The Assault Weapon Ban - 15 Years Later
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- The US Federal Assault Weapon Ban expired on September 13th, 2004.
In this video Sinistral Rifleman discusses the cultural and industry impacts of the ban, the rifles used during the ban, and what has changed since.
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The ban primarily taught people how to maneuver around bans to get guns that were damn near identical in capabilities to those that were banned. As a non-American who kept up with American "gun culture" from the mid-90s onward, I always found that hilarious. It's a prime example of half-assing a law.
yep and they are still doing it today with the 2019 AWB. they just need to be blunt and write a bill that bans all semi auto rifles. i dont agree with it, but logically speaking its the only way to actually ban "assault weapons".
even in California you can still own an AR15, but it just looks stupid. the law does absolutely nothing to stop a criminal from converting his goofy cali compliant AR15 into a normal AR15.
Because it was unconstitutional my dear foreign friend. Unconstitutional laws cannot be effectively enforced, especially without wipespread public support. This is in essence why the law could not have been, whole assed..
There were already a ton of examples of weapon laws being bypassed, allegedly that's how the Messer (or Kriegsmesser) became popular, famous... a thing.
Law said you couldn't carry a sword around, law defined what the standard for sword was and what made a sword. People made a different sword, went around the set standards - worked fine...
In the same way, California keeps driving innovation. You can now have a standard mag release on a 'featureless' gun, yep, no more bullet button.
Besides bans of firearms not working in reducing crime, they can easily be sidestepped by the law abiding without breaking the law :)
It funny really, if the AWB didn't happen in 1994 the AR-15 probably wouldn't even be all that popular today.
Corinthian Yep, I can confirm that they were a fringe low volume sales rifle back then. I also remember all the hell and dammnation when the Maddi AK was first imported.
@@winkleried What was as or more popular then? Aside from the obvious handguns/shotguns etc that are still popular today. Was there something that filled a similar niche or market before ARs?
@@theangrycheeto CMP Garands, probably.
Maybe that was the whole point. Get as many modern rifles in the hands of the people.
@@theangrycheeto The Mini 14 was probably the main one.
That law sold ARs and AKs to me. I was almost exclusively interested in turn of the twentieth century military rifles. Bush I and Bill Clinton got me into semi-autos.
Same here. I never had any interest in AR's or AK's, I preferred old school milsurp rifles. Once the ban came, I had to see what the big deal with semi-auto's was.
did you get into full autos? back in 94 i bet that an M16 lower was still somewhat affordable. MAC's were probably under $1000.
im a young guy so ever since ive been an adult an M16 lower cost like $25,000.
it sucks...
Once you have the chance to handle one for some plinking fun, there isn't any going back. It is just too engaging of a sport to not enjoy. My other firearms give nowhere near the joy I have out camping in nature with ranged targets and a can of ammo, except maybe the increasingly rare hunting season I go on, where I admittedly prefer my bolt action Model 70.
Same, I was a black powder collector... now...
I was 4 years old when the AWB expired. Last year when I turned 18 I scraped together enough money from my fast food job so I could buy my first AR, a Ruger 556 for 399 dollars. I want to say how grateful I am to everyone that fought through the AWB and more recent pushes for gun control so that I would have this opportunity to exercise my rights. From the bottom of my heart, Thank You.
You're welcome ;D
If you think the AWB was bad , try going thru the 80s watching all my older buddies convert their own class 3 and when the time came I no longer could .
We lose freedom a generation at a time.
did you buy any transferables before the price went way up? i imagine shortly after the 86 ban they were still affordable, but now an M16 cost like $25,000. im 18 so i was born into an age where full autos are only for the rich =(
Sometimes I dream that I'm in pre-'68 and have the foresight to see the gun control stuff taking more steps. Especially with the '93 Brady Act, it seemed like 'guns' started being associated with 'killing', which shouldn't be how Americans at large perceive firearms (in my opinion). I know the NFA in '34 was the biggie, but it wasn't too long ago that gun control was more relaxed and it seemed the more they placed restrictions, the more it demonized them. At least when they laid down a bunch of regulation in '68, they had the machine gun amnesty for folks with autos not on the record books, but we have a lot of work to do restoring some consumer control with post '86 autos and foreign-made rifles; Then, hopefully the Hearing Protection Act, since suppressors falling under the NFA is just silly. I'm not asking for zero restrictions, but I am asking for a scaling back of some of the government overreach.
Same here my neighbor had a class 3 uzi he traded for a thompson right before the ban.
And every generation believes they already have "too much" freedom without studying history to find out how much has already been lost.
@@GunFunZS we will never add it back without a real fight
“He had discovered a great law of human action, without knowing it--namely, in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing, it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to attain.”
- Mark Twain
If the government doesn't want you to have it, then it MUST be good.
Ha, that reminds me of drug culture in a lot of ways.
meth
Just imagine how good these asbestos insulations are!
When C-71 happened, I felt it. Even tough the Conservatories are going to reverse all that disgrace from the Liberals once they win, for the time being, I feel so ashamed that the VZ-58 pattern got prohibited by name for no reasons. It was one of the best sellers in Canada from what I know.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
"As long as Americans maintain their sense of independence...and young people continue...playing games..."
Oh hey, they're trying to ban all that too...
shatara42 freedom is under assault on many fronts.
I swear some other countries tried or are still governing with 'an iron fist'. I'm so grateful to live in the USA, in one of the free States, where gun control is very relaxed and crime rates are very low.
Eeeh, they're trying to ban Lootboxes in games, which are a demonstrable detriment to developing minds. Also, you can't afford an AR, if you've compulsively gambled away your money on Lootboxes.
@@whitescar2 The market should still boycott games with lootboxes in them. The gaming community seems to forget just how much money EA lost from backlash surrounding Battlefront 2.
But then again, game companies seem to not care how thirsty legislators are to capture the industry through vague stipulations of what a lootbox is, as with how blatant it can be in E & T-rated titles (not even sticking with M games, a rating most game retailers wont sell you unless you show ID, something that mommy buying Timmy GTA5 seems to forget).
If game companies gave the pretense that they weren't marketing to children to run a chance at having Timmy use mommy's credit card to spend $1000 on duplicate skins (read: whales), the market would likely solve itself over time and there'd be less justification of scrutiny by regulators. But of course, reality is often disappointing.
@@Spitfire200 "The market" is just as much of a religious deity as any other. As long as you BELIEVE and do absolutely nothing else, everything will magically fix itself.
It has nothing to do with "Timmy," it has to do with "literal fucking gambling for shit that doesn't even have monetary value." This is a perfect demonstration that the market does not regulate itself and never will. The only thing that has had an impact is, in fact, the government getting involved.
EA didn't "lose" money from Battlefront 2. They just didn't make as much as they hoped from it. And they still have no reason to give a shit, because their real money comes from FIFA. Always has. That's where it all started.
What is it going to take for you people to realize that YOU have absolutely no power here? THEY have the money. THEY have the power. They will use that power to make more money. They will use that money to gain more power. The only thing they fear is something with more power than them. Like, you know, a military and a court. Any other problem can be quietly fixed with enough money. They've gotten to the point where they will literally send PIs *_to your house_* to intimidate you into doing what they want. They are two steps away from the fucking mafia.
EA has been voted the "worst company in America" multiple years in a row, and they're still on top of the world. You think they give a shit about your mythical "market?" Please. They OWN the fucking market.
My dad was a gun smith and tool & die maker by trade. And I remember My dad was so pissed that day because he was getting parts kits and all types of stuff out of country. Within 3 weeks of the Bill my dad lost his ways of getting weapon parts. After my dad passed away in 2006 I took over his tools and firearms. My dad always made beautiful works of art when it came to firearms from the 1800's to modern day. I believe firearms are in are DNA and I see firearms as someone's work of art know mater what your thing is. Thank you all out there for keeping this alive all over the 🌎.
Some people were questioning the match content inclusion.
1) This was originally made for my channel that is primarily match content. Karl liked it and decided to share it here because the most views anything on my channel gets is about ~1000 (thanks algorithm). Thanks to Karl for choosing to share this because the information is important for the firearms community.
2) Secondly its to show how using a period rifle effects performance and there was a reliability issue with period parts shown in the video. I normally win my division and place towards the top at this match. Period rifle features easily hold me back about 10-15%. For comparison you can watch the other Rio Black Rifle Match videos on my channel.
You still shot that match better than I would have with fully modern gear, haha. Love your content, Sinistral. Keep up the good work out there
Thanks for explaining. I was actually very confused about the match content and had thought that I started watching a different video. All in all, the video was great, but a little explanation leading into the match content would have helped to make the transition feel more natural.
I was a little confused at first, but I'm glad it got cleared up. Just some constructive criticism. Mayeb in a follow up video, put two similar runs side by side. One with the ban era rifle (maybe even use 10 rounders) and your modern set up. That way we can see a very clear and contrasting difference between the two setups. The same way Karl side by sided a run between you and your AR and him with his K98.
@@chrisclark6161
Shooting the match twice isn't realistic because it fills up. Here's the data from the match this year:
March 2019 Rio Black Rifle Match using CAV-15 MKII with MilSpec Trigger and Red Dot 1/6 Limited and 17/77 (71.86%)
April 2019 Rio Black Rifle Match using Action Carbine with Red Dot and 3X Magnifier 1/14 Stealth, 4/68 Over All (84.64%)
May 2019 Rio Black Rifle using BRN-180 Build with Mil-Spec Trigger and Red Dot 2/8 Limited, 12/65 Over All (82.08%)
June 2019 Rio Black Rifle using Dedicated 3 Gun Rifle with 1-6x: 1/15 Stealth Division, 5/76 Over All (87.38%)
July 2019 Rio Black Rifle using Dedicated 3 Gun Rifle with 1-6x 1/9 Stealth, 2/74 Over All (78.87%)
August 2019 Rio Black Rifle Using Action Carbine with Dot and 3X Magnifier 1/10 Stealth, 4/68 Over All (78.18%)
September Rio Black Rifle Using Retro Ban Gun With Aimpoint 2/6 Limited, 27/76 Over All (68.52%)
I was excited when Karl said you would be in the video. The match content made it even better. Thank you for reminding me that I need to check your channel more often. Thank you for your contribution to the shooting sports.
I might be laughing at that dead pan "I'd rather shoot Goa'uld with 5.56 than 5.7”. maybe.
I think Russell's dead pan switch is glued in place
SgtKOnyx 9mm is an option too.
**Eyes flashes**
JAFFA KREE!
It makes sense, think they went with P90s for volume of fire, but 5.56 is what 5.7 emulates, and clearly M16s were plenty good at plugging snakeheads and penetrating jaffa armor and... And I'm a dork. It's what I am.
I never had an interest in AR-15's, up until the gunsalesman of the century opened his big yap. Now both I and my wife own one. I went retro and got an AR-15A2 with a 20" barrel, my wife went with a 16" carbine. I was hit with a touch of nostalgia, because an M-16A2 was my primary duty weapon while in the military in the 90's. I've since changed the furniture to all magpul and put a vortex 3X prism scope on it as a poor mans ACOG. Nowadays, I use it for coyote hunting during the winter... and I thought i didn't have a use for one. HA!
Never tell an American they can't own something.
Went out in December 2012 shooting clay pigeons with my brother-in-law and he let me try his stock AR-15; It was so much fun plinking with that at age 35 I finally got around to building my own (and by building, I mean pairing a completed 18" upper with a completed lower, hehe). Man, they're a great platform and for a guy like me in Utah, just loads of fun as I live out in nature. I actually changed my magpul MOE furniture for a FAB Defense AGR-43 pistol grip after handling my FFL's precision setup and a Daniel Defense stock. I am running the poor man's whatever scope with a Primary Arms 1-6x ACCS, though I'd _love_ to get an ACOG on there someday.
The A2 is not 'retro'. They were still issued new, into the 2910s. We invaded Iraq with the A2. The only reason we have the flat top, is because everyone went to the M4, because they were riding everywhere in cans and so needed an improved sighting system, to compensate for the M4 short sight radius. This brought on the increased use of low magnification optics and thus eventually the flat top. So... I guess you can thank roadside bombs, in Iraq, for the current iteration of the AR.
I built an m16 a1 with original Vietnam stock and triangular handguard.
Middle Outdoorsman thank you for your service sir!
I remember Used GI AR mags selling for $30+ dollars and Pre ban Glock mags for $99 each
Michael Hatfield still like that in Massachusetts
Michael Hatfield it’s still that way in Massachusetts
About a year before the ban expired, I sold a preban 33rd glock mag for $120. I also sold a preban Beta C-Mag around the same timeframe for $400. I was rather confident that the ban was going to expire, ...but not so confident as to sell all of my mags.
I sold a pre-ban 30 online during the ban for $65. But it was a Colt and niw ARVN with Vietnamese printing on the wrapper.
I remember $30 being a good price for a 30 round AR mag. Now I wait until I find brand new mags for less then $10 before I buy.
Old enough to have experienced GCA, I can say that gun control has always influenced my decisions. Had there never been any gun control laws in my lifetime, I would probably have fewer guns and trust government more.
The Clinton AWB got me interested in gun laws. I grew up under the ban, and it had a profound influence on my opinion of gun laws. I absolutely hate the fact that AWB's ban guns based on cosmetic features. It's the absolute pinnacle of idiocy. You either ban guns (which I vehemently oppose), or you don't. Cosmetics don't alter core function, and that function doesn't really dramatically alter lethality. Guns which can take advantage of the rate of fire allowed by semi-auto actions, are correspondingly lower power in cartridge to put more of those rounds on target.
Slap wooden furniture on there or run pink/colors of the rainbow semi-auto platforms and you're good to go. It'd be good times to see someone run one with a 'Bernie 2020' or similar bumper stickers, or better yet, custom DNC paint job.
Here in Australia they were talking about banning bolt action hunting rifles if they looked to military just because the government said they look dangerous.. things are crazy over there with your completely illegal AWB but here we don't have a bill of rights or constitutional rights so things are much worse and when the government took our guns they followed up with removing all rights and freedoms.. im jealous of America big time since you still have most rights and freedoms.. fight all gun restrictions as much as possible or America with end up like Australia
Which of the features was cosmetic?
If they are purely cosmetic - what's the problem?
I was juuust old enough to remember Regan's Ban on automatics and open bolts and the distinguishing features between the ban's always had me wondering
Why the heck did a temporary ban on bayonets and pistol grips inspire more response, more push back and more politics then an actual full ban?!
And for the life of me to this day, the only answer I can come up with is showman-ship. Regan was just more attached to Americana in appearance despite being more extreme then Clinton.
And ever since I have been *very very* wary of any advise that follows party lines, I read proposals carefully, and ignore the NRA.
I was a kid, in a gun-free home, for the most of the ban. I remember distinctly the first time I heard anything about "assault weapons" in fifth grade in 1999, and (at that time) thinking it made sense that they were banned-after all, I trusted what my teacher said, and while I (like every other boy in my class) was fascinated by weapons and constantly checked out the books in the school library that had the most information and best pictures of various types of guns and knives, I thought it was awfully scary to imagine some freak hoodlums settling their differences in the streets with these guns! I started to realize how silly it was as I got older, although I had no idea the ban was poised to sunset in '04. By that time, I had a bb-gun, a pellet gun, and a 12-gauge my dad had gotten me for hunting purposes, and spent just about every spare moment shooting cans and wishing I had someone to teach me (youtube wasn't a thing yet, and while my dad was happy to see me shooting, he didn't really know anything marksmanship at the time). By the time I realized the ban had expired, I was in college, had been reintroduced to firearms by a friend, and although I thought it unnecessary and over-the-top at first, before too long I came to understand the ban, the politics behind it, the realities of the world, and the importance of the second amendment. So, at a time when I owned a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a .22 pistol, the next logical step, for me, was to build an AR-15. It's still my favorite gun, ever, and the most important one I own, for many reasons.
nettles89 that’s somewhat similar to my 2A awakening. I was always fascinated by guns. I knew violent crime was bad and criminals use guns. Also I come from a black family of very smart, educated people. The overwhelming majority of my family doesn’t believe in guns. Especially Because they don’t want me to be a “gang banger”
Funny tho that Canada doesn't have the second amendment and we don't live in fear constantly... Wondering why and what caused us to not be scared!... Oh maybe because not everyone can walk around with a gun in concealed carry or anything.... You don't have a gun problem, you have a cultural problem. There's many countries with gun ownership laws that don't have as many gun crimes, and FAR LESS school shootings, difference is their culture and respect of others.
Yeah, you sound like a variation of me. I've changed over the years in a similar way to you.
I can't believe you trusted your teachers after 3rd grade.
The ban did one thing and one thing only: Made the AR the most popular rigle in the US.
I bought my first rifle, single shot Remington 22, on or about 1960 at age 7 with S&H Green Stamps, Mom gave me the books. I lived through the Clinton Militia Gun Ban with anger in my soul. The idea that some frightened Know-Nothing had the power to deny our basic Right to arm for defense of country and self still angers me. We must not let it happen again. The time is long past for those who live by the Constitution to say "Nay" to the anti-civil rights bigots and reclaim our Rights as Free Americans.
Yay, I have a 1957 Remington 22 'Sportmaster', so basically a 'gallery gun'. My father bought it back then for his elderly grandfather that left it outside during the entire winter, so my father cleaned it and reblued it, then he left it outside during the winter again, so my father repeated the process, then his grandfather left it out again and ultimately it was passed down to me (I'm 40 now, my father is 77), so I took care of the oxidation and refinished the stock. Funny stuff we'll do for a sentimental item, given that even today it is only worth perhaps $200. And, yes, as responsible and respectable Citizens, it is a burden we carry to keep the governing body in check; All laws must align within the constitutional framework within the context of the forefather's intent upon foundation, especially the Bill of Rights, as it cites inalienable rights that the government shall not infringe upon and instead has a responsibility to protect the observation of said rights. Thanks for keeping history alive, instead of burying it or revisioning it as we see all too often practiced in modern discourse.
Several European countries copied definitions from the US assault weapon ban, a bunch of that BS is still in effect here in Norway.
Kaboomf and as it did here it had no effect on crime. I mean the worst mass shooting in WORLD history happened in Norway back in 2011 by that neo Nazi lunatic as I’m sure you’re aware...but of course that was with a harmless mini 14 hunting rifle 🙄
That is unfortunate, especially since Norwegians have a proud history of firearms marksmanship. That douche in 2011 probably screwed your firearms legislation up for generations, because 'emotional' laws are often hastily researched with quick implementation or reinforcement, draconic in nature and cater not to the population the governments represent, but to the lowest common denominator to the detriment of proper law abiding citizens.
@@STM1066 ignoring the several school shootings that happened before then but ok
@Jakob Sødal don't they care that disarming there people dishonors their ancestors
The problem isn't what was, the problem is what was adopted in 2018.
Reminder fellas. Every gun law is unconstitutional.
As a Canadian, I find this video strangely relevant to our current situation. We recently experienced the worst mass shooting in Canadian history, and despite the fact that all of the shooter's guns were illegally obtained from the US (and one stolen from a police officer he murdered), our PM has used it as confirmation that we need a gun ban, and has promised to implement one. As a result, myself (and many other law-abiding Canadians) are buying guns that we otherwise likely wouldn't have purchased. Semi-auto 'black rifles' are selling out everywhere.
And I'm sitting here in NZ going "what semi-auto rifle?" :'-( ...
Like the one the idiot killed people with in Christchurch using illegal (in NZ) 30 round magazines
You can get full autos in NZ idiot
Im in Australia same here all our rights and freedoms were removed and we are turning into north Korea but people are still getting murdered.. isn't it amazing that people found more than 1 way to kill people but don't tell the government they will ban more things.. dang to late
dont act like you didnt see the christchurch videos
I’m sad for you bro 😢
I remember seeing Tremors as a kid and was already interested in firearms. When I saw the scene in Burt’s basement I knew right then that would be me one day.
Lol I'm in the same boat, but I'm up to 23 on the wall right now, my goal is to fill my gun room all the way
Same
I'm really, really glad I missed this. I was fourteen years old when the ban expired. What we have in the world of guns today is a freaking paradise by comparison.
I too was 14 years old But I remember it clearly My mom had to get a permit to buy a handgun had do the background check at the shop then go to the sheriff's department and get a permit approved before she could take it home then she could only have 10 round mags this in 2003 in winter.
its good and bad, yeah we have access to tons of semi auto rifles, but id prefer pre 86 laws so we could get a full auto AR15 by just paying the $200 tax. it will never happen though. no politician wants to be the guy that made full autos easy to get.
I too, grew up with a Bushmaster post ban, a xm-15. That was a good rifle and free of any bugs. Sold the upper as soon as the ban lifted. I miss the days of 100 dollar chinise SKS's and 300 dollar AK's...
I had the same Dissy set up with the ARMS gooseneck mount and a knockoff Aimpoint. Had a lot of the same issues as shown in the video, weak extraction, mine had an un staked Gas carrier key that came loose and tied up the rifle. Sill have the lower as part of an A4 rifle. Had almost no interest in AR’s before the ban due to my experience with Olympic Arms and never liking the A1 in service other than its weight. Now have built a couple myself that work way better than that original Bushy.
Sap sucker here, I've got both Russian and Chinese surplus (not commercial) sks's. The chinese ones aren't anything to loose sleep over.
Alas, the foreign-firearms ban of 1986, which hopefully will be recognized eventually as government overreach against consumer choice; One can hope, and ideally post '86 autos could be a thing under NFA if they revisited the matter. The unrelated Hearing Protection Act to exempt suppressors from the NFA was revived this past January, so I'll pretend that all the anti-gun chatter is still counter-balanced. Though the 'assault weapon' ban was the silliest anti-gun legislation, which research from the Left, Right and Center demonstrated had no noticeable effect on violent crimes involving firearms, so it would be demonstrably clueless for that ban to be reinstated.
I know the SKS's and AK surpluses weren't ban related per-se, but if I could go back, I'd be buying barrels of those $97 Mosin-Nagants that were everywhere when I was in my early 20's, though just to resell at today's premiums. My local C-A-L Ranch always 'literally' had barrels of those, always at $97, though they limited to 3 or 5 at point of sale - so, I guess it'd be multiple visits. ;)
$49 sks is what I miss, sold cases of them! For over a year.
I was in elementary school through most of the ban and in high school when it expired. I used to draw M16s and AKs on my composition books all the time since it was a time where kids could do such a thing without the threat of being suspended or arrested. I was interested in such weapons from watching many action movies and tv shows, but was still indoctrinated subtly by school and some family. It wasn't until I accidentally signed up for the ROTC in college that I got to play with real military hardware which broke the programming that "only military and police should have such weapons" and I really wanted to own them. Since school is ridiculously expensive, it took me a while before I had the budget to buy them. One of the mags for my Sig was made in 94 and is stamped "for military and law enforcement use only" on the front of it.
A fellow Stargate fan. Love the setup Sinistral.
As someone that was born in 1994 I was shocked when hearing it sunset just because as a kid I didn't think there were gun laws I just thoght if it was on TV we could own it. Now days I understand the history of gun control and oppose it and hope one day we can get back to the 2nd amendment being the only gun law.
It is rather sad that State governments are allowed to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment and the Bill of Rights in general. Furtherso, that we've had several federal laws enacted and in place that also violate the forefather's intent with the 2nd Amendment. With further research, the limited wording of the Bill of Rights is given proper context, that the people have inalienable rights that government shall not infringe upon, but rather be a safeguard against violation regarding these rights. That the original intent was for the people's right to bear arms sufficient to combat the threat of a tyrannical government, not to castrate the people's ability to act as a check against the hypothetical tyranny. Quite simply, the people were intended to have the inalienable right to bear arms _at least_ equal to the government that serves them, and we're not asking for 'outrageous' things like fully operational armed civilian aircraft, at this point they've got us quibbling for things like the Hearing Protection Act, foreign-made rifle importation for consumer choice and post '86 automatics [re-]added to the NFA. The people have conceded so much, yet there is a severe lacking of proper discussion in higher education regarding how we got from A to B, and that B is not where the people's responsibilities best balance the body of the government. I still freaking love this country though and am so grateful to live here and enjoy the freedoms, which while threatened, are still greater representations of freedom than any other country currently enjoys. Our laws just need to realign with the contextual intent of its constitutional framework.
@@Player_Review While I shouldn't comment as I am not American, I largely agree with what you say, certainly the ethos at the heart of it.
Although I would say the regualted part of the 2nd is also important, either by having enough training standards for licensing methods (for insurance coverage and proof of safe able usage & to be able to have certain types/classes of weapon etc) and some manner of providing education of usage, insights and the possible problems, accidents and at worst, the partial loss of some right(s), felonies and/or jail time & fines for breaking the due duty of citizineship in operating within the 2nd's bounds.
I feel the 2nd is a right, but also in that it is a right, that itself Must Bear Upon the Citizen Themself/Themselves Too, to have done due duty, dilligence and action by the/each citizen in conducting themself, specifically more so when using a weapon as a tool for target practice, fun, hunting and especially when teaching others etc. to break the right of other citizens, in the proper usage of the right, such as in a violent nefarious context, should break that right from those whom abuse that right.
I do understand most horrendoues acts are usually by those who haven't come to a higher level of attention to legal or federal persons, and that those criminals that do use weapons, usually don't follow laws they don't agree with or can get away from being scruitised about.
And as such it can feel that some parts of laws, bills and ammendments etc, can appear to infringe on the legally abbiding citizen; which then hides other facets of culture, upringing, family and educational problems, societial problems and a myriad of other things that can be the causes of persons acting irresponsibly or criminally with defensive tools getting used offencively. And if better communal, regional, state or federal care and services (mental health, local community events, anti-gang & afterhours educational services et al), aren't proscribed to try and mitigate, fix or ease those problems, then those who dislike weapons rather than the problems around them, will focus on the weapon as the root of the problem/evil IMHO to bury their own heads in the sands so to speak.
I hope I haven't offended you or others, and the reader can get the idea of what I hope to mean, even with my rambling on.
I grew up watching the 70s TV show S.W.A.T. and thought the rifles use were really cool and said that when I grow up I want one.. well I was a very young father though the 90s and could not afford one. I got a ar 15 around 12 years ago from a local dealer that was selling them for $700 and would let me make payments. Man!
what a love affair that started..
inthego watching swat now makes me realize what awful antigun propaganda that show was
I remember being absolutely livid when I woke up that morning and found out that that worthless piece of shit legislation had actually passed, which by the way a FBI initiated report showed that the 10 year ban had no measurable effect on crime. As a result it got me far more invested in firearms, the 2nd Amendment and all of our Constitutional rights in general. So thanks a lot Slick Willy. You opened my eyes.
How does anyone expect bans to reduce crime? Alcohol, drugs, guns etc. Same story every time. People want them and they will get them. Ban just makes black market more profitable and violent.
Only way to actually reduce violent crime is through education and addressing social issues which makes people choose violent crime life style. With education I mean actual education to allow a non-criminal profession and safe gun handling with respect for its power. But both methods are very hard to actually do in practice and effects only come after many years.
worldpopulationreview.com/countries/crime-rate-by-country/ shows a statistics for country by country crime rates. I would question some numbers if countries have heavily under reported numbers you can still see some European countries being very low which probably have quite trustworthy numbers. Those include countries like Switzerland, Finland and Iceland. Then if you check gun ownership rates at worldpopulationreview.com/countries/gun-ownership-by-country/ . You can find them also near top for ownership rates. There is clear indicator that civilian gun ownership has nothing to do with crime rate.
There could be some heavily controversial changes into gun and weapon handling laws which could reduce violent crime rate in long term. But I have a feeling they would be heavily unpopular here so no point raising them. They wouldn't also help anything for people who are likely visiting here as they are likely to already understand how to respect guns and handle them safely. It would be more making sure random Joe without proper interest to understand the weapon would be more likely to handle it safely.
In 2013, the California State Assembly passed a bill (SB374) that would have banned new semi-automatic rifles, straight up. It was vetoed by the governor, but it was a close one. I did a bit of panic buying and ended up with a SCAR 16, 17, and a Spike's AR. That was an expensive weekend. I worked at gun stores through Obama-mania 1 and 2 (2008 and 2012). It was nuts, the shooting range couldn't get ammo for rental guns and police officers couldn't get ammo to use for qualifications. And before you say "California is over-run and needs to sink into the ocean" or something to that effect, realize that CA is the battleground. Whatever happens in CA is coming for your state next.
The truth is people want guns. Whether they want guns for defense, hunting, competition, for their mechanical design, or just because they're cool, people want guns. The average gun owner proved it from 2008 to ~2014 by buying everything the industry could produce, just because of the threat of not being able to get it.
Nothing encourages gun sales more than Democratic talk of 'gun grabbing', which I'm not sure that most Dems are aware of. Recent example being the 'Trump Slump' of diminished gun sales when the Republican took office, but I imagine gun sales are strong again now with the Democratic debates where they all seem to be more anti-gun than I remember, with none of them supporting anything less than at least implementing UBC's. I wish California would stop speaking to the rest of America as though we were all Californians living in California's unique 'situations'. If it happens in CA, it goes after all of America, because LA (along with NYC) run the media bubble including Hollywood; They also happen to send forward half the presidential candidates this time around (okay, tbh, I didn't count), point is, what works or doesn't work for CA is likely not applicable to what works or doesn't work for middle America... I'd love it if they recognized 'average Americans' exist and started catering to them when they engage in the national arena (including national 'news', ideally).
Eh, if you look at how many people in the US as a percentage of the total population have guns, you will come to realize that "gun owners want guns", not everyone. The percentage of gun owners overall has decreased, while the number of guns per owner has increased. Meaning that those that own guns, own more than one or two. It's these people who end up with extensive personal armories (and thus present a larger danger of second-hand sales to criminals, or losing track of a weapon, or having them stolen), rather than "people" in general rushing to the stores to stock up.
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So yeah, not quite true what you're saying. I mean, you yourself are a textbook example. You bought 3 rifles in a weekend! That's enough to arm 3 households, but instead they just join your previous weapons.
@@whitescar2 It's both. Yes I bought more guns, but I was also working at gun stores at the time and after Sandy Hook we had customers literally wall-to-wall in the AR shop. I helped a lot of people who had a casual interest in firearms buy their first guns. I don't put much stock in survey results, especially ones like your second link, where they surveyed 0.0007% of the population and extrapolated that out to the entire country.
@@Player_Review CA policies don't work in CA either, but it's a model for everyone else. Also I haven't seen as many runs on ammo or guns since ~2014. I think the market finally saturated. (And everyone maxed out their credit cards.)
Didn’t the government order an insane amount of ammo and caused the shortage?
Very informative thanks for the video
Start of the video: Oh hey, it's InRangeHistory time with Karl.
1:32 A WILD RUSSEL APPEAR.
Unexpected surprise, but a welcomed one.
Bought my first Colt SP1 in 1978. Still have it today. Still one of my favorite rifles...ever! Great video.
As an international non firearm owner I respect the approach you took in making this video, the effects of law on culture are interesting either way.
Karl _almost_ always manages to avoid the political quagmire and I appreciate the direction his content takes as I feel it better educates global viewers on firearms and it generally does not come across as brazenly biased. Furthermore, while he's pro-2nd Amendment (constitutional right to bear arms), his perspectives on many matters deviate from any political party lines and contribute to his being an intriguing nuanced content creator. Either political party hardliner over here would disagree with some of his approaches to certain material, yet in doing so, we find a common ground and recognize he can engage the larger audience.
Definitely agree with you, that the cultural [attitudes and behaviors, perceivably] effected by law(s) can provide interesting [insights]. I reside in one of the lowest crime States in the USA and own several firearms, primarily as a sportsman/hobbyist, though my family came here from Denmark in the 1850's, so the other side of the coin is not an unthinkable one for me.
Thanks for posting your comment, I know I'm just a random, but I enjoy hearing international perspective insights on this type of content [delivery].
Funny enough my interest in firearms was sparked by somebody on a comics forum posting links to the Brady Campaign. This was around early 2004 when they were fighting to get the ban renewed, and the way they phrased it made it sound like machine guns were about to become legal (I was unaware of the pertinent laws at the time). I was on-board to help protect the status quo for all of... one day, I think, until I started doing research on what the ban specifically did and realized it was a farce that effectively served only to annoy law abiding people.
Learning about everything people did to circumvent the restrictions of the ban also appealed to my tinkering streak. Can't get a pre-ban magazine for your new HS2000/XD9 pistol? That's fine, a Beretta 92 mag will work if you just cut a new catch in it, or buy the .40S&W version and bend the feed lips in a little. I didn't have money to run out and buy a bunch of stuff at the time, so I just read about how everything worked as a hobby until I scraped together enough for a semi-auto .22, then a pistol, and since then a variety of other (mostly) practical firearms.
If my first exposure to anti-gun propaganda had been just a little more honest I might have stuck to video-games and air-soft instead...
Thanks to this law, I have boxes full of "high-capacity" magazines that are still in their wrappers and have been for years. I don't need that many but why not buy them now when they're cheap? I remember beat-to-crap M16 mags selling for $50 in the 90's!
This law also convinced me to buy as many guns as possible via private sale. Untraceable is good.
I think I was also interested in military-style guns thanks to movies and games. I always read a lot of books too, which probably contributed to my interests. I started out collecting WWI and WWII guns but now I focus on guns like ARs and AKs that are in greater danger of being prohibited.
I think that Russel hit on something where the movies portray guns as evening the odds or, at least, making evil's victory Pyrrhic and costly. That appealed to me a great deal too.
Now I can't imagine an AWB working in the USA (not that the last one really "worked" in any sense either). Between the great supply of naughty things that "they" would like to ban and ever-simplifying methods of manufacturing, I think that their golden opportunity to disarm us has passed.
I also fully agree that attitude/culture is more important than gear. I hope that we can continue to foster the belief that individuals have rights, not governments, and that, indeed, we have a duty to resist unjust laws. That culture will allow us to withstand whatever bad laws come our way, just like it did from 94-04.
The one thing that I think the Democrats will ultimately win on (someday) is the UBC, which won't affect me since I go through an FFL for my stuff, but it would price out many private sales with the increased cost. The rest of their anti-gun agenda just amounts to rhetoric they think their constituents want to hear, which isn't true outside of their coastal States. Both my parents were raised on farms and relied on hunting for a sizable part of their diets, so I was raised with that mindset, though also as a collector and general firearms enthusiasm. For whatever purpose, primarily the inalienable right to bear firearms, these rights should not be infringed upon and it is the US Government's responsibility to continue recognizing and fight for its citizen's protections as outlined in the Bill of Rights.
@@Player_Review Universal Background Checks (UBC) are unenforceable at least for guns sold before UBCs went into effect unless there was a nationwide gun registry too.
@@andnorr7738 The registry will come after the ubc law is passed.
@@billstevens5277 well I hope the fish that currently possess a sizable portion of us guns are able to make it down to the town hall and register, what with all the guns we clumsy 2A supporters have dropped into lakes over the years....
I remember the ban. One interesting thing that came out of it was the downsizing of handguns. If you were limited to only 10 round magazines, why have a gun big enough to take the normal 15 or so? Also, the 40 S&W grew in popularity at about this time. Again, it was a capacity thing.
In ‘92, I picked up a Colt model MT6700 (AR-15 heavy 20” match barrel) a real tack driver. My uncle worked on them in the USMC, so he helped me smooth the action and trigger creep. I paid $650 and he told me that I had been robbed blind. Fast fwd. to 1999 when I sold it to a collector for $2,000. I wish I had kept it, but I needed the money.
InRange TV continues to be the most engaging and superior firearms content on the web! Russell/Sinistral- this was perfect. I felt exactly like it was 2000 again. Your firearm choices, dress, the graphics, it just could not be more spot on.
Thanks!
I was a child during the bans. But even at that young age I knew if the government was telling me I can’t have, I was going to have it
I love the SG-1 reference.
Richard Noggin Indeed......
The most annoying thing about this is how little research it takes to realise how utterly stupid this ban was. As a non-American gun enthuisiast, growing up being a member of this community has really tought me one thing:
It is not always about "different opinions". Sometimes, people are just stupid and refuse to learn. And there is nothing I loathe more than when people feel very strongly about something they know nothing about.
I'm part of your European audience. Thanks for the history lesson. :)
Loved Russell's Stargate SG-1 reference. I also loved the doom box art reference at the end of the video.
I was able to get a pre ban A2 during the ban- it was a great score in the day. $750 , it looked like it had seen some hard use before I got it. But it was like treasure!
“Ban assault riffles and scary looking weaponry” the people who preach about bans truly don’t understand what they are saying. Personally I say we should ban all cars and vehicles build after the modal T. Why would anyone need a car that drives over 40 Mph, are you such a bad driver that you need surrounding air bags and a seat belt? You should be save enough with a horn clearly when someone hears “beep beep” they will surely move out of your way and let you pass. “ personally I don’t know why you need a car, counties around the world that use bicycles have a low car accident rate.” However motorized scooter accident have spiked.
Do you get the point?
I was 18 in 1994; an airgun shooter and centerfire pistol owner up until the '04 sunset. However being in California the sunset never came for us (LOL, except we got bayonet lugs back). The silver lining was around '05 - '06, the CA restrictions lead to the "off-list lower" and AK build party craze, innovations like "bullet buttons" and "featureless grips" simultaneously came with the movement and further facilitated it. I've been fanatically building and shooting CA legal ARs since '08. Just finished an upper yesterday 😉
I'm in Utah and was 15 in 1994, when I was given a hand-me-down Model 70 in .308 for hunting, got several firearms during the AWB and somehow went oblivious that a ban even existed. I didn't build my first AR until 2014, but I've owned and operated firearms since the early 90's (as a hunter/Boy Scout back then, primarily).
That is fantastic that you've continued engaging in firearms enthusiasm within California. I hear chatter about leaving to other 'Free States' to enjoy their lesser restrictions/regulations, though the need is greater in CA for a continued persistent educated pro-firearms population, if not to influence law, then at least to assist in educating others around them about the truths and myths and bringing new people into the sports/collector/hobbyist/educator/dealer/pro-gun/enthusiast world.
Keep up the good work!
I must say, it's refreshing to see someone share and embrace the mediums that got them into firearms in a tempered educational fashion. I didn't experience the AWB since I was busy being born and am not a US citizen, but as I grew older my interest in these topics expanded also so this sort of content and shared experience and opinion is highly appreciative!
Just gotta say, the framing, clarity, and color contrast at the beginning was beautiful.
I was never allowed to even touch a gun. My interest came from the mechanical function of guns, a system that generates force to push a projectile at amazing speeds that generally fits in your pocket? How does that work? Etc etc. I joined JROTC in high school in order to try for the rifle team. They removed the rifle team the moment I joined.
I got a license to own a gun in Illinois and once I moved out I bought a rock island 1911. The 1911 was the only gun I could from memory (without ever having hands on one) take apart to the smallest point and put together. I attempted to find a gunsmith apprenticeship but was usually met with ridicule or variants of "our gunsmith wouldn't want to train the person that would replace them"
I gave up on trying to be a gunsmith, it was hard enough to even get into guns in Illinois, I was tired already. I go to the range and often get praise for my aim, but I feel like there's so much I don't know being self taught.
My next targets are getting a rifle and maybe joining a competitive team. My daughters had a high lead scare recently and I've all but stopped my try at this. It's so pricey, it's so difficult and I feel worried about bringing home the lead. Not to mention covid and ammo shortages.
I still hope to achieve a few of these, but at 30 years of age I feel like I'm way out of the age range to be able to. So if I can go to the range every so often and shoot I'll be happy. Maybe I'll get my concealed carry license but every building around me says no guns inside so why bother?
I was 14 when it expired in '04.
It never affected me personally but I celebrated none the less when it sunseted because it meant that I could buy what I wanted when I turned 18.
Interesting effect caused by the ban. Similar thing happened to me. Got my carry permit and then found out that my state restricted magazine capacities and many other rifle features. I was outraged. This got me highly interested in obtaining defensive firearms which are the exact firearms targeted by the bans and restrictions.
Here in Germany, I experienced more or less the same. I only became interested in firearms during one of the occasional „ban-all“-discussions. And when I started shooting myself, I decided to buy an AR-15 - because this is what the anti-firearm-lobby (in Germany practically 90% of the media) demonizes most.
90% ? In my experience more in the region of 99%
Assault weapon must be the stupidest word ever invented. You can assault anyone with whatever kind of weapon you want. You can even assault somebody with your bare hands..let's ban bare hands, shall we? most killings and murders are committed by handguns btw. Not by an AR-15 style rifle or something.The fun part is this. you are more accurate firing in semi auto then in full auto. just think about that for an instance..
I didn't get into guns until about 2001 when I was 20 years old, but my ban memory is watching the AWB expiration countdown clock on the old Gunsnet site and then at the stroke of midnight when the ban expired, putting a Romanian folding stock on my Romanian SAR-1 AK. Then later I realized Romanian folding stocks suck and went back to the standard fixed wood style. I still have my three "Ban era" Romanian AKs. Although they've all had their muzzles threaded at this point.
Well done sir. I was 22 in 2001 and sadly ignored all the milsurp in favor of 'modern' firearms, so missed the boat on those great deals, when they were still there to be had.
"Back in the day" (70's and 80's) you could walk in a Gun Store and the racks were full of Shotguns, Hunting Rifles and Revolvers. Every now and then they would get a Colt SP1 AR-15 (in those years Colt was only making 10-14,000 SP1's). I bought my first AR-15 in 1981 while I was stationed at Dyess AFB, TX....I also bought a Colt 1911 Series 70 MK IV 45 (The SP1 was about $300.00, I don't remember what I paid for the 1911). I guess most people were not really interested in AR's..........That changed in 1994!!!!
Never knew too much about this. Thank you.
Another great video, I'm one of your international viewers like you mentioned and I still found this fascinating. Keep up the good work.
I don't remember much from the ban, I was still in school when the ban lifted, I do remember looking at my older cousin's "tacked out" mini 14 with an old Butler Creek folding wire stock and 30 round magazine and hearing it was "grandfathered" and how the adults standing around looking at it were sorry they didn't get one while they could.
>Rather shoot a Goa'uld with 5.56 than 5.7
Just roleplay as a member of SG-3. Duh.
I'm 35 but I wasn't into firearms until about 3 years ago. When I first started learning about them, had no idea ARs were ever banned. I thought they were just popular because it's a great design!
And we must never let them be banned again
At the time, I wasn't interested modern rifles, I was buying and shooting surplus rifles from WW2. But when I wanted a handgun for home defense I thought the tec9 looked cool. But then the "so called" assault weapons ban went into effect. So I purchased a Berreta instead. In retrospect I got a much better weapon, but all a I thought about at the time was that I had to pay $200 more for 5 less rounds of capacity. I voted for a third party candidate the next election. I think George Bush was a one term president because of the ban, but the "Read my lips, no new taxes!" speach definitely did not go over well with conservatives.
InRange hitting the real talking points yet again. Though I would have liked Karl to have outlined the points made in the video at the end or with pausing during the video. "InShort", the ban style rifle performed nearly as well as the non-ban style (excluding shooter errors) and the ban only served to increase gun ownership across the nation.
I do wish the video had highlighted that Obama's proposed new ban in 2012 caused extensive purchase of firearms as well.
You know it's funny, this video actually kind of makes me want to get a more old school, 80's or 90's looking rifle, despite some of the inconveniences that may come with such a prospect.
Sturmdude it’s nice to have a comparison, fun to use from time to time
I just stumbled across this video. I grew up in a family of gun nuts. When I was 6 (circa 1991) I was introduced to target shooting with a Marlin Model 60. I still have that rifle. The ban effected my family heavily. I remember my parents lamenting the loss of freedom. I remember their elation when the ban expired. Its odd that something which most people my age never think about was such a big deal in my family.
Very interesting to hear. You are talking about 1999... I'm from the other side of the atlantic: in 1999 at the age of 19 a guy with white hair, moustache and green clothing handed me a full auto AUG, a Glock field knife, a steel helmet, a foldable trench shovel... and a sheet of paper i had to sign, saying that those items were now in my "care"... A bit later one of the guys in green handed me an MG and a Glock for some time. My interest in firearms was sparked when the different working principles of the issued rifle and the MG and the Pistol were explained. (But i haven't even touched an AUG, MG or Glock since the year 2000)
I purchased my first A1 AR in 1985. I was living in Cleveland durning the assault ban. Cleveland adopted a stricter law of no assault rifles in the Cleveland area. I gave my rifle to a friend to hold for me. I moved out of Cleveland a year later.
I've owned all manner of handgun over last 30 years. Was never really interested in AR's. I bought two lowers at the end of August and I'm almost done building out one of them (just waiting on my single stage trigger). Nothing sells AR's like someone telling you you can't have one.
I had an Olympic Arms 20" A2 that had been factory "ported." I hunted, plinked, and even took some classes with it. I upgraded with a flat top upper and optic and finally sold it during the second AR crisis and made a nice profit. Sadly being in carbines for so long I am now in the market for a 20" barrel rifle.
Great video and very timely.
That is absolutely ridiculous. Oh, this weapon has a bayonet lug. BAN IT!
As somebody who is works as a pharmacist and a part time 07 FFL in the state of Massachusetts this speaks to me on many levels and still has relevance to the things people can do. Well that and getting it from both the DEA and the ATF. The attorney general of this kind state unilaterally banned feature compliant rifles while MA congress was on summer break. Just shows what we take for granted. That and that gooseneck aimpoint made me smile! Still have a goosenecked rifle that I recently swapped to a T-2.
I really enjoy these occasional longer form informative videos.
I’m from the UK but the son of a former soldier/medic and from a small farming/mining area so I am more familiar than some with firearms so I have held but never used one (others in my family have).
In honesty my interest stems more from the stories, history and engineering side than in ownership or use of firearms. Not to mention the cost of such hobbies.
its sad what was done to gun owners over there. i watched an old documentary about when the UK banned pistols and most semi auto rifles, and apparently there were massive protests, but of course the government didnt give a damn. tons of gun shops went out of business and the gun culture was basically ruined. that is the goal they are trying to achieve here. they want to make a licensing and training requirement and also require us to have expensive gun insurance. the process will require approval from local police and the AG, it will cost a ton of money and be a huge hassle. that will be the death of the 2A. it will make it so hard to become a gun owner that the younger generations wont want to deal with the expense and hassle. if you're interested here is a video explaining the new gun license bill that has been proposed. ruclips.net/video/lzeSWnbPOCQ/видео.html
its terrible...
I was a kid during this time period, and I remember my dad "rationing" all of his pre-ban magazines. He had boxes full of 20 round AR mags, but would only keep three of them loaded for use so he wouldn't damage the other ones. Same with his S&W 5906 and Berretta 92 mags.
I also remember folks trying to buy one of his two G3's and one of his six AR's whenever they found out he had multiple pre-rifles.
Leaving mags loaded doesn't damage them. Load them all ;)
I was a month shy of 6 when the '94 AWB expired. I now own 2 AR's (a Bushmaster, and a franken-M4gery) and am working on the upper for a third. Playing around with the furniture and looking at all of the various components, configurations, accessories, etc. for sale today makes me realize exactly why people have 20 AR's.
Only 20? Those are rookie numbers.
Wow... What are those red light up systems attached to the steel downrange?
DeviantOllam I believe they are by Magneto Speed. They make long range stages a lot easier to score
I'm older than him, but I wasn't even aware of this stuff at the time. I didn't get into guns until about 10 years ago.
This ban was going on for the better part of my younger life and i remember wanting a rifle like the one i shot on a boy scout trip which was a "CAR". To grow up and to build a rifle similar if not with better features is awesome, and i get to say i built the first, and probably only AR ill ever own.
Love to see the stages of your competition shooting. And would love to see more of it!
And a spin-off of the AR's popularity is it's now becoming THE deer rifle in a lot of places (mine is a 450 bushmaster). Making them more difficult to ban in the future.
I'd be intrested in hearing Carl's gun configuration during the ban.
That's a good point that it's important to not be too self critical. If you're so self critical that you can't function after messing up because you're so nervous or feel bad, it's not good because hey you still might be in the middle of doing something. You might be in the middle of a match or a fight, flying a plane and still need to get back safe, hell someone might have just died from a mistake you made but you can't just stop and breakdown.
love your content Karl, thanks for everything you do
I wasn't even born when you got your first AR, Sinistral. My interest in firearms started with Call of Duty and a family trip to Pearl Harbor. I'm 19 now and have already built a small collection of firearms. I'm building my first AR at the moment, an a1/a2 transitional-inspired rifle build. I'm very glad I haven't had to enter my gun-buying years under the AWB.
The rifles were so expensive at the time, even after the ban rifle prices were high. It took a couple years for prices to settle down. I remember picking up a Bushmaster in about 2005, the dang thing was $1200, and it was a basic AR. Last year I built an AR for half the price, and it has a bunch of enhanced parts and components, we really have come a long way.
Thank god I was too young for the AWB to effect me. Hopefully another one never passes.
Bans don't work.
Too young for the federal ban but living in California gave me a desire to get guns that just skirt the law
Funnily enough I have a relative with an original ban era colt ar15-a4 never shot it once (he does pistol and shotgun shooting mostly) and has the original 10 round mag it came with, but he actually took it to the local gunsmith and had the barrel threaded, and put an a2 style birdcage on. Thats pretty epic.
I was a sophomore in HS when the ban expired. I remember it, at that point I only owned a Mosin, a Winchester 94 and a Mossberg. When I was finally old enough to buy rifles myself, the very first thing I bought was an Overpriced WASR 10/63 UF. And about a year after that I bought a Rock River AR15 Carbine. I still have both of those same rifles and have since added many more to my own collection. I was always fascinated by History, Military history and arms development. All which go hand in hand. It is odd that I got into firearms at all considering no one in my immediate family had any interest in firearms, not even hunting. But I was always fascinated and wanted to learn more.
I can remember scrambling to buy pre-ban magazines at outrageously inflated prices. The definition of "assault weapon" was like the definition of pornography, "I know it when I see it." Banning by name was about as underhanded persecution as you can get. They should have just called it the "scary black rifle" ban.
Side note in MD now you can buy and leave w/AR 10, but M1A is banned. No BS. Glad to leave state next week for good moving PA.
That retro doom style poster at the end is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
Even as a child and young man I realized that there was a reason they didn't want us to have them and that was a really good reason to have them. Remember, when the government tells you that it's for your own good and they know what's best for you, do the exact opposite.
I still have copies of Gun Digest from '83, '84 thru till '91, the difference is still stark.
The AWB '86 really was the best gun salesman of the time & post '04.
Love that armored trooper art!
DOOOOOOM!!!
I have the exact pre-ban pattern AR shown in your thumbnail. Got it just before the ban went into effect.
Built a USGI parts kit AR right before the ban for the very reasons you cited. It is also the reason for my M1 carbine and Russian SKS. Not that they were subject to the ban but now I wanted military stuff. BTW...spent WAY more than I should have for the AR, but I had one. Still shoots pretty good.
GREAT REVIEW MAN.. Remember the Movie " PLATOON" I was 10 Years Old and We Snuck in the Movie theater -that was the First Movie I Saw on the Big Screen.
Lots od M16 & AK. It Chnged my LIFE for EVER.
I’ve re-watched this video about 5 times already since it dropped. Great stuff.
I remeber the ban ended the day I returned from my first tour in iraq, a few months later I owned an AR styled like the M4 I carried, I remember shooting IPSC uspsa and wanting a para P14.45 because they came with 2 14 round pre ban mags, bo other pistol offered that back then