The reason for having the sharpness last, is that the blades need to endure the strength. If they still are sharp after that, it shows the craftsmanship
I think the orders perfect. The kill test is basically a gimme round to showcase the weapon. The strength test pushes it's limits and then the sharpness test shows if after all that the weapon can still perform top notch.
I agree with the judge's decision, but I want the other guy's Ono more. That is a devastating weapon
Thanks. I think I know where it can be found.
The amount of 'Ono' pun in this video is amazing 🤣
I really felt Doug's joy