Hi BuildSum, I really appreciate your trade knowledge and how you are across digital skills. The explanations, the graphics for 'zooming in' for detail are very helpful. Could you please consider explaining, how the broken hip and valley 'tracking to centre lines' sits just a little higher than the secondary ridge board. Cheers Ace.I,m looking forward to watching more of your informative explanations.
Hi Mate, Thanks for your comment, you have pretty much hit the nail on the head with your question. In order for the centreline of the broken hip to intersect with the centreline of the minor span ridge then it has to sit higher because it is cut shorter than the centreline so it can mitre to the side of the ridge. I have been thinking about doing a video on calculating the length of the Broken Hip so that might have some better details in it for you.
@@Buildsum cheers bud.. Oohh I know. I believe I've watched them all. Good material for younger apprentice's to keep them relavate for today's standards.
Hi Mate, technically no however if you use a Scotch Valley starting at the edge of the roof you could make it look like a Broken Hip and Valley Roof. ruclips.net/video/wSjet1eh-1Q/видео.html
Hi mate, you use the same method as the ridge for the Major Span roof however you just use the Minor span of the building instead. This video may help. ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html
Learning a lot from your channel, With the valley rafter do finding them a bit hard to understand fully, do they have a 45 cut on the top view? And a on the cheek cut what's the angle?
Hi Aaron, yes on the plan view they will have a 45 degree edge bevel however 45 degree is not the actual angle. The Plumb Bevel for the valley is the same as the Hip. If you were to set you circular saw to 45 degrees and cut along the Plumb Bevel for the hip you will get the correct edge bevel. This link might help. ruclips.net/video/inSM6upJf3s/видео.html
great video mate , thanks , but how do we actually do this , like how do we cut it all whats the methods , i can see the step by step procedure , but how to do it...
Hi Mate, you can get trusses in metal however as far as building them piece by piece like a cut roof, it would be possible but i have never seen it done. I would say that it would take a long time to do and therefore be expensive.
Hello Buildsum! I'm a UniSA student and we need to do a roof model as a assignment. Part of this assignment is find some constructor, get some plans and construct a model 1:20. I really enjoyed your conventional roof and I'd like to make a model inspired on your roof. Can you send me this file? I will really show the results after ;) Thanks
Your hip and/or valley was off slightly, shouldn't the cross point of the hip and valley centrelines meet over the centreline of the ridge board? Also wouldn't the roof be more structurally sound if the hip extended all the way and the secondary ridge was shortened?
Hi Fav Yes it does look like the line don't meet in the picture, however, remember that 2 of these lines are running at the pitch on the roof and there is no guarantee that the view that you see is exactly straight down. So yes the centre lines should meet over the centre line of the ridge board. As for continuing the hip through it might be more structurally sound however it would require all of the rafters below to be cut around it and use alot more materials so it depends on what your preference is.
Buildsum the reason I knew they weren't in perfect alignment is because it looks like your hip and valley were only single bevelled, to meet at the precise point either the hip or valley would need to be double bevelled, whichever one is inserted last will need to be cut twice on the compound miter saw. As far as which way to frame it I've seen it done all 3 ways, it all depends which board gets installed first, the hip,ridge, or valley. Since valley rafters take the most load I like to leave them the shortest. Good video, I really need to learn SketchUp that looks really useful!
Very cool except that it would be really helpful if you included the basic math. In this video you say nothing about how to get the broken hip jack rafter that intersects the valley. How do you calculate that length. To be honest when I do this I don't calculate nothing after I get the common rafters😀
Hi Mate, all the calculations are in the Pattern Rafter videos for a Gable and Hip roof. ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html ruclips.net/video/TcN3O7owg9I/видео.html
My hip isn't broken. 1914 house. It comes all way down--but not to corner. So the corner comes down close to is a Gable end front of house. So all these gable rafters are cut so that they creep into the uncut hip. I will send you a link to Cloud pics if you want to help me decide how to sister this 100 year old mess. Because as you probably can guess they are sagging in this area because there's obviously no support like you're showing below the roof.
Hi Buildsum , Brilliant as usual !!! My query is that , How if we could cut rafter angle and bird mouth setting and attached to ridge then we could determine the hang over and simply cut it ?? if it work this way I am wondering .Thanks !
I find the hip roof more similar to guitar pracing patterns which is why i think i like it, coming from an acoustic guitar making background. I will post the 20x20 once i finish the purlins and struts just so u can see that for sure ur making internet protoge's out here
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Thank you so much ur videos help me a lot❤
Thanks!
Thanks Mate.
Hi BuildSum, I really appreciate your trade knowledge and how you are across digital skills. The explanations, the graphics for 'zooming in' for detail are very helpful.
Could you please consider explaining, how the broken hip and valley 'tracking to centre lines' sits just a little higher than the secondary ridge board.
Cheers Ace.I,m looking forward to watching more of your informative explanations.
Hi Mate, Thanks for your comment, you have pretty much hit the nail on the head with your question. In order for the centreline of the broken hip to intersect with the centreline of the minor span ridge then it has to sit higher because it is cut shorter than the centreline so it can mitre to the side of the ridge. I have been thinking about doing a video on calculating the length of the Broken Hip so that might have some better details in it for you.
@@Buildsum Yes we would love a video and calculating broken hip :) Thanks for your work.
beautiful but how do you get center of the cause I don't understand the half span you are using
Hi Mate, this video might help you out with that
ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html
Love the vids mate. Keep them coming.
Hi Samoan, thanks for your comment, there are plenty there to look at and a new one every fortnight.
@@Buildsum cheers bud.. Oohh I know. I believe I've watched them all. Good material for younger apprentice's to keep them relavate for today's standards.
Nice demo. how can it be possible in rectangular shape home with no extension
Hi Mate, technically no however if you use a Scotch Valley starting at the edge of the roof you could make it look like a Broken Hip and Valley Roof.
ruclips.net/video/wSjet1eh-1Q/видео.html
How do u find the height for the 2nd ringe
Hi mate, you use the same method as the ridge for the Major Span roof however you just use the Minor span of the building instead. This video may help.
ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html
Very good explanation. Regards, Gary.
Thanks Gary, Glad you like it
Awesome vid mate really helped me with my apprenticeship theory
Hi Lewis, thanks for your comment, glad you like it.
Id love to learn how to draw on SketchUp like you, whats the best way to go about it, how did you learn to draw 3D?
Hi Mate, for me it was all just trail and error, but there are plenty of videos on RUclips that can show you how to do it.
Learning a lot from your channel, With the valley rafter do finding them a bit hard to understand fully, do they have a 45 cut on the top view? And a on the cheek cut what's the angle?
Hi Aaron, yes on the plan view they will have a 45 degree edge bevel however 45 degree is not the actual angle. The Plumb Bevel for the valley is the same as the Hip. If you were to set you circular saw to 45 degrees and cut along the Plumb Bevel for the hip you will get the correct edge bevel.
This link might help. ruclips.net/video/inSM6upJf3s/видео.html
great video mate , thanks , but how do we actually do this , like how do we cut it all whats the methods , i can see the step by step procedure , but how to do it...
Hi, Nick, I have a playlist that goes through most of this for Hip roofing.
ruclips.net/video/UXkWyNcNM7g/видео.html
Is it possible to bulid this design with metal frame I mean metal and aluminium frame
Hi Mate, you can get trusses in metal however as far as building them piece by piece like a cut roof, it would be possible but i have never seen it done. I would say that it would take a long time to do and therefore be expensive.
Need you on the framing crew ...
Hi Mate, Yeah I'm a bit past doing that for a living anymore. Thanks for the offer.
Nice video so clear
Thanks, Dennis, Glad you like it.
Thank you. Very clear.
Thanks, Chris, I'm glad you like it.
Dude that was the shit. Thanks alot bro Mahalo 🤙🤙🤙shakas for life. I totally understand. you made it so much easier to understand.
Thanks Mate, glad you like it.
Thank you for this video sir
Hi Marline, Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you like it.
Hello Buildsum!
I'm a UniSA student and we need to do a roof model as a assignment.
Part of this assignment is find some constructor, get some plans and construct a model 1:20. I really enjoyed your conventional roof and I'd like to make a model inspired on your roof. Can you send me this file? I will really show the results after ;)
Thanks
+Pedro Guilherme HI Pedro
sure what is your email adress
+Buildsum Thank you very much
My email is pedrogfernandes16@gmail.com
Fantastic. brilliant video
Thank you kind sir!
Your hip and/or valley was off slightly, shouldn't the cross point of the hip and valley centrelines meet over the centreline of the ridge board? Also wouldn't the roof be more structurally sound if the hip extended all the way and the secondary ridge was shortened?
Hi Fav Yes it does look like the line don't meet in the picture, however, remember that 2 of these lines are running at the pitch on the roof and there is no guarantee that the view that you see is exactly straight down. So yes the centre lines should meet over the centre line of the ridge board.
As for continuing the hip through it might be more structurally sound however it would require all of the rafters below to be cut around it and use alot more materials so it depends on what your preference is.
Buildsum the reason I knew they weren't in perfect alignment is because it looks like your hip and valley were only single bevelled, to meet at the precise point either the hip or valley would need to be double bevelled, whichever one is inserted last will need to be cut twice on the compound miter saw.
As far as which way to frame it I've seen it done all 3 ways, it all depends which board gets installed first, the hip,ridge, or valley. Since valley rafters take the most load I like to leave them the shortest.
Good video, I really need to learn SketchUp that looks really useful!
Very cool except that it would be really helpful if you included the basic math. In this video you say nothing about how to get the broken hip jack rafter that intersects the valley. How do you calculate that length. To be honest when I do this I don't calculate nothing after I get the common rafters😀
Hi Mate, all the calculations are in the Pattern Rafter videos for a Gable and Hip roof.
ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/TcN3O7owg9I/видео.html
Hey man great video, quick question though, how do you determine where the hip starts?
my question 🙋 too
Hi what program would you use to do this?
+Adrian Kelly Hi Adrian I use Google Sketch Up to do all my drawings
+Buildsum thank you and love your videos! So helpful!
My hip isn't broken. 1914 house. It comes all way down--but not to corner. So the corner comes down close to is a Gable end front of house. So all these gable rafters are cut so that they creep into the uncut hip. I will send you a link to Cloud pics if you want to help me decide how to sister this 100 year old mess. Because as you probably can guess they are sagging in this area because there's obviously no support like you're showing below the roof.
Hi Darrin, I got your email I will respond to that.
Brilliant
Thanks, glad you like it.
Hi Buildsum ,
Brilliant as usual !!!
My query is that , How if we could cut rafter angle and bird mouth setting and attached to ridge then we could determine the hang over and simply cut it ?? if it work this way I am wondering .Thanks !
+jivara sulaiman Hi Jivara
Try these videos they should help
ruclips.net/video/a0SS8lwqf7g/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/TcN3O7owg9I/видео.html
Thanks a lot !!!
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dang man thats a fine ruf there! help meeee hahaha
just tried my first hip roof on a 20x20 practice structure on day 4 of sketchup. your other vid helped me a ton. Thanks!
I find the hip roof more similar to guitar pracing patterns which is why i think i like it, coming from an acoustic guitar making background. I will post the 20x20 once i finish the purlins and struts just so u can see that for sure ur making internet protoge's out here
Hi Mate, thanks for your comments, good luck with your roof. I look forward to seeing it.