How To: Make a Post-Hardcore Song in 6 Min or Less (+ Full Song at the End) || Shady Cicada

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @johnmarques1611
    @johnmarques1611 8 лет назад +275

    This reminds me so much of early escape the fate

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +52

      That was definitely one of the references I used when trying to get a refresh on the genre :)

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 7 лет назад +22

      kinda sad that this kind of post-hardcore doesn't exist anymore. Most post-hardcore bands have transitioned into metalcore.

    • @Odie50000
      @Odie50000 7 лет назад +6

      blackknightkanos Dance Gavin Dance tho.

    • @audkyrie
      @audkyrie 7 лет назад +3

      blackknightkanos Stolas G, modern post hxc is still good especially the stuff off of Blue Swan Records

    • @EthanRom
      @EthanRom 7 лет назад +3

      really you still consider them post hardcore? I like them tho :))

  • @Shadycicada
    @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +200

    Tuning is Drop C (CGCFAD) for those asking!

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 8 лет назад +6

      Good job !
      I have 2 questions to you )
      1.What is an effect at the start of this song ?
      ( fade in + eq shift ? )
      2. What do you do when you just cant finish the song ?
      ( for example im working on a song , 3\4 got intro,main riff,2-d riff and just stuck )
      your suggestions ?

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +17

      Hey man! For the effect, I had a separate master track with the mids solo'd out on the eq. I slowly had it fade out while the main master track faded in.
      When I can't finish a song, I might loop a part of it and try to come up with new leads over it. If I find something I like, I'll usually get an idea on how to structure the rest of the song and come up with new material. If not, I might even take a break and come back to it later. Don't try to force it, but experiment a little. Even playing around with an instrument you're not familiar with can help. Hope that helped! :)

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 8 лет назад

      Thanks !

    • @AxLZ1
      @AxLZ1 8 лет назад +4

      Can I use drop d for similar results?

    • @OrestGarasum
      @OrestGarasum 8 лет назад +2

      ***** Many PHC Bands use drop D, C#, C, B tunings , so yes you can )

  • @teppizini
    @teppizini 7 лет назад +27

    no matter how many times I go back and rewatch this I can never get over how totally badass this song is. that chorus is SO killer!!!!

  • @corgioverlord2464
    @corgioverlord2464 7 лет назад +91

    Damn it now i'm addicted to the example song, it's sooo good

  • @ProjectGenesisMusic
    @ProjectGenesisMusic 8 лет назад +70

    Fucking love this! Punk and Hardcore have always been my biggest influences playing guitar and post hardcore has been a big influence on me the past 6 years.

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +9

      Hey dude! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's a good mix of influences as well :D

  • @underath7776
    @underath7776 7 лет назад +13

    that melodic metalcore riff at 3:45 - 4:05 always playing on my mind anytime 😅

  • @Daelitegamer
    @Daelitegamer 3 года назад +11

    The fact this is a tutorial and it produced easily not only a top post hardcore song for me, but honestly, a top all time for my list. Absolutely insane.

  • @AHmusic
    @AHmusic 8 лет назад +42

    Dude the song was so catchy and awesome!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +1

      Hey dude! Thanks so much :D I'm glad you liked it!

  • @RKfromPartsUnknown
    @RKfromPartsUnknown 6 лет назад +8

    This How-To's song "The Rise" gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it. It's calm...yet it has this brooding thing about it.

  • @cinnaminion1351
    @cinnaminion1351 8 лет назад +19

    love these how to videos. i sometimes rewatch them all when I'm writing stuff for my band xD

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +6

      Oh damn, that's awesome! I'm glad you enjoy them, bud!

  • @Kellen0102
    @Kellen0102 7 лет назад +10

    you should do a video on these "emotional" and melodic chords and how to play them

  • @Gaothdusk
    @Gaothdusk 8 лет назад +235

    Sounds like an anime opening. That's a good thing btw

    • @kevinpardo8046
      @kevinpardo8046 7 лет назад +6

      Lily I read that in Mario's voice

    • @DeviousKid45
      @DeviousKid45 4 года назад +1

      ew

    • @old3dn18
      @old3dn18 2 года назад +1

      Ikr

    • @numburger
      @numburger Год назад +1

      I'm not a fan of that general kind of "anime op" type sound but bc it's Shady, I'm willing to blow it off

  • @GramGramAnimations
    @GramGramAnimations 8 лет назад +64

    Always love these how to's. Next up: How to Make an Anime Intro!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +25

      I'm glad you enjoy them! I will definitely give that one a shot sometime, seeing as I'm currently writing anime music for a certain *cough cough* project *cough cough*

    • @maxd11111
      @maxd11111 7 лет назад

      couldn't tell if this comment was meme or not lol

    • @Josh-it6uy
      @Josh-it6uy 7 лет назад +5

      Anime was a mistake.

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 7 лет назад +5

      Josh Nice overdone meme m8 👍

    • @andetius
      @andetius 7 лет назад +2

      Fake Name too bad its serious..

  • @balicuda
    @balicuda 7 лет назад +3

    This video brings back all the genuine, overwhelming appreciation i had for post-hardcore when i was 16. feeling so many feels right now. thank you for this ;^;

  • @tizianofratini7407
    @tizianofratini7407 8 лет назад +160

    what about Prog Metal? that'd be a challenge for you

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +43

      I would love to give that a shot sometime!

    • @tizianofratini7407
      @tizianofratini7407 8 лет назад +5

      And I'd love to see it

    • @lorenzosarli2310
      @lorenzosarli2310 7 лет назад +1

      was just gonna suggest that! :) GO FOR IT GUYS!!!

    • @Lure_Music
      @Lure_Music 7 лет назад

      I was searching for some prog in you channel, too ^^

    • @batty213
      @batty213 7 лет назад +2

      Not really my style but all these "how to" videos have made you one of my favorite channels on RUclips :) rock on brother :)

  • @pietromoroni
    @pietromoroni 8 лет назад +2

    Watching you two playing is one of the most exciting things ever! Keep it up!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +1

      Thanks a lot, bud. It really is a lot of fun jamming out together, and we look forward to doing it many times more. So we will definitely keep it up!

  • @tysonreesmusic
    @tysonreesmusic 8 лет назад +37

    Man I would love some more in depth 'how to's' stuff from you guys! As a noob just saying "Play sweet rhythm with lead!" doesn't help me much :(

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +21

      I will be making tutorials eventually when I get the chance :) I don't really know any music theory, but if I find a proper way to explain myself, I will definitely be making some!

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat 8 лет назад +65

    1:16 "Will you miss me when I'm goooooooone" #theamityaffliction

    • @Cymoar
      @Cymoar 5 лет назад

      Fairy C Rat yooooo love that song

  • @apollothe1a192
    @apollothe1a192 6 лет назад +1

    Dude I can’t tell you why but when you guys started shredding I got emotional lol. Caught a lump in my throat

  • @DacianGradaMusic
    @DacianGradaMusic 8 лет назад +4

    Man, you always say to not take these too seriously, but I think they're legit songs, catchy and awesome! I'd totally buy an album with these. *hint hint*

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +2

      Ah man, thanks a lot, dude! I'm really happy you dig them :) Despite the comedy side, I really do try to make the songs catchy/enjoyable. So I'm glad people can get into them!

  • @samsloot
    @samsloot 8 лет назад +5

    Would be great of you would tab out those song examples man! I know that i'm not the only one who'd appreciatie that!

  • @COYM_1908
    @COYM_1908 7 лет назад

    The most underrated channel on youtube.

  • @St33zy-P
    @St33zy-P 7 лет назад

    Was expecting a pierce the veil vibe but this is equivalent to that, keep this up man!

  • @adamrafieljuanil4085
    @adamrafieljuanil4085 7 лет назад +6

    Sounds like a theme song for an epic final battle in a video game.

  • @christopherfairchild2185
    @christopherfairchild2185 7 лет назад

    First video of yours that i'vr seen. I subscribed within the first minute and I hit that stupid bell shortly after. This would be so fun to add vocals to!

  • @felixstuemke4164
    @felixstuemke4164 8 лет назад +1

    nice video!!! really sounds like old escape the fate stuff

  • @tylerhoffman4037
    @tylerhoffman4037 5 лет назад

    I just want to say after all this time this still rocks in my Spotify playlist. Cheers from 2019

  • @jamieso7
    @jamieso7 8 лет назад

    These videos are brilliant dude, the format and layout is fun and easy to follow. Mega-talented!!?

  • @yayayyayayayayayayup5476
    @yayayyayayayayayayup5476 8 лет назад +1

    the lead parts are actually reminds me of BlessTheFall! anyways you're sick as always man!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +1

      Thanks a lot, bud! I haven't listened to BTF in forever, but I was pretty into them back in the day :)

    • @yayayyayayayayayayup5476
      @yayayyayayayayayayup5476 8 лет назад

      +Shady Cicada Cool man! im glad that you're into them back in the day haha i just wondering if you can make a tutorial of how to create a song like CHON? that would be awesome man!

  • @sgbhawkman6649
    @sgbhawkman6649 8 лет назад

    By far my favorite one to date! Keep rocking man!

  • @nunolance23
    @nunolance23 7 лет назад

    Having some real fun watching your "How to" series, and I guess I'm your 19.000th subscriber! Have a great day :D

    • @nunolance23
      @nunolance23 2 года назад

      came back to this video after 5 years and you have 300k subs more! your channel got huge! congrats man!!

  • @lillydalliesaboutthings
    @lillydalliesaboutthings 8 лет назад +69

    this didn't sound like the type of post hardcore I like. This like 2010's post hardcore. I would have expected it to be more like at the drive in. But the video was good. That's what matters.

    • @elk3407
      @elk3407 7 лет назад +3

      Nontree11 This didn't even sound hardcore. I miss bands like I Create.

    • @audkyrie
      @audkyrie 7 лет назад

      its all good g's

    • @desolatesoul2304
      @desolatesoul2304 6 лет назад +13

      FOR THOSE OF YOU OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER, this sounds a lot like 2005'ish bands that I used to listen to. It is Post-Hardcore; especially in the Calif. scene.

    • @MayonnaiseOreo
      @MayonnaiseOreo 6 лет назад

      Check out the first album from Secret Lives of the Freemasons. The one with the really shitty album cover. One of the best in the genre. There's also Goodnight Alchemy from Trophy Scars.

    • @dwreck
      @dwreck 6 лет назад +3

      reminded me of odd project. you had posthardcore and in about 2002 2003 it got morphed into few things. thursday, saosin, from autumn to ashes, norma jean, poison the well, thrice. well a little while after... we wanted to throw our metalcore metal influences into it and you got songs that sounded like this. Chiodos did this style really well... I was hoping for a good ol fashion tremelo breakdown with minor 2nds. a la dillinger escape plan or botch.

  • @alexsurh1472
    @alexsurh1472 8 лет назад

    You guys are inspiration! Thanks for existing!

  • @drewcaudill8393
    @drewcaudill8393 7 лет назад

    You broke that down really good and made a really awesome song. Nice job my doods

  • @corgioverlord2464
    @corgioverlord2464 7 лет назад +5

    Best tutorial i've ever seen tbh

  • @dragonkitty7519
    @dragonkitty7519 6 лет назад

    I spent a good couple of minutes looking for this song and I finally found it! I love it :)

  • @purple2cheeseburger
    @purple2cheeseburger 7 лет назад

    Same dude from Part 2. Same question as before. Same love for your prodigal music talent.

  • @MrLeviathan34
    @MrLeviathan34 7 лет назад +140

    "How to be 2008-era Silverstein"

    • @hakongray
      @hakongray 7 лет назад +1

      Andy Frey It kinda reminds me of the theme going in the album "Death dealers" by adept, and its soooooo pretty!!!!!

  • @dmpunk
    @dmpunk 8 лет назад +1

    10 second in and I know this will be one of the best things I've ever heard!

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад

      Aw man, you're too kind. Thank you very much!

  • @TheDutchDemon010
    @TheDutchDemon010 7 лет назад

    got goosebumps nice dudes keep up the good work :)
    i learn alot thanks to you guys
    greetings from holland !!!

  • @reyla3132
    @reyla3132 7 лет назад

    OMFG THIS IS SO GORGEROUS
    IM IN LOVE WITH THIS SONG

  • @Instate_dnb
    @Instate_dnb 8 лет назад +1

    please put these examples up to download! some of the most beautiful instrumentals I've heard!

  • @travisnelson4035
    @travisnelson4035 8 лет назад +8

    You make everything look and sound so easy! Props to you, brother.

  • @stevenlicatesi9453
    @stevenlicatesi9453 7 лет назад

    Loving these videos guys! love the vibe and skill. \m/

  • @hyperdazedesu7350
    @hyperdazedesu7350 7 лет назад +7

    love to see you do a How To: Math Rock

  • @LouieNJ
    @LouieNJ 7 лет назад +10

    If this had "clean interlude/verse picking" it would basically be old school Saosin.

    • @the.negative
      @the.negative 5 лет назад +1

      This IS old school Saosin lol

  • @kionmahuermicio9860
    @kionmahuermicio9860 7 лет назад +3

    0:49 sounds like *"One night and one more time
    Thanks for the memories even though they weren't"*

  • @N8sLaxLife
    @N8sLaxLife 7 лет назад +1

    I love how after using this as inspiration to rewrite one of my old songs, I made something awesome. I hate how after searching Post Hardcore on Apple Music to get more inspiration literally the first song I listen to (Tears Don't Fall by Bullet For My Valentine), I ended up writing something in the same key, tempo, and using the same notes for some parts. Ah, music.

  • @albert7830
    @albert7830 8 лет назад

    dude i love these kind of videos! :D

  • @Twizzlahs
    @Twizzlahs 7 лет назад

    These videos help me learn a lot more than might be expected lol

  • @karolsomething7143
    @karolsomething7143 7 лет назад

    Just what I was looking for! Damn it! you guys are awesome.

  • @chrislopez9997
    @chrislopez9997 7 лет назад

    Fantastic composition skills

  • @gabocarina96
    @gabocarina96 8 лет назад

    Bro!! I love this! :D Love them How To videos! ^^

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад

      Thanks so much, man! I'm glad you dig them! :D (we gotta play some games or skype sometime soon)

  • @ksatriabajahitam1140
    @ksatriabajahitam1140 7 лет назад

    this is A BIG HELP for me , thanks guys

  • @yanlatawiec7519
    @yanlatawiec7519 7 лет назад

    they are actually sick at making songs, keep it up

  • @tigrederd
    @tigrederd 7 лет назад

    Dude thank you for this series!

  • @lackey2954
    @lackey2954 8 лет назад

    This was great man! I love the song! :)

    • @Shadycicada
      @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +1

      Dude! Thanks so much, buddy :) Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @blackburst2751
    @blackburst2751 7 лет назад

    this is very very very great man!!! keep it up!

  • @IvanShlyk
    @IvanShlyk 7 лет назад +4

    wow this song is really good

  • @dragonoid510
    @dragonoid510 7 лет назад

    I just am in love with that chorus
    TBH this sounds perfect for an anime op

  • @Taylor74b
    @Taylor74b 6 лет назад +2

    THIS GIVES ME INSPIRATION AGAIN!!!!

  • @kirakirai8321
    @kirakirai8321 7 лет назад

    sick, you guys are sick as hell! love ur videos

  • @coopza
    @coopza 7 лет назад

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @brendanbagwell
    @brendanbagwell 7 лет назад +2

    I caught that Punk-O-Matic riff in there ;)

  • @thecampfire4877
    @thecampfire4877 7 лет назад +1

    That sounds frickin amazing!

  • @EdizOnFire
    @EdizOnFire 7 лет назад +16

    I really want a tab for this ;-;

  • @UncertainSound
    @UncertainSound 8 лет назад +3

    This was awesome!

  • @resemble6596
    @resemble6596 2 года назад

    This goes to my playlist brother :> make more pleaseee💯

  • @Shale555666
    @Shale555666 7 лет назад

    Just like an anime opening. :D Cool bro! Give us some more! :D

  • @LEWDBD
    @LEWDBD 7 лет назад

    i love your music dude, do something with your talent you are so good

  • @nou.5822
    @nou.5822 2 года назад

    Reminds me a lot of Fear, and Loathing in Las Vegas. Sounds very good!

  • @az1m3th
    @az1m3th 8 лет назад

    Can't wait for those tabs to be released... hopefully in .GPX format and with drums to play to!

  • @derrfair
    @derrfair 10 месяцев назад

    We need more people doing post hardcore, its an amazing genre

  • @b3yourself91
    @b3yourself91 8 лет назад +6

    Do a how to make Power metal!

  • @niteshademusic5262
    @niteshademusic5262 7 лет назад

    i love your tunes man

  • @jaekdoe3029
    @jaekdoe3029 7 лет назад

    That chorus honestly is beautiful

  • @mrfender5001
    @mrfender5001 5 лет назад

    Plz do a tutorial on how you record your guitar tracks!! Like plug-ins if you use any amp Sims or pedals. How you mix, quad tracks? Panning, how you EQ and compress and how you master!! Plz Plz do a video on it!!

  • @DaJerseyJunkie
    @DaJerseyJunkie 2 года назад

    This is the best kind of music I don’t care what anybody says.

  • @professorreligion
    @professorreligion 2 года назад +1

    So, I know which power chords I’m playing in Drop C tuning (C5, C5#, and D5#). Does this mean I’m in the key of C since C is the first power chord? How do I know which minor scales do I use? Do I use the scales dependent on the notes in the progression? I need some clarification 😅

  • @deangoff4748
    @deangoff4748 7 лет назад

    This is actually really good

  • @guitarist4life00
    @guitarist4life00 8 лет назад

    killer work man

  • @Andrian.Nilsen
    @Andrian.Nilsen 6 лет назад

    This makes me so happy! ^^

  • @michaelroberge4400
    @michaelroberge4400 4 года назад

    Sick riffs dude

  • @SenseiIceman
    @SenseiIceman 2 года назад

    Subtle hint of rise against this is so great

  • @shanetrain90
    @shanetrain90 8 лет назад

    I know this is weird but the second part of the intro riff reminds me of "We Didn't Start The Fire" by Billy Joel Lol. You guys killed it great job! Rock On \m/

  • @wonderlandartwork3579
    @wonderlandartwork3579 6 лет назад

    Haven't listened to the vocal version yet but in my head the first part of the chorus goes something like "There will be no tomorrow if we don't rise today"
    or sth like that idunno

  • @xMasterxRazorx
    @xMasterxRazorx 5 лет назад

    This video explains why I love this genre

  • @juliodefreitas157
    @juliodefreitas157 2 года назад

    Absolutely awesome 💙👍

  • @RaycerkGamer
    @RaycerkGamer 8 лет назад

    Loving the original songs like always :)

    • @FightingFish93
      @FightingFish93 8 лет назад

      Can you tell me the Original Songs please? I really want to know them :)

    • @RaycerkGamer
      @RaycerkGamer 8 лет назад

      Checks the videos in the channel, are every one that has the "How to: Make a ..."

    • @bikinipuncake724
      @bikinipuncake724 8 лет назад

      Dennis Hohmann It has a link to their band camp to buy it from. They make these songs themselves, this isn't from any popular band or anything.

  • @Shadycicada
    @Shadycicada  8 лет назад +65

    I have no puns. LATE FOR A MEETING. Hope you guys enjoy this one! It was a load of fun to make. Full song example starts at 2:07! The next "How-To" will be coming soon! Along with some other things involving.......*cough cough* an album and tabs *cough cough* *P.S* New cover coming this Saturday as well! *P.P.S* That feel when you forget to put the word "seriously" in the intro. 10/10

  • @Lexotoo
    @Lexotoo 7 лет назад

    wow, thats really amazing. Loved the tune. Any possibility to get this song on my playlist?

  • @dethkok3869
    @dethkok3869 6 лет назад

    your songs sound like anime openings and i love them

  • @FedWhy
    @FedWhy 7 лет назад

    great video dude. this sound like escape the fate (Y)

  • @Th3M4nuc9
    @Th3M4nuc9 8 лет назад +5

    With wich programm do you record the guitars?

    • @hernanwindholz6739
      @hernanwindholz6739 7 лет назад

      i think i saw Cubase o something very similar in other video

  • @kuchi214
    @kuchi214 7 лет назад

    my kind of music. subscribed

  • @kabztube
    @kabztube 7 лет назад

    nice playing and writing!

  • @desolatesoul2304
    @desolatesoul2304 8 лет назад

    Aww, great little tutorial. Thanks!

  • @booney5000
    @booney5000 7 лет назад +2

    Are you using superior drummer or ez drummer?

  • @stseraf
    @stseraf 7 лет назад

    i think part of lead these things show go to vocals, anyway outstanding work, thanks guys, looking forward to your djent song

  • @Ian-Threaded
    @Ian-Threaded 8 лет назад

    This is beautiful