*Sir, you talked yourself into a GO situation when, in the back of your mind, you knew it was a NO-GO. I've witnessed this more times than I care to remember.*
Sorry for the loss of that great plane. I went to FrSky several years ago and have not lost a plane since. Lost three on Specktrum and got tired of people telling me it was pilot error. Hard to make control errors when the radio won't stay connected....
Chris, that was heartbreaking! So much time, effort and sweat equity went into the building of the T-28 all gone in a few seconds. All of us in this great RC hobby can empathize/sympathize with your emotion and feelings. However, in all defeats, we man up and look for our next RC victory! I look forward to your next build.
You are way more thorough than I am. But this reminds me of just another reason why I put down the planes and picked up the RC cars and I've never looked back. I hope you i've had better luck since
I'm sorry about the crash. My heart sank when I saw it head straight down. We can all sympathize with you as we know what it takes to build any plane much less the size of the T28. We appreciate you and what you do for the hobby so please keep going.
Send that transmitter to horizon to test the transmitter module, we’ve had two guys at the field with IX20’s that had issues loosing a few birds, they sent the transmitters in and found out module was emitting a weak signal and Horizon replaced them, just fruit for thought! Sucks that this happened I’ve been on a pretty sucky spell too lately.
I would agree I had issues with system and it turned out to be the module was just a tiny bit loose , had glitching and then had nothing model was a Fokker triplane fortunately it just froze and cut the motor and it glided into hedge and survived with minor work to repair. Sometimes your lucky sometimes not had previously lost my Corsair and blamed it on the receiver but wasn’t 100%. Second model confirmed it was a transmitter.
When I heard: signal loss, I immediately thought: Spektrum. I lost a Mustang the very same way, after having several signal losses on other planes, luckily high enough for a recovery. A clubmate of mine, who is a very experienced flyer and even has built his own TX/RX combinations in the seventies, has looked in detail to his Spektrum signal loss issues and came to the conclusion that the real problem is the reconnecting time. That can take seconds, which is way too long in flight. You can notice it yourself when binding a receiver: that also takes some time. I have ditched my Spektrum, went over to Taranis/OpenTX and had zero signal loss problems since. At my club there is only one Spektrum user left. So far he’s been without accidents, so you can get lucky.
And btw, Frsky receivers don’t need satellite receivers, they even don’t exist. In my case, I mainly use a single X8R with the older protocol ACCST: an RX with 8 channels; if I need more I can add a second one and bind it to the channels 9 to 16. Nothing more needed.
So sorry for your loss Chris! It’s hard to take, 2 in a row. I know you are a Spektrum guy but I suggest trying a dual band system for your bigger builds.
Let's be honest, the Spectrum guys use it because of all the bind n flys out there from Horizon Hobby. I'm a Futaba guy too for 30 years and in no defence, my Futaba 14SG just decided one day to change all my trims, rates, mixes which affected over 6 planes in my fleet. I now write down by pen settings of each aircraft just in case it happens again. Mysterious glitch it was and cost me many days of resting and test flying each model.😢
Sorry for your loss Chris. Beautiful plane. I noticed that your wiring is straight and not twisted pair interconnections. You must use twisted pair wiring especially in giant scale ignition, turbine, electric powered systems, etc. and also keep the power and ignition wires separated as far as possible from each other as to not get electrical interference injected into the servo/receiver wiring which will definitely cause signal loss. Same with the receivers. Keep those as far as possible from ignition. If the wires must cross, they must be 90 degrees to each other to minimize cross-talk (interference). Looking forward to seeing another fly again.
Coming from a automotive background, I absolutely 💯 agree with your comment, very well could have been the issue, I want to go back and review the install video and double check for myself, I'm new to the hobby and can use all the lessons I can learn from
I have many gas/turbine aircraft with straight wiring and they all run just fine. I do run 2.4ghz with 900mhz backup FRSKY Tandem receivers. I'd be highly suspect of that Spektrum radio. My buddy had his go into a firmware update mode while flying and it reversed one of the elevator servos in flight. Lost a nice gas spitfire. It all got sent back to Horizon and they are reviewing it.
Tough loss Chris! I have no recommendations on your build, but will say that you ignored your spidey sense which was not to fly it until you resolve your link issue. I don’t like the current spektrum rigs that don’t allow antennas on the satellites. I get more losses on the newer receivers than I do on the older ones.
@@R32pekt yeah, I have seen too many planes at my field go down because of wiring induced interference that had either Futaba or Spektrum systems. The most recent was a Spektrum setup with main receiver plus two satellites and it had straight wiring. The untwisted cables act like antennas and pick up the ignition/electrical noise and cause the receiver and servos to go crazy. After replacing the extensions and other wiring with twisted pair, the issue was resolved. I make my own twisted pair cables for all my aircraft and never had this issue.
@@flyboywblit could be possible that your flight system has a lot better internal noise suppression then Futaba or Spektrum. I don’t know of anybody at our field who uses Frsky yet. Interesting though.
As much as it hurts to watch this it actually does me some good to see other pilots going through tough loses. It reassures me that I'm not alone. Thank you for sharing this. It makes me more prepared for the next time one of my planes goes in.
Sorry for your loss Chris, I can relate - I've been flying on and off for over 50 years so I've had my share of similar crashes. For the past 9 years, I'd been flying Spektrum radios (DX9 & NX10) until 6 months ago. They always worked perfectly for me on LOS aircraft (FPV drones were a different story). Never had a hold or crash that I could contribute to the radio. It's certainly possible the Rx is the culprit just as you suspect, but I doubt it. At least one or more of those satellites would have been getting a good signal, so the Rx is probably not the problem. With so many holds on the ground, I would suspect something in the Tx. I've known several people with Spektrum iX radios whose RF boards were not working properly. One guy in our club had 3 crashes on an iX12 before he sent it back to HH. They replaced the RF board and he's had no problems since. If you want the most secure link possible, I'd suggest a dual signal system such as one made by Jeti, Radiomaster or Frsky. When I quit using Spektrum 6 months ago, I purchased a Radiomaster system with internal 4 in 1 MPM and ELRS external module. The 4 in 1 MPM allows you to fly all your current models without changing Rx's. I saw one test where it operated DSMX receivers at greater distances than genuine Spektrum Tx's. And ELRS protocol is amazing with operating ranges up to 60 miles and up to 1 watt Tx power. In several range tests on RUclips it blows all the others away, including Spektrum and Futaba. Imagine how secure your link is with a model in sight a few hundred feet away. Radiomaster also offers the ELRS Gemini system with dual simultaneous signals - both on 2.4GHz. They also just came out with the ELRS Nomad system with dual simultaneous signals - one on 2.4GHz and the other on 915MHz similar to Jeti. On top of that, open source systems such as Radiomaster are not expensive. I sold my used Spektrum equipment and bought the Radiomaster system with all the options (including the amazing AG01 gimbals) and had money left over. Jeti and Frsky have similarly good dual signal systems but are more proprietary and Jeti in particular is much more expensive. Good luck with whatever you do.
My local flying field sees at least 1 Spektrum signal loss a day. I loss signal in my Flex Innovations Cessna 170 on Spektrum and with an extra satellite antenna from no more than 200ft away. That was the last time I used Spektrum for anything other than my UMX plane collection. I switch to Futaba's FHSS protocol 6 or 7 years ago and haven't experienced signal loss since. I love and trust my T10J so much that I bought a 2nd one as a backup, "just in case." I know Spektrums may be rock solid most of the time, but I'll never risk my nicer planes to Spektrum again. 🤷♂️
I have a gen 1 dx8, and luckily, I haven't had any issues. I've heard nothing but problems with the newer spektrum stuff. Sorry for the loss brother. Don't let this one keep ya down.
I crashed tons of self built RC-airplanes when I was younger back in the 1980's. Nowadays I just add a Gyro that I can turn on or off during flight, even in the easiest to fly models like a piper cub. My 15 yo son laughs about me since he flies his airplanes without a gyro. But I don't care, I just want my airplanes to come back home in one piece. ;-) Sorry for your loss....
@@winsor68 The radio brand has nothing to do with the gyro, gyros can be any brand, cheap or expensive. Hobbyeagle A3 V2 for example. I'm using different radios, old modified futaba, and newer spektrum.
I'm sorry my friend, it's happened to all of us at some point. I would like to recommend that you use transmitters and receivers with the ELRS protocol. I have been flying with this system for over a year and I have never lost the signal again, it really is really good. It can't be that a radio like spektrum still has this type of reception problems,😞
Thanks for posting this incident. It happens to all of us, except those who don't fly. Redo the same plane. But if I have a reception problem during the ground test, I at least change the receiver with a new one to have peace of mind. Especially on a plane of this value.
Man. For us who have been following these last two builds, our hearts are breaking for you. You attention to detail only shows that this hobby is cruel sometimes. I would love to see this one again. You’ve learned all the lessons in the build so would be smoother. But whatever you choose, you fans are supporting you.
I flew many models with just AM & FM Futaba equipment. Never had a problem or glitch. Once PCM and more “advanced” radios came into the market, problems like this were more frequent. I got out of the hobby because of that and the high cost of everything involved! Sorry for your loss because the T-28 is a beautiful flyer.
Looks like Spektrum is not the most trusty RC system. I had similar experience with Spektrum stuff. Since i fly Futaba, i have zero issues with losing RC signal. Keep your head up and go for your next build😊
Totally agree with you 👍 I moved from Futaba to Jeti because after 25 years I felt that Futaba was starting to lag behind tecnologically (Reliability was never an issue with Futaba). Having moved to Jeti (DX16 v2) I can, like you, confidently state that its the best decision I've made in r/c modelling. In use Jeti is both intuative and absolutely rock solid reliable 👍
Oh nooooo…. I read the title of your video Chris and my heart just sank. Watching while knowing how it would end didn’t make it any better. You already know it’s the nature of the beast and yet we keep coming back for more because we love it. Keep the faith- things will get better!
Ugh. Man, I hate that feeling. I lost a project last weekend the exact same way. It spiraled out if the sky and there was nothing I could do. I also use Spektrum. But now I'm starting to sour on them - especially after seeing this. If you're going to build again, it would be cool to see a successful maiden with the same plane.
So sorry for your loss it's always hard when it happends but just try and get back a memory of a flight that everything was working perfectly! I would love to see a plane just like this again!!! Take care!
And that is why I switched to a FrSky X20RS after I got hits on my IX20. My buddy lost two planes in one day on his IX20S. Suffice to say he switched too! Sorry for your loss Chris.
Such a bummer Chris, we are all so sorry that this happened. Chin up and on to the next one. Always enjoy your amazing expertise on building and flying skills. Thanks for sharing 🤍👍
Oh 💩! I am so sorry, man, that sucks so much. Love the attitude you've maintained. After those two losses, I'd definitely be beyond frustrated. Thanks for the great example. Looking forward to what you do next.
Sorry for your loss! I learned the hard way that Spektrum sucks! Never again! Flew Futaba for 40 years never an issue, lost 2 planes in 6 months due to Spektrum. These days I fly only FrSky, best RF link in the business especially with the dual band Tandem system.
It would be cool to see the T-28 again one of my favorite planes but all your builds are super cool and what ever it is I know it will be great sorry for the loss of the plane I look forward to whats next
Thanks. We will revisit this one for sure only next time, it'll be an ARC (which I might already have 😆) and we'll glass and paint it so we can really detail it up.
Sorry, I know it’s tough. I’ve only been flying a few years here now and I think I learn a little something after everyone great content thanks for being there for all of us guys who need encouragement and like to see somebody who can really excel at the Hobby and build a great scale models.
Oh my God, Chris. I'm devastated for you, dude. We've watched the pain staking work you put into that beautiful T-28 with such anticipation to see her airborne. And to have this hapeen... I'm heartbroken. I really wanted this to be an amazing day of flying for you. Wow. Just gutted about this one. Brutal.
li had a buddy lose one of his turbine Jets on that exact same RX same exact thing... locked up just like that....... i love my Frsky X20PRo... all my expensive turbines, helis, and planes are all... 2.4 and 900Mhz always! Sorry for your loss... :(
They can all have their problems I lost an expensive Vladimir's molded glider the Futaba MZ18 WC turned itself off 20 min into the flight I didn't realize thinking it was a model issue. Tested at home the receiver and battery were good the transmitter just randomly turns off by itself with fully charged batteries just an expensive dud radio. I have never had an issue with JR or Spektrum
Sooner or later you’ll have one of those satellite receivers, that Spectrum uses as a fix, be in the wrong place and you will lose the signal. I hope you never have a problem with your Spectrum because it is heartbreaking to lose a built up large scale model that you put so much effort in building. I happen to fly Futaba. Most of my flying mates fly Spectru, some fly Futaba like me. Maybe it’s the shear number of Spectrum radios out there that makes it seem like a Spectrum problem; but, non of the fliers at our field that fly Futaba have had this problem it only rears it’s ugly head with Spectrum radios. .
Sorry for the loss, she was an awesome looking plane. But I'm sure you will figure this out for the next project. Thank you for your inputs and very informative videos. 👍
So sorry to see this Chris! I know just how much work goes into this model myself, and it’s a heartbreaker when something like this happens. Best luck next time my friend👊🏼
You're right, Chris. It's all part of the hobby. The ugly part. Had a similar situation last Saturday and lost my Skyradier. Lost signal right after take off, and there was nothing I could do to recover. Broke my heart. I'm going to rebuild another Skyradier (with improvements). Best of luck to you.
When you raised the gear you lost signal. I was hoping you would lower the gear quickly. Years ago composit aircraft would cause issues with inside antenna. Put 4 satellites in the fuse.
thought the same thing, wasn't like plane was 500 ft away. First sign was you had to move receiver location around in fuse being 50ft away ? wouldn't trust an aeroscout with that setup
Man, my heart goes out to you. Over the past several years most of my crashes have been receiver (brand name) related. Upgraded all of my receivers to advanced 8 channel of the same brand. Much better reliability.
Chris sorry for your loss my friend. That’s another tough one to swallow 😢. You’ll get through this rough patch and come out on the other side better than ever. You’re one heck of a modeler so I say try the T-28 again because it’s such a great flying airplane and I’m sure you would really enjoy flying it. That’s a really nice plane and I know you’ll figure out what was going on and recover from it and fly on !! Dave Kristy maidened his and all went well until the landing. Landed fine on our fabric runway but was too close to one side and ran into the grass and the nose wheel caught on something and the plane abruptly stopped and flipped over. No major damage other than busted the canopy. So hang in there and it will get better! Good luck 🍀
Mate, that’s a valuable lesson learned. I have done it, most of us have a similar experience. Any ??? Don’t fly. That’s the lesson. A more experienced modeller would have realised that he should not have been having those radio problems. When he put it on low power to do the range check, and had nothing, that was the deal breaker. That should have told him there was a serious issue with rx/tx . I remember an Aero flight Hustler, with an ASP .46, did a beautiful hand launch while demonstrating to neighbours, forgot to switch on radio prior to hand launch…… instant kit. Hand in there.
That's how my flight went last night with my IX14. Moving the sticks and no response. Happens from time to time in one section of the field. Sorry for your loss.
What a bummer Chris! I was really looking forward to seeing her in the air. Like you said in the video, this hobby can be tough but you'll rebuild her and make her right. 🤞🏼
Man really sorry to see that Chris. I hope you manage to find out the reason behind the signal loss. Such a shame, it was a lovely take off... looked like it would have flown beautifully.
What a shame. We all been there. I am not going to bash Spektrum as i did use it for a number of years but after an RF board issue i swapped to FRSKY and never looked back. That said i would also not discount RF interference from Ignition module its always tricky when you lose a model especially one as nice as this. I cant remember but i usually set throttle to quit and last know position for all other surfaces. your model looked like it lost all signal as it turned in as opposed to flying in last know position. Also odd with the extra RX that you should lose all of them , I think id send TX back for inspection just to cover all bases Good Luck with the next build
I'm sorry man, I also use Spectrum and the same thing happened to me, it's the saddest thing after all the love that one gave to the plane when assembling it, cheer up and the next one
Do another T-28 Chris! I'm so sorry this happened. Use a completely different receiver though! I maidened mine recently (the China Lake version) and it flew well, but I did run it off into tall grass on landing and flipped it, bending the nose gear strut. But it does have a great presence and deserves another shot from you!
Chris you are a great flyer! Don't let your head down brother. I had the same issue a few months ago with my Cessna. I get it but you know what? Just look up and trust me things will be alright. Can't wait for the next build!
Chris, Just Unbelievable man. My heart goes out to you for all the time spent. That’s so odd with all the holds. I still fly Spektrum. That could happen to anybody with any protocol. Hang in there my friend. Love your builds and you such a great embassador to RC. ❤️
Chris, beautiful model and sorry for the loss. Knowledge will make the next build go faster. Hope the engine is ok. And yes, would like to see you build another for your stable.
Thanks. The engine along with radio gear are at HH at the moment. Will see what they come up with. Hoping the engine repairs aren't too expensive. Oh, and we will revisit this one for sure only next time, it'll be an ARC (which I might already have 😆) and we'll glass and paint it so we can really detail it up.
Boy, that really stinks. Sorry for your loss. I have an ESM T 28 that has a Saito radial about the same size as yours that I plan on finishing up this winter. I feel your pain.
This was really heartbreaking to watch! You invested so much time, spent so many hours and this plane was getting so beautiful! I hope you can restore and reuse this beautiful engine. Just this engine was a piec of art! I hope you get this transmitter/receiver. signal loss solved to avoid such fails in the future. I am using Radiomaster Transmitters with SFHSS receivers (small helis) and FrSky receivers (for the bigger helis) and fortunately never had any signal loss. All the best and I really admire your calm reaction in the first moment after this shocking crash!!
Sorry about the 2nd loss. I know the feeling, I had my DarkStar and my E-Flite F-18 Blue Angel go into 2 separate trees 5 days apart!! For about 2 hours I had both planes in 2 separate trees! Both had a lot of work invested into building/acquiring them respectively. Both were on their maiden flight, and both were due to some sort of receiver trouble. (Don’t go above 100 percent servo travel on AR620 if you are anticipating high G hairpin turns, a right rolling moment occurs with that RX when full aft stick is applied) It was fun watching this adventure, keep it up! Don’t let 2 losses of kit airplanes stop you from building another.
Man, I am so sorry to see this happen ! A beautiful model lost. My first trainer I built crashed on its maiden flight from radio drop out and 40 years later I still have no idea why
That was heartbreaking, Man! I would love to see you back on the horse with the T-28 - maybe different paint scheme to break the curse? I'm sure you will get lots of great advice from this great community - best of luck!
I had a failure with my 63" p-47, (gas leaked out fast and boom) I bit the bullet and got another one. I have been chasing bugs for 3 months and tomorrow I will maiden. Unless something comes up, anyway, you have to give it another shot. If you build a couple before going back to it, so be it. Get back on that horse. Great looking plane and sorry for your loss.
Did you do a range check with engine running from every direction at the flying field? With a plane that costly I would check and re-check connection. Sometimes checking range at home motor off means nothing. sorry for the loss.
Chris, I feel your pain. Lost my last project (the PC21), due to the exact same issue! Ioss of radio control feels like, the plane has been stolen from you! These ones really hurt the most...
Oh no! Bro I am so sorry that happened! You did such an amazing job on the build! And you know what, you have a lot of guts to post this and own it like you did. Respect.... looking forward to your next Build. ✈👍🇺🇸
Really sorry for your lost plane. Gotta say - without being harsh - the signs were in front of you. I remember back maybe 10 years - a model shop owner rocked up at our flying field with a brand new huge petrol powered Extra. They worked for half the day on an electrical glitchy issue. Pressed on. Other flyers attempted to tell the guy to take the problem home to fix. But he took it into the air - it had a shorter 'flight' than you had - ending in a hole in the ground. I'm sorry again for the lost plane. 😢
What a great sport you are Chris. I think this is the first time I saw you disappointed, but you turned that around with a smile. Would it help to tests receivers in foam planes before installing it in precious builds? Or does balsa and metal behave completely different to foam/electric set up?
I should of never watched that, I'm gutted! That was hard to take, man I'm sorry that happened to you. Man I almost jerked a tear, cant believe you didn't. Its a tough game at times, I've been there lots, but watching someones elses heart smashed, wow, that hurt.
If I see control issues while performing a range check on my Spektrum receiver I try to re-bind the receiver and change the frame rate to 22ms. Seems to works for my models but like others have suggested it might be the wiring.
Little late to comment, Chris. Very sorry about the crash. Really hope the Saito wasn't severely damaged. If you find the engine and accessories came out relatively unscathed, then wait out your mourning period and purchase another airframe. It should be a quicker build from that point since you have already done all the engineering and tooling. I think all would agree you had the perfect Saito set up, and it sounded so sweet. I've lost two models over the past 20 years in the "truly regrettable" category. Wrong type of battery and antenna orientation were the causes. Both occured at out of town events, and both were huge learning experiences. I decided to replace one of the two airframes right away, and am glad I did. They are impossible to find now.
Mate you better change that radio to a Futaba one, those expensive airplanes needs the best radios and i have to say Spektrum is not the best brand in my opinion, i fly jet turbines with Futaba many years ago and never had problems, sorry for your crash..damage was horrible, best regards
Only thing I don't see was a proper range check, on the range checks, was engine running, 30 paces away and doing the full 360 degree check. I have never had a failure, electric, gas or turbine with this method, which they do explain in the manual. Sorry to see man, I love my 3cyl radio on my P47, flown with the same radio.
@@JohnVHRC half the video is range checking. He did it with the engine running at multiple angles (4:00 in is just one example). You didn't watch the video and just making yourself look like an ass by criticizing him of not doing something that he actually did do.
I love the build series and appreciate how much detail you provide in the videos as well your published how to guides!!!! If you could do an F5 Vigilante, that would be awesome!
Geez, I have an older DX6e (the black one, so second gen I think) and I have about 30 aircraft attached to it. I have never lost signal ever flying at several different locations. I wonder if the more expensive radios get too complicated for their own good. So sorry to see that happen. My heart dropped when it went inverted. Keep flying bud.
Sorry that happened Chris. You did a beautiful build and setup. I would love to see you do another Hustler. That was such an amazing and unique project. Whichever project you decide on will be awesome.👍
I just bought a P 51 ready to fly from China for $100 and I wouldn’t have flown it if it was having issues like that on the ground. It’s good to have a friend like that try and make you feel better, but unfortunately, you definitely could’ve predicted what was going to happen. I did just subscribe and I will be anxiously waiting watching you build another airplane. Thanks for sharing your experience, I know this is a horrible way to go, but it helps a lot of beginners to see that anybody and everybody will crash at some point.
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*Sir, you talked yourself into a GO situation when, in the back of your mind, you knew it was a NO-GO. I've witnessed this more times than I care to remember.*
I appreciate your self-regulation. No cuss words at all. You're amazing
Not sure about your connection and still fly? Consider boats?
@@kraaijer To be fair we are never 100% sure about the connection, right?
@3057luis true, but here the indications were quite clear.
@@3057luis thats what range checks are for. And we get exercise when we take a 2000 yard walk to establish minimum range while the engine is running.
Sorry for the loss of that great plane.
I went to FrSky several years ago and have not lost a plane since. Lost three on Specktrum and got tired of people telling me it was pilot error. Hard to make control errors when the radio won't stay connected....
Hi, Sorry to see such a total Destruction of that Beautiful Build. My sympathy goes out to you. Regain you Spirit and Forge on!
Sorry to see that, buy your self a Frsky and ditch that crap over priced radio.
That was the best choice that you ever made specktrum is trash
bullshit, never lost a plane in 15 year spektrum. You must have done something wrong
Telemetry radios also show us received signal strength.
Chris, that was heartbreaking! So much time, effort and sweat equity went into the building of the T-28 all gone in a few seconds. All of us in this great RC hobby can empathize/sympathize with your emotion and feelings. However, in all defeats, we man up and look for our next RC victory! I look forward to your next build.
You are way more thorough than I am. But this reminds me of just another reason why I put down the planes and picked up the RC cars and I've never looked back. I hope you i've had better luck since
I think you should build another T-28. Sorry for your loss.
I'm sorry about the crash. My heart sank when I saw it head straight down. We can all sympathize with you as we know what it takes to build any plane much less the size of the T28. We appreciate you and what you do for the hobby so please keep going.
Send that transmitter to horizon to test the transmitter module, we’ve had two guys at the field with IX20’s that had issues loosing a few birds, they sent the transmitters in and found out module was emitting a weak signal and Horizon replaced them, just fruit for thought! Sucks that this happened I’ve been on a pretty sucky spell too lately.
What up LJ !! Where have you been cowboy? 🤠 😊
@@andystoybox1723 Hey Andy, I still fly just not as much I was, the kids are getting older and sports is really taking a grip on me.
@@ljhobbylife yup I hear you ! My son started baseball again , back to going to practices and games .. I need to squeeze in flights now
I would agree I had issues with system and it turned out to be the module was just a tiny bit loose , had glitching and then had nothing model was a Fokker triplane fortunately it just froze and cut the motor and it glided into hedge and survived with minor work to repair. Sometimes your lucky sometimes not had previously lost my Corsair and blamed it on the receiver but wasn’t 100%. Second model confirmed it was a transmitter.
I never buy a a first edition of a new developed radio, I wait a while until all the bugs are out
When I heard: signal loss, I immediately thought: Spektrum. I lost a Mustang the very same way, after having several signal losses on other planes, luckily high enough for a recovery.
A clubmate of mine, who is a very experienced flyer and even has built his own TX/RX combinations in the seventies, has looked in detail to his Spektrum signal loss issues and came to the conclusion that the real problem is the reconnecting time. That can take seconds, which is way too long in flight. You can notice it yourself when binding a receiver: that also takes some time. I have ditched my Spektrum, went over to Taranis/OpenTX and had zero signal loss problems since. At my club there is only one Spektrum user left. So far he’s been without accidents, so you can get lucky.
And btw, Frsky receivers don’t need satellite receivers, they even don’t exist. In my case, I mainly use a single X8R with the older protocol ACCST: an RX with 8 channels; if I need more I can add a second one and bind it to the channels 9 to 16. Nothing more needed.
So sorry for your loss Chris! It’s hard to take, 2 in a row. I know you are a Spektrum guy but I suggest trying a dual band system for your bigger builds.
It was a beautiful plane, it’s tough to see.
Been flying Futaba for 40 years, and I’ve never had an issue.
I've been a Futaba user since 1983.
Let's be honest, the Spectrum guys use it because of all the bind n flys out there from Horizon Hobby. I'm a Futaba guy too for 30 years and in no defence, my Futaba 14SG just decided one day to change all my trims, rates, mixes which affected over 6 planes in my fleet. I now write down by pen settings of each aircraft just in case it happens again. Mysterious glitch it was and cost me many days of resting and test flying each model.😢
Sorry for your loss Chris. Beautiful plane. I noticed that your wiring is straight and not twisted pair interconnections. You must use twisted pair wiring especially in giant scale ignition, turbine, electric powered systems, etc. and also keep the power and ignition wires separated as far as possible from each other as to not get electrical interference injected into the servo/receiver wiring which will definitely cause signal loss. Same with the receivers. Keep those as far as possible from ignition. If the wires must cross, they must be 90 degrees to each other to minimize cross-talk (interference). Looking forward to seeing another fly again.
Coming from a automotive background, I absolutely 💯 agree with your comment, very well could have been the issue, I want to go back and review the install video and double check for myself, I'm new to the hobby and can use all the lessons I can learn from
I have many gas/turbine aircraft with straight wiring and they all run just fine. I do run 2.4ghz with 900mhz backup FRSKY Tandem receivers.
I'd be highly suspect of that Spektrum radio. My buddy had his go into a firmware update mode while flying and it reversed one of the elevator servos in flight. Lost a nice gas spitfire. It all got sent back to Horizon and they are reviewing it.
Tough loss Chris! I have no recommendations on your build, but will say that you ignored your spidey sense which was not to fly it until you resolve your link issue. I don’t like the current spektrum rigs that don’t allow antennas on the satellites. I get more losses on the newer receivers than I do on the older ones.
@@R32pekt yeah, I have seen too many planes at my field go down because of wiring induced interference that had either Futaba or Spektrum systems. The most recent was a Spektrum setup with main receiver plus two satellites and it had straight wiring. The untwisted cables act like antennas and pick up the ignition/electrical noise and cause the receiver and servos to go crazy. After replacing the extensions and other wiring with twisted pair, the issue was resolved. I make my own twisted pair cables for all my aircraft and never had this issue.
@@flyboywblit could be possible that your flight system has a lot better internal noise suppression then Futaba or Spektrum. I don’t know of anybody at our field who uses Frsky yet. Interesting though.
As much as it hurts to watch this it actually does me some good to see other pilots going through tough loses. It reassures me that I'm not alone. Thank you for sharing this. It makes me more prepared for the next time one of my planes goes in.
Sorry for your loss Chris, I can relate - I've been flying on and off for over 50 years so I've had my share of similar crashes. For the past 9 years, I'd been flying Spektrum radios (DX9 & NX10) until 6 months ago. They always worked perfectly for me on LOS aircraft (FPV drones were a different story). Never had a hold or crash that I could contribute to the radio.
It's certainly possible the Rx is the culprit just as you suspect, but I doubt it. At least one or more of those satellites would have been getting a good signal, so the Rx is probably not the problem.
With so many holds on the ground, I would suspect something in the Tx. I've known several people with Spektrum iX radios whose RF boards were not working properly. One guy in our club had 3 crashes on an iX12 before he sent it back to HH. They replaced the RF board and he's had no problems since.
If you want the most secure link possible, I'd suggest a dual signal system such as one made by Jeti, Radiomaster or Frsky. When I quit using Spektrum 6 months ago, I purchased a Radiomaster system with internal 4 in 1 MPM and ELRS external module. The 4 in 1 MPM allows you to fly all your current models without changing Rx's. I saw one test where it operated DSMX receivers at greater distances than genuine Spektrum Tx's. And ELRS protocol is amazing with operating ranges up to 60 miles and up to 1 watt Tx power. In several range tests on RUclips it blows all the others away, including Spektrum and Futaba. Imagine how secure your link is with a model in sight a few hundred feet away. Radiomaster also offers the ELRS Gemini system with dual simultaneous signals - both on 2.4GHz. They also just came out with the ELRS Nomad system with dual simultaneous signals - one on 2.4GHz and the other on 915MHz similar to Jeti. On top of that, open source systems such as Radiomaster are not expensive. I sold my used Spektrum equipment and bought the Radiomaster system with all the options (including the amazing AG01 gimbals) and had money left over.
Jeti and Frsky have similarly good dual signal systems but are more proprietary and Jeti in particular is much more expensive.
Good luck with whatever you do.
I went from Futaba to Radiomaster, and have never once regretted doing so.
ELRS all the way
My local flying field sees at least 1 Spektrum signal loss a day. I loss signal in my Flex Innovations Cessna 170 on Spektrum and with an extra satellite antenna from no more than 200ft away. That was the last time I used Spektrum for anything other than my UMX plane collection.
I switch to Futaba's FHSS protocol 6 or 7 years ago and haven't experienced signal loss since. I love and trust my T10J so much that I bought a 2nd one as a backup, "just in case."
I know Spektrums may be rock solid most of the time, but I'll never risk my nicer planes to Spektrum again.
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I have a gen 1 dx8, and luckily, I haven't had any issues. I've heard nothing but problems with the newer spektrum stuff. Sorry for the loss brother. Don't let this one keep ya down.
Bummer. Great learning moment. Appreciate you showing the video to us!
Sorry for the loss Chris! We’ve all been there and we’re right there with you. Breath in, breath out, repeat.
Keep flying.
Sorry for your crash, it is Spectrum! Switch to Jeti, and enjoy your hobby.
I crashed tons of self built RC-airplanes when I was younger back in the 1980's.
Nowadays I just add a Gyro that I can turn on or off during flight, even in the easiest to fly models like a piper cub.
My 15 yo son laughs about me since he flies his airplanes without a gyro.
But I don't care, I just want my airplanes to come back home in one piece. ;-)
Sorry for your loss....
What brand radio are you using. I want to fit gyros to models.
@@winsor68 nothing special, hobbyeagle A3 V2 for example.
@@winsor68 The radio brand has nothing to do with the gyro, gyros can be any brand, cheap or expensive. Hobbyeagle A3 V2 for example.
I'm using different radios, old modified futaba, and newer spektrum.
I'm sorry my friend, it's happened to all of us at some point. I would like to recommend that you use transmitters and receivers with the ELRS protocol. I have been flying with this system for over a year and I have never lost the signal again, it really is really good. It can't be that a radio like spektrum still has this type of reception problems,😞
Makes me feel better that even experts have maiden failures!.
Thanks for posting this incident. It happens to all of us, except those who don't fly.
Redo the same plane.
But if I have a reception problem during the ground test, I at least change the receiver with a new one to have peace of mind. Especially on a plane of this value.
Thank you for having guts to share it. You are legend! I wish you to get her back in the sky soon, she belongs there
Thank you
Man. For us who have been following these last two builds, our hearts are breaking for you. You attention to detail only shows that this hobby is cruel sometimes.
I would love to see this one again. You’ve learned all the lessons in the build so would be smoother. But whatever you choose, you fans are supporting you.
I flew many models with just AM & FM Futaba equipment. Never had a problem or glitch. Once PCM and more “advanced” radios came into the market, problems like this were more frequent. I got out of the hobby because of that and the high cost of everything involved!
Sorry for your loss because the T-28 is a beautiful flyer.
Looks like Spektrum is not the most trusty RC system. I had similar experience with Spektrum stuff. Since i fly Futaba, i have zero issues with losing RC signal.
Keep your head up and go for your next build😊
Sorry for your loss. I moved to Jeti for that same reason. Never looked back. Best decision i made in the hobby
Totally agree with you 👍 I moved from Futaba to Jeti because after 25 years I felt that Futaba was starting to lag behind tecnologically (Reliability was never an issue with Futaba). Having moved to Jeti (DX16 v2) I can, like you, confidently state that its the best decision I've made in r/c modelling. In use Jeti is both intuative and absolutely rock solid reliable 👍
Oh nooooo…. I read the title of your video Chris and my heart just sank. Watching while knowing how it would end didn’t make it any better. You already know it’s the nature of the beast and yet we keep coming back for more because we love it. Keep the faith- things will get better!
Ugh. Man, I hate that feeling. I lost a project last weekend the exact same way. It spiraled out if the sky and there was nothing I could do. I also use Spektrum. But now I'm starting to sour on them - especially after seeing this. If you're going to build again, it would be cool to see a successful maiden with the same plane.
Happened to me on two planes on first flight. Sickening. E-flight Turbo Evolution and great Four Star 60 both with Spectrum receiver's.
So sorry for your loss it's always hard when it happends but just try and get back a memory of a flight that everything was working perfectly! I would love to see a plane just like this again!!! Take care!
What a great friend!
Always a bummer!
Usually I take a break and play with my surface R/C stuff for a bit😎
And that is why I switched to a FrSky X20RS after I got hits on my IX20. My buddy lost two planes in one day on his IX20S. Suffice to say he switched too!
Sorry for your loss Chris.
Such a bummer Chris, we are all so sorry that this happened. Chin up and on to the next one. Always enjoy your amazing expertise on building and flying skills. Thanks for sharing 🤍👍
Sorry for your loss. I know that's sucks bud. Sure did a great job was a beautiful model.
Don't give up on the T-28. It was beautifully done model. The sound was amazing!!
Made my heart drop 😢. Sorry for your loss, it was beautiful .
Oh 💩! I am so sorry, man, that sucks so much. Love the attitude you've maintained. After those two losses, I'd definitely be beyond frustrated. Thanks for the great example. Looking forward to what you do next.
I’m sure you didn’t want to post this video, but it was a class act that you did. Thank you.
Sorry for your loss! I learned the hard way that Spektrum sucks! Never again! Flew Futaba for 40 years never an issue, lost 2 planes in 6 months due to Spektrum. These days I fly only FrSky, best RF link in the business especially with the dual band Tandem system.
It would be cool to see the T-28 again one of my favorite planes but all your builds are super cool and what ever it is I know it will be great sorry for the loss of the plane I look forward to whats next
Thanks. We will revisit this one for sure only next time, it'll be an ARC (which I might already have 😆) and we'll glass and paint it so we can really detail it up.
@@Thercgeek that will be cool indeed
Sorry for your loss. 😢 This is why I took up flight simming. Crashes are too heartbreaking.
😢, Sorry for your loss Chris. Sounded amazing. Yes a second try would be great , an awesome plane .
Chris, so sorry. Stay strong in this hobby. Would love to see another T-28.
Thanks for putting the video up even though the flight ended with such a bad crash.
Sorry, I know it’s tough. I’ve only been flying a few years here now and I think I learn a little something after everyone great content thanks for being there for all of us guys who need encouragement and like to see somebody who can really excel at the Hobby and build a great scale models.
I live in germany and i have Never lost an plane with Spektrum
Oh my God, Chris. I'm devastated for you, dude. We've watched the pain staking work you put into that beautiful T-28 with such anticipation to see her airborne. And to have this hapeen... I'm heartbroken. I really wanted this to be an amazing day of flying for you. Wow. Just gutted about this one. Brutal.
Thanks for this video. I am finally convinced to sell off all of my Spektrum gear and just ordered the FrSky X20RS for the dual protocol redundancy.
Futaba all the way mate 100% no problems like that especially on A large model
Agree spectrum is junk
li had a buddy lose one of his turbine Jets on that exact same RX same exact thing... locked up just like that....... i love my Frsky X20PRo... all my expensive turbines, helis, and planes are all... 2.4 and 900Mhz always! Sorry for your loss... :(
They can all have their problems I lost an expensive Vladimir's molded glider the Futaba MZ18 WC turned itself off 20 min into the flight I didn't realize thinking it was a model issue. Tested at home the receiver and battery were good the transmitter just randomly turns off by itself with fully charged batteries just an expensive dud radio. I have never had an issue with JR or Spektrum
Totally agree!
Sooner or later you’ll have one of those satellite receivers, that Spectrum uses as a fix, be in the wrong place and you will lose the signal. I hope you never have a problem with your Spectrum because it is heartbreaking to lose a built up large scale model that you put so much effort in building. I happen to fly Futaba. Most of my flying mates fly Spectru, some fly Futaba like me. Maybe it’s the shear number of Spectrum radios out there that makes it seem like a Spectrum problem; but, non of the fliers at our field that fly Futaba have had this problem it only rears it’s ugly head with Spectrum radios. .
Sorry for the loss, she was an awesome looking plane. But I'm sure you will figure this out for the next project. Thank you for your inputs and very informative videos. 👍
So sorry to see this Chris! I know just how much work goes into this model myself, and it’s a heartbreaker when something like this happens. Best luck next time my friend👊🏼
So sorry for your loss. But honestly, I think Futaba is the way to go.
You're right, Chris. It's all part of the hobby. The ugly part. Had a similar situation last Saturday and lost my Skyradier. Lost signal right after take off, and there was nothing I could do to recover. Broke my heart. I'm going to rebuild another Skyradier (with improvements). Best of luck to you.
Tough loss Chris. Sorry to see that however, I’d like to see a re build of the T-28. Best of luck! You got this!
When you raised the gear you lost signal. I was hoping you would lower the gear quickly. Years ago composit aircraft would cause issues with inside antenna. Put 4 satellites in the fuse.
thought the same thing, wasn't like plane was 500 ft away. First sign was you had to move receiver location around in fuse being 50ft away ? wouldn't trust an aeroscout with that setup
Man, my heart goes out to you. Over the past several years most of my crashes have been receiver (brand name) related. Upgraded all of my receivers to advanced 8 channel of the same brand. Much better reliability.
Chris sorry for your loss my friend. That’s another tough one to swallow 😢. You’ll get through this rough patch and come out on the other side better than ever. You’re one heck of a modeler so I say try the T-28 again because it’s such a great flying airplane and I’m sure you would really enjoy flying it. That’s a really nice plane and I know you’ll figure out what was going on and recover from it and fly on !! Dave Kristy maidened his and all went well until the landing. Landed fine on our fabric runway but was too close to one side and ran into the grass and the nose wheel caught on something and the plane abruptly stopped and flipped over. No major damage other than busted the canopy. So hang in there and it will get better! Good luck 🍀
Sorri for your loss chris it is hard and I think you took it well
Oh man, I'm so sorry man. She was running so well. Beautiful airplane and you did such a nice job with it. 😢
Mate, that’s a valuable lesson learned. I have done it, most of us have a similar experience.
Any ??? Don’t fly. That’s the lesson.
A more experienced modeller would have realised that he should not have been having those radio problems.
When he put it on low power to do the range check, and had nothing, that was the deal breaker. That should have told him there was a serious issue with rx/tx .
I remember an Aero flight Hustler, with an ASP .46, did a beautiful hand launch while demonstrating to neighbours, forgot to switch on radio prior to hand launch…… instant kit.
Hand in there.
That's how my flight went last night with my IX14. Moving the sticks and no response. Happens from time to time in one section of the field. Sorry for your loss.
What a bummer Chris! I was really looking forward to seeing her in the air. Like you said in the video, this hobby can be tough but you'll rebuild her and make her right. 🤞🏼
Man really sorry to see that Chris. I hope you manage to find out the reason behind the signal loss. Such a shame, it was a lovely take off... looked like it would have flown beautifully.
What a shame. We all been there. I am not going to bash Spektrum as i did use it for a number of years but after an RF board issue i swapped to FRSKY and never looked back. That said i would also not discount RF interference from Ignition module its always tricky when you lose a model especially one as nice as this. I cant remember but i usually set throttle to quit and last know position for all other surfaces. your model looked like it lost all signal as it turned in as opposed to flying in last know position.
Also odd with the extra RX that you should lose all of them , I think id send TX back for inspection just to cover all bases
Good Luck with the next build
I'm sorry man, I also use Spectrum and the same thing happened to me, it's the saddest thing after all the love that one gave to the plane when assembling it, cheer up and the next one
That really was heart breaking. Beautiful bird, definitely build another - I would. Blessings.
Do another T-28 Chris! I'm so sorry this happened. Use a completely different receiver though! I maidened mine recently (the China Lake version) and it flew well, but I did run it off into tall grass on landing and flipped it, bending the nose gear strut. But it does have a great presence and deserves another shot from you!
Hey Chris, sorry for your loss buddy. It’s a bummer in more ways than one. I’d like to see another one of those T-28 it was very nice Buddy very nice
Chris you are a great flyer! Don't let your head down brother. I had the same issue a few months ago with my Cessna. I get it but you know what? Just look up and trust me things will be alright.
Can't wait for the next build!
Ouch, sorry that happened, it was an excellent build.
Chris, Just Unbelievable man. My heart goes out to you for all the time spent. That’s so odd with all the holds. I still fly Spektrum. That could happen to anybody with any protocol. Hang in there my friend. Love your builds and you such a great embassador to RC. ❤️
This the hobby we love and hate. But it’s so damn rewarding we keep coming back.
I am so sorry Sir.
❤❤❤ thank you for filming and sharing .
Chris, beautiful model and sorry for the loss. Knowledge will make the next build go faster. Hope the engine is ok. And yes, would like to see you build another for your stable.
Thanks. The engine along with radio gear are at HH at the moment. Will see what they come up with. Hoping the engine repairs aren't too expensive. Oh, and we will revisit this one for sure only next time, it'll be an ARC (which I might already have 😆) and we'll glass and paint it so we can really detail it up.
Looking forward to it!😁
Boy, that really stinks. Sorry for your loss. I have an ESM T 28 that has a Saito radial about the same size as yours that I plan on finishing up this winter. I feel your pain.
This was really heartbreaking to watch! You invested so much time, spent so many hours and this plane was getting so beautiful! I hope you can restore and reuse this beautiful engine. Just this engine was a piec of art! I hope you get this transmitter/receiver. signal loss solved to avoid such fails in the future. I am using Radiomaster Transmitters with SFHSS receivers (small helis) and FrSky receivers (for the bigger helis) and fortunately never had any signal loss. All the best and I really admire your calm reaction in the first moment after this shocking crash!!
Sorry for your loss. I put a big Extreme Flight Extra in last year. It hurts, but it fades away.
Sorry about the 2nd loss. I know the feeling, I had my DarkStar and my E-Flite F-18 Blue Angel go into 2 separate trees 5 days apart!! For about 2 hours I had both planes in 2 separate trees! Both had a lot of work invested into building/acquiring them respectively. Both were on their maiden flight, and both were due to some sort of receiver trouble. (Don’t go above 100 percent servo travel on AR620 if you are anticipating high G hairpin turns, a right rolling moment occurs with that RX when full aft stick is applied) It was fun watching this adventure, keep it up! Don’t let 2 losses of kit airplanes stop you from building another.
Man, I am so sorry to see this happen ! A beautiful model lost. My first trainer I built crashed on its maiden flight from radio drop out and 40 years later I still have no idea why
That was heartbreaking, Man! I would love to see you back on the horse with the T-28 - maybe different paint scheme to break the curse? I'm sure you will get lots of great advice from this great community - best of luck!
I had a failure with my 63" p-47, (gas leaked out fast and boom) I bit the bullet and got another one. I have been chasing bugs for 3 months and tomorrow I will maiden. Unless something comes up, anyway, you have to give it another shot. If you build a couple before going back to it, so be it. Get back on that horse. Great looking plane and sorry for your loss.
Did you do a range check with engine running from every direction at the flying field? With a plane that costly I would check and re-check connection. Sometimes checking range at home motor off means nothing. sorry for the loss.
I'm rebuilding a Carden 35% now I'm seriously reconsidering my spectrum setup.
Me too
You should
Chris, I feel your pain. Lost my last project (the PC21), due to the exact same issue!
Ioss of radio control feels like, the plane has been stolen from you! These ones really hurt the most...
So sorry Chris, such a beautiful plane and sweet sounding engine.
Oh no! Bro I am so sorry that happened! You did such an amazing job on the build! And you know what, you have a lot of guts to post this and own it like you did. Respect.... looking forward to your next Build. ✈👍🇺🇸
Really sorry for your lost plane.
Gotta say - without being harsh - the signs were in front of you.
I remember back maybe 10 years - a model shop owner rocked up at our flying field with a brand new huge petrol powered Extra. They worked for half the day on an electrical glitchy issue. Pressed on.
Other flyers attempted to tell the guy to take the problem home to fix.
But he took it into the air - it had a shorter 'flight' than you had - ending in a hole in the ground.
I'm sorry again for the lost plane. 😢
What a great sport you are Chris. I think this is the first time I saw you disappointed, but you turned that around with a smile. Would it help to tests receivers in foam planes before installing it in precious builds? Or does balsa and metal behave completely different to foam/electric set up?
absolutely devastating. so sorry mate. this hobby can be so heartbreaking.
I should of never watched that, I'm gutted! That was hard to take, man I'm sorry that happened to you. Man I almost jerked a tear, cant believe you didn't. Its a tough game at times, I've been there lots, but watching someones elses heart smashed, wow, that hurt.
If I see control issues while performing a range check on my Spektrum receiver I try to re-bind the receiver and change the frame rate to 22ms. Seems to works for my models but like others have suggested it might be the wiring.
Little late to comment, Chris. Very sorry about the crash. Really hope the Saito wasn't severely damaged. If you find the engine and accessories came out relatively unscathed, then wait out your mourning period and purchase another airframe. It should be a quicker build from that point since you have already done all the engineering and tooling. I think all would agree you had the perfect Saito set up, and it sounded so sweet. I've lost two models over the past 20 years in the "truly regrettable" category. Wrong type of battery and antenna orientation were the causes. Both occured at out of town events, and both were huge learning experiences. I decided to replace one of the two airframes right away, and am glad I did. They are impossible to find now.
Mate you better change that radio to a Futaba one, those expensive airplanes needs the best radios and i have to say Spektrum is not the best brand in my opinion, i fly jet turbines with Futaba many years ago and never had problems, sorry for your crash..damage was horrible, best regards
Only thing I don't see was a proper range check, on the range checks, was engine running, 30 paces away and doing the full 360 degree check. I have never had a failure, electric, gas or turbine with this method, which they do explain in the manual. Sorry to see man, I love my 3cyl radio on my P47, flown with the same radio.
@JohnVHRC I was going to ask this same question, but I was too lazy to write it all out.
He does one at 2:20
@@dandork20 Improper range check, motor needs to be running, and rotate 360 degrees.
@@JohnVHRCCheck for specifics according to the radio. I've read that the plane should be 1m off the ground also.
@@JohnVHRC half the video is range checking. He did it with the engine running at multiple angles (4:00 in is just one example). You didn't watch the video and just making yourself look like an ass by criticizing him of not doing something that he actually did do.
This is heartbreaking Chris. 😢
My last 2 planes and everything moving forward will be FrSky dual band system.
A redundant system just makes sense.
Oh, that sucks. So sorry, man. I still fly old analog FM 72 MHz. radios, zero problems.
I love the build series and appreciate how much detail you provide in the videos as well your published how to guides!!!!
If you could do an F5 Vigilante, that would be awesome!
Geez, I have an older DX6e (the black one, so second gen I think) and I have about 30 aircraft attached to it. I have never lost signal ever flying at several different locations. I wonder if the more expensive radios get too complicated for their own good. So sorry to see that happen. My heart dropped when it went inverted. Keep flying bud.
Sorry that happened Chris. You did a beautiful build and setup. I would love to see you do another Hustler. That was such an amazing and unique project. Whichever project you decide on will be awesome.👍
I just bought a P 51 ready to fly from China for $100 and I wouldn’t have flown it if it was having issues like that on the ground. It’s good to have a friend like that try and make you feel better, but unfortunately, you definitely could’ve predicted what was going to happen. I did just subscribe and I will be anxiously waiting watching you build another airplane. Thanks for sharing your experience, I know this is a horrible way to go, but it helps a lot of beginners to see that anybody and everybody will crash at some point.