Warrior Cats Canon Hierarchy
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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plot twist Brokenstar is the fox that killed the kits
wow...yessss thats ...just...crazyy..never though of it that way...mind blown!!!
*x files theme plays*
Dripping Honeycomb
(Conspiracy music intesifies)
Dripping Honeycomb are u sure that he was close to foxheart cause it didn't look like it
Dripping Honeycomb the reason cats thought his mother was foxheart it because she spent a lot of time around him and then made her dep. so cat theorized that they were mates
Petition for Moon to write her own Warriors Wiki
butterflyidentity *signs petition*
yes
butterflyidentity I'm in !
butterflyidentity *signs*
I have a full time job, pls don't sign this petition
I was browsing the Warriors wiki once and I saw this glitch on Patchpelt's page where it moved all the names in the family tree box one step down. According to the Wiki, Adderfang, Patchpelt's father, is now Patchpelt's son. Swiftbreeze, Patchpelt's mother, is now his father, and Redtail is his mother. Spottedleaf, Willowpelt, and Leopardfoot are his brothers. His BROTHERS.
And you thought the website family trees were messed up.
Quiet Rage O.O
They revamped the code so it looked better and didn't glitch.
Another error with a warriors info source: The "official app" of warriors that moonkitti mentioned, that says firestar' she parents are unknown, but then says who his mother is, I own that app, and it has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm
Quiet Rage that happened in the tigerstar page too
oml ur prof pic says it all XD
I vote Moonkitti make a Moonwiki XD
Amberflame Animations YASSS
I 345th that vote!
THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THIRD VOTE
364th
*sighs paper* YAS
Yo where can i get one of hollyleaf's chainsaws, they would sell amazingly well among the dark forest cats
Lilacuity a
Lol!
Lmao ya
My OC, Spottedsky walked up to you. "I can give you one for five mice! Just come down to twoleg place..." Spottedsky stared at you mischievously.
*Leaf creek walks up* what? I heard mice. Wheres the mice?
Holy crap! I didn't know Brokentail was also a shapeshitter!!
Xx_The1stPalmsway_xX Omg XD
Xx_The1stPalmsway_xX "a shapeshitter"
sTARKIT!??!!?
Eliza_Da_Hamilfan All I can think of is a cat's poop being little shapes.
Oh yeah, a shitter of shapes.
Erin Hunters: Lets make an official website! But we won't update it any time after 2010 though trolololl
this is so true it hurts
this hurts
And let's remove the only actual fun game from it as well :D
oof, too soon
Except, now they did.
0:47 Maybe Brokenstar made them fight the fox? it could make sense..?
MissSeaGoat That's what I thought, maybe Brokenstar then used Yellowfang as a way to pin the death of the kits on to another cat rather than a fox (I'm guessing he just didn't like her for some reason)
Bleach Martini Yellowfang threatend him that she will make Star Clan punish him, so he got rid of his mother (he also killed his father so yeah great cat)
Bleach Martini i just looked up to see if its, like mentioned in the video, a fact that the fox killed them which is not. And there i also read the part were she threatend him. Poor Yellowfang her only son choose the wrong road despite having the choice
+Tom Don't forget about what he did to Mufasa
Weirdanimalboy who? xD
For the entire Cats of the Clans book Mosskit was a tom. Does this bother no one else.
IT BOTHERS MEEEE
The first time Mosskit was mentioned s/he was a tom. I wonder if the gender of cats changes based on which author wrote the book.
Caden Wiener Apparently according too Bluestar's prophecy, Crookedstar has two mothers. Isn't he lucky!
(His moms are called Lilystem and Rainflower
Another error with a warriors info source: The "official app" of warriors that moonkitti mentioned, that says firestar' she parents are unknown, but then says who his mother is, I own that app, and it has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm
Not as much as Dovewing's second power. Her eyes can't decide on their colour! (Also, Patchpelt had kits with a sibling **Pukes**)
DANG IT I wanted smudge to be Cloudtail's dad
HatterCat !
Ikr! Same!
Actually they never said he was tho
HatterCat ! Yeah
HatterCat ! Didn't Firepaw say he smelled different when he met him again as an apprentice? I thought they had a conversation about him going to the cutter?
No. Jake should be his father . Jake is everyones father. Jake is YOUr father.
Fun fact: Yellowfang ran into crookedjaw at a gathering once
I think he was with Willowbreeze or Bluefur were there as well
ok
Noice
To be honest I always took the 'Whitestorm having kits with multiple queens' things as just providing future warriors for the Clan. No romance, no cheating.
I believe that Yellowfang's mother has some trust issues. The so called Marigoldkit and Mintkit were Yellowfang's siblings, and for her mother to believe she killed them is really messed up. Also apparently on the wiki it says she's in the Dark Forest? Uhhhh
Her being in the dark forest is another one of Su Susann's claims that doesn't add up.
Moonkitti that’s even more confusing
TheStylishWolf
She was actually one of the best Warriors mothers up until right then
Moonkitti• do u mean theyre saying yellow fangs in le dark forest?
I think they mean that because in Fading Echoes, (spoilers for oots) Yellowfang and Jayfeather visit the Dark Forest because they want to know what's going on there.
Yes, I know this was 3 years ago.
it's 5 AM and im awake watching THIS
i love it.
oh
its 10 pm here
NeonGreenFox :3 Here were I live, it's 5:44 a.m
+Pelo de Folhas now its 1 pm
+NeonGreenFox :3 aka in norway
i seriously wasn't hoping this comment get 51 likes XD
all fine but you made one mistake: in Yellowfangs secret it is *suggested* that it was a fox an then (Spoiler) Yellowfang got blamed for it. And she believes it was a fox but when Thunderclan trys to get their kits back she probably realizes that he killed the Kits. it was never proven to be an Fox (Note there was also no fox scent)
I noticed that too, it wasn’t a fox, yellowfang thought it was.
That's a lot of what I have wondered I do and don't trust the Warriors WIKI for those reasons
It would be funny if you animated the Warrior Cats movie
Stormwhisker Productions Yes please X3
Stormwhisker Productions With the running cycle Bluestar had in the spoiler video of Rising Storm? It would be amazing.
lmao i'd watch it if she animated it in the way she animates the I Spoil videos.
7:45
Pffttt
Thorrkit?
Where's Lokikit?
Lmaoo
lokitty
Ah yes. My favorite character:
BRACKERKIT
lollllllllll
LMAOOO
I'm extremely scared for the movie
Spira - literally me
me too
I live under a rock.
I HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A MOVIE
Agreed, but I'm gonna try and drag my warriors fan friends to it anyways.
Spira HELLBENT!!!!!!!
Moonkitti, the queen of consistency.
Oh yes PLEASE don't let the wiki change the descriptions for the cats to the ones from the movie when it comes. I'm scared the movie'll will use ''Realistic" cat models, and not have 'some fun' with the cats, and make them look unique. Even the official book art can't decide what cats look like, and neither can us as a fandom. But the unique designs are the point. I almost wish we WEREN'T getting a movie, because I feel it'll bring 'official designs' and the wiki may feel the need to use them, but I really hope not. Thanks for the great video, Moon, Love it :3!
OnionIsKing they'll be using the main book cover cat designs probably as they are the realistic illustrative designs of the character
I'd like realistic cats in the movie, especially if they're well animated like Legend Of The Guardians: The Owls Of Gahoole. That movie was gorgeous.
OnionIsKing
And I rlly hope that it's Handdrawn
@Pearly The Fried Egg
I remember seeing that movie when I was five or something, it was gorgeous... Too bad I can't remember much of it tho
That actually makes me sick. Like the over-dominance of CGI created animated movies is pathetic. There haven't been any 2D style animated movies in the US in like... over 10 years. This would've been perfect, but no, let's jump on the CGI bandwagon like everyone else.
Moonkitti becomes lzrdwzrd.
MalachaiLikesMangos Funny Blzrd wzrd
The Warriors Website Family Tree is probably where BrindlefaceXWhitestorm was born.
HA
We do NOT acknowledge that here!
Also, I have an incest theory-
Everyone that trained in the dark forest in Thunderclan is related to Tigerstar. Ivypool is anyway...
Chicory sugar and tigerheart r realatd
How is Ivypool related? I’m only on Omen of the stars book 4
Ivypool isn’t related to Tigerstar
O O F I finished omen of the stars now
@@quantumflare Not blood - related, but mate related.Tigerstar was Bramblestar's farther, who mated with Squirrelflight who is related to Ivypool through Cloudtail.
petition for moon to do an asmr or a video where she is just laughing.
all her fans just love that laugh omg
*How do you delete someone else's comment?*
@@valiendovrgasenores6943 I don't know but I need to know
This comment is interesting
I have a bad fact.
They were all in the matrix all along, and scourge was the boss of it all.
Definitely not a person NOOOOOOO
Lmao
OHhhhhh YES
More like a miniboss lmao
Legend says that if your on time moon will reply
Puppy Bananna I guess that legend wasn't true
yep XD
The "official app" of warriors has a trivia game and like 75% of the answers are wrong. For example: Barley murdered Spottedleaf and Brightheart's first warrior name was Sadheart instead of Lostface. Greystripe gets to mentor BraNkenpaw instead of Brackenpaw and Cloudtail's mother was Sandstorm.
Who had a better story than brankenpaw the broken? Sadface.
I REMEMBER THAT and my friend ATE IT UPPP
I know this comment is old, but...
Give that trivia to someone who just started reading and has finished arc 1, but only the arc 1 questions. And then give them the "right answers".
Moon is not allowed as a prefix, but is fine for a suffix, at least that's what I've always believed.
Sydney Arnold but based on what evidence
WTF you replied :P. None, it's just what I've always thought, since they use is as a suffix quite commonly.
Sydney Arnold ahh, I see. I was just wondering if you knew something I didn't
No, I'm just saying what I've always believed, though I never use 'Moon' for anything anyways.
Moonflower is triggered
I think a lot of the first series stuff should be canon, yeah, except for some of the dumb early things.... like shadowclan being angry 5 times
Mythimna Don't you mean EdgyClan?
Weirdanimalboy theyre not edgy, they're misunderstood(sarcasm sarcasm)
im deceASED thornclaw is over twice blossomfalls age why cant they just leave him be
At the very least it's Blossomfall and not some new warrior like Hollytuft or Sorrelstripe
yes
i think he's always been putting his head together with blossomfall, sort of makes sense but it is better than like sparkpelt.
probably related somehow though
That's true. Tbh I honestly never thought he would get a mate
Eh, they're both consenting adults so I don't really care. I think the only relationship in Warriors where I cringed at the age difference was Pinestar and Leopardfoot. That was just...unnecessary and uncomfy.
I think Warrior cats app should be lower on the list...
It is very outdated and doesn't have many facts
I was wondering why all those kits suddenly had names in the wiki
idk if i like this su susann '^' were all ultra warriors fans
yes..thank you...just what I was saying!!
What about that one friend I have..... ya Know..... that only read power of three Up To book 4 And the ultimate guide.
And then stopped.
Savannahmrowl Yeah I don't think there is a such thing as a casual Warrior Cats fan.
yup!
Haha, I spend my hard earned money on Warriors books.Try me
Dovewing having blue eyes, then switching to green, WHY!?
That moment Violetpaw reminds you of Starkit because of the name. XD
You can actually trust more on the website than the app
I really dont like the new covers for the books.Seeing a image of one gets me really annoyed.The new ones are all "Epic" and "Gritty" looking when I think they look far worse than the old covers.Have you seen the new covers for "The Darkest Hour" and "The Last Hope"?They look terrible and I hope they dont change the cover for the first one again when the film comes out.That was my rant about the covers.Also I gave up on "Continuity" for the series and just said "whatever book i'm reading is the continuity i'm going with" because its much simpler that way.
Nathan Huerta Actually, Dawn Of The Clans and Omen Of The Stars have the new covers (I believe) and they have some of the prettiest covers I have ever seen!
Nathan Huerta
I love the new covers! It's aesthetically pleasing and the old ones could be pretty in their own right, but they don't fit into the modern aesthetic and were often pretty inconsistent/contradictory in terms of art. The new ones are just really pleasing to look at, but that's me speaking from an artist's standpoint. To each their own!
kuku88 I'm just a crotchety old man who thinks things were better "in the old days" and have a hard time accepting change.
Im like that too haha
Nathan Huerta well in the German Version its a Giant head of either Firestar or Sandstorm with 2 cats fighting (probably Firestar and Tigerstar or Bramblepaw) and a black cat beside them
Leafpool isn't on the app info because she's a disappointment.
Fallout Kat - ikr
I personally agree but. I'm confused how Thistleclaw changed through the books Xd
I have a theory. By OotS, Thistleclaw had spent so much time in the DF that the place corrupted his mind.
@@TobyandMavisforever i read OotS as oooots
I love how they make these wonderful mistakes
I like the wiki for when they have the summaries for books but the info on characters they have is so wrong like I believed Redtail was a dark-ginger for months until I reread the series.
I tried the quiz on the warriors app, and because i smelt something was apaw (get it?) i checked each question in the books and on the wiki. It gave me 0, even when i knew i answered correctly. One question I got was "In Fire and Ice, which cat fell into the gorge and died?" My options were Leopardfur, Sandpaw, Whiteclaw, and Graystripe. Obviously I chose Whiteclaw, as i had recently read his death scene. The app said "NO DUMBARSE, IT WAS SANDPAW!!!" Obviously not like that, but it said Sandpaw fell off the edge and died. I deleted the app whilst flipping it off the entire time
Okay, I watched this video when it came out, and I hadn't read Yellowfang's Secret. I assumed Brokenstar killed the kits by sending them to a fox, but after reading Yellowfang's Secret, something hit me.
The book never says a fox killed the kits, only that Yellowfang detected the scent of a fox. She didn't even guess Brokenstar killed the kits.
That's why it makes sense he had his "I killed Mufasa" moment in Into The Wild when he reveals he killed Mintkit and Marigoldkit. Yellowfang had no clue.
Maybe Brokenstar spread fox-dung around the area, or just killed the kits somewhere there was fox-scent?
Sidenote -
Brokenstar in Into The Wild seemed like a boring, generic, "I am evil and am going to kill you!" villain, but when reading Yellowfang's Secret, he was sometimes kinda sweet as a kit (especially around Yellowfang), but as he descended into evil, he became really convincingly manipulative.
So...does this make Mosskit a tom or a she-cat?? Because NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW.
Mosskit does not obey your puny human genders
Mosskit is *_A L L ._*
I think she's a girl since Bluestar's Prophecy is her biggest appearance.
When explained in Forest of Secrets, Mosskit is male. But all throughout Bluestar’s Prophecy Mosskit is female.
SHE-CAT!!!!! (uhhh....yeah, I read the books in two languages, and counted how often the, were named a she-cat, and how often a Tom, and the she-cat "won", so she is a she-cat for me)
You are the best in the youtube world *how much do I get paid to say this?*
right...lol!!
D Jay Rainstorm 19 cents
my hearts hurts for Rosetail
(look at what they did to her design in the wiki, it's just... uh yeah)
In Bramblestar's Storm, Graystripe stated Mistystar and Stonefur were his kits. They were born before he was! Get your crap together Erins
The messages I was getting before Bluestar died was that Whitestorm had had a romantic relationship with her or before she went insane, had a crush on her and that was what we continuosly observed from Fireheart's point of view, Whitestorm caring for Bluestar, I still ship it
I know this was from 11 months ago but Whitestorm is Bluestar's nephew.
The reason viki is not writing warriors anymore is bc she is recovering from cancer and she has had no time to wright warriors bc she is recovering is says so on her face book somewhere and that is why they didn't tell us the name of the new author bc it wont last for long from my understanding
I could be wrong
Omg I’ve never seen the actual cover of Crookedstar’s Promise, like without the jacket and wthhh he literally looks like something from the exorcist
Moonkitti: Mangas aren’t usually contradicting
Me: *C O U G H* millies pelt color in the full color graystripe’s adventure vs main series
Authors: moon can’t be used in a name
Moonkitti: *sweats nervously*
Well, did anyone notice that in Crookedstar's Promise, Shellheart is a boy... On the other paw, in Bluestar's Prophecy, Shellheart is a girl... FIRST EVER TRANSGENDER CAT!
Foxheart from Yellowfang's Secret also had a gender change from then to Crookedstar's Promise
Don't forget Rowanstar...
On the alligences in Bluestar's Prophecy Rainflower is called Lilystem.
There's plenty
Transcats are best cats
This video helped me figure out why I've had a harder and harder time getting into the books as the series goes on. It's the author's version of "too many cooks in the kitchen".
0:25 Brokenstar turned into a fox and killed them
Wait but is the Brokenstar thing an actual contradiction? The way I always saw it was that the kits should not have been outside the camp, it was Brokenstar who pushed for them to be outside the camp, training too hard, too soon. In their training they were killed by a fox. It's still almost entirely Brokenstar's fault as he disobeyed the code(?), common sense and ignored or didn't care about the heightened danger he put the kits in. I mean original I did assume Brokenstar was the one who actual fought them to death... I don't know, I don't remember the details...
When someone says Moon, and other clan names are forbiden: Ahem...MOONFLOWER, RUNNINGWIND MOONSHADOW, AND AMBERMOON (I'm sure there are more)
I assume Moon- and Clan names are forbidden as prefixes but not suffixes, and I think I heard that Moonflower was a mistake. But there's no excuse for the cat Windflight at all. Especially since he's PART WindClan.
@@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 Skywatcher, Shadowsight, Windflight, and others
Elizabeth Moore I commented 3 years ago before Shadowsight was even a kit. So my point is moot.
@@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 okay! Have a nice day!
@@streamtheshapeshiftingfox3659 okay! Have a nice day!
I just started the series, haven’t finished into the wild yet. But I love seeing this types of videos :)
I thought LionFart was AssFur and FernCloudHasTooManyKits' father?
No, Lionheart is CinderPelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart and Thornclaw's dad :3
I always thought of runningwind being the father
I always thought it was Redtail
iM sO cOnFuSeD
When I looked in the wiki not to long ago and Dovewing was .5 years older than Tigerheart
In the 2nd book in the new seires, I think page 45, Twigkit is mistaken for twigpaw..
Fireheart gets to keep the kit he found...su susans suspicious van...it all makes sense now. My mind has been blown
Maybe Brokenstar did kill the kits and Yellowfang thought it was a fox?
You know, I know everything about Warriors because I keep up with chats, read all the books, proofread, and still people don't know anything. Wiki doesnt know anything, they got the story for Yellowfang's Secret wrong, her kits were killed by young age. I do agree with the things you say Moonkitti, I feel all the pain.
Btw Su Susan isn't canon anymore... let's party.
I do really hope they don't put the movie pictures into the wiki, everything would be scrambled up XD
I'm so scared for the movie 😰
Ahh where would wsrroors be without contradictions.. pretty sure the facts page on my site is somehow all not fact anymore.. like how Thunder has three different reasons for his name in......
W S R R O O R S
Another thing:
Dovewing is considered Bumblestripes (formal) mate in the wiki, which is DEFINITELY not true considering she just wanted to be friends with him, and not agreeing to be mates with him.
I don't always agree with your Warriors opinions... But this time I do completely. Especially when it comes to the field guide stuff, since there's so much information there that just plain doesn't add up.
your voice is so cute i'm jealous
but good heirarchy i agree. and great video!
I haven't even watched the video yet but It's a rant video so it's already amazing
Actually, I have a theory: Brokenstar scared a fox after murdering the kits. Problem solved.
I was actually looking at the Warriors website and apparently Graystripe and Longtail are siblings...? I was very confused since they never acknowledged each other as siblings.
YOU TOLD ME YOU NEVER READ YELLOWFANG'S SECRET, GIRL.
Grace things change
Haha, good to know.
"Su Sussan's Suspicious Van" I Get It Now.
Maybe they were killed by a fox during a train lesson to kill foxes
Or learning to defend themselves against foxes by brokenstar getting a fox for them to fight
I don't think apprentinces are forced to fight foxes, but hey maybe i'm wrong
They're not but BrokenStar was insane, let's face that.
Speaking of books getting it wrong, did any of you realize in bramblestar' s storm it said 1. BRAMBLESTAR/CLAW WAD SQUIRRELFLIGHT'S MENTOR, ( dustpelt, who?) 2. When graystripe is moving to the elders den he has this big speech and what not, and he said he was SO PROUD of his daughter, MISTYSTAR/FOOT for becoming leader of riverclan, and wished his son, STONEFUR could see this day, ( like, who are stormfur, feathertail, bluestar, and oakheart anyway?) Anyway I died laughing and was in a fit when reading this book lol
What about incosistencies in the main series?
The thing about the fox killing the kits is that Yellowfang gives no evidence for the fox. Yellowfang thinks that the kits dying is too cruel and rationalizes it as a fox killing the kits, but as Brokenstar says, there isn't much evidence for a fox. I can't remember the exact specifics except that it stood out to me, but I think the sent was stale/faint (or not there at all) and there isn't any fur or anything either. It's a really small thing I noticed, but Yellowfang's Secret doesn't say a fox killed the kits. Go back and reread that scene, the language is very specific about it and not many people catch it. The reason the book leaves us with the foxes as the only culprit is because Yellowfang had no idea it was brokenstar, but she had to think something killed the kits, so she rationalized a fox.
Help I'm lost in all these comments
***** thank
Arcticmoon Jamaa I've found you in this sea of comments
This makes a lot of sense and I will honestly be using it to organize canon in my head 👍🏻 while also shamelessly inserting a few headcanons as well.
Also, your voice is adorable and very enjoyable to listen to.
I made 666 likes turn into 667
Blossoming Story Good job. You're our hero.
0:24 actually Yellowfang thought a fox killed them, but it is later revealed in that book that broken star killed them
make the warrior cats movie
I love this channel, it's like being in a book club and getting split sides with a friend that is funny as hell.
I don't know why su susann is even a thing.
Theory:
The fox attacked the kits.
They were injured.
Brokenstar saved them, then realized that he could use it against Yellowfang.
He then killed the kits.
I don't mean to be rude but, I was wondering about your voice.. were you born like that or did you just not go through puberty?
i mean, born like that and not going through puberty would be around the same thing
Ya i guess so! but you still have not answered my question. Again i dont mean to be rude.. cause... asking that might be a little offensive.
yeah sorry it's kinda personal
ok then, thats fine. i wont ask anymore
+Moonkitti
I like your voice! :3
It's weird because I just read the ultimate guide a second time- on Ashfur's page it tells the truth about how Hollyleaf murdered him, I quote, "It was too great a risk for Hollyleaf, who tracked Ashfur to the stream on the boundary with WindClan and fatally wounded him."
And then on Hollyleaf's page it tells the bullshit story Brambleclaw told ThunderClan. "She didn't mean to kill him- she struck, he slipped, and when he fell into the stream with blood streaming from the wounds in his throat, she knew he was beyond saving."
PICK A LANE, ERINS
Thank you so much for making this and I 100% agree with your order, especially the decision to separate the main series from the super editions. Like you said they're contradictory at points and don't always fit neatly into the events described in the first series. I think they should be seen more as "legends" or "stories" passing on rather than the usual omniscient third person storytelling. Guardians of Ga'Hoole had "prequels" and hell even classics like The Hobbit told stories with an admittedly limited or erroneous writer iirc. Heck they could have run with that premise and given these books an all new style to them. Anyways, great job!
3:42 has so many errors gawd... Mother: Nutmeg like it says below, Father: Jake, and magically only has squirrelkit and left leafkit to die on the last page I guess (jk)
I just imagined the Warrior cats move coming out and Dovewings eyes being blue and everyone screaming at the production team lololollollklol
If I remember correctly, in yellowfangs secret, the kits that she was blamed for killing were her mother’s newest litter...
Here’s my personal head canon for the ash paw and from fern paw stuff: it was dark’stripe who was the father and they weren’t close by the time we saw them in a book and when brindle’face took in cloud’kit that’s when they broke up offscreen and after cloud kit,ash kit and fern kit were Apprenticed, white storm finally took his move and had kids with her. This is my personal head cannon and I think it makes the most sense due to the fact the dark stripe looks like both of them, and could reasonably be their father due to the fact he’s a young Tom that had no mate in his life that we know of.
I read Ravenpaw's Path and I was super confused and bothered when Brambleclaw was referred to as an apprentice, but Squirrelkit and Leafkit were there
1 year aniversary of this. Noice
Me: Takes freshkill
BrambleStar: What are you doing?! You just had a mouse!
Me: Well you see father I-
BrambleStar: COME HERE BOI
For some reason I’m rewatching so many of your videos during quarantine,
But my thoughts on the thistleclaw thing, the only thing I can think would make sense is that Bluestar’s view on Thistle was tempered with age, obviously this only kind of works if you take it in a bubble, but this is a halfassed possible explanation for Bluestar’s feelings about Thistle. Bluefur in the SE is incredibly dramatic and emotional, the whole book is about her dealing with grief and how that made her a not so great person, so her taking thistle WAY too seriously and being HELLA dramatic about how he’s gonna cause the end of the world could work. So her being older and having hindsight in forest of secrets she could be like..huh 20/20 I was pretty paranoid.
Moon! I agree with Butterflyidentity aka Selina! You should write a Warriors Wiki!