AI is Making It Illegal to use Adobe and Microsoft Software - Jody Bruchon Tech
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I never expected THIS to be what killed the big software makers. Wow.
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This is a pretty legally dubious argument you’ve got here. I agree adobe terms and MS recall is at least a few shade of shitty….. but still….. rage farming much?
Are you really this stupid? Agreement says "you give us a perpetual royalty-free unlimited license to do anything with your content" and you think "they can do anything with your content but you may not have the legal right to make that assignment" is "legally dubious?" You won the pin of shame.
Not at all. He is upset because those of us who make our livings doing such work are caught in the crossfire. There's nothing legally dubious about it.
And as usual it’s some random person who never commented on any of Jody’s previous videos or posts.
He is absolutely right. You obviously do not do any industry work at all. I f you did you would understand this. Keep quiet like you are doing now with no reply to this.
@@KratostheThird Even though I agree with Jody here, what does it matter? Not commenting on previous videos of someone is no metric for the validity of a given statement.
I miss the tech industry of the late 90’s and early 2000’s.
And you can't say *NO.*
The only option is *"ACCEPT"* or to be blocked from using their software, and lose access to anything you have on their "Cloud".
And, as every school boy knows, _"The 'Cloud' is just someone else's computer."_
{:o:O:}
Adobe has always been slime since the creative cloud slaveware.
I wasn't keen on pdfs, but I just assume I'm the right amount of paranoid.
This is why I I use Linux and open source software exclusively. I quit using Windows after 2000. Been using Linux ever since.
That was a long time ago. Still, I support your decision.
I stopped using Adobe Photoshop when they went to subscription-based SaaS (Software as a Service) and switched to Corel Paintshop and Corel Painter. There's always GIMP if necessary.
For video editing, I use VSDC Free Video Editor.
I'm sticking with Windows 10 Pro and have Win 11 blocked from being installed using the local group policy editor, so nothing after 22H2 can be shoved onto my computer.
A good friend of mine is asking me to prevent Windows 11, but I don’t exactly know how to do that exactly.
@@KratostheThird You have to go into the Local Group Policy editor. Wish I could send a screenshot here of what to pick, though I'll try to walk you through it.
Always, back up your computer first...just in case.
In the search box on the bottom left of your desktop, type in "local group policy" -- the top item will have "related: local group policy editor", so click on that. It should open up a window called the Local Group Policy Editor.
On the left side, you will see a folder tree with two main groups: Computer Configuration at the top, and in that section you will see that the last folder is called "Administrative Templates". Expand that and at the bottom of the list you will see "All Settings". You will need to click on that. It will open a long list in the right pane, and you will need to scroll down to "Select the target Feature Update version" by double-clicking it. That will open a pop-up box titled, "Select the target Feature Update Version" in it's upper left corner. On the left side you will see three "radio buttons" -- click on "Enabled". You can add a comment in the box to the right of it with "This is to stop Windows 11 from installing." (quotation marks not required).
Next, you will need to move down to the "Options" section, and in the 2nd (bottom) box, type in "22H2" (no quotation marks). Then click on "Apply" and "Okay".
Close out of all that and then reboot your computer.
The next time you go to Settings -> Update & Security, at the top under the big words, "Windows Update", you should see in red,
* Some settings are managed by your organization
Then you're all set! Nothing past version 22H2 will get installed on your computer.
Hope this helps. :)
That's the last straw. After nearly a decade of being an Adobe subscriber, I'm calling it quits. I don't care if they 100% walk back everything in this TOS, I'm so sick of their shit. I already use the Affinity suite but was holding on to Adobe for a few select features, but those features aren't worth it anymore.
Glad to hear you’re walking away.
it 👏is 👏morally 👏right👏to👏pirate👏adobe👏products👏
Or don't use them and use a different product instead?
If you try to protest their cramming in features that put you at risk by pirating the thing that puts you at risk, *you're still at risk*.
(And signaled that you think their work is valuable enough to use, but not to pay for. There are times where piracy is in fact the moral and practical answer to a situation. This is not one of them. )
DaVinci Resolve, CyberLink PowerDirector, Pinnacle Studio, LWKS Lightworks, HitFilm, Corel VideoStudio, Wondershare Filmora, and Nero Video just to name a few. A lot of replacements.
And the funniest thing is that the AI is just a big copycat, not iPhone level revolutionary yet they sell it like that.
This is the crux of the argument. AI is a huge blender, swirling around whatever you put into it, with sausage coming out the other end. Parts is parts.
I'll have to remove Acrobat from my work computer since all of the files we handle daily have PII and HIPPA-covered data all over them. I wonder if there is a case to be made from HIPPA or GDPR regulations that could put Adobe and Micro$oft in legal jeopardy for pushing these ToS and software changes to their user base?
Adobe is so big and powerful compared to their alternative that most of the other big players are doing the same AI nonsense and no one is going to raise a stink. The only way that will ever happen is if someone gets GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS over to our russian or Chinese friends due to the backdoor imposed on us through these disingenuous bad faith actions by these companies. The buck stops when the GOVERNMENT themselves get a door knock warning them that they've been "gotted
I stopped using Adobe when they went rent only , never turned back on
Totally agree. A I doesn't need to be in every little 5hing. Also, companies should not be allowed to use your info without your permission.
It's like the new "cool" thing that's trendy.
Remember the CD burner program Ashampoo? Even that has AI too somehow. It's moronic.
Better move to Europe !
A few people have said they have to accept the new terms in order to access the page to cancel their Adobe subscription. There is also a cancellation fee.
The sad thing is they're not joking.
Maybe there's even a restocking fee and shipping fee. LOOL
This would be funny if it weren't sad/frustrating.
I _read_ that you can downgrade to a lower/the lowest plan, THEN cancel without the fee. No clue if this works; I left Adobe when they started RENTING software.
I bet you can solve the problem easily by calling your bank and telling them to block all payments to adobe.
@@JaguarPanda They usually encourage people to pay upfont for half a year or more.
They are farming everyone's knowledge. That's why I like Linux
I'll dump my Adobe subscriptions and move to other products if Adobe doesn't fix this.
Just make a virtual machine for say Windows XP, and install Adobe CS (whatever Version, like CS4) and use this one. The master collection of CS4 includes Premier Pro. Of course do NOT CONNECT this Windows XP to the internet. The older Version of Adobe use the outdated older terms of service.
Pirate Bay, man. Snag the latest collection by HaxNode or SadeemPC. No viruses and no need to goof with hosts files or other invasive stuff. Just works, cloud functions neutered.
The IP holders should band together in a class action lawsuit against Adobe for pirating the material. That should change their tune.
Anyone accepting one or more images does not have more rights than those who watch a movie or listen to music. As a regular person I cannot sublicense any material which I have bougth, the same can be said about those who accept image editing jobs.
Considering that the entertainment industry tend to go after thoses who download movies or songs, I can say that the same arguments can be used against Adobe. I don't wanna know how big a fine they would have to pay if they lost in a court.
the companies need to start invalidating their contracts with their clients everytime they find out the end product was made with Adobe. once Artists get tired of producing free work because of it, they'll start complaining more.
A.I. is just a good reason to push this. Software as a service or even "service as a service" has been pushed for more than a decade. When has a John Deere tractor stopped being your property and became a "perpetual lease", banning you from repairing it. Same goes for Roku TVs and some car models. We have became just an appendage of the corporate machine.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"
WEF: You will own nothing.
I was an avid Adobe user in the 2000’s. Today you couldn’t pay me to subscribe to any of their products. They charge far too much money, and all of their programs are bloated.
Adobe stopped being good years ago.
Yeah, but when we thought it couldn't get any worse... they take it as a challenge...
That's why I used old versions of Adobe..
The moment if became cloud based and annual licence is when they destroyed it. They took the golden goose and its whole nest. AI is the most inane descriptor of a mere fast data raiding compiler.
Adobe is the reason why the entire tech industry gone cloud based subscription model. I wish they would gone bankrupt. But hey, most of the people are forced to pay monthly fees.
@@olexijl78 MS Office, Adobe, all of the big tech corporations want us to pay more.
Because I guess just paying your bills for Internet, electricity, property, car payments, water, just isn’t enough.
These company softwares restrictive licensing is just gonna push creators towards FOSS, its like watching Budweiser effect in a computer world
So be it.
We in FOSS do not want a tide of creators, all the shit will arrive with them ...
Brilliant points! I wonder what any Adobe rep would say if they'd be confronted with this problem. Well, I mean, I already know it... some meaningless manager word salad of course...
'What are you supposed to do about this?' A. use open source software. Job done 😀
Linux Zorin 17.1 makes Windows users feel like home. Check it. We can thank those greedy controlling companies pushing us to use free stuff only and save our money.
I just have to ask... who the hell is running Adobe legal department? Lionel Hutz?
Some moron, that’s all I know.
I will gladly watch Adobe/Microsoft make their product so bad that even normal people try out Linux. Gaming is great even on Nvidia, most people even those like me that used it heavily don't use 80% of what Photoshop can do, and Davinci resolve runs natively on Linux...
My only concern is, the Pluton "cloud" chips in the copilot devices. How will they react to a Linux install? Can Linux even be installed with those security chips? Will they phone home and exfiltrate data or brick your new Linux install?
People have been warned about this stuff for 40 years, but they didn't listen.
I keep only a phrase of yours: ''what interesting times we are living in!''. God, stupidity is sure bigger than the universe!
I opened my adobe file the other day and found that if you want AI to interpret that ebook etc, it's free but you have to sign up with the proviso that you allow them to send that document to their cloud. I believe the 'chat with RTX' is a better alternative for those who want privacy.
Methinks now is a good time to donate to development of open source projects including Krita, GIMP and Kdenlive.
It is
Time to us DaVinci Resolve and Linux because of all the privacy and AI nonsense. There is also Kdenlive when they screw up.
I completely understand this. I am a 3D and VFX artist and I recently graduated from a university. At the university, I was also under an internship where I have signed NDA documents. Those NDA documents are the reason why there are things that I legally can not show in my portfolio yet. I am actively searching for other alternatives. I know there is Affinity. I need an alternative for Substance Painter if I am going to completely jump the Adobe ship.
My experience in 3D/VFX is very limited. But can't you do what's needed in Blender, at least with add-ons? (And yes, Affinity can replace Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign)
@@LV4EVR I'm not sure. I have never been a blender user. Most of the stuff used at the studio that I worked through was Maya with Arnold rendering, Substance Painter for texturing, and Houdini for some VFX. The thing I like about Substance is the ability to create textures and save them almost as presets, that way, you aren't saving pre-made color, normal, bump, specular, etc. maps. You just have one file which is made in Substance Sampler and then you use it to apply and paint onto your model. From there, it is exported to Maya. It is a workflow/pipeline thing.
Instamat for Substance products line
What about Daz 3D? Anybody familiar with it?
Jody, They are giving us the keys back, thank you microsoft, thank you adobe, thank you apple, thank you google, we promide we will be better stewards of general computing than you have been. Thank you for humbly accepting defeat.
It'll be interesting to see if (A), Adobe makes an "enterprise" version of their software available to multiple-seat subscribers, without this spyware language in the TOS, or, alternatively, (B) every producer, editor, color grader, etc. in the world switches to DaVinci Resolve. Let's hope that Blackmagic Design does not stupidly follow Adobe's example, as I suspect they could sell A LOT of licenses for their excellent editing suite right about now.
I love DaVinci Resolve. I'll never go back to any other editing software (but I'll drop it too if it jumps on this AI bandwagon).
Same@@TheChroniclesofLouie
Don't wake up too much because then you will be called a conspiracy theorist. LOL
There is nothing wrong with being a conspiracy theorist. Don't let the opinions of NPCs stop you from seeking the truth about anything.
To put a recent little twist on things: "A 'conspiracy theorist' is just a dirty little name people give to those that AREN'T insane."
Conspiracy Theory = 6 months ahead of the news
Getting louis rossman flashbacks where this is just an outright morally justified case of piracy.
I already hooked my dad up with a cracked copy of a version of Photoshop that runs correctly on his PC, the newest ones were way to laggy for him (Somewhere in 2020 they made it inefficient). He used to be a creative cloud subscriber, he probably paid enough trough that to have paid the original price if it had still been boxed software. And the updates harm him so he doesn't need to pay for updates. In my opinion that was morally completely fine to then cancel the subscription and have him be able to use the version he likes. And now this kind of TOS BS he will luckily not be subjected to.
Thing is, it's not A.I that's the problem. It's the human implementation of it, which is where the phrase, "Instead of creating Artificial Intelligence, we should fix human stupidity.", comes from.
Human stupidity is unfixable
More like corporate greed.
No law to control AI, that's the problem. Greed is just their nature, it simply cant change, so the most logic solution is make law to control what they use to fill their wallet.
It doesn't matter because it creates or exacerbates these problems.
If the people behind it believed in ethics, they would have implemented them from the start. But they haven't. So we have to regulate.
@@Rahviel80 is right. The closest approximation to AI which exists today, is the legal entity whose prime directives are profit and control of profit potential. In short, the corporation. It bribes our so-called representatives to gain its own human rights at the expense of ours. That tired old trope that we bring this on ourselves is the same diversionary tactic they've been using for decades. People are too greedy, people are too lazy, people want "instant gratification'" all lies crafted to keep us questioning each other instead of looking up.
i sure do love running cs3 in 2024
Originally released in early 2007.
I do all my professional work for clients with small apps made by small companies or community opensource programs. My clients are very happy, very desirable results etc.. No AI.
Remember Adobe's top priority as a public listed company is to make as much money from it's users to give to ti's shareholders. It's legally obliged to do so.
it violates non disclosure agreements you might have
I just contacted them via chat to cancel. I had 4 months left on my contract and wanted to disable auto renew. I was asked why i ws to cancel, told them i was sick of SAAS and their AI, they gave me 3 months free, so now i just have to cancel before renewal in November.
This is the best and fastest way to nake AI software illegal world wide
Adobe is the hero we need but dont deserved after all... who know?
Your outrage and bewilderment seem entirely justified. I can see corporations who /need/ open-source software starting to contribute to the community effort. Will we see a day when no sane person will allow closed-source software to run on their stuff?
I'm reverting my life back to a different set of strings...bowstring, and the good ol' E, A, D, G, B, E strings. Tired of this. Keep up your great work, Jody.
I, too, have been known to guitar sometimes!
I’ve taken a step back from technology and sticking to stuff my Baby Boomer parents grew up on.
This big tech overreach cannot be ignored. It is literally killing how we love and enjoy tech.
@@KratostheThird Well, personally, I got the tech fun back with Linux ten years ago. I feel in control again and the disto wars is much like the Spectrum, vs C64 and ST vs Amiga wars! Fun times.
And I love using Kdenlive to produce AMv's!
@@jedipadawan7023 I used to use a video editing program purely for fun, back in the early days of RUclips when it wasn't entirely corporate.
I've also tinkered with stuff like Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM. I've made my own maps for those games.
Fun with gaming 20 years ago was having a bunch of nerds bring a bunch of Xbox and PS2 consoles together, to play Halo or some other multiplayer game on a LAN connection.
Sad that this generation will never experience the stuff we loved as kids and teenagers.
@@KratostheThird Well, we have to be careful there. I remember my parents going on about the 'good old days' to my irritation. I do think Linux brings a lot of the sense of the old days; of being in control and having choice. Having said that, I remember being wowed by 'Manic Miner!'
An aside: I did my first AMV in the UK on a piece of Windows software, I forget the name, something 'Magik' which I paid $100 for. It was slow, had limited effects, would ONLY input MP4 files properly and even then I had to compensate for audio lag - every other format load equaled CRASH. And this when MP4 was VERY heavy on the single core machines of the time. So editing was SLOW. And the software crashed literally every ten minutes. I did install the patch, which did not fix any of the bugs but introduced a few more so I had to roll back.
I come to Indonesia, get into Linux and install Kdenlive. All the functionality that was missing on my paid for Window app was there plus effects and it handled every video format known to man and Kdenlive worked!!! For free.
Life is a lot more fun for me on Linux.
This might be a good time for people to really consider whether putting anything on the cloud is a good idea
it is not, for sure. What can be scanned, will be scanned. Encrypt everything if it has to leave the house.
It's not about cloud anymore. This shit was for cloud already since 2020. Now it's general.
The year of the Linux desktop isn't happening but the Foss software is going to take some steams
for me the year has happened 26 years ago, not once I have regretted moving to the free world ...
The "year of the Linux desktop" was meant in that Linux would take over being #1 and knock Windows out of that spot. It was coined by sites like CNET. Linux on the desktop happened decades ago. If you add up all the Chromebooks, self-installed desktops, and laptops Linux runs on these days, it's about 9% of the desktop install base. I've seen a serious uptick in newbs joining the subreddits, forums other sites that I frequent that are focused on Linux. Who knows who is trying it but it's not a niche OS anymore.
Desktop Linux, not including Chromebooks, has increased from 1% worldwide to 4% worldwide in just 18 months. That's going some. Linux desktop use in the USA now runs at 12%. And this is set to increase, I speak from experience, because people cannot afford the new hardware for the latest versions of Windows. So I am installing Linux (MX Linux KDE for a number of reasons) on old laptops as people prioritise paying for housing and education fees and do not have disposable income.
That was BEFORE Recall and Adobe's insanity.
Microsoft is too embedded in critical fields such as big business, healthcare, insurance, oil, etc, etc Like COBOL the world is stuck with Windows legacy and so Windows will always be with us and likely remain dominant.
But I can see Linux going mainstream in the consumer market and with start ups (I am 100% Linux for my microbusiness) and overtaking expensive, 'walled garden' Mac. If Linux becomes mainstream I would call that the year of the Linux desktop.
@@jedipadawan7023 I have several Linux hosts including a regularly used desktop as well as an M2 Max Macbook. I've been using Linux so long that Arch (and it's derivatives are easy for me. It's not a brag, it's just that I've been a Linux user since '95. I've been an "anything but windows" user since 1998. :D
@@bitterseeds It worries me, Linux is no niche any more because with crowds all the shit from their world will be brought into it.
All the social media sites do this too... Btw
The difference there though is that it's very easy to avoid putting your work on social media. I don't need to upload my art to Twitter in the process of making it, but I *would* need to shuffle it through Windows and my graphics software of choice. Placing these sorts of clauses into software that is essential to a lot of people's workflow makes it unavoidable and thus illegal to use.
Not that social media websites thinking all your data is free real estate for AI training is great, either, but it's at least avoidable.
That's beside the point. Social media has to have licence, because they publish it for everyone to see. It's still illegal for social media user to put NDA/confidential stuff there... see?
A contract that can be unilaterally changed is no contract at all, no matter what the law says.
Thank you for making this aware for others. People just don’t know how bad the toc are anymore bc they’re mindless ‘TLDR’ automatons
right now, I’m just waiting for a design unique to a specific client which *I designed* ~ just *for them* ~ and *charged them* for to appear in someone else’s marketing or video or or or …
we, as designers and editors will be the ones who get sued ! … like the 976 content creators of the 80’s 🤨
I feel an enormous surge in Free/Open Source programs coming in the very near future. This will be a good thing in the long run.
Hopefully Lightwave3D will continue to add PP functionality in their soft ware which is perpetual and respects everyone's privacy and IP
Blender.
Thanks, I enjoy the information you provide
in short, if you are working on a confidential thing at a company and you are using Adobe software, you are sued by that company while Adobe uses what you are working on.
Definitely an important thing for people to know about.
I didn't even think about this, this is just running there business into the ground what idiots. I had to use adobe once for photoshop, and they tried charging me 100$ for canceling because there was no monthly subscription plans at that time. I was able to get out of it by switching my plan then canceling since it was a "New plan" I was able to cancel with no fee but still Adobe are flat out evil!
I don't understand why nobody starts a class lawsuit against Microsoft and A.I.
people are that afraid and helpless ?
Easy reply: Why don't you?
@@80Jay71
if so, how about you join me ?
@@80Jay71
since I do NOT use their recall, I do NOT think I can find an excuse...
but maybe you can...
@@SkyFly19853 Nope. I have always used paid copies. Not anymore.
@@SkyFly19853 I would if I still paid for PS. ;) I do appreciate your honesty, though!
But if Adobe uses materials they don't have permission to use for AI training, because you uploaded them to their platform in violation of the license agreement, it's still Adobe violating copyright if they use those materials. And while methods to prove that certain data was used for AI training may not have been fully developed yet, I believe they will be at some point. Dangerous game, that's what they're playing.
They make sure you give them license for those material via term of use before they feed it to their AI, just saying.
Hope this will help with developing even better open source alternatives for professional use
You and me both brother. But you know what helps even more than hope? Supporting, donating, and learning how to contribute skills to and maintain the FOSS you use.
Now I understand why companies subsidize open source software such as Krita, Gimp and other that don't push that garbage in it... Thankfully I dropped adobe products since I hated Microsoft enough to switch to Linux.
I buy this software to make art not to let you snoop on me to steal my art, this should be illegal to put in the terms of agreement as some legal way to snoop on me and take my work.
Dont blame AI, blame the corrupted system of the USA that allows greedy companies to perform stunts like these on their customers
Concisely put - you are no longer allowed to freelance work and sub-license work that a client intends on using legally!!!! You the creator no longer own your own created content that you paid a software to use
If you use DaVinci Resolve there is no such infringement issues. DaVinci Resolve and the Affinity suite does not use AI. Those and open source, free software is not using AI.
Doesn't matter if total Recall is running underneath, you can only use it on Linux.
@@Kazekoge101 Hopefully, Recall will never make it to non-ARM versions. That'll give many of us time to move to Linux. For me, I need Affinity on Linux.
@@LV4EVR Doing a check, it does seem Affinity will run under WINE especially via bottles. not the Adobe has a real aversion to open source and vowed to NEVER port Photoshop et al to Linux so I am hoping Affinity will.
Also, people should contribute to development of open source apps such as Krita and GIMP though not that Krita is more 'blank canvas' and GIMP image manipulation.
Note that I run a private tuition business in Indonesia that requires all sorts of content priduction - worksheets, videos, audio recordings, images, file format translation...I do not use any kind of software 'to the max' but the range of apps I have to use is insane! I am 100% Linux and no problems.
It's not about AI and access to it, but tos made to steal content for training AI
Even if you 100% own the rights to what you're working on, Adobe is in legally murky water. One aspect of contract law (as I understand it) is that both sides must have concessions to the other. You conceed rights to your work and they conceed what to you? The right to continue to use their product that you already paid for (and thus have an existing contract)?
Corporations have been guilty of these bait-and-switch tactics for years, of course, but our legal system is completely incompetent.
Our legal system is stuck in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.
Our modern tech and 2010s/2020s era app and computer technology is mostly foreign to these people.
Linux 4 the win
Linux is an OS. It's no replacement for Adobe or Microsoft (or any other commercial) applications. Therein lies the problem... for many of those applications, no suitable replacements exist (on Linux or anywhere else).
Microsoft and Adobe are what's making it legally dubious to use their products. Maybe the investors, if we want to point at the power they exert when they say they'll pull funding if these companies don't add these features. But without a doubt, the vast majority of the actual users of Microsoft and Adobe products were not asking to have their work be examined or reused or repurposed without notification or without more specific clarification on the use case.
But yes, given the kind of work I do for my job, Adobe and Recall are a *huge* issue for compliance with regards to PII. No idea what the higherups are going to do about that. While I'd be perfectly fine if that meant us switching to Linux desktops, Linux servers, and using Affinity instead of Adobe for design work, I do not anticipate Corporate being willing to do so.
That's also my favorite curse. I'm running Linux on my Surface Laptop... I'm not doing work for hire, but I'll be damned if I give any company cart blanche to pillage my files.
I fully support the downloading of pirated software... there's your out.
lmao. Looking forward to the longer video on AI.
I've been using WPS office for 2 years as a free alternative to MS. Besides their constant nagging for a paid subscription which I refuse to do, along with the updates came AI, constant pressure to backup to their cloud, a cloud icon in the taskbar which cannot be removed, and now they don't even allow document editing without signing in. I can see their intention to steal documents has/will become reality. MS even allows free usage if u use their cloud storage.
Open source and transparent training data by law! Let's tax corporations by 95% if they don’t. With AI replacing labor corporations will have less power and leverage to the government. „Don’t tax us too high, we are big employers“ won’t work anymore.
All this Adobe stuff happened during my transition from Windows 10 to Linux Kubuntu. Everything that's happening with the corporate tech industry is just hilarious to me now 🤣
I used Photoshop before it even had that name. Pixelmator is always improving and has benefit of application-scripting for smart-production/live-automations. Interface remains troublesome, but I use more and more.
PS was a growing collection of Knowles bros graphic routines contracted around input hardware called Barnyscan, but it had 32-bit color depth and feathered selections… subsumed into a corporate monster : a creature with thousands of stomachs and no-brains.
#AdobeExit
What about Acrobat? does OpenOffice effectively replace it? I honestly don't know because I haven't tinkered with it much even though I use the Writer regularly
Fun fact: Did you know that Randy Travis song "Where That Came From" was an AI song? I found it hard to believe! 😯
I don't like AI, but in this case I'll make an exception as it was used for a good reason (he lost his voice).
I can hear the excuse now, "We didn't think of that".
All the lawyers in the back room, "Payday".
But maybe they did think of that to get their hands on everyone's stuff to power their AI products. That could have been the aim.
@@michaelm1 That's why I said excuse. Somebody somewhere would have said, "We have all these people doing copyrighted work...". These companies do not do anything without lawyers input. I'm sure they said they can hide behind the user agreement. Which is going to get them in the end. Either by the loss of customers, and/or by legal action. What these companies are doing is just stupid. It drove me to do most of my creative work off line. I make sure to only have pieces of what I'm doing online.
So wait...if you pirate Adobe are the TOS still binding for you?
Technically, you have to agree to a click-wrap license before running it, so yes.
Try pirate photoshop CS6 or any old version without creative cloud, their old term of use dont including this I think.
Thank you! We’d better move lo Linux and ban AI
More government isn't the solution.
AI is a cool technology, and I still want to believe in it. But people always ruin everything and misuse it. And it's not the AI's fault, as it says in the title, but the corporate idiocy. Thanks for the video. Subbed
AI itself is misuse. Machine learning model requires data to learn. Makers do the shortest route possible - they steal. All of them. Adobe also wants to steal and be paid for it by people they want to steal from.
@@GrimK77that's exactly corporate idiocy.
The problem isnt the AI, it is the licensing agreement.
gotta love it when you live in a world where a company reigns supreme and then they do something stupid and destroy itself to the ground gotta love greed it always wins and destroy. rip adobe soon you will be no more if things continue
I deleted all the Adobe stuff ages ago, once it's gone, your computer works better. I can not believe that people continue to use professionally software that isn't even good enough for me to poop on as a hobbyist.
Looking from how they act lately , I believe they`d already did that ( snooping and collecting ) before make it official with their new TOS. It`s not just about AI but bad actors a. k.a scammers who seem flooding in an big companies
So are they taking your work when you save it on the cloud or is it even when you are creating on your desktop?
Who knows at this point.On thing is clear, they definitvely think they can get away with it. The tech industry has gone rogue and need to be broken up.
@@redwithblackstripes Indeed, they've destroyed any trust that might still have been there in no time.
The license makes no distinction. You grant the rights by using it. You have to assume that it's always subject to being siphoned up.
U dont need open source software , there is Black Magic DVR , Avid , Grass Valley etc....... for companies in broadcast, I moved long ago away from Adobe and have not regretted in the lease and even if you do use open Source you still able to do work .
I'd be sad if these good, kind and generous companies were to get in trouble. BTW, The interesting times thing may not be a real Chinese curse but it's a great saying.
I cant use Adobe on the contracts I sign in the VFX industry
The best thing an ordinary person can do to help with shit like this is to stop using the product.
Yes, switching takes time, but it is better in the long run.
took me a while to get used to Libre Office tbh, luckily they have options where you can save files into ms office versions since most people i know still use ms office
Shadow Brokers of Mass Effect in the making....
Wow. I really appreciate this heads-up. However, there is a lesser point that I am unsure of.
Adobe can claim whatever they want. They can claim intellectual property rights of whatever their software is accessing, but if the user is not authorized to transfer or sub-license it, it doesn't just happen because Adobe says they want it.
I am basing this on my familiarity with the stock photo industry terms. I have bought royalty-free perpetual use stock photos for decades. Most of those vendors do not actually guarantee that they have the right to license the photos. They rely on the photographers word (unless I pay a premium for the extra due diligence and/or insurance).
Suppose I am doing work-for-hire and use a stock photo. Even if their software could detect the license of the photo, Adobe can't unilaterally change it. They could prevent me from doing the work, but I don't think they will. I don't think they will sue me for it.
I think it's just an overly broad reach to grab as much IP rights as possible going forward. That's definitely something to understand and keep an eye on.
Thank you again for the heads up.
I'm pretty sure the problem is that if you are sharing with Adobe and you signed a contract that prohibits you from doing so, the party you are contracting with that owns the IP can sue you if it is discovered you were sharing their IP, even if it was to Abobe.
That makes sense.
I'll have to read the #$#^ TOS again and review my contracts. :-(
Poor thing still thinks corpos care about the laws. The very platform you upload this video on violates laws en masse. Starting from Section 230 and down Monetization policy that's based off the idea of copyright which a platforms has no right to decide
Someone didn't watch the video. This isn't about the corporations, it's about the users.
@@JodyBruchon I watched it you imbecelio. No need to for 6 mins it was quite obvious.. Again corpos don't care about you or your issues
@@JodyBruchon I don't hear the same leftists wanting to blame or shut down democrat controlled FBI affiliated social media.
@@Matlockization Oh Please !!
@@technobubba4 That means I hit the nail on the head, thank you.
Yup - Adobe already has the ability to uninstall older versions of Photoshop for instance.....I know because I had an old version of Photoshop that, when it was running while the laptop was online, would suddenly uninstall itself (because it was a pirated version). Happened several times until I learned to shut the internet off while running PS.
So now it's the end run, they'll be able to erase images that you created with the help of their software?
I never felt like a pirate, because none of my images earned money or were part of commercial activity....but now...who knows?
So the pirated version still work without issue if you block it from accessing the internet. Why don't you block it using Windows Firewall or by editing the Windows' hosts file?
Just uninstall the Adobe genuine app.
Add all of the telemetry domains on a firewall block list
Actually there is still open source and piracy.
As mentioned in the video, at least partially.
@@JodyBruchon Some people don't actually listen to videos they just type comments.
Use open source software
Im not sure how this works but I suppose you have to be using Adobe cloud for file storage for this whole thing for them to work. In any case these corporations should be kicked in the balls. MS, Google, Adobe, Apple... All these should be reigned in. The stuff these guys are pulling on the customer is ridiculous.
The license doesn't say only the cloud so you have to assume it covers all data processed by the program.
@@JodyBruchon Thing is, it was already like that for their cloud since 2020. Now they removed mention of cloud, therefore expect stealing of everything.
The cloud stuff is different because all you had to do is not use the folder. The new terms are basically a giant sucking sound over the entire program.
@@JodyBruchon My point, but also shows they planned that for long time, slice by slice.
interesting take and thanks for sharing your insights. As you said, many are jumping on the wagon right now, as all think there is a free lunch, especially on the developer side. As creator I feel betrayed.
Two months ago, a company that works as a social media/creator platform with an stock library element, notified me, that the will use all my photos on their database to train their AI, or even license it out to third parties, no matter whether the photos have been marked as marketable or not from my side. You can withdraw your library and leave. Their willingness to compensate you for the usage of your content was and still is Zero... As creators, we our customers should fight back. I would be happy to help Developers to train their AI, but with the content I define as appropriate (to make sure is does comply) and I do get a fair compensation.
It's time to shift to DaVinci then.
It's bad thatr such a good point gets lost due to the fact that it is too much work to find the camera tripod.
Oh yeah, Louis Rossman made a video about it and M$ has made it very clear about it, too.
And let's say people use 11 LTSC it has no TPM great, right? Well... They require you to log in to an M$ account. They just find ways to screw with people one way or another.
Regardless of all that, the masses will still use Windows. I've gotten used to Linux Mint so I don't mind Linux now.
Only reason I’m still on Windows at this point is because I built my PC desktop myself and there are some games I play on Steam. Once that falls through I’m switching over to Linux.
I’m ignoring Windows 11 entirely because it’s the worst OS Microsoft has come up with in their entire existence.
It's curious how the most rich companies likes free stuff, If you want my creation then pay for it.