One thing that is noticeable is the unconfortable ride the passengers get. On the real trains the buffers would be touching or preloaded by the connecting chain. On the model it would be good to have the 'D' 's of the coupling in contact at all times. This may be achieved by bending the hook section slightly to reduce clearance, use magnetic couplers, or a solid link replacing the couplings between coaches (drawbar). OK for short trains.
Buffers are RETRACTED out of use on stock fitted with Buckeye couplings, as the buffers cause derailments in curves if not retracted on such stock. What do you think the Pullman Rubbing Bar" is for ????
much better to have the L&YR engine running with these in my opinion. I opted for the GER, LYR, Midland & GCR from this batch. Was rather hoping for batch 3 with SDJR & Cali to finish my LMS, LNER connections, but alas. I have the GNR, LNER, LMS, LNWR & LMS from batch 1
RAILWAY LAW - & THE ADDITIONAL COST OF ANY DCC PARTS ! Until the Law was changed in 1978, interior lighting in railway carriages was not allowed during daylight hours (except for table & reading lights controllable by passengers). It was of course part of the Guards duties to switch train lights on and off for the passage of a tunnel. Further they gave Guards periscopes or lookouts, as Guards were also responsible for watching for lineside signals. These lighting regulations were in connection with the laws covering the duties of train Guards (who were called Guards because they were the train security Guard). Which did not normally allow a Guard to leave the vicinity of his Guards van, (as monies & mails might be carried) !!! So interior lights in Model carriages are virtually useless unless you operate your layout in the pitch darkness. Not itself a good idea, as sooner or later you will damage your layout or rolling stock. I think its time to put many of these absurd and unrealistic "gimmicks" to bed. Especially when a non "DCC" or "non Gimmick" laden version is not made available. This especially afflicts Locomotives, as I for one am sick and tired of having to remove the troublesome wiring method applied to all locos for the benefit of DCC users. And all that useless DCC junk adds at least 20% to the retail price !!!!
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 I guess the manufacturer's can't please everyone. Personally, I run my trains far more in the evening when coach lighting would be on. As the Hattons coaches are supplied without lights, they cover either view point. If one doesn't want lighting, no need to fit it
Why didn't you buy the carriages fitted with lights? You wouldn't have had to do it yourself. I'm sorry, but I don't approve of two Guard's Vans being used. You only need one. The Luggage Van ought to be at the back of the consist. I'm not keen on the L & Y tank engine, even though the livery matches. Essentially, liveries don't have to match. A mismatched LMS Jinty would suit the coaches just as well, or a Tiny Terrier Tank Engine. Small tender engines suit the coaches too. I have a pair of 4-wheeled Hornby GWR coaches without lights, and a pair of LNER Teak 6-wheeled coaches with lights. Factory fitted lights work a bit better than lights fitted by you.
@kellyashfordtrains2642 hattons stopped pre fitting lights so no choice. It's quite relaxing. Poor unloved 2-4-2 L&Y needs to have a little run out....
@@vcs00railway Well I'm sorry but I don't approve of your guard's departure protocol - surely he should be calling "all aboard" only after he has blown his whistle and held his green flag at arm's length... Some commenters shouldn't be taken too seriously here :P 2 guard coaches and luggage at the front is the way I like my 4-wheel sets too, so I guess I'm also wrong. That consist looks absolutely mint, and if that's the only way to get working lights it is absolutely worth it. Is the flickering part of the circuit? And, have you considered changing the couplers for something with less of a gap?
@PalmersPhotos 😁 my son works for the railway so I ought to be better with the "all aboard " The lights do have a small stay alive capacitor but it's one size too small to carry enough charge. I changed one on another coach and the lights don't then flicker. I haven't yet changed the couplings to magnetic because with non bogie coaches magnetic can cause derailment. Since the video I have glossed the purple umber livery leaving the brown unglossed and it looks stunning and more like some of the stock photos I've seen. Glad you liked the video
@@vcs00railway I agree about the magnetic couplings, even on the gentler curves on the club layout the Genesis coaches would buffer lock and derail, however, the Hornby 6 wheelers not so bad. It's the stark white roofs that I hate. My SECR set from batch 1 have been toned down and weathered, but not uniformly across the rake, and they look so much better. As a rule I try to eliminate pure white and most dense black from my layout generally. Ok, so they aren't strictly accurate for any particular Company, but for most of us compromises get made as life is so short. 00 gauge is wrong and some folk think that some train consists are erroneous, but it doesn't bother me.
@MrDavil43 quite right, these coaches are not necessarily strictly accurate, but on balance they look the part, and the livery application is excellent. I agree with you about the white roofs
Some very fine models! I have three of the L&YR ones myself! Also, how come one of the six wheelers is missing its center wheels?
@Hiawatha_Productions , well spotted! I removed that wheel just for the video because it was tending to derail on my track
@@vcs00railway Alright, thanks for the clarification!
One thing that is noticeable is the unconfortable ride the passengers get. On the real trains the buffers would be touching or preloaded by the connecting chain. On the model it would be good to have the 'D' 's of the coupling in contact at all times. This may be achieved by bending the hook section slightly to reduce clearance, use magnetic couplers, or a solid link replacing the couplings between coaches (drawbar). OK for short trains.
Buffers are RETRACTED out of use on stock fitted with Buckeye couplings, as the buffers cause derailments in curves if not retracted on such stock. What do you think the Pullman Rubbing Bar" is for ????
much better to have the L&YR engine running with these in my opinion. I opted for the GER, LYR, Midland & GCR from this batch. Was rather hoping for batch 3 with SDJR & Cali to finish my LMS, LNER connections, but alas. I have the GNR, LNER, LMS, LNWR & LMS from batch 1
@chrisalan1540 S&DJR would be lovely. I kept 5 of the Hornby version, and ordered the Rapido bogie S&DJR plus rather too many! 😃
RAILWAY LAW - & THE ADDITIONAL COST OF ANY DCC PARTS !
Until the Law was changed in 1978, interior lighting in railway carriages was not allowed during daylight hours (except for table & reading lights controllable by passengers). It was of course part of the Guards duties to switch train lights on and off for the passage of a tunnel. Further they gave Guards periscopes or lookouts, as Guards were also responsible for watching for lineside signals. These lighting regulations were in connection with the laws covering the duties of train Guards (who were called Guards because they were the train security Guard). Which did not normally allow a Guard to leave the vicinity of his Guards van, (as monies & mails might be carried) !!!
So interior lights in Model carriages are virtually useless unless you operate your layout in the pitch darkness. Not itself a good idea, as sooner or later you will damage your layout or rolling stock. I think its time to put many of these absurd and unrealistic "gimmicks" to bed. Especially when a non "DCC" or "non Gimmick" laden version is not made available. This especially afflicts Locomotives, as I for one am sick and tired of having to remove the troublesome wiring method applied to all locos for the benefit of DCC users. And all that useless DCC junk adds at least 20% to the retail price !!!!
@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 I guess the manufacturer's can't please everyone. Personally, I run my trains far more in the evening when coach lighting would be on. As the Hattons coaches are supplied without lights, they cover either view point. If one doesn't want lighting, no need to fit it
Why didn't you buy the carriages fitted with lights? You wouldn't have had to do it yourself. I'm sorry, but I don't approve of two Guard's Vans being used. You only need one. The Luggage Van ought to be at the back of the consist. I'm not keen on the L & Y tank engine, even though the livery matches. Essentially, liveries don't have to match. A mismatched LMS Jinty would suit the coaches just as well, or a Tiny Terrier Tank Engine. Small tender engines suit the coaches too. I have a pair of 4-wheeled Hornby GWR coaches without lights, and a pair of LNER Teak 6-wheeled coaches with lights. Factory fitted lights work a bit better than lights fitted by you.
@kellyashfordtrains2642 hattons stopped pre fitting lights so no choice. It's quite relaxing. Poor unloved 2-4-2 L&Y needs to have a little run out....
@@vcs00railway Well I'm sorry but I don't approve of your guard's departure protocol - surely he should be calling "all aboard" only after he has blown his whistle and held his green flag at arm's length... Some commenters shouldn't be taken too seriously here :P
2 guard coaches and luggage at the front is the way I like my 4-wheel sets too, so I guess I'm also wrong.
That consist looks absolutely mint, and if that's the only way to get working lights it is absolutely worth it. Is the flickering part of the circuit? And, have you considered changing the couplers for something with less of a gap?
@PalmersPhotos 😁 my son works for the railway so I ought to be better with the "all aboard "
The lights do have a small stay alive capacitor but it's one size too small to carry enough charge. I changed one on another coach and the lights don't then flicker. I haven't yet changed the couplings to magnetic because with non bogie coaches magnetic can cause derailment. Since the video I have glossed the purple umber livery leaving the brown unglossed and it looks stunning and more like some of the stock photos I've seen. Glad you liked the video
@@vcs00railway I agree about the magnetic couplings, even on the gentler curves on the club layout the Genesis coaches would buffer lock and derail, however, the Hornby 6 wheelers not so bad. It's the stark white roofs that I hate. My SECR set from batch 1 have been toned down and weathered, but not uniformly across the rake, and they look so much better. As a rule I try to eliminate pure white and most dense black from my layout generally. Ok, so they aren't strictly accurate for any particular Company, but for most of us compromises get made as life is so short. 00 gauge is wrong and some folk think that some train consists are erroneous, but it doesn't bother me.
@MrDavil43 quite right, these coaches are not necessarily strictly accurate, but on balance they look the part, and the livery application is excellent. I agree with you about the white roofs