Thanks to you, I have plastered My daughters room after I extended it. Now here I am again learning about first layers of my own plastered wall. Thank you for your videos dude. From Sunny South Wales ;)
The video I've been putting off watching as I've already done this job recently in two newly plastered rooms. Waiting to see what I've done wrong! Actually pretty much did the same except for I used 50/50 water paint.
Thanks for the feedback. From my DIY trial and error experience this is what I find best. But like I said in video, not an exact science, depends on paint and surface really. A bit like plastering each wall is different. Thanks for watching!
i just a new sprayer a customer just had his kitchen plastered ... i do 30/40% of water stained the paint stired it up realy well ... it was flawless nice smooth walls 👍
Hi thanks for the video! What do you recommend if part of the wall is plastered and part not. Should apply the emulsion to the whole area? I noticed that the paint shades are coming out differently. How do you get around that?
Interesting information. Does the same method of application apply if you were to strip wallpaper from a plastered wall. Do you still need a mist coat of emulsion or is there another treatment due to impregnation of wallpaper paste? Great vids! Cheers
This is just for fresh plaster so the paint absorbs correctly into the plaster. If you peel wall paper, a lot of people use sugar soap to clean the wall prior to painting. But if you wall is in bad shape, sometimes better to have it plastered again to get a nice new finish. Hope that helps.
Hi Pouse, good vid 👍. I used to do this but now I use the large 15l tubs of leyland trade super leytex for new plaster. It has a permeable film that allows the plaster to breathe and still dry out. You don't have to thin it and get extremely good opacity with the first coat and dries quick so it doesn't half speed things up. Worth checking out, I think you'll like the results. (painted quite a bit of fresh plaster, I don't work for leyland haha) cheers.
Hi, thanks for another great video. Would you recommend the same technique for painting on (1) plaster that is fully dry, that has been done about one year ago and never painted before, (2) plaster in a bathroom.
Yes, still worth soaking it down as it just stops the paint forming a peel. In fact an older wall is probably worse and will definitely suck the moisture up. Only thing with a bathroom is you may want to use a silk or specific bathroom emulsion for your final coat as they will wipe clean. A matt emulsion finish has a tenancy to come off when you wipe it. Best of luck with it!
I've never used them but having spoken to people who have there's not much difference, they are still quite thick but cost more. Personally I'll stick with this method but feel free to try one out and let us know how you get on. Thanks for watching.
Say if I wanted a different colour wall, say grey? Do I still use the white contract matt as a mist coat then paint the grey on top, or do I just simply water down the grey paint and use that as a mist coat???
If the basic matt emulsion is in grey then you could. The main reaon is that most basic matt emulsion is white, it's the chepest and it provides a nice base coat and colour for any colour to go over the top. Hope that helps.
I'm sure there are many suitable ways to do it. It's only after a few years of living with it before you find out if it was any good or not. Most painter decorators or property renovators paint a wall and walk away never to see how well their finish lasted. Only by living with your work for years do you truly find out how good your work is! Thanks for wacthing.
Hi mate, thanks for the video, it's great. I need to ask a question. I got some cheap matt paint from local The Range. It doesn't say anything on the back about watering down. So I am pretty new to this and sanded wall down recently to do a test for getting a mist coat right. Sanded the paint off back to bare plaster, smooth and cleaned. However I seem to be getting a weird rough texture when rolling the mist coat, using a Harris seriously good set with a medium pile roller. Seems like some weird stipple effect but it's very textured. I tried 3 parts paint 1 part 1 water as suggested on Dulux website and also 50/50 but still get it. It's gone once I sanded it down lightly but shouldn't have to do this? Not sure if I am doing things wrong but im not even entirely sure how to measure this stuff out. Since it's a small test area I just got a plastic double cream container left over, cleaned, and fill one whole pot of paint and same amount of water, mixed it together and rolled it on from tray.
The textured effect can be caused by the roller, but the only other thing is if you've sanded too much plaster off the wall. Did you clean all the dust off before you started painting? Without seeing it it's difficult to say. Best of luck with it.
What's your view on roller vs airless spraying techniques. Would you still mist if spraying or would you say it's less necessary because of the difference in method?
Same rules apply. Paint needs to be thined so it adheres and soaks in to the plaster. A thin coat dusted on with 515-517 tip. Allow to fully dry before coating up....and only use a graco 495. Anything else is just not cricket
I’ve just applied a mist coat of Wickes White Emulsion, 4 part paint to 1 part water; after drying, I’ve tried to wash out the coat with a wet sponge and it can be removed quite easily; is this normal or a sign that I should redo the mist coat with a different paint or mixing ratio?
"If you go a bit aggressively it's going to end up everywhere"....he says with white paint in his eye! 😂 I'm sure I've seen a similar video to this somewhere! 😉😂
This is a great video like all in your channel. I want to paint a bathroom with an acrylic eggshell. Do you still recommend doing the mist coat on the plaster the way you described in this video with Matt emulsion and then use the acrylic eggshell or would you have other suggestions? Thanks
I’m just in the process of doing the same thing to our bathroom. Part of the room has already been painted with an eggshell but a new radiator has meant I need to cover the areas of new plaster (went through the wall to add another rad next door). I’ve mist-coated the new stuff and will do a single basic white matt emulsion coat, let it dry and then go over it with the eggshell. My understanding is that applying the eggshell/acrylic to new plaster, may retain moisture within the new plaster if it hasn’t fully cured and by using a mist coat with trade matt emulsion, letting it fully dry out, then painting with a coat of the same but non-diluted matt paint (and dry out), the acrylic paint coat in the bathroom will sit on top and properly repel moisture. I’m not a pro but have first (and second!) hand experience of peeling paint in bathrooms…hope this helps.
I've just done this today but used Leyland contract matt. Did 50/50 at first as recommended by alot of people in the reviews however it was dripping quiet a lot everywhere so added 10% more paint. I am getting lines all over!! First time painting in my life, practiced on 2 cielings with 1 coat so far. I am using a Harris roller set. Please help
50/50 os far too much water, thats a 100% ratio...it not only doesnt cover, it breaks down the binder in the paint, leaving the surface chalky. Read the instructions on the tin...igonore what they say in facebook groups, most probably dont know the difference between thinning paint by 50% and 50/50
@@Lloyd1885 "most probably dont know the difference between thinning paint by 50% and 50/50" I am so confused. How is this not the same thing? Please explain
@@SkemeKOS 50/50 is half and half... 'BY' 50% is thinning the paint by half of the volume Its the same as having a glass with some water in it and someone saying add 50% squash.... 50/50 is 100% by ratio
Pva and water is to seal an old wall before plastering. This wall has new plaster. Never pva new plaster, it will make a shiny surface that won't allow paint to adhere to the wall. Hope that helps.
No not really as a new build house painter myself applying the mist coat will show any defects in the plaster then can be fine filled after the mist coat & then a light sand before rolling is perfectly fine
Thanks to you, I have plastered My daughters room after I extended it. Now here I am again learning about first layers of my own plastered wall. Thank you for your videos dude. From Sunny South Wales ;)
Wonderful, glad to help and thanks for supporting the channel! 👍
Yet again Mr Pouse, sharing the knowledge not keeping the secrets and I’m all the better for it, thank you Mr
Great to hear the videos are useful. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
some may think he over simplifies everything here but for someone like me who has never painted before this video is fantastic!
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Thanks this is the best video, on how to paint fresh plaster, have done this before, but you have given me some great new tips, Cheers !!
The video I've been putting off watching as I've already done this job recently in two newly plastered rooms. Waiting to see what I've done wrong! Actually pretty much did the same except for I used 50/50 water paint.
That'll be fine! Thanks for watching.
Great to see a new vid Pouse. Going to watch now!
Nice one, hope you enjoy.
Working in DIY shop, this is the advise we are told to tell customers wishing to paint bare plaster 👍, no need for expensive sealers
Thanks for the feedback. From my DIY trial and error experience this is what I find best. But like I said in video, not an exact science, depends on paint and surface really. A bit like plastering each wall is different. Thanks for watching!
i just a new sprayer a customer just had his kitchen plastered ... i do 30/40% of water stained the paint stired it up realy well ... it was flawless nice smooth walls 👍
Great video, really well explained for a newbie like me. Cheers 👌👍☕
Glad to help.
Excellent video thank you so much
Thanks for the feedback.
Hi thanks for the video! What do you recommend if part of the wall is plastered and part not. Should apply the emulsion to the whole area? I noticed that the paint shades are coming out differently. How do you get around that?
Interesting information. Does the same method of application apply if you were to strip wallpaper from a plastered wall.
Do you still need a mist coat of emulsion or is there another treatment due to impregnation of wallpaper paste?
Great vids!
Cheers
This is just for fresh plaster so the paint absorbs correctly into the plaster. If you peel wall paper, a lot of people use sugar soap to clean the wall prior to painting. But if you wall is in bad shape, sometimes better to have it plastered again to get a nice new finish. Hope that helps.
Hi Pouse, good vid 👍. I used to do this but now I use the large 15l tubs of leyland trade super leytex for new plaster. It has a permeable film that allows the plaster to breathe and still dry out. You don't have to thin it and get extremely good opacity with the first coat and dries quick so it doesn't half speed things up. Worth checking out, I think you'll like the results. (painted quite a bit of fresh plaster, I don't work for leyland haha) cheers.
Thanks for the advice. I'll check that out although I imagine it costs a bit more than regular paint? Thanks for watching.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE its not bad mate, you save becausea you get great coverage. Toolstation/screwfix sell it.
Great video
Thanks for the comment!
How long should we wait between the two mist coats, or between the mist coat, and the full coat of paint. Thanks.
Do you also need to water down paint which says ideal for new plaster?
I've never used that but I'm assuming it's already thin to be used straight out of the tub.
Hi, thanks for another great video. Would you recommend the same technique for painting on (1) plaster that is fully dry, that has been done about one year ago and never painted before, (2) plaster in a bathroom.
Yes, still worth soaking it down as it just stops the paint forming a peel. In fact an older wall is probably worse and will definitely suck the moisture up. Only thing with a bathroom is you may want to use a silk or specific bathroom emulsion for your final coat as they will wipe clean. A matt emulsion finish has a tenancy to come off when you wipe it. Best of luck with it!
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE thank you very much for your help. Much appreciated it. Best wishes
What’s your take on dedicated sealer/binder paints which are supposed to be made for bare plaster?
I've never used them but having spoken to people who have there's not much difference, they are still quite thick but cost more. Personally I'll stick with this method but feel free to try one out and let us know how you get on. Thanks for watching.
I use Armstead Contract paint. I mix 3ltr paint to 2ltr water. I never need to do a second mist coat.
Say if I wanted a different colour wall, say grey?
Do I still use the white contract matt as a mist coat then paint the grey on top, or do I just simply water down the grey paint and use that as a mist coat???
If the basic matt emulsion is in grey then you could. The main reaon is that most basic matt emulsion is white, it's the chepest and it provides a nice base coat and colour for any colour to go over the top. Hope that helps.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE okay thanks for the reply!
So many youtube expert's on here lol looks good to me
I'm sure there are many suitable ways to do it. It's only after a few years of living with it before you find out if it was any good or not. Most painter decorators or property renovators paint a wall and walk away never to see how well their finish lasted. Only by living with your work for years do you truly find out how good your work is! Thanks for wacthing.
Hi mate, thanks for the video, it's great. I need to ask a question. I got some cheap matt paint from local The Range. It doesn't say anything on the back about watering down. So I am pretty new to this and sanded wall down recently to do a test for getting a mist coat right. Sanded the paint off back to bare plaster, smooth and cleaned. However I seem to be getting a weird rough texture when rolling the mist coat, using a Harris seriously good set with a medium pile roller.
Seems like some weird stipple effect but it's very textured. I tried 3 parts paint 1 part 1 water as suggested on Dulux website and also 50/50 but still get it. It's gone once I sanded it down lightly but shouldn't have to do this? Not sure if I am doing things wrong but im not even entirely sure how to measure this stuff out. Since it's a small test area I just got a plastic double cream container left over, cleaned, and fill one whole pot of paint and same amount of water, mixed it together and rolled it on from tray.
The textured effect can be caused by the roller, but the only other thing is if you've sanded too much plaster off the wall. Did you clean all the dust off before you started painting? Without seeing it it's difficult to say. Best of luck with it.
What's your view on roller vs airless spraying techniques. Would you still mist if spraying or would you say it's less necessary because of the difference in method?
Never used airless so couldn't comment. What are your thoughts?
Same rules apply. Paint needs to be thined so it adheres and soaks in to the plaster. A thin coat dusted on with 515-517 tip. Allow to fully dry before coating up....and only use a graco 495. Anything else is just not cricket
What about bare plaster paint from Screwfix?
I’ve just applied a mist coat of Wickes White Emulsion, 4 part paint to 1 part water; after drying, I’ve tried to wash out the coat with a wet sponge and it can be removed quite easily; is this normal or a sign that I should redo the mist coat with a different paint or mixing ratio?
It would be normal, its a contract matt
"If you go a bit aggressively it's going to end up everywhere"....he says with white paint in his eye! 😂 I'm sure I've seen a similar video to this somewhere! 😉😂
Just speaking from experience!
This is a great video like all in your channel. I want to paint a bathroom with an acrylic eggshell. Do you still recommend doing the mist coat on the plaster the way you described in this video with Matt emulsion and then use the acrylic eggshell or would you have other suggestions? Thanks
I’m just in the process of doing the same thing to our bathroom. Part of the room has already been painted with an eggshell but a new radiator has meant I need to cover the areas of new plaster (went through the wall to add another rad next door). I’ve mist-coated the new stuff and will do a single basic white matt emulsion coat, let it dry and then go over it with the eggshell. My understanding is that applying the eggshell/acrylic to new plaster, may retain moisture within the new plaster if it hasn’t fully cured and by using a mist coat with trade matt emulsion, letting it fully dry out, then painting with a coat of the same but non-diluted matt paint (and dry out), the acrylic paint coat in the bathroom will sit on top and properly repel moisture. I’m not a pro but have first (and second!) hand experience of peeling paint in bathrooms…hope this helps.
@@tonysmith3475 thank you. This is very useful. Much appreciated you taking the time to share your advice.
I've just done this today but used Leyland contract matt. Did 50/50 at first as recommended by alot of people in the reviews however it was dripping quiet a lot everywhere so added 10% more paint.
I am getting lines all over!! First time painting in my life, practiced on 2 cielings with 1 coat so far.
I am using a Harris roller set. Please help
50/50 os far too much water, thats a 100% ratio...it not only doesnt cover, it breaks down the binder in the paint, leaving the surface chalky.
Read the instructions on the tin...igonore what they say in facebook groups, most probably dont know the difference between thinning paint by 50% and 50/50
@@Lloyd1885 "most probably dont know the difference between thinning paint by 50% and 50/50"
I am so confused. How is this not the same thing? Please explain
@@SkemeKOS 50/50 is half and half...
'BY' 50% is thinning the paint by half of the volume
Its the same as having a glass with some water in it and someone saying add 50% squash....
50/50 is 100% by ratio
Would you do this instead of pva and water? Thanks
Pva and water is to seal an old wall before plastering. This wall has new plaster. Never pva new plaster, it will make a shiny surface that won't allow paint to adhere to the wall. Hope that helps.
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE Thanks for the tip, didn't know that. Live and learn!
@@POUSEaroundtheHOUSE P.v.a will reactivate when painted over and ensure a good bond of paint to the new plaster.
@@stevenedwards2162 it could cause the paint to peel, decorators dont do it, paint specifiers don't specify it. Diy myth
is it advisable to wipe the newly plastered walls down prior to mist coating?
No not really as a new build house painter myself applying the mist coat will show any defects in the plaster then can be fine filled after the mist coat & then a light sand before rolling is perfectly fine
Would you not add pva?
No never, decorators dont do that.
How many coats would you need to put on the new plaster?
Only only mist coat if you dont over thin it
Weres the loft stair video cuzzy cuz with the shwuzzy buzz
It's coming, might just be a while! Thanks for watching.
So after the ‘mist’ coat can i just use the normal paint as it comes out the tub?
Yes. He mentions this @8:49
I wouldnt thin that crown diy paint by 40%...thats why it didnt cover, about 20% maybe.
Its already very thin anyway
I always just go 50/50
Thanks for the feedback Stephen and thanks for watching.
To much water
As lam.khan.pintar
lash some water in it mix it lash it on ,saved you 10 min of your life
Fair enough, thanks for watching!
Screwfix no nonsense bare plaster paint.
It works but for the price I prefer watering down an emulsion as per the video. Thanks for the comment 👍
Tbh Sid,it was better with 1 video a week on a Sunday rather than 3 in 1 week then nothing for 3 weeks….👍
That has to be the worst mist-coat I’ve ever seen….!
I’m a new build house painter with 24 years experience
Then please tell us how it's done....
That has to be the worst mist-coat I’ve ever seen….!
I’m a new build house painter with 2-4 hours experience