2021 Toyota Supra vs 1994 Toyota Supra // JDM Legends Face Off

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2020
  • This is the new 2021 Toyota Supra, and it costs $67,690 CAD. Strangely, so does the old MKIV from 1994. Both share a name, but do both deserve the same reputation? Considering that there are 27 years between these two, can the old one stack up, and can the new one continue the legacy? James and Thomas jump behind the wheel of both to experience them and discuss them inside and out. Watch and enjoy!
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Комментарии • 3,7 тыс.

  • @TrevForPresident
    @TrevForPresident 3 года назад +3374

    Pros: the old one won’t depreciate. Cons: you can’t find the old one.

    • @ttfcars
      @ttfcars 3 года назад +7

      I know a guy 😁 ruclips.net/video/Op4JWf25uus/видео.html

    • @JacesOwnWorld
      @JacesOwnWorld 3 года назад +72

      What are you talking about? There’s a bunch of them on auto trader all the time, even right now.

    • @Kzuke
      @Kzuke 3 года назад +66

      @@JacesOwnWorld There were only about 4,000 twin-turbo 6-speed LHDs sold in the U.S., which are the really valuable ones. The rest are naturally aspirated models or JDM RHD imports.

    • @allenrodriguez4255
      @allenrodriguez4255 3 года назад +27

      Their ia tons of old.supras their just expensive most costing. More than the new one

    • @CPAJayhawk
      @CPAJayhawk 3 года назад +7

      They could certainly lose value, so same difference as depreciation

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 3 года назад +2549

    Congrat to the owner of the original Supra - great closing statement! 👍

    • @alom1807
      @alom1807 3 года назад +42

      Very honest and true

    • @MikeVista15
      @MikeVista15 3 года назад +70

      it resonated in my head so much... im off to window shop

    • @bogotstogoskiing
      @bogotstogoskiing 3 года назад +32

      That's how I feel about my Land Cruiser. Even if I was Zuckerberg rich my 1989 FJ62 would be the one I'm always looking at.

    • @nolawhipsswhipss7416
      @nolawhipsswhipss7416 3 года назад +18

      Loved that closing statement.

    • @victormadera8965
      @victormadera8965 3 года назад +11

      That’s not the original

  • @user-mx1fq6qm6i
    @user-mx1fq6qm6i 3 года назад +170

    The mk5 is such a Toyota move and I love it.
    People say that they wanted to see an entirely bespoke Supra, but they won't really buy a supra for 130000$

    • @mrsoisauce9017
      @mrsoisauce9017 2 года назад +13

      Honestly tho, I feel like it could have been just a little bit more Toyota. I get the money argument. I’m not arguing against it. But still, they could have at least developed their own engine. Or they could have made the interior cheaper and given the damn thing a manual so they could lower the starting price. They could have done a lot of things they didn’t do. Besides, the cost of development argument isn’t as good when we scale it against what was arguably the car of 2020. The Corvette C8 went mid engine, and it turned up a profit. The damn thing had 2 get a new platform, completely reworked engineering, and different materials, and after all of that, it STILL managed 2 maintain its absolute bargain of a price. Toyota is a much bigger company than GM is. What’s 2 say they couldn’t make a Supra completely in-house and still make a profit at a fair price point? Because rite now, Nissan has absolutely embarrassed Toyota with the Z. And I no, it’s unfair 2 compare the 2, given that the Z had a platform that was perfectly useable. But the point of the car was 2 hit Toyota where it hurt, and that they did. The Supra was inspired by Supras of old, but the Z was more inspired by old Zs than the Supra was inspired by old Supras. And it’s a shame 2, since Toyota knows how 2 make a good driver’s car. Just look at the GR Yaris. It took a boring and run of the mill car and turned it into a little pocket rocket that feels more like an Integra than the new Integra will probably feel like, because that’s what it is. It’s Toyota’s Integra, and it’s incredible 4 it. I feel like the Supra, while well intentioned, missed the mark because it didn’t FEEL like a Supra. It’s still a good car, don’t get me wrong. But it doesn’t feel like a Supra. Perhaps a next generation, modernized 2JZ would have fixed things up a little. Perhaps it needed a little bit more. Who knows

    • @scoot5642
      @scoot5642 Год назад +13

      @@mrsoisauce9017 eh. no one really buys sport cars from toyota tho. sure there’s always someone but for the most part, very little. lexus rcf, terrible sale. lexus lc, an amazing car, very low sale. even the legendary lfa had a hard time selling at first. all of those are are priced similarly to the original supra as well…with a lexus badge. makes you wonder how much nissan get we would see if they priced it around 40-60k

    • @JasRoss
      @JasRoss Год назад +14

      To be fair, a mid-90s MKIV Supra would be nearly $100k in inflation adjusted dollars to 2022. They were fairly expensive for their time.

    • @oskartross8459
      @oskartross8459 10 месяцев назад +1

      1994 supra had only few competitors back in time and it was Toyota. Today there is heaps competitors for new Supra and much better price and faster too

    • @franchu6973
      @franchu6973 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KaxziJJ If u wont gonna argue and just say no sense stuff why u do u even take ur time to comment?

  • @tycphotography
    @tycphotography 3 года назад +21

    The closing statement hits the soul for MKIV owners. You'd have to own one to know how true this statement was.

  • @Siyadlams
    @Siyadlams 3 года назад +1858

    “Shows the key and says, ‘I own it’”. That right there is priceless 👌

    • @radiotrin37
      @radiotrin37 3 года назад +59

      My favorite line of the entire video!

    • @HaylonHarroo87
      @HaylonHarroo87 3 года назад +7

      @@radiotrin37 for real

    • @alwaysbroke6533
      @alwaysbroke6533 2 года назад +10

      @@sly9263 Supra isn't my dream car, but I get it. I honestly don't like the look of 911s. People are allowed to have smaller dreams

    • @adrianunisa
      @adrianunisa Год назад

      Truly. 🫡

    • @matsum2332
      @matsum2332 Год назад +2

      what a nice line indeed

  • @chrisondrovic3106
    @chrisondrovic3106 3 года назад +606

    '...Showed us his keys and said "I own it."'
    If that's not the truest statement I've ever heard.

    • @peemot007
      @peemot007 3 года назад +30

      The perfect closer to video 😎

    • @julianpeteryun
      @julianpeteryun 3 года назад +36

      Haha that was awesome. I felt the “feels.”

    • @thivakarsaravanamuthu4744
      @thivakarsaravanamuthu4744 3 года назад +7

      True

    • @Nonameman0001
      @Nonameman0001 3 года назад +29

      @@julianpeteryun Omg me too. I felt so warm inside when I heard that statement finish. The mk4 truly is a car worthy of being that "dream car".

    • @ishoui_6519
      @ishoui_6519 3 года назад +3

      By the way supra 2020 it's the same 2021
      Don't believe the company only advertised

  • @tylerratcliff
    @tylerratcliff 3 месяца назад +3

    The outro of the video summed up the main difference perfectly and is exactly what makes a car special or timeless.

  • @itsamemario8345
    @itsamemario8345 2 года назад +6

    Growing up in the 90s I have a soft spot for that era of cars, something more visceral to them.
    I've only ever owned American performance cars...Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes. I am awaiting delivery of the Supra this week. I wanted to get out of my comfort zone and try something different and I loved the car in the little time I had with it.
    Great video guys.

  • @Boosted94Supra
    @Boosted94Supra 3 года назад +2585

    Hey! I'm the original NA owner of that 94 Supra. I brought it into Canada from Japan in 2010 and still have a good amount of the original paperwork and parts. So happy to see it again, reach out if you'd like!

    • @NewHaven203
      @NewHaven203 3 года назад +51

      Where do you stay at? Toronto? I hope to see it one day if you’re around Toronto

    • @StarkVandalez
      @StarkVandalez 3 года назад +81

      saw it for sale now. Wish I had $50k to buy it. Its a beauty!

    • @faisal0471
      @faisal0471 3 года назад +31

      It is now up for sale for 62K in Barrie!

    • @davis7323
      @davis7323 3 года назад +40

      Shame that due to Japan's regulations, the version from Japan had smaller turbos and it pushed out only 270ish HP, the USDM one makes 320hp. Eitherway, easy fix =) Original supra has the best sound and was designed way ahead of its time. 1994 and looks BEAUTIFUL still.

    • @Sak-zo1ui
      @Sak-zo1ui 3 года назад +10

      @@davis7323 it was pretty much built for the 90s. I dont know everything about them but what I have heard is they are pretty much a 90s car. Similar to some of the porche cars from the 50s when they used brand new fiber glass. They were not really ahead of their time but they were writing their own story.

  • @nourishaaya2497
    @nourishaaya2497 3 года назад +850

    If Jdm legends doesn’t become a real game I’m suing

  • @bentleymccray1599
    @bentleymccray1599 2 года назад +12

    I have been following you guys for awhile with your shows growing on me more lately. You've two have become one of my favorite reviewers. Now that I just saw you have a beagle, you're right there near the top. Keep up the good work guys!

  • @calum9250
    @calum9250 3 года назад +3

    the intro made me smile so much - nicely done lads your content is fantastic!

  • @Surfnboy
    @Surfnboy 3 года назад +3184

    Always so creative with those intros LOL

    • @Errhhk
      @Errhhk 3 года назад +11

      Shut up

    • @saud..-
      @saud..- 3 года назад +18

      Erhhk why are u mad???

    • @MJT-DA
      @MJT-DA 3 года назад +6

      Whys everyone hating on this guy?

    • @smiles1151
      @smiles1151 3 года назад +3

      🤣

    • @GodKing804
      @GodKing804 3 года назад +2

      Its gonna run out eventually, but hopefully not

  • @jannu422
    @jannu422 3 года назад +637

    You've both finished comparing the old and new GTRs and Supras now, NSX next?

    • @caglioso
      @caglioso 3 года назад +58

      NSX would be dope

    • @paddywiggle
      @paddywiggle 3 года назад +25

      I think the GTRs and Supras have more in common than the old and new NSX

    • @cameronfell4415
      @cameronfell4415 3 года назад +4

      Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! I'm down to see that Any day!

    • @DroopyLoops
      @DroopyLoops 3 года назад +11

      Ohh for Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. They should have a review showing which company has evolved better!

    • @noxsura4658
      @noxsura4658 3 года назад +23

      We need to compare RX7's... oh wait :(

  • @hussel-m3780
    @hussel-m3780 3 года назад +3

    The outro ending line... perfect delivery and closing summary 👌🏼

  • @mr.hernandezdrives
    @mr.hernandezdrives 2 года назад +30

    The ending sentence was super deep guys.. love this episode, I would go for the old Supra, that is what the name Supra epitomizes

    • @darcos7535
      @darcos7535 2 года назад +2

      Had me in tears over a car! How lame is that.

  • @shanjiivnambiar2921
    @shanjiivnambiar2921 3 года назад +242

    What the supra onwer said is enough to make a grown man cry

  • @shohelahmed8471
    @shohelahmed8471 3 года назад +319

    That last word from 1994 guy "what is your dream car ? Shows the key i own it"
    After hearing it I got goosebumps
    I tip my hat to him😊

    • @hadesx7354
      @hadesx7354 3 года назад +2

      Once you own a Supra you kind of just fall deeply in love. 😭❤️It's pretty crazy.

    • @M-L-kk8vf
      @M-L-kk8vf 3 года назад +2

      Ok redditor

  • @bradstoybox8811
    @bradstoybox8811 Год назад +2

    Great review guys! I love your approach to reviewing cars and the genuine sense that your commentary isn't heavily scripted. It's also nice to see our lovely Ontario country roads as the backdrop. For me, the Mark IV will always represent what a Supra should be. If you take the badges off the new one it could be the product of almost any modern manufacturer...zero identity! Sad actually..:(

  • @gracefigureo314
    @gracefigureo314 3 года назад +5

    Wow when he was taking those hard pulls to 7k rpm I literally felt it through the screen... Spiritual...

  • @JStryker7
    @JStryker7 3 года назад +1442

    The old one is expensive because you can drive it with the windows open

    • @Retalak
      @Retalak 3 года назад +30

      Saw another video where they fixed it with an additional piece in front of the window to direct the air.

    • @TheDailyDriver
      @TheDailyDriver 3 года назад +15

      easily fixed... they have kits that will take care of it for cheap

    • @JStryker7
      @JStryker7 3 года назад +101

      @@TheDailyDriver I know that but it's no excuse for the manufacturer to not fix a massive flaw

    • @WildKarrade
      @WildKarrade 3 года назад +25

      Honestly I have yet to drive a sports car under 100k that doesn't have the buffeting issue. No idea why everyone complains about it all the time, it's kinda the territory of a sports car. I'm not driving a luxury Audi or Mercedes.

    • @JStryker7
      @JStryker7 3 года назад +29

      @@WildKarrade I have yet to drive one that does. I'm not sure you really understand this. It's not comparable to a 4 door with a rear window open. This is a 2 door that you can't roll down the windows in. I've never had the problem that this car faces.

  • @BLESSED-ODM
    @BLESSED-ODM 3 года назад +260

    Am I the only one who rush in anticipation of them drag racing these cars🤔

    • @2tp223
      @2tp223 3 года назад +3

      No you arent 😔

    • @mitch9421
      @mitch9421 3 года назад +44

      The new one would walk the old one, no contest lol

    • @CSOCSO
      @CSOCSO 3 года назад +25

      @@mitch9421 yep. new one would beat the old one in every way. drag or track.

    • @B3ARDOWNPROD
      @B3ARDOWNPROD 3 года назад +2

      Nope

    • @tomraymond9795
      @tomraymond9795 3 года назад +13

      it's obvious how that would go.
      Would be more interested in a tuned mkIV vs new model track test

  • @Bacciagalupe
    @Bacciagalupe Год назад +1

    James, that outro sums it up perfectly. Yous are the best

  • @emancebo13
    @emancebo13 Год назад +1

    Now we need an Integra face-off! Thanks for the good content as always 👌🏽

  • @TMK264
    @TMK264 3 года назад +276

    Your content is unmatched and you have the best intros in the game - period. WOW!

    • @eyadhossam8108
      @eyadhossam8108 3 года назад

      Did u forget " i am yuri, i am jacob, and we re going for a drive " or " THIS IS THE 1994 TOYOTA SUPRA "

    • @DavisBrendon29
      @DavisBrendon29 3 года назад +2

      eyad Hossam TheStraightPipes doesn’t even compare.

    • @TheGreatNoob123
      @TheGreatNoob123 3 года назад +2

      @@eyadhossam8108 The StraightPipes are a joke. They have a limited vocabulary of good, and okay. They just call specs of the car they're "reviewing" as if off a paper. There's no emotion or connection of the car they cover. And one of them can't stop jerking off over his Prowler in every video.

  • @goosejuice8057
    @goosejuice8057 3 года назад +1118

    I'm glad that everyone is still ignoring the mk3, I need those prices low for when I buy my obtainable dream car

    • @senzar9970
      @senzar9970 3 года назад +13

      Psssst

    • @Kzuke
      @Kzuke 3 года назад +46

      It's an underappreciated car, except for the head gasket issue. I had a black '87 and loved it. Super comfortable highway cruiser with a handsome profile.

    • @vjabonador1067
      @vjabonador1067 3 года назад +51

      The 1JZ and 7M are still great engines. They're no 2JZ but they still produce a respectable amount of power, even by today's standards. Enthusiasts mainly put them down since they're not as tunable as the 2JZ but if you don't get too crazy with the power mods and keep up the maintenance, they still make for good performance engines.

    • @fuzzytheblueracer6133
      @fuzzytheblueracer6133 3 года назад +44

      all old supras was good
      mk5 piece of trash

    • @hondaCivic_hatch
      @hondaCivic_hatch 3 года назад +11

      I want a mk2, still pretty cheap

  • @CharlesBurnsPrime
    @CharlesBurnsPrime 2 года назад +1

    Most attempts at RUclips humor do not work well, but you guys are genuinely funny.

  • @ibizaflu
    @ibizaflu 8 дней назад

    Love the summary, nice job!

  • @sidefx996
    @sidefx996 3 года назад +73

    Thomas' horn impression at 18:03 is impressively spot on

  • @williamsongarrett1
    @williamsongarrett1 3 года назад +126

    I'm sure you've already thought of this but you should absolutely make a video comparing the orininal AE86 to the new AE86/BRZ

    • @ramadhanisme7
      @ramadhanisme7 3 года назад +13

      The new 86 is spiritually a decent one to carry the old 86, if only toyota keep up the corolla badge also since the old one is basically a high performance corolla

    • @carsmusicandclothing7066
      @carsmusicandclothing7066 3 года назад +1

      @@ramadhanisme7 Cant even really says those cars were high performance. They were just made a martyr like every thing else that rolled out of Japan in the 80's and 90's

    • @KR-jg7gc
      @KR-jg7gc 3 года назад +1

      @@carsmusicandclothing7066 lol my thoughts exactly. Nothing really performance about that. In this part of the world the top of the range came with a "twincam" badge which became the Rsi (1997-1999) then the Rxi (2000- 2003).. those were and are still performance daily driver vehicles here. Absolutely our own piece of highly beloved Japanes muscle in the most southern part of africa.. idk if the rest of the world got them or loved them like here.
      The models following only had "sprinter" which meant almost nothing to us 🙄

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад

      The current 86 should always have been considered a revival of the Celica. A performance version of the Corolla would be welcome, Civic Si-like, call that the 86 if you want.

    • @williamsongarrett1
      @williamsongarrett1 3 года назад

      @@nthgth the current 86? There is no Celica at this point in time so what Celica would you be comparing it to? Definitely not the FWD version. I think I don't understand your point here. They are comparing current to past versions of cars in these videos, not different cars

  • @venza2524
    @venza2524 3 года назад

    That end quote with the music and the Supra passing by... I'm not crying you are!

  • @cmsgt4
    @cmsgt4 2 года назад +1

    The last few minutes hit home. Sure I can buy a new car but there is something about my old 90d Toyota that brings joy and experiences I don’t feel like I get out of many modern cars.

  • @pratikrayan6451
    @pratikrayan6451 3 года назад +224

    Last line- That's a line every man dreams of saying.

    • @sbfhawk4343
      @sbfhawk4343 3 года назад +1

      THat is the Goal when they say what is your dream car and you hand over your keys to your CRX, your NSX , and your SUPRA you sir are on high ground. Very priceless why I own just about all of them expect the 911 Turbo S and the newer NSX once complete I am done!!

  • @MatrixDiscovery
    @MatrixDiscovery 3 года назад +136

    The 90's Supra wasn't just a JDM legend, it was a legend period.

    • @KR-jg7gc
      @KR-jg7gc 3 года назад +3

      *is

    • @MikeyA5693
      @MikeyA5693 3 года назад

      @BaTTle CAt still lots of time to create that legend.

    • @adodoes8770
      @adodoes8770 3 года назад +4

      @BaTTle CAt bmw has plenty of legendary cars with legendary engines and the B58 is no joke.

    • @KevinDFuller94
      @KevinDFuller94 2 года назад

      Facts 💯

    • @juanespro3901
      @juanespro3901 2 года назад

      Is THE legend

  • @pantelisellinidis5956
    @pantelisellinidis5956 2 года назад +7

    Thomas when he makes the same BMW joke for the thirty thousand time: I'll f*cking do it again!!!

  • @msgretrogamer
    @msgretrogamer Год назад

    Great video. Can we have more with these old car legends vs newer cars please

  • @MunchKing51
    @MunchKing51 3 года назад +104

    The size of that MK IV 's exhaust is just ridiculous.
    I love it.

  • @3dsmackdown
    @3dsmackdown 3 года назад +55

    Best part of the video is, ask what dream cars they wanted, the 94" owner answer almost brought a tear to my eye.

  • @SamrAutoMoto
    @SamrAutoMoto 2 года назад +5

    "I own it" gave me Goosebumps 😍🔥

  • @NadeemAflah
    @NadeemAflah 3 года назад +1

    one of the most creative intro in a car channel❤️

  • @jaymaster103
    @jaymaster103 3 года назад +66

    You 2 are getting crazy with the intros, I was smiling the whole time. One got to appreciate the hard work y'all put in.

  • @TheBimmerMan
    @TheBimmerMan 3 года назад +170

    ‘Shows keys, I own it’
    Well hope everyone here will get to say that sentence one day...

    • @GameraS2K
      @GameraS2K 3 года назад

      Hard to say that when so many different cars can fit the bill for me, but I own one. That being the S2000

    • @BB-zv8tx
      @BB-zv8tx 3 года назад +1

      lol, I have already made peace with the fact that I'll never be able to say that. Would be nice to have a 288 GTO though. Alternatively, having the entire (celica) supra bloodline would be amazing. I love the Mk3 and the celica supras so much.

  • @Wretched2JZ
    @Wretched2JZ 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ending was “PERFECT” that statement at the end is exactly what I would say.😊

  • @shakethedrummer2351
    @shakethedrummer2351 8 месяцев назад

    Love your videos
    Can you do a old brz vs new?
    In australia we discuss this alot

  • @poultrylord7300
    @poultrylord7300 3 года назад +56

    Was really hoping for the playable characters to include Doug and his GT, or Yuri and his Prowler. Channel crossovers are always sweet.

  • @ivannarvaez367
    @ivannarvaez367 3 года назад +68

    That ending line gave me goosebumps.

  • @luisb3374
    @luisb3374 2 года назад

    I have owned an MKIV Turbo and SE. Really appreciated this video! 👍🙂

  • @duneattack
    @duneattack Год назад

    Excellent Video guys! I appreciate your comparison's, but the quote from the Mk IV owner at the very end of the video pretty much sums it up for me, and I couldn't agree more. The Mk IV is an ICON status car like no other, except maybe the LFA, which you also mentioned in this vid. Isn't it interesting that both these Icons are Toyotas? Can I throw the toyota crown in as well, just to drive my point further?

  • @macbitz
    @macbitz 3 года назад +62

    Congrats to the owner of the original Supra - great closing statement!

  • @masheralive3025
    @masheralive3025 3 года назад +98

    24:18 this is the difference, one is dream, other is just another sports car in sports cars.
    btw waiting for 400z

    • @U--Bravo
      @U--Bravo 3 года назад +8

      In my opinion, the mark 4 is a 90's sportscar, a very good one. But it's still a sports cat

    • @TheFlyingClutchman
      @TheFlyingClutchman 3 года назад +14

      The mk4 was a GT car designed to go against the exotic gt cars from the likes of ferrari and Aston Martin, even the old 8 series from BMW. It wasnt as good as the exotics but it was wayyy cheaper and better value for money. Kind of like buying a mustang gt instead of an m3 is better value for money when it comes to performance but you lose the luxury.

    • @sv52308
      @sv52308 3 года назад +5

      @@U--Bravo Yes it's a very good cat

    • @ramadhanisme7
      @ramadhanisme7 3 года назад +7

      @@U--Bravo in the 90's perspective the a80 supra has the on par performance with the "supercar" but from gt car such as aston martin db, porsche 911, ferrari (i forgot the model) before 575 maranello and that's why many praise it, while it's rival such as gtr or nsx keep up with the supercar class the new supra downgrade it into pathetic sport car that can't keep up with r35 gtr or new nsx and that is why many japanese car enthusiast purist think that this new supra is a blasphemy to the old supra legacy

    • @punishedarmsdealer8763
      @punishedarmsdealer8763 3 года назад +8

      some future offspring of yours will be saying that about the 2021 Toyota Supra; while comparing it to the 2047 Toyota Supra, which is just another soulless sports car in sports cars; can you imagine they did away with steering wheels? you like, neural net the car into corners... meh... Call me a Luddite but sometimes the old ways are better

  • @ziplokk1453
    @ziplokk1453 2 года назад

    I had a 91 BMW 325i back in the mid-90's. Manual transmission. The sound was glorious driving that little car and it was so much fun. Thomas used the term "organic", exactly right, cars then were part of our ecosystem and we connected with them and they with us. The cars now are more distant and disconnected automatons. That's the difference to me and why I prefer the older cars. Like that cheerleader you dated in high school. A good wife is irreplaceable like a decent modern car but, oh the memories....

  • @daveyclapster1631
    @daveyclapster1631 Год назад +3

    Love that he kept it stock and have nothing wrong with that. The only thing is I do think that a lot of the a80 supras legacy and the reason it is so famous is because of its tunability, so I feel like that should always be a part of the difference between old and new.

    • @axel9244
      @axel9244 Год назад +2

      But the thing is the new one is also very tunable, the b58 is probably the best engine to have come out in the last few years and it is known for its tuning capability.

  • @stevegee6529
    @stevegee6529 3 года назад +101

    That 25 year old supra has aged amazingly. Still looks great today

    • @sebyfloristean9514
      @sebyfloristean9514 3 года назад

      Idk what to say but yeah i guess
      Look how good the 2013 rs5 aged

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад

      @@sebyfloristean9514 Audi positively knocked it out of the park from like 2006-2015

    • @sebyfloristean9514
      @sebyfloristean9514 3 года назад

      @@nthgth ies it did
      Old bmw are aging a bit worse but the 2006 3 series coupe looks pretty today
      The r35 aged pretty good but that's more because they still produce it today
      That's the same thing with the 370z hut the z will age better than the r35 in my opinion

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад

      @@sebyfloristean9514 I agree, especially the BMW coupe. In 06 it was the E46 which was nice, but if you meant the next one, E92, that might be my favorite-ever 3 series after the E36.
      They do still make the Q60/G37 right? Still with a manual?

  • @tomycont
    @tomycont 3 года назад +62

    That intro had everything, ... even a guitar solo.

  • @michaelmashburn6068
    @michaelmashburn6068 2 года назад +72

    It's still a damn good looking car after all these years

  • @andrewpittman6380
    @andrewpittman6380 2 года назад

    I love you guys. Brilliant opening!!!

  • @rolygymratnavarro2093
    @rolygymratnavarro2093 3 года назад +46

    Shows us their keys and says... " I own it."
    Best outro ever. No better way to say it. Most people just dont get it, but the mk4 is truly one of the best built cars... ever.

    • @daveowen378
      @daveowen378 3 года назад +9

      Lol. Not even close. Only through rose-tinted fanboii goggles.

    • @nonameyet2205
      @nonameyet2205 3 года назад +4

      @@daveowen378 At stock no, but as a tuner car it is one of the best. Lets see if you can get a 700-800hp on the new supra without changing the internals, the best you can get is probably 400-450hp.

    • @TheStigHCE09
      @TheStigHCE09 3 года назад +12

      @@nonameyet2205 No offense but you really should read up on what the B58 is capable of before you jump to conclusions.

    • @daveowen378
      @daveowen378 3 года назад +2

      @@nonameyet2205 that's already been done, hey.

    • @daveowen378
      @daveowen378 3 года назад +3

      @@nonameyet2205 take the nostalgia goggles off and be objective. 80 was cool, but it wasn't the holy grail.

  • @ibuddie01
    @ibuddie01 3 года назад +32

    The moment you realize it was nearly a 25 minute long video even though it seemed like a 5 minute video lol

  • @HaidarAL
    @HaidarAL 2 месяца назад

    sad thing is you didn’t drag race them. i always wanted to see the speed difference between the stock mk4 against a stock mk5. i hope you do a video about that. besides that your content is great. your channel and Hagerty is the best thing since Top Gear. i really love your content and the connection between you too. It’s very obvious that you 2 are close

  • @arya_moghadam
    @arya_moghadam Год назад +3

    Such a well made video! I honestly think it's a tough decision which Supra is better after noticing what features they both had. They both had their pros and cons (examples: cup holders, fake vents, small storage space).

  • @Silverbullet04
    @Silverbullet04 3 года назад +293

    When comparing the handling of a 25 year old car to a brand new one, you need to take into account the condition of the suspension components and if they've been renewed recently. It's a night and day difference with bushing upgrades, control arm replacements etc. Great point of view nonetheless.

    • @NatVirgo
      @NatVirgo 3 года назад +21

      Also it’s 25 year old technology mint condition or not

    • @nodo7575
      @nodo7575 2 года назад +4

      Also tire compound.

    • @skydive7054
      @skydive7054 Год назад +7

      @@NatVirgo theres cars from the 90's that can clap cars from today

    • @NatVirgo
      @NatVirgo Год назад +3

      @@skydive7054 not stock…

    • @skydive7054
      @skydive7054 Год назад +3

      @@NatVirgo uh, yes? there are many cars from the 90s that are faster than modern cars, STOCK.

  • @theepicricemaker6611
    @theepicricemaker6611 3 года назад +22

    That ending bit, that's what being in love with cars is about.

  • @Nolan320
    @Nolan320 3 года назад +1

    that last line sent chills down my spine

  • @BlAcKkYtTy1998
    @BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 года назад

    damn i have tears in my eyes hearing the last 2 minutes of your video. i bought a mk4 supra myself at the end of last year and i can proudfully say, i reached one if not the biggest lifegoal for me. to own one of these legends that "makes people lose their minds" as you say so beautifully, is just something different. People are going nuts next to me when i ride it on the motorway or come to ask for pictures when they see it in the city, so they can post it in their instagram storys. its just a fantastic feeling to know that you are making peoples days just by the small fact that they saw a SUPRA. that feeling of joy is just one of the most epic and most valuable things i have ever experienced.

    • @massimohack1367
      @massimohack1367 2 года назад +1

      Supra is the most overrated car in the world.

    • @BlAcKkYtTy1998
      @BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 года назад +1

      @@massimohack1367 you're probably right. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a fantastic car and it's the dream of many people owning one. And the same applies to cars like the buggatti veyron and so on. These cars are just as overrated.

    • @massimohack1367
      @massimohack1367 2 года назад

      @@BlAcKkYtTy1998 lol sorry but a veyron isnt overrated.

    • @BlAcKkYtTy1998
      @BlAcKkYtTy1998 2 года назад

      @@massimohack1367 that ugly thing is not overrated for 1 million? Sorry but you have clearly no idea 🤣

    • @massimohack1367
      @massimohack1367 2 года назад

      @@BlAcKkYtTy1998 no it is not. When the car came out it was quite insane.

  • @davidkelley751
    @davidkelley751 3 года назад +31

    That ending about dream cars brought a tear to my eye. Good review guys.
    I love supras, not my dream car, but definitely one of my favorites

  • @bikeman1x11
    @bikeman1x11 3 года назад +208

    94 all the way- 90's japanese cars were awesome- 3000gt Supras integras etc

    • @ViolentMLG
      @ViolentMLG 3 года назад +8

      I owned a 3000GT and it was fantastic. Unreliable? Yes, but that car was so much fun and so awesome to own.

    • @deborahchesser7375
      @deborahchesser7375 3 года назад +2

      @@ViolentMLG and with some mods it’s a monster.

    • @Rahz743
      @Rahz743 3 года назад +12

      300zx

    • @referencechannel996
      @referencechannel996 3 года назад +3

      The 3000 GT was not as good, but superb looks

    • @sean269
      @sean269 3 года назад +2

      3000gt is so underrated you can find manuals for 2000

  • @thelastsignature
    @thelastsignature Год назад +1

    Love you guys. I have to say when I see two guys reviewing a car I can’t even because you guys are the only team I would want to watch! Amazing chemistry so fortunate to have you guys in my feed! Cheers

  • @callumstandish4782
    @callumstandish4782 3 года назад +7

    Them acting out the interior voice over kills me (15:38)

  • @ConnorHammond
    @ConnorHammond 3 года назад +50

    Just imagine this. You have $67k to spend on an exhilarating car. You could choose one that will depreciate the moment it leaves the lot or choose the one that is selling into 6 digit figures already. It's a free or potentially very profitable experience of a legendary car. Take the goddamn legend!

    • @nobody8116
      @nobody8116 3 года назад +26

      @Stephen j Do you realize this is not the 90's anymore... mate?

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад +5

      Plus that one has all three pedals

    • @ziqrsx
      @ziqrsx 3 года назад +2

      @@nthgth theyre making the manual soon jeez can you wait?

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 3 года назад +3

      @@ziqrsx I haven't heard this. You got a source? I thought the car was never getting one.

    • @derekj.tejeda267
      @derekj.tejeda267 3 года назад +12

      I am not in Mark. IV's, the status just kills it for me. I'd go for the Mark. V. I'll leave the 90's Supra for somebody who really wants it.

  • @hogan_bryan
    @hogan_bryan 3 года назад +135

    *Wipes imaginary glasses*
    “Is that a supra!?”
    Lol nice reference.

  • @AceCyberstarGaming
    @AceCyberstarGaming Год назад +1

    Can’t wait for you two to drive & review the new manual a90 Supra

  • @grisa12345
    @grisa12345 Год назад

    I was 16, working as a porter at a Toyota dealership in 1994 when the MKIV was in its heyday. I absolutely loved the car and lusted after it. I have waited patiently… and now will have a manual transmission MKV in my garage in a month. It may not be a “Toyota” but Toyota would not put their badge on it if it didn’t meet their QDR standards. Love the styling, love the speed, and the rare factor is icing on the cake.

  • @ex_sideways3970
    @ex_sideways3970 3 года назад +70

    The intros alone are worth more than a million subs.

  • @BMWROYAL
    @BMWROYAL 3 года назад +78

    10:20 thank you for mentioning the fake vents, I’ve seen so many mk5 fanboys defending them saying it’s easily removable when it’s clearly not

    • @standopowah
      @standopowah 3 года назад +10

      Ong zupra fanboys are more cancerous than a80 fanboys. They know the mk5 is a beemer so they falsely say the mk4 is a yamaha lmaooo

    • @daveowen378
      @daveowen378 3 года назад +9

      @@standopowah really it's a Toyota/Yamaha/RandomGermanEngineeringFirm hybrid.

    • @muffin4600
      @muffin4600 3 года назад +14

      @@standopowah which is a poor reply because Yamaha has made some legendary car engines: Taurus sho, Lexus LFA, AE86, lotus elise, and others. If the new supra's engine was a toyota/yamaha collaboration people would be singing it's praises

    • @sv52308
      @sv52308 3 года назад +10

      @@muffin4600 and Bmw? Look at every legendary car they made.

    • @jdj8168
      @jdj8168 3 года назад

      @@sv52308 good point

  • @gxpshmop6982
    @gxpshmop6982 2 года назад +3

    Those shifts on the new one 🔥

  • @trophyhunterssupplyllc7163
    @trophyhunterssupplyllc7163 2 года назад

    Love my 2022 A91-CF it is a blast to drive and the attention it gathers is almost annoying after while with all the stares, questions and photos people take of it. Id certainly like to have a MK4 someday as well, would be a dream to own both.

  • @jefflar1992
    @jefflar1992 3 года назад +22

    Just sitting here patiently waiting for my guys to reach 1 mil, best channel on YT by far.

  • @Rac3r4Life
    @Rac3r4Life 3 года назад +123

    I really miss my IS300. I did a 2JZ-GTE conversion. I had the manual version, so naturally I popped in a 6-speed from the supra. I stiffened the chassis, and upgraded to a fully adjustable (castor, camber, toe, stiffness, and ride height) coil over strut suspension front and rear. It was amazing around a racetrack.
    Edit: with the tune I was making 700hp to the wheels.

    • @ziqrsx
      @ziqrsx 3 года назад +7

      Where is it now?

    • @ervin7178
      @ervin7178 3 года назад +1

      Those first gen is300’s are so cool.

    • @KeenanStyles
      @KeenanStyles 3 года назад

      @Stephen j AWD is boring

    • @borla4491
      @borla4491 3 года назад +1

      @@KeenanStyles And AWD is complicated to repair .

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 3 года назад +1

      Same; I had a '95 SC300 waiting for the supra swap but job loss = kept he wrx and sold the SC300... I'll eventually get another that someone has poured their life savings/divorce special...

  • @dgriffen1
    @dgriffen1 3 года назад

    never heard a better closing statement on a car video ever!

  • @rugbyguitargod
    @rugbyguitargod 2 года назад

    The FD RX-7 also had a very similar driver instrument/dash layout as the MkIV Supra.

  • @justinmadden7739
    @justinmadden7739 3 года назад +102

    The production value of your videos is amazing, I’m blown away. A80 Supra is an amazing car and I miss that straight six sound and just seeing them on the road. From a time when Toyota and Nissan and Honda and Mitsubishi threw caution to the wind and built these amazing cars. I miss those days.

  • @M3RRIH3W13
    @M3RRIH3W13 3 года назад +99

    There are so many stories about how people feel about the IV. The "Fast and the Furious" is the other spectrum of the car. It's the legendary 2JZ with great tuning possibilities. What Toyota didn't make was a rocket car, they made an iconic Gran Tourer. It was a midsize, comfortable, and fast car to enjoy driving across the country. I think the Lexus LC500 comes to my mind when I think about the older Supra (without the larger price tag). The Supra I, II, III, and IV were all different cars. Maybe, Toyota will morph the next Supra into a GT from the LC500.

    • @jaredchampagne2752
      @jaredchampagne2752 3 года назад +11

      M3RRIH3W13 Nah I don’t think so, Toyota is so greedy and corporate nowadays, they’re way too cheap to actually make enthusiast based cars, they only care about making cars that sell to the masses, the BMW Supra is a supreme example of their disconnect with their true fans and literally made a car that no one asked for with a Supra badge on it, they pay someone else to build their performance cars because they don’t want to invest the money into a performance car that wont sell a million units, they only care about the bread and butter, corolla, Camry and crossovers.

    • @M3RRIH3W13
      @M3RRIH3W13 3 года назад +4

      @@jaredchampagne2752 I believe that you are correct. The Supra sat on the shelf for a long time. Crossovers and econoboxes get all the money.

    • @supraturboz
      @supraturboz Год назад +2

      The mkiv was not a gt, it’s more a sports cars than a gt, the gt was the sc/soarer, the mkiii was a traditional gt

  • @davidgorbunov8507
    @davidgorbunov8507 27 дней назад

    The last 10 seconds of this video brought a tear…
    So true; I miss my mk4. I had to loose my dream Mk4 of 8 years of ownership; in exchange for a marriage and family. A thankful; bittersweet exchange..

  • @bradr9879
    @bradr9879 2 года назад

    Man I love you guys . Lol come for the intro stay for the cars

  • @sabiwabi9964
    @sabiwabi9964 3 года назад +23

    Cracked a tear at the end. Thank you for this guys

  • @reesharris2959
    @reesharris2959 3 года назад +67

    As an Australian, am I the only one disappointed that James didn’t make reference to the A80 Supra having the steering wheel on the correct side?

    • @Lexrolla-1
      @Lexrolla-1 3 года назад +8

      No because everyone knows ....including him now ....being on the left side of the car is proper😊

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 3 года назад +2

      OdysseyMe29 nope It came from japan and that side is correct

    • @jackylomega
      @jackylomega 3 года назад

      British conquered countries drive on the wrong side. Free countries drive on the right side. Hence the name right side of the road

    • @SIKCAR
      @SIKCAR 3 года назад

      You mean having the steering wheel on the RIGHT side!

    • @Lexrolla-1
      @Lexrolla-1 3 года назад

      @@jackylomega "right" as in the opposite of left...no further meaning is implied..driving on the opposite side of the car is unnatural

  • @mr.ez_breazy4993
    @mr.ez_breazy4993 2 года назад

    Bro I just went through two non skip ads this vid better be good 👍

  • @yasirreza1519
    @yasirreza1519 2 года назад

    The last speeches was so satisfying to hear ❤️

  • @coreykononchuk
    @coreykononchuk 3 года назад +129

    "276hp" yes, according to the Gentlemen's agreement. ;-)

    • @nobody8116
      @nobody8116 3 года назад +12

      @Stephen j He's still not wrong... the cars were highly underrated in JDM as with other market specs.

    • @nobody8116
      @nobody8116 3 года назад +8

      @Stephen j I wouldn't call underrated 276hp in 1993 as "shit", even when compared to 320hp in USDM-spec. And having owned both, IMO there's not a noticeable difference on the street. Good try, but... 👎😂

    • @Jordan-vg2ly
      @Jordan-vg2ly 3 года назад

      Stephen j wooomp wooooomp

    • @DziadekMroz6666
      @DziadekMroz6666 3 года назад +1

      JDM JZA80 might have 280hp, but in reality it is just above 300

  • @Circa88
    @Circa88 3 года назад +83

    I wanna see a Donut DLC where you can Select James and his Mark 3 Golf, and the HiCar Z, Nolan with his Mustang and LowCar Z, and Zach in his Miata.

    • @ultraguy8771
      @ultraguy8771 3 года назад +7

      And Jerry on his bikes.

    • @zirkh1609
      @zirkh1609 3 года назад +2

      And Aaron on his rx-7

    • @sabyasachiroy7482
      @sabyasachiroy7482 3 года назад +3

      And the ae88 with the ae86 conversion aaaannd nolan's buick from 50s

  • @udayxn._
    @udayxn._ Год назад +1

    One of friend just bought imported a supra out here with a single turbo, and I can't seem to get over the fact that the old supra is a boat and it understeers a lot until you put some money into the suspension.
    But one thing is that the engine feels magnificent, the timing between which the turbo spools is just perfect and yeah other than the fact that it cost him an arm and a leg to buy it, the car is just fabulous, I'm not a fan boy or something but still the engine is perfect.

  • @wolfpac550
    @wolfpac550 2 года назад +1

    That’s why I love my S2000 owning a rare car is special and the value just keeps going up.

  • @jazzbassrocker
    @jazzbassrocker 3 года назад +106

    Please tell me someone else caught the "overnight parts from JAPAN" reference.

    • @ZapFlashD
      @ZapFlashD 3 года назад +1

      I have no idea what that is

    • @jkeid315
      @jkeid315 3 года назад +6

      @@ZapFlashD noooooooo!!!!!!!
      ruclips.net/video/yAoABEI7cL8/видео.html. @ 56 seconds

    • @bongoingaroundbritain.
      @bongoingaroundbritain. 3 года назад +9

      'Road's closed, pizza boy. Find another way home'........

    • @FharishAhmed
      @FharishAhmed 3 года назад +3

      Apparently, it will "decimate" all.

    • @malmal1009
      @malmal1009 3 года назад +4

      You can push this across the finish line or tow it #CLASSIC

  • @cyrillaraga790
    @cyrillaraga790 3 года назад +34

    Nothing like throttle house and coffee in the morning. 👌🏽

  • @logankrukoff8237
    @logankrukoff8237 9 месяцев назад

    Bro this is the coolest intro to a video ever 😂

  • @thanatos1243
    @thanatos1243 3 года назад

    Claps for the creativity ❤️

  • @zaidkidwai7831
    @zaidkidwai7831 3 года назад +40

    From a purely financial view, the mk4 is a better buy because it most likely will continue to appreciate in value. Great video!

  • @mattdirks7896
    @mattdirks7896 3 года назад +113

    "it looks like a C4 Vette" (the interior)... EVERY JDM fan has started typing...

    • @weakneerose7614
      @weakneerose7614 3 года назад +16

      Nah, 90s JDM cars did have very shitty interiors tbh. Those were the time drivers careless about how interior looked.

    • @Tangsters
      @Tangsters 3 года назад

      I imagine his head being blown off right when he said “it’s like a C4 (BOOOM!!!!)

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 3 года назад +9

      @@weakneerose7614 Actually you're a bit wrong. As someone who owns a '90 Toyota Corolla, I will say I love the interior. Driver-centric and all! I specifically love it for that. I'M the driver, I'M in control of the car. The passenger is just the person getting a ride. They're not important. I DON'T want them to mess with my radio, or fucc with my AC, or anything. They're not important enough for that. They're THE PASSENGER, they don't need to concern themself with any of it, it's MY car. And it's wonderfully selfish and driver-centric. And I adore that! After all most driving of '85-'96 Toyota's is done for the enjoyment of the driver.

    • @mesta9997
      @mesta9997 3 года назад +11

      @@Dominik189 nobody cares about how much of a narcissist you are.

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 3 года назад +2

      @@mesta9997 and yet you cared enough to respond! :D Fu Fu Fu, I'm honoured that you felt moved by my "narcism" that you just had to point it out.

  • @setsunaes
    @setsunaes 2 года назад

    That last statement... my god it was cool. Very well said

  • @helmhamburgerhand
    @helmhamburgerhand 2 года назад

    Problem with icon car prices is most ppl have a limit. But ppl who get given money don't. And They drive these niche markets.
    But this was a glorious video